Thursday, February 23, 2017

Murder of Amanda Blackburn Crime Wire

Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn 


February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.  

Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made. 

Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years. 

Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.  

Imagine Publicity Blog  :  broadcast of the show on Madeleine McCann 2016.  

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Anonymous said...

Perry Noble done trouble. Police officers scanned him. They scanned Davey while wearing peacock blue. Law enforcement circled them and did a peacock dance.

Reno 911 said...

I think you mean to say Perry was uncooperative with law enforcement's efforts to do a truth scan on him after they encircled him and asked him politely if they could investigate his very thoughts.

Hey Jude said...

Those are good questions, Bobcat.

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Why is that poster so desperate to have been doxxed?

Bobcat said...

Angry Anon/Me2l/Brenda/(I'm Davey) are used to belittling verbal abuse without pushback.

The noting of coincidental word relationships to Blackburn family members appears to have angered the beast.

Now, IF the noted coincidental word relationships are actually indicative of a Blackburn family member, the verbally abusive language could explain some childhood trauma.

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Who hurt you?

Anonymous said...

DB was "Live" with Zach today. I can't stomach it right now.

https://www.facebook.com/blackburndavey/videos/1485368834808835/

Trudy said...

Thanks anon @ 6:34

What a liar Davey Blackburn is. He's rewriting his story to include feeling a loss of faith in God. Obviously he thinks it adds some saleable dimension to his story. Too bad it's not true. Those of us who have been observing his post crime behaviour know that his reaction to Amanda's murder was unmitigated joy. Look at the testimonies of PN and Davey's cousin, to name two. They couldn't believe how strong he was in his faith. How joyful. Remember the "peace that surpasses all understanding"? Remember all the "best is yet to come" nothing is wasted" rubbish that he spewed all over the media and in sermons? Does that sound like someone whose faith was shaken? NO.

Does he think people have forgotten his unseemly delight in the days and weeks following Amanda's murder? Apparently so.


Bobcat said...

Davey says he felt a loss of faith?

11/11/2015 The day they "pulled the plug"
"As deeply as I am hurting I am hopeful and confident that good things will come of this. I rest in the truth of Romans 8:28 that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and who are called according to His purpose. ... I hold firm to the belief that God is still good, that He takes our tragedy and turns it into triumph, and that the best truly is yet to come."
http://resonateindianapolis.com/2015/11/statement-from-davey-blackburn/

11/12/2015 The day Amanda was officially declared dead after organ donation. Getting T-shirts ready in time to SELL at her "CELEBRATION".
"I felt sorrow for my cousin. However, when I arrived at my grandparents house I was met by an unbelievable force. Hope. My cousin, Davey Blackburn, was a rock of hope and inspiration of joy. Everyone would have understood if he was angry or depressed during this dark time, but he wasn't. When I arrived he immediately gave me a huge hug and asked how I was. His focus was not driven by anger but by complete, life-giving hope."
https://web.archive.org/web/20160421234953/http://www.fabricd.com/blog/hope-forindy-nothing-is-wasted

11/13/2015
Perry Noble said he’s been in daily contact with Davey since the tragedy and marvels at how Davey is handling the loss. "Davey's faith is so strong, that I haven't said anything to him, he's encouraged me. It really is... the only way Davey can react the way he is reacting is because Jesus Christ is living in him."
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/30508886/newspring-pastor-perry-noble-reflects-on-amanda-blackburns-death

11/17 and 11/19
Davey provided FOUR smiling national TV interviews.

11/23/2015
"Choosing to let my emotions drive my decisions is recipe for a hopeless and fruitless life. Today I am deciding to love, not hate. Today I am deciding to extend forgiveness, not bitterness. Today I am deciding to hope, not despair. By Jesus' power at work within us, the best is STILL yet to come."
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1261346237224455

12/7/2015
"I wanted everybody t-, to watch a message that has really, um, I think that God has used to prepare my heart for this leading up to uh, Amanda’s death, and has used, God’s used this to um, to help comfort my heart in all of this process. And it’s a, it’s a message that I posted a, a couple days ago on my, uh, social media feed, um, by Levi Lusko called Through the Eyes of a Lion."
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/resonate-church-through-the-eyes-of-a-lion/

Anonymous said...

Crazy Davey never misses an opportunity to pee on people's legs and tell them "it's raining".

Reno911 said...

I'm sure the gays he hangs with don't mind.

Anonymous said...

Is this how DAvey "pours out" to others on his vacations?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etyH2OUxVuQ

Trudy said...

I haven't watched the clip but speaking of vacations, Davey just said that he is planning one with Amber and Gavin for after the trial.

Another one. Anyone keeping a tally? I've lost count. Davey Blackburn - Work shy blow hard.

Anonymous said...

You have to watch the clip--you will laugh

Trudy said...

Now Davey is repeating that Amanda's murder couldn't have happened at a better time for Weston. Smh. I wonder if it could have happened at a better time for Evie or Amanda. God, he's vile.

Trudy said...

Davey STILL expresses outrage and disbelief that people can be so insensitive as to question his version of events, but expresses zero outrage and disbelief that gang members entered his home and murdered his pregnant wife. (He wants to intersect [sic] them and build them a youth center.)

The misdirected rage from Davey at those who question him, versus the sympathy and forgiveness he offers the alleged perpetrators of his wife's murder, is an accurate indicator of his guilt, IMO.

Anonymous said...

Davey's revival is happening, y'all. His half hour q and a with ZW got 49 likes.

Trudy said...

Oh I forgot to say Thanks Bobcat. Those are quotes I was referring to.



Anonymous said...

Trudy at 12:09.

So insensitive. So insensitive. He's doing the typical pity play. He showed zero sensitivity to Amanda when he said things went "over her head" and she wasn't "well read".

I transcribed most of it here:

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/3142017-facebook-live.html

Anonymous said...

"I'm terrified when he goes to school and uh, and he starts hearing all these other things from people 'cause man guys, people are just so insensitive. They're so insensitive. It's unbelievable to me. I mean, unbelievable to me, that people can be that insensitive, over a tragedy, that has happened in someone's life.

And I, and, and, and I've had to work through this a lot.

I talk about [unintelligible] you know, a little bit, but it's like, you just hope and pray, for their sake, they don't have to go through something like this. You just hope and pray. Because if they knew the hurt, that is in our hearts, and that was in our hearts when they began to heap more and more hurt with their words and their conspiracies and that. I mean, you're just like, man if you just knew how insensitive that is, and um, and, and I know that that's gonna happen with Weston, so, some level I'm trying to protect him from that but on some level I'm also trying to help him walk through it and say 'Man, um, you know people suck. People suck, but, but god's called us to serve people with our lives.' And people really sucked when they put Jesus on the cross too. But Jesus still went to the cross."

Anonymous said...

Mr. Sensitive calls Weston a "Selfish Little Brat".

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/03/blood-week-4-easter-sunday-3272016-it.html

Anonymous said...

HOpe and pray for Larry Taylor, jalen Watson and Diano Gordon, for their sake, that they don't have to go through "something like this. If they only knew how insensitive it was to murder a pregnant woman in her own home. You'd best protect Weston from people like that, Davey, And people like you.

Bingo said...

OK, CD, let's talk insensitive, Davey! How about posting a gun sermon portraying someone getting shot in the back and discussing someone getting their teeth knocked out 4 days after you bury your wife who was shot in the back and teeth knocked out! He is laughable with the insensitive talk and that people suck. Also, how insensitive was he to walk out the door on a cold winter morning leaving his family vulnerable with an unlocked door! I really wanted to get on there and ask him why he doesn't try to promote safety issues. He is planning on writing a manual for grieving. How about a manual about home safety. He never addresses the issues that people question. He knows he has plenty of gullible people in his audience.

Bingo said...

Justification anyone?

About 15 minutes in:
Even some of our greatest tragedies is a great act of goodness. That’s loaded that’s loaded and I could write a whole book on why even the greatest tragedies and pains we go through in our life is actually God’s goodness. Would anybody argue that Amanda is not having a great time? She’s in heaven with Jesus in peace, loving every minute of it. Nobody has ever gone to heaven and longed to be back on earth. Nobody. Nobody. That can sound weird and insensitive but can I tell you something that gives me hope.

Bingo said...

Bobcat, the that's loaded, that's loaded. Does that have SA significance?

Bobcat said...

Bingo,

I'm not an expert. It could be leakage.

Amanda's greatest tragedy involved a loaded gun.

But it was an act of goodness because she is in heaven "having a great time".

"That can sound weird and insensitive but can I tell you something that gives me hope."

cucumber sandwich said...

Lol, Bingo, why are you asking boobcat? All she does is bold words she "thinks" have significance but gives no SA explanation. Do you think she's some SA guru? Why don't you ask an actual expert? Ridiculous.

cucumber sandwich said...

And, lol, she just did exactly that while I was commenting.... Bolded the word "insensitive." No explanation. Painfully predictable.

Bingo said...

Bobcat, I wouldn't even notice it if there had been so many similar things DB has said in regard to things that could relate to guns. I need to look back but there have probs been dozens. The biggest I guess would be shooting a guy on stage right before AB was shot. sigh

Bobcat said...


"I'm terrifiedwhen he goes to school and uh, and he starts hearing all these other things from people 'cause man guys, people are just so insensitive. They're so insensitive. It's unbelievable to me. I mean, unbelievable to me, that people can be that insensitive, over a tragedy, that has happened in someone's life.

And I, and, and, and I've had to work through this a lot.

I talk about [unintelligible] you know, a little bit, but it's like, you just hope and pray, for their sake, they don't have to go through something like this. You just hope and pray. Because if they knew the hurt, that is in our hearts, and that was in our hearts when they began to heap more and more hurt with their words and their conspiracies and that. I mean, you're just like, man if you just knew how insensitive that is, and um, and, and I know that that's gonna happen with Weston, so, some level I'm trying to protect him from that but on some level I'm also trying to help him walk through it and say 'Man, um, you know people suck. People suck, but, but god's called us to serve people with our lives.' And people really sucked when they put Jesus on the cross too. But Jesus still went to the cross."

Anonymous said...

Bobcat @ 5:17 (with the faulty spacing and random bolded words from a previous post) was not the official Bobcat.

From now on, I will log in to post.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etyH2OUxVuQ

Close...

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/03/blood-week-4-easter-sunday-3272016-it.html

"I was talking to a guy just this, this past week, and I ran into him after doing a, a training run down in, in Tampa, and he just happened to be sitting there in the parking lot, and, and he starts striking up a conversation with me after he finds out, finds out that I’m a pastor, which I’m like, “Oh, dear God.” Every time somebody strikes up a conversation with me, starts finding out I’m a pastor, star- ask, asking a lot of questions, I usually go into something really, really, really weird.

But, this is what he said. He said “I believe. I believe in Jesus, but I believe he was just a good teacher.” ... That’s a lot of people’s rebuttal against the resurrection. In fact, when I was standing there with this man this week, that was one of his, biggest, rebuttals.


https://cruisinggaycom.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/a-sex-stop-on-the-way-home/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rebuttal&defid=3530871
http://www.cruisinggays.com/ft-myers/areas/21699-bowditch-park/

DaveyonRollerSkates said...

Was Davey wearing green terry cloth shorts when he spoke his "rebuttal"?

Bobcat said...

"And people really sucked when they put Jesus on the cross too. But Jesus still went to the cross."


Clearly he's gay for Jesus.

(Someone hurt me.)

Anonymous said...

Did Davey ever substitute teach/coach at Speedway Junior High (5 miles from Sunnyfield Court)?

https://www.facebook.com/blackburndavey/videos/1485368834808835/?comment_id=1485389031473482&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D

Katie Burley: "I don't have a question but I have a different perspective on this situation. First thank you for sharing your love for Jesus to the world and to your son through such tragedy. My husband and I are junior high teachers from Speedway, In and the morning we heard who was identified as the person that committed this crime-our world changed. We actually taught this young man in junior high school and my husband [Dan Grill] was his bball [baseball or basketball?] coach. We knew then he was in a gang and tried what we could to help change his life. It is devastating to know personally someone so evil. It has been hard dealing with this and looking back wondering what we could have done differently or what more could have been done. I realize through your testimony we cannot focus on the past but do more to change the lives of those in front of us now. Thanks again for your courage."
March 14 at 3:09pm

Trudy said...

Five. No. Seven.

Trudy said...

Twenty eight.

Anonymous said...

More or less

Anonymous said...

Matthew 5:44

Bingo said...

