Tuesday, July 2, 2013

Edward Snowden Statement

What has happened to our country?  Our freedom of speech is gone, with Americans fearful, for example, of losing their jobs over holding certain views, now under attack.  People of faith are now called "hate" and we have left definition for a by-gone era, leaving no landmark from which to measure. 

The Internal Revenue Service deliberately targets those of certain political or religious persuasion, to the very point of gaining access to medical records of United States citizens, once held sacred between doctor and patient, to use as arm twisting black mail, the release of sensitive or embarrassing information.  

We are very much like the Germany of the early 1930's, even if we have forgotten school children being taught to chant the president's name.  The right to bear arms, to resist tyranny, has been eroded to the point where it is about to end. 

Drones, and spying on our own citizens, even as our welfare system continues to grow and grow, without check or discrimination, and control is given to the government, now over our health and personal social security.  

We have major news networks willing to photoshop pictures in order to suit their philosophy or political belief, and when caught, suffer no consequence from the gullible, under-educated public. 

Some believe that Edward Snowden is a hero for showing the world our devious spying, while others consider him a traitor. 

Who do you trust?  

Best to listen, for yourself, and decide what you believe, from the words spoken, through the lens of Statement Analysis. 

I let readership analyze this statement first.  

What do you see in it?

"One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.

On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic "wheeling and dealing" over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.

This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.

For decades the United States of America has been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.

In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many."
Edward Joseph Snowden
Monday 1st July 2013


Anonymous said...

He's finished

He tried selling "secrets" but the "secrets" were never secret

21 countries rejected his pleas for asylum, including Russia, China, Iceland, Ecuador, Cuba, Venezuela, India, Spain, Libya

Russian authorities seized his deactivated passport, preventing him from travelling

Russian authorities made it perfectly clear that basically, if he does not shut up, they will prosecute him for treason against countries allied with Russia

Expect him to ask Russia to send him back to the US to surrender in a few weeks, if not in a few days

Anonymous said...

Nobody fuqs with Putin

Anonymous said...

"We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless"


He made himself "stateless" by fleeing the US

He imprisoned himself by committing a host of federal laws and international laws

He made himself powerless by giving up the power US govournment and US intelligence agency invested in him

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless"


He made himself "stateless" by fleeing the US

He imprisoned himself by violating federal laws and international laws

He made himself powerless by giving up the power US govournment and US intelligence agency invested in him

Anonymous said...

Amen? Absolutely!

Snowden is a traitor who has committed treason not only against the U.S. but also against some foreign countries as well, in that he has also revealed some of their highly classified secrets from one country to another.

It was one thing when he told us all how we were being invasively and secretly monitored, but quite another when he hightailed it to foreign countries spilling highly classified secrets that could ultimately lead to a third world war if not very carefully purged.

Dumb, silly goose; did he actually think he could overthrown the Government of the United States of America? Apparently so.

reformed troll xxxxxxx said...

He is a rabbit in the headlights,à guilty treason commiting scoundral."secrets"are SECRET for a reason!

Sus said...

Snowden's statement tells me that he is personally invested in a battle against the Obama administration rather than the good of US or World citizen's.

He uses "left Hong Kong" in his first sentence. His mind is on Hong Kong, more than likely because he sees himself as winning the battle up till that point.

When Snowden speaks of Obama's political moves, he brings them close to him and at the same time sees Obama "ordering " all pieces around....almost like chess pieces. Snowden knows Obama made the right moves and Snowden has lost.

Snowden does try to pull in others with him in the last paragraph, using we at that point. He speaks of other leakers and ultimately the public, but only in regard to helping him win his game.

From this statement, I believe Snowden leaked "secrets" as a political move that he lost at. Check in Hong Kong /China for who is behind it.

Anonymous said...

Snowden is NOT a traitor! He has risked his life to open the eyes of the American citizens. Do you want all your basic right taken away? because it is happening right before your eyes. take a good look at the obama administration. because now you can.

Anonymous said...

"In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.

I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many."

Amen. This is not the country I grew up in. It's been hijacked by the father of lies, and Obama allowed himself to be his tool, while hatred was seething beneath the surface of the masses.

Obama is afraid of us. He is afraid of individuals. He is afraid of those that know and would speak the truth. God doesn't try to silence the devil. It is the devil who tries to silence God.

Nanna Frances said...

Did anyone hear former Vice President Dick Cheney say the Bush administration was doing the same thing? This activity is not new!

Anonymous said...

It would appear the dummies' daddy, Lonnie?, is just as stupid as he. Can you imagine the audacity? This idiot has offered the possibility of one of three agreements for the United States to be able to negotiate Edwards' return.

Good Lord, what a joke. Some little peon thinks he holds this kind of negotiating sway over multiple mega-powers? The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me. It's almost laughable.

You don't negotiate with the United States of America! You wind up with your few body parts that can be found in a shoe box, if they can be found at all.

Anonymous said...

" the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
"...........my thoughts exactly. Mindy.

Anonymous said...

We were not silenced or intimidated by the Bush administration. George W. Bush respected free speech.

Nic said...

Just step back and look at what has been revealed...

Obama-supporting bureaucrats using private/classified information to harrass Republicans (traitor who?)

