tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post8928150956957571428..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Baby Ayla Case by Kaaryn Gough Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-85696336240179751922012-11-08T07:56:57.339-05:002012-11-08T07:56:57.339-05:00Anonymous wrote:
TAKEN FROM FIRST SENTENCE IN SEC...Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />TAKEN FROM FIRST SENTENCE IN SECOND SPEECH “in finding my daughter, Ayla.”—the subject does not say anything about bringing his daughter back home. The parent of a kidnapped child will continue to believe the child is alive until presented with proof otherwise. The parents’ objective is always to get their child back home safely. In this sentence, the subject simply talks about “finding”.<br />“finding”—suggests the subject considers Ayla “lost”. One “finds” a missing person. One does not “find” a kidnapped person.<br />“…my daughter…”—the subject considers Ayla to be his alone. It should be noted that in the first letter the subject wrote, “First, I’d like to thank everyone involved for their continued support in finding our daughter, Ayla.” This indicates the subject no longer feels Ayla belongs to both him and Ayla’s mother.'<br /><br />I have brought this up before. I still believe that the use of 'we, us, our' shows a united front, committed to the same goals, whereas IMO the use of my .... suggests that both parents do not agree and/or that depending on how often the speaker uses the words me, mine or my the other parent's opinion is no longer even considered.<br /><br />I consider the mother who stands with her husband at her side and consistently uses the singular possessive words like I, me, mine etc to be extremely selfish and/or there are issues in the marriage.<br /><br />I have read from some that the use of 'we' or 'our' shows distancing, that the speaker is not taking ownership of his or her message. <br /><br />IMO the term 'my daughter Ayla' shows a breakdown in the relationship between the mother and this father. Something like the mother no longer believing the father is innocent of killing and disposing of her little girl would cause this monster to react and exclude her in his speech.<br /><br />November 6, 2012 10:13 AM >><br /><br />This post shows the use of principle while remaining flexible. It is a type of thinking I hope to see readership take in the 'next step' of analysis. <br /><br />First, the building blocks are learned. Things that are 80% likely, will by necessity, mean that 20% is not likely. <br /><br />We use generalities because they work, yet we must remain flexible enough to note context.<br /><br />Are the separated parents standing together, as one?<br /><br />Is there a change in language, by the mother, for example, after she began to learn of the father's involvement?<br /><br />Whether or not you agree with the above conclusions, the poster shows the ability to be flexible, while keeping one eye on principle and the other on context. <br /><br />This shows why good debate among analysts is relevant once the common principles have been established. <br /><br />Analysts generally do not differ on "truthful" or "deceptive" (the scientific portion), yet the skill of the analyst comes in the conclusion, as well as in the asking of questions. Here we find depth differences, for example. <br /><br />There are some comments on this page that should be studied by readership. <br /><br />Excellent work.<br />Peter<br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-14616886284932411952012-11-08T07:50:51.363-05:002012-11-08T07:50:51.363-05:00Beck,
I think she had a hand in it, too.
Rememb...Beck,<br /><br />I think she had a hand in it, too. <br /><br />Remember: we analyze the statement, not the subject. When the author is fully known, a profile emerges, but even allowing her influence is part of the overall understanding. <br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63517885924748199352012-11-08T00:56:21.067-05:002012-11-08T00:56:21.067-05:00I hope Kaaryn contributes to this blog on a regula...I hope Kaaryn contributes to this blog on a regular basis or starts her own blog.<br /><br />I had a thought about Justin'a statement. I find it hard to believe that Justin wrote it. He doesn't seem that intelligent. I think his girlfriend wrote it. Your thoughts on this, Peter?<br /><br />BeckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-21468929455083194562012-11-07T22:44:49.091-05:002012-11-07T22:44:49.091-05:00Yes it is the photo, Peter. Billie also said she ...Yes it is the photo, Peter. Billie also said she was with her bestie's that night. One of them she named as the new p.i. brought it to find Hailey. Unbelievable on one hand and yet given everything in this case, not ! (I don't know if the p.i. was there. I'm only passing along what was posted on Billie's facebook page by Billie) <br /><br />The latest drama on facebook is that Hope For Hailey is falling apart. Billie is blaming everyone who doesn't support her "truths". She cries that she is being bashed. And is using that as the excuse as to why she is losing people in HFH organization. <br /><br />Billie claims people are bashing "a mother of a missing child" if she is asked a question about her statements. And when you do not believe her "truths" she comes at you with aggressive and violent attacks. One statement was that someone was going to eat her fist. I remember what she called you as she hung up on the interview and that is actually mild compared to what she is hurling out there now. So with that ugliness being thrown around, some people have backed away and Billie is blaming the groups that do not believe her, not her own actions. Surprised? I know I'm not.<br /><br />I know I learned quite a bit about Statement Analysis with this case. It's great that some of the same statements are being used in trainings across the country !!<br /><br />I hope the D.A. moves on this case soon. With all this time, I hope they are putting together a strong case !!BostonLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833888944249432880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78518257662220358332012-11-07T01:51:53.859-05:002012-11-07T01:51:53.859-05:00Heads the shops to buy a sports car,my midlife cr...Heads the shops to buy a sports car,my midlife crisis sorted.<br /><br />BrrrrrrrrmmmmmmJohn Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-24810076601139951052012-11-06T23:37:00.739-05:002012-11-06T23:37:00.739-05:00Thank you for the explanation Peter!Thank you for the explanation Peter!Notamusernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-91444675503925474492012-11-06T20:57:19.604-05:002012-11-06T20:57:19.604-05:00BL,
I'll ask her.