Davey is posting a lot about his own journals lately. He is so obvious! HA! Next book. I think he would much rather write a book about his own journals than AB's. After all, he is the heroic one in all of this. Amanda just gets to drink pina coladas and hang out with Jesus all day while he is down here grieving "the loss".

Trudy said...

Davey had delusions of being an author before Amanda's murder. One of her journal entries says [what] " if Davey never gets to publish his book, will you be enough?"
Also, prior to the murders, he spent all day Tuesdays, writing. If his "writing" is anything like his sermons you can imagine what a cluster f of lies, contradictions, bad advice and banality, it is. The discovery of yet another one of Amanda's journals filled with letters to Davey was badly staged. In the days following Amanda's murder, Davey rifled through and read Amanda's journals, sharing her intimate thoughts with strangers in the media. He has threatened on numerous occasions to publish Amanda's journals. Make no mistake. With a cynical eye to the future, he pored over and stored Amanda's journals, for future publication and profit. I really doubt that a stray journal, magically containing letters written directly to Davey, was discovered while cleaning out the garage. Just the sort of journal that might make sales. I wonder if the publishing company suggested it?


Anonymous said...

When Davey and Amanda moved to Indianapolis, Megs (who was Daveys intern at Newspring) wrote that for the first time in five years she didn't have any direction. She knew the phrase "nothing is wasted" would be significant in her life and painted "best is yet to come" on bits of wood, for her folky artsy shop, (a business similar to Amanda's )

She followed Davey and Amanda from SC to Indianapolis. Megs slept on their lounge, took care of Weston, professed to love the family dog and generally instagrammed about enjoying being part of the Blackburn household.

Then Megs moved out.

A few weeks later Amanda was murdered a few feet away from where Megs had slept.

Now Megs is (again) living with Amanda's husband, being paid as his assistant, working closely and travelling with him. Megs is raising Amanda's son. Megs is BFFs with Amanda's BFF. She can't believe her luck. She's living Amanda's life. I wonder what the bakers dozen would make of Megs. It seems that sometimes people are just that lucky.

Anonymous said...

And Megs only intended to stay for 4-5 months, when she followed Davey and Amanda thousands of miles to Indianapolis.

Now it looks like she's here for good.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm. I did a little bit of research on lions to establish the value and veracity of the advice of Lusko and Blackburn to "Run towards the roar". I can't find anything that supports the contention that male and female lions work cooperatively to ambush prey. Nothing. Nada. Lions and lionesses do not hunt together. Lusko and Blackburn are either mistaken or lion.

Anonymous said...

When I watched the fb interview, I got the distinct impression that ZW was a bit shellshocked. Megs seemed v. busy censoring questions and comments and the questions and comments that DID get through were artificial and contrived. (Made up by Meg?)

In light of daveys terror that Weston will some day be exposed to the unbelievable insensitivity of some people (commenters?), I wonder just how many people out there in internet land are suspicious of Davey.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure it doesn't occur to the very small number of commenters here who are convinced Davey murdered his wife that the overwhelming majority of people..,those who know Davey, and those who don't....do not consider him a suspect.

Anonymous said...

Then why is Davey so 'terrified' of what Weston will read on the internet? What unbelievable insensitivity is Weston going to be exposed to?I guess he's terrified that Weston will read that the overwhelming majority of people do not consider Davey a suspect. Yeah. That must be it. I'll take another guess and say that you didn't listen to the q and a on Facebook. Quelle surprise.

Anonymous said...

@10:52, take a look at the comments under any YouTube posting featuring Davey Blackburn. Then come back here and tell us what the overwhelming majority of commenters think.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

RE: Anonymous March 17, 2016 @ 10:31 PM- Not sure what ZW was expecting, but he did look shell-shocked. That wasn't a Q & A with Z Woolie, it was the Davey Blackburn show. Z Woolie could hardly get a word in edgewise. It was really awkward, with him looking totally bored and emotionally flat. Davey steamrolled over him repeatedly- there was no concept of shared air time or any semblance of discussion. It was reminiscent of the Love Song Q & A's with Amanda, in that Davey repeatedly dominated the conversation. Z Woolie was merely there to read the questions.

This was blatantly staged, giving Davey a public platform to reinforce that: God took Amanda, Amanda & the baby dying brutally was a good thing, Amanda dying when she did was the best thing for Weston, anyone not buying his story and questioning him was so "insensitive"/mean; Davey is the victim (not Amanda, not the baby, not Weston) of other people's "insensitive" comments, Resonate IS growing (even though it's 5yrs old and still less than 100 people), He and Resonate are FOR INDY, and he's a world-wide evangelist with "My story"-"Amanda's story"-"My story". He also staged this to address the questioning and doubters that won't go away (they're "insensitive"), as well as his future plans. He claims he'll continue to pastor Resonate and he/they are working on building a Youth Center. Time will tell.

Note: Meg got a complementary mention from Davey. As the story goes, she was worried Weston might grow up with a skewed idea of God, so she gave Davey some "good" parenting/spiritual advice that he appreciated.

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Anonymous said...

If DB would give an honest accounting of his activities on 11/9 and 11/10/2015, and accept appropriate justice for his actions (including opening his history making prison ministry), I will delete my blog and Deception Indicated facebook pages.

If he really wants to break the cycle of bitterness, resentment, hatred, and evil from making a permanent impact (considering it may be too late) on Weston's life, he might consider unselfishly removing himself from Weston's life entirely. Weston is still young, and there couldn't be a better time in his life for Davey to go away, so Weston can forget him.

Let him be raised unaware. That would break the cycle and be the greatest gift Davey could give him.

IMHO

flightfulbird said...

If DB would give an honest accounting of his activities on 11/9 and 11/10/2015....

^^ THIS ^^ has been my problem the whole time. Davey is so wounded that the "unfriendlies" suspect him, accuse him, whatever.

He is such a pitiful little martyr - poor me, I lost my wife (although this was the best time for Weston to lose his mom) and people are so insensitive to even remotely question the fact that the husband who didn't want another child and who would do anything to slingshot his ministry might have had something to do with it.

Maybe it was more than true when the Resonate Facebook page said "we'll do whatever it takes to connect people to life change" - does that stretch as far as sacrificing your wife, presenting her to the Father holy and blameless?

All this time Davey has had multiple chances to clear things up, account for his actions, be transparent and say things that make sense to untangle what is, right now, a web of lies.

He has not.

Instead, his stories do not match what he said that morning - the more he talks, the more inconsistencies are revealed. The coverup cannot last forever - something will slip, something major, and someone will notice and that will be the end of the charade. For now, Davey or whoever is reading here who reports to Davey - there is a way to squash all of this speculation (although it will be less effective now than it would've been a year and four months ago) - just tell the truth.

Nobody really believes you had no idea anyone had been in your house - as many times as you've said it - or that honestly your first thought was that something had gone horrifically wrong with, uh, the pregnancy - just as much as I and others don't believe you needed an hour and forty minutes in your house on November 10th to head out for a workout after you woke up.

Answering the list of questions written by another poster submitted to the Facebook live appearance (which were ignored) would be a good start. To that I would add, where was Mel that whole morning, especially during the time that the furniture was being turned over and your wife was being assaulted and shot?

flightfulbird said...

And yes to the thousandth about Davey removing himself from Weston's life. If Weston wouldn't remember losing his mom - as Davey so helpfully blogged - then with Davey's logic, he's still young enough that losing his dad wouldn't cause irreparable damage either ?

It would be less traumatic for that to happen now - compared to if Weston is five or six - and he has to see his daddy (who jumped on airplanes once in a while with him and took him to Disney World and the beach and all of those fun places that they can go to because mommy died) arrested for planning and/or executing his mommy's murder.

Anonymous said...



Create a fake scenario....fiction writing..... Based upon nothing but SA, which, in this case, is not taken from anything "analyzable", then continue a months-long discussion that isn't connected to facts. Assume your fake tales are true, leading to conclusions such as frightful up there has done.

Davey is not going to be arrested. Weston is not going to be fatherless.

Delusional

flightfulbird said...

Anon at 6:49pm (or anyone else who might care to give it a shot) -

Can you explain Davey's changing renditions / stories of what he saw, felt and thought on the morning of November 10th ?

Can you explain why Davey would need to change from what he initially saw, felt and thought and told the detective (Perkins) at Methodist Hospital?

Can you answer ANY of the questions I and others have raised on this and other boards over the course of the last year and four months?

Whoever wrote upthread that if one was to read the comments below the YouTube videos or web write-ups discussing this case - from the very beginning - there are so many across the nation. . . um, errr, even across the world (!) who see a problem with Davey's words and actions surrounding and since Amanda's murder and therefore see him as a suspect. It's not just here.

Anonymous said...

Again....the "changing stories" fiction writing. Can you tell me what those changing stories are? Can you tell me why, if DB has changed his stories, LE has not deemed it suspicious? Worthy of investigation? Oh wait, maybe they have investigated, receiving the answers they need.

Wow. That would groundbreaking--LE investigating and getting to the bottom of the case with REAL FACTS, not FAKE FACTS that are popular and relied upon here.

Trudy said...

Hi all,

I like that 6:49 is reigning herself in, and modifying her comments so they don't get deleted. She's not totally housebroken, though, so expect a few little accidents here and there.

It's quite good advice to have a look at the comments on you tube under anything with Davey Blackburn in it, @6:49. It requires a modicum of reading and comprehension, but it might help you understand the general public's perception Davey Blackburn, and give you another forum in which to express your frustration and contempt for those who are suspicious of him.

Trudy said...

8:11. The changing stories have been documented many times. Here's the thing. You have to actually listen to/read Davey blackburns pre crime and post crime sermons, blogs, and media interviews for yourself and compare them. You have to read the APC again. And if you think that LE hasn't got one suspicious eye on DB, you're delusional.

Anonymous said...

Well, if LE has a suspicious eye on Davey, it's even more significant--that he is still walking around a free man. Or are you suggesting that LE would willingly ignore evidence and let a murderer remain loose and free to kill again? You sheep here have even suggested DB might harm Weston. How evil and corrupt it is of LE to allow even the possibility.

Come on, LE, use your evidence that the sleuths here are so sure you have.

Trudy said...

Indeed. I agree 9:17. Let's not have another Josh Powell.

Trudy said...

And don't call people "sheep". It hurts so baaaaaaaad.

Anonymous said...

Sheep isn't a bad name, nor is it meant to make you feel baaaaaad. In this case, it's a descriptive word.

Trudy said...

9:44.pm. Deception indicated.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone here on this thread thought of entering intensive psychoanalysis?

flightdfulbird said...

...he is still walking around a free man. Or are you suggesting that LE would willingly ignore evidence and let a murderer remain loose and free to kill again?

LE does not consider Davey to be a danger to the public at large - whether or not he is a murderer. Davey does not appear to be someone who will kill at random.

This was up close and personal between him and Amanda - whether or not he had anything to do with her death remains to be seen but her sure has reaped the benefits of it - both monetarily as well as in a "freedom-gaining", lifestyle-changing way.

Peter's detectives said "nobody is this lucky" - but I've said before that IF Davey didn't have anything to do with Amanda's murder, this was like hitting the jackpot for him. He is free from his "not well-read, well-traveled or well to do", computer illiterate, grill-denting, Caramello-stealing wife - with things going over her head - who he says didn't meet his sex needs - the wife who (gently but firmly) called him out for lying in the Love Song Q&A Week Six appearance.

The life insurance payout was substantial. And he hasn't been one bit shy about having the money - he flaunts his wealth - his numerous expensive trips, his shoes (with Weston's shoes matching his), his photo shoots, his house with the humblebrag showing the pool, his Crossfit membership. This from a guy who sold T shirts to benefit The Blackburn Family and had a link on the Resonate website to donate as well.

How many people gave to that fund ? - thinking poor Weston would be needing a babysitter and clothes and money for college.

Anonymous said...

10:08. I have doubts about the value and efficacy of psychoanalysis, but if you want to talk to a stranger about how your mummy breast fed you till you were 8 and locked you in a cupboard during school holidays, go for it!

Anonymous said...

Davey to be a danger to the public at large - whether or not he is a murderer. Davey does not appear to be someone who will kill at random.





You people are ridiculous, and you watch too much TV.

If LE had evidence linking Davey to his wife's murder, he would be arrested. Just face it, they have NO evidence. No one here does, either, except for what you imagine and gave persuaded yourselves is true.

What about the idea here that Davey is a danger to Weston? Is LE oblivious to that, too?

flightfulbird said...

That whole Disney World exhibition / blog post with all of the videos embedded - looked to be a "see how great a dad/single parent I am to little Weston" photo op - SO much need to persuade.