Spying/bugging on G8 "friends" a la Cold War times. (Traitor who?)

Monitoring every participant on the internet and cell phones, etc., using "trusted" third parties (Google, Yahoo, etc.) to do it and then everyone of them lying about it when it is revealed. To what end? No doubt there is some monitoring of communication between citizens of nations. However, what to do with the rest of the learned behavior? How about instead of targeting joe blow citizen with ads as per their buying habits, they (government) target them with political leaning propoganda based on reading habits? So depending on your region your article is slanted and spun a certain way to impress upon your decision making. Kind of like what the left-leaning print media is doing to the mass right now - except that now there is a second (electronic) stream they can control/use to sway the voter. Don't laugh, advertisers used to manipulate buyers via their commercials on TV in 1970's, remember?

These media tactics I'm talking about have been employed upon the masses since WWII.

The slippery slope to "espionage tactics" has a slippery slope and it's very apparent if people would just look at the facts: It undermines Constitutional (privacy) RIGHTS that each and everyone of us throughout N.A. (and then some) hold. Yet many are willing to toss their rights aside because they are star-struck. That's all. They like Obama's charisma. The man who won the Nobel Peace prize 1.5 WEEKS into his term for what was it again? Getting people out to vote for "change". Sounds like being "conditioned" into apathy to me.

IMO, what is behind revealed is what is behind The Wizard's curtain. Revealed programs/practices have nothing to do with terrorism. It's about being #1. It is about an administration addicted to power and control over not just A nation but a GLOBAL COMMUNITY. The collateral damage being the erosion of our beloved democracy and freedom which are suppose to be protected by Constitutional RIGHTS... not entitlements.


Anonymous said...

No ma'mam, Anon @ 11:07; Obama is NOT afraid of us. Neither are any of our other super powers. Edward Snowden is kidding himself, like the fool he is.

Our CIA and massive security agencies and measures that have been put in place for many years duration, and continue to evolve; were NOT created for one little person to be able to bring them down, OR for a whole conglomerate of peoples to be able to bring them down. Wise up.

Surely you jest.

Anonymous said...

He is not a traitor. Our country is run by a second generation team of assholes. Yes, I voted for this asshole. I regret it. Go ahead and cede your civil liberties. You're on your own, friends.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Snowden,

You sir, are a treasonous wretch. You stole that which did not belong to you. You fled to a foreign country and began giving them and other foreign countries information that will have dangerous consequences to innocent American lives. You have emboldened the enemy by teaching them some of how we find them. This enemy is common between many countries, therefore you have endangered their people as well- to include Russia.

You claim human rights violations, yet you fail to remember that human rights violations and those protections are for people who have done nothing wrong. Whereas, you wish to be known as a hero after committing theft and treason. If you indeed had information you believed was important for AMERICAN people to know, there were various different ways you could have sought to disseminate that information without placing the lives of innocent people in harms way, or selling out to foreign countries.

You are where you are in the position you are in solely by your own immature, selfish and treasonous behavior. You can continue to dig this hole deeper, however, I suggest you "put the shovel down and walk away" by negotiating your safe return to face the consequences you created all on your own.

May God have Mercy on you

Anonymous said...

"He has risked his life to open the eyes of the American citizens"

He risqued his life telling you..............what you ALREADY K NOW?

You're a fucking idiot if you did not know the US govournment spies



He's a fucking idiot, just like Peter "Execute the Kenyan N!gger!" Hyatt and all you other racist republicans

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 12:51, there is no need for anyone posting here to start cursing others or their political persuasions, nor is there any reason to use the N word; this just shows your illiteracy and lack of knowledge.

Anon @ 2:26, I agree and applaud your stance.

Nic said...

"racist republicans". Is that what the media teaches you, Anon 12:51? Just because many don't approve of the President's decision making style/governing style and say so, and just because he happens to be black, that makes voters who vocalize their disagreement/judgement racist? What would a republican be if Obama were white? Astute? Observant? Critical?

Stop playing the "I don't have an intelligent response to the brazen facts and it goes against my cult-ish, bobble head conditioning, so I will cry foul/racist to make [it] stop!!" card.

Anon@12:26 - Don't be fooled about who know's/doesn't know what. They have all sat at the same table (G8/G20) and have shared/tabled much of their strategies and tactics in order to garner MONEY/economic support from each other. In return for their trust, the Obama administration has shown themselves to be a spy against their own allies. Someone who is working at cross-purposes. The world didn't already know that, but they do now.

FYI, what Snowden "shared" is owned by every tax paying voter of the U.S.A. You bought it. Your tax dollars maintain it. In short, it's yours.

Anonymous said...

anon 12:51
Did you get a free cell phone too! and maybe some welfare cash.

REK said...

why didn't the people who write the constituation add clauses about internet spying, cell phone calls, etc.??

REK said...

well. that should say wrote the constitution.

i mean.. the laws that were written a couple hundred years go..should encompass this day and age? am i right?

sidewalk super said...

I find myself respecting this guy. As I read it, he is telling truth as it is.

Aside: do any of us (not including the prolific anonymouses I have learned to scroll past) really know what exactly it was that Snowden knew and has chosen to share?

Nah, I thought perhaps not.

Therefore how can you accuse him of anything?

