tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post8964021224400170..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Fraudulent Go Fund Me RemovedStatement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25336813573275157542015-06-28T10:54:56.393-04:002015-06-28T10:54:56.393-04:00I cut and pasted Julie's facebook comment aski...I cut and pasted Julie's facebook comment asking the snopes editor not to "harass" the police officer, but what I did not pick up before was this - she made a typo where she meant to say MONDAY and instead said MONEY, which, as someone pointed out over on the snopes site, is very telling. I had copied and pasted this, so I did not make this typo. Julie did. Note this very telling slip in the third sentence:<br /><br />Julie Baker: “I would appreciate the officer not being harassed, they have bad guys to deal with, not filling internet pages. Kim, thank you for submitting changes, I noticed the conjecture went up really fast. The note was left money the 16th. I hope in the future the site does its best to get all of the facts before posting stories. There are many victims out \there of crimes that run the gammon of strange and difficult to believe, treating a victim like a sideshow attraction is cruel and dangerous and feeds sociopaths.”Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795011427041553070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-74706834754576136172015-06-25T22:26:28.896-04:002015-06-25T22:26:28.896-04:00Barf! I love it! Barf! I love it! Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10416944270093959243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-89465773469222349082015-06-24T19:19:02.789-04:002015-06-24T19:19:02.789-04:00Interesting. Very.Interesting. Very.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48554258490586729982015-06-24T18:04:18.590-04:002015-06-24T18:04:18.590-04:00Donations are off if you click on the make a s don...Donations are off if you click on the make a s donations it says donations are complete.<br /><br /> Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38797270700057811522015-06-24T14:41:07.925-04:002015-06-24T14:41:07.925-04:00That's especially strange. Personally, I keep ...That's especially strange. Personally, I keep track of what is said to me, or sent to me throughout my life. In regards to my writing, my career choices etc. I like to keep them as mementos, reminders of what had been said by people who didn't believe I could do something or that I would succeed. I use it knowing I will one day prove them wrong.<br /><br />My reason for saying that is the letter was the rallying point for all of those people. Why not post it? Frame it? As a reminder to her that THIS is what someone said when she celebrated who she is as a person, and that it caused all of this to happen. All the whimsy and rainbowy foolery. Donations are back open, possibly as a response to suspicions about her turning off the donations in the first place. She's effectively gotten herself stuck between a rock and a hard place. That is why lying causes so much stress on the human body, even a small lie requires dozens if not scores of other lies to keep it from being discovered, and to keep track of all of that currently exceeds the abilities of everyone aside from a few pathological liars.<br /><br />All she can do now is ride the gravy train and hope it doesn't derail.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696212539579604251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63671179428981538852015-06-24T13:47:11.375-04:002015-06-24T13:47:11.375-04:00So much for her stated intention to "work to ...So much for her stated intention to "work to remove any doubt about the authenticity of the letter. Until then I am not taking a dime out of this account."<br /><br />It seems like it is going to be pretty darn difficult to authenticate that letter now, since she disposed of it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795011427041553070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45653513810454367412015-06-24T12:27:13.162-04:002015-06-24T12:27:13.162-04:00My god, I can't even look at that relentlessly...My god, I can't even look at that relentlesslygay facebook group anymore. I went over there today to see if there was any response to the new snopes edits, and it was like being inside a scary rainbow dictatorship. Even some poor poster who simply noted that that she was leaving the group because there was too much talk of snopes and not enough about rainbows was declared a troll trying to stir up negativity. I think they will probably soon start holding public trials over there and people will start outing their friends for the crime of "negativity." Yikes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795011427041553070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-54976304077547650052015-06-24T12:04:46.844-04:002015-06-24T12:04:46.844-04:00That right there is all the proof you need. IF the...That right there is all the proof you need. IF the letter was legit and knowing that so many people doubted it, a genuine victim would never have disposed of it. They would put it in the safest of places to bring out as evidence to support their claim. The ONLY reason to get rid of the letter is if it is fake and could be proven to be fake. She knows that the police can match letters to printers and ink, and so she had to get rid of it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795011427041553070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-26190599248619951232015-06-24T11:54:02.551-04:002015-06-24T11:54:02.551-04:00"On 24 June 2015 we spoke to a detective at B..."On 24 June 2015 we spoke to a detective at Baker’s local precinct, to whom we were referred by individuals connected with the Relentlessly Gay campaign. Although Baker had stated the previous day that police were “satisfied” with her claim, the detective to whom we spoke said that Baker was either unwilling or unable to produce the letter in question, and that she had maintained it was no longer in her possession. The detective also indicated that he had attempted to meet with Baker in person the previous day but was unable to do so."Andreanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-15384271645368412682015-06-24T08:15:19.880-04:002015-06-24T08:15:19.880-04:00There is no crime committed.
