Thursday, August 20, 2015

Crystal Rogers: Parents Fight for Grandparent Visitation

Crystal Rogers, mother of 5, went missing  on July 3rd of this year, and her fiancé, Brooks Houck, went on the Nancy Grace Show.

On the show, he did not issue a reliable denial in her disappearance and gave signals of deception, via withholding information directly related to Crystal's disappearance.

You may read the analysis of the interview HERE.

Crystal's parents, The Ballards now have custody of the four other children, but the child Crystal had with Houcks, has been denied visitation by his father, as the family suspects Houck in her disappearance.  They report that this has been difficult on the other children who have lost their mother, and are denied the ability to see their little brother, Eli.

Sherry Ballard has taken Houck to court with the next hearing scheduled for September 10th.

There have been no news reports into the investigation of Crystal's disappearance.


Anonymous said...

Dirty, rotten low-down POS. He robbed them of their daughter, and her children their mother; now robs them of their baby grandson, and sibling to her other children, HER child. There is just no end of the trouble and strife some people bring into the lives of others.

The investigation into Crystals' murder doesn't appear to be bringing any results either. It would appear that LE isn't even trying. I guess this is the fruits of their labors, that is, the Houck family political connections? Well, guess what? Nothing is forever, and neither are they.

Child Advocate said...

I hope the Ballard's win their case. The grandparents and other children deserve to see Eli. It has to be mind numbing not to know where Crystal is, not seeing Eli compounds their pain.

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trustmeigetit said...

Add just adds to his guilt. If my husband was missing and his family thought I was involved I would not shut them out. I would talk to them. I would want it resolved.

But then I would not be noted for deception as I would be out of my mind trying to find him.

This man needs to be in jail and the baby needs to go to Crystals parents. His parents are likely just as bad if the are standing by him despite the fact he's not dong anything to help find her!

Juliet said...

Another sad aspect of all this is that Eli may have witnessed something his father is worried he will either recount, if he is of an age, or otherwise communicate through re-enactment while at play. The little boy should not be in his sole custody while his mother is missing and unaccounted for, but if the father is not a suspect, what can be done about that? If it's allowed for the grandparents to file for joint custody, they should try to do that as soon as possible after they (it is to be hoped) win this case Their grandson should be with his siblings.and have something like his family life back, and the father should be given visitation rights. Does he not consider that Crystal would want all the children to be together in her absence? If I were one of the grandparents, I would be worried that Eli had seen something, and as a result might be living in fear of his father, even afraid that some harm might befall him. I would suspect the father of being involved in Crystal's disappearance, because if he were not, he should welcome the opportunity for Eli to at least spend time with his siblings and grandparents, regardless of what type of relationship he himself is currently able to have with any of them. Allowing them all each other should have been a priority since the earliest days of Crystal's disappearance. He is not showing appropriate concern for his son's emotional well-being - the little boy must be missing his mother, and feel so confused to no longer have her, his siblings, or his grandparents, in his life. The situation might suggest that he has little interest in maintaining contact with his step-children, or in either supporting, or seeking support, from Crystal's parents, even though his wife and their daughter is missing. Surely he should want to spend at least some time with them all, for mutual comfort and support. If he's not very interested in his step-children, that must have been a cause of tension in the home.

~mj said...

Akin to the Susan Cox/Josh Powell debacle. That certainly went the worst possible way it could have.

Bethany said...

Mj~ that's so true.

You would think that if they haven't completely cleared the parent/parents, that the children shouldn't be put in that situation, to have to stay with that parent esp after what happened with Josh Powell and the horrible visitation that couldn't have gone more wrong.

I am wondering when the police are going to start prosecuting these cases when children just "go missing", never to be found, and feel the parents are strong suspects but don't feel that they can build a strong enough case. I fear if they don't start doing SOMETHING this is just going to keep happening. It is a sad world when you have to have more responsibility given when owning guns, or a car, but not taking care of your children.

John Mc Gowan said...

Peter, could you take a look at this please.


I have highlighted in bold what stands out to me. I am in no way saying this never happened, i'm not qualified enough to conclude veracity or possible deception.

Two more women accuse Cosby

New York (AFP) - Two more women stepped out of the shadows Thursday to join the growing list of dozens who have accused disgraced TV star Bill Cosby of sexual assault in the 1970s.

