Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Isabel Celis: Cold Case

Statement Analysis indicated both Sergio and Becky Celis, parents of missing child, Isabel, for deception regarding their daughter's disappearance.

Their statements showed deception about what happened to Isabel, and the aftermath of their actions, and continue to do so.

Sergio Celis' 911 call, in particular, showed intent to deceive, sans his 'giggling', as seen in his change of language, according to the SCAN technique, the foundation of all Statement Analysis today.

Sergio Celis' language is also indicative of sexual abuse.

It is difficult to understand how the giggling, nervous Sergio Celis, with Child Protective history, bested police in the interview and interrogation process.

Very difficult.  This presupposes that there was no confession even though they pressured Sergio Celis by getting him to have no contact with his children.  This tactic appears to have failed.

There is no "who done it" here; just "what" can be proven in a court of law. There may be significant difference of opinion between police and prosecutors, as is sometimes the case.

Here is a news article meant to be read with a large pillar of salt:


"There is a startling revelation in the case of a missing Tucson girl that's gone all but cold.
Isabel Celis disappeared in April 2012.
Now, as Isabel's eighth birthday approaches, her parents say there is someone who they believe could help bring her home.
Isabel's father said a family member, whom he won't name, has refused to talk to the couple's private investigator.
"It's frustrating to run against a wall of this person has an attorney and they're not going to let them speak a word, protecting somebody that we feel has a lot of information to give," Sergio Celis said.
Sergio does not believe that person committed a crime but does have information of some kind.
"And if it has to be anonymous, so be it. We just want her home. We want our baby home. We want this nightmare over," said Becky Celis, Isabel's mother."

27 comments:

Tania Cadogan said...

Interesting he says person which conceals not only the identity but also the gender.

I wonder if the private detective has interviewed bith him and the mom (separately) or did they set rules and requirements prior to questioning such as abduction is the only possible crime, we are not involved so we cannot be questioned nor can any implication be made regarding our involvement(a la mccanns)

S + K Mum said...

Not speaking to your private detective Sergio but have they spoken to LE? I think you have. Yet still you are free to continue this farce. Poor Isabel.

Sella35 said...

"It's frustrating to run against a wall of this person has an attorney and they're not going to let them speak a word, protecting somebody that we feel has a lot of information to give," Sergio Celis said.

This person, then he says they're (presumably atty and said person) he adds in THEM SPEAK???...sounds like a bogus deal again.

Anonymous said...

If my daughter was abducted, and I thought someone knew something about what happened to my daughter, I would be specific about who I thought had this information and I'd be very public about it, not coy and keeping who ever it is secret. The public pressure would be on that person to tell whatever it is I thought they knew....

Sella35 said...

ps... he says A wall not the wall..not sure why I think it sounds strange...doesn't it??

Anonymous said...

Sella35, Sergio's sentence sounds clipped, and another thought continues the sentence. I mean, it would sound right if he said 'It's frustrating to run against a wall of BLANK. This person has an attorney and they're not going to let them speak a word, protecting somebody that we feel has a lot of information to give.'

Also, Sergio uses the pronoun we, instead of I. Who are we, does it include LE?

John Mc Gowan said...

"And if it has to be anonymous, so be it. We just want her home. We want our baby home. We want this nightmare over," said Becky Celis, Isabel's mother."

She uses the pronoun "we" rather than speak for herself. This is an
indicator that something is wrong and that there is distancing language in her short statement.

Jen said...

Everytime I see a clip of Sergio and Becky Celis their guilt is more obvious.

Sergio's fake 'crying' voice is laughable, (we miss u SOOOO much Isa..sniff...and we will never stop looking for you..sniff). And Becky can barely construct a sentence for all of her stuttering and self censoring, trying so HARD not to sound guilty. They both disgust me!

Phantom 'family member' my big toe...they know exactly what happened to their daughter. The 'person' they are trying to implicate probably hired an attorney to avoid being scapegoated by them.

Apple said...

S+K mum,
I agree that they are using the PI to get information on what others have told LE, a defense tactic.