If she withdraws t...There is no crime committed. <br /><br />If she withdraws the money, a crime is committed. <br /><br />that's what they are waiting for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-10813699324972036642015-06-24T04:46:18.023-04:002015-06-24T04:46:18.023-04:00I keep telling myself that I'm going to step a...<br />I keep telling myself that I'm going to step away from all of this for a little bit so that I can do my freaking schoolwork, but there is just so much going on. I simply can't believe how much time and energy this is sucking away from all of us. It's only just begun, though.<br /><br />I am the person who created Fabulously Fraudulent, which many of you have hopefully become familiar with by now. I am breakingthisdown (http://breakingthisdown.imgur.com/). I'm just wanting to let you all know that they purged not only me from the site (on 19 June) and Dana (the day after), but now Oliver. Dana had been copying and pasting my comments back onto the page when she was blocked. Oliver had been sharing the link to imgur account that I had created for the sole purpose of exposing how very fake this all appears. Please, share my imgur with your friends. Facebook. Twitter. Wherever. This can't be right. I'd ask that you mention that they are blocking people or share my link on the site itself, however they may retaliate by blocking you also and, really, we need all of the questioning voices that we can get on this. Peter and Tania, if you could mention it, though, I would really appreciate it. You both are simply too well-known by now for them to dare to block you, I'd say.<br /><br />I'm at @burningparamour on Twitter. Please retweet my tweets -- there are two in particular. Now, I should really get going. Wrists are acting up.<br /><br />@Anonymous June 23, 2015 at 9:53 AM, thanks a lot. That means a lot to me.Andreahttp://breakingthisdown.imgur.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80569593753478158372015-06-24T02:24:18.417-04:002015-06-24T02:24:18.417-04:00Matt- I think she's vacillating between making...Matt- I think she's vacillating between making it a big deal and downplaying it. She fears for her children's safety (now where else did we hear concern for children?) and saying "I didn't make a big deal of it." Gone is the language about the person who left the note- now she has "naysayers" to direct her angst at. She shifts between "I'm all good with the police" (implying she's cleared) to "they aren't investigating me". Which is it?<br /><br />Did anyone pick up on the Snopes editor's doubts about it all in her language? Noting the gofundme started the very same day she found it.<br /><br />blu- if the officer says he can't comment on an ongoing investigation, that contradicts her assertion there's no investigation, right?Red Meatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46698967138573905542015-06-24T01:06:45.402-04:002015-06-24T01:06:45.402-04:00Red Meat,
Did you also notice that she referred t...Red Meat,<br /><br />Did you also notice that she referred to finding the note as "treat it with the respect it deserves" specifically the word respect. You have interesting insights, I would appreciate your thoughts.Matt Whannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28010206580807750682015-06-24T01:00:51.546-04:002015-06-24T01:00:51.546-04:00"There are many victims out \there of crimes ..."There are many victims out \there of crimes that run the gammon of strange and difficult to believe, treating a victim like a sideshow attraction is cruel and dangerous and feeds sociopaths."<br /><br />Yet again she refers to victims but does not identify herself as a victim. Same way that Charlie Roger's did. If she does not say it, we cannot say it for her.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08696212539579604251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47770945885358950612015-06-24T00:30:10.200-04:002015-06-24T00:30:10.200-04:00Tania great points!! Buy likely there is a third o...Tania great points!! Buy likely there is a third option and that would be that the investigator would say he cannot comment on an ongoing investigation. Jen ow...it's a bit of a hasty generalization to say that all crimes harm society. I can think of many crimes that were caused by definition but that actually benefited society in this case you are correct it could even be argued that it is hurt humanity and other more specific groups in society. it figures the imagination that anyone would come on here and argue that this woman has done nothing wrong by profiting from ally, and/or that we should not care. I care. I don't want someone to profit from a lie. if that makes me a small person then I am a small person who wants her to get caught. I also want her to stop using the word whimsy.blunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6994676607462438182015-06-24T00:11:20.050-04:002015-06-24T00:11:20.050-04:00So....assssssssscccccllloooowwwnnn may be defined ...So....assssssssscccccllloooowwwnnn may be defined as one who will not or is unable to amass wealth via the defruading of gullible citizens? Yes! I too am an assssscccxlllloWNnnn.blunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46432253133973651142015-06-23T22:50:20.053-04:002015-06-23T22:50:20.053-04:00She just can't keep her story straight.