They bring to around 50 the number of women who claim abuse at the hands of the pioneering African-American comedian who played a beloved family doctor on hit 1980s sitcom "The Cosby Show."

A former air stewardess, who did not give her real name, fought back tears to say Cosby drugged and assaulted her after taking her out for dinner and ordering a plate of lamb eyeballs.

"I will never forget it. A whole platter of eyeballs looking at me," the striking woman with cropped hair told a news conference at a private members club in New York.

They met on an American Airlines flight from New York to Los Angeles when she asked Cosby for an autograph.

Cosby insisted she drink sake, the woman said, then she slipped into a "trancelike state" similar to "being under anesthesia."

She recalled finding herself in Cosby's hotel room.

"I could barely stand up and I was either going to pass out or get very sick," she said.

"He made me kneel down. I don't want to repeat what happened next. All I know is that is was the most horrifying thing that could happen to any young woman."

Given this is up close and personal, very personal and doesn't happen to anyone (universal) is the distancing language appropriate given the passage of time?.

She said she next remembers vomiting in his Rolls Royce.

"I apologized and the driver said I wasn't the first," said the woman, who used the pseudonym Elizabeth.

She was so ill that the captain made her take oxygen in the cockpit on the flight back to New York the next day.

- 'It was not consensual' -

Charlotte Fox said she was working as an extra on a film set when she met Cosby, who invited her out for the evening as part of a group that ended up at the Playboy Mansion.

"We ate and drank. I became ill," she said. Fox said she remembers being in bed naked.

"I was incapacitated and couldn't say no. He engaged in sexual activity with me. It was not consensual. I was afraid to call out. He left. I didn't know where I was," she said.

He engaged in sexual activity with me. It was not consensual.


John Mc Gowan said...


Note here she doesn't mention his name but uses the pronoun "he" (distance) which i believe is correct given the circumstances?.

"Sexual activity"

What is "sexual activity" in her "personal subjective dictionary"?. Is her language to soft given the allegations?.

"He engaged in sexual activity with me"

"He" and "me" are as far apart as possible. Along with the word "with" shows distance. Again, i believe this is appropriate given the circumstances.

I was afraid to call out. He left

This is where i would appreciate your input.

I was reading up on the use of the word "left" in an article on false rape allegations, or in this case "sexual activity" and found this.

"I have analyzed more than a few statements of rape that were false allegations. It happens and we often look for the word "left" to enter the language of the false accuser after the alleged assault as sometimes it points to the reason why the allegation was made. The alleged perpetrator's "leaving" is very sensitive, and in context, is rarely associated with "rushing, time, traffic, etc" that is our norm. In each of the statements where I concluded false allegation of rape, an admission (or confession) was obtained. In public statements analyzed, prosecutors have dropped the cases. The overall conclusion of the analysis was not "iffy" but deception was readily seen, even when the accuser had a history of childhood sexual abuse. This perseveration also came through in the language. Only once did a subject deny childhood sexual abuse, to only later admit it. " PH

I would love to read your thought on this.


Attorney Gloria Allred is representing the women and other alleged victims.

In a small victory for the lawyer, a Los Angeles Supreme Court judge recently ordered the 78-year-old actor to testify under oath on October 9 in response to accusations from a woman who said he drugged and sexually abused her when she was a minor.

Cosby has gone from megastar into a pariah over allegations of sexual misconduct spanning four decades.

In a deposition in 2005, Cosby admitted that he used sedatives to lure at least one woman into having sex.

Neither of the new women to come forward can file lawsuits because of the statute of limitations.

John Mc Gowan said...

OT Update:

Dylan Redwine's father, Mark Redwine, countersues Elaine Redwine over her allegations

John Mc Gowan said...
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John Mc Gowan said...

My apologies for the disjointed analysis, and the robot posting.

Re: Cosby

"We ate and drank. I became ill," she said. Fox said she remembers being in bed naked.

"We ate and drank".

We shows unity before the event which i believe is appropriate, again. It is after the event that "we" should not enter her language as their should not be unity, in this case it does not.

"I was incapacitated and couldn't say no.

Dropped pronoun.

It is more the words "he left" that stuck out, that i focused on.

Unknown said...

I was thinking the same thing mj.

Anonymous said...

Peter, if you get the chance could you analyze this. Shaun King is prominent in the Black Lives Matter group and has been called out as a Rachel Dolezal. This is his response.

~mj said...

