Monday, March 17, 2014

Will Sidney Moorer Seek a Plea Bargain?


Wonder which Moorer was the instigator and leader?

It may be that Sidney Moorer, now separated and free from the dominance of the shrewd Tammy, will  turn against Tammy Moorer, and seek a plea bargain.

Any plea bargain would have to include the location of Heather's remains.

Those who commit violent crimes often articulate their desires beforehand.  Note the words of Tammy Moorer, and take another look at her rant against Heather, with the knowledge of murder as context.




Nov. 1, 2013
To Heather.. someone's about to get their a-- beat down.. your b--- is about to take his last breath... You can tell me where you are right now or I will find out another way... that way wont have a great turn out for you... I am giving you one last chance to answer before we meet in person.. only one.
To Heather.. I've been having Sidney followed since Jan. 2012.. it's best you call back and speak to me, save yourself. Hey ...... you ready to meet the MRS?
Heather responds...
I think you are a little obsessed with me. I'm nobody you need to worry about anymore.












Nov. 3, 2013
To Heather.. by the way dad no longer owns a phone.
The prosecutor also presented timeline of several phone calls and video that was captured the night/morning that Heather Elvis disappeared from Peachtree Boat Landing.
Here is the timeline that the prosecution presented of Dec. 18:
1:35 am.. phone call from pay phone by Sidney to Heather.. call is 4:53 minutes
 1:44 Heather calls (person unidentified) who is in Florida at the time. And says Sidney just called and is leaving Tammy. Heather appears upset because she had been trying to get her life back on track after the affair and the harassment by Tammy. Heather is still at her home when she makes this call. The call lasts 2:20 minutes.
 2:29 Heather attempts to call the number Sidney called from which is a pay phone. Several times it does not appear anyone answered.
 3:16 am Heather attempts to call Sidney's phone with no response.
 3:17 am .. Heather calls Sidney's phone and has a 4:15 minutes conversation with Sidney. Heather is at her home at this point. Sidney is at his home which is approx. 3 miles from the boat landing. After this conversation, Heather gets into her car and drives directly to Peachtree Boat Landing. Sidney also denies this conversation until police confront him with Heather's phone record and then he says he did talk to her but it was just to tell her to quit calling and leave them alone. 
3:38 am.. Heather attempts to call Sidney's phone. She has arrived at the boat landing at the time of this call. She attempts to call at 3:39, 3:39:46 and 3:41..
Her phone data ends at that point. 3:41 am.
3:36 am.. A private residence video surveillance captures a vehicle coming from the direction of Sidney's headed towards the boat landing. This camera is 1.7 miles from the Moorer's residence.
 3:39 am ... a business video surveillance a mile from the first camera closer to the landing captures this vehicle still proceeding in the direction of the boat landing.
 3:45 am.. same business video surveillance captures the vehicle coming from the boat landing headed towards the Moorer residence. The camera is approximately 1.2 miles from the landing.
 3:46 am the private residence video surveillance captures the vehicle headed from the boat landing to the Moorer residence.
In his decision to withhold bond, the Judge John said he did so because of the seriousness of the charges, the nature of case and the potential penalty that the defendants face.
The judge also said he was concerned with potential of violence whether caused by defendants or victim's side.  
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JerseyJane said...

Here is something I think some thought can be directed at.....
If I was 20yo, and I was putting behind falling in love/ or messing with some married man, and from the time me and her husband broke up, the wife was hot on my trail and spurting out her venom pretty daily. Then I go on a date with someone my age, we do silly fun stuff like we should be doing. I feel I got over the hump from the situation I was in... Then out of the blue, I get the husband saying HD is leaving his wife, I would have a heart attack.. I'm 20, I don't want him and stepkid redponsibilies, o my god what am I going to do, I love himenough to tell him he is making a mistake, he needs to stay with his wife.. I'm going to met him and explain he needs to stay in his life....
Im saying this cuz wasn't that Sidney and Tammy that said sidney called Heathef to only break it off, alot of times, killers use the victims words as there own cuz no victim to deny.. Plus sending Christian Dad that pic of her made her soooo proud,it was an innocent accomplishment from her past, she MAY have been on the path back to her beliefs and family...
I also think the pregnant angle, mainly from pic driving truck.. But that can be a blot 10 extra pounds from the stress of getting out of that relationship.. Heather went on that date not a hottie, she was earthy and prob thought wow this guy likes me for me no pressure, no sex, etc..... Dad interviews said she was getting on track( cosmo school), I think he said artist, shy, def a friend keeper.. She wouldn't be the first one to leave a friend....

