Saturday, December 5, 2015

Davey Blackburn: Man on A Mission

Husband of murdered Amanda Blackburn announced to the public that he has been sent on a mission by divine authority.  

Where he said this divine revelation happened is something not lost by criminal psychologists.

He was "in the shower" where 'God' spoke to him, in question and answer format, told him that Amanda died so his church could live, and then sent Blackburn out to do a 'mighty' work so great that history books have not ever recorded something of this magnitude.

The shower is a place where one is cleansed. 

 The reference to "water" is often found in statements (and the language) where sexual abuse, sexual assaults, and sexual homicides are noted. This is consistent with behavioral analysis where both victims and perpetrators sometimes go to wash more than normal.  I have seen victims of sexual abuse shower 6 times a day and refuse to leave home, while others become obsessive hand washers.  The damage done within sexual abuse is not only deep, but far reaching.  One child sexually abused developed an extreme fear of water.  Another scrubbed her skin raw.  

'Water' and sexual abuse go together, both behaviorally, and linguistically.  

The shower is a place of "washing" and in this place, 'God', the one who can wash, was present, and once washed, he then is sent out to do this work of historical proportion. The crowd applauded him.

First note, that he has plagiarized the theme from scripture where Isaiah, a prophet, who was in chapter 6,  brought into the presence of the Almighty which resulting in giving Isaiah a strong self awareness as his reference point in life was forever changed.  Isaiah now saw himself as distinctly unworthy with a need to be cleansed.  The symbolic language next uses fire or heat as cleansing from transgression.   Once the cleansing took place, the question went out, "Who will go out for Me?" of which the now cleansed, humble and most grateful servant, Isaiah said, "Send me!  I'll go!"

Isaiah was brought into the presence of the Almighty which gave him powerful self awareness which showed him how "undone" he really was.  What was the result of Blackburn's 'revelation'?

Blackburn's wife was murdered, and he appeared utterly unaware of how mercenary-like, uncaring and distant his language revealed him to be, including after 'corrections' and subsequent statements.  

Blackburn has his own spin on Isaiah, but even within the narcissistic self imputation, he reveals that, as his mentor said, "something is very wrong "with him; a description that is sometimes heard when someone has a severe personality disorder.  

In Blackburn's 'vision', he comes out of it narcissistic and the center of attention, not "undone" but 'worthy!' of great historic things.  

A sad side note is that the educated pastor of the church did not recognize the twisted plagiarizing of the Biblical account, and how Blackburn used it  to make "Davey front and center" in the upcoming historical, nation- shaking event.   

Does Davey Blackburn delude himself  into believing he is a prophet on a mission, like Isaiah?  This would be difficult enough to deal with, but...

Does Davey  Blackburn see himself more as equal with God? 

  Is this the reason he uses the pronoun "we" as often as he does?

Q.  Does Blackburn suffer a form of delusion where he has equated himself with God in a way that makes him unique not only in the world, but in history?

A.  His language gives us the answer.  

Next note, the "Mission" of the man of Isaiah's vision. 

Isaiah came out so humbled and grateful, that he was willing to be a servant. 

Davey came out, and at age 30, not only arrogantly rebuked his father-in-law's entire congregation (who are a reflection of his work) but called his own congregation "my children."  He is now the chosen one to re-write the history books and the arrogance was immediate in his short speech.  He went from "I don't know if I can even talk" feigning of grieving to announcing that he, through Amanda's death, will give "life" to the "dead" church.  

The progression of this "mission" has been clear from the moment this story broke.  

From her own words and video, Amanda appeared to be a very loving, quiet, Christian mother who took her faith seriously.  She was publicly humiliated by her husband while alive, and now dead, she is having her private diary read, like a movie trailer, whetting the appetite of the intended audience for the big release.  

Amanda may have 'hindered' his 'career ambitions' in life, but in death she is now tasked with bringing the nation's churches back to life, and we don't have to guess who will carry this message.  

When the horrible news of the murder took place, Blackburn released a statement that said, in effect,
"But my career goes on!"

This was what caused the Fox News commentator to point out the narcissism of the statement, as well as the blaring omission of love for Amanda or his slain child, as well as fear of the killer. 