If would-be murderers or disappearers have learned nothing else from the likes of Josh Powell, Justin Dipstick, and Terri Horman.... One things is for sure they've learned... Remain silent and you will remain free.

It disgusts me.

I would rather see the Casey Anthony circus than no charges. As p.o.'d as it made me that she got off, at the very least she had to suffer through the trial and public humiliation. Not true of these other monsters. Sadly, it looks like poor Eli's dad has joined the monster's club.

Tania Cadogan said...

off topic

Amber Peat's disappearance tugged hearts across Britain. Then, after three agonising days, she was found hanged. A Mail investigation reveals the troubling story behind the death of a 'modern Cinderella'

Amber Peat went missing from her home following a family argument
The 13-year-old was found hanged three days later in a nearby hedgerow
Her stepfather Danny Peat has now been removed from family home
Neighbours say Amber led a Cinderella existence continually doing chores

Amber Peat was small for her age — just 4ft tall — but, like many little girls, she dreamt of being a model when she grew up.

At her grandmother’s bungalow, she loved to paint her nails, put on make-up and adopt diva poses for an imaginary camera.

‘Do you think I’m beautiful, Nanna?’ she would ask, tossing her head back coquettishly.

Amber was not only unusually pretty, she was also bright. ‘Academically gifted’ are the words her headmaster used to describe her. More often than not, she could be found with her head in a book.

She wasn’t an angel. Of course she wasn’t. What 13-year-old is?

Behind those big, brown eyes, she could be full of impish mischief (and, yes, prone to the occasional teenage tantrum and bad behaviour in school).

But anyone who really got to know her found it impossible not to warm to her.

‘She was one of the kindest, nicest, funniest people I’ve ever met,’ one of her friends told us.

Her friend is speaking in the past tense because Amber is dead. Some of you might remember her face, if not her name, staring out from the newsstands and TV news bulletins after she went missing from her home in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, on May 30 following a family holiday in Cornwall. There was a row when they got back home. Words were exchanged. Then the front door slammed and Amber was gone.

She never came back. Some time later, her body was found hanged in a hedgerow in the middle of a housing estate less than a mile away.

For three days, no one had known she was there. She wasn’t spotted by the hundreds of police officers and local residents who’d been searching for her. There were no ‘suspicious circumstances’, police announced after making the tragic discovery — a stock phrase which meant that Amber’s death was not the subject of a murder investigation.

A few days before, in a televised press conference after she’d disappeared, her mother Kelly, 34, and stepfather Danny Peat, 31, talked about the holiday in Cornwall where Amber ‘had a fantastic time . . . we never stopped laughing, all of us together’.

Amber had been asked to clean out a cool box on their return, they said. She took umbrage, apparently, and stormed out of the house. It was completely out of character, said Mr Peat. She wasn’t ‘the kind of girl that would wander off’.

Amber’s death has now faded from the headlines. Life outside Mansfield has moved on.

But one question, the only one that really matters, still remains. Why?

It is a question that still haunts the community in Amber’s hometown, where she was buried last month. Her pink casket — with her name spelt out on the side — was mounted on a horse-drawn carriage; there couldn’t have been a more pitiful sight.

Yet, despite the blanket media coverage after she vanished, all we know about Amber is what we were told at that televised press conference and in a subsequent statement released after she was found.

‘We will always remember Amber for her love of singing and dancing,’ her mother and stepfather said. ‘She was never happier than when reading to her younger sisters and being surrounded by her family. We . . .will miss her always.’

Today, following our own inquiries over the past few months, a much fuller picture of Amber’s final months has emerged. It is a story this newspaper has now been asked to tell by members of Amber’s extended family because, they say, ‘Amber’s voice deserves to be heard’.

Tania Cadogan said...

The story, as so often in such cases, begins at home.

Amber’s stepfather, the man who spoke so lovingly about her in front of the cameras, has, for the time being, been removed from the family home by social services and is not allowed unsupervised contact with Amber’s younger sister, 12-year-old Riley.

The decision was taken after concerns were raised — in the aftermath of Amber’s death — that she had been exposed to severe and inappropriate punishments and incessant ridicule.

Those concerns were reinforced by our investigation.

Perhaps the best way of putting it is that Amber, according to neighbours and relatives we spoke to, led a Cinderella type of existence, carrying the burden of more than her fair share of the domestic chores, then being chastised if those jobs were not completed ‘satisfactorily’.