Anonymous said...

I think that Tammy set the whole thing up. I think she made Sidney call Heather and tell her he was leaving her (Tammy), and to meet him. I think she probably didn't let on to Sidney just how horrible the outcome would be.

Another thought that is a little more "out there", possibly it was actually Tammy who called Heather, to tell her that Sidney was leaving her (for Heather). She could have really been using his phone. Sidney could have really been using the payphone, and really didn't have his phone.

Idk if he was originally in on the whole thing, I think Tammy was in charge. Not that it matters at this point, because he's obviously deeply in it now, I'm just not so sure it was his idea or even that he knew beforehand what the outcome would be.

One other thing, on the "out there" theory, maybe he really did tell Tammy he was leaving her (maybe because of Heatyer, maybe not).

GeekRad said...

JoAnn, how do you delet your own comments? That is something I may to know in the future:)

Anonymous said...

Good morning people, I've bern trying to catch up on on all the posts here, and yes let me echo (no pun intended) what somanyways said we're not the same person. I had jumped onher date did it theory, and I feel slightly bad about that, but I still do have the question WHY THAT NIGHT after Heather and SM's relationship had bern over for so long did SM and TM go after her?
Another question: Is it a certainty Sidney called from payphone? I know he admitted picking up the one cell phone call from Heather, but I have read nowhere about him admitting to the payphone.
I agree with people saying SM and TM have a sado-masochistic relationshic with it certainly sounding like she wears the boots and carries the whip in the relationship. Since he is s man, however and she is not literally able to overpower him, there is a very good chance Sidney enjoys being dominated. I noticed the threats in the texts she sent Heather were largely towards Sidney, and her calling Sidney Heather's bitch, it just really sounds like there is the "master-servant" thing going on w Tammy being the master but obviously Sidney is not being held against his will. I almost wondered if the texts were part of the S&M thing (Sidney's getting his punishment) but I do l think people may be misguided to think Sidney is literally being controlled. There are men who pay "dominatrixes" to treat them that way.
Does anyone have any thoughts about why did they pick that specific night (she hadnt talked to Sidney in months and was on a date) to go after Heather?

Sella35 said...

@Geekrad- in order to delete your own comment, you have to actually be signed in and not choose the Name/URL choice. You have to create an actual account with email, openid. Those of us with Blue Names can delete those with black font color can not.

Anonymous said...

So those are my primary questions:

Why THAT night did they do this horrible deed?

How do people think her car got there? Are there multiple ways to get to the Peachtree Landing? How come no video of her car going there during the time period? Did she go there from another route with no cameras? I am just asking bc I don't know.

Nic said...

GeekRad, if you have a gmail account and you're signed into it, choose the Google account option under "choose an identity". When I post under my gmail account there is a small trash can that appears (only visible to me) on the bottom right-hand corner of my post. If I click on it my post goes, "poof!" (deleted by author).

Anonymous said...

Jen Ow, I just read through the timeline where you broke it down that Heather would have most likely have just arrived home or been out of the date's call when the call from the payphone came in. What do you or others think about the timing of the call? How did the payphone caller (and I will give the benefit of doubt it was Sidney) know to call her precisely when she had just gotten home? This is something that troubles me. This payphone call would have been the 1st contact from Sidney (assuming it was him on the phone) and on your timeline it is placed as coming in right as she arrives home. How could the timing be so precise to call her right when she gets home? HOw does he know when she was getting home? This is what is causing me to suspect that the caller was either A) stalking her that night or B) was an individual (did they live in apartment complex? don't wanna bring it up again but the date would have known when she got home) who could see with their own two eyes she had just gotten home? Does anyone have any thoughts about the timing of the first phone call?

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 9:35

Why - something pushed Tammy over the edge. Whatever it was, Tammy was "done" with Heather. She had already confronted Heather once and there was a physical altercation (reported by Heather's brother via social media). If Heather didn't get the "message" the first time, I'm of the opinion that there were no second chances with Tammy and she would take the opportunity to 'snuff' her out. Snuff is also a euphemism for "destroy".

Prosecution didn't present anything that was redacted in the Missing Person police report. I'm thinking whatever it is that is being kept close to the vest was the catalyst for the wrath that befell Heather.