Trishapatk said...

to Sella @ 10:10 and Anonymous 210:20,

People mix metaphors and fumble with their cliches frequently. I don't see this as a SA factor as much as fumbling ... didn't he probably mean to imply that they hit a wall or ran up against a wall or something along those lines. I don't see that statement as anything significant. I do think that Sergio is trying to deflect attention away from himself and his comments seem weak. If he were both an innocent man and one who was truly convinced that someone knew something about his daughters "disappearance" he'd be more than frustrated about hitting a wall.
I think Sergio is responsible for whatever happened and strongly suspect that Becky knows or was involved. I am still amazed that they managed to hide the evidence so well and avoid detection for so long. I don't know how people like them, Ron Cummings/ Misty Croslin, Terrri Horman and others manage to hide the bodies or the evidence so well. That is what is frustrating about these cases - that the perpetrators manage to pull off the crime and avoid prosecution. It's sickening. I find it somewhat helpful to believe that they will have to answer for their behavior to a higher power. We may all be sinners but killing a child is in a category of it's own and Jesus himself basically said so. I can provide references in scripture if necessary. ( It's something along the lines of how it's better to tie a millstone around your own neck than to hurt one of these little ones ... but that's a very rough paraphrase) As rough as my paraphrase may be I think we all feel that same higher degree of horror at the harm done to little children.

John Mc Gowan said...

OT..

Hannah Anderson Update:

Family no longer seeks kidnapped Calif. teen's DNA.

Snipped:

Robinson said the request was prompted by rumors that her brother fathered the children but that she doesn't think a test is needed.

he Anderson family said last week that DiMaggio didn't meet Brett and Christina Anderson until Christina was six months pregnant with Hannah and that Brett Anderson's DNA was used to identify the remains of 8-year-old Ethan.

Robinson said she had no explanation for her brother's alleged crimes and that she was "extremely disappointed" in the San Diego County Sheriff's Department's investigation.

"They should come back to us and explain what happened," she said. "They could come forward with evidence - evidence and facts instead of verbally coming out and saying he did it. Where's the proof?"

Robinson said she was also seeking return of evidence that was seized in the investigation, including letters that Hannah wrote to her brother.

San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore has called Hannah "a victim in every sense of the word." He has declined to discuss a possible motive and investigators haven't publicly addressed other aspects of the case, including why the family went to DiMaggio's home, how Christina and Ethan Anderson died and how Hannah was treated in captivity.

A spokeswoman for the sheriff's department, Jan Caldwell, said last week that authorities would not comment on the case because it is an open criminal investigation involving a minor and "for a myriad of legal reasons."

Robinson said she made a pact with her brother.

"We had made a promise to each other that we would stick around for each other, that we would stick around as long as God would allow us," she said.

Robinson said nothing seemed amiss with her brother when they spoke three days before firefighters found his home burning. When she saw him three weeks earlier, they stayed up late laughing and eating pasta.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57600397-504083/hannah-anderson-update-family-no-longer-seeks-kidnapped-calif-teens-dna/

Red Ryder said...

Sella35, yes the wall comment strode out to me also and reminded me of the writing Isabel hid inside her closet. "My dad is a bad man." Poor little girl.

Katprint said...

Off Topic: George Zimmerman's Wife Pleads Guilty To Perjury http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmermans-wife-pleads-guilty-perjury-142433955.html

excerpt from the link: "As part of the deal, Shellie Zimmerman wrote a letter of apology to Judge Kenneth Lester, who presided over last year's bail hearing.

"By lying under oath, I let my God down, I let your Honor and the court down, I let my family and friends down, and, most of all, I let myself down," Shellie Zimmerman wrote in the letter.

Shellie Zimmerman misled the court because she had been told by others to say "maybe that's not my money," her attorney, Kelly Sims, said after the hearing.

"But in her heart, you know, if it walks like a duck and looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck," Sims said. "She was calling from a phone. She was scared. Her husband was locked up. She didn't know what was going on. So, she stood by her man, like Tammy Wynette says. She's accepting responsibility."

Anonymous said...

OT:
Peter, does "and then I took off" have the same meaning in SA that "I left" does?

One of the suspect in WWII vet slaying said they were buying crack from victim. He wrote a letter to his mother and only a couple parts are in the news, including the below statement where he says he left.

"I took his wallet and another ounce of crack from his pockets,” the letter said, according to the court document. “He was unconscious so I made sure he was still breathing, and then I took off.

Tania Cadogan said...

off topic

Maj. Nidal Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who killed 13 people in 2009 in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, was sentenced to death Wednesday by a military jury after just two hours of deliberation.