Blackburn continued this "mission" theme, recognizing how this death has been the bonanza of free national advertising.  While he should have been grieving, or in the least, scared out of his mind that the killers were coming back for him or his son, instead, he had the wherewithal to tell his church, 

'the nation is watching, if media tries to talk to you, here is what I want you to tell them, and oh, by the way, wear jeans and come laugh...'

He would orchestrate, choreograph, and control every detail, down to flashing a gun, wearing tight shirts, and telling people what to say and wear.  The arrogance is extreme but matches the language and if you thought he was arrogant before, what is to come of him now, that he has conversed with the Almighty in the shower?

This, from a man who's wife and unborn child were murdered and the killer on the loose who refused to say "I love Amanda" or demand justice, or even express concern for the killers "out there" who could kill his neighbors.  

"Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.'

What would you say if your wife had just been sexually assaulted and brutally murdered?  Remember, the killer had removed her clothing.

If you could even speak after losing your better half, would you have the presence of mind that he had?

Once on TV, he gave the 'yeah, yeah, the family is grieving  but guess what?  6,500 customers tuned in online alone and...'

People were shocked.  


At the memorial, his mentor spoke.  You may have thought it would be about the Resurrection of Christ, or about Amanda. 

It wasn't.  

It was about Davey Blackburn and the language was that of first warning that something was very wrong with him, 
something that only a woman could fix, and then it was how "beautiful" or sexy Davey is.  

Huh?

What does this mean?

It means that while speaking of Amanda's death, he was thinking about Davey and sex.  

If you think this was not 'sexy' language, take note of Perry Noble's own defensive qualifier. He knew it was when he said the unnecessary:  "If you're a man, you know what I am talking about."  

What is it here that men would understand, but not women?

It is an alarming statement and the context, again, is key.  

Remember:  everyone takes showers.  Showers can be relaxing and people like to be cleansed, and like to think, or even sing in the shower.  

Few people, however, feel the need to tell the public about being in the shower.  

Statement Analysis recognizes the linguistic need of water, not water itself, in statements where sexual abuse or sexual homicide are indicated.  

The key is context:  the need to say where he was when visited and conversing with the Almighty. No one asked him, "Where were you when God talked to you?"

It is an unnecessary part of the sentence and that which is unnecessary is deemed "doubly important" in analysis.  

Blackburn's best friend told the public what they "needed" to hear during the memorial.  What did the public need to hear?  Was it about the resurrection from the dead?  Was it about how kind, thoughtful and loving Amanda was?

No, they needed to hear something else. 

They "needed" to hear about Davy's alibi.  

He and Davey talked every week for one hour.  

Why would the public need to hear this?

It reveals his own doubts about "Crazy Davey" but it also raises a question by what he did not say:  


He did not mention if this talking for one hour, at the same time, included Davey staying outside in the driveway for 40 minutes every week, or this was just the week that he not only forgot to lock the door, but stayed outside on the phone instead of continuing in doors where, his wife was still alive, but bled out.  Consider this when you read his own father's comment about brain activity and the loss of blood.  

Would she have survived had he not sat outside for 40 minutes on this one particular week?

It was Blackburn, himself, who felt the need to tell the congregation that he was in the shower, naked.
Amanda was found murdered, with her clothing off.

It is Blackburn, himself, who hears 'God' talking. 

 What did 'God" tell him?

Amanda died so his church could live.

This certainly justifies Amanda's death for one who's ambition for his career was enough to make his own wife want to leave him, but wrapped in enough religious language and people applauded.  

Previously, Amanda had complained that her husband's work in his church was so much that she wanted to move back home with her parents.

Blackburn, previously, had said that a wife could "slingshot" or harm a man's career in a church. It was quite a warning.  

Blackburn had publicly complained about Amanda and pregnancy making for a bad marriage.  

What was his specific and public complaint about her?

It was sex.

Where did his 'God" have this Q & A session?

In the place where one is cleansed, in the language of those who are victims of sexual abuse, perpetrators of sexual abuse, or work in the field of sexual abuse:  the language of water.

What did his mentor talk about at Amanda's memorial?

Sex.  

Does the mentor have his own doubts about Blackburn?

Blackburn, even before the killer was caught, spoke of "Amanda's Story" and had family selling t shirts to raise money, though his career seems to be uninterrupted financially, and life insurance may be in the waiting.  

