tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post568743834657019148..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Det. Steve Thomas and The Ramseys Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-76742396774001012072014-06-06T21:39:11.885-04:002014-06-06T21:39:11.885-04:00Peter:
Wanted you to see this, hadn't seen i...Peter: <br /><br />Wanted you to see this, hadn't seen it anywhere else:<br />http://solvingjonbenet.blogspot.com/2013/11/three-little-words.html<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Love your blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22127557433043328052014-04-20T23:05:24.054-04:002014-04-20T23:05:24.054-04:00@Peter's original post: Casey Anthony was acqu...@Peter's original post: Casey Anthony was acquitted.<br /><br />Sorry, this sort of thing drives me crazy.<br /><br />Carry on.<br />Picking at nitsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-10545117962267068712014-04-19T01:44:27.138-04:002014-04-19T01:44:27.138-04:00thanks 10:33. i looked at garrets fb page and hes...thanks 10:33. i looked at garrets fb page and hes interesting. he sounds like a reasonable minded guy telling people to stop the online petetions etcand just focus on heather. he also said he doesnt know how two poeople could allegidly fool so many people. i took that to mean hes not convinced moorers did it but that may not be what he meant. anyway i agree sealcoating crime scene is awful idea!! anytime theres feesh cement after girl goes missing i feel like im watching awful lifetime movie about man killing girl and getting whole community to believe hes innocent while they stand over her dead body unknowingly. ya sealent bad ideaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18542738335108184452014-04-18T22:16:57.089-04:002014-04-18T22:16:57.089-04:00Anon, There was obviously something wrong and ther...Anon, There was obviously something wrong and there is a need for much suspicion as JonBenet had 40 UTIs, a doctor who wasn't addressing the problem and who was also showing up at the house to sedate the mother after JonBenet was found murdered most likely by the mother. This is not your average doctor or your average doctor's behavior. My guess is that there was more than one person abusing JonBenet (whether sexual, physical and/or emotional abuse).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18363631308938843482014-04-18T22:01:02.681-04:002014-04-18T22:01:02.681-04:00If one of them are the murderer, and she was abuse...If one of them are the murderer, and she was abused at the time of her death...<br /><br />With that being said, I've never followed her case closely, so I don't really have a firm opinion. I'm pretty much just going on snippets that I read here.<br /><br />I do think it's odd if she had that many UTI's, no further diagnostic testing was done (maybe it was?). I do think it's odd that her doctor gave medication to Patsy, unless that was Patsy's doctor also, or unless there was a person relationship between them and the doctor. I don't necessarily think the doctor was abusing JonBenet, but I do think it was strange for him to not look further into her UTI's, and I think he knows that and was covering himself for not doing so. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45541957552552901872014-04-18T10:38:42.360-04:002014-04-18T10:38:42.360-04:00It is amazing to me that this is still "unsol...It is amazing to me that this is still "unsolved" after all these years. Unprosecuted is my opinion, not unsolved.<br />One question I have though is about the chronic UTI's. Physiologically, why would sexual abuse Cause a UTI? Because consenual sex doesn't cause chronic UTI's,<br />The worst thing a person can do is murder someone. I have no problem calling the ramseys murderers. But, I don't think there is evidence to say sexual abuse either. The autopsey denied evidence of chronic sexual abuse. She was abused at the time of her death, but it there was no evidence of that occurring prior to her demise.<br />Isn't is enough to call them murderers, why the need to say pedophiles too?