Thursday, February 23, 2017

Murder of Amanda Blackburn Crime Wire

Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn 


February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.  

Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made. 

Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years. 

Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.  

Imagine Publicity Blog  :  broadcast of the show on Madeleine McCann 2016.  

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Hey Jude said...

The vision he carries - oh, yes, that vision of world revival to be brought about through Amanda's murder...

I think it was Meg who found it necessary to say that Amanda believed in Davey. I suspect that he gaslighted her, and by the time of her murder, Amanda had more than a suspicion of what his vision was, and that she was not safe round Davey.

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Megs sound smitten. It sounds as if she is praying to Davey... he's probably embarrassed by all that fawning.

Is that a lock, stock, and barrel type locked... it sounds a bit aggressive, or at least not humble - challenging, I think, to 'lock' your eyes,- and not just on anyone - on Jesus. Turn your eyes, keep your eyes, look, gaze - dunno about lock.

Hey Jude said...

Yes, Anon - she could've ended up like Lord Lucan's children's nanny, all dead on the kitchen floor, only discovered when Amanda got up and went to make herself a cup of something.

If I was Meg, I'd have moved out if I had an inkling something might happen - must have been a strain living with Davey and Amanda, even if it was without the thought. She posted that they had a 'final' family meal together before she moved out, but she was also looking forward to sharing thousands more. Amanda commented she would be staying in Indy for a longer time than six months, if that was the case. Paraphrased, I don't have the qoutes to hand.

I don't like that 'final' - there's nothing final about friends eating together, unless they are not going to do it again - she anticipates thousands more shared meals, yet still says 'final' family meal, rather than nice, or lovely, or the one last for a while, or whatever. Final sounds final, and maybe overly significant to her, at least when considering she was still staying in Indy, and somehow intending to eat thousands more dinners there.

Trudy said...

You think Davey is probably embarrassed by Megs ( or anyone) fawning over him? Are we watching the same channel, Hey J? ;)

Narcissists are like drug addicts. They need a constant supply and don't care too much where they get it from. If Megs stopped fawning over Davey, she would not remain his assistant for very long. It's probably a prerequisite for anyone in his employ. His poor interns better work on their sycophancy.

Hey Jude said...

Yes, you are right, Trudy, he probably is not embarrassed, and it's more that I think he should be, which thought is irrelevant to the fact of Davey - thanks for that.

Does Meg, sometime church greeter, realise how reckless she sounds in saying, "Do all you have in mind, I'm with you heart and soul."? I suppose that's all of a piece with her intention of 'Pursuing Surrender' - I can't find her blog now. Should have bookmarked it, as it is not coming up on Google.

Meg's statement seems, to my mind, to come pretty close to idolatory. That is a problem with personality based ministries where the focus is on the pastor, for whom God is a sort of 'alibi', more of an add on than the reason for the ministry.








Amy Smith said...

He’s engaged. http://daveyblackburn.com/blog/she-said-yes

Bobcat said...

Her daddy is a drinker, a felon, and writes letters to the editor instead of blogs. His writing style is similar to Davey.

For her sake, I hope she adds cash value to Davey's ministry, every single day.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, what's the dad's name? TIA

Hey Jude said...

Well, I hope they have had that necessary conversation, and that Kristi is prepared to be at least as highly insured as was Amanda - higher, because if anything were to happen to her, there would be the childcare costs for two children, at least, to cover. I hope the little girl is not into drama.

Data Lounge comments are interesting - they find Davey's love interest in Kristi to be calculating. It would be difficult to disagree.

What a wealth of information, and need to explain, where a simple engagement announcement might have done.

Hey Jude said...

Beautiful looking girl - Megs is probably spitting feathers.

Do all you have in mind, I'm with you heart and soul. ".

Oh, dear.

Trudy said...

Popping the question is better than popping a cap in her head and throwing the body in the dumpster, I suppose. Not by much though. They're both very nasty scenarios.

Crazy Davey makes me sick. He acts like he's some kind of saint for keeping his wedding ring on for 12 measly months, (he tore it off on the 11th November 2016) and admits he was scouting girls at the gym a year ago. Surprise, surprise. He was doing it while Amanda was still alive too. Remember his sexist crap about girls at the gym who looked" like they were there to be worked out rather than to work out?" I just threw up in my mouth. Disgusting.