Except being a total pain in the a-- to the current administration.
Anyway, I suspect Obama is still pre-occupied with turning the White House into a booking agency for speaking engagements and expensive vacations.

Anonymous said...

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Posted: 07/02/2013
Last Updated: 26 minutes ago

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James Nichols died of natural causes in December at the age of 82. Police found his body after neighbors said they hadn't seen him for days.

With no relatives coming forward to claim the body or deal with the estate, county officials buried the IBM retiree and hired a contractor to clean out the house, which was stuffed with hoarded items and trash.

On Friday, the contractor found the skeleton sealed in a plastic container behind a false wall.

The Dutchess County medical examiner's office identified the remains Monday as those of JoAnn Nichols, based on dental records. Dr. Kari Reiber says the 55-year-old woman died from a blow to the head.

valyriew said...

Except when we disagreed with his actions

Anonymous said...

Snowden's statement reveals that he thinks himself very clever. He enjoys being in the limelight - delights in his belief that world leaders are spending their days considering him and his next move.

He cites "deception" and "exile" as "the old, bad tools of political aggression." Seems like a disconnect to me. Both of those strike me as diplomatic and non-aggressive.

Anonymous said...

REK, I think your question answers itself. Our founding fathers had no way of knowing there would ever be such things as the internet and cell phones. How could they? Unheard of.

Super Sidewalk, I think you do yourself a disservice not giving any weight to those posts made by the anonymous posters that you skim right over. Look, read, live & learn Super, don't shut yourself off from the possibility of increasing your knowledge.

Anonymous said...

Edward Snowden has made a complete fool of himself, only he doesn't know it yet.

Nic said...

If this were Bush, he would be crucified for ruining diplomatic relations/ties. But because this is Barak Obama, he's getting a pass/down play in the N.A. media and the blame is being shifted to Snowden. Not so abroad.... they lay blame where it belongs.




Kerry, the US secretary of state, delivered a low-key response to the growing European clamour for answers, saying the NSA activities were not unusual. "Every country in the world that is engaged in international affairs of national security undertakes lots of activities to protect its national security and all kinds of information contributes to that," he said. "All I know is that is not unusual for lots of nations."

A sense of naked outrage gathered momentum across Europe at the reports that US agencies were bugging and tapping EU offices in Washington and New York, as well as the embassies of several EU member states. The push for clear answers from the Americans threatened to derail long-awaited talks on a transatlantic free trade pact between the US and the EU to create the world's biggest free-trade area.

"Washington is shooting itself in the foot," said Germany's conservative Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper. "Declaring the EU offices to be a legitimate attack target is more than the unfriendly act of a machine that knows no bounds and may be out of the control of politics and the courts."

Martin Schulz, the president of the European parliament, likened the NSA to the Soviet-era KGB and indirectly suggested a delay in the talks.

Greens in the European parliament, as well as in France and Germany, called for the conference to be postponed pending an investigation of the allegations. They also called for the freezing of other data-sharing deals between the EU and the US, on air transport passengers and banking transactions, for example, and called for the NSA whistleblower, Edward Snowden, to be granted political asylum in Europe. French Greens asked Hollande to grant Snowden asylum in France.
Schulz said: "I feel treated as a European and a representative of a European institution like the representative of the enemy. Is this the basis for a constructive relationship on the basis of mutual trust? I think no.


While the anger is broad and growing across Europe, it is particularly intense in Germany which, according to Snowden's revelations, is by far the main target within the EU of the NSA's Prism programme sweeping up metadata en masse, capturing and storing it.

Given the high sensitivity of data privacy issues in Germany, the scandal could test Merkel and force her on to the offensive against the Americans as she seeks to win a third term in general elections 11 weeks away.


Germany's federal prosecutor's office has also opened inquiries into the NSA debacle, with a view to establishing whether German laws have been breached.


"The Americans justify everything with combatting terrorism," said the Luxembourg foreign minister, Jean Asselborn, who on Sunday described the latest allegations as disgusting. "The EU and its diplomats are not terrorists."


Harlem Désir, the head of the French Socialist party, told France Info radio that if the latest revelations were true, "it would be an unacceptable scandal". He said the spying allegations were of such a nature that they could call into question the EU-US negotiations. He added: "The fight against terrorism cannot explain everything."

France's justice minister, Christiane Taubira, said, if confirmed, the US behaviour was of unspeakable hostility.

Anonymous said...

All chaos has broken loose with Obama administration. What does that say?


I'll take order, even with misjudgements. All I ask is that you try to figure out the right thing to do and try to do it.

Whom does chaos benefit? Why can't this admin get it together?

It sickens me to watch the deterioration of my country.

It sickens me that Obama wants to tear down the very country that made it possible for him to be POTUS. He needs to let go of his bitterness before we lose everything.

I am sick of the LIES, LIES, LIES. They are like poison to those of us who are still alive and grateful for it. The people who support Obama are the living dead.

BostonLady said...

Spying has been going on for decades. This is not new. Telling the secrets of our country to our enemies is treason.

The forefathers did not foresee the world of electronic monitoring. We live in a very different world and it feels to be spiraling out of control. What was developed to protect our borders is now being used to eventually control our citizens. I am very concerned with the mandated health care. Our records will now be available to anyone. And as Peter suggested, used to control us. We won't have a choice in who we seek for treatment or how we are treated. Our medical care is being watered down.