Is that the inappropriat...BL,<br /><br />I'll ask her. <br /><br />Is that the inappropriate photo being emailed around where she is being picked up? <br /><br />She doesn't look like a mother "searching" for Hailey! <br /><br />There is not a single crime analyst, nor statement analyst, nor body language analyst anywhere that I have been able to locate, anywhere, tv, radio, internet, that thinks that police got it wrong in saying that Dunn and Adkins killed Hailey. <br /><br />There is no one...not a single one that thinks Billie Dunn told the truth. <br /><br />In fact, her statements are now being used in seminars around the country in teaching deception. <br /><br />We continue to wait upon the District Attorney to effect arrests. <br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33082797056368175772012-11-06T19:56:59.207-05:002012-11-06T19:56:59.207-05:00Hi Peter,
Has Kaaryn done analysis on any of Hail...Hi Peter,<br /><br />Has Kaaryn done analysis on any of Hailey Dunn's case? If so, I'd like to read. <br /><br />Billie Jean is imploding on Facebook. A picture of her out on a fun Saturday night has surfaced and it's very reminiscent of Casey Anthony.<br /><br />Have a good Monday ! BLBostonLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833888944249432880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45394279676929873042012-11-06T19:05:40.782-05:002012-11-06T19:05:40.782-05:00Notamuser:
"my daughter, Ayla" is a goo...Notamuser:<br /><br />"my daughter, Ayla" is a good introduction, however, he and Ayla's mother were not married and not together: Kaaryn was looking for the usual of "our" daughter. But "my" daughter excludes Trista Reynolds, whom he gives a very poor intro. This makes sense. <br /><br />Be flexible to the situation. "Our" is usually used in step parenting or shared parenting. "My" is usual for biological parents who are together. <br /><br />No disagreement. <br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38434266606492167382012-11-06T17:42:04.483-05:002012-11-06T17:42:04.483-05:00I get confused where analysts Seem to disagree.
...I get confused where analysts Seem to disagree. <br /><br />For example, wouldn't Peter prefer "my daughter, Ayla" as a proper introduction over "our daughter, Ayla?" Particularly when you have a case of two single, unmarried parents - not in a relationship & not living together, so Dip is not assumed to be speaking for Trista? Notamusernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-15064201692703238972012-11-06T17:25:03.019-05:002012-11-06T17:25:03.019-05:00I may have to grow older, nowhere in my book does ...I may have to grow older, nowhere in my book does it say i gotta grow up.<br /><br /><br />9 more days cooking and i would be 13, 1+3 equals 4 so neener neener.<br /><br />I am having my 2nd childhood early so i can enjoy it hehe<br /><br />Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-60086307991694931192012-11-06T17:19:31.051-05:002012-11-06T17:19:31.051-05:00Showing your age there Hobs,heheShowing your age there Hobs,heheJohn Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-21775406066885655552012-11-06T16:44:01.176-05:002012-11-06T16:44:01.176-05:00Kind of like the mccanns and their "there is ...Kind of like the mccanns and their "there is no evidence Madeleine has come to any serious harm" despite the reactions of the cadaver dogs in the apartment and car and the bod fluids found in the apartment and car.<br /><br />Things to make you go hmmmmmmmmm?<br />Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33012973129073290932012-11-06T12:54:04.068-05:002012-11-06T12:54:04.068-05:00I love reading Kaaryn's articles, she has so m...I love reading Kaaryn's articles, she has so much insight into the language people use.Lisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18722854852652763682012-11-06T12:10:06.179-05:002012-11-06T12:10:06.179-05:00Peter will you repost your analysis of this same s...Peter will you repost your analysis of this same statement as well? I want to compare the three. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13657738612998157982012-11-06T10:13:41.604-05:002012-11-06T10:13:41.604-05:00“First, I’d like to thank everyone for their conti...“First, I’d like to thank everyone for their continued support in finding our daughter, Ayla.” EXCERPT FROM FIRST SPEECH<br /><br />TAKEN FROM FIRST SENTENCE IN SECOND SPEECH “in finding my daughter, Ayla.”—the subject does not say anything about bringing his daughter back home. The parent of a kidnapped child will continue to believe the child is alive until presented with proof otherwise. The parents’ objective is always to get their child back home safely. In this sentence, the subject simply talks about “finding”.<br /> “finding”—suggests the subject considers Ayla “lost”. One “finds” a missing person. One does not “find” a kidnapped person.