Narcissistic to the core too, thinking anyone besides grandparents and Amber/family (and of course Ashley and Megs) would want to watch so many videos of Weston. At least he wasn't cooing (softly) in any of them.

Anonymous said...

10:08, Is that why you have such an aversion to milk?

Trudy said...

10:40. Susan Powell was murdered by her husband, Josh Powell. He was never charged.

He had custody of their children for three years.

Please stop insisting that Davey would be arrested if LE had evidence linking him to Amanda's murder. You have to understand the difference between evidence and proof.

There is circumstantial evidence in this case. There is no direct/physical evidence. There is no proof. Its the same in the Powell case, there was evidence linking Josh to Susan's disappearance but no proof, hence, no arrest. (Josh's sister still claims Josh did not murder Susan, although Susan's case was closed after Josh murdered his children and committed suicide)

LE has no proof that Davey Blackburn had anything to do with the murder of his wife. That is true. But there is plenty of (circumstantial) evidence.

Trudy said...

Pogue mahone, Sinead. Your accent is terrible.

Trudy said...

pastor Davey Blackburn is a public figure. He espouses the view that wives should submit, sexually, to their husbands, when they don't want to. That is advocacy for rape within marriage, imo. What physical and psychological trauma will be experienced by those who listen to his lunacy?

The sex and violence that are ever- present in pastor daveys sermons should be a cause of concern for parents of resonaters.

TWICE I've heard him jokingly refer to popping a cap in the head of a resonate greeter and throwing the body in a dumpster.

Anonymous said...


Dictionary Definition:

Evidence
noun
1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"




Legal Deginition:

Criminal evidence means any exhibit or testimony presented in relation to a crime. It is evidence presented to prove a crime. Criminal evidence may be presented in different forms. Such evidences are used to establish crimes.

Before deciding a case, it is very important to ensure that the criminal evidence that is presented is legal and accurate. The requirements relating to a valid criminal evidence differs between legal systems. Generally, both direct and circumstantial evidences are presented before a jury.

Verbal or written testimony forms a major part of criminal evidence. Testimonies may come from many sources. It can come from principal parties such as the victim and the suspect, and also from parties who are not related to crimes, for example, experts. Physical criminal evidence may include things such as clothing, jewelry, weapons. It may also include DNA evidence such as saliva, nails, blood, hair, or bodily fluids. Physical evidence can be either direct or circumstantial, but always involves tangible objects.


Trudy said:
Please stop insisting that Davey would be arrested if LE had evidence linking him to Amanda's murder. You have to understand the difference between evidence and proof.

Ok, Trudy, there you go again. LE had no evidence to arrest Josh Powell. In fact, DNA was not a match. Now, mind you, there were more "clues" pointing to him as the murderer of his wife than there is of DB murdering HIS wife.

Likewise, there is no evidence connecting DB to Amanda's murder, so I will continue to point out to you do-it-yourself sleuths how delusional you really are.

Please study and understand the definition of evidence.

Anonymous said...

Flightfulbird 10:49pm,

Davey is a strategist. He has got lots of people running interference for him.

Weston is his shield against criticism. If you criticise Davey, you are hurting Weston. If you do so much as to even discuss Amanda's murder, you are hurting Weston.

It's a cowardly tactic.

Back on track, Davey blackburns trip to Israel, NASCAR, cubs games, golf island beach holidays without Weston are forgotten, he's taking Weston to Disneyland and making memories.

Trudy said...

Flightful, that was me. I've been posting as anon of and on. :)

Anonymous said...


Trudy said...
Haha. You still don't get it. There is evidence that points to daveys guilt. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt. (Yet)) there is no proof. Again. I'm agreeing with you. There is evidence - but no proof - in the either the Amanda Blackburn murder or the Susan Powell murder - that their husbands did it.





Trudy.....I have always said, and I will repeat: LE has NO evidence linking DB to the murder of his wife.

You're a riot. Now, you're "agreeing" with me. Riiiiight. You're re-writing yourself.

There are no similarities between Josh Powell and DB and their wive's murders. Well, that's the only similarity--their wives were murdered. But where LE always suspected Josh, there was no proof. LE cleared DB, whether or not you like that and practice denial daily. If LE had evidence linking DB to the murder of his wife, they would arrest him.

State this "evidence" you refer to -- evidence that LE (not fiction writers here) think links DB to the murder of his wife. What evidence does LE have?

Now.......read and understand what EVIDENCE is. You are completely missing the point while backtracking and re-stating yourself to fit the facts, similar to something I read regarding an SA practitioner.

I'm sure this won't remain here, but rather interesting:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?229123-Amanda-Knox-tried-for-the-murder-of-Meredith-Kercher-in-Italy-*NEW-TRIAL*-10/page36


Anonymous said...

Someone will talk in this case. They always do.

Anonymous said...

Linking. Links.

Davey
Treezy
Alonzo
Taylor, Gordon, Watson

Anonymous said...

I bet LE has evidence linking DB to the sexual abuse of Amanda.

Anonymous said...

I bet LE has evidence linking Amanda's death to alien activity.

Anonymous said...

Truth needs no defending.

Anonymous said...

"Why is that poster so desperate to have been doxxed?"

Hmmmm...

It may have something to do with the profile photo that was used.
Was it a fake model, or a real person?
Is the real person connected to DB?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Crazy Davey never misses an opportunity to pee on people's legs and tell them "it's raining".
March 14, 2017 at 10:34 PM

The circle is getting smaller of those who will stand up for Davey.

Weston/fatherhood is his last pity ploy.

Trudy said...


You keep repeating yourself and you are wrong. Please try to understand. It is simple. There are different types of evidence. Evidence is not proof. You are unwilling or unable to understand accept that fact. Which is it? Unwilling or unable? Evidence is not proof. And absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Educate yourself.

LE has evidence linking Davey and Josh to the murder of their wives. They have no proof. (I'll grant the evidence is stronger in Josh Powell case..but still...no proof). Do you understand now?

There was evidence that Josh was involved with Susan's disappearance, but not enough evidence and certainly no proof. So even though the police (and many others) may have had their suspicions that Josh was involved in his wife's disappearance they did not arrest him. That's the point. It's not that police "willingly ignored evidence and let a muderer remain loose and free to kill again" (which he did) unfortunately, they had insufficient evidence to arrest him at the time of Susan's murder so he remained free, for three years, to kill again. Your assertion that there is no evidence against Blackburn is ludicrous. What you mean is, there is no proof. I agree. There is no proof.

flightfclbird said...

Anonymous said...
I bet LE has evidence linking DB to the sexual abuse of Amanda.

March 19, 2017 at 12:07 PM



I think so too - because they at first said it was sexual assault along with murder and then backtracked and said Amanda hadn't been sexually assaulted after all.

I am using the term "sexually assaulted" in this post to mean "rape" - and not the pulling up of Amanda's shirt and removing underwear which is also, without consent, obviously sexual assault (and could also be staging in this case). . .

I think they found something that indicated unwilling (I am not sure if that is the right word) participation - trauma / injury of some sort ? - but then found coexisting DNA from Davey so they they thought ok, "expected" for a husband's DNA to be present.

IF the thugs' DNA was present in such a situation, wouldn't they have already also been charged with rape / sexual assault as well as murder?

There is SO much more to this case than meets the eye and obviously way more than some want discovered.

Trudy said...

Anon @ 6:13. You are very disrespectful and rude to post that link, here. I take issue with your tone which insinuates you are somehow being persecuted or victimised if your insulting post is removed. I hope you are correct in supposing that it " won't remain here" and I sincerely hope you won't either! Unbelievable.

Trudy said...

Who do you think you are posting a link containing derogatory comments about Peter Hyatt? Gtfo.

Bingo said...

What is unusual about this case is the robbery before the Blackburn house. If the Blackburn house had been the only house robbed, then it would be so obvious that it was a hired hit. Davey planned this out very carefully making it very hard to trace it to him. I wonder how much Alonzo knew? How far above him did it go? I agree sexual assault thing is fishy. They said she was sexually assaulted but the thugs were never charged with this crime. What did they find? There is so much more to this.

Bingo said...

Also that FB live thing was just weird. I agree with a poster here that the friend interviewing him was a little disturbed about what Davey was saying. I love that Watchkeep asked the hard questions. Davey has to know as he moves forward with his revival of epic proportions (aka fame and fortune) he needs to know that he is going to be hit with very hard questions and reactions. You can look back at reactions to the GMA and Inside Edition interviews, 90% of the people who commented that hubby was involved. He is a creepy guy who dresses ridiculous. I just don't seeing him being accepted by the public at large as he promotes his book and album. He is way too off.

Anonymous said...

"Everyone" seems to think Davey was involved--except LE.

I bet you sleuths think LE is investigating Davey as a suspect but keeping it a secret from you.


LOLOL

OR.... you see LE as a bunch of blundering, clueless incompetents who may "never 'solve' the case." Solving, of course, means that your crazy theories are right, and if that is never proven (in fact, if it is DISproven), then LE just couldn't or wouldn't "solve" the case.

Nice, delusional way to always be right. I suppose, that way, you can claim a 100% accuracy rate.

Anonymous said...

LE is in no rush. They got the thugs that actually murdered Amanda off the streets, so their is no public outcry to hurry up an arrest someone. I do believe LE is definitely aware of the strange coincidences that seem to implicate Davey but they are going to take their time and make sure that they have everything before they arrest him. And that means one of the thugs actually says they were instructed to drive to Davey's house. And it will happen. Watch.

Anonymous said...

Did it occur to you that these "strange coincidences" are not so strange to LE,, because they've investigated and know much more than you (think) you do? LE has probably cleared up every one of those "strange coincidences" independent of the sleuths and their limited knowledge here.

Anonymous said...

There is no statute of limitations on murder, Anonymous at 11:14 AM. Patience and time will reveal the truth. And all roads will lead back to one preacher obsessed with money and fame.

Anonymous said...

No, anon @11:28, all roads do not lead back to the pastor, as disgusting as he is. Only in the fiction writing here is that the case.

Trudy said...

I'm surprised Anon @4:08 has the nerve to remain here after posting a link to derogatory comments about Peter Hyatt. She should be banned from this site. I refuse to have anything further to do with her. She is a rude, ill bred uninformed fool. Why is she tolerated? Who behaves like that? She should apologise to Peter and remove that link. Nasty cow.

Anonymous said...

Do the roads lead to Meg?

Bingo said...

Trudy, the Anon on here needs to remember that Peter, after speaking to dozens of professional, seasoned investigators has not encountered one that doesn't think Crazy Davey is involved. They can make fun of us all day long but the pros have spoken and Davey was all up in this murder.

Concerned said...

Thank you to those who keep the conversation about Davey's guilt going here in
spite of our sad "anon" friend who tries to ridicule you for having an opinion while
expecting you to honor hers and just shut up.

Peter's years of study and expertise, as well as those of his colleagues, point
toward the expectation that Davey will be outed as having foreknowledge of the
break-in. This might take many years but will most likely happen.

I'll keep stopping in with hopes that you're still commenting. I want all those who
hear Davey's name to google and find you when he guns up publicity for his
pathetic "made-up-out-of-whole-cloth" book. And I want him to settle in with
Meg and the other roommates each evening to discover that you are unrelenting in
pointing out his lack of credentials to be a "pastor"/speaker/grief counselor.

I want Amanda's family and Weston and Davey's future (unfortunate) girlfriends to
google his name and see that there are people, many who are Christians, unconvinced
of his innocence.

Keep up the good work!!

Anonymous said...

Girlfriends? I thought he was gay?

Anonymous said...

Thank you Concerned.

I keep updating the timeline as more quotes and leaks come in.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

It will be interesting to see how Davey(coughcoughMeg)'s fiction writing matches up to all the story variations Davey has given.

I think Amber is tired of/done promoting Davey.

Anonymous said...

I think DAvey is gay, and I think Peter is right about how Davey talking constantly about how tempted he is by women proves that Davey is gay.

I have a friend who is gay but still in the closet, and I notice he does that on facebook...he will comment on certain women's pictures "Sexy!" but he is gay and told me that he doesn't want to be out of closet on facebook. He is a sweet and kind person, and I don't judge him for staying in the closet, as obviously it is a sensitive issue for him, but you can tell he makes these comments to try to cover-up the fact he is gay, like he feels he "should" make those comments. Unfortunately, I think there are one or two people he has made these comments to who think he likes them and they have crushes on him and will try to flirt with him on facebook and he will respond with "sexy as always". I feel bad for him but also feel a little bad for this one women who believes he's into her. He's not trying to be malevolent yet at what point should a person just come out of the closet and stop pretending to be straight when they are not? This guy is GAY, he has confided that info to me, and I would never tell anyone. I don't judge him for staying in the closet, but at the same time, if someone's gay they are gay. HOw long can they live a lie? They should just be honest imo.