I feel so sorry for Amanda.

Congratulations to the cynics here, who called this opportunistic marriage a year ago. You were right.




Anonymous said...

He got engaged on the 8th November. Two years to the day that he gave the worship is a weapon sermon.

Anonymous said...

So, naturally, I used my kid....


The next several months was a game of trying to get around her. I had to see what God was up to. So, naturally, I used my kid to angle some time with her. Much to her hesitation, she and I would coordinate when she was coming to Crossfit and bringing her daughter so that I could bring Weston and they’d have a buddy to play with while we worked out. I wish I could say my motives were altruistic.

!!!!!! I wish I could say his motives were altruistic, too, but they are ALWAYS pretty f*%_**g far from altruistic. What's the opposite of altruistic?

Davey's new girlfriend's father is the thugs' prison chaplain. Whisky Tango Foxtrot.

Davey's latest blog is the creepiest, most self serving one yet.

Anonymous said...

The new girl friend shares a similar parenting style. This little pearl from one of DB and Kristis dates.

DB: Three or four times the kids came out of the play place complaining they were tired and ready to leave. "Just a little while longer, kids!" We'd say as we shooed them back into the play place.

Anonymous said...

"It’s hard to say what was going through my mind when I saw that car speeding towards me one second and around me the other. I was on my Schwinn and not assured that I was going to be hit by this car or have to run into him.
I didn’t know what he was doing as he got up less than a couple hundred yards in front of me and he jumped out and ran toward me. Then I saw what he was running to. There it was, a one-year-old baby girl running in front of a parked red truck. She was about to run into the street, right in front of the three cars coming toward her. I couldn’t really distinguish her from the tire on the rather large red truck tire. She was barely tall enough to clear the top of the bumper. The man that jumped out of his car ran out of his shoes as he headed toward the baby. I could tell that he was about to dive in front of those oncoming cars to rescue the baby.
I turned into the oncoming lane of traffic and I started paddling my kamikaze ass as hard as I could to intercept them before they killed the man and this lost child. The oncoming cars were traveling about 25 miles an hour and they could not stop in time. “The child and her rescuer would be dead,” crossed my mind in an instant. I thought, “Help him Lord” and the man cuddled up in his right arm and pulled the child back just in time. Slamming on the brakes the cars stopped immediately but then I noticed the vehicles continuing on, without a thought. They just drove around and went on their way.
It is now 4 hours after the incident and I am shaken not stirred. It was the Creator of this world who put us in the right place and the right time. This man had to get around me and do what any father would do for his child, give his own life up. When he saw the baby, he responded. He is truly an amazing man of faith and a hero.
My thanks to God for using two fathers, two husbands, two brothers, and two sons, who are willing to sacrifice their lives for an innocent child. I know God will bless them. I know that our heavenly father will provide many blessings upon our families.
May God Bless you all."

http://www.rangerreview.com/letters-editor/angels-among-us-montana

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Anonymous said...

https://www.thecreek.org/local/2017/8/31/extended-hand-prison-ministries

Davey typically embellishes. Her stepdad is a chaplain volunteer and has been in prison ministry since 1971. He doesn't work for Marion County.

And why on earth would he tell his stepdaughter that he talks to the thugs, and why would she tell Davey? Confidentiality?

Anonymous said...

Kristi said "yes." Tell us again, Davey, about how Amanda would still have said "yes" to moving to Indianapolis if she knew what was going to happen.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Kristi would have still said "yes" if she knew she would be brutally murdered in her own home in the not to distant future, so that Gods " bride could come alive." This latest blog is deeply disturbing.

Anonymous said...

Why does he repeatedly call her a "girl"? Her daughter is a GIRL. She is a WOMAN.

Trudy said...

I mentioned that Crazy Davey talks out of both sides of his mouth. Here he goes again.

". We had received some wise counsel that it would be a good idea to stay under the table with this developing relationship until after Amanda's trial (which was set for May at this point). So instead of me taking her to the ballet I paid for her and one of our church overseer's wives to go to a nice dinner and the ballet while I took her daughter to Chick-Fil-A and Build-A-Bear. We still tell people this was our "first date."