<br />I also think its wrong to beat up and the doctor and wonder if he's a molestor too. That strains credibility amongst otherwise intelligent and thought provoking commentary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36412143689057633012014-04-18T10:33:23.694-04:002014-04-18T10:33:23.694-04:00Anon it's the "SM and TM Are Innocent&quo...Anon it's the "SM and TM Are Innocent" FB page. I checked it out just out of curiosity. Mostly it is opposition not supporters of the page on there, but sometimes good factual info is posted bc of arguments.<br />I am not sure exactly what sealcoating is but it was the fake texter Garret who announced it and then he was also commenting on the page itself about the sealcoating. I think it is a BAD idea. If that is where LE believes she was killed, it is a crime scene, and should remain as is! Especially there is irony in someone who was charged with interfering with the investigation (those charges were dosmissed for him, not yet for the other guy) announcing the news about PTL being sealcoated. I just do not believe PTL should be touched in any way until Heather is found.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-5332324228007069062014-04-18T00:56:09.042-04:002014-04-18T00:56:09.042-04:00I didn't know that doctor came to the home and...I didn't know that doctor came to the home and sedated Patsy. Was he a family of child doctor. That is so not normal. I've never heard of the doctor coming to help the family.<br /><br />Also not the first time I heard the theory that these parents were involved in really sick stuff. <br /><br />It's frightening to imagine what JonBenet went through. No child should ever know that fear or pain, <br /><br />trustmeigetithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05707304982363758140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-5316694928676329172014-04-17T23:49:24.323-04:002014-04-17T23:49:24.323-04:00wow that IS weird. shes still not found ya they sh...wow that IS weird. shes still not found ya they should preserve any chsnce if finding clues. ...... what exactly is sealcoating for? and what is the other site full name?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-75092655935716441122014-04-17T22:16:11.104-04:002014-04-17T22:16:11.104-04:00A little off topic, but over on the SATMAI page wh...A little off topic, but over on the SATMAI page which I go to occassionally because sometimes useful info is discussed there is a screen shot of one of the I believe fake texters Garret announcing that tomorrow a paving company is coming to sealcoat an area around Peachtree Landing on both sides of ramp and up to the road. Should they be doing this kind of thing at a crime scene? Perhaps it is harmless, but it does not seem like a very good idea. I don't understand also since that is the place she vanished, the crime scene, I would think the place itself would bring up upsetting thoughts. Why are they fixing it up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38260136447693938772014-04-17T18:46:42.476-04:002014-04-17T18:46:42.476-04:00Has anyone read A.J. Kolar's book "Foreig...Has anyone read A.J. Kolar's book "Foreign Faction: Who really kidnapped JonBenet?"?<br /><br />I found it really interesting and as good as Steven Thomas' one. Kolar was in charge of the investigation after Steve Thomas and he seems to believe that Burke had a lot to do with his sister's death. He claims that the marks on JonBenet's body (who some thought that were stun gun marks) are a 100% match to a toy-train that Burke owned.Elizanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-12148355604224428282014-04-17T18:43:25.354-04:002014-04-17T18:43:25.354-04:00ah well - different experience.
one thing i'...ah well - different experience. <br /><br />one thing i'll agree, UTI's are the devil. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78397900868741918112014-04-17T18:13:31.634-04:002014-04-17T18:13:31.634-04:00Anon, With my limited knowledge, I must say that I...Anon, With my limited knowledge, I must say that I know firsthand from my own experience when I was pregnant, there are ways to address UTIs that only a specialist would be able to help with. There are procedures that can be done by a specialist as well as obviously the specialist would be the one who could determine what was causing them, for example some kind of underlying physical problem as well as a specialist would need to determine which medications, followups etc would be best suited. Because if the risk to the kidneys and the incredibly large number of UTIs either a