tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post8179419223406692750..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Michael Barrymore: What Happened?Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-61751941079795036892021-03-17T20:49:17.243-04:002021-03-17T20:49:17.243-04:00Justin merrited being arrestedJustin merrited being arrestedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-72492849863820361732021-03-17T17:00:41.251-04:002021-03-17T17:00:41.251-04:00I remember this joke going around of this scandal:...I remember this joke going around of this scandal: Barrymore is refusing to do pantomime anymore after he did a-lad-in a few years ago and hasn't heard the end of it'.IShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01110740397233660672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-52097360295654962242020-02-16T03:39:39.997-05:002020-02-16T03:39:39.997-05:00Thank you for this example of your brilliant work....Thank you for this example of your brilliant work. <br />All that you deduce seems valid and confirms the sense that MB is lying which we, (the untrained) take from seeing the interview without quite knowing why.Marirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05437536087753964321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59922206788754369332019-09-10T13:42:32.961-04:002019-09-10T13:42:32.961-04:00He also unwittingly makes it clear that it was not...He also unwittingly makes it clear that it was not a gay orgy because there were only 2 gay people there. This narrows down any homosexual assault to just 2 people. If the other person was Jonathon then the question can be reduced to whether Jonathon was in the house for the duration? If so then only one person is left. Is the "we" in his statement Stuart? Did MB go out to the jacuzzi with SL on some pretence but with the intention of engaging in sexual activity? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-90949943236465872862019-08-04T22:19:24.559-04:002019-08-04T22:19:24.559-04:00This was an amazing blog post. ... thank you so mu...This was an amazing blog post. ... thank you so much for sharing. One of the top ten on yr entire blog archieve here. It's chilling. Scary imho.<br /><br />This uggggg spooky.....<br /><br />The “answer” is limited to the subject’s lifetime. <br /><br />.Nadine Lumleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05591663475427502169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46700279630368730682019-08-02T16:43:01.896-04:002019-08-02T16:43:01.896-04:00I understood that Barrymore’s negative LD towards ...I understood that Barrymore’s negative LD towards Stuart was because he is self-pitying, and so he blames Stuart, and his death, for ruining his career, but I didn’t see it was also more than that, and that he had raped Stuart. I was tending more towards MB attempting to cover up that Stuart had been assaulted, possibly by Jonathan, and put into the pool, in the hope it would be considered an accidental drowning. MB had his career and lifestyle to lose, so logically, it would seem more likely that others, not having those cares, did it, and he and they staged a cover up, and that Stuart’s death, the circumstances, and the consequences, makes MB enduringly angry and self-pitying. Those were thoughts rather than analysis.<br /><br />The analysis has helped me better understand why MB speaks in such negative terms of Stuart, seemingly without any awareness, or consideration of Stuart’s family - it sounds as if he hates him, though almost a stranger to him. Overall, the analysis has surprised me, which probably goes with not giving due attention to the lights - they were so early on, too. <br />Hey Judehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05118508358051764200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-70348976918834610652019-07-31T19:15:34.385-04:002019-07-31T19:15:34.385-04:00I was struck by how vague and seemingingly contrad...I was struck by how vague and seemingingly contradictory Barrymore was in his description of what happened. His narrative didn't flow. The listener or reader can't get a clear picture of what happened because he's so unclear.<br /><br />Just this one sentence alone: "I went out there and had a joint and as we walked out I looked down" is a problem. He went out there -- so, he's out there now. But he didn't see Lubbock when he went out there. Instead, he had a joint. That's followed by "as we walked out" -- but he can't walk out because he's already out there. Also, in that one single sentence he changed from the singular "I" went out there to the plural "we" walked out. One might almost think he went out there by himself, had a joint, then went back into the house and walked out again in the company of other people.<br /><br />Then, he says "I looked down." If "we" walked out there, didn't "we" look down? Apparently, even though "we" walked out there, Barrymore was the only person who looked down & saw Lubbock.<br /><br />Of course, the people who may or may not have walked out there with him are not identified, making it impossible to discern if he really means to say that he walked out there alone or in the company of others.<br /><br />Then, after seeing Lubbock in either the pool or the jacuzzi (it's not clear which he's referring to), he ran back into the house to get Jonathon, and some mysterious unnamed "they" (presumably including Jonathon) went out to help Lubbock.<br /><br />I'm not sure if he ever did turn on the lights out there.<br /><br />Meanwhile, Barrymore said, "This is something I want to clear up. I did not flee the house." When I first read this, I thought he meant that, contrary to popular belief, he didn't leave the house, that he stayed at the house and called his assistant from there. But a couple of sentences later, it seems that he did indeed leave the house, when he says "I should have stayed." So, he did in fact flee the house. I think he means to take issue with the interpretation of his actions as "fleeing" -- but he doesn't say that, so I can't say it for him. What he actually says is "I didn't flee the house" and "I should have stayed."