Anonymous said...

Also the pictures this guy comments "Sexy!" on on fb are not sexy pictures, they are pictures of the women wearing casual clothes like sweatpants and a t-shirt just sitting in a chair like eating breakfast or something.

I think it is sad. If someone's gay, just be gay. But yes, making comments like Davey at the gym like oh my God someone wearing spandex pants he can't control himself it's like the same thing like overcompensation like trying to convince people he is straight.

There is another guy I knew and I was friends with him and he was always checking out women like all the time and making a show of it like "whoah did you see her!", 10 minutes later "oh look at her! Wow! She's hot!" and I swear he's gay even though he's married. He is super metro-sexual looking, not a hair out of place, impeccably groomed and his wife looks absolutely miserable. I think he also recently moved thousands of miles away from his wife to the San Francisco area for a job and told his wife he would send for her and his kid. I would bet $1,000 he's gay. HIs poor poor wife.
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Anonymous said...

I mean, I do understand the hesitance of the sweet and kind guy to come out of the closet--he is just sensitive and embarrassed about the fact he is gay, and he has never had a fake relationship with a woman to cover his gayness.

But the other married one I feel is a dirtbag. His poor wife looks so miserable, and I feel due to her religion, she probably has no experience with men before him to realize this guy is friggin gay. She knows though deep down. But she's trapped now. I'm sure he'll drag her through years more of misery before she finally frees herself.

Anonymous said...

Which direction do Davey's hair whirls go in? They have proven gay men's hair whirls go counter-clockwise.

Anonymous said...

If you look at Davey in the video above, look at his gelled hair. The hair seems to naturally go to the right (looking head on at him). Wouldn't that mean, if he washed the gel out, his hair would be whirling counter-clockwise?

Anonymous said...

Transcription of 12Stone church 12/18/2016.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/12182016-12stone-church.html

Kevin Myers reminds me of Davey's father. He sounds like he preaching to an audience of second graders. Shoot me now. (Terrible humor, I know. Too soon?)

Poor Amanda.

Trudy said...

Fact, I I spent quite a bit of time with him, kind of in a mentoring relationship, hoping maybe even someday it seemed that we, we might be "able to do ministry together down the road and he might be among us ...."


Hoping, maybe, someday, it seemed that, we might. Hahaha. Guess who definitely didn't want to do ministry with crazy Davey.

Trudy said...

Bobcat. Thank you. Watching Daveys account of the morning Amanda was murdered, adapt evolve and change is fascinating.

Check out Bobcat's blog, everyone. Wow. There's lots to discuss!

Trudy said...

Did you guys know that Davey was frustrated with himself that morning because he failed to bring the stuff he needed to shower at the gym? Yep. Up at 4:30, didn't leave until after 6:10 and somehow forgot to pack a towel for this typical normal Tuesday morning.

Hes said before that he usually spent all day Tuesday writing - now he says - he had to go home me to shower before going to WORK. Where the hell did he work? If he's writing all day why didn't he do it from home? Work? That's a new one.

He finally admits he didn't check on Weston.

He says after he called 911 he cradled Amada. No mention of ringing his dad.

He's sticking to the story that he didn't know Amanda had been shot, despite being RIGHT THERE with paramedics while they tended her and must have SEEN and HEARD them discussing her injuries and calling the police. It's impossible he was unaware she'd been shot.

Trudy said...

I've often wondered, too, what did Davey expect to find when he walked in to his home? If "normal" for Davey at 8:20am on any given morning is that Amanda would be tending to Weston - feeding, bathing, dressing, - why would he assume Weston was still in his crib on THAT morning? If Amanda had had a pregnancy mishap, it could easily have happened at 8:05, 8:10, or 8:15am, in other words, how did he know it didn't (just) happen WHILE she was tending Weston?

He couldn't. Yet, somehow he did.

Anonymous said...

Whatever Davey expected to find when he walked into his home, he sure as hell didn't expect to find Amanda "still breathing".

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Hazarding a guess here, but I think the "I forgot my towel" when he grabbed his bag and "needed to come home to shower before I left for work" were newly added details necessary to explain why he cut his usual workout short. The shortened workout and the extended Kenneth Wagner driveway conversation (while Amanda was bleeding out) must be dogging Davey. He's explaining these two details, unnecessarily, 16 months later? Why does it matter to "The Story"? It's not like they're crucial to "The Story", but it does matter to Davey. Does he need to explain why he took a shower at home before calling LE maybe? Does he need it to explain why "I called 911 as soon as I could"?

Davey previously stated he knelt by her side and held her hand. If Davey "cradled Amanda" as he's now asserting, he should have been covered in blood. There would have been no way to cradle her without getting messy himself. Given the Fire Dept's immediate call for police backup upon arrival, Amanda's extensive injuries, the statistical probability of domestic violence/murder by a spouse/partner, and Davey bloody from"cradling Amanda", he would have been immediately detained and interviewed at the scene, not 40-45 minutes(or more)later at the Hospital. Not buying this fifth revision of Amanda's Story-My Story-Our Story-The Story- Resonate's Story for Resonate's glory? After all, if Resonate wasn't such a mega church moving and shaking up all of Indy for God, Amanda wouldn't have been such a target for the devil and the poor misguided "guys" who killed her. SMH

flightfulbird said...

I would absolutely love to know how Davey looked when IFD Engine 12 arrived after he called 911 as soon as he could. What he was wearing - was he still in gym clothes ? - bloody gym clothes if he really in fact walked into his greatest nightmare and cared for his dying wife, cradling her.

He must have been cleaned up, for it does seem as though he would have been detained if he was covered in blood and IMPD had seen him. Then again, the APC says IMPD arrived as medics were carting Amanda Blackburn from the home - we don't know where Davey was at that time - just that the residence was cleared by officers and nobody else was found in the house except Weston.

So maybe IMPD never saw Davey - that would also be interesting to know.

There is no need for him to add these details NOW - about forgetting to put a a towel in his gym bag so there was no way he could shower at the gym - and repeating again that he was on the phone on the driveway - adding to the story this many months later - unless he is freaking out about details mentioned on this board and others - and in comment sections of videos and web write-ups - and trying to cover all of his bases like a good shortstop would.

I think "work" meant Starbucks . . . it's not like he had an office back then, I don't think (I don't' recall).

flightfiulbird said...

I mean, maybe IMPD never saw Davey at the house - the "crime scene which Davey had no idea was a crime scene" - because if they had seen him there, they would've also been curious as to why they weren't dispatched by 911 instead of being summoned to the scene by IFD Engine 12 (most likely as soon as they walked in the door and saw Amanda "in the condition she was in". . . )

Keep talking Davey - keep blogging - it really does appear that the more you talk and share what you honestly thought - and give explanations - explanations that are unwarranted and unnecessary, untrue and not corresponding to your original statements . . .

. . . the more you do this, the sooner everything is going to unravel.

Anonymous said...

In which direction does Davey's hair whirl?

Other weird thing, why is every guy I've ever known named Dave or DAvid gay?

Trudy said...

Davey now says that he had already finished his work out when KW called. Remember he said before he was finishing up? Not finished. If Davey often took a shower at la fitness, and KW called him at 7:00am as usual, crazy Davey must have been running even later than than we thought on the morning Amanda was murdered. Who schedules a regular weekly call for a time that they would normally be in the shower?

The timeline is so important in this case and will bring Davey undone.

I'd like to repeat, that by 8:20 am, Weston was (normally) out of his crib and being tended by Amanda. How did Davey know that Amanda's wasn't holding Weston when she had her horrific pregnancy related accident? How? It was 8:20. Weston should have been up. He could have been injured, crawling around the house after being dropped by Amanda at 8:05, 8:10, 8:15. There was no reason for Davey to assume Weston was still in his crib at 8:20 in the morning.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Davey needs to pack a bagful of product to take a shower at the gym.
But, he was so meticulously laser focused on packing duct tape and other nasty evidence out of the house, he forgot the simple stuff.

Frustrating.

Anonymous said...

He's trying to explain coming home "to shower", as if he wasn't planning to come home after the gym that morning.

What about all the writing where he came home "to discover" and "to find" Amanda.

Anonymous said...

There is so much of the fake timeline that is impossible to reconcile...unless you apply statement analysis principles and see how Davey REMOVES himself from almost everything.

The timeline is mostly a ruse/PLOY, as Davey's continued jabbering reveals new inconsistencies (while leaking SA gold) every time he tells the story.

flightfclbird said...

And what about when Davey said he returned home "to shower" - as if showering was the reason for returning home. Now, he is saying he HAD to return home to shower because he forgot to throw a towel in his gym bag so he couldn't shower at the gym.

(tm Elle Woods - so you're saying your father was shot - while you were in the shower. . .but you didn't hear the gunshot . . . because you were in the shower? - and then the judge says "I believe the witness has made it quite clear that she was in the shower". . . )

It's all happening ! - the threads are unraveling. And I think it would be careless and naive for Davey and his fanboys to think that the people on this board and DataLounge are the only ones who are taking notice of these conflicting statements and changing stories.


flightfclbird said...

He's trying to explain coming home "to shower", as if he wasn't planning to come home after the gym that morning.

IF he hadn't come home to find Amanda (lying in a pool of blood, his worst nightmare come true sitting right in front of him) - his appearances would have been so much shorter and less dramatic. imagine if he hadn't had to hesitate to wait for a reaction after saying the statement "and I found Amanda on our living room floor. . .lying in a pool of blood" in all of its various incarnations.

Imagine how much time he could save if he wasn't trying to say what he honestly thought, that he had no idea anyone had been in his house, that he had no idea there were gunshots - if he didn't have to explain where Weston was and that he could hear his soft coos.

He HAD to come home to have "the story" to tell - Amanda's story which has definitely turned out to be Davey's story. But - thinking about it - if he *hadn't* come home to find Amanda, would he look less guilty - or more?

Not coming home, having someone else find her - would have avoided a ton of conflicting statements, would have avoided Perry Noble and his dad reporting that Davey said "Amanda has a head wound" and indicating it was caused by a fall - many less variables and less chance of having him tied to it - yes or no?

Waiting on the driveway for Alison Becker to come home, though - and then the 911 call coming in like five minutes after hers? - so obvious. Even with his best bud Kenneth Wagner tweeting the alibi.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

A comment above prompted me to look at some of Davey's older Twitter tweets and thinking about some of his past sermon talking points. He and Amanda celebrated their 7 year anniversary Aug. 7, 2015. It reminded me that he's said seven is God's number for perfection and completion (7 days creating the world, etc.). Coupled with him recently reminding everyone that as far as Weston is concerned, there couldn't have been a better time for Amanda to die (while he's so young; he doesn't ask about /for her; he doesn't miss her at all, etc.).

Bingo said...

https://games.crossfit.com/athlete/969010

I thought you would all love to know that Davey now calls himself a motivational speaker.

Thanks for the Stone church interview Bobcat. Interesting he now brings up coming home because he forgot his towel. Gosh, he just can't keep up with his stories now, can he? Also, every gym that i have ever been to has towels available. Hmm

flightfulbird said...

It seems so unlikely to me that Davey "forgot" to put a towel in his bag.

This might seem like a small detail but for someone like Davey who was always in the gym, it would've been second nature to snag everything he needed, almost in his sleep - assuming his bag wasn't already packed the night before since he always trained early in the mornings and seems to be a creature of advance planning and organization.

It seems even more unlikely that he would see such an extreme need to bring it up that he forgot his towel - now - this many months later. This new detail being included gives the appearance that it's to cover something he said previously- and account for / explain some actions that morning that have been noticed by IFD and IMPD.

Most if not all gym rats who train every day (or on a consistent pattern) - especially if they are waking up at 4:30am to do whatever it is they need to do in their houses before they head out for a workout - have everything packed and ready the night before.

The chain of gyms where I trained in California from 2006 to 2010 did not provide terry towels - only dispensers of large paper hand towels - so I always took a small towel to wipe off. Making sure I had a towel was as much a part of getting my gym bag ready as my clothes (if I wasn't leaving straight from home for the gym) and my iPod shuffle/music and my water bottle and my training log and my cinnamon chewing gum.