It was a row over the cleaning of the cool box, remember, that triggered her disappearance.

A serious case review is believed to have started into Amber’s death by the local Safeguarding Children Board, an organisation made up of groups such as councils, the police and the NHS, whose responsibilities include protecting young people. Such reviews are undertaken ‘when a child dies or is seriously injured, and abuse or neglect are known or suspected to be factors in the death’, says its website.

Suicides among children in their early teens are extremely rare. The most recent figures from the Office for National Statistics show that in 2013, just ten youngsters in the UK aged 14 or under were suspected of taking their own lives. Only two of those victims were girls.

For the moment, at least, Amber’s death has not been classed as suicide. Instead, it remains one of ‘undetermined intent’ — a phrase often used when there is no note left behind, because ‘suicide’ is a label that parents, naturally, find particularly distressing. The coroner is awaiting reports from social services and other agencies before holding the full inquest hearing; no date has yet been set.

Amber’s story is one that will surely resonate with countless other children in Britain from similar backgrounds.

Nothing in it, taken in isolation, would make the front pages. Amber wasn’t physically or sexually abused. The wretchedness of her daily existence, such that it was, slipped beneath the radar and passed for normal life. It is perhaps that which makes her plight so heartbreaking, so poignant.

Amber’s parents, who never married, split up in 2012. Her mother married Mr Peat not long afterwards, in 2013. The couple’s daughter, Lily Rose —half-sister to Amber and Riley — was born in May 2014.

This domestic upheaval would unsettle any child, but over the past two years alone Amber and her new family moved homes at least four times, veering between Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire, and she is understood to have attended at least three different schools.

One traumatic consequence was that Amber lost contact with her biological father, Adrian Cook, and her paternal grandmother — the ‘Nanna’ she used to visit every weekend, and at whose home she spent so many happy hours innocently painting her nails and pretending to be a model.

Until about a year ago, the Peat family were living in Peveril Road, Tibshelf, Derbyshire, about seven miles from Mansfield.

Enquiries there provide a glimpse into what life actually entailed for Amber. A number of residents on the street recall her having run away twice previously. On one occasion, they say, a police helicopter was dispatched to find her.

‘On those occasions she would be missing for a few hours and return home either late at night or in the morning,’ a spokesman for the Nottinghamshire force confirmed.

Neighbours in Peveril Road couldn’t help but notice how often Amber used to put out the bins or clear up rubbish from the garden.

Tania Cadogan said...

One small incident stands out — the time, it is alleged, Amber was spotted standing outside with her hands above her head. ‘We heard him [Mr Peat] shouting at her and telling her to go outside with her hands above her head as a punishment for looking at his laptop,’ said someone who lived opposite the family.

On another occasion, a relative told us how Amber had to clean out the kitchen cupboards before bed, only they ‘weren’t done properly so he made her get up and clean them again.’

And there is one more thing you should know about Peveril Road: when Amber’s family moved to their most recent address in Mansfield, they left behind a painfully thin cat.

‘It was really skinny,’ said a neighbour. ‘We fed it for a few days before they came back and picked it up.’

In 2011, Danny Peat was fined £1,000 and given a six-month suspended sentence for animal cruelty after a pet rabbit was found starved to death in its hutch at the house where he was then staying.

His recent history has been marked by broken relationships (he has at least two more children by other women) and trouble of one kind or another.

In one foul-mouthed online rant he denounced the Pubwatch scheme, in which landlords share intelligence on troublemakers, as ‘a power trip for f****** retards,’ adding, ‘I f****** hate coppers’.

Last year, unemployed Mr Peat was jailed for 16 months over a £120,000 tax fraud. He and an accomplice admitted attempting to falsely claim more than £200,000 in tax rebates. Derby Crown Court heard Mr Peat was the instigator and received £78,000 from the scam. He did not serve his full sentence.

It would be difficult to think of a worse role model for Amber.

One of the reasons the family moved so often, locals have suggested, was to try to escape the stigma of Mr Peat’s troublesome past. Amber’s home life continued to be problematic after moving to Mansfield.

The sound of shouting and raised voices could sometimes be heard coming from her house, we have been told. On at least one occasion, ,b>Amber is said to have been discovered hiding in a neighbour’s shed.

