tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post8082008316604061489..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Statement Analysis of Darren Wilson: Conclusion Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33999480843660032592020-04-30T22:05:04.186-04:002020-04-30T22:05:04.186-04:00I feel the same. Now I feel a bit gross about thi...I feel the same. Now I feel a bit gross about this post.<br /><br />And this part:<br /><br />DET. Okay. And, does he comply?<br />D. WILSON: Never.<br />DET. At any point?<br />D. WILSON: Never.<br />DET. He turns around?<br /><br /><br />I thought never doesn't mean no or not?<br /><br /><br />.Nadine Lumleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05591663475427502169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39820467732082105822014-12-19T07:18:34.264-05:002014-12-19T07:18:34.264-05:00Buckley- that's what I thought. Thus, if the c...Buckley- that's what I thought. Thus, if the chain of evidence was broken, a judge would disallow the gun evidence from being introduced. <br />The more documents I read, the less confidant I feel my ability to determine the Truth. <br />I found the state medical examiners testimony very reliable. Plus you can just tell he's a straight up guy. <br /><br />All these grand jury document make me wish Boulder CO would release the documents from the Jon Benet case. Saranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-14974763605855827942014-12-19T01:59:32.521-05:002014-12-19T01:59:32.521-05:00I don't know Sara- both statements seem reliab...I don't know Sara- both statements seem reliable.Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087082956705159705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-21617063255731693392014-12-18T19:12:09.377-05:002014-12-18T19:12:09.377-05:00"Once we got out, I mean, I didn't run ve..."Once we got out, I mean, I didn't run very far or very long, urn, and that's when the shooting started."<br />^^^<br />the "shooting" started?<br />when he purposefully fired the gun from in the vehicle, he had to. when he fired the gun outside the vehicle and murdered brown, it was a "shooting". the cop knows he did not have to kill him, it was a shooting.judge dreadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53713565708448122432014-12-18T15:10:58.314-05:002014-12-18T15:10:58.314-05:00Buckley-
I don't know the witness number. I re...Buckley-<br />I don't know the witness number. I read some of the documents at the New York Times website. It was the page they have them all posted. It was under the heading "Grand Jury Transcripts"; titled "Vol 3: September 9, St. Louis County Detective page 7, Assistant Medical Examiner page 51"<br />It was testimony from the detective and testimony about the gun starts at page 29 out of 212.Saranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-60144955443135353152014-12-18T11:25:22.897-05:002014-12-18T11:25:22.897-05:00Sara- Do you know the witness # of the person who ...Sara- Do you know the witness # of the person who said it wasn't sealed?Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087082956705159705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-23158030700407322014-12-18T11:19:14.023-05:002014-12-18T11:19:14.023-05:00I went right to the bathroom and had to wash it of...<i>I went right to the bathroom and had to wash it off. I washed the blood off. I went into our roll call room, I took my belt off, I took my gun out, I made it safe, and I sealed it in an evidence envelope.</i><br /><br />There's understandable sensitivity about the blood, but the rest seems strong, straightforward, and reliable.Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087082956705159705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-34132257999706402362014-12-18T10:21:15.931-05:002014-12-18T10:21:15.931-05:00Buckley-I think you have read more source document...Buckley-I think you have read more source documents concerning the Brown case than most people.<br />What do you make of Wilson saying he put his gun into the evidence envelope and he SEALED the envelope but the St. Louis officer who processed the gun and swabbed for dna said that the envelope was UNSEALED?Saranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71921661807099456522014-12-18T02:56:36.974-05:002014-12-18T02:56:36.974-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39924594267981963492014-12-17T16:12:18.940-05:002014-12-17T16:12:18.940-05:00I believe the value of statement analysis is lesse...I believe the value of statement analysis is lessened when the person whose statement is analyzed has/may have training in Statement Analysis. Just as a polygrapher is knowledgable enough to fool the machine. Just as I could lie and pass a polygraph if my husband was a polygrapher and told me how to do it. <br />So, I put a lot of faith in the analysis of the lay people's statements. But I cannot have as much faith in the analysis of a police officer.<br />Readers of this blog, don't you think you could give a much more credible statement (when deceiving) than say your sister who does not read this blog?WorseThanRodneyKingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-4147839802800349352014-12-17T12:36:22.794-05:002014-12-17T12:36:22.794-05:00Peter said: "The Interviewer does not do a go...Peter said: "The Interviewer does not do a good job. Here, he not only interrupts again, but (again) gives the subject language. He changed "firearm" to "the gun"; it is better to only use the subject's own language whenever possible."<br /><br />So, it seems so.Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087082956705159705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-14149138500329220712014-12-17T12:18:14.262-05:002014-12-17T12:18:14.262-05:00Buckley said...