Maybe Davey forgot the towel because he was distracted or frazzled and making sure every little detail was covered (staged?) and all was tucked in - but there's no need for him to mention at all that he forgot his towel -of all of the details, who cares that oh yeah, I forgot my towel that morning so I had to shower at home- unless it's to cover something that happened or didn't happen or explain the timeline or his appearance.

It is highly unlikely that Davey as a serious athlete - already running short on time - would have (1) cut his training time short by having to change clothes once he arrived at the gym and (2) cut his training time short to have time to grab a shower there at the gym after he finished training and BEFORE his weekly phone call with Kenneth Wagner.

I do not think he planned to shower at the gym that morning.
His phone call was obviously paramount - if not an alibi, at least it took precedence over his training because he cut training short to do the call.

I also don't understand why Davey, already short on time that morning and going straight to the gym (not Starbucks first, or going there from "work") wouldn't just jump into his gym clothes for the fifteen-twenty minute drive over to LA Fitness on Shore Drive. He has repeatedly said "grabbed my gym bag", "grabbed my gym clothes" - saying he grabbed his gym clothes implies he was going to change into gym clothes when he arrived at the gym before starting to train - which would cut even more into his training times which was already going to be shortened by a phone call at the end of it.


WHAT was in that gym bag?

Anonymous said...

Here are the things Davey commits himself to on 11/10/2015, by using the pronoun "I":

I woke up early that Tuesday morning (11/10/2015 was NOT a NORMAL Tuesday)
I woke up about 4:30

I remember sitting there at my couch
I, spent some time in the word that morning

[This block is added for context]
She was about to get up, anyways, and so, I wouldn't lock the door. Um, and so I would wrestle with that and wrestle with that and wrestle with that and the reality is is you can kill yourself wrestling with the what-ifs, or the should’ves or the could'ves. You can absolutely destroy and be held captive to that thought and I had to finally, finally just put that thought at the feet of Jesus and say ok I am trusting your sovereignty. I am trusting that when...

I was out of control,...

you were in control. And that when, when my whole world was shaken, you were the bedrock. You were the bedrock that was holding it up, and so that, that’s, that’s the only place that I’ve been able to find peace is just going; “OK God, I don’t understand it all, and uh, and I probably won’t on this side of eternity, but I do know, that you are in control, and I do know that, that this was not my fault, you know, and that's what God’s promises tells me in the midst of my emotions, um, that are going on.


I, I left for the gym

At, right after my workout I had a conversation with a best friend of mine

I came home from the, the gym and and found her.
I walked in and, and, um the dream of what was supposed to unfold in front of us turned into a nightmare.
I walked into a reality I'd never wish on anyone
I, came home from the gym, and my, um, my greatest nightmare was, was sitting right there, in front of me.
I, walked through my front door and walked into, uh my greatest fear, my greatest nightmare, all in one.

I walked into my house, and I found, uh my beautiful wife Amanda Grace, lying on the floor face down in a pool of blood.
I walked into, to my living room and, and found my, my wife face down, uh, in a pool of blood
I found Amanda face down on the floor in a pool of blood
I.. found Amanda um, face down on the, on the floor of our living room and uh in a, in a pool of blood.
I found, my beautiful wife Amanda Grace, face down, on our living room floor, in a pool of blood.
I found Amanda on our living room floor, face down in a pool of blood,"
I found Amanda facedown on the floor in a pool of blood and she was unconscious.

I remembered how that morning Weston’s door was still shut.

when I found her, I, I, basically,
I, I got over to her

I went and I said, 'man this is really bad', but if we can get just get her to the hospital, she’s going to be OK.

I called 911 as soon as I could
I was standing there with Amanda, while I was calling the paramedics
After dialing 911, I called my dad.

I remembered sitting downstairs on the floor of our living room pleading with Amanda to stay with me as she struggled for every breath.
I was sitting there with her waiting for the, the paramedics
I just sat with her

I ran upstairs to get, to get Weston and, uh followed the paramedics to the hospital.
I grabbed Weston upstairs, who was, uh, up in his crib, and we followed, the ambulance to the hospital

I get to the hospital
I- I'm waiting to see her, and see if she's okay
I was sitting in a waiting room with Weston, just, not knowing what, when I was gonna be able to see her, what was happening.

I remember being able to recall that later when the investigators came in to ask me about what was going on, you know, what, wh- how I found her.

I helped Jesus present her to the Father holy and blameless.

Anonymous said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/21/us/joey-meek-dylann-roof-charleston-church-shooting.html

A Friend Lied About Dylann Roof’s Massacre Plan. Now He’ll Go to Prison.

One night in early June, after consuming vodka, marijuana and cocaine, Mr. Roof told Mr. Meek of his support for segregation and his desire to “do something big and put South Carolina on the map,” Mr. Meek told the F.B.I. He said that he had been planning the attack for six months and that he hoped to carry it out on a Wednesday because fewer people would be at church. He told Mr. Meek he would then kill himself.

Mr. Meek dismissed the seriousness and did not notify the authorities.

Mr. Meek learned about the shootings soon after Mr. Roof opened fire and discussed his fears with a friend, Dalton Tyler, telling him not to contact the police. Mr. Tyler held off that night. But the next morning, as a photograph of Mr. Roof from a church security camera began circulating, Mr. Tyler became the first person to call a police tip line and identify the gunman, according to a search warrant. Mr. Roof was arrested later that morning in North Carolina with the murder weapon in the back seat.

In his initial F.B.I. interview, Mr. Meek denied having known of Mr. Roof’s plans and said Mr. Roof had not spoken of a target for his attack, according to Assistant United States Attorney Julius N. Richardson.

Anonymous said...

Davey forget his hemmorhoid cream and butter at home; silly him he was in such a rush he forgot to pack it in his gym bag

Anonymous said...

"I remembered how that morning Weston’s door was still shut."

Is this cause for concern?

How many times has he mentioned "doors" when speaking of Weston?

Once in context of the murder of Amanda
Another time in context of scary game he was playing with Weston where he was refusing to turn on the "lights" for Weston in a room he said there were toys in.

Did Amanda catch him doing something to Weston that morning?

Anonymous said...

"Did Amanda catch him doing something to Weston that morning?"

The distancing in Davey's language regarding Weston was extreme in the first six months after the murder. He either didn't talk about Weston AT ALL (except for the blog saying there wasn't a better time in his life for his mother to be murdered) or stuttered and said "just" repeatedly.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHU6ZE3B58t/

"I just had to stop by her graveside today and tell her how proud I am of her for fighting that fateful morning to save Weston's life."

flightfulbird said...

^ ^ The hit dog just hollered, yet again ^ ^

If it's nothing (what Bobcat pointed out), why bring it to attention by commenting further on it?

Davey says Amanda fought to save Weston's life. AMBER also said that Amanda rose up with everything inside her and fought to protect that precious life she had brought into the world just fifteen months earlier.

Yeah, what happened with Weston that morning ?

Anonymous said...

Bobcat,

Referring to your post: Davey said "I just had to stop by her graveside today and tell her how proud I am of her for fighting that fateful morning to save Weston's life."

More and more I think Davey was hurting Weston and Amanda tried to save him.

What about when Davey is stalking her in the house like trying to ascertain exactly what her location was? Was he trying to make sure she didn't catch him hurting Weston?

The darkness game Davey was playing with Weston is sadistic. And this is what he actually tells people about, who knows what else he is doing?

Anonymous said...

"Weston's door was still shut."

What does this mean?
Did Amanda open the door and catch DAvey doing something bad to Weston?

Anonymous said...

When she was bowed in a "posture of surrender" could Amanda have been leaned over behind the bed trying to shield Weston with her body to protect him from Davey?

Trudy said...

Grab a sick bag, everyone and have a look at the latest sermon from Pastor Joke.

He's dressed up like Jimmy Fallon from the tonight show and wallowing in it like a pig in mud. Egomaniac. I'm only 6 minutes in - as usual, his sermons have to listened to in small increments because he's so nauseating. He's making a big deal about how #FORINDY can help turn around the lives of those like the men he hired to murder his wife.

(It was gratifying to learn that crazy Davey had to go and clean up the chalk mess he and his mates made down at the canal after the city complained.)

In crazy Daveys account of the morning of Amanda's murder, he does NOT follow the 25%, 50% 25% rule (there's a lot to learn about being deceptive, isn't there Davey?). More like 40% 10%, 50%. Anyone else notice that?

It is funny that self confessed "control freak " Davey didn't adequately pack a bag for the gym. Especially, since grabbing the bag/clothes features as one of the few things that happened in the 1 hour and 40 minutes before he left the house. (To be fair, he didn't say it was a towel he'd forgotten, just that he didn't pack what he needed for a shower.) I find it funny, too, that although he repeats certain things he did that morning in his various accounts, he never mentions Amanda -sleeping or awake - at all. Just nothing. It's so unusual because grief stricken widowers often dwell on the last time they physically saw their loved one before tragedy struck. But not one word from davey. Was she asleep Davey? Did you judas kiss her goodbye?

Anonymous said...

Davey 'kissed her goodbye' on Monday morning, before going off to meet with people and drop things off. The one time he put his finger to his own mouth to shut himself up.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/942016-what-happens-when-you-die-week-5.html

Trudy said...

How many people here think that Davey killed Amanda himself? I'm asking because I can't imagine Davey the OCD planner, getting his own hands dirty. Could someone who thinks Davey shot Amanda himself, ELI5 what they think happened that morning? Thanks.



Trudy said...

Thanks 10:04.

That illustrates my point. We know a few things about Monday - (she was in a position of surrender on the floor on her knees beside the bed, she said she was praying that God would use them in a really big way, he didn't pay any attention to her in the kitchen because he was so full of "swirling thoughts of pouring out", he kissed her goodbye, he watched her take Weston upstairs to bed, he was annoyed at Amada for laughing a dumb things while he was trying to read/sleep). That's it.

Nothing at all from Tuesday morning, before she was shot.

Trudy said...

BTW, I'm not dismissing out of hand that CD shot Amanda. It just seems to make more sense that the gutless wretch would have someone else do it.

PS: great comments everyone! (Most everyone)

Anonymous said...

I think when he says "Weston's door was still shut" means that he shut it before he left for the gym, as he didn't want Weston to hear anything or get up and wander downstairs. When he saw Weston's door was still shut, he knew that Weston was unharmed.

Trudy said...

10:19? What? Davey shut Weston's door before he left for the gym? I very much doubt it.

Saying Weston's door was still shut is a big red flag. He said it to explain why he DIDNT check on Weston when he "found" Amanda @8:20 that morning, it's the same reason he provided the detail about being able to hear Weston softly cooing from behind a closed door, upstairs, over the laboured breathing of his wife. It is a lie. A demonstrable one.

Anonymous said...


Trudy said...
BTW, I'm not dismissing out of hand that CD shot Amanda. It just seems to make more sense that the gutless wretch would have someone else do it.

PS: great comments everyone! (Most everyone









Oh......I get it. This is one of those creative story-building games, where the story is passed around, with each participant adding a paragraph. yaaaaay! It's always fun to see the sometimes unlikely, always disjointed and farcical end story.

Keep it going, sleuths. But dang, I see nothing new.. When are you going to introduce your evidence?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

So, his wife's nude and bleeding out on the floor, ladder laying on the floor with a broken lamp and a roll of duct tape, visible change on the landing, and he doesn't go upstairs and check on Weston, closed door or not?!!! Perry Noble had at least one thing right- There is indeed something wrong with Davey. Isn't there the slightest possibility that the "guys" who murdered his wife could have either killed Weston and closed his door on the way out or taken him and closed his door on the way out? What a stellar Dad! Not. Oh, but he took him to Disneyworld. What Davey does is done for show, to manipulate people into thinking he's such a great guy/husband/father/"man of God". He's about as shallow as they come.

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting that in the sermon titled "What Happens When You Die", Davey says "kiss Amanda goodbye" when talking about Monday morning.

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In SA, "goodbye" is flagged.

From Peter's SA on Ross Harris:
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2014/07/statement-analysis-i-love-you.html

"In this case, the detective testified that Harris praised himself as a "wonderful" father who even "kissed" his son goodbye.

In Statement Analysis, the principle remains the same: The need to portray oneself as wonderful often indicates the very opposite in reality.

Also, kissing "goodbye" is sometimes the time of death, or near the time of death, as the guilty party wants to portray themselves in a positive light.

Harris kissed his son and then left him to bake in the car, until dead.
"

-------------------------

Hello Fido. That's a good doggy.

Trudy said...

Anyone think Fido @10:46 has read the interview we are discussing?

Trudy said...