When May came around and we realized Amanda's trial was going to be delayed yet again, I called the Prosecutor on the case and asked him how it would affect the trial if my relationship status changed in any way. "Not at all." He answered me. "You have to do your best to move forward with your life because you never know when this trial will actually happen."

Davey had wise counsel to keep quiet about his infatuation with a new woman until after the trial, but when the trial was delayed the prosecutor said news of the new woman wouldn't affect the trial at all. So was it wise counsel? Did something change? And why tf would crazy Davey think that his new lover would have any bearing on the trial at all? He said the same thing about his book. That "we" decided to delay the release to honor the process and not impede on the trial. WTF? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Trudy said...

I know, Bobcat. It's very disconcerting to hear Kristi repeatedly referred to as a "girl". Just be grateful he didn't use "gal" The cutesy way he's telling (selling) this "love story" is revolting, like its some kind of hilarious romantic comedy/Disney movie.

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Foolsfeedonfolly said...

If Davey had nothing to do with Amanda's murder, why on earth would it matter to the trial if he was dating someone new, engaged, or anything else? Why would his relational status have any bearing on Watson's, Gordon's, or Taylor's trials? Unless, it's because her step-father is their volunteer prison chaplain. Perhaps it's not the what (new relationship)Davey's worried about, but the who (the new girlfriend and the step-father looking like a conflict of interest to the court or an attempt to influence witnesses). Also interesting is that Davey called it "Amanda's trial".

Davey's certainly staying the course isn't he- getting "wise counsel" and suddenly whatever he shouldn't be doing is magically fine to do because he "felt God "leading/telling him" it was all fine and acceptable. It's amazing how God gives Davey permission. Davey loves to whip out that God card whenever he anticipates some opposition, questions, or threat to his livelihood. What a manipulator.

Davey's got a bit of a conundrum though, if this woman is divorced. Biblically, he can't marry her unless her husband is dead. God doesn't change His laws, precepts, or his mind. So, if she's divorced and her husband isn't dead, Davey's committing adultery according to the Bible. It will be interesting to hear her story, as Davey calls it.

The coincidence factor just multiplied exponentially in this murder case. I'm guessing Peter's panel of detectives and investigators are quite intrigued by this turn of events. It seems way too coincidental that Davey had no clue who she was, especially since he'd met with Larry Taylor's foster father pastor (or so he claimed). It's also a little too neatly packaged as he/Resonate has ties to some Indy officers as well (remember Chris who's child goes to preschool with Weston, whom Davey deemed as a First Responder to Amanda's murder- who was not).

Trudy said...

Hi FFOF, yes, yes, and yes. I'm looking forward to hearing her story, too. There might be a a spanner in the works if her ex hubby is still alive. Oh well. I'm sure Davey will know what to do. It's not like it's his first rodeo.

What was it crazy Davey said to Amanda while she lay comatose in the hospital. Oh yeah. ""Don't worry babe, we know how to do Long Distance. We've done it before." Good one, Davey, you duplicitous, manipulative, sociopathic pig.

10 months. That's all it took. 10 months and he's checking out women at the gym, again. Calling them gorgeous. Stalking them. Using Weston to further his romantic endeavours. 10 lousy months of fake grief, but he wants a medal for keeping his wedding ring on for 12 months. Pig.

Kristi should run for the hills before Bluebeard Blackburn kills her too.

Trudy said...

DB from the monster blog. "THE CONNECTION I FELT WITH THIS GIRL SEEMED TO OUTWEIGH THE SADNESS I FELT WITH THE ABSENCE OF AMANDA. ". The caps are his.

Charming. After 7 years of marriage, your pregnant wife is murdered, but luckily the recent connection you made with some rando outweighs your sadness. Nice.

Anonymous said...

I think someone should alert Kristi to this thread, let her know what she's getting into.

Davey is pathological.

Bobcat said...

He knew he wanted to marry Amanda when she shot milkshake out her nose.
He knew he wanted to marry Kristi when she beamed at him with pride.

Amanda didn't do enough beaming, because she was too busy with her own agenda.