cause would need to be found or she should have bern given daily antibiotics. The doctor was absolutely jeopardizing her health by not providing a specialist recommendation. It would not be implying guilt on the Ramseys to refer her to a specialist. One important thing to consider is that Patsy was bringing her in for medical treatment. She was not hiding the fact of the recurrent UTIs, but rather readily bringing them to the attention of physician. For her to persistently seek medical attention 40 times means that she is not hiding the UTIs. So, it's worth asking, why was the doctor seemingly keeping the fact of JonBenet's very large number of UTIs confined to only his own office and therefore his own knowledge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-29048360008678542962014-04-17T17:52:24.713-04:002014-04-17T17:52:24.713-04:00http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_0c1e...http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_0c1e322e-c656-11e3-b27f-0017a43b2370.html<br /><br />charges dropped against one of fake postersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-62056913605714370642014-04-17T17:30:10.198-04:002014-04-17T17:30:10.198-04:00In my humble medical knowedge - based on some real...In my humble medical knowedge - based on some real info i'd rather not list out , recurrent UTI's are very tough to treat if they do not initially respond to antibiotics. western med really has no "fix" for recurrent UTi's. specialist or not. if a doctor were to take further action he'd likely have to acknowledge that there may be a deeper problem causing the infections -- meaning abuse. I think for that doc to have taken further action would mean in essense accusing the ramseys of abuse. clearly he should have done just that -- but for whatever reason being neglect of participitation he didn't. but thinking that a specialist could "fix" it with some medecine, that only specialist have access too - I have doubts of that, I think the only way you fix it is stop the abuse. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-90733122080530228352014-04-17T16:49:44.091-04:002014-04-17T16:49:44.091-04:00Anon, Sorry I didn't mean to misinterpret what...Anon, Sorry I didn't mean to misinterpret what you meant. It's a little different with college health services and also if it is a grown woman with several UTIs as opposed to a kid with 40 UTIs returning to her primary care doctor who does not refer her to a specialist. <br />I am not sure what I am arguing for. I believe Patsy had a relationship with her and JonBenet's doctor which seems to contain elements of Munchausen's by proxy. Does this mean Patsy fabricated the UTIs. No. But the way in which the problem of the UTIs was allowed to persist without any adequate attempts at treatment (involving a specialist) indicates the doctor and Patsy were allowing JonBenet to continue being sick over and over again without ever seeking to address the problem effectively. For Patsy this would mean more attention from a doctor. For the doctor, it suggests he may have been harming JonBenet.<br />The fact that this doctor made a house call to sedate Patsy raises further suspicions imo of what his involvement may have been. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6333941041155023852014-04-17T16:32:29.267-04:002014-04-17T16:32:29.267-04:00- 4:04 , I'm not sure what you are arguing for...- 4:04 , I'm not sure what you are arguing for or against - or think I am arguing for or against. <br /><br /> in my experience docs have neglected to do much about recurring uti's - i remember in college having a number of female friends who always got them and health services was pretty useless. so my "reference" is just knowing friends to whom docs said this to. that said -- I'm in totaly agreement that the doc should have done much more. And it could indeed mean he was literally a participant in her abuse,. or it could mean he was paid off in some way to look the other way. or simple a bad doctor who realixed he could get in trouble after the fact. it would be interesting to figure out which it was -- if there are indeed indications of direct participation I wouldn't be surprised. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-57522259713009906342014-04-17T16:13:22.731-04:002014-04-17T16:13:22.731-04:00Jen Ow, Interesting.