I'm still of the opinion she was pregnant/terminated her pregnancy and the drive-thru the report referred to was a pharmacy. It would be interested to know whose face was captured on video.

jmo

JerseyJane said...

One and 1/2 months is not a long time for Tsmmy's rage. Hell, she was just getting started! I think If Tammy could do it over again, she would have imprisoned Heather and tortured her brutally.. Some murders are planned as many believe. Their pre-meditation could of just happened on the ride over to meet with her. Or her death could have been spur of moment..The facts will tell or a confession but right now, murder is still murder.. Labels not needed, helpful but not needed. The steps or actions for it to be an accident do not exist, no 911, no body, moving the body, no confession of an accident.. And even then, it will be reckless depending on how she died..

Rachael said...

Whoa!
I'm sorry if this has already been posted, I haven't read the comments yet... but didn't the warrants say Heather was killed AT Peachtree Landing?

Based on the info from the cameras, someone was on the way to PTL from the direction of the Moorer residence at 3:39AM, approximately 1.2 miles from PTL, and was caught on tape heading back from PTL at 3:45, again 1.2 from from PTL.

So in six minutes, this person (be it TM or SM, or both) drove 2.4 miles AND killed Heather?

Even if they kidnapped her from there, and took her elsewhere, that was some fast work.

Rachael said...

Re: my post above.

Considering the possibility that Heather was waiting for Sidney to pick her up, perhaps to talk, this time frame makes sense, it's only in the context of her being killed at PTL or kidnapped from there that my mind is blown by the timing.

I need to go find those warrants again.

Nic said...

The "frantic" calls at PTL before the truck showed up. That bugs me.

anonymous101 said...

somanyways
you might have forgotten but your alter has used the phrase /so many ways/ consistently in the past when going under your usual name. im sure they are hard to keep track of but you probably should have used one of your others. marbles leaking in somanyways

Anonymous said...

Is there proof Sidney called from the payphone? I've read over the evidence presented to the judge and there is nothing about the payphone call being caught on camera (I do remember people had speculated maybe they had it on video previously). But this would have been incredibly damning evidence so I would certainly think it would have been presented to the judge had they had it.
If they don't have him on camera calling from payphone (and I don't believe they do), the only logical explanation for the timing of the payphone call is that the caller was waiting in a car or on foot NEAR her apartment complex to visually observe her being driven home, but that raises the question, how would this stalker know the vehicle she was in since the date was driving? Someone who knew what his car looked like and knew she was on a date with him that night? I believe I had read that the date was someone she knew from high school? So who would have known what this guy's car looked like?

The other thing is the parking of Heather's car sideways at Peachtree Landing (Terry had commented about this that it seemed that this was odd that the car was parked sideways.) and the locking of the car. This suggests the possibility that Heather did not drive herself there or park her car in that manner. It suggests that someone else drove the car there to "dump" it. I have read about cases where a killer who is on foot and invades the victim's home and kills the victim will then use the victim's car as a "get away" vehicle and dump it nearby and then walk where they intend to go, and I am wondering if that may have been what happened in this tragic situation.

Anonymous said...

anon @ 10:18, I am not somanyways. I don't know how I can prove that to you. I admit we think alike, but our writing styles are quite different. I am not her. I am not her "alter". I don't know what I can do to prove that. I guess you can just think what you want because I don't know what else I can say to prove it.

JerseyJane said...

Remember Anon Heather and Sidney could of did most of the relationship during nighttime hours.. He also cleaned establishments after hours( at nighttime) with his janitorial services and maintenance..I sure nighttime calling was not a biggy for a single young girl..

JerseyJane said...

Sit around for 5minutes, it's a long time. A shot to the head or spine in some grass. A lot of people don't bleed out from a shot.. A strangulation.. Tammy is 50lbs heavier then Sidney. They both could handle a 5ft girl.height and weights on arrest paperwork.
But yes 5 or 6 mins is amazing, but to the killers it was eternity.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if perhaps Sidney had been caught cheating before? I'm no expert, but her actions (that he appareently agreed to) such as handcuffing him to the bed at night and locking his phone seem to be more likely for someone who had thought through a punishment, should the behavior ever happen again. According to Tammy (and no, I don't believe her) she herself strayed in 2009 -- were these "punishments" used on her for her own infidelity?

Kosmo said...

2 comments... Some people commenting here are going way OUT there??!! I mean to even think about them being set up and someone else was using Heather's phone etc... I think it is plain to see what happened and of course we don't have all the evidence ...