How about all the new "mandates" of you can't buy a big gulp because "those in control" have decided this is bad for you. This is an example of the nanny state. Northern CA had voted to outlaw happy meals because "those in control" have decided that it is bad for children to have food with toys. Why can't that be left up to the parents? Has it come to the point where we don't know what is good for us? This will transfer to your medical care. It will be decided by "those in control" whether you are eligible for that cancer treatment. If you are past a certain age, you may be told no. It won't be whether you want to try it, willing to pay for it. It will be decided for you because we will all be on the Obamacare plan.

What is the answer? I wish I knew. We can't go backwards. Do we stop using the internet, smart phones, gps, debit cards, credit cards, anything that tracks our movement in order to escape the monitoring?

Nic said...

Kerry, the US secretary of state, delivered a low-key response to the growing European clamour for answers, saying the NSA activities were not unusual. "Every country in the world that is engaged in international affairs of national security undertakes lots of activities to protect its national security and all kinds of information contributes to that," he said. "All I know is that is not unusual for lots of nations.

"low-key" response? That's an understatement. "every country" "all kinds of information contributes to that" (distancing) "all I know" "'lots' of nations"

Pretty weak.

BostonLady said...

Kerry is a moron. Thank God he was never voted in as President.

Anonymous said...

"If this were Bush"

We'd be at war with Iran and Syria and Yemen and Lebanon,, we'd still be at war with Iraq, there would be no cancellation of the Afghanistan war, and we would have forces in Gaza and the West Bank fighting Arabs on behalf of Israel

Anonymous said...

Bush's trip to Africa cost you 30 BILLION dollars you racist clueless scumbags

And Bush's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq cost the US TRILLIONS of dollars and DESTROYED THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND TRIGGERED THE ARAB SPRING, a "Spring" intended to oust Arab govournments whom are allied with the US and Israel

But hey let's execute the Kenyan Ni!gger!

Anonymous said...

can we (and by we i mean you) block Anon 12:51 and 7:11.
It's the same person. He/She's offensive and is tainting this blog with his racist comments.

and @anon, just because you substitute a ! where the 'i' would otherwise go in a word, does not make it less of a slur. Your ignorance is blinding.

Anonymous said...

A long time ago Peter Hyatt posted an entry claiming the Occupy Wall Street movement was orchestrated by the Black Panthers

Peter Hyatt is the person who posts entries attacking the President, Democrats, and Liberals

He's the racist, not the people who call him out on his racism

Anonymous said...

Speaking out against tyranny is RACIST? NOT!

Please God let honest hearts, intelligence and decency reign in America again!?

The liberal press/political hacks are PRO's @ hating, distortions and controlling everything from media, the language, and throwing out intimation @ every opportunity.

REK said...

your health insurance company already does that sort of stuff on your behalf..

Anonymous said...

I read a news article today wherein a fifteen year old girl is home alone at her grandmothers' home when she becomes aware that someone is breaking into the back door. She grabs the phone and hides in a closet, quickly calling 911. Upon the dispatcher answering, the girl starts her panicked conversation by saying "I'm sorry, but...", etc.

Later in the conversation while she is begging for help, again she says to the dispatcher "I'm sorry".

I guess this blows holes in Peters' theory that those who say they're sorry on a 911 call are being deceptive, as this young lady certainly wasn't.

BostonLady said...

Anonymous REK said...

your health insurance company already does that sort of stuff on your behalf..

July 2, 2013 at 9:04 PM


That is correct. But, I have the option of obtaining a different insurance. I still have a choice. Once we are all on one universal plan run by the government, we won't have any choice and they will decide what is best for us.

That is frightening.

BostonLady said...

Anonymous said...

I read a news article today wherein a fifteen year old girl is home alone at her grandmothers' home when she becomes aware that someone is breaking into the back door. She grabs the phone and hides in a closet, quickly calling 911. Upon the dispatcher answering, the girl starts her panicked conversation by saying "I'm sorry, but...", etc.

Later in the conversation while she is begging for help, again she says to the dispatcher "I'm sorry".

I guess this blows holes in Peters' theory that those who say they're sorry on a 911 call are being deceptive, as this young lady certainly wasn't.

July 2, 2013 at 9:08 PM


You need to go back and study more on this. The young lady wasn't calling for help for someone else, correct? BIG difference.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 7:29, your ignorance is blinding too if you don't realize that this blog site has already been hacked. I doubt the N word makes much difference now. All these racist key words, comments, never ending verbal assaults of certain governmental/elected officials and vicious political back-stabbing attacks perked up curious ears and eyes a long time ago.

One would think everyone here would start to weigh their words a little more carefully.

The cat is already out of the bag. Besides, it doesn't matter what gets deleted. It's all on the hard drive anyway.

Vita said...

" Here's Your Sign"
Won't matter come Oct 1st 2013, who you say you are, they are going tell you, by their own determinations. Who you are, is of your records, this is dependent upon their findings. Everything you have ever done, have not done, will be a factor. Your own past even your old utility bills, now to be the determination of, an ID, your life. This is the category not quality of life we have chosen for you. We, as a citizen, have no say, evidently not. It's who we say you won't be? not will be. This is some scary shxt. Background checks, credit checks, right down to the color of your vehicle you drive.

