tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post6781653016398908372..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Jules Woodson Sexual Assault AnalyzedStatement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger161125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47873758276840213492018-04-13T19:02:48.596-04:002018-04-13T19:02:48.596-04:00Jules' statement, "Do you remember how yo... Jules' statement, "Do you remember how you acted like you loved me and cared about me in order for me to cooperate in such acts...." is most telling.<br />1. She asks if he remembers telling her he loved her, not if he remembers "assaulting" her and ruining her life for the past 7300 days. This shows, to me at least, that she is still resentful that he did not love her, that he lied to her so she would "cooperate in such acts". <br />2. The fact that she used the word "cooperate" proves she was not assaulted. Did she scream, try to scratch him, hit him, run off into the woods? NO!<br />3. The video of her watching Andy speaking to the church where she cringes and sobs..........A PATHETIC, STAGED CIRCUS orchestrated to obtain sympathy and outrage for her. <br />4. Why doesn't she ask God for forgiveness for her stupidity in believing he loved her?<br />5. She should be mad at herself for believing his lie about loving her; yet to say you've suffered for 20 years with these feelings? I don't believe it. One article said she was "using her maiden name". Maybe she went through a divorce, just like her parents, and she views herself as a failure. Just my humble two cents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-70183257372086477202018-03-23T11:25:36.778-04:002018-03-23T11:25:36.778-04:00This incident really sounds like it was consensual...This incident really sounds like it was consensual...inasmuch as a youth pastor / youth group participant can be considered consensual. He was 22 she was 17. Andy S. has stated in other interviews that there was kissing and heavy petting involved leading up to the oral sex, which he asked Jules to perform. Jules leaves this out of her narrative and actually makes the event sound like more of an assault. Sad story. Hopefully, both will find forgiveness and the Peace of God. It sounds like Jules is being coached and groomed for a coming financial lawsuit against both churches where Andy S. has served. Will be interesting to see how both participants represent themselves under oath in a court of law...if this story progresses to that point. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-41538370687466756422018-02-19T18:23:10.435-05:002018-02-19T18:23:10.435-05:00The emotional rollercoaster is key here. Within a ...The emotional rollercoaster is key here. Within a few minutes she went from feeling special and excited to being completely rejected. He begged for forgiveness but what exactly was her state of emotions at the time he went out of the truck and right before?<br />As for "take it to your grave as someone here interpreted as a potential threat... In other circumstances I would agree. But not in a begging situation. And she didn't indicate feeling threatened.<br /><br />As for her being under 18... From above comments I take it there was no law against it in that state?<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong.Mike Dammannhttp://www.twitter.com/firetownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-40885863262822384542018-02-03T12:45:30.673-05:002018-02-03T12:45:30.673-05:00Also Anon
Jules referred to a previous sexual ass...Also Anon<br /><br />Jules referred to a previous sexual assault(?) <br />[I’m unclear about what happened in that incident.]<br /><br />I’m wondering to what extent the long-term effects of abuse influence<br />the feelings Jules’ expresses in her statement.<br /><br />Did she ever talk about or get help for the previous encounter?<br />Has she experienced abuse as a child?<br /><br />I’m no expert on dissociation.<br /><br />My understanding is:<br /><br />deep, real feelings/reactions from past abuse can surface during (or be triggered by) <br />non-abusive situations.<br /><br />Iow, the feelings/reactions are very real, but are not really about the non-abusive situation or person<br /><br />Dissociation is an essential consideration in abuse cases.<br /><br />Without improved, solid, grounded understanding of the complexities of abuse, survivors will suffer from ensuing emotional “witch hunts” based on false allegations.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-66435889419925192632018-01-23T03:47:27.514-05:002018-01-23T03:47:27.514-05:00I agree. I have witnessed the antics of so called ...I agree. I have witnessed the antics of so called female 'children' from the online activity of my child's peers. These aren't (for the most part), innocent young girls, I think they could teach boys a thing or two.<br />As here I think they have a problem when they perceive they've been scorned. That's what happened here. <br />It didn't go from 0-60 in 10 seconds. <br />I always wanted a son. Now I'm kinda glad I haven't got one. I'd be terrified every time he went out. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-15784618194320118082018-01-16T15:02:44.036-05:002018-01-16T15:02:44.036-05:00There isnt anything mentioned about the conversati...There isnt anything mentioned about the conversation during the ride from church to the moment they arrived at the woods. Except for the question to where they were going. habundianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38056271314680615932018-01-16T12:18:48.698-05:002018-01-16T12:18:48.698-05:00Savage is an outgoing corporate climber whose enth...Savage is an outgoing corporate climber whose enthusiasm and ease in front of everyone from small groups to large crowds, as well as his ability to sway them to his point of view, has brought a lot of money for him and his churches.