Hasan, who offered little defense, sat motionless as the jury president read the verdict. Hasan has said he acted to protect Islamic insurgents abroad from American aggression and never denied being the gunman. In opening statements, he acknowledged to the jury that he pulled the trigger in a crowded waiting room where troops were getting final medical checkups before deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hasan had one final chance Wednesday to give a closing argument before his case went to the jury, but he declined -- continuing an absent defense that he has used since his trial began three weeks ago. The panel unanimously ruled that Hasan must forfeit all pay and allowances and be dismissed from the service.

The Army psychiatrist's behavior has only stoked suspicion that his ultimate goal is martyrdom, in the form of a death sentence that would allow him to fulfill what prosecutors have described as a "jihad duty" under his Islamic faith.

The lead prosecutor, Col. Mike Mulligan, told jurors Wednesday morning that history was full of instances of death in the name of religion. But he said it would be "wrong and unsupportive" to tie Hasan's actions to a wider cause

"You cannot offer what you don't own; you cannot give away what is not yours. He can never be a martyr because he has nothing to give…..Do not be misled; do not be confused; do not be fooled. He is not giving his life. We are taking his life. This is not his gift to God, it's his debt to society. He will not now and will not ever be a martyr. He is a criminal, a cold-blooded murderer. On 5 November he did not leave this earth, he remained to pay a price. To pay a debt. The debt he owes is his life," Mulligan said.

FORT HOOD GUNMAN MAY FACE LONG WAIT FOR MARTYRDOM

Mulligan focused on the victims, insisting that Hasan deserved to be executed for the attack at the Texas military base that also wounded more than 30 people.

A few minutes after Mulligan finished, Hasan said he had no closing statement.

Hasan has been representing himself during the trial, and his lack of defense has caused problems with the military defense attorneys ordered to help him.

But legal experts say he has a nearly unshakable right under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to represent himself. The military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, has repeatedly warned him about the danger of being his own attorney, and the three lawyers assigned to help him have tried to step in at least twice.

Osborn denied their latest request Tuesday, and twice used the same metaphor.

"Maj. Hasan is the captain of his own ship," she said.

Any lawyer trying to save Hasan would have a daunting task. In two days of sentencing, prosecutors called widows, parents and other loved ones of the people Hasan killed. They offered a picture of their overwhelming grief and struggle to move forward after his attack. At least one juror appeared visibly emotional during parts of testimony.

Osborn revealed some of what Hasan's standby attorneys wanted to tell jurors as she reviewed and denied their motion. Among that evidence includes his good behavior in custody before trial and his offer before trial to plead guilty -- which was rejected under military rules because prosecutors are seeking a death sentence.

But Hasan was dismissive of his standby attorneys' attempts. He repeatedly objected, and as one of them asked to argue the motion, he commented that he had an "overzealous defense counsel."

Hasan rested his case shortly after more than a dozen widows, mothers, fathers, children and other relatives of those killed testified about their lives since the attack. They talked of eerily quiet homes, lost futures, alcoholism and the unmatched fear of hearing a knock on the door.

Tania Cadogan said...

The same jurors who convicted Hasan last week had just two options: either agree unanimously that Hasan should die or watch the 42-year-old get an automatic sentence of life in prison with no chance of parole.

Hasan could become the first American soldier executed in more than half a century. But because the military justice system requires a lengthy appeals process, years or even decades could pass before he is put to death.

For nearly four years, the federal government has sought to execute Hasan, believing that any sentence short of a lethal injection would deny justice to the families of the dead and the survivors who had believed they were safe behind the gates of the Texas base.

And for just as long, Hasan has seemed content to go to the death chamber for his beliefs. He fired his own attorneys to represent himself, barely put up a defense during a three-week trial and made almost no effort to have his life spared.

Mulligan reminded the jury that Hasan was a trained doctor yet opened fire on defenseless comrades. He "only dealt death," the prosecutor said, so the only appropriate sentence is death.

He was never allowed to argue in front of the jury that the shooting was necessary to protect Islamic and Taliban leaders from American troops. During the trial, Hasan leaked documents to journalists that revealed him telling military mental health workers in 2010 that he could "still be a martyr" if executed.