My DAD showed me this video years before he died, and he said, Our future will be, as it's 1/2 way there, back in 07, he played it for my ears, he to say it's the truth, it's already here. Lord have Mercy on the good people of the USA.

The video he played, is Now, in place: http://youtu.be/RNJl9EEcsoE

Have to break this article in two posts -as It won't fit, where I type above it or not. It's doesn't fit in the box irregardless.

July 2, 2013 - Reuters

About 550,000 people in Oregon do not have health insurance, and Aaron Karjala is confident the state's new online insurance exchange will be able to accommodate them when enrollment under President Barack Obama's healthcare reform begins on October 1.

What Karjala, the chief information officer at "Cover Oregon," does worry about, however, is what will happen if the entire population of Oregon - 3.9 million - logs on that day "just to check it out," he said.
Or if millions of curious souls elsewhere, wondering if Oregon's insurance offerings are better than their states', log on, causing Cover Oregon to crash in a blur of spinning hourglasses and color wheels and an epidemic of frozen screens.

Multiply that by another 49 states and the District of Columbia, all of which will open health insurance exchanges under "Obamacare" that same day, and you get some idea of what could go publicly and disastrously wrong.

Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA), could fail for many reasons, including participation by too few of the uninsured and a shortage of doctors to treat those who do sign up. But because its core is government-run marketplaces selling health insurance online, the likeliest reason for failure at the opening bell is information technology snafus, say experts who are helping with the rollout.

Although IT is the single most expensive ingredient of the exchanges, with eight-figure contracts to build them, experts expect bugs, errors and crashes.

In April, Obama himself predicted "glitches and bumps" when the exchanges open for business.

"This is a 1.0 implementation," said Dan Maynard, president of Connecture, a software developer that is providing the shopping and enrollment functions for several states' insurance exchanges. "From an IT perspective, 1.0's come out with a lot of defects. Everyone is waiting for something to go wrong."

Two states that intended to build their own exchanges, Idaho and New Mexico, announced this spring that because of the tight timeline and daunting challenges they would have the federal government operate their IT systems.

"Nothing like this in IT has ever been done to this complexity or scale, and with a timeline that put it behind schedule almost before the ink was dry," said Rick Howard, research director at the technology advisory firm Gartner.


PT 2, next

Vita said...

Obamacare 1.0: States brace for Web barrage when reform goes live

part 2,


The potential for problems will begin as soon as would-be buyers log onto their state exchange. They'll enter their name, birth date, address and other identifying information. Then comes the first IT handoff: Is this person who she says she is?

To check that, credit bureau Experian will check the answers against its voluminous external databases, which include information from utility companies and banks on people's spending and other history, and generate questions. The customer will be asked which of several addresses he previously lived at, for example, whether his car has one of several proffered license plate numbers, and what color his old Volvo was.

It's similar to the system that verifies identity for accessing personal Social Security information. If someone gets a question wrong, he will be referred to Experian's help desk, and if that fails may be asked to submit documentation to prove he is who he claims to be.

The next step is determining if the customer is eligible for federal subsidies to pay for insurance. She is if she is a citizen and her income, which she will enter, is less than four times the federal poverty level. To verify this, the exchange pings the "federal data services hub," which is being built by Quality Software Services Inc under a $58 million contract with the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).

The query arrives at the hub, which does not actually store information, and is routed to online servers at the Internal Revenue Service for income verification and at the Department of Homeland Security for a citizenship check.

The answers must be returned in real time, before the would-be buyer loses patience and logs off. If the reported income doesn't match the IRS's records, the applicant may have to submit pay stubs.

These federal computer systems have never been connected before, so it's anyone's guess how well they'll communicate.

"The challenge for states," said Jinnifer Wattum, director of Eligibility and Exchange Solutions at Xerox's government healthcare unit, is that they have to build "the interfaces needed with the federal data services hub without knowing what this system will look like." That makes the task akin to making a key for a lock that doesn't exist yet.

CMS's contractors are working to finish the hub, but "much remains to be accomplished within a relatively short amount of time," concluded a report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the investigative arm of Congress, in June. CMS spokesman Brian Cook said the hub would be ready by September, and that the beta version had been tested for its ability to interact with the exchanges Oregon and Maryland are building.

The federal hub has to verify even more arcane data, such as whether the insurance offered to a buyer through his job is unaffordable, in which case he may qualify for federal subsidies, and whether the buyer is in prison, in which case she is exempt from the mandate to purchase insurance.

If someone's income qualifies him for Medicaid, or his children for the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), software has to divert him from the ACA exchange and into those systems. Many of the computers handling Medicaid and CHIP enrollment are, as IT people diplomatically put it, "legacy systems," meaning old, even decades old.

Many are mainframes, lacking the connectivity of cloud computing. They typically process eligibility requests in days, not seconds.

The legacy systems "rely on daily or weekly batch files to pass information back and forth," and often require follow-up phone calls, said Wattum of Xerox, which is working to configure Nevada's exchange so it can interface with the federal hub.
longer than I thought, pg 3 next

Vita said...