<br /><br />Look at the number of ums, uhs, self-edits, stutters and rambling in just the few paragraphs <b>ima.grandma</b> kindly posted -- I stopped counting around 20. <br /><br />Expected vs unexpected.<br /><br />Good point, <b>John</b>. It's sort of another version of tacking on an "As I told..." to bury a lie in technical truth.But I am a robot!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53145249650318219772018-01-16T05:49:06.760-05:002018-01-16T05:49:06.760-05:00It's interesting that she said she assumed and...It's interesting that she said she assumed and not that they agreed to go for "ice cream" or if it was even mentioned.<br /><br />By saying this, it can not be refuted because it's what she assumed and not what was discussed.John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20726332169444884342018-01-16T05:44:26.812-05:002018-01-16T05:44:26.812-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-23664656401049412982018-01-15T22:39:17.437-05:002018-01-15T22:39:17.437-05:00My understanding was that the book wouldn't be...My understanding was that the book wouldn't be available for sale until July 3, 2018.<br /><br />Are you certain that the ice cream cover was original or did someone hack the site and place it there?<br /><br />It is odd coloring for ice cream. Especially the grey one. What's up with that?<br /><br />I could see vanilla, chocolate, strawberry or pistachio on a different background; that cover is gross!<br /><br />And the analogy to "Ridiculously Good Marriage" isn't conveyed. Ridiculous, on the other hand, is.<br /><br />Something like that may be better on a dating manual as they feel the need to publish or perish.<br /><br />Hafta wonder if they still regard the Bible as any source of information inside the church nowadays or not. Plain cover. Odd words. You get my drift.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-54844107566629631522018-01-15T22:32:19.607-05:002018-01-15T22:32:19.607-05:00John McGowan, I also wondered about her saying she...John McGowan, I also wondered about her saying she assumed they were going for ice cream. On my very first reading, I was like, why would you assume that? Driving down a dirt road, must be ice cream time! <br /><br />~scoutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-83892544317337819392018-01-15T18:34:22.587-05:002018-01-15T18:34:22.587-05:00Ok, I see your point.
But wouldn't she have s...Ok, I see your point.<br /><br />But wouldn't she have said:<br /><br />And suddenly....<br /> instead of<br />Suddenly....<br /><br />to indicate an omission in her story?<br /><br />I guess I'm new at SA and I'm trying to figure out clue words to detect omission. Lilstrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07041344805066949576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-88477889658860514462018-01-15T15:51:01.556-05:002018-01-15T15:51:01.556-05:00John: Had she seen the cover before reporting the ...John: Had she seen the cover before reporting the alledged assault.? I believe she did. I also believe one of her supporting cast showed it to her.<br /><br />Another point:<br /><br />Andy Savage interview: the following shows the edited portions removed from the released transcript: <br /><br />BF: “All right, welcome back, it is the Ben Ferguson Show, um, Andy Savage, Highpoint Church, who is on with me today, um, and we are talking about, um, this issue, where a young girl in Texas, 17 at the time, um, has come out and said that 1) the church didn’t handle this correctly... ”<br />...<br /><br />AS: “Um, uh, Ben, I did resign, um, when this happened. Twenty years ago, I resigned my position, I stepped away from ministry completely, for a season, um, and I engaged a redemptive process in my life. Uh, I maintained relationships, uh, with key pastors and counselors in my life, I maintained relationships with, uh, transparency, and uh, openness with people, uh, that uh, were trustworthy leaders in my life, uh, and I have rebuilt a life where I have changed, um, to the degree that the lessons I learned through this experience, um, allow me to help people in a way, um, that I-I never would have any other-other way.”<br /><br />BF: “A lot of people are saying the only reason why you’ve been able to help people, and again, I say this bluntly, because I think it’s important, because you didn’t fully disclose this to the membership at Germantown [Baptist Church] when you were there, the membership at Highpoint [Church] when you were there. That this has been somewhat omitted from your ministry. Is that, is that a fair, way to put it, because a lot of people found out about this, that there was even an incident in Texas, because of a newspaper article, or they came to church on Sunday morning.”<br /><br />AS: “I have, uh, over the years, been very willing to share, um ...”<br />...<br /><br />AS: “As opportunity would, uh, would deem helpful. Um, uh, but, but no, I did not, uh, broadcast this information to the entire congregation.”<br /><br />BF: “Are you sorry for that, to, to the, to – and I say this, forget everybody else, I’m talking about the people at the church, are you sorry that you didn’t be more transparent? Do you feel like you misled them by, by not broadcasting this, as part of your story?”<br /><br />AS: “No, I believe I was honest and transparent with the leadership at Highpoint, um, and I think that was, uh, the right place for that information to exist.”<br /><br />BF: “Let’s talk about the-the real issue, and that is, there are um, people that have started petitions to get you to force you out, to resign. Um, there are people that think that honestly you should be dead, uh, milder than that, there are people think you should be in jail. Um, if I was sitting in, y’know, in the chair you’re in right now, I think there’s a large part of me that would think, ‘Why don’t I just resign, and just go away?’ Um have you thought about resigning in the last week since all this became so public, where it’s on the front pages of literally every newspaper in the country?”