A few miles away in the village of Codnor, Amber’s Nanna — Jennifer Lancaster — invited us into her bungalow. The love she had for Amber, and Amber for her, is evident the moment you walk through the door.

There are photographs of Amber on the walls and in cherished albums. Amber at the fairground during holidays with her Nanna in Skegness. Amber in a fairy dress. Amber in a sun hat. The contrast between that happy little girl and the sad one in the photograph released after she went missing is striking.

Tania Cadogan said...

But Mrs Lancaster hadn’t been part of Amber’s life for the past two years. The last time the 66-year-old saw her (and her sister Riley) was on Mother’s Day 2013.

‘They rushed in and said they couldn’t stay for long as their mum was waiting in the car outside,’ she said. ‘I’d made them two little bracelets with pink stones for Amber and purple ones for Riley. They were just thrilled with them.

‘They hugged me and told me I was the best Nanna in the world.’

A few weeks later, their mother married Danny Peat. Mrs Lancaster never saw or spoke to Amber again.

When she went to their house soon afterwards, they had moved. There was no explanation, she says, no warning, and no way of getting in touch with Amber.

Her 39-year-old son Adrian was also cut out of his children’s lives.

To her credit, Mrs Lancaster, who is a broken woman today, does not try to paint her son as the perfect dad.

‘It must have been very difficult for the kids when he was with Kelly. It was a tempestuous relationship.’ Even so, you would have to have a heart of stone not to feel sympathy for Mr Cook in his attempts to re-establish contact with his daughters.

Following criticism on social media that he had effectively abandoned Amber, Mr Cook, who now lives in Scotland, told a newspaper he’d been ‘thrown out’ on Christmas Eve three years ago and only saw his daughters twice over the next few months until they moved.

By the time he found their new address, they’d moved again. Somewhere, caught up in the middle of all this, was Amber.

By now, she was living in a council house in Mansfield. Her day began much earlier than some of the other children because she attended the breakfast club at Queen Elizabeth’s Academy (where the first meal of the day is provided free of charge), which began at 7.45am.

Amber always walked to school, a two-mile journey through two housing estates that would have taken her about 30 minutes.

She was in the academy choir and loved dancing. One of her best friends was 12-year-old Brandon Stubbs. His mother allowed him to speak to us.

‘There was a group of about seven of us who would always sit at the same table for dinner,’ he said.

‘She was always kicking my chair or jumping on my back to get my attention. But when our group of friends arranged to meet up in town on a Saturday or go to the cinema, Amber would always sound like she wanted to come but she never, ever came out.’

Brandon, a highly intelligent, softly spoken boy, says he had ‘absolutely no inkling’ of what she was about to do.

He found out that she had run away when her family posted her photograph on Facebook next to the word: ‘Missing.’

After her body was found, Brandon, displaying wisdom beyond his years, posted his own tribute to Amber online. ‘If I could reverse anything in life, it would be to go back to you and tell you everything gets better.

‘You were so beautiful and pretty, you could have achieved anything you wanted, but you let go.

‘What the world has come to, the issues that made you feel this way, made you feel depressed and alone, it disgusts me.

‘It was just too soon: you had your whole life ahead of you.’

There were no ‘suspicious circumstances’ in Amber’s death, the police said. But that does not necessarily mean no one was to blame for what happened to her.

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Tania Cadogan said...

This would explain all the sensitivity i saw in the stepfather, it was guilt about the row they had and the way Amber had been treated.

Although the police said her death wasn't suspicious as in murder, i do and did wonder what's going on behind the scenes?
There were no signs of physical or sexual at the time of her death, this isn't to say that she had been physically abused in the past as reported by neighbors.
There is also emotional abuse.

For now, the step dad has been removed from the home, it has not been said why currently.
Given the reports from neighbors and his history and given that a parent is banned from the home usually for abuse or neglect, i wonder if he will face possible charges at some point?

Anonymous said...

I DO hope he has to face charges, Hobnob. This child was seriously emotionally abused by this horrible man, while her mother allowed it. Poor little thing. My heart so goes out to her. She was their little abused slave girl and the mother did nothing to stop it. They should BOTH be charged. -ABB

Anonymous said...

I wish the grandparents well.

Some states do not have grandparents visitation rights. I have heard of some grandparents who paid huge legal fees and sued for visitation rights, showing solid evidence why they should be allowed to have visitation with their grandchildren, and still lost even after filing appeals because of their state archaic laws and judges who refused to bend. This is just wrong and so unfair to the parties involved. I wish them the best. ABB

MzOpinion8d said...