A "we'll call you" message is unacceptable under Obamacare, which has a "no wrong door" goal: A buyer must never come to a dead end. If she is diverted to Medicaid, for instance, she must not be required to resubmit information, let alone wait a week for an answer about whether she's now enrolled.

State IT systems must therefore "be interoperable and integrated with an exchange, Medicaid, and CHIP to allow consumers to easily switch from private insurance to Medicaid and CHIP," said an April report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the investigative arm of Congress.

To make all those systems communicate, the state exchanges must either develop entirely new systems or use application programming interfaces (APIs) that work with the legacy systems to exchange data in real time. APIs are programming instructions for accessing Web-based software applications.

GAO's Stan Czerwinski compares the necessary connectivity to adapters that let American electronics work with European outlets.

State officials told the GAO that verifying eligibility, enrolling buyers and interfacing with legacy systems are the most "onerous" aspects of developing their exchanges, "given the age and limited functionality of current state systems."

A key goal for exchange officials is keeping would-be buyers in the portal so they don't give up and use a state's ACA call center, which could quickly be swamped.

To avoid this, Oregon brought in potential users to test design prototypes, recorded what people did and where they had trouble, and tweaked the consumer interface to make it as user-friendly as possible, said Karjala.

"Even with that, if you have a family of four and you're eligible for a tax credit to offset your premium," he said, "you could be sitting at the computer for a long time."

What everyone hopes to avoid is a repeat of the early days of the Medicare prescription-drug program in 2006. Some seniors who tried to sign up for a plan were mistakenly enrolled in several, while others had the wrong premium amounts deducted from their Social Security checks.

Another challenge is capacity. Websites regularly crash when too many people try to access them.

"I had no choice but to be extremely conservative" in estimates of how many simultaneous users Cover Oregon has to be prepared for, Karjala said. "Building capacity is the only way to avoid the spinning hourglass or the site freezing, so in our performance testing we're seeing what happens if the whole U.S. population came to Cover Oregon to check it out."

This summer, state exchanges will test their ability to communicate with the federal data hub, whose security frameworks and connectivity protocols are still works in progress. But whether Obamacare 1.0 flies won't be known until the new health plans take effect on January 1. Robert Laszewski, president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates Inc, a consulting firm, said he wouldn't be surprised if some patients showing up at doctors' offices next year with Obamacare policies are told their insurers never heard of them.

The story was corrected to change the title in the sixth paragraph from chief executive to president


Anonymous said...

You only "know" the supposed contents of Snowden's leaks and their consequences because our admin told you!
THEY LIED TO EVERYONE, they spied on our allies, they listen in on embassies...
We were told they didnt spy on us and then when Carney (may have name wrong, will look up) was asked about it he said, "I told you THE LEAST UNTRUTHFUL VERSION." In other words, I LIED.
Why does that not eclipse Clinton's 'definition of is' as the most asanine and misleading statements ever.

I would hide Snowden in my closet. I want to sign the White House petition to force them to consider (they only have to look at it, and there are enough signatures) giving him clemency but I am afraid to. I am afraid of our government.

If you are not, you are blindly in love with the 'idea' of our country and the Constitution itself, not the bastardized version we have now.

The raising of student loans, Obama lied about education as an initiative, Congress lets loans double, students won't be able to afford them. Because of budget cuts, universities are raising their tuitions. Education has become elitist.

We are headed for a class system, a rigid class system, Marxist alienated labor. Do you people read? Did you read 1984? Do you research these topics and the statements surrounding them? Do you follow up? Do you read a varied array of news sources?

Peter is right. This Is Not America.

It reminds me of the song, "The Sound of Silence." Silence equals consent, and were it not for Snowden and Anonymous we'd all be ignorant. Now what do we do 'with the flash of a neon night, that split the night' and disturbed the sound of silence????

Anonymous said...

errata, 'flash of a neon Light,' not night.

Anonymous said...

He's right, but he overestimates our anger and underestimates our passivity. We just continue to believe what we want to believe, fear motivates us to shut the hell up. Just like the McCarthy era.

We never learn.

Anonymous said...

Bush manipulated us into thinking we had nothing to argue about. Like yellow cake uranium. When it wasnt there, why was everyone silent? The democrats were cowards. The CIA leak, no big deal.

Anonymous said...

Or he erroneously presumes the people he risked his life for are in this with him, that we want our freedoms back. He doesn't realize we are sheep. When the crisis passes abd the govenment distracts us with the next manufactured crisis or controversy (won't give our student's loans or help create jobs but let's feed the whole of Africa) no one will remember this or wonder if Snowden is being tortured in Gitmo.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 11:56, they want him dead. Just for revenge? No. Wake up.

bigmtn said...

Great post.

bigmtn said...

Well said!

Anonymous said...

Anon at 12:26, what a bunch of pretentious sanctimony!

Spare me! You have no idea what he knows or what he did.

Don't you dare speak for me. I am not part of this privacy-stealing system. Entitlement to spy on your allies makes the US Imperialists.

You are an ignorant, pretentious, flag waving sheep.

Anonymous said...

Just to give some encouragement to those waiting for justice on so many cases, justice can be served, even if it seems to be impossible.


Anonymous said...

Wt with tats all up in here.

~ABC said...

Snowden is a diversion. More than likely a deliberately staged diversion. Nothing he is saying is new information. If you'd like to know the purpose of this diversion, or any other sensationalist story of this type, just take a quick look at what issues are being passed through the government process at the time the story hits the wire. Something tells me the gun lobby is involved in this one!

Sella35 said...

@bostonlady - July 2, 2013 at 9:25 PM ... I am so grateful that I was born an American Indian! We get to opt out of his health care along with Amish, Menonnites and one other religious group... /go me for having a grandpa who fought blood degrees to the supreme court..now any american indian with 1/200th (+) amount of blood, who can prove it can opt out of Obama-Care:) I am 1/4 Indian...I think the 1/4 is from my feet and cheek bones!!

Anonymous said...

He is trying to humanise himself, making himself out to be trustworthy and someone with many friend/family/strangers supporting him, and making Obama out to be deceptive, unjust, outdated, bad and aggressive in contrast (good guy vs bad guy.)

He minimises his crimes, suggests he is only being punished as an example to others (those that come after him: he sees himself as an influential trail blazer) and attempts to normalise his crimes by associating himself with Manning and Drake (he places himself before Manning and Drake: thinks he is numero uno in the whistleblower’s club.)

He is very sensitive about his rights, claiming that his right to seek asylum has been taken away, although this is not strictly true as he still has the right to seek asylum but he will just find it very hard without a passport.

He is trying to reach out and engage with people, make himself relevant to the public, get them fired up on his behalf, before apathy sets in and he is forgotten.

I’d say he is starting to feel afraid and alone right now.

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Anonymous said...

Excellent post Anon @ 1:42, my thoughts exactly. I'd like to add that having his passport invalidated by the U.S. was entirely in order, and the first order of business.

What country wouldn't have confiscated the passport of some nut on the lam who is jetting around the world causing them problems? Of course they would! Why wouldn't the dummy stop to think that a country whose presidency he is trying to destroy wouldn't cancel his passport? That would be the first step to clipping his flapping wings.

I hope he gets stuck right there in Russia in their transition holding bay, broke, smelling like a skunk and wearing the same shirt until they decide to set his whiny butt outside on the tarmac. Which leads me to wonder; what IS he doing for money, food, etc?

clip his flapping wings said...

Hes à crafty wizzard whos been captured by His own spell.

clip his flapping wings said...

Plus he looks like he has à cancerous mole on His neck!!! Somebody warn him!!

Unknown said...

@ ABC :-)

Americans should listen to the rest of the world sometimes, they can seem pretty brainwashed... From out here it's irrelevant who seems to head the US govt and you're naive to believe it matters. Look at the companies that the previous administration's senators were on the board of and you'll see who really drives US policy! You'll see why and when US goes to war and what policy decisions are made. It's all about money :-( Iraq was very, very lucrative for the Bush contigent, both times round!

Monsanto and other US/global private companies patenting nature and even gene sequencing - discovered by European scientists in the public sector at public expense for the benefit of the ordinary citizen - so European hospitals now have to PAY greedy private businesses to do tests they invented, doubling them in price - is just one example.

I'm amazed some of you think it's ok to spy on your allies! I'm disappointed in Obama but really his hands are probably tied.

Anonymous said...

OMG The US govt has rescinded his passport! Without trial...innocent until proven guilty ... is that even constitutional? legal?

Sus said...

Look at Snowden's words. He is the one manipulating the public, probably with some help. As Snowden admitted, this was a planned attack on the NSA and the Obama administration. It is political, and Obama was winning when this statement was made.

In earlier statements, Snowden made it clear the NSA is "capable" of monitoring individual calls and online correspondence. The only thing that holds them back is "policy." Snowden tells us the NSA has a policy in place to prevent illegal spying on US citizens.

Now, the danger is a rogue breaking that policy. Who was the rogue? Why Snowden himself. He took the very data that is not to be released and released it around the world!

Last, Snowden, as a bottom of the pole analyst, took it upon himself to decide the NSA was monitoring people who should not be monitored. He is trying to set policy without having all the input. Even I know drugs and weapons are shipped into our nation from other nations we are not at war with. Two examples: We are holding a Russian weapons dealer...Russia mentioned exchanging him for Snowden. The largest Mexican cartel centers out of Chicago...mid US, all routes, trains, planes leading out.

China has stolen many of our trade secrets. The US already said we were trying to figure out how they were getting them. I am worried about what Snowden gave up to China...if he gave individual citizen's names...China is known to torture and disappear such dissidents.

Sus said...

I can agree on the Bush contingent and the Iraq wars, and Monsanto.

Spying on allies...not so much. I don't know the full story yet to jump on that bandwagon. I'm not taking the word of Snowden without knowing the back story.

~ABC said...

Yes @ Miss Translated. :-)

You don't hear the term War THEATER much anymore! ;-)

There are many factions that have the power to create diversions. And most of them always point a finger at the sitting President as the cause of the problem. Diversions work because people tend to be naive.

Anonymous said...

Somebody needs to start a class-action lawsuit against Snowden. I, FOR ONE, did not give him permission to trot his skinny a$$ off to some foreign country and hand over secret U.S. government data that jeopardizes MY safety.

Nic said...

What data "that jeopardizes" anyone's safety did Snowden hand over exactly? I think all he divulged was the existence of Prism. That's not handing over "secret US government data". All he's done is report the kind of information Prism is capturing and the means through which the administration is doing it. That's not the same thing. Else Kerry wouldn't be so lame in his address. jmo

Tania Cadogan said...

off topic

off topic

s Dylan Redwine's father a suspect in the boy's death? This July 3 KASA News article (among numerous others) reveals that Mark Redwine has met with investigators who have "follow up questions" regarding Dylan's case. There is also a new rumor surfacing via Facebook that Mark has packed up and left his home -- but if this is true, then why? Mark Redwine is under intense public scrutiny right now, and it's for good reason. He notoriously failed a polygraph test in the beginning of the investigation, and then he weaseled out of taking a second polygraph test when on an episode of Dr. Phil. He's also failed to participate in volunteer searches for Dylan, which attracted the wrath of picketing community members.

A Facebook page titled Calling Mark Redwine has nearly 3,000 followers, and their latest status accuses the boy's father of fleeing his home:

"A little birdie tells me that Mark serviced his vehicle, packed his bags and hit the road this morning. Hey wait a minute, I thought you wanted to find the rest of your son? Oh yeah.... Psych!"

Coldly worded, yes, but it seems that the moderator of this page has information that has not yet been revealed to the mainstream media -- so that means it's information that has not yet been clarified by anyone in the Redwine family (either side). It would be interesting to know if this is true, and if so, why!

Currently, investigators are trying to get to the bottom of Dylan's murder, They were back out around Middle Mountain with search dogs -- possibly looking for more of the the boy's remains, if it's even possible to locate them. One thing that stands out, is that the La Plata County Sheriff's spokesperson claims that the community "should not be alarmed that a killer is on the loose," indicating that this murder of Dylan Redwine is an isolated incident not likely to result in other deaths. This indicates that they have an idea of who the killer is, and if it's someone who isn't interested in other peoples' children, then who could it be?


Anonymous said...

Seems to me that a lot of now so-called great men were once traitors to something, someone, some country, somewhere. It's all a matter of perspective.

Vita said...

If anyone would like to listen participate in a BTR live show,

it is on now, just began- a great host, the show is open, and yes it is of what is right now in politics. For those who wish to be of " open mind" not a staunch set in cement because of what one in your past said = You are to be of a party. This show is not about being of a PARTY. It's about what is CRUCIAL RIGHT NOW - being an AMERICAN.

if that is too hard for you to swallow, then be done with you, off to the chambers.. it's coming.


Vita said...

An amazing show to listen to, this upon our Independence Day, TWO women to be of this radio show.

I share their link of their non profit - I so wish ppl could hear them as they speak. They are both Mom and Grandmother. They to sacrifice all and everything to get this going, as it's now soaring.
Two women - their org.

These two who stand for our Military Enlisted = where they remain in Iraq, or are in Afghanistan - or are home, or are to go and be within yet another tour - of Duty

Two gals who are straight up -
So cool, Bev and Carol
Kettering Ohio, two women that have added love and care to lives that they felt they didn't matter.


Lemon said...

Vive l'indépendance!

Anonymous said...


sidewalk super said...

Snowden is the purposed distraction that will keep any mention of the Benghazi murders, IRS obstructive lying by lois lerner, et al, examination of white house occupant's many many gross inadequacies on the job out from under the microscope.
So he hopes. And has planned.
The "drip, drip, drip" is becoming a steady flow.

Anonymous said...

Want to be a seen as a martyr rather than the traitor you are?

Blame it all on the black President.

Easy peasy.

Karen T said...

I am afraid that we are not many years off from being Nazi Germany & the eradication of certain people groups. Where & with whom will it start? I do not know but I am certain that since Christians are being label "haters" and "enemies of the State" that it won't be long before we are rounded up (Especially whites) into concentration camps & many are beaten, assaulted, raped & killed. I AM AFRAID.

This is NOT the America of my childhood.

Anonymous said...

America is ruled by a"half caste"who denies His White mother,a rascist homosexual who denies His sexuality,a freak of rascist nature whos leading the White Americans into a rancid den of sleaze and depravity.

Anonymous said...

Your" presidente"is now "set"

Anonymous said...

Puh-lease! Christians worried that they are being called haters is so amusing. Many if these very same "victims" are using Christianity not as a religion based on the teachings of Christ but as a tool to further the right wing agenda of the Republican Party. Amusingly, you are the sheep of the wealth wing of the GOP, who will never truly care about your agenda. Some purported Christians have clearly never made it to the New Testament- or they wouldn't be supporting war mongering policies costing billions of dollars all the while trashing the poor as culturally deficient and undeserving of the public's help. Seriously, get a grip and a printed moral code you can actually understand and follow. Many if you have spent over a generation trashing people who think differently from you. Now you want a pity party because some folks use harsh words to call you on it.

If freedom of speech were gone, Peter Hyatt, your butt would be in jail or in court or your little blog would be taken down by the government. It's not, you have your say. Quite myopic to use your uncensored blog to claim freedom of speech is dead.

My first anon post in this thread.

Anonymous said...