The obsession with career is more than just an obsession, it appears to be a frightening justification of Amanda's death.  

Why the need to justify the death?

"Amanda died to give life to the church' is blasphemous to Christians who hold that God gave His Son, Christ, to die so that His church would live.  

Is he equating himself with God?

The father-in-law, as pastor, gave affirmation with silence and then the audience showed its approval.  

His "vision" and his "Q&A" with 'God', has signaled that he is no longer bound by Scripture, (own authority as a cultist) and he is off on a mission. Since he went beyond Scripture, even any claim of "extra Biblical revelation" itself, being "of Scripture" is now null and void since it is in plain contradiction of Scripture. Those of the faith will understand why this is so important.  The authority now is no longer a written standard; it is Davey and whatever 'God' tells him is now authoritative.  

How far is he going to take this? 

His ambition is limitless; so much so that the murder of his own wife is but a yawn compared to the commercial opportunities.  His followers are impressed by his non reaction, as if, as one detective put it, he was already perfected in heaven, while yet being here on earth. 

If it is a show, it is one talented showman.  The lack of emotion and absence of fear of the killers, however, is more consistent with guilty knowledge than any sales technique connected to 'higher life' or stoic living.   

His language has signaled an obsession that, since first written, has shown neither filter nor ability to contain himself, and appears to have become either unhinged, or 'set free' to do any and everything he can to promote himself. 

He now believes himself to be directed by 'God' to be thrust into history.  This could prove to be something almost impossible to talk one out of.   He and 'God' both gave their loved ones to give life to the church.  I use 'God' due to the conflict of definition and respect to readers.  This man's delusional guilty language is an affront to many people of faith.  Think of the men who predicted the end of the world only to, once the date passed, feign a mea culpa and go back and set yet another date.  This form of ego is near impossible to reason with and the results can be tragic. 

His plagiarism of Isaiah may be readily seen by us, though not the pastor where he spoke, nor his followers, but what is not seen by his followers is what he is plainly stating:

                  His need to be cleansed.  

Of what?  

I am not sure, for even victims of childhood sexual abuse, as adults, express 'guilt' and a need to be cleansed from it, often evidenced through self loathing and self destructive behavior. 

Again, I return to context.  

Davey Blackburn is telling us of his need to be cleansed and it comes in context of his wife's murder. 

"For us, we have nothing to hide."

This is a statement of guilt by one who has ascribed himself both prophet like status, and Divine like status and he is on a mission. 

Is it a guilt from capitalizing so blatantly on her death, including the deliberate misuse of Scripture?
Is it a guilt from having done some other things wrong, in relation to his bad marriage?  Is this what is behind all the sex language from both him and his mentor?  Does his mentor signal concern about Davey Blackburn and sex?

Or, is the guilt far worse, as in one who, somewhere along the line, met criminal elements, even in 'counseling' sessions, and told them of his bad marriage, and how she did not satisfy him sexually and how much she is hurting his career...

Even now, they are plainly stating that money sales are going straight to "Davey and Weston", which in using the child's name, is a form of emotional manipulation.  It is unnecessary to  include the name, therefore, the inclusion, itself, is "sensitive" to whoever wrote it or had it written.  

Did he lose his salary?
Was Amanda supporting them?

Why the need for money now, since even some weekly expenditures have just gone down?  

Go back to that which is central; the context. 

All of this comes from the murder of Amanda Blackburn. 

The obvious hamming for the camera, the 'working of the room,' the marketing and  exploitation of his wife's death, all are tangents away from that which brought him into prominence in the first place and gave him his national audience.  

The central issue and the point of all comes from this:  Amanda's murder is not just the "lucky" odds-breaker of someone who openly complained about his marriage, but her murder is the "marching orders" of which a man now claims to have heard from the Almighty that he is called to "breathe life" into his church (whom he calls his "children") but to an entire nation.  

We should not lose focus as we see the bizarre ego-centric cult beginnings: . 

It is a murder investigation with coincidences that need to be thoroughly known.  

Blackburn is a man on a mission.  

When one sees himself as having a personal conversation with 'God' it is near impossible to reason with him. 

He is "special" above and beyond all others. 

By the fact that he has a talent for performance, a good intellect and can perform as he does, makes it very challenging to reason with him.  It often takes a "comeuppance" to bring someone "down to earth", like a tragedy. 