The statements in the Cosby case sound like they were written by attorneys, specifically for the media...not a free editing account of events.

Brooks Houck is gonna get away with this. I don't think Crystal will ever be found.

Annonymous17 said...

What a sad story. I don't know anything about British law, but in my state, grandparents can intervene in an existing suit and sometimes file an original suit for custody. If Mrs. Lancaster had lived in the U.S., in my state, she would have been able to petition to get custody of Amber and her sibling if she could show the court that the kids were being neglected or abused.

I hope there is some way to bring that creep to justice.

Anonymous said...

He didn't want to find her. He didn't do it. He will take care of his children only.

The Interstate is a scary place for a woman-especially if she has tires~

It's amazing what lenghts these morons will go to in order to create a mystery. Sometimes they miss. Lol!

BTW: We know have the prints of the mysterious green dragon....thank ya'll for showing up to cover the debacle that made headlines. Nothing here....move on. OH! Your "L" train is wrapped in tinfoil and is baking in the hot August sun....just in case you get lost.

Bethany said...

He didn't want to find her.
He didn't do it.
He will take care of his children only.

He didn't want to find her.
(So a fiancee, who is totally innocent, doesn't want to find her, who is also the mother of his child?)

He didn't do it.
(What is "it" exactly that he didn't do? If she just went missing, got lost, why would there be a need to state what he didn't do?)

He will take care of his children only.
(Which means he will only take care of his youngest, as he didn't care enough about her children to call or love them as his own, even though they were to be married and he would become a step father??)

The interstate is a scary place for women, especially if she has tires.
(There really would be no other reason to be driving on an interstate without tires, so the interstate should be scary for all women all the time.)

I have traveled on interstate 80 my whole life, sometimes in the dark, alone, and have never been afraid. It can be a scary place for some women though. Home can also be a scary place if you are living with a psychopath. Especially one that doesn't care about you or your children.

Have no idea about the green Dragon and L train,
But I am quite sure that if they get enough evidence that they will nail Brooks Houck's a** to the wall.

I hope they started by checking his phone and computer first.

Anonymous said...

Excellent post Bethany. Just, I'm not quite sure they will nail Brooks Houck to the wall if they get enough evidence. He comes from a well connected political family of means. I doubt they've checked anything or intend too other than to make sure all bases are covered.

Missing beautiful mother of five Crystal Rogers could already be a cold case. I guess it remains to be seen, however, it wouldn't surprise me.

Bethany said...

You are spot on, Anon.
It's a damn shame that justice for her death will be in vain.

Juliet said...

Body stolen from SA funeral home
Police, family looking for body of Julie Mott, 25

By Stephanie Serna - Reporter
Posted: 11:57 AM, August 21, 2015
Updated: 7:18 PM, August 21, 2015

SAN ANTONIO - The body of a 25-year-old woman was stolen from a Mission Park Funeral Home North on Cherry Ridge.

Friday morning, the father of Julie Mott made a plea to the community. "We just want our daughter's remains returned so, we can have some closure to our grief," said Tim Mott.

Investigators believe Mott's remains were stolen Saturday, Aug. 15, after her services and before the funeral home closed for the night. Employees discovered the body was missing Sunday morning.

"There wasn't any forced entry to the facility," said Sgt. Javier Salazar. "So, what it's believed is between the hours of 1:30 p.m. when the service ended to about 4:30
p.m. when they locked up for the evening, someone came in and stole Ms. Mott's remains. That person remains at large."

Mott died of complications with cystic fibrosis on Aug. 8 and was a family friend of Dick Tips, the owner of the funeral home.

"I can't believe this is happening to such dear friends of mine and she's a dear friend of mine," said Tips. "This is a person that I know. This is a person that I know and I want her back."

Right now, it's not clear how her body was carried out. There are no surveillance cameras on the property and the facility is open to the public.

Tips said they will be making changes to their security, which would include closing off some doors.

Salazar said that as far as a person of interest, police are not ruling anything out.

However, Tips said he believes it may be someone who didn't agree with the fact that Mott was scheduled to be cremated this past Monday.

"We think it is possible that the fact that someone didn't believe in the cremation process, versus the traditional burial process," said Tips.

Tips is offering a $20,000 reward for information that leads to an arrest. The number to call is 210-225-TIPS (8477).