It's interesting that when KM asks Davey "you come home from working out, uh tragedy really came into your life. Tell us the story. "Davey chooses to start the story well before he came home from working out.

I'd like to change the percentage breakup to 50 %15 % 35%.

Can I have a show of hands for commenters who think Davey shot Amanda himself. Fido?


Trudy said...

Kw was an unwitting alibi. I was talking about km.

Bingo said...

Ok, so I was looking at the 12 Stones transcript and this is what Davey said?

"I remember actually being frustrated that I didn't prepare well enough to grab, a bag, and pack a bag to shower at the gym and so I, decided I was gonna come back home."

From his earlier blog:
"Grabbed my gym clothes and headed out for a workout. When I returned home to shower I walked into a reality I’d never wish on anyone."
(4/24/2016) "and then grabbed my gym bag and headed out the door"

So did he bring a gym bag or not? Did he wear his pajamas and change into gym clothes? Why does he even bring up these stupid details? Because they are sensitive. It is all to cover himself. Why come home to shower if you brought clothes? Oh because I just brought gym clothes. Why bring a bag if you didn't shower? I forgot to bring what I needed to shower. He continues to talk about Tuesday being his long day and the need to get up at 4:30. This explains why the lights may have been on. He needs to explain why he had a bag even though he didn't pack what he needed. He needs to explain why he came back home. This sounds like a guilty person trying to cover his tracks instead of a grieving spouse trying to remember the last moments with his wife. I would love to see a live polygraph on this guy.

Anonymous said...

I know. My question is about KW, and I had asked it previously. I never got an opinion.

Surely he knows he's being used as an alibi...unwilling or not. At this point, is it unwilling?

And BTW, there is still nothing new in your discussion. It's more re-hashing phrased differently.

Anonymous said...

said...
Kw was an unwitting alibi. I was talking about km.

March 23, 2017 at 8:23




I know. My question is about KW, and I had asked it previously. I never got an opinion.

Surely he knows he's being used as an alibi...unwilling or not. At this point, is it unwilling?

And BTW, there is still nothing new in your discussion. It's more re-hashing phrased differently.

Anonymous said...

What's new about the discussion is that Fido is here insulting specific points.

Those are obviously sensitive areas.

Anonymous said...

Bingo,

Whenever Davey talks about grabbing a bag or clothes, he drops the pronoun "I".

He took a bag, but he is psychologically distancing himself from what was in his gym bag. He is also distancing himself from grabbing his gym clothes.

(4/14/2016) "Grabbed my gym clothes and headed out for a workout."
(4/24/2016) "and then grabbed my gym bag and headed out the door"
(5/22/2016) "and then, grabbed my gym clothes, left for the gym"
(12/2016) "I remember actually being frustrated that I didn't prepare well enough to grab, a bag, and pack a bag to shower at the gym and so I, decided I was gonna come back home."

The "time and form" during the discussion with Levi Lusko on 5/22/2016 fits into another principle of SA:

From Peter's "Time and Form" blog:
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2013/12/time-and-form-in-statement.html

"If you hear a phrase like, “and then later on” along with a missing pronoun, you are likely at the place where the event took place, and likely speaking to the person responsible for abuse, neglect, or exploitation."

Then DB says [dropped pronoun] "left" (SA ALARM BELLS) for the gym.
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2014/03/understanding-word-left-in-analysis.html

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I'd love to hear a verbal Q&A between another pastor and Davey, where the other pastor says,

“What happened before you left for the gym on 11/10/2015?”
AND
"What did you drop off on Monday 11/9/2015?"
"What people did you meet with on Monday 11/9/2015?"
"What did you 'take care of' on your Monday 11/9/2015 to-dos?"
"What errands did you run on Monday 11/9/2015?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's new about the discussion is that Fido is here insulting specific points.

Those are obviously sensitive






Questioning you is tantamount to insulting you? My, what a sensitive little wannabe sleuth you are!

BTW, I've always questioned specific points you clowns regurgitate ad nauseam. It's almost as if you have some sort of learning disability.

You know, for the record, I can't stand what I know about DB (which, like you, is only what I've read), but you surely must know you're not really effectively applying SA, because your preconceived opinion affects your so-called analysis. You want your analysis to make Davey guilty, and his guilt ranges from planning the murder, to actually carrying it out himself. Surely you and your SA can pick one!

Anonymous said...

I'd love to hear a verbal Q&A between another pastor and Davey, where the other pastor says,

“What happened before you left for the gym on 11/10/2015?”
AND
"What did you drop off on Monday 11/9/2015?"
"What people did you meet with on Monday 11/9/2015?"
"What did you 'take care of' on your Monday 11/9/2015 to-dos?"
"What errands did you run on Monday 11/9/2015?




Yeah, these pastors need to question him!

Oh, wait.......I bet LE has questioned him, and what do you want to bet they've thought of those questions. Does it occur to your simple, subjective mind that LE is probably way ahead of you?

Anonymous said...

"You want your analysis to make Davey guilty, and his guilt ranges from planning the murder, to actually carrying it out himself. Surely you and your SA can pick one!"

We can only pick one?

What about the option of total innocence?

Anonymous said...

"Yeah, there's definitely that." regarding innocence.

this = closeness; that = distance

Davey's guilt 'range' (indicated by SA) includes planning the murder of his wife, Amanda Blackburn.

Larry Taylor pulled the trigger.

Do we get gold stars now?

Trudy said...

Most commenters here with a difference of opinion about Davey's level of involvement can ask and answer questions, and discuss the case with knowledge, humor, courtesy, and civility. Thank you to those commenters.

I had to laugh at the anon who expressed incredulity that commenters would could confuse her questions for insults, (they didn't) and then proceeded to unleash a torrent of insults upon commenters. SMH.

Anonymous said...

Everyone but you, Trudy. You throw insults right and left, and once again, you incorrectly interpreted what I said.

Anonymous said...

Fascinating article regarding the psychopathology of male homosexuals and crimes they commit

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/10/29/homosexuals-are-more-narcissistic-and-more-prone-to-pedophilia-and-murder/

Anonymous said...

Scary statistics from the article:

Most child molesters, child rapists, murderers and serial killers are male. Homosexual males account for 1% to 2% of the population. That means 1% to 2% of the population commit 1/3 of child molestations, 1/3 to 2/3 of child rapes, 1/2 of all murders, and more than 2/5 of serial murders.

Concerned said...

Calling fellow commenters clowns with learning disabilities doesn't seem to be discouraging
them from discussing Davey's case on a blog chatroom designed for just that purpose. Since the
rest of the entire world KNOWS Davey is innocent, surely there is a place with fewer clowns
where Anon might spend more satisfying time?
Just wondering.

Anonymous said...

Your mommy was surrendered.

She gave her life so you could have yours. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she did what she had to do that morning to protect you.

http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/weston-i-want-to-tell-you-about-your-mommy

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

I only have one question:

Why is Davey Blackburn avoiding saying where Amanda was when he "headed out"?

There should only be three choices. She was either: awake; up; or asleep. Why is this so difficult?

Sixteen months later, Davey is still the focus of this story, predicated by his coming home.

That he still refuses to verbally commit Amanda to any of the three reasonable and expected choices is either a pretty extreme avoidance response, he had some indication/knowledge beforehand of the "condition" in which he would find her, or he was thrilled that his big ministry break had finally come-Amanda who?

O.k.. technically that's more than one question. LOL

Sixteen months later, "my beloved wife and ministry partner Amanda Grace", not one loving recollection of their interaction that morning or even him kissing her goodbye. Is he afraid to say that or did he forget to kiss her goodbye like he forgot to lock the front door? Or was it more than that? Was there an argument or altercation?





Anonymous said...

I think Davey and Amanda's final interactions involved wrestling.
She put up one hell of a fight before she was surrendered.

Hey Jude said...

Wow, Davey.

From Bobcat's transcript 12Stone Church interview:

DB: "Um. (Sigh) I, I woke up early that Tuesday morning, November 10th. It's uh, it was a typical Tuesday, or started out to be that way. Um, normally on Tuesdays, I would just, wake up early, spend some time in the word, go to the gym, and um, sometimes I'd shower at the gym and just go straight to work and. I remember actually being frustrated that I didn't prepare well enough to grab, a bag, and pack a bag to shower at the gym and so I, decided I was gonna come back home. At, right after my workout I had a conversation with a best friend of mine, who's a church planter, and was driving back to the house, and, finished the conversation in the driveway and then, um, hung up the phone and walked in, to my house, and uh.

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First he said he grabbed his gym clothes; a while later he said he grabbed his gym bag; here he says he was frustrated because he didn't grab a bag.

Maybe he's on CCTV arriving at the gym without a gym bag. I wonder if there is CCTV of him on the street as he left the house with a gym bag. What were the things he had to drop off, and we're they in a gym bag? ? Did he 'drop off' a laptop and a book bag - was that the stufff he later said home invaders had 'tried' to steal from his house?

I agree, what reason does he think anyone else might have to care about such a detail? - yet it matters very much to Davey.

---
Also, in that interview, it is interesting how he said:

I was sitting in a waiting room with Weston, just, not knowing what, when I was gonna be able to see her, what was happening. The next thing I know, investigators and doctors come in, and begin asking me a bunch of questions. It wasn't until they came in, and told me, that she had three bullet wounds in her, and one was in her head, that I had any idea what had happened, but in that moment you're going; 'No, no, there's no, there's no way, there's no way"

Is he annoyed by the 'bunch of questions' from investigators and doctors? I think there's some resentment in that 'bunch', and again he had 'no idea' Amanda had been shot three times until they 'told' him - so not gently explaining to a devastated husband what was only obvious to the doctors; he makes it sound more that they are wondering why he did not state that his wife had been shot.

Hey Jude said...

Yes, I wouldn't mind betting Davey showered before he called 911 - maybe he needed to shower Weston too, if he had discovered his worst nightmare (Weston sitting there besides Amanda on his living room floor) when he walked in. Maybe he forgot to dry the shower, and investigators noticed it had been very recently used. He needs to explain he went home to shower - if he really did shower before he called 911, or after the paramedics arrived but before the police came, then I think there has to be a movie in Davey' Story, after all. Could be he was in his gym clothes at the hospital and obviously still in need of a shower, yet the shower might still have been used if he'd needed to clean up Weston, and that might need some explaining, as he claims Weston was in his room the whole time.. I'd think most likely Davey showered in a hurry, or changed clothes in a hurry, as there was change on the landing which probably fell from his pocket. It is very likely Amanda would have picked it up as a choking hazard if she had seen it, so there is a good chance it was not there while she was capable of doing so.

I'd think there would be blood in the shower if Davey or Weston had been in there between Amanda being attacked and taken to hospital, and forensics would have found it - well, if they were thinking that way, and if investigators had that suspicion. Would be difficult to explain away. Is he trying to explain, in a roundabout way, yet without being able to quite admit that he actually did take a shower, or washed blood off Weston, or both of them, while Amanda lay dying? It would be a bit embarrassing for him if he did that. Might spoil the story, and put a dent in his halo.

I hope Davey keeps talking - about the gym bag, gym clothes, his shower plans, his stuff to shower with, and if the investigators were likely to have found a wet or humid shower in his home, or anything to do with his going home in order to shower, then sitting in the driveway for ages talking to KW rather than going in to shower. Did he manage to fit that shower in or not? He said he 'finished up' his conversation on the driveway, which is misleading - he does not want to say he continued his conversation for a very long time while Amanda lay dying on the other side of the front door.

Also, how does that shower, whether taken or not, relate to the shower in which God spoke to him a few weeks later- why did it seem such a good idea, or in some way necessary, that God should speak to him in that particular circumstance? Is his talk of showers related? Was the second one a mighty over-compensation for the shower he says he went home for but has not, so far said he did or did not take? IDK, but it is interesting.

Hey Jude said...

Gonna watch the Jimmy Fallon sermon now, or watch a bit, then put it to picture in picture, while I play Candy Crush - makes it more bearable. I've got a couple of weeks to catch up with. I found myself listening to the one he did about tithing again, where he makes fun of someone's speech impediment. He's all heart, is Davey. Worse, rather than move onto the next one, I listened right through again, then couldn't be bothered with the later ones. Don't want to let Davey sermons pile up, methinks. I wish I did not want to listen, but he might say something really interesting, and I don't want to miss it. No doubt he has already said many interesting things which have passed some of us by - some things he has said are quite awful - those of us here have mostly skipped over those things.



Hey Jude said...

Bobcat @ 8.01 - Poor Weston, Davey was guilt-tripping him even before he could talk. I think Davey is wicked towards Weston, in the traditional sense of the word, and it's made worse because he's so convinced his parenting techniques are awesome.