Instead, the tragedy of Amanda's murder has thrust him further from reality, not closer, and has vaunted him to this incredible personal status with 'God', where he is so special, and so wonderful, and so very different than everyone else, that he, himself, is chosen to do a work that history has not yet written about, placing him above the greats of American history, who accomplished things, but were not sent of 'God' like he was.  

He will not be bound by reason. 
He will not be bound by criticism. 

And he has now told us:

He will not be bound, nor limited even by Scripture, itself. 

If he has had no connection to the shooters, completely, and the source of his guilt not known, what becomes of him when he does not "rewrite" history books with his life?  Beyond reason, what happens when, in a sense, the 'date setting' fails?

What, in effect, does the equating himself with God actually tell us about his future plans of glory?

Listen to him. 

Listen carefully to what he has told us when he supplanted Christ with Amanda. 

He is a man on a mission to use books, television, movies, internet, and whatever it takes to spread the word:

 '...for 'Davey so loved the world, that he gave Amanda life to make the church live..."







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Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:46; I don't give a rat's ass where you live,
and I don't give a rat's ass who you know;
for all I know you could have the IQ of a bubble bee.

This I DO know, you have not kept up with the actual FACTS of the situation; those being Davey's OWN words and actions over a long period of time. To defend issues you know nothing about concerning Amanda's life according to her OWN words that you obviously have NOT read, or if you did you didn't give a flip about, makes you as dumb as a box of rocks.

Maybe one day you'll get to suffer at the hands of a man like SHE did.
I have nothing more to discuss with you, EVER. ABB

Anonymous said...

Vicki at 12:24; Why even mention that the entire family needs support? Support for WHAT? What hard days? They went right back to "whatever it takes" and "the best is yet to come" smiling all the way with Amanda grievously murdered and lying dead in her casket. I don't EXCATLY call that the "bet is yet to come"... For WHO, certainly not Amanda and her unborn baby.

Are they talking about money donations for ALL of them? Sorry, but they can all go p'ss up a rope before I'd send them any money. They have their congregations and their tee-shirt sales and videos and books galore. Let them peddle THOSE and scam some more off their congregations with their false doctrines. Or pound on Davey's good bud, preacher Nobel's back door.

As for Davey, let him go out and get an actual JOB with a REAL paycheck like he should have done years ago. He's no better to work than anyone else and certainly no preacher of the gospel, I think he's already proved that real good. ABB

Anonymous said...

Good question whether he is the one who offered his 'gym' alibi first, I suspect it was him who worded the post, or at least proofed the money solicitation and modified it to suit himself before it was made. In rereading the post I see where prayer was not mentioned as being a 'support' so yes it was money for all of them they were asking for. Yet, prayer conquers all, right?

People really have some nerve, especially supposed people of God who didn't even show any grief for this precious soul. Maybe anon @11:46, so trusting in her judgment, will get her little butt out there and go door to door knocking to collect a little spare change for them? They've got all these buddies you know, so let'em do it. There are plenty of people in this world who need some help and it AIN'T them. And THAT's my thoughts on the begging for money matter. ABB

M said...

Anon @12:22 - Where did you see him?

Anonymous said...

I find it weird that all the people who were on the video of the Sermon after her death were all weeping and yet Davey has not wept at all.

BH said...

ABB, why are you getting so angry? There's no need to attack the other posters.

Is everything all right at home?

Anonymous said...

Re: M @ 1:18
The poster saw DB and Weston shopping at the grocery store last evening. The store was located 20-30 minutes North of his home. Her post is up thread at approx 8:00pm last night.

M said...

Anon @ 2:36 I read that - that's why I asked if he was seen in Hamilton Co. Maybe I wasn't clear in my next question. Carmel? Noblesville? was he at Marsh, Fresh Market?

I am just curious because I'm in that county.

Louise K said...


"Could the robbery spree that culminated in Blackburn's murder also be a gang crime, perhaps even an initiation?

When asked Monday, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department spokesman Sgt. Kendale Adams emphatically said no.

"Gangs are fluid," Adams said. "There was no known gang activity connected to this particular crime."

**************************************

Just had to post this HILARIOUS statement by police

They've got a (what?) pack of little hoods doing burglary/murders, seemingly by design

and its NOT a gang.....???????????