Anonymous said...

This is not solely an issue of grandparent visitation but sibling visitation, for which a much stronger case can be made.

John Mc Gowan said...

OT Update:

Mark Redwine blames ex-wife for Dylan's disappearance, death

DURANGO - A day after the La Plata County Sheriff's Office named Mark Redwine as a person of interest in the death of his son Dylan, court documents give hints about what could be his defense in a criminal case.

Court paperwork shows that Mark Redwine blames his ex-wife for encouraging his son to leave his house during his 2012 Thanksgiving break visit, which lead to the teen's death.

The paperwork, filed in response to a wrongful death lawsuit filed against Mark by Elaine Hall, argues that she "created the environment that was Dylan Redwine's life and ultimately likely led to his death."

The response goes on to say that Elaine made such disparaging and loathing comments to her son about Mark that "Dylan would not have left his father's home and would be alive today" had Elaine not made the comments.

Mark Redwine is asking for a court to consider awarding him monetary damages from Elaine for creating the conditions that ultimately lead to the death of the couple's son, and for hindering law enforcement from looking for the actual cause of Dylan's death.

Elaine Hall's original lawsuit, filed two months ago, blames Mark for the death of Dylan.

The La Plata County Sheriff announced Wednesday that Dylan's cause of death would be officially changed from undetermined to homicide.

The sheriff's office also called Mark Redwine "a person of interest" for the first time, and the office officially cleared Elaine, her new husband, and Dylan's brother from suspicion in the murder.

trustmeigetit said...

Not sure if this was an actual quote by Mark but appears to be "she created the environment that was Dylan Redwine's life and ultimately likely led to his death."

Almost sounds like he's blaming Elaine for how Dylan felt about him. And those feelings are possible what angered him and lead him to kill Dylan.

Not a confession by any means but sure could be see as blaming Elaine for what he did.

DJ said...

Truth No. 2

You don't like the sound of the truth
Coming from my mouth
You say that I lack the proof
Well baby that might be so
I might get to the end of my life
Find out everyone was lying
I don't think that I'm afraid anymore say that I would rather die trying

Swing me way down south
Sing me something brave from your mouth
And I'll bring you
Pearls of water on my hips
And the love in my lips
All the love from my lips

This time when he swung the bat
And I found myself laying flat I wondered
What a way to spend a dime
What a way to use the time, ain't it baby
I looked at my reflection in the window walking past
And I saw a stranger
Just so scared all the time it makes me one more reason
Why the world's dangerous

Swing me way down south
Sing me something brave from your mouth
And I'll bring you
Pearls of water on my hips
And the love in my lips
All the love from my lips

You don't like the sound of the truth
Coming from my mouth
You say that I lack the proof
Well baby that might be so
Tell me what's wrong with having a little faith
In what you're feeling in your heart
Why must we be so afraid
And always so far apart

Swing me way down south
Sing me something brave from your mouth
And I'll bring you
Pearls of water on my hips
And the love in my lips
All the love from my lips

Juliet said...

'Goodbye Earl' is better if -a bit harsh on him they were, though. :-/

John Mc Gowan said...

trustmeigetit said...

Not sure if this was an actual quote by Mark but appears to be "she created the environment that was Dylan Redwine's life and ultimately likely led to his death."

"that was Dylan Redwine's life"

Extreme distancing language!. Dylan is his son, yet he speaks of him as if he was a stranger.

My. Our. Dylan. The emotional connection is absent.

If you didn't know the case history, would you know he was talking about his son?.

Child Advocate said...

John, no. I would never connect him as Dylan's father. I feel Mark lost control and killed Dylan. Everything after that was aimed at hurting Elaine.

Anonymous said...

Off topic

Can someone please interpret this text from my son's father and tell me if it is truthful.

"I'm not answering the same retarded question a thousand times. I never did anything like the shit you accuse me of, and that's it."

I have an overarching suspicion about his actions but in this particular text I asked him a specific question about a phone call made from his house which I had not asked about before and he has been very non forthcoming about any questions I have asked about the overall pattern of suspicion.

Anonymous said...

Well anon @ 1:15

It is an unreliable denial. I 'never' is not to say "I didn't". .. and "did anything 'like' the shit you accuse me of" is avoiding 'what' you accused him of.
He didn't answer your question, therefore he answered your question...