And second.. I can't believe he wore a mickey mouse tie!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I was just going to ask if anyone could justify why he wore a Mickey Mouse tie? I would think his attorney would have put his foot down -- unless maybe the strategy is to make him seem much younger and childlike compared to the evil, plotting Tammy? Even then -- he is a grown man. In court. On murder charges. It seems to make a mockery of the situation.

Anonymous said...

Jerseyjane, sure I agree that their relationship was prob during nighttime (even though it had been over for a while) and I am sure it was not a big deal for her to get a nighttime call, but I am wondering about the precise timing of the call. According to Jen Ow's timeline (which I believe is accurate) the payphone call would have come in either immediately after she got into her apt or even as she was walking from the car to the apartment).
This strongly suggests that the caller (from the payphone) had visually seen the date's car driving her close to her home on her way to returning her home, or, for argument's sake, it certainly could have been someone AT the apartment complex if there is a payphone in the vicinity.
The timing of the call is too precise for it to be coincidence. The payphone caller waited UNTIL the date had left to call her, waited until she was alone.

The other issue of it being said that she was killed at Peachtree landing in what? under 6 minutes? It's unlikely. No sign of a struggle, no blood at scene or in Moorer car, or Heather's car, no murder weapon, no body, no defensive injuries on TM or SM. I really do not think she was killed there, when you think about how fast the killers would have had to have been (6 min they killed and disposed of her with no evidence left behind) combined with the fact that her car being parked sideways, locked, nothing within disturbed suggests someone else drove it there to "dump" it, and it suggests the murder occurred elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

Anon, the tie is very strange. I would never have allowed it if I were his attorney. It will be perceived as disrespectful, especially since there was no jury there, only a judge. I don't understand WHY he wore it!

Unknown said...

You keep stating that evidence doesn't exist because it was not presented at the BOND HEARING.

Again, in a bond hearing the Pros does not present evidence to prove guilt. That is done at the trial. The Pros presents evidence supporting their belief that the defendant is a danger to themselves or others, and evidence that proves the defendant a flight risk. They only reveal as much as they believe will convince the judge not to approve bond.

Judge John denied them bond based on the seriousness of their charges and the penalties they face, their social media threats and multiple pics of them wearing weapons, the 39 times LE has responded to their home since the investigation into Heather's disappearance began, TM texts about packing up her camper and moving to Canada, Belize, etc, and what the judge cited as the likelihood of danger to the Moorer's safety, and the communities safety if they were released into the community.

Anonymous said...

Nic wrote : "The "frantic" calls at PTL before the truck showed up. That bugs me."

It is strange. What do you make of them?

Anonymous said...

Jen, yes agreed we can't know the evidence. If they had Sidney on video making a payphone call you would DEFINITELY think they would have presented it, but there is no way to know for sure. I agree. I am just wondering how the payphone caller knew the exact minute (?) when she was dropped off and finally alone.

Anonymous said...

Nov. 1, 2013

To Heather.. someone's about to get their a-- beat down.. your b--- is about to take his last breath... You can tell me where you are right now or I will find out another way... that way wont have a great turn out for you... I am giving you one last chance to answer before we meet in person.. only one.

To Heather.. I've been having Sidney followed since Jan. 2012.. it's best you call back and speak to me, save yourself. Hey ...... you ready to meet the MRS?

Heather responds...
I think you are a little obsessed with me. I'm nobody you need to worry about anymore.

Nov. 3, 2013
To Heather.. by the way dad no longer owns a phone.

Heather is sent 2 days prior: someone's about to get their a-- beat down.. your b--- is about to take his last breath.. You can tell me where you are right now or I will find out another way

Nov 2nd, Heather is sent: for her awareness, you are not the only one? I've been having Sidney followed since Jan. 2012

Heather is sent 48 hours later, fear, guilt setting in? "by the way dad no longer owns a phone"

The activity of the phone of Moorer, texted to Heather, Tammy was behind the texts above? What if she wasn't the sole person with access to the Moorer phone. She to involve another within her break down. I do think yes she is behind the texts. She to parrot the texts to someone to text, as she wanted the threats sent. Her raging screaming, as another person was calmer, to send her inane rants.

She to monitor the cell phone, she to see the incoming texts from the past, her finding Heathers texts. TM texted she admitted was stalking Heather's social media sites. She Tammy to have an inside person aiding her with monitoring and gathering information?