WTF

An organized bunch of hoodrats intent on performing (whatever) crimes in unison = Sorry Sgt Adams but where I live

That's a GANG

Louise K said...

As I keep saying

I used to be a gym junkie

NOTHING BUT NOTHING got in the way of my workout

I once had a male friend call me and say "my wife just threw me out I have no where to go" and I literally said "so? I've got to go I'm in a class"

When you do workouts at the gym you

1. puff and pant (that's the point)
2. count (if you're lifting you are ALWAYS counting)
3. be silent as you can so as not to disturb other gym patrons

You DO NOT repeat DO NOT engage in chitter chatter on your phone at the gym - let alone an entire HOUR of it, regularly scheduled.

You schedule your workout AROUND your day, so DB should've NOT EVEN GONE TO GYM THAT DAY as he had a "regularly scheduled" hour long call to engage in.

Pastor Kenneth - keep yapping buddy - You ARE the Weakest Link...

Anonymous said...

M, Kroger, Westfield

Kate said...

If it's not a gang, why were they labeled "the kill gang"? The media ran with that little nugget for at least a few days.

JBB said...

ABB, I have not commented in a week because I thought some of this stuff was getting a little too speculative. I have been reading, though, and notice that you are HIGHLY EMOTIONAL. Your response below is out of line, IMO. Someone pointing out a real observation from his/her own experience is not something you should be offended by. You seem to be easily offended. I have to chuckle thinking that we could probably get a lot out of analyzing your words. Someone should tell you to "Chill out."

Below is response by ABB to a commenter.


Anon @ 11:46; I don't give a rat's ass where you live,
and I don't give a rat's ass who you know;
for all I know you could have the IQ of a bubble bee.

This I DO know, you have not kept up with the actual FACTS of the situation; those being Davey's OWN words and actions over a long period of time. To defend issues you know nothing about concerning Amanda's life according to her OWN words that you obviously have NOT read, or if you did you didn't give a flip about, makes you as dumb as a box of rocks.

Maybe one day you'll get to suffer at the hands of a man like SHE did.
I have nothing more to discuss with you, EVER. ABB

Kate said...

*If it's not gang related

Louise K said...

Or DB should not have been in the gym...

one or the other

you cannot work out and take a serious call at the same time

and no true Gym Junkie would even try

This is a MAJOR hole in his alibi

Major

BC quite a few of the Investigating Officers also work out, also know what I just said about the silence required for gym patrons

Someone yapping on their phone will be asked to STOP or leave by Gym Management or even other patrons

it is just sooooo wrong

DB ís actually expecting us to believe he had two commitments running consequtively that morning

1. workout
2. scheduled convo

How likely is it that ANYONE - let alone a Pastor who does nothing else all day, have these two important items conflicting on an otherwise blank calendar?

Didn't think that out too well now didya Davey Boy?

Louise K said...

As far as bickering - anyone with Anon as a tag is ignored anyway so


I suggest everyone else do the same thing

People WILL bicker over this one simply bc Davey presents himself as a Representative of God

Highly sensitive to some people

Me, he may as well has presented as the Fairy from the Bottom of the Garden - if he (or his money grubbing smiley faced supporters) is a Man of God I'm Mother Theresa.

JBB said...

"you cannot work out and take a serious call at the same time"

Good point. Has anyone looked at distance between gym and home for DB? Would it have been likely he got on phone WHILE at they gym or later on the drive home? Can someone break down timeline as to what time he checked into gym and what time phone conversation began?

Kate said...

ABB, for what it's worth, I look forward to your posts every single day and I love your passion! Amanda would have been well served to have had a few friends in her life like you, now that would be a blessing.

Louise K said...

Oh and....mentally ill people are entitled to an opinion too, it doesn't make them Stupid

I find the word Moist incredibly offensive but I don't insist no one else use it

I suggest the same sort of armour is required when visiting a blog site on the tinternet

Coming along and instructing others on their choice of words is just revolting IMO

People are allowed to say what they think and how they think it

If you have a problem with that that's YOUR problem

roll and scroll folks

or stop reading the heathenness altogether.

For Fucks Sake

Or, go to Websleuths where everythings all "gosh golly gee"

Kate said...

Haha Louise! Right on! :)

Louise K said...

