Friday, April 17, 2015

Statement Analysis: PK Subban

Was it intentional?  Did he first threaten it, and then follow through?

Statement Analysis finds out.

Mark Stone received a wrist fracture after PK Subban slashed at him with his stick.  The video is as follows.

Then, we will look at the statements to learn the truth.

Mark Stone has right wrist fracture after getting slashed by P.K. Subban

MONTREAL -- The Ottawa Senators say forward Mark Stone has suffered a microfracture of his right wrist, and his status is unknown for the rest of the Senators' first-round playoff series with Montreal.
Subban received a five-minute major and a game misconduct. Subban was ejected from Game 1 but won't face any further punishment, NHL disciplinarian Stephane Quintal told's Pierre LeBrun on Thursday.
Senators general manager Bryan Murray spoke with Quintal on Thursday and said he hopes Quintal will rethink his decision on Subban, which was made before the news on Stone's injury was announced. 

"[Stone] came back as a courageous guy after being hurt," Murray said Thursday. "The disturbing part from our point of view is that there was a threat made before by Subban to Stone.

"There were two attempts on faceoffs to slash him, one connected. Then he two-handed him across the wrist in front of the net. [Stone] has been one of the top five players in the league the last two months of the year. It's a huge loss.
"I thought the officials made the right call on the ice, but I thought also, after knowing the extent of the injury, that something further would be considered."

Asked if Stone was ruled out of playing in Game 2 on Friday night, Murray said: "I would assume. I think the trainers have worked on him and Mark is willing to take shots or whatever it is, but he has no mobility at this point at all."

Stone fell to the ice after Subban's slash and then skated off to the dressing room.
He returned to the game roughly 10 minutes after the incident, left again early in the third period, then returned midway through the third.
After Game 1 on Wednesday night, Stone felt Subban's chop warranted additional discipline.

"I mean, I do, yeah, of course," Stone said. "There was some intent there. That's up to the league. Obviously it was a pretty big hack. It looked like he wanted to hurt me."

The major and game misconduct to Subban fell under Rule 61.4 of the NHL rulebook dealing with match penalties.

It says: "The referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by slashing."

For his part, Subban said he was disappointed he let his teammates down by taking the penalty and getting ejected, but he denied it was premeditated.

Let's see if his denial is reliable:

"I didn't even look to see where I was going to slash him. I just kind of came down on him. I try to play hard in front of the net; obviously, it's something that I can't do, I don't want to take that penalty.
As far as targeting anybody, I'm not out there doing that. If anything, I feel like a lot of times I'm the target, not targeting guys. It's just a tough play for me."

His words indicate that he intended to slash, only that he did not look to see where it would land.  
Next, he moves to present tense language to avoid a reliable denial about targeting the player.  

It was then revealed that Subban reportedly had threatened Stone before the slash.  When confronted with this allegation, he said,

"I've never threatened anyone out there; I don't think I would.  First of all, I'm not the toughest guy out there without my gloves on.  I'm not really going out there looking for fights or anything like that.  I just try to play the game hard between whistles. Obviously it's frustrating when you get kicked out of the game but if I was to comment on the officiating, the ref made the right call. When you see a player down on the ice rolling around like that, there's one call to be made and he made the right call."

Never is not acceptable replacement for "did not" especially since it is a specific time period in question.
Next, he only "thinks" it is something he would not do; allowing for him, or others to "think" otherwise. 

His statements reveal that he threatened a player, targeted and followed through on a player, deliberately. 

The NHL decided not to suspend him.  

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Tania Cadogan said...

I noticed immediately after he slashed the victim he did a little jump of victory and a fist pump.

He was happy and excited he had succeeded in doing what he did and it leaked out visually.

He then backtracked on the premeditation knowing it meant big trouble and a probable suspension.

Not only is he unreliable in his denial he also leaked physically his emotion when he did it.

He will do it again since he got off so lightly with what was a premeditated assault on another player, the consequences next time could be far worse for the victim perhaps even to ending their career.

Yes Hockey is a high adrenaline physical game.
There will be hard tackles, physical assaults and occasionally a game of ice hockey breaking out on the rink :) , However, when such an assault is telegraphed in advance via a threat then the offending player must be kicked out the game if they are allowed to play and then commit said assault.

If someone makes a threat to another player then they must be benched for that game.
This will prevent said assault occurring, preventing the victim from being deliberately harmed perhaps saving their career and also saving the threatening player from what could be a career ending move as well as possible criminal charges.

There needs to be consistency in how the rules are applied regardless of league, age, skill, length of career or celebrity.

If you deliberately make a threat to target a specific player then you will know there will be consequences.

Rules are there for a reason.

Ice hockey is a dangerous game, sharp blades, hard speeding pucks, hockey sticks and hard and fast players racing round the rink all of which can cause some serious, even to life threatening damage to an unwary player.

If you apply the rules at grass roots level and enforce them consistently throughout the various leagues and levels then by the time a player reaches the tops levels, fair play will be ingrained in their psyche and you will get a good, cleanish game (hardly any bloodshed, black eyes or broken bones.)

if those at grassroots level see top players getting away with a slap of the proverbial wrist they will play the way they saw their idols play, down and dirty, and they will carry that ingrained behavior all the way through their career (assuming they ever get that far)

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