<br /><br />And he was just being deliberately obtuse here:<br />PM: How do you think Stuart died? <br />MB: I think he drowned. <br /><br />The cause of death was found to be drowning. Yes, Lubbock drowned. But that wasn't what PM was asking. Barrymore's glib answer "he drowned" doesn't address the anal injuries nor how he happened to drown in Barrymore's jacuzzi or pool. <br /><br />It seems to me that his description of what happened that night is so convoluted and out of order and self-contradictory, that Barrymore is not speaking from experiential memory. Even after all this time, he's making up a narrative to paint himself as innocent, but he just can't get the details in the right order.<br /><br />sonjayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17559777367367276323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-62876581947545983012019-07-31T17:30:47.301-04:002019-07-31T17:30:47.301-04:00Interesting. That suggests that Barrymore is the a...Interesting. That suggests that Barrymore is the actual perpetrator although the police couldn't prove it; but in Barrymore's letter they only deal with "the period immediately prior to the discovery of Stuart" where Barrymore put lights on and had a joint. This raises the question "What happened in the dark?" Why was the light off in the first place - apparently it was so dark that it was not possible to safely walk to the jacuzzi (from where?).Lars Bakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08253803171290866811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53686469644214906212019-07-31T15:02:13.629-04:002019-07-31T15:02:13.629-04:00One of the pathologists said Stuart’s severe inter...One of the pathologists said Stuart’s severe internal injuries were caused by a hard, “fist-sized” object being forced into him. Does MB unwittingly confirm this in the following sentence (from his denial, see previous blog post)?<br /><br /><i>“<b>And if I did</b>, you know, <b>I would have put my hands up ten years ago</b> … or eleven years, whatever it’s now.”</i>Autumnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38661964092408412182019-07-31T11:00:33.021-04:002019-07-31T11:00:33.021-04:00OT:
Hate Hoax
No transcript. Contains two clips...OT:<br /><br /><b>Hate Hoax</b><br /><br />No transcript. Contains two clips of her alleging a racist verbal attack.<br /><br />Snipped:<br /><br />Georgia State Rep. and Minority Leader Erica Thomas (D) took to Twitter on Saturday, saying a white man called her “a lazy SOB” and that she needed to go back to where she came from because she had too many items in the express lane at the local Publix.<br /><br />Unsurprisingly, it appears her nauseating performance was a lie. <br /><br />There really was an argument over Thomas’s inappropriate use of an express lane, but from there her story is evidently fiction.<br /><br />Thomas confirmed that she is not to be believed by changing her story, making the allegations vaguer. But like Jussie Smollett, she doggedly continues to insist that she was oppressed by racism.<br /><br />Oh shocking. He didn’t tell her to go back to where she came from. The truth is finally emerging. <br /><br />https://moonbattery.com/erica-thomas-joins-hate-hoax-list/John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-69352131303069179272019-07-31T07:38:08.743-04:002019-07-31T07:38:08.743-04:00Quoting what
Willow said...
OT. AI has been ...Quoting what<br /><br />Willow said...<br /><br /> OT. AI has been used in writing and media for tens of years.<br /> Today AI-created computer programs comments dupe real people to engage in discussions with AI n Youtube and on blogs.<br /> Is it possible to develop SA to detect deception of AI posing as a person, a commenter?<br /> Twenty years ago there was a pilot study where sports journalists were replaced by Ai-written reports of actual games. The readers didn't notice the difference.<br /> Without knowing we are communicating online with Ai-created algorithms appearing as commenters.<br /> A normal human gets quickly bored with Ai's style and retreats from the interaction.<br /> The programmed AI-entities don't get bored, they continue communicating with each other, quoting themself and flooding the available spaces. <br /><br /><br /><br />Thanks for your comment.<br /><br />This is very interesting about the use of AI, though it has been used for decades as you say, it is not discussed much and I had not given it much thought. <br /><br />I did see a video just recently of how an AI-created "customer" was able to dupe a (in this case unscrupulous)human telemarketer for a long time, leading him to spend useless time on the line with a machine and getting a sort of revenge on telemarketers. So it was a tables-turned case.<br /><br />But the fact that comments can be generated automatically, that could be applied to many cases, like PR manipulation for example, for political or other motives. A good thing to keep in mind.<br /><br />It would be interesting if SA could help detect.Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-91148283311464042622019-07-31T06:26:39.070-04:002019-07-31T06:26:39.070-04:00Exactly, Autum. And furthermore "going into s...Exactly, Autum. And furthermore "going into shock" is a process, normally used to describe shocks for physiological reasons, whereas the "popular sense" of being shocked is sudden: "I was shocked".Lars Bakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08253803171290866811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-86568936461850590172019-07-31T06:13:00.492-04:002019-07-31T06:13:00.492-04:00Lars, I agree and it's emphasized by the word ...Lars, I agree and it's emphasized by the word "just": MB didn't "go into shock" he "just" (as in: merely) went oh Christ. And i.m.o. the words "oh Christ" seem more like an expression of annoyance than of real shock and horror over Stuart's state.Autumnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28105791753141622992019-07-31T05:51:40.696-04:002019-07-31T05:51:40.696-04:00OT. AI has been used in writing and media for tens...OT. AI has been used in writing and media for