So far in this case we have:

1. a workout that wasn't a workout
2. a burglary that wasn't a burglary
3. a sexual assault that wasn't a sexual assault

Add them together (like Police have) and whaddaya got....????

STAGING

JBB said...

@Louise K

I'm curious as to who your comments are directed. ... Is it that only ABB should be allowed to say anything or the poster who described seeing DB in the grocery store?

Louise K said...

Where did I say that...?

I was actually being very Godly

Lecturing EVERYONE can turn the other fucking cheek and stop telling EVERYONE how to post

Now return to topic please

specifically

Davey Smugface Blackburn

ta

Louise K said...

JBB

why cant you break down the timeline yourself?

Then you know its right

That's what I do

its safest that way rather than sitting about relying on other folks (possibly) incorrect information

Louise K said...

I find DB appearance in the supermarket with Weston very very odd.

1. he has a entire congregation of servants to bring his shopping
2. he KNOWS hes going to be stared at
3. he doesn't care he and Weston also are going to be stared at
4. I never took my baby to the supermarket at 8pm, not ever, not once, because they were already in bed (being babies and all)

As far as slumping out with the weight of the world on his shoulders - wonder what's changed eh....?

Police maybe giving him a bit of a hard time perhaps

He certainly wasn't slumping in the aftermath of Amanda's death

But getting powdered up to talk on GMA (SMILE!!)

Yet a simple grocery shop seems to fill him with despair...

Hmmm

Interesting...

Maybe the pressure IS getting to him

JBB said...

@Louse K

Wow! Nutter! LOL! It's just a good thing LE doesn't have to rely on yours and ABB's tangential tirades to solve this case. Your foul-mouthed nonsense would have the case thrown out of court in a heartbeat for its lack of evidence and "emotional" reasoning!

Good grief! I have to find somewhere else to get info on this case.

You are turned up way too loudly and screwed in way too tightly. No one can have rational and reasonable discussions with people like you or ABB.

Mental midgets: both of you.

Louise K said...

JBB

Great idea

perhaps while you do that you could also ponder the mentality of a person who comes on an anonymous forum to call other posters "screwed in way too tightly" and "mental midgets"...

Louise K said...

Thoughts:

I'm wondering about the Blackburn finances.

There's a whole bunch of folk who APPEAR successful, nice houses, clothes, cars

but are up to their ears in debt

Davey and Amanda were living on loans and whatever was donated

THATS why Davey was so furious with his congregation - not so much ill attendance - but whatever went into the plate WAS HIS INCOME FOR THE WEEK.

Low attendance = low collections = BAD WEEK

Poor Amanda - I seem to be the only person who's even wondered about the effect of all that furniture restoration may have on a developing fetus - she will be using quite strong chemicals, inhaling, getting them on her skin too.

Poor, poor Amanda - with her Dad's loans and furniture restoration, she was actually the Breadwinner

Its quite possible Davey's gun waving style turned attendance down wherever he went

Instead of toning it down he just kept going to bigger cities

He failed as a Pastor, in fact is still failing BECAUSE HE DIDNT ADDRESS HIS OWN CONGREGATION

Maybe his own congregation thinks he did something bad too

All opinion

Louise K said...

Anonymous JBB said...
@Louse K

Good grief! I have to find somewhere else to get info on this case.

*******************


PMSL

Try tinternet

google is your friend

Cyndi said...

I'm wondering why Amanda had to re-finish furniture to make ends meet. Both her parents and in-laws are well-established professionally and financially! Couldn't they have helped her out with finances, especially since she was expecting another child.

My sons are all grown, but I try to help them out with a few hundred bucks each month in order to lessen their burden when necessary!

Anonymous said...

Kate, ref your post at 3:23, I would have loved to have been Amanda's friend. I would have loved her and could have helped her so much. I would not have ignored her silent pleas for help that no one heard. I would have seen and observed, and heard. She could have been like a daughter to me. I'll guarantee you, she and little Weston would have had a place to go where she was cared about.

As for my rudeness to another anon poster further up who whined all this pity for Davey, yes I did go a little overboard. I'm sorry about that anon; maybe I was wrong but it just burns me up to see anyone defending this dirty rat that destroyed this beautiful girl who was SUCH a good woman, AND a good wife and mother, working and trying SO hard to please this freak of a human being calling himself a man. I'd guarantee you she prayed many a long and sobbing prayer for his soul.