<br /><br />AS: “Yes. On several occasions in the last few days, I have wanted to quit.”<br /><br />BF: ‘Have you offered your resignation?”<br /><br />AS: “I did.”<br /><br />BF: “When?”<br /><br />AS: “On, uh, Sunday [January 7, 2018], I offered to Chris [Conlee] that I would resign, if that was in the best interest of our church”<br /><br />BF: “What did he say to you then? I mean, because most people would think that it was a ‘no brainer’ um, you have all this turmoil, and you’re resigning. Yes, I’ll take that resignation and run with it.”<br /><br />AS: “That would certainly be the easy thing to do. I cannot speak for him. I can speak about him. Uh, Chris [Conlee] and the leadership at our church, uh, believe, uh, what we have said, since we started the church, we believe in a perfect place for imperfect people. Um, we believe, that, um...”<br /><br />Read more at: http://watchkeep.blogspot.com/2018/01/andy-savage-on-ben-ferguson-show.html<br />FYI: there's been a twitter war going on between Ben Ferguson and Amy Smith. My money's on Amy.ima.grandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319771909287767461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47108898122106442072018-01-15T13:55:11.791-05:002018-01-15T13:55:11.791-05:00But I am a robot!January 15, 2018 at 1:36 PM
Oh, t...But I am a robot!January 15, 2018 at 1:36 PM<br />Oh, the irony! His now-cancelled book has an image of an ice cream cone on the cover, incl a disturbingly Caucasian-flesh colored scoop lower front.<br /><br />......<br /><br /><b>I assumed we were going to get ice cream.</b><br /> <br />Words don't come from a vacuum.<br /><br />Had she read his book.<br />Was she aware of it?<br />Had she seen the cover<br />before reporting the alledged assault.?<br />John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20911186533958708572018-01-15T13:45:03.457-05:002018-01-15T13:45:03.457-05:00With a cherry on top?With a cherry on top?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-52810370991815379592018-01-15T13:38:37.945-05:002018-01-15T13:38:37.945-05:00Forgot link:
https://www.amazon.com/Ridiculously-...Forgot link:<br /><br />https://www.amazon.com/Ridiculously-Good-Marriage-Essentials-Strong/dp/0764230980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1514993886&sr=8-1&keywords=ridiculously+good+marriageBut I am a robot!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48420372899198076052018-01-15T13:36:38.799-05:002018-01-15T13:36:38.799-05:00Oh, the irony! His now-cancelled book has an image...Oh, the irony! His now-cancelled book has an image of an ice cream cone on the cover, incl a disturbingly Caucasian-flesh colored scoop lower front.But I am a robot!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2401739907460563682018-01-15T12:01:59.470-05:002018-01-15T12:01:59.470-05:00Thanks anonymous for that link.
"Here is the...Thanks anonymous for that link.<br /><br />"Here is the email that Jules sent to Andy Savage, Teaching Pastor of Highpoint Memphis.<br /><br /> <br /><br />——– Original message ——–<br /><br />From: Jules Woodson<br /><br />Date: 12/1/17 9:21 AM (GMT-07:00)<br /><br />To: andy.savage@highpointmemphis.com<br /><br />Subject: Do you remember?<br /><br />Do you remember that night that you were supposed to drive me home from church and instead drove me to a deserted back road and sexually assaulted me?<br /><br />Do you remember how you acted like you loved me and cared about me in order for me to cooperate in such acts, only to run out of the vehicle later and fall to your knees begging for forgiveness and for me not to tell anyone what had just happened?<br /><br />Well, I REMEMBER.<br />#metoo"<br /><br />http://thewartburgwatch.com/2018/01/05/i-thought-he-was-taking-me-for-ice-cream-one-womans-metoo-story-of-molestation-by-her-former-youth-pastor-andy-savage/<br /><br />This side gives some more information. It seems like him taken her for a ride and asking her to give him a blowjob, wasnt the first time he acted inappropiate with her (if the story is true that is)<br /><br />At the same time i wonder..........<br />"Over time, Jules began to confide in him. She was going through some difficult trials. Her parents had recently gone through a divorce. Also, she once attended a party and became the subject of unwanted forced sexual activity. It so disturbed her that she confided in Andy because she trusted him as her pastor."<br /><br />So if she had earlier experience of 'unwanted force sexual activity' why isnt she menioning this in her claim #metoo? Why would her experience with this pastor be the only story to tell and open up with if she had experienced earlier unwanted 'forced sexual activity?<br />Why does she not tell this?<br />Did she wrote that person an e-mail too (the one who had 'unwanted forced sexual activity' with her)?<br />Why does she call it 'unwanted forced sexual activity'? While the experience she had with Andy is called 'molestation'? What is the difference? <br />What has happened before what is called 'unwanted forced sexual activity'?<br /><br /><br />"Why she'd do what she claimed she did is unfathomable; that needs to be explored. Not to blame her, but to up and do such a thing on mere request is odd.<br /><br />Except if you were forced that is............she didn't say she was forced though. <br /><br />"I was scared and embarrassed"<br />I know when i was a teenager and had sexual interactions (the boy wanting me to give him a blowjob) with a boy (for the first time).......it could 'scare me and embarrasse me', not because the situation was abusive or i didn't want it, but because it was new and i was shy and insecure. She does not tell what exactly made her scared or feel embarrassed, so it could be because of shyness or insecurity.<br /><br />Habundiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01826623123769885956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48578041378659147392018-01-15T10:21:40.968-05:002018-01-15T10:21:40.968-05:00We look for racism in the language.