Anonymous said...

video of Brian Bell saying he did not kill Lamar --

that's one guilty kid.

~mj said...

Anon @ 1:15,

To add to Vicki's accurate assessment.

Order is important. First your son's father tells you what he isn't going to do. Making answering the question sensitive. Then he insults the question, still not answering it. Then finally offering you an unrealible denial. -

Most important to him is the sensitivity of the question.

Statement Analysis Blog said...

I agree with Child Advocate re Mark Redwine.

I hope to type up an analysis summary soon.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Vicki and MJ for your analysis. Well, his lie means he is a closet homosexual who was seeing men while I was with him (which was for well over 10 years). I think he may be starting to come out of the closet since he has broken ties with our son and no longer wants anything to do with him. I guess we were just a cover for his closeted homosexual self. Ladies, trust your gut. I had the gut feeling this guy was gay, never thought he was talking to or seeing men but my gut kept telling me he was gay (even though he is not effeminate, etc.) and I kept ignoring it for well over 10 yrs. What a shitty life. Thank you for confirming what I suspected. He simply tells me I am "unhinged" when I suspect (ed) and asked him about it.

Anonymous said...

it makes me think of a short stop getting in theway at a little league game.

If you are from the south it doesn't need be announced. Thereisno booze, norain, no just isn'tsouthern. It might be fly in LA OR uf Janice Ian sings it

DJ said...

The song is about domestic abuse and being tired of living in fear.

What confuses me about the song is the pronoun shifting. Are there two men? Why does she speak TO and ABOUT (3rd person) the men? Is there one she's with (being abused by) and another she loves and wants to be with (but is afraid to leave the abuser)? She wants the "good guy" to "sing something brave from your mouth" and rescue her? The abuser doesn't like "the truth coming from my mouth" and abuses her for speaking her mind and voicing her suspicions about something (infidelity?)

Juliet- Goodbye Earl is more fun but more a fun revenge story. Truth No. 2 has something to offer us in the truth game: Not having "proof" but ha having faith we know the difference between truth and deceit when we hear it.

DJ said...

Or is it one guy? They fight, he beats her. She showers ("pearls of water on my hips" and then seduces him to calm him back to normal. That's what she does out of her fear. She wants him to be brave, truthful, admit his wrongs. The cycle repeats "this time when he swings the bat", and she grows tired of living in fear. She thinks she can be brave, she'd rather "die tryin" than continue to live in fear...

DJ said...

Anyway, I posted it because I suspect Crystal Rogers found herself in the same predicament and frame of mind. Sadly.

Trigger said...

Brooks Houck is acting like Josh Powell did towards Susan's family.

I fear that Brooks could kill his son and himself when he feels that he is loosing control and can't recover it, just like Josh did.

I think that Crystal's parents are justified in their efforts to have visitation with their grandson because of the circumstances, in which, Brooks was the last person to see Crystal, just like Josh Powell was the last person to see Susan.

Is Brooks staying close and connected to his family like Josh Powell did? I'll bet he is.

Court ordered grandparent visitation and monitored visits is what prompted Josh to do his last deadly acts of violence and contempt.

Anonymous said...

She has been disappeared, just like my last post. Perhaps the addage of the stranger in a hoodie wanted in another county being found on her cell phone (phony perhaps) was too close to the truth? I forgive the remover of the post as it has no merit or finacial gain for them either. It's not a sequal to something others have been harping on for a long time.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah...this missing post mentioned finacial abuse. Something about 5 children being too many and he'd rather pay for only one. And, the scenerio where her aunt went missing in '79 and was found...dead.

The financial abuse ends when people start making big bucks! Now the time is ripe. Some guy in a hoodie on her cell (allegedly) and the fact she must have gotten in a vehicle when someone she was familar with to leave her purse, keys, etc. behind. Unless this happened at night under duress when no one was around her car. Still, her keys would have been in the trunk if the tire was flat. They weren't. Who did she call last?

Dave said...

Off Topic: Have you guys seen this story? It caught my eye when I was in WalMart yesterday because it was all over the big screen TVs in the story. Missing 16 yr old girl in Horry County from where Heather Elvis was from. The resemblance between this girl and Heather Elvis is uncanny.

Dave said...

Please go to the link I posted above and scroll down a little ways through story to see the actual missing person's flyer. This girl looks like she could be Heather Elvis's identical twin.

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