I can't stand someone like him being defended; AND claiming to be a practicing man of God on top of it! We have enough men as it is abusing their wives either psychologically or physically or both, which is ALSO to say they are abusing her children whether they ever lift a finger to them or not; with no one coming to their aid or rescue, now in death someone would actually stand up for a husband who mentally abused his wife in every way from the first week she married him?

AND for all we know, he could have physically abused her too. That's just it, we don't know, but I have my private thoughts that he DID. Why wouldn't he, he abused her in every other way. Poor girl, my heart aches for her. It does. ABB

Louise K said...

Amanda got a dent in her grill

Anonymous said...

Well durn JBB, you are really jacked out of shape today. What gives sweetie? Somebody bothering you? Wowzer. Now THAT is sad. So sorry honeybun.

Guess we'll just have to let him? her? move on to greener pastures? And good luck with THAT, 'eh Louise!

But that's alright, you can come back when you're ready JB, having burned all your bridges behind you. No grudges coming from me. Comprende? Right Louise? ABB

Kate said...

Agreed ABB. At the very least, she was sexually abused and emotionally abused, in my opinion. If she were physcially abused, he would have to be very careful in that she wore a lot of sundresses and clothes that would show the marks. Going through the pictures, she seemed like such a fun and friendly spirit, but at the end in the Q&A vid, she seems beaten down and defeated.

They put a rush on the labwork for the gun, wish we'd hear something back on that. Wish we'd hear back on anything, but I know it could take months.....

Anonymous said...

You're on a roll today Louise. Cracking me up as usual. Right on too.... You go girl! You'll open a few eyes sooner or later. I'm betting on it! ABB

Anonymous said...

Cyndi & Louise, I have been saying all along that there had to be financial problems in the Blackburn home. It couldn't have been any other way.

I am a financial consultant when the need arises in my business, and a good one. I have to be. I don't touch clients who can't afford to deal with me. What's the point, wasting everyone's time? I can size up these money situations in nothing flat. Here's what we have here:

A man who does not have a dependable job with a stable income. Reminded by Juliet, I remembered this morning that he does have a temporary substitute teachers job. Not dependable, no monthly fixed amount of income. Uh oh. Bad news. Whatever salaried paying job he has he must show at least two years solid employment with adequate stable income. Nope, can't count that.

First, churches are known for being in debt and not having stable tithes coming in. Their paying audience fluctuates from week-to-week, month-to-month, some keep their commitments and some don't. People lose their jobs, they have sickness, the wife quits her job or somebody decides to get a divorce and all hell breaks lose, they lose their home and can't pay their bills. Whatever the case may be, the tithes and offerings are the first thing to go, the medical bills next. These are not under contract to be paid.

The pastors salary is not considered stable unless his church is a big time money maker, like preacher Nobels', but still pastor whoever must show at least two years stable income at the same church. Davey doesn't have this. Secondly, the pastors salary is the first thing to be cut, as all church related expenses have to be paid first. In Davey's case that would be the rent. Cheap. BUT the church owns no real estate, there is nothing there to claim as assets. Dead duck.

His wife does not have a job, does she have any income coming into the marriage? How? How much? From where? It it's not a stable paying (verifiable) job, child support/alimony, dividends or something with a stable long-term fixed income it does not count. No credit worthiness coming from there.

Should I go on, outlining their expenditures and what either one or both may be doing to earn extra money on the side? None which would count towards borrowing power. Amanda was refinishing old furniture because she needed to bring in some money. Poor girl, and her pregnant and having to breathing in harsh toxins, making herself sick. How long can this last, not that it would help to get them approved for a loan of any kind.

What was Davey doing to bring in money other than his unstable substitute teachers job which doesn't pay much and is not dependable. NOW, if I were looking closely at how these people were living, I'd have to give them a thumbs down on their credit cards and everything else. Unless they had some money stashed, and a nice sized chunk at that, I wouldn't even bother to check their credit rating.

They are broke. This is pathetic, with him running around to the gym, to coffee shops and spending dribbles here and there and everywhere and burning up gasoline that he can't afford while it all adds up. Frick'en LOSER and him with a pregnant wife and baby to support, while Mr. Bigshot likes to travel, keeping the credits cards maxed out! Do you see it now or do I have to make this get even uglier? ABB

Anonymous said...