If POTUS is...We look for racism in the language. <br /><br />If POTUS is a racist, he will reveal this in the language and in his subsequent behavior. <br /><br /><br />Peter Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71475101124376525572018-01-15T10:06:54.212-05:002018-01-15T10:06:54.212-05:00Her behavior alone states that this wasn't an ...Her behavior alone states that this wasn't an isolated incident. Still, she was 17.<br />He was her "youth minister."<br /><br />The fact he lied to the church is telling. The first church he lied by reducing what had been done and already said by her that had been done. He went to his second church by lying by omission. He finally "fessed up" when he gets to Highpoint-or so he claims.<br /><br />The first church wanted him back after the lie. Highpoint still wants him after he admitted he lied and continued to reduce her claims.<br /><br />Why she'd do what she claimed she did is unfathomable; that needs to be explored. Not to blame her, but to up and do such a thing on mere request is odd.<br /><br />For him to request such a thing considering his position in the such is banishment worthy, imo.<br /><br />By most accounts written by American bloggers and the way the media is covering it, the subject is hard to understand.<br /><br />Here's a link to a Netherlands blog that asserts what takes so long to get to via American sources (perhaps the BS sifter slows me down asking why is this an issue?):<br />http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2018/01/12/jules-woodson-story-churchtoo/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-79048358855892690112018-01-15T10:04:32.691-05:002018-01-15T10:04:32.691-05:00Trump is not a racist, and Jules is not a victim.Trump is not a racist, and Jules is not a victim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-26167104513623227562018-01-15T09:39:49.246-05:002018-01-15T09:39:49.246-05:00ugh, apparently I can't tell you -- it's S...ugh, apparently I can't tell you -- it's Super Bowl! aaaagh But I am a robot!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33119697272885152502018-01-15T09:36:49.236-05:002018-01-15T09:36:49.236-05:00Habundia, I think even if it could pass, the added...<b>Habundia</b>, I think even if it could pass, the added, "That, I can tell you." weakened it to mush. It's like Paul Black's adding "I told..." to his lies to bury them in technical truth.<br /><br />"I can tell you" any words I'm capable of forming. "I can tell you" that I'm the first 51-year-old, disabled female to start at middle linebacker in the Superbowl.But I am a robot!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48902990377464081932018-01-15T09:35:54.156-05:002018-01-15T09:35:54.156-05:00Does the fact he did not stop his statement after ...<i>Does the fact he did not stop his statement after 'I am not a racist', made his statement deceptive?</i> If he would only have said 'I am not a racist', would it then have been a truthfull statement?<br /><br />I don't think it makes him a racist. He qualifies it weakening the statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-87144479097529650632018-01-15T08:45:05.821-05:002018-01-15T08:45:05.821-05:00OT
"He has now told reporters: "I am no...OT<br /><br />"He has now told reporters: "I am not a racist. I'm the least racist person you have ever interviewed."<br /><br />Trumps respons to his comments during a meeting last friday.<br /><br />So he is a racist? Only the 'least' racist person (the interviewer ever have interviewed) So he knows what persons the interviewer has interviewed during his work as interviewer/reporter?<br /><br />Does the fact he did not stop his statement after 'I am not a racist', made his statement deceptive? If he would only have said 'I am not a racist', would it then have been a truthfull statement?Habundiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01826623123769885956noreply@blogger.com