John, it's also worth noting ...<b> Buckley said...<br /><br />John, it's also worth noting when Wilson uses "firearm" he's in control of it; when he uses "gun" he is not in control of it and fears it may be used against him.</b><br /><br />Hi Buckley.<br /><br />D. WILSON: The, <b>my firearm was in his control</b>around my hand pointed directly into my hip.<br /><br />He states here that his "Firearm" was not in his "control" but in the control of his attacker. he then goes on to state.<br /><br />"He had already manipulated <b>I was not in control of the gun."</b><br /><br />Here again he states his was NOT in "control", this is where the change in language for me is confusing. Both times he wasn't in "control" yet "firearm" becomes "gun";<br /><br />My question is. Is it that he entered into the Detectives language which caused the chang of language ?John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22955469675410717902014-12-17T11:45:58.815-05:002014-12-17T11:45:58.815-05:00John, it's also worth noting when Wilson uses ...John, it's also worth noting when Wilson uses "firearm" he's in control of it; when he uses "gun" he is not in control of it and fears it may be used against him. Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087082956705159705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80010365001984929912014-12-17T11:35:45.086-05:002014-12-17T11:35:45.086-05:00OT: interesting... Amanda Knox is a freelance repo...OT: interesting... Amanda Knox is a freelance reporter now apparently <br /><br />http://www.people.com/article/amanda-knox-reporter-seattleimpulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873993729782135264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-67131566016766851682014-12-17T11:27:54.664-05:002014-12-17T11:27:54.664-05:00Most people seem to forget that all this evidense ...Most people seem to forget that all this evidense was brought before a grand jury, who chose not to recommend charges be brought. 3 black citizens were on the Ferguson jury. I have never heard how many voted what way. But I would put money on, if all the whites voted one way and the three blacks voted the other way, it would be seen to that it leaked out. <br />The sheer fact that it has not been addressed, makes me think it was unanimous.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38471705931115300822014-12-17T11:21:26.810-05:002014-12-17T11:21:26.810-05:00"He begins with "the", which may ha...<b>"He begins with "the", which may have been about the "firearm" but then takes ownership of it. Or, "the" could refer to something else, or someone else, including "the suspect..."<br /><br />"my firearm" is important to note the possessive pronoun, for without it, we may be looking at distancing language. <br /><br />DET. Okay, you're-you're holding the gun in your...<br /><br />The Interviewer does not do a good job. Here, he not only interrupts again, but (again) gives the subject language. He changed "firearm" to "the gun"; it is better to only use the subject's own language whenever possible. <br /><br /><br />He had already manipulated I was not in control of the gun."</b> <br /><br />Peter is this change in language, from "firearm to "gun" justified given the DET introduced it, and he has entered into his language. Other than that i can't see any other justification ?John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-44776383065639368012014-12-17T08:32:28.231-05:002014-12-17T08:32:28.231-05:00I read the article too.