I can at least give him the benefit of his salary from his church plant, whatever that was, but it is not stable and cannot be counted toward being approved for any type loan because it could be cut at any time and the fact that he does not have the two year income track record, plus they have credit cards and other bills to pay, all of this would count against their 'income to debt ratio'. Not approvable.

Besides all that, their/his previous employment must be verified and credit approved. My guess is that they were only able to obtain a mortgage on their residence by taking out a high rate sub-prime mortgage loan, with possibly even one of the parents or Nobel coming up with the down stroke plus closing costs, UNLESS Davey took it out of that $100G Nobel fronted him to start his plant church. ABB

Mark B. said...

Mark B. here, Hope y'all have been good.

Some thoughts.
- DB's Friends
- DB's Finances
- DB's Grill & Thoughts on Race
- DB's Girl


DB's Friends
- Are going to be the ones to implicate him. DB seems to be the cleverest of the group; one of his less smart associates will say something foolish to damn him.
- Case in point: 1 of DB's friends, on Twitter, wrote "no one gets excited about an execution." Who said it was an execution? Is that a slip? The neighborhood watchman has been seen grinning on camera while 'mourning' AB>


DB's Finances
- Evangelical churches are expensive to run because of all the darn technology they use. Everything is taped, and edited to death, and you need special lighting. The irony is that good old-fashioned preaching and compassion will bring more followers than all the fancy technology in the world.
- The 3 pastors at my church are always dressed EXPENSIVELY -- expensive shoes, shirts, haircuts. If you're a pastor, I guess that maybe some services you might get for free -- free coffee, free trims, or something. But you sure ain't getting free shoes & clothing. And a gym membership? That costs money. And why does DB always looks tanned no matter the season? All this adds up. And it adds up faster when the membership is small.


DB's Grill
- DB's obsession with his grill is a masculinity prop. I made the heated observation that many of these churches are homosexuality rings with preaching on the side. I'm a gay, Southern Evangelical. An awful lot of men who were gayer than the sun is hot disappeared and reemerged as preachers. Preaching and Politics are the two best paths for a Southern male narcissist. DB whining about his grill is to PROVE to you that he is very masculine.
- He could have complained about cars/sports/sex/whatever, it's all a prop to say 'I'm a straight man.'

Thoughts on race:
- Evangelical churches have been trying to recruit African-Americans. It's a smart strategy: A-As are highly religious, they are more musically-open than a typical White audience, they are used to longer sermons/services (Evangelical services run from 1 to 4 hours). DB, finding that the White Indianapolis audience was not responding, might have tried reaching out to a Black audience.
- But Black Christians, just like White ones, probably saw DB and thought 'What a creepy f.'I bet that DB being a young man, tried (AND FAILED) to befriend young Black men, and get them involved in the church.
- You need warm, charismatic leaders doing the outreach. DB is neither warm nor charismatic and I don't think he was smart enough to delegate the outreach to other people.


DB's Girl
- Speaking of which, DB had a HUGE asset in his fellow leader Amanda Grace, but he did not see her as an equal. He saw her as a prop that would make him pastorly (look at me, I;ve got a wife and a kid), but he didn't understand that all the warmth and HUMILITY and love that are needed to bring more people to Jesus were emanating from Amanda, not from him. AB could have gotten, I'm sure more Black people involved. Hell, she could have started a group for pregnant Christians, and brought in moms of all races who would have brought in their spouses, cousins, neighbors, coworkers.
- The machismo of the church is really galling. I think the younger generation is worse than the older one. The 60yr old founder of the church I attend treats his wife like a superstar and gives all her credit for his success. She preaches regularly and leads conferences and events. NewSpring and DB's radical sect were not smart enough to treat the women in their midst as equals.
- If DB REALLY wanted to grow his church, he would have incorporated AB into his mission, no matter how much he hated her. But he wanted all eyes on him at all cost.

Well, actually, he found a way for AB to get involved but she had to die first to be let in.

A crying shame.

Tricia Johnson said...

So much time has gone by and yet not one word in the news about Amanda. Did he get away with it? If so, he will kill again.

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