Embedded confessions...part one -threehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slziMpXYjJohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyB29g6nbDohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWWjkL-joS4
An excellent job Peter. I can't wait for the fireworks to begin from their supporters.
These are excellent videos. They give a good overview and a good lesson in application. I will show them to my family to help explain what I'll soon be studying.
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So many interesting points in this breakdown, so many things I did not know...things that make perfect sense when Peter details it out, piece by piece. I need to learn to listen better. Poor Madeline. Those poor twins. The poor supporters who've donated time and money, who've emotionally invested themselves into the search for Madeline. It's easy to see why Portugese LE are angry and called Kate out as a liar. Who knows how much this story has cost the people of Portugal in tourism dollars, not to mention emotionally? SMH
Listening to Part 2 of Peter's Interview!Excellent....Engaging....Informative! So easy to comprehend.Thank you, Peter!Soph
Peter, These videos are fascinating. It is so interesting to hear you enter into the statements and analyze them. I am like 11 min or so into this 2nd video, and I also do not know much about this case, but the point when the Mom says "I mean she was just really tired, but she was just cuddled up on my knee", I got this weird feeling that I sometimes get when studying these cases here that whoah, at that point the Mom is describing, the child (in this case) was dead. I got that same exact feeling when DAvey Blackburn said he found Amanda bowed beside the bed in a posture of surrender. It's this weird feeling I get, tied to linguistics but somewhat intuitive, that the person is making an overexaggerated effort to describe the individual as being alive, and usually it comes out as the person is in a strange posture "bowed in posture of surrender"(prayer)...."really tired but just cuddled on my knee"(half-asleep?) and a an altered mental state. I acknowledge this is more an intuitive sense that I get rather than scientific, however it's a very strong, distinct feeling that I get when listening to statements. My mind just seems to know "OK, at this point that is being described the individual is now dead".I hope this makes sense.
Oh OK I see you deducted to the same thing at 23:00...you say "Madeleine was not alive at that time".
The Dad has an absolutely perverted vibe. When he asks Madeleine to spin around and show her wings and says something like "oh that's just beautiful" it sounds totally creepy, and he also has creepy, perverted-looking eyes.
Yes it does. I made that same connection with statement analysis and the intuitive factor. It's scientific but at the roots of it we're dealing with human behavior and our insides react.
Peter- Is it odd that Kate described she and Madeline as "cuddling on her [Kate's] knee"? It sounded awkward to me. I've heard parents and grandparents say they cuddled/held their child/grandchild on their lap...they bounce children or babies on their knee. Is this indicative of storytelling?From Gerry's Find Madeline blog and various interviews, I've gotten the impression from their language that Madeline could be self-willed and headstrong at times (like all toddlers and preschoolers- not surprisingly). Kate's telling us that Madeline is "very tired" and they're cuddling, but not tucked comfortingly into Kate's lap as anyone with any experience with a child would expect...she's on Kate's knee. That Madeline isn't in her lap, to me, implies a struggle- perhaps Madeline wanting down and Kate trying to contain her. Maybe Madeline didn't want to go to sleep (naptime or bedtime) and a struggle ensued (or discipline was being administered) and she was injured/fell and hit her head. The injury was either beyond being explainable in an ER or she was medicated or both. So, the disposal and kidnapping scenario was invented and pushed. Just my opinion.
The mother speaks of her in that awkward posture, because she was dead at that time. Maybe rigor mortis had already set in? I think liar's who are trying to lie about someone who is dead actually being alive find it too uncomfortable to describe the dead person as doing something active like "running, playing a game" etc...they seem to only be able to lie by describing an image of the individual in an awkward posture with an altered mental state. With DB, he describes Amanda as "bowed by the bed in a posture of surrender praying" (there again we see the awkward posture of the victim with an altered mental state).I have yet to deduce how Madeleine was killed, however there is some sensitivity surrounding windows (open, shut, curtains blowing) although as Peter said this could simply be due to the "storytelling" of the mother attempting to paint a picture of "abduction". Did she fall out of a window, pushed out of window? I dont think so. I think the Dad harmed her during one of the every half hour checks on the kids, probably molested her and killed her. It could explain his vivid recall of how far the table was awayfrom the hotel room, as, if he killed her, he would be counting every step he took back to the table bc he would not want to be seen near the hotel room after he had killed Madeleinr. He would want to be back sitting at the table ASAP appearing "normal, innocent and not responsible fir what had been done to Madeleine".
Thank you, Peter. I was totally engaged in all three videos. You have expressed very clearly what some of us have been saying for years now and your analysis is clear and razor sharp in my opinion. I am looking forward to what comes out of the meeting of analysts next week.
The Dad strikes me as being a total perv. I am coming to this case cold and have not watched Peters 3rd video yet. There is something surrounding "the table"...I cant put my finger on it. Something at the table. Did he surreptitiously communicate with someone at the table? The table is very important to him.With the Mom: The "door slamming" has importance. Was the door slammed in her face by the father? Did the Mom attempt to walk in and unbeknownest to her the Dad was harming Madeleine, so she decides to go back and check on the kids after he had slammed door in her face?
This case study is fantastic! One thing that jumped out at me that you did not address is the order of events that Kate describes, before finding Madeleine missing. She was in their rental to check on the children, but she says she went to shut the door before ever looking in on them. Then the door slams, she opens it and ultimately reveals Madeleine was missing. It is such an odd sequence. I suppose if she had gone and checked the children like she was there to do, she would have missed her immediately, and missed all the drama of the reveal.
I noticed that too, it was like she was there to check on the kids but then only did so after the door window story. It's probably just a weird order because it's all made up storytelling.I also thought it was strange for her to say Mad was cuddled up on her KNEE. I don't think it could be rigor mortis as it was too soon, and plus this from wiki:Rigor mortis may not be perceivable in many infant and child corpses due to their smaller muscle mass.
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