The doctor's behavior is ...Jen Ow, Interesting.<br />The doctor's behavior is profoundly disturbing on many levels. Using SA on the doctor's statements that I read a while ago I saw deception. <br />The "covering his butt' theory makes sense only if one can explain why he neglected a referral in the 1st place. Referring them to a specialist would not have meant he was accusing the Ramsey's of sexual abuse. It simply would have meant he felt tge frequency required expertise from an expert. His neglect to refer her out of his office points a finger AT HIMSELF. It presents the possibility he was involved in molesting JonBenet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46267892499153892272014-04-17T16:04:47.957-04:002014-04-17T16:04:47.957-04:00Anon said "chronic ailments can be considered...Anon said "chronic ailments can be considered a phase--esp in kids". Really?! Where did you get this information?<br />Could you give an example? <br />The doctor neglecting to refer JonBenet to a specialist showed profound neglect. UTIs are painful, excessive (40 in 2 yrs?) and recurrent UTIs in a kid is NOT normal. The doctor obviously was not able to handle the situation on his own, and there is way he could have thought he was able to. Do you think by number 30 he was thinking hmmm maybe this kid should see a specialist or do you think he thought wow, these UTIs are under control. No problem with this kid experiencing a very abnormal number of UTIs along with suffering chronic pain, fevers, etc besides the fact the UTI can spread to the kidneys! His not referring JonBenet to a specialist is very suspicious imo. The Ramseys wealth or social influence would not have been challenged by saying I am referring JonBenet to a specialist. This doctor couls have been disciplined or even sued for his neglecting to follow through in any kind of responsible way with addressing JonBenet's ongoing health problems.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9619140526740075832014-04-17T15:30:30.536-04:002014-04-17T15:30:30.536-04:00I always had this casual theory that Jonbenet was ...I always had this casual theory that Jonbenet was victim of a group of adults. That Ramseys had little horrid sex parties where a number of adults would watch/participate in abuse of Jonbenet. and this explains why somebody elses dna was found on her but both parents speak and act like they are guilty. doctor could have been a regular "guest". It's out there but also maybe no more out there than what might have happened/been going on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-14678234791514788892014-04-17T15:06:16.232-04:002014-04-17T15:06:16.232-04:00HI Red Ryder, (and others interested in the Ramsey...HI Red Ryder, (and others interested in the Ramsey case)...<br /><br />You guys should check out Steve Thomas' book Jonbenet. I have read several books on the case, (Perfect murder, Perfect town, JohnBenet, and the Death of Innocence) and his is the best. He actually investigated the case, and questioned Patsy when she finally showed up for her interview months later. He details information not widely known, about the INTENSE steps taken by the Ramsey's to derail and hinder the investigation. It is available as an e-book.<br /><br />He also details how Dr Buef played a significant role in helping the Ramsey's circumvent justice. Buef arrived on the scene almost immediately, and provided medication to sedate Patsy. He later intervened when investigators tried to question her, saying that she was too emotionally fragile and medicated to be interviewed. This resulted in months going by before the Ramsey's were interviewed by LE. I find it curious that Buef showed up on the scene, and interfered with the investigation, especially considering the high number of visits, and his insistence that the Ramsey's were 'wonderful parents'. His actions seem to indicate that he felt the need to cover his butt, anf theirs.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680510856590830567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-52867178503568319662014-04-17T14:49:09.682-04:002014-04-17T14:49:09.682-04:00cronic ailments can be considered a phase -- eps i...cronic ailments can be considered a phase -- eps in kids. the doc could easily have considered himself equipped to handle situation. docs are not selfless saints, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-84476043514217403872014-04-17T14:47:30.820-04:002014-04-17T14:47:30.820-04:00I have no doubt it indicated JOnBenet was being se...I have no doubt it indicated JOnBenet was being sexually abused by her Father, and no doubt her parents killed her, at least one of them and the other closely involved. <br /><br />but I also think it's not shocking that a doc did not send jonbenet to a specialist, for one -- I've never been sent to a specialist with a cronic med issue -- I always have to push for more solutions than doc is offering to get a refferal. I don't think docs are quick to reffer to specialists if patient/parent is discouraging of the idea., who's gonna get paid if the doc reffers the patient away? not the doc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-51559784782441159632014-04-17T14:45:14.731-04:002014-04-17T14:45:14.731-04:00Sorry I tried to delete part of what I wrote. It ...Sorry I tried to delete part of what I wrote. It should say the frequency of UTIs would indicate that something was going on which requires a specialist's expertise and input.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2941375068842652892014-04-17T14:42:52.792-04:002014-04-17T14:42:52.792-04:00Anon, the frequency of the UTIs would indicate som...Anon, the frequency of the UTIs would indicate something was going on, whether some which required a specialist's input. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com