In the house of bubble Disney unwrapped, who would witness their family (mother) falling apart? to believe the evil Queen that it was all one persons fault. This to be spoken day in and night out, every time Dad wasn't home on time for months. That it was a family affair that as it was texted, I have had Sidney followed since Jan 2012.

The texts typed and sent, that she was in such a state, she postal in the house of cards, she not able to cope. Then 48 hours later, a follow up text sent.

Heather is sent: by the way dad no longer owns a phone.

Her son
He to send on his own a fair warning to Heather? by the way Dad no longer owns a phone. He feeling the squeeze of his family himself, that he was the texting person. His mother standing over him.

The LE report of how the 3 kids were found, they in the master bedroom. The house to be a disaster. The eldest son not to stand up and protect his siblings. Kids in abusive households, the oldest to put themselves first to protect the younger. They were all found in the same area room of the house. Follow the leader.

Sidney Moorer, the 15yr old he became his mothers secret weapon? He to turn on his Dad too? or he to play both sides? that he was part of the set up, to gain Heather's attentions, his mother's affections.

As they the kids were not found upstairs, within their own rooms.

He instead of protecting his younger siblings, he to follow his mothers orders. She too had over him, she needed to monitor Sidney Jr, as the heat was coming down? He knows too much and possibly was involved with Heathers demise.

The timing that was of who at the pay phone, that a person could not be in two places at once. There is two Sidney Moorers', one Sr. one Jr. Did the son call Heather from the pay phone? he to be hysterical that his mother was threatening to do something?

Anonymous said...

Nov. 3, 2013
To Heather.. by the way dad no longer owns a phone.

Anon @ 11:41, you have a really interesting theory. I agree with you, the text does sound like it was sent from a kid, a child of the "Dad". To be honest, last night when I read it, linguistically I feel like it sounds like it is one of her siblings writing it. I only refer to my parents as "Mom" or "Dad" to my siblings. I didn't mention this because it doesn't make sense. But linguistically, this is what would make sense. But your theory is quite interesting. I back you 100 percent that that specific text I feel was not sent by Tammy, and if they did have a 3rd party helping them, it would better explain the phonecall as well as the entire tragic scenario.

Anonymous said...

Could Sidney have been involved with both Heather and her sister (horrible to suggest) but this would explain the text coming from the Moorer phone to Heather saying "by the way, Dad no longer owns a phone" like if Sidney was involved with both Heather and her sister and the sister was mad at Heather like telling her don't call (their Dad Terry) because he doesn't have a phone, he's mad at you or something? Like sibling rivalry type thing? I hate to suggest this, I am just befuddled linguistically what the "Dad" means.

Anonymous said...

One other thing about the texts from the Moorer phone to comment on the original theory posted by anon 11:41, the 1st 2 texts contain frequent ellipses (.....). I'm going on memory, but I dont think TM used elipses in her facebook post.

Anonymous said...

Just looked at her fb post. No ellipses and she uses capitalization.

Rachael said...

I'm looking at the photos from yesterday, and noticed that the text from TM to Heather says

'You can tell me WHO (not where) you are right now or I will find out another way...'

http://www.thestate.com/2014/03/17/3332389/moorers-bond-denied.html

Photo #20

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 11:35

Initially when I read the timeline presented at the bond hearing, I thought it may have been her calling 911. But the prosecutors stated she was calling Sidney's number. So I though, she was impatient wondering where he was. But, maybe, someone was there waiting for her and they surprised her before the truck showed up.

Also regarding the question about "how" Sidney would know exactly when she would be home.

That is an *excellent* observation. Heather wasn't at work/following a schedule/due home at a specific time. She was on a date. Technically, she could have gotten home at any hour.

Tammy had been surveilling Sidney since January 2012. Yesterday, I read somewhere (? ) there is so much accumulated already -- that LE was astounded about how much they found in the Moorer's residence ABOUT the Elvises.

If what I read was true, then "they" were following/stalking Heather and whomever was hired to follow her would have been the one to tip off Sidney to call. If this is the case, then then Heather was set-up and what happened to her was premeditated.

jmo

Nic said...

Anon @ 11:35, sorry I forgot to say that maybe Heather was frantically calling Sidney for help as he hadn't arrived yet and whomever she was confronted by,first, she was in fear of.

Nic said...

About the mattress in the closet.