It is...She just can't keep her story straight.<br /><br />It is telling that when the Snopes Editor asked for the officer's name (in order to validate the authenticity of the note and thus the fund or not) julie immediately gets defensive and says <b>"I would appreciate the officer not being harassed, they have bad guys to deal with, not filling internet pages.</b><br /><br />Committing fraud be it wire or internet makes her a bad guy and, since it has crossed state line and possibly even gone international, she is in deep doodoo.<br /> <br />The officer would not be being harrassed, it is in her interest to have the Snopes Editor speak to the officer and have them confirm the veracity of the story.<br /><br />Guilty people, people with something to hide, who are being deceptive, do not their story questioned or investigated.<br />She knows that if the officer is asked he will either say the fake letter is genuine which would support her story and she would be shouting it from the roof tops to we naysayers or, he will say the letters was faked, she wrote it herself in which case it is game over for her as her deception is laid bare, especially on the Snopes site which has an excellent reputation for revealing the truth or the lie of a story.<br /><br />She may be able to fall some members of the public, it is a whole different thing to fool someone who knows what to look for is a faked story.<br /><br />I wonder Peter, if you did a show and asked her to come on and speak about the letter and the fund, with the opportunity to show she is telling the truth and why she should be believed, if she would agree?Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-4523559149580659472015-06-23T22:24:26.620-04:002015-06-23T22:24:26.620-04:00I'm glad you are very polite. Thanks for that,...<i>I'm glad you are very polite. Thanks for that, please also understand that I am not under investigation. I am grateful that police have stopped to state that they will keep an extra eye out to ensure the safety of my children, because you know, crazy people that are obsessed because I had a random act of harassment committed against me. <br />It was found in the morning, I chose to treat it with the respect it deserved, non. Just as I stated in the fund raiser, which poked fun at it and I hoped would help provide for more whimsey. It going viral was a shock.</i><br /><br />"Random" act of harassment? I thought it was a neighbor with a specific grievance.<br /><br />Note the passive voice in "it was found in the morning."Red Meatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-12497917721905452362015-06-23T21:36:33.208-04:002015-06-23T21:36:33.208-04:00Before Julie asked that the officer not be bothere...Before Julie asked that the officer not be bothered, one of her friends posted this:<br /><br />The police officer that left their card is W. Mueller 410.887.5040.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795011427041553070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-56735856015764104672015-06-23T21:34:32.139-04:002015-06-23T21:34:32.139-04:00Yep-
If you are at the site, you may ask her the o...Yep-<br /><i>If you are at the site, you may ask her the officer's name that she spoke to. <br /><br />Then, put on your S/A lens, fasten your seatbelt, and prepare yourself for the answer. <br /><br />Peter<br /></i><br /><br />The snopes editor is asking about it on FB and Julie doesn't want "the officer" (singular) bothered..."they" (gender neutral) have better things to do.Red Meatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-61482389594977525822015-06-23T21:30:55.741-04:002015-06-23T21:30:55.741-04:00It appears that the people on the Relentlessly Gay...It appears that the people on the Relentlessly Gay Facebook are eager for the Snopes editor to declare the fundraiser legit. She responded to the group with the info that she must speak to Baltimore County police directly and cannot publish their secondhand version of what the police said. She asked for the officer's name and this is how Julie responded:<br /><br />Julie Baker: "I would appreciate the officer not being harassed, they have bad guys to deal with, not filling internet pages. Kim, thank you for submitting changes, I noticed the conjecture went up really fast. The note was left money the 16th. I hope in the future the site does its best to get all of the facts before posting stories. There are many victims out \there of crimes that run the gammon of strange and difficult to believe, treating a victim like a sideshow attraction is cruel and dangerous and feeds sociopaths."<br /><br />Looks like she is working hard, BTW, to improve her capitalization skills.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795011427041553070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-86191019121898147612015-06-23T21:17:34.792-04:002015-06-23T21:17:34.792-04:00Hi Apple! Hi Apple! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680510856590830567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-15641662122648816852015-06-23T21:03:44.919-04:002015-06-23T21:03:44.919-04:00Well, the campaign site is back up. Uncertain if ...Well, the campaign site is back up. Uncertain if the donate button is back in operation. Even if the state's attorney doesn't pursue criminal charges, anyone who donated due to the letter and feels duped can actually sue for theft by deception via small claims court. Plus, the IRS will be involved in 2016. Go Fund Me will be sending a 1099 to Julie and the IRS reflecting the funds raised as taxable income. I doubt that the IRS will be convinced that decorating her house to retaliate against the neighborhood is a valid tax-deduction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-58091276009646651972015-06-23T20:37:19.502-04:002015-06-23T20:37:19.502-04:00Jen Ow!
You nailed it.Jen Ow!<br />You nailed it.Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968798156509107306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-19899914146842457232015-06-23T20:23:08.694-04:002015-06-23T20:23:08.694-04:00"increase in posts like "even if it is f..."increase in posts like "even if it is fake" on the site"<br /><br />By that I meant increase in members of the RG facebook group admitting their doubts by saying "even if it is fake".Red Meatnoreply@blogger.com