"key" witness?...I read the article too. <br /><br />"key" witness?<br /><br />The media spins what it will. We have the language to guide us. Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22873486570311964862014-12-16T23:42:55.993-05:002014-12-16T23:42:55.993-05:00http://gawker.com/darren-wilsons-key-witness-was-b...http://gawker.com/darren-wilsons-key-witness-was-bipolar-racist-liar-1671681384<br /><br />Ferguson witness fabricated evidenceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-23179897064374561772014-12-16T20:14:29.212-05:002014-12-16T20:14:29.212-05:00To be clear, I DO believe the officer who used the...To be clear, I DO believe the officer who used the choke hold should have been punished for using the barred hold. <br /><br />If we expect those being arrested to follow the rules, then we MUST require the same of LE.<br /><br />All I'm saying is that I can't place ALL of the blame on the officers, as if their intention was to kill Garner. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680510856590830567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-67475343553977318782014-12-16T20:14:14.555-05:002014-12-16T20:14:14.555-05:00Racists come in ALL colors. Yet, the spin from me...Racists come in ALL colors. Yet, the spin from media and types like Sharpton (not a Real Reverend) is to program the public to think only whites as racist. Watch how the word gets tossed around, and it is always concerning a white skinned person.<br /><br />Poor choices, laziness, stupidity, con-man or con-woman has NOTHING to do with the color of one's skin.... rather behaviour, anyone could behave in such a manner.<br /><br />To phrase Forest Gump: "stupid is as stupid does."<br />AND "I'm not a smart man, but I KNOW what love is."<br /><br />Those who preach hate act not from love. Martin Luther would be ashamed of the Sharptons, and race baiters of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-89223127821631641192014-12-16T19:43:49.813-05:002014-12-16T19:43:49.813-05:00Eric Garner was not 'murdered'.
I do not ...Eric Garner was not 'murdered'.<br /><br />I do not for one minute believe that the police officer(s) involved intended to kill Garner. (*Especially not on video, which they knew was capturing everything!) <br /><br />They intended to arrest him, which could have been done safely and without incident if Garner had complied. <br /><br />I think it is tragic that Garner is dead over something so insignificant as cigarettes, but I can't solely blame the officers for what happened. Garner's resistance necessitated the use of force to make the arrest. That it went so horribly wrong is not the fault of ONLY the officer, as Garner is the one who paved the way for force to be used. <br /><br />You also have to understand that while Garner was saying 'I can't breathe'...he WAS breathing, and speaking, and resisting. This likely led the officers to believe, (wrongly as it turned out) that he was fine, and just putting on a show for the camera.<br /><br />Officers hear this kind of stuff almost every time they arrest someone. The person being arrested starts hollering about their bad back, or they need their heart pills, or their inhaler, etc. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680510856590830567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-64135448808845567242014-12-16T19:24:19.962-05:002014-12-16T19:24:19.962-05:00the analysis did not show deception.
He was und...the analysis did not show deception. <br /><br />He was under extreme attack and fired. The only issue I found was about the distance. <br /><br />This interview did not have the sensitivity that would arise later when he was accused of shooting an "unarmed teenager with his hands up", by media. <br /><br />Lies are more popular than truth. <br /><br />This did not sit well with racists or self-haters who think it must be race. <br /><br />There is much need for improvement in law enforcement in our country but to make a decision based upon the color of one's skin is both foolish, and it is against my personal, religious belief as "respecter of faces."<br /><br />This above statement puts me at odds with hiring quotas. <br />Hire the best and brightest and succeed. Hire on arbitrary things such as skin color and the results will not be as good as color-blind hiring based upon the best and brightest test scores, abilities, etc. <br /><br />******************************************************<br /><br />Eric Garner's wife said that her husband's case had nothing to do with race, either, but the race baiters did not listen. <br /><br />Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-64565888493953433372014-12-16T19:19:48.145-05:002014-12-16T19:19:48.145-05:00well said about Eric Garner.
I hope to put up a s...well said about Eric Garner.<br /><br />I hope to put up a short article on it...<br /><br />something in it might surprise readers. Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-4466420965165098062014-12-16T19:18:01.147-05:002014-12-16T19:18:01.147-05:00Buckley
Yeah, I agree he backed up, he says it in...Buckley<br /><br />Yeah, I agree he backed up, he says it in both statements...I just don't agree that it establishes anything about his intent, or state of mind, as he only backed up because it was necessary due to Brown and Johnson walking away from him, and ignoring his request.<br /><br />As far as the 'left' issue, I lean toward what Sus suggested. I think the sensitivity may not necessarily be due to him rushing, (although it could be) but more the fact that him hearing the market call, and description of the suspects on his radio as he 'left' the prior call, is significant to him as the beginning of the highly traumatic incident that followed seconds later.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680510856590830567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-79531193565894765482014-12-16T15:35:25.820-05:002014-12-16T15:35:25.820-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087082956705159705noreply@blogger.com