That discovery, plus what we're learning about TM's personality affliction, is beginning to sound like whomever slept on that mattress spent a lot of time locked in there. Either that, or the kid felt so insecure and vulnerable, that's where they chose to hide.

Unknown said...

Anon

You're KILLING me, lol

First, please don't take this as harsh, I am saying this to hopefully offer you some perspective. So far on just this thread, your theory has changed about 10 times, it's been: TE, the date x 3, a stranger during the nonexistant 2hr lull, a neighbor, a frame up,(by someone who somehow managed to orchestrate calls between the Heather and the Moorers AND use their truck to frame them) , Sidney's gay, the son is involved, and now MORGAN is involved with Sidney, and somehow texting Heather from Sidney/Tammy's phone about THEIR dad!?!

I think we all enjoy sharing ideas or discussing theories, and answering questions. But, in this case, when your questions are answered, and your theory is exhausted, you just propose ANOTHER baseless theory, and ask everyone to indulge you more. It seems like you just want to be oppositional, and ignore the ACTUAL evidence presented in court.

I hope you will take this in the spirit of kindness, and consider using your gifts to consider and propose theories based on the evidence. Have a great day, I'm headed to the mall for some retail therapy, to end this cabin fever after being iced in for 2 days!

Unknown said...

**Also Anon

You can bet your bottom dollar the Pros. can prove EVERYTHING they presented to the judge in the hearing. If they dared present anything they had no proof of, they would face being disbarred for Prosecutorial Misconduct. With this in mind, please go back and read the timeline in the article Peter posted and BELIEVE IT, until presented with clear EVIDENCE that there is a reason to doubt it.

This is exactly how the jurors will be asked to weigh the evidence presented at trial. The Pros will present their evidence, the defense will attempt to refute it, and the jurors will decide if the burden of proof has been met, or if other REASONABLE explainations were presented for consideration.

GeekRad said...

Thanks Sella35

Unknown said...

The elipses MAY have been included by the prosecutor when transcribing the text for public presentation (to conceal a portion of the text they do not yet wish to make public), OR the elipses may have been added by the reporter relaying the content of the text from the courtroom.

I don't think we can draw too many conclusions until we can see the actual texts.

*(The Discovery docs would have the exact content, and the answers to many of your questions about 'how do they know' this or that, however the court ruled against releasing them yesterday).

This Pros is smart. They could crucify the Moorer's in the media, but that would give the defense ripe grounds for a change of venue. The Pros want to keep the case right where it happened, and they should. Their community has been rocked by the Moorer's actions, and they deserve the chance to decide their guilt or innocence.

I really gotta go, my little guy is losing his mind waiting on me to take him to the arcade, lol

Anonymous said...

Jen, lol! But I did not come up with all those theories! Maybe 3 or 4. :)

You gotta admit with the texts, it's pretty weird for Tammy to call Sidney "Dad" to his mistress. I'm not ready to believe she sent that specific one. The ellipses in the others, you can clearly see they are not there to block out part of the text.
And for all we know Sidney could be gay or bi! Wasnt he a model? (no disrespect meant to gay people)
I believe TM and SM didnt do it alone.
The case is going to get thrown out regardless. Unfortunately. Unless they pull the case together a little better.
2 venomous threats texted to Heather mos before she disappeared threatening to best up Sidney "the bitch" mos before Heather disappeared and then no further contact till the payphone caller isnt going to convict them. They gotta tie up the loose ends, and there are MANY.

Unknown said...

This article states the Pros outlined DOZENS of harrasing texts and phone calls from Tammy Moorer to Heather. Also, another article on the FB page states that there was phone communications to Heather from Tammy/Sidney on Dec 17 as well as Dec 18. The 17th communications being the first contact from Moorers to Heather in several weeks. (*the Moorers were on vaca).

A snippet:

"As investigators began to dig into the case, they learned that Elvis and Sidney Moorer had begun a relationship in June 2013 and ended it in October. But when Tammy Moorer found out about the affair she began to harass the young woman, Donna Elder, a 15th Circuit senior solicitor, told the judge. "Heather was in fact fearful of Tammy during this time period,” Elder said.

Once, when Sidney Moorer was making a call to a manager at Tilted Kilt, a bar where Elvis worked, Tammy Moorer took the phone and told the manager Elvis should be fired, calling her several derogatory names. After learning of the affair, Tammy Moorer handcuffed her husband to the bed at night, a condition he agreed to for a six-month probationary period, Elder said.

Elder also told John about dozens of telephone calls and text messages Tammy Moorer sent to Heather Elvis, and outlined threatening social media posts were made during the case.

After examining video surveillance from a business and private home, police saw that a pickup truck that they matched to one owned by the Moorers had gone to the boat landing the night Elvis was last heard from. The Moorers live about three miles from the boat landing."

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/03/17/4102097/judge-denies-moorers-bond-on-murder.html

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Moorer-Murder-Trial/588103037934172

Anonymous said...

Jen Thank you for this additional info. Clearly Tammy was enraged about Sidney cheating. The part about him being handcuffed to the bed for 6 mos, it's a little hard to take that seriously for obvious reasons! I dont doubt she had venom towards Heather, I dont doubt she is one mean lady.
The part about the Moorer truck being caught on camera, if that is the case, they still dont have conclusive evidence. But I question in the darkness of night how the cameras could have captured the truck's image especially since it was a rural road with prob no street lights. Sure the camera could have gotten head lights.
I hope they are able to prove the case against TM and SM. I still want to know how the payphone caller knew Heather had JUST arrived home to call her.

JerseyJane said...

Camera evidence gets enhanced to show plates, unique featurs of vehicle, maybe even a Mickey Mouse sticker. lol You can trust the LE knows and uses all technology...

somanyways said...

anonymous101 - huh?

I am somanyways, I don't know of anybody else using my name. if something was posted as somany ways it was probable me, I've been postin on here since amanda knox story. much more often i post as anonymous -- but when I use a name only name i use is somanyways and as far as I know i'm the only one who uses it.

somanyways said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
anon @ 10:18, I am not somanyways. I don't know how I can prove that to you. I admit we think alike, but our writing styles are quite different. I am not her. I am not her "alter". I don't know what I can do to prove that. I guess you can just think what you want because I don't know what else I can say to prove it.

March 18, 2014 at 10:23 AM

agreed, it's a fine theory but it's just not true. I am not her - ( I think she's a her :) & I also think there are a number of people posting as anonymous -- not just the two of us.

we are different people.

somanyways said...

also I - I knw peter posted that somebody was posting as many people and I'm fairly sure he was refferingto me. but there's no way he would know this . I suspect he just suspected it so he tried to infer he had evidence, if he was reffering to me doing it - there's no possible evidence for it because it's not the case,. if he was reffering to somewbody else -- then I wouldn't know - but I actually still think it wouldn't be apparent in this blog format.

just Jen said...

Anonymous, for being in the movie biz, you are not overly tech savvy. Lol. In my opinion, it would not be hard to track Heather ' s cell phone. I find that more plausible than secret spies stalking Heather.

Anonymous said...

Jen, I'm the one who asked how the caller knew she had just got home. (I'm not somanyways). I considered they could have been tracking her cell. Who would have been able to track her cell though? Not Tammy or Sidney!
Somanyways is also correct that some "regulars" have been posting under anon in this thread. I'm not giving away who they are as they want to be anon, but I think it's funny if others cant recognize their style lol.

somanyways said...

Just Jen -- you are absolutely rt I am not tech savvy at all!!!!


I have all kids of other weaknesses too.

Anonymous said...

oh - you were talking to the other anon. my mistake,

i'm not tech savvie either tho, apparently we have that in common also.

somanyways said...

meant to click this.

somanyways said...

maybe we should stop trying to make it clear we are all different people and just go with it - and tell them they are right that we are the same person. and just make everything super confusing. whaoooooaaa!

somanyways said...

I'm going to stick with somanyway to hel with confusing - until I start getting deleated again.

somanyways said...

I meant help with confusion -- as in alleviate it, typing unfortunately is also one of my weakness along w/ tech skills

Anonymous said...

I keep going back to the timeline, and find this chilling:

3:39am- Moorer veh. still proceeding in direction of boat landing, still a mile away.

3:45am-same veh. coming from boat landing headed towards the Moorer residence.

Am I to understand that Heather was killed, her body disposed of, and the Moorers cleaning up evidence left behind, all within 5 minutes? Is this possible, or am I missing something?

Unknown said...

Yes Violet Baby, it is so frustrating!

This blog has basically been highjacked by these baseless fantasy theories.

Anonymous said...

Motive, means, opportunity. Guilty as charged.

VioletBaby said...

This comment thread has gotten so nutty...thanks Jen Ow for continuing to bring some common sense to it lol

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