<br /> “…my daughter…”—the subject considers Ayla to be his alone. It should be noted that in the first letter the subject wrote, “First, I’d like to thank everyone involved for their continued support in finding our daughter, Ayla.” This indicates the subject no longer feels Ayla belongs to both him and Ayla’s mother.'<br /><br />I have brought this up before. I still believe that the use of 'we, us, our' shows a united front, committed to the same goals, whereas IMO the use of my .... suggests that both parents do not agree and/or that depending on how often the speaker uses the words me, mine or my the other parent's opinion is no longer even considered.<br /><br />I consider the mother who stands with her husband at her side and consistently uses the singular possessive words like I, me, mine etc to be extremely selfish and/or there are issues in the marriage.<br /><br />I have read from some that the use of 'we' or 'our' shows distancing, that the speaker is not taking ownership of his or her message. <br /><br />IMO the term 'my daughter Ayla' shows a breakdown in the relationship between the mother and this father. Something like the mother no longer believing the father is innocent of killing and disposing of her little girl would cause this monster to react and exclude her in his speech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-35265857999937649582012-11-06T09:16:38.580-05:002012-11-06T09:16:38.580-05:00OT..
Missing Atiya:
Mother's Plea for Infor...OT..<br /><br />Missing Atiya:<br /><br /> Mother's Plea for Information<br />The whereabouts of a girl who was kidnapped by her father are still unknown, three years after she was taken.8:39am UK, Tuesday 06 November 2012.<br /><br />The mother of a missing girl abducted by her father says she prays her "little bundle of joy" is safe and well, after being taken to Pakistan without her knowledge.<br /><br />Gemma Wilkinson, 32, from Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester, said not knowing whether five-year-old Atiya is even alive is an "absolute nightmare".<br /><br />Atiya vanished in November 2009 after going to stay with her father, Razwan Ali Anjum.<br /><br />The former insurance salesman said he was taking the girl to Southport. Instead he took her to Lahore, Pakistan, and told Ms Wilkinson she was "never going to see Atiya again", courts have heard.<br /><br />Anjum, who is in his late 20s, returned to the UK shortly after and was jailed by a High Court judge for refusing to reveal where his daughter was.<br /><br />Judges have imposed jail terms of two years, 12 months and another 12 months in the hope that he would provide information. They have re-jailed him as each sentence neared its end.<br /><br />Speaking ahead of Atiya's sixth birthday on Wednesday, Ms Wilkinson said: "It's been an absolute nightmare. As to her whereabouts we know nothing. We've had no contact.<br /><br />"I'm worrying every day, every single day. Everything is affected by it. When I close my eyes I see her.<br /><br />"I say goodnight to her every night before bed. I pray she's okay. We don't have any proof that she's okay, there is no proof she is still alive.<br /><br /><br />How missing girl Atiya Anjum-Wilkinson might look at 4-5 years of age.<br />"It's been discussed that she could have been sold, but I don't want to believe it.<br /><br />"She was so funny. She was a little bundle of joy. She loved her lip gloss and handbags - as soon as she got hold of my makeup bag, everything in it was hers. We just want her home."<br /><br />Ms Wilkinson's "on-off" relationship with Anjum ended in 2008.<br /><br />"He's enjoying playing his controlling mind games. It's just sick. Razwan is refusing to say where she is, who she's with and he won't say anything other than 'she's in Iran'," he said.<br /><br />Detective Constable Emma Constantine, of Greater Manchester Police's Child Protection Unit, said: "As far as we know, Razwan has had no contact with Atiya himself.<br /><br />"He's never received any letters or photographs of Atiya, so there's no way that he knows how she is."<br /><br />Detective Superintendent Phil Owen added: "We're working with a range of international agencies in order to find out who may be harbouring her, but it presents its challenges and problems and hopefully this is now the time to tug at heart-strings and generate information from the public."<br /><br />He argued Anjum "will convince himself that she's looked after" but that he couldn't know that.<br /><br />:: Anyone with information should phone police on 101, the Foreign Commonwealth Office on 020 7008 0878 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111.<br /><br />http://news.sky.com/story/1007289/missing-atiya-mothers-plea-for-informationJohn Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.com