tens of years. <br />Today AI-created computer programs comments dupe real people to engage in discussions with AI n Youtube and on blogs. <br />Is it possible to develop SA to detect deception of AI posing as a person, a commenter? <br />Twenty years ago there was a pilot study where sports journalists were replaced by Ai-written reports of actual games. The readers didn't notice the difference. <br />Without knowing we are communicating online with Ai-created algorithms appearing as commenters. <br />A normal human gets quickly bored with Ai's style and retreats from the interaction. <br />The programmed AI-entities don't get bored, they continue communicating with each other, quoting themself and flooding the available spaces. <br />Willownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-30904378001835957572019-07-31T05:41:02.869-04:002019-07-31T05:41:02.869-04:00Thank you for the update, Autumn. This did puzzle ...Thank you for the update, Autumn. This did puzzle me a bit:<br /><br />" PM: And what went through your mind?<br /><br />MB: (mumbles) went into a bit of a shock… I just went oh Christ and you know he quite obviously wasn’t moving much."<br /><br />Somebody "went into a bit of a shock…" was the first that went through his mind. But someone being shocked doesn't think "I'm being shocked right now", do they? I think he may be talking about Stuart. And it is immediatly followed by how he himself went, almost in contrast, starting with "I": "I just went..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-54210844963400901372019-07-31T05:29:42.332-04:002019-07-31T05:29:42.332-04:00Thank you for the update, Autumn. This did puzzle ...Thank you for the update, Autumn. This did puzzle me a bit:<br /><br />" PM: And what went through your mind? <br /><br />MB: (mumbles) went into a bit of a shock… I just went oh Christ and you know he quite obviously wasn’t moving much."<br /><br />Somebody "went into a bit of a shock…" was the first that went through his mind. But someone being shocked doesn't think "I'm being shocked right now", do they? I think he may be talking about Stuart. And it is immediatly followed by how he himself went, almost in contrast, starting with "I": "I just went..."Lars Bakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08253803171290866811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-23189893675559109812019-07-31T05:18:08.011-04:002019-07-31T05:18:08.011-04:00Anonymous, yes, that was also what was suggested b...Anonymous, yes, that was also what was suggested by a pathologist (Jack Crane) during an inquest. Indeed that may be why MB says "went into a bit of a shock". Another pathologist, Michael Heath, said that Stuart had suffered the injuries shortly before he died and that getting around would have been excruciatingly painful. So Stuart would have had trouble walking. In that case, it seems unlikely that he got in the pool by himself (if he wasn't already in there when the injuries were inflicted). Both pathologists thought the injuries were indicative of a serious sexual assault. Also: Stuart was found with his underwear on and the pathologists agreed that it’s highly unlikely he had been able to put on his own underwear after the sexual assault. <br /><br />MB, on the other hand, asserts that the injuries occurred after Stuart left his home. A duty nurse performed 14 rectal thermometer insertions on Stuart and has told MB’s lawyers he saw no evidence of any anal injuries (strange how "thermometer" pops up again in this case -> also: I doubt the nurse checked for <i>internal</i> injuries (?)). MB also says that one of the police officers said that he, when he was younger, jumped into a pool and had sustained exactly the same injuries. To me these explanations seem pretty desperate. MB seems to throw everything at the wall to see if it sticks.Autumnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-21696359282482833312019-07-31T03:05:42.859-04:002019-07-31T03:05:42.859-04:00Stuart was alledgedly found with not only injuries...Stuart was alledgedly found with not only injuries but with severe, internal injuries. This suggests not only rape but rape with "something", maybe even leading to shock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-27759141689303792972019-07-30T17:40:56.071-04:002019-07-30T17:40:56.071-04:00Brilliant work. I need to keep moving forward! Brilliant work. I need to keep moving forward! Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2855647555386686062019-07-30T16:14:20.280-04:002019-07-30T16:14:20.280-04:00Look at Michael Barrymore's gestures (body lan...Look at Michael Barrymore's gestures (body language) when he talks about discovering Stuart floating in the pool. See here (at 5:05): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lxiJ3q-hYQ. It is as if he is holding Stuart between his hands and looking down on him while he says:<br /><i>”(…) went into a bit of a shock… I just went oh Christ and you know he quite obviously wasn’t moving much.”</i><br /><br />Did Stuart lose consciousness (e.g. because of drugs and/or drowning and/or injuries) while Michael raped him in the Jacuzzi and did Michael literally see Stuart floating between his hands? I say Jacuzzi and not pool because Michael claims he cannot swim (something his ex-wife disputed). He says he then ran back into the house and got help from Jonathan. Jonathan Kenney was Michael’s boyfriend at the time and reportedly the only other gay man at the party. What kind of “help” did Jonathan – who had “lifeguard errr experience” – provide? <br /><br />Witnesses saw Michael rummaging through drawers and carrying something under his arm while leaving the house before the police arrived. One of the pieces of evidence that went missing after Stuart’s death was a pool thermometer. There’s a photograph of it lying on the edge of the Jacuzzi in this article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4541832/Michael-Barrymore-paid-witnesses-not-evidence.html . It has been speculated (by police law barrister John Beggs) that it was used to rape Stuart.<br /><br />AutumnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com