When Hasan began shooting, the troops were standing in long lines to receive immunizations and doctors' clearance.
Thirteen people were killed and more than were 30 wounded. All but one of the dead were soldiers, including a pregnant private who curled on the floor and pleaded for her baby's life.

The attack ended only when Hasan was shot in the back by an officer responding to the shooting. Hasan is now paralyzed from the waist down and uses a wheelchair.

The military called nearly 90 witnesses at the trial and more during the sentencing phase. But Hasan rested his case without calling a single person to testify in his defense and made no closing argument. Even with his life at stake during the sentencing hearing, he made no attempt to question witnesses and gave no final statement to jurors.

Death sentences are rare in the military, which has just five other prisoners on death row. The cases trigger a long appeals process. And the president must give final authorization before any service member is executed. No American soldier has been executed since 1961.

Hasan spent weeks planning the Nov. 5, 2009, attack, including buying the handgun and videotaping a sales clerk showing him how to change the magazine.

He later plunked down $10 at a gun range outside Austin and asked for pointers on how to reload with speed and precision. An instructor said he told Hasan to practice while watching TV or sitting on his couch with the lights off.

When the time came, Hasan stuffed paper towels in the pockets of his cargo pants to muffle the rattling of extra ammo and avoid arousing suspicion. Soldiers testified that Hasan's rapid reloading made it all but impossible to stop him. Investigators recovered 146 shell casings in the medical building and dozens more outside, where Hasan shot at the backs of soldiers fleeing toward the parking lot.

In court, Hasan never played the role of an angry extremist. He didn't get agitated or raise his voice. He addressed the judge as "ma'am" and occasionally whispered "thank you" when prosecutors, in accordance with the rules of evidence, handed Hasan red pill bottles that rattled with bullet fragments removed from those who were shot.

The Associated Press contributed to this report

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/28/fort-hood-gunman-maj-nidal-hasan-sentenced-to-death/#ixzz2dITtCtPA

Trigger said...

Sergio Celis has endowed an unknown person with "suspect status" but can't name that unknown person.

Another rabbit trail that leads to nowhere.

Trigger said...

Hassan converted his victims to Islam, by "the sword" according to Islam teaching.

sidewalk super said...


sergio wants more donations

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting that John. I wonder if the sister is struggling with thoughts that Hannah might have killed her mother and brother?

Anonymous said...

The Celis' must be needing more donations, or Sergio needs more attention. Isa is buried in some hard hard dirt, under a rock (for a marker). Sergio is so full of crap.

Anonymous said...

Can you do a statement analysis on the adopted parents of missing teen, Erica Parsons?

Anonymous said...

"I took his wallet ...(and ANOTHER OUNCE OF CRACK!) from his pockets,” the letter said, according to the court document. “He was unconscious SO I MADE SURE he was still. breathing, ...and then I took off.
does "and then I took off" have the same meaning in SA that "I left" does?
It sounds like he's fleeing a crime scene.

Anonymous said...

"I took his wallet ...(and ANOTHER OUNCE OF CRACK!) from his pockets,” the letter said, according to the court document. “He was unconscious SO I MADE SURE he was still. breathing, ...and then I took off.

I took

I MADE SURE

I took off

his wallet

his pockets

He was unconscious

he was still

Sounds like a confession

BostonLady said...


Anonymous Jen said...

Everytime I see a clip of Sergio and Becky Celis their guilt is more obvious.

Sergio's fake 'crying' voice is laughable, (we miss u SOOOO much Isa..sniff...and we will never stop looking for you..sniff). And Becky can barely construct a sentence for all of her stuttering and self censoring, trying so HARD not to sound guilty. They both disgust me!

Phantom 'family member' my big toe...they know exactly what happened to their daughter. The 'person' they are trying to implicate probably hired an attorney to avoid being scapegoated by them.

August 28, 2013 at 12:46 PM

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I agree 100% !!! Sergio is full of crap. He shakes his head in the negative when he made his first statement to the public while saying "We miss you soooooooo much and will never stop looking for you". Body language, statements scream deception from this man.

Isabel said it best when she wrote in her closet "Daddy is a bad man".

Anonymous said...

Everytime I see a clip of Sergio and Becky Celis their guilt is more obvious.
Becky should confess

drdebo said...

It is obviously LE is not competent to investigate child murder cases. Until that is acknowledged and something done about it- these cases will continue to pile up and be unsolved.