The disparity in the amount of "we" language Davey uses to describe himself and Kristi, compared to he and Amanda (in the past) is glaring.

They are planning to make big Chri$tian chelebrity bank selling their stories.

Anonymous said...

"The disparity in the amount of "we" language Davey uses to describe himself and Kristi, compared to he and Amanda (in the past) is glaring."




"Him", not "he"

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think someone should alert Kristi to this thread, let her know what she's getting into.

Davey is pathological.

November 15, 2017 at 2:41 AM"


Haha!

Yeah, and she would take you deluded amateur story writers as seriously as LE takes you.

Darn the luck. You geniuses just haven't been able to convince anyone.

Bingo said...

It appears that Kristi ex-husband is gay. I may be wrong but I believe the Datalounge posters found that he is now in a relationship with a man which is another twist.
https://www.facebook.com/andres.monroy.71
We will need a good fact checker on that though.

Gag me about Davey saying he was in love with her because she beamed at him with pride. Oh please. She better keep beaming with pride, keep working out, keep worshiping him, never dent his grill, keep the McMansion in perfect condition, take care of Weston, be willing to have sex at Davey's choosing, only say nice things about him, propel his ministry, help him profit and stay beautiful. Davey got away with murder once so he probably feels untouchable at this point. It is obvious, Amanda was disposable to him and he had no regard for her by the end. I sure hope this 2nd wife will survive the marriage.

Hey Jude said...

Why is he giving all that detail rather than saying he met a girl whose name is Kristi, fell in love, and they are getting married in December. That he will again have a wife and a three year old daughter, while Weston will have a mother and sister. It takes him a long time to say he has fallen in love, and when he does, he says it is with both of them. I'd want a bit of distinction there, if I was this girl, Kristi, because that's the sort of thing one says about choosing from a litter of kittens or puppies.

I hope it's true, for all their sakes, but I can't help thinking that blog post has 'conniving' written all over it - and look at Davey's priorities concerning what he wants in a wife, love for him is not too high on the list. He introduces the idea that her daughter might be 'baggage' - he has already outlined his thoughts on little girls and their capacity for 'drama'. Still, Kristi might become his saving grace - I hope she's noted that she has only helped 'a little bit' in their downtown mission efforts, rather than 'helped'.

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Agreed, Fools - his anxiety round a change of his relationship status is interesting - it should be of no consequence if he is innocent. Two years is not long, but it's long enough for a young man, especially one who has a young child who is in need of a mother. In church circles it might raise eyebrows, so he may feel the need to over explain and justify himself, but the blog post is quite telling of how his mind works. I don't think his marrying a divorcee needs to be a great issue these days - it may in some more conservative church circles, but Resonate regards itself as somehow progressive - still, he probably feels the need to justify that, and as time goes by and difficulties arise, he will probably enjoy and maybe exploit that he has the upper 'moral' hand in being a widower, while she is a divorcee. Well, depending on the circumstances - if there was any fault on her part, he will have filed them away for future reference. The belittling has already begun - she helped 'a little bit' - he just could have said she had 'helped'.


Hey Jude said...

Bingo - I hope someone has directed Kristi to the 'Love' series of videos, and 'Worship as a Weapon' - just so she knows some of how it was for Amanda in the weeks and days which led up to her murder.

They surely will be expected to have a baby together, to complete the new family unit.



Hey Jude said...

Maybe Crossfit will be enough to unite them...on DataLounge the observation has been made that Krist is 'Crossfit Hot' - true story - they would, at least aesthetically, make the perfect mega-church pastor family. Davey must be so frustrated, because if Perry Noble can do it, anyone should be able to do it, but he can't.

Hey Jude said...

Maybe they're all gay, then, so it could work - just concentrate on growing Davey's church, and Crossfit, and keep a united front. I still think Davey is asexual and conflicted, and that he is only in love with himself and his apps - and his abs.

mom2many said...

I guess I was two months premature when I posted this:

mom2many said...

The final paragraph leads me to believe he will be announcing a new relationship soon.
July 7, 2016 at 11:10 AM

This was his blog post in question. http://daveyblackburn.com/blog/tuesday-nights

Although, his timeline is not accurate in the engagement announcement, so who knows what the truth is.

I had decided I wouldn’t pursue anything with anyone no matter who it was until after the one year anniversary of Amanda’s death.
...
One day in early November I was working at our bi-weekly clean-up in the inner-city community we serve and this girl showed up. Ok, now she had my attention. Who was this cute Carmel mom who walked into my church with poise and confidence in her heels and clutching an actual Bible (this is unheard of in modern church) now wearing old jeans and a sweatshirt with a shovel in her hand? She wasn’t afraid to get her hands dirty and seemed to have a genuine heart for helping people. I secretly hoped she wasn’t there because she knew I’d be present and she was trying to get around me. And yet, I wanted to get to know her. So I asked our worship pastor’s wife, Ashley, to round up a bunch of folks for lunch that day and be sure to invite this girl. She said yes and I finally had the makings of a match made in paradise.
...
For the next several months after that lunch with her I worked heavily on the book. I was looking at a live album recording on the first anniversary of Amanda’s death, Thanksgiving, and Christmas were approaching plus I was in the midst of the daunting task of writing a book with a January deadline my publishers had given me.

mom2many said...

The thing that bothers me the most about his announcement post is the repetition of "next wife." What, is he shopping for a wife like he shops for a car? How many wives does he intend to have over the course of his life?

Hey Jude said...

Yes, you did predict that, Mom2Many - so have others at different times - well done.

I didn't expect it - still am surprised he's ready to give up his single life, after all his complaints about marriage. I hope Kristi knows what she is letting herself and her daughter in for - I wonder if he will be less likely to mock her little girl than he does Weston. I missed the bit about 'next' wife - must read it again.

Sorry I didn't get round to joining your study group, after all - life got hectic, plus I mislaid the manual before even I had chance to read it.

mom2many said...

I wasn't trying to toot my own horn. I wanted to check the dates and see which post had triggered that comment back then. I think it is safe to say he was looking by then. He needs a slingshot, after all. Although, at this point it's starting to remind me of that old line about the definition of insanity.

Live wife didn't work.
Dead wife didn't work.
Maybe next wife will work.

Everything Davey does is calculated. I'm just not sure he is using a properly calibrated slide-rule.

Nevermind about the study group. I haven't had sufficient time to devote to it either. I have completed chapter one and not posted my analysis of the challenge article I selected. There is not enough of me to go around after attending to all the things that must be done in a day.

Anonymous said...

mom2many-- I didn't think you were tooting your own horn either. I think someone is just being passive-aggressive in commenting on your post. Someone who should spend time trying to actually learn SA as opposed to writing sophomoric soap opera type comments that admittedly do give us tremendous insight into the thinking passed off as SA.


Davey needs a wife to fit the pastor profile. He was smarter with this choice, he thinks at least, because she "looks up to him beaming with pride."

I think it's fascinating how he has denigrated her by alluding to a "past" of her's that needs "redeeming." A project--Davey-style!!

Anonymous said...

I really feel for the 2 kids. They are screwed.

Hey Jude said...

I mean well done, not that I think you were tooting your own horn, Mom2Many - and Anon. It would be interesting to put the timeline of his developing relationship with Kristi alongside what he was saying, and doing, at the time, in his SM and at Resonate, but I doubt any of us has the time for that. There was a time when Phil made comments which seemed to be to give his blessing on the possibility of Davey finding a new wife, ministry partners and very best friend - maybe that was the week he took Kristi to visit with Phil and Robin.

On DataLounge, they are convinced Davey is commenting there, and that it was he who outed himself as being in a new relationship and posted there the name of his fiancée a little while ago, and that it had to do with his connections to someone associated with those on trial for Amanda's murder.

To him, it's 'Amanda's Trial' - perhaps he thinks she still didn't go through enough.

Anon - he will probably use her past against her, or at least use it as sermon material. There was no need to make her past, which apparently needs redeeming, part of his engagement announcement.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxwbhkDjZM

Anonymous said...

Of course there was a need to make her past an issue, have you been watching/listening/reading to Davey??

HE will redeem her because he is that powerful and #NothingIsWasted

Anonymous said...