Elle Woods said...

So, you grabbed your gym clothes AND your gym bag,
but you didn't pack a bag to SHOWER at the gym?

So, you came home to shower, but you talked to KW in the driveway for 50 minutes?

What was in your gym bag?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Definitely not SA, so feel free to bypass...

Did Davey not report Amanda unconscious, naked, face down in a pool of blood because he knew that the 911 Dispatcher would instruct and walk him through CPR? He did verbally attach walking into "his greatest fear, his greatest nightmare" with "she was still breathing". his greatest fear, IMO, as an aspiring worldwide Mega-Church Pastor would be to be saddled with an invalid wife. He needed a fully functioning, fully committed and resolutely dedicated, putting her needs/dreams/ in last place, self-sacrificing, fully on board, mover and shaker wife to slingshot his ministry.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

RE: Hey Jude @ 9:48 PM March 23, 2017

You said
"Also, how does that shower, whether taken or not, relate to the shower in which God spoke to him a few weeks later- why did it seem such a good idea, or in some way necessary, that God should speak to him in that particular circumstance? Is his talk of showers related? Was the second one a mighty over-compensation for the shower he says he went home for but has not, so far said he did or did not take? IDK, but it is interesting."
____________________________________________
I think you might be onto something with Davey's shower focus. Perhaps he did shower before calling 911 and the second shower talk with God was "God" letting Him know that it was not his fault (like his not locking the front door when he left the house and Amanda being dead as a result was not his fault-from Davey's blog post). I'm firmly in Peter's corner on his shower references analysis. Many people talk to God in the shower, but few announce it (much less publicly).

Having listened to a lot of Davey's sermons and interviews, his stuttering during the telling of His/Amanda/The/Resonate's Story is getting progressively worse. Considering it's supposed to be his personal experience and as many times as he's "shared" his story in interviews and innumerable Churches, Men's Conferences, Leadership Conferences, speaking engagements, videos, and sermons, he should have it down pat by now. He does not. Oddly enough, his other sermons flow far more smoothly and fluidly than his personal testimony about this very personal event. He's had 16 months to practice.

Trudy said...

Having the crime scene professionally cleaned in the days after the murder, and refitting/remodelling the BATHROOM was good thinking.
Who knows what pesky forensic evidence might have turned up?

Bingo said...

Yes, the stuttering hasn't stopped! It IS getting worse! His explanation of the morning is so self-absorbed. I went to the gym. I talked on the phone to a fellow church-planter(gag me) grabbed MY bag, spent time in word, preparing for my long writing day, blah, blah. The only thing he says about Amanda is that she was in a pool of blood. That is the only time she exists to him that morning and that sociopath seems to enjoy saying it. This is one deeply disturbed individual.

Trudy said...

Really. Remind me. Davey refitted the bathroom in the murder house before he sold it. Right?

Hey Jude said...

He did' Trudy - updates galore, ALL bathrooms - might have looked suspicious if it was just the one?


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http://www.estately.com/listings/info/2812-sunnyfield-court

flightfulbird said...

Having the crime scene professionally cleaned in the days after the murder, and refitting/remodelling the BATHROOM was good thinking.
Who knows what pesky forensic evidence might have turned up?


Having the crime scene professionally cleaned as soon as it was shows that Davey had a lot more on his mind while Amanda was lying in Methodist Hospital on life support than just holding hands with Amber and listening to Elevate Church randomly sing Nothing is Wasted on Pandora radio.

Is he annoyed by the 'bunch of questions' from investigators and doctors? I think there's some resentment in that 'bunch', and again he had 'no idea' Amanda had been shot three times until they 'told' him - so not gently explaining to a devastated husband what was only obvious to the doctors; he makes it sound more that they are wondering why he did not state that his wife had been shot.

The "bunch of questions" from investigators should raise an eyebrow - maybe it did. Maybe that's why the urgency. And Davey can say he "had no idea there were bullet wounds" before they told him in the hospital - until the cows come home - but there's no way he can tie the type of wound and bleeding from a gunshot to the head (and upper back) to a miscarriage, even without the things scattered around and evidence of a struggle. Does he think everyone is effing stupid?

Oh how much I wonder if he told the 911 dispatcher that Amanda was pregnant and that he thought something had happened to the baby - that would also be a reason for him to keep saying over and over and over and over and over that his first honest thought was this.

Seriously, unless Davey had something to hide (although he stated "for us, we have nothing to hide" - and "us" was NOT him + Jesus like he wants us to believe) - why the rush to wipe all of the possible evidence. IMPD had already returned once to gather more information - maybe they would be returning again - if he really wanted all evidence captured to have the best chance of catching "these guys", the ones wh- who uh did this to Amanda. . . leave it alone.

Defenders have said on these boards that once the house was released, why not go ahead and wipe the memories (not in so many words) - saying they wouldn't want to live where there was a crime scene. It's just the timing that makes it so interesting to me - November 10th was a Tuesday - Amanda was executed that morning and I think one writeup said that the professional cleaners had already left the house by Wednesday afternoon? It's not like they were going to be returning home to sleep there that night.

Interesting upthread about the possibility of a humid recently-used shower, the sensitivity around why and when Davey showered and his need to explain why he didn't shower at the gym - it make sense because it affects the timeline, the 911 call, his appearance when IFD and IMPD arrived - it affects a LOT.

It's a tangled web he is weaving, for sure.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

I haven't had time to sift through Davey's latest at Stone Gate, so I'm sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm curious...

Did Davey actually say that he did not shower at the gym?
Or did he merely hem and stutter about the bag, gym bag, gym clothes, lack of preparing, and "suggest" he had no towel for a shower so he had to come home "to shower before work".

Like a number of posters here, I know waaaay to many fitness freaks. The ones I know live for their workouts. Their value is in how many (miles I run each day/Lbs I press/hours I spent at the gym/hours I trained today/planks-Squats-Burpees-exercise of the week I did/calories I burned/lbs I lost/etc.). The pack their gym bag for trips before their business bags. Hotels, vacation or business, are chosen for fitness facilities or proximity to gyms. I have a difficult time believing that Davey forgot to pack anything in a gym bag to work out, unless he was significantly distracted or in a major hurry (unlikely as this was his "normal Tuesday morning" and he alludes to it being his every Tuesday morning routine workout). So, having said that IF he forgot to pack a towel, something happened Monday evening or Tuesday morning that threw him off his well-organized "normal" game. The issue of him being hurried on Tuesday morning directly contradicts his relaxed, leisurely "normal Tuesday morning" 1hour 45 min. at home. His stated activities encompass all of 10-15 minutes "in the Word" and grabbing his gym bag-gym clothes, with no shower, no meals, no Amanda. Yet with his Stone Gate speech, he's giving the impression he was hurried. In what way? By whom or what? Why? How can you be late when you're a self-employed Pastor, setting your own hours, writing your sermons by yourself at Starbucks or at home with your wife in full charge of your child at home? When you have no real scheduled appointments with anyone?

Concerned said...

Since Davey had no towel and didn't take a shower at the gym,
he left there wet with sweat, talked on the phone (to his church-
planter best friend) that way foralmost an hour, went inside and
found Amanda where he held her in his arms, right? (And let her
do to call his dad.) So when EMS arrived he
must have been a mess of blood and sweat.
And no one immediately suspected him of anything?
He had dashed upstairs to grab Weston, hopped in his car (still
covered with sweat and blood?) and drove behind the ambulance
to sit in the waiting area with Weston. So Weston would have also
been covered in blood and sweat, right?
I continue to struggle with this.

Concerned said...

sorry... let her "go" to call his dad

Anonymous said...

Within the timeline blog are links to individial transcriptions. The timeline is broken up to show small variations in Davey's descriptions of each chronological 'event' of the morning, but the links to sermon transcriptions will show complete descriptions without breaks. It is interesting to read the tangents on an "alter-ing day" and "control".

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

I may put together one new blog with all of the dated descriptions, with no breaks.

Anonymous said...

Concerned,

Davey never said he held Amanda.
He stood to call 911 AS SOON AS HE COULD, and "was sitting" / "and so I just sat" / "Um, and, and, just sat" on the floor with her while waiting for the paramedics. He 'remembered' being crouched by her side.

No holding or even touching has been described.

flightfulbird said...

And no one immediately suspected him of anything?


Warning Fidos, possible "fiction" writing ahead along with content that has been covered in the past -

Maybe they immediately suspected him. For multiple reasons. The most glaring of which is this -

IFD had to request IMPD personnel themselves - police were not dispatched by 911 dispatch - so either Davey did not mention even a "possible" (much less completely obvious) crime scene in the call - or else the 911 dispatcher dropped the ball and sent a fire truck to a murder scene (tm a poster from a very long time ago).

And the 911 dispatcher sent IMPD to the other two home invasions that morning because the residents reported them.

There was no reason for Davey to walk in from the gym and find clear signs of a home invasion and his wife unclothed and bleeding from multiple areas (none of which were the pelvic area so the miscarriage theory also does not fly) and NOT indicate to 911 that someone (not expected) had been in his house. Hence the reason he started saying he "had no idea someone had been in my house, had no idea there were bullet wounds, things didn't look right but. . . " (bullet wounds are another thing that would've instantly rolled IMPD and not just IFD).

Someone "not expected" ? - I chose those words meaning to convey "intruders" but maybe my choice of words indicates that someone WAS expected to have been in the house while he was gone - strolling straight up to the unlocked front door and cruising in through it.

I bet they suspected Davey of some involvement from the very start and have been gathering evidence and building a case all this time. The bunch of questions at Methodist definitely sound like more of an inquisition than gentle questions to a distraught husband.

And everyone knows it's impossible for Davey to have been cleared of any involvement whatsoever in the extremely short timeframe before IMPD wanted the public to know that he was 100%, no, 150% cleared.

There was not enough time to check phone records, internet searches, connections to Alonzo through Treezy or anyone else before they cleared Davey. Seeing him on camera at LA Fitness during a certain timeframe does not exclude him from killing Amanda before he left OR orchestrating it carefully and then waiting to go inside until he was sure Allison Becker had called 911.

Davey said in at least one appearance that he "came home from the gym to shower". I think maybe he showered before calling 911 as soon as he could. I'm not sure when he would've had time to shower between calling 911 and IFD arriving - but IF the paramedics of IFD and officers of IMPD saw him wearing bloody sweaty clothes, I think they would've detained him - his gym visit on camera wouldn't have been verified that fast so it seems they would have to have considered him a suspect.

If he was cleaned up, then his statement now of NOT having what he needed to shower at the gym (in his gym bag that he grabbed) gives a reason for him to have showered once he was home - so that he would be clean to sit around in the hospital and sing and pray and hope and play the waiting game to see if Amanda would wake up and tell everything she had seen that morning (or not). Even if there was no blood on his clothes, he would still not want to sit around in wet sweaty clothes- although he didn't seem to mind sitting in them in the cold outside in the car on the driveway.

There has to be a reason he is talking just how about why he didn't shower at the gym - who cares? - unless it matters to the timeline and making his statements coincide with each other.

flightfulbird said...

It has been mentioned by so many other posters and yes it really is amazing how we have such great detail (although delivered in such a stuttering manner from a public speaker even after all this time) of DAVEY's actions that morning but Amanda is so invisible.

One of his last mentioned recollections of her is of her laughing maniacally (or whatever word he chose to use, it wasn't intended to portray her as cute) the night before - laughing at dumb finds on Instagram and keeping him awake. That, and bowing / leading the way in surrender.

Anonymous said...

The recently transcribed pastor-interview where Davey describes not showering at the gym was actually recorded last December. I just discovered it recently, thanks to a post on Datalounge. https://www.datalounge.com/thread/17752942--smoking-hot-pastor-s-wife-killed-after-failed-robbery-part-7

The last interaction Davey described with Amanda was this:
"And that night we went to bed, and, she was watching, dumb finds on Instagram, like, laughing hysteric, I’ve never heard, like jus, gut laughing, you know? And, and I was like, would you, I’m trying to go to bed, I’m, would you stop laughing? You know? Like I’m trying to sleep, I’m trying to read so I can fall asleep, and she’s like “hahaha” like I’ve never seen her more carefree and happy, but listen, I was annoyed with it. Know why? I didn’t know that I only had 3694 days. I thought I had another day…to appreciate the annoying things."

flightfulbird said...

So after a year and a month of talking about that morning, Davey suddenly last December realized he needed to cover the reason why he came home to shower - why he couldn't shower at the gym ----> why he needed to take a shower after he arrived home?

Why the delay in calling 911 - or why was he clean and no blood on his clothes (did the gym bag by any chance contain any clothes with blood on them?) - or

For me, the shower afterward goes along with training - no need to call attention to it (and I would be absolutely freezing sitting outside in my car in the morning in wet gym clothes, even now in Southern California) - just like driving into the garage goes along with turning off the ignition of the car before going into the house.

SO sensitive about the shower and the gym bag. And still not answering any questions about that morning and Amanda - what was she doing, wearing - how did he leave her - asleep, awake and in bed, awake and tending to Weston. Maybe he isn't talking about Amanda because those details would be just that much more for him to keep straight. Maybe he isn't talking about Amanda because he can't tell the truth about how she was when he left her.

His mind must be ticking like a fine Swiss watch, wondering what will be unearthed, posted, questioned - and what he will need to say to counteract it (successfully).


On another subject, those with experience with children, please remind (enlighten) me - would it have been possible for Weston at fifteen months old to extricate himself from his crib and make it downstairs to where Amanda was? I don't even know if kids are toddling or walking at fifteen months. I am intrigued by the "greatest nightmare sitting right in front of me" being Weston downstairs with Amanda because there is so much need to persuade that Weston was still upstairs, in his crib, softly cooing, and so it goes.

And a thousand times yes to Foolsfeedonfolly who said upthread that an invalid wife would be far worse for Davey's ministry - wow wow wow I never even thought of that. CPR and possibly reviving her would have been a nightmare for him. "Still breathing" combined with "this is bad" is one thing - what if she had woken up and was in shape to tell what she had seen and experienced?

Trudy said...

From the latest blog.

"Sure, Amanda was killed, but through that a new vigor for seeing lost people find new life in Christ, ..."

Sure, but.


Trudy said...

I think the word "bunch" carried resentment, too.

Notice how he hides the investigators bunch of questions with the doctors bunch of questions? What I mean is, the bunch of MEDICAL questions had already been asked, by paramedics at the scene and later at the hospital. I doubt investigators AND doctors came in together asking a bunch of questions. Just investigators. It doesn't sound like crazy Davey was too happy about it. Did investigators ask the bunch of questions before they told him she had bullets in her? Or after? It does seem insensitive to tell grief stricken husband that his miscarrying wife actually has bullet in her head and then ask him a whole bunch of questions.

Mea culpa for saying that Davey held or cradled Amanda as she lay dying. I don't know why I thought that.

A 15 month old may or may not be able to escape from his crib and make it down stairs. It's difficult to guess without knowing the height of the crib and the door handles. I wonder what it was about the change on the landing on the way up to Weston's room, the closed door, overturned furniture, pot plants, duct tape etc that made Davey so sure was safe in his room.




Anonymous said...


From the latest blog.

"Sure, Amanda was killed, but through that a new vigor for seeing lost people find new life in Christ, ..."

Sure, but.








Because it's all about Davey. Whatever happens is all about him, because he is a classic narcissist, so you see, the important part of the story .... any story ..... is how it relates to Davey.

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flightffulbird said...

Davey the snake had already moved on and was tweeting and making statements that all things work together for good and that he is expecting and believing that the best is yet to come on THE DAY Amanda was shot - so this many months later for him to write in his log so cavalierly that "sure, Amanda was killed" pales in comparison.

Sure, Amanda was killed - but it's all good, she's laying out in the sun in heaven - nobody would bring her back Into this earthly world - she wouldn't want to come back - she would give her life to see but one soul come to Jesus and she has reached far more people dead than she ever could've imagined alive - and I can visit whatever internet site I choose, spend the life insurance money and travel the world and take Weston to Disney World- and also intercept gang members.

Interesting that DataLounge thread #7 says that this new push to reach gang members is so that when a connection is found between Davey and gang members, he can say this is why / how he knew them.

Because #forIndygangmembersinerceptionproject is in progress, you know. Never mind that the screenshots of the Facebook friends are floating around from months ago before the unfriending took place.

Someone is going to talk - if not already - and this whole thing is going to unravel. And I feel after reading the "bunch of questions" comment that they were onto Davey from the start. f

Anonymous said...

No, I'm not gay Hey Jude.

I just find the dynamics of this case disgusting. I find gay men who use women to be disgusting, and whether you want to call it homophobia or whatever, I think a lot of gay men are very sneaky and basically sociopathic. I know I am supposed to be open-minded and celebrate gay people, but more and more, I become convinced that they are some of the most devious, self-centered, narcissistic people (the men).
This case is about a gay man who used his wife as cover for his gayness and then murdered her or had a hit done on her and is so f&cking narcisistic he talks about how "it couldn't have been a better time for Weston to lose his mother". Even a hetero killer would not be that callous. Only a GAY one would be. GAy men view women as less than shit and are some of the most misogynistic assholes out there. They don't respect that women create life or give birth. They don't value anything but material shit for THEMSELVES. They are the most superficial life-hating people. I don't give a shit what society wants me to feel about gay people, and that is a bullshit rainbow flag myth that someone who dislikes gays must themselves be gay.

No, actually most people don't find sex fun with someone whose parts don't even please them because they are the same parts they have. Gay people delude themselves to think people want to be like them. I think they (gay men) are f&cking disgusting. Do they think hetero sex is disgusting? Of course they do. WEll I think their disgusting sex is very disgusting and I think it's sick how they spread AIDS and then are so hypocritical to have AIDS fundraisers. Believe me, I've had people I respect tell me I shouldn't feel this way towards gay men, but I do. I don't like gay men. I have tried not to dislike them but I don't like them. I think they are very callous. I have a mind that wants to understand things, so I have looked at gay men Craigslist ads, and they are deviants and so many are married to women. It literally will make you vomit if you look at the ads. They make sex seem so disgusting and filthy the way they talk about it and it's disgusting how many are married and living a double life....that is the very definition of sociopaths.

The CAtholic Church does have a point that they are anti-life. BEcause they are, they are very debased people.

It's really funny because if a gay guys said "EW I think that sounds gross to have sex with a woman" noone would say "oh you must really be heterosexual", so maybe gay people should get it through their head if a hetero says "I think gay people are disgusting" it doesn't mean that they are gay. Unless when a gay person says "Ew women are gross" that means theu really love women,

GAy people should just shut the fuck about dictating jack shit of how other people should feel. Do they let heteros control how they feel? No.

Anonymous said...

I have my own reasons for not liking people who have double personalities. You haven't lived the life I've lived, but if you had, you would understand. I have a lot of anger of what was done to me as a kid by someone with a double personality, a sociopath, and I get very whatever you want to call it, triggered when I am confronted with what I consider the sociopathic deception of gay men that we see here in this case. I know the damage sociopaths can do, and it's not pretty. Whether I have a right to dislike gay men, who knows, I don't know, but that's how I feel. I had the expriences I had, and it does not leave me feeling warmly towards a group of people who are so very deceptive and callous.

Anonymous said...

If they didn't deceive people, I wouldnt have said they should all wear a "G" but so many do. So whatever. If gay culture wants respect then they should stop acting like scumbags.

Anonymous said...

Im just not going to comment on the case anymore. It just disgusts me too much, and unfortunately it does make me more homophobic. I really don't think a hetero guy would ever say that "Weston couldn't have lost his mother at a better time"...in my mind he is that callous because he is gay. He doesn't care about family life, or naturally, his own child. Both Amanda and Weston were props to him to cover his gayness, yet that's not supposed to make anyone angry. HIs gayness is not incidental within this case...in my mind it's pivotal to what happened to Amanda and it also does confirm my belief that many gay men are narcissists and psychopaths.

This will be last comment.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of what excites little Davey, it's his statements related to Amanda's death that are of most interest here.

He is callous, manipulative and narcissistic. Many hetero people are known to have the same ugly qualities. You shouldn't give all the credit for being nasty to being gay.

Heteros can lie (Casey Anthony) just as well as homos.

IMO

Anonymous said...

"He is callous, manipulative and narcissistic. Many hetero people are known to have the same ugly qualities. You shouldn't give all the credit for being nasty to being gay."

That statement is intellectually dishonest seeing as how the motive for the Blackburn murder was that Amanda's usefulness as Davey's cover was over, and he wanted to be free to be gay. I think it's impossible to untangle his deception and callousness from his homosexuality. HIs homosexuality is the REASON he did what he did. Did his homosexuality drive him to jump into a life being with men? No, his homosexuality drove him to massive deception and callousness and painstakingly crafting a false persona as well as discarding his "beard" when he was done. Would a straight guy have done that? Obviously NOT.

I think it is natural too for people who are straight (I know there is a Kensey scale and supposedly people fall in a continuum, but there are some people who don't--I have never felt attracted to my same sex, so it is impossible for me to think that there is not something wrong with gay people. If a person cannot relate to something, how can they not think it is weird or bad? For example, if someone enjoys eating food, and someone else says, "I hate eating food", you can bullshit and say "oh that's normal, you're a food-hater, but deep inside you will think that person is nuts, there is something wrong with that person. That is how I feel because to me I think it is so crazy for someone to desire basically themself (they want someone with all their same parts) when in my mind, I want the opposite parts that actually fit. I don't get being gay. And in my mind, I do associate it with something wrong or messed up or deviant. The same way a gay person probably doesn't understand why people are straight, I'm just being honest I don't understand why people are gay and I don't have an open mind to them (gay men).
Also I have known gay men on an acquaintance level who are incredibly misogynistic (woman-hating) and I believe that gays are hateful to women. I don't want to look at this case anymore, because that phenomenon is more than apparent in this case (hatred of women as well as hatred of children).

Hey Jude said...

Sorry for setting you off, Anon.

Trudy said...

" Sure, Amanda was killed, but through that a new vigor for seeing lost people find new life in Christ, a new passion for restoring hope to the hopeless, and a new tenacity for helping people break the strongholds that restrain them has been birthed within me. "

Did he just say birthed in me?

PHs latest post reminded me that Davey has not made a reliable denial. He's mentioned his critics at various times, calling them shoe lint, miserable people, trolls, and unbelievably insensitive, but he has not addressed what the critics are saying. What are they saying? Are they accusing him of being involved in the murder of his wife? If so, why doesn't he say so, and why doesn't he deny it? Of course, it's a bit late now.

It's also a bit late to talk about intercepting youth before they get into gang violence, crime and drugs. That's what Davey came to Indianapolis to do in the first place and daveys copping out now, saying it was too hard then to do more than chalk the pavement with slogans and give away cookies and calling cards(at least they got on the news!) but now that one of the unforgiveable people they came to help has murdered Amanda and her unborn baby, he's ready to take up the challenge again. Such BS.

Trudy said...

It's like all his talk of his thoughts of suicide, depression and PTSD, the struggle with grief, when his instagram Facebook and Twitter have shown a smiling, suntanned Davey with a brand new wardrobe, new car, luxurious new house, going on multiple holidays, mountain retreats, Cubs games, nascar. He really does think people will believe anything he says, despite direct evidence to the contrary.

Trudy said...

I remember being annoyed at the sheer idiocy of Pastor Joke's assertion that "pain is pain and you can't compare pain"

But I wanted to scream when a few weeks later he posted " the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of changing".

Anonymous said...

OAnonymous Trudy said...
" Sure, Amanda was killed, but through that a new vigor for seeing lost people find new life in Christ, a new passion for restoring hope to the hopeless, and a new tenacity for helping people break the strongholds that restrain them has been birthed within me. "

Did he just say birthed in me?










No, Trudy, he said "within." There is a difference.



**********************





PHs latest post reminded me that Davey has not made a reliable denial. He's mentioned his critics at various times, calling them shoe lint, miserable people, trolls, and unbelievably insensitive, but he has not addressed what the critics are saying. What are they saying? Are they accusing him of being involved in the murder of his wife? If so, why doesn't he say so, and why doesn't he deny it? Of course, it's a bit late now.









Oh, he's supposed to address what "the critics" are saying? LOLOLOL!



"The critics" you refer to....do you mean here on this blog? Oh sigh, Trudy.



When interviewed/questioned by LE, does it not seem reasonable to you that he made a "reliable denial" (reliable, meaning to the satisfaction of LE, or they would not have 100% cleared him)?



What am I saying? Of course it doesn't seem reasonable to you or, obviously, the other three or four sleuths here who think they're going to break the case by repeating the very same "evidence" multiple times daily. At least come up with some new "evidence", please. (It's clear to me, though, that you don't understand the term.)



Trudy said...

That's right. He said "Sure, Amanda was killed but blah blah blah has been birthed WITHIN me." Thanks.

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