Lol

Davey is not posting on data lounge or here

Good grief. Get out more.

Hey Jude said...

Are you Davey's internet monitor? Lol.

Hey Jude said...

He really knows how to open his mouth and put his foot into it:

'For much of 2016 I was a bit wary of single girls and single moms who showed up to our church. There seemed to be an influx of them after Amanda passed. I hoped it was because they felt especially connected to the story and not for ulterior motives, but at the time I knew I was in a vulnerable place and couldn’t really trust everyone's motives. I’m sorry if you came to our church during that season and felt that coldness from me, but I couldn’t be too careful. This girl conducted herself in a much different manner, however...'

So, any single girl or single mom who 'showed up' to their church had a cold reception from Davey, and were suspected of having ulterior motives, all except 'this girl', who behaved in a much different manner. Wow, that's like saying sorry I reacted like that toward you all, but that's because you all had ulterior motives, whereas only Kristi did not - she conducted herself in a much different manner. He says she ignored and avoided him, which is unusual behaviour toward the pastor of a church you have decided to attend? Well, there are hundreds of churches to choose from in Indiana - why choose one where you avoid engaging with the pastor? What an abysmal pastoral manner he has, and how vain. I wonder why 'my church' became 'our church' there? I think because he's a conceited pastor who didn't engage with the girls and women who 'showed up' at his church because he assumed they all wanted to be his 'next' wife - and because he didn't act professionally, it became 'our' church, rather than just 'my church' - to give the idea it was not only him to blame for seeing off the girls and single moms who 'showed up' at 'our church'. Presumably they no longer attend, as they were an 'influx' who 'showed up'. He wouldn't think to fault his ministry or style as a reason for not keeping new people


Anonymous said...

"He really knows how to open his mouth and put his foot into it:" As I'm sure you are very well aware, so do lots of people.

Davey leaks his thoughts in such an obvious way, especially to a born cynic. And he really does think he is a rock star.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:10 pm, the F he's not. He's too obvious. So is his mama.

Hey Jude said...

Yes, I'm pretty good at that myself, Anon.

I think Davey wasn't leaking so much as not caring if what he said insulted the girl's and single moms - probably because they no longer attend his church. I expect he's generally more welcoming to boys and men - less drama. Can't say I blame him - at least if Megs attentions are anything to go by - so cloying - it makes me wonder if one should hope that Kristi doesn't keep rabbits. How's he going to placate Megs?
'Do whatever is your mind' - I'm sure that would be better as 'Do whatever is in your heart' - given the circumstances of his engagement.
She's giving him a command, and her 'permission'...as he enters a new relationship. Brrr....

Anonymous said...

"Last September (2016) I watched this gorgeous dark-haired, brown-eyed girl walk through the doors of the Crossfit gym I work out at.

What, no "for the first time"?

I WASN’T READY, AND NEITHER WAS SHE. [BUT I’LL GET TO THAT SOON.]

Wow. That's a strong need to persuade.

So from September until the beginning of November I just observed this girl.

Just. Observed.

This made me want to talk to her even more!
[ ] And it made me want all the more to learn more about her!
[ ] And yet, I wanted to get to know her.
There was going to be no getting to know her, let alone her reciprocating my interest.
On top of this, I didn’t know this girl's story, but I was sure it had to have some kind of pain involved.
[ ] AND YET I STILL FOUND MYSELF WONDERING ABOUT THIS GIRL IN THE BACK OF MY MIND.


^^ This is too much. Sentences that begin with "and" have missing information in front of them.

[ ] And I have quickly fallen in love with both of them.

Four words between "I" and "love"
Six words between "I" and "both"
Eight words between "I" and "them"

Trudy said...

"I secretly hoped she wasn’t there because she knew I’d be present and she was trying to get around me". Blergggh.

Why secretly?

Kristi was under suspicion of using her feminine wiles to be around Davey, too, (just like the influx of women who had the temerity to show up to his church - and speak with him. Harlots!) when she helped "a little bit" at the inner city mission.

Crazy Davey is incredibly vain and shallow. There is such hypocrisy in his self congratulatory, pathological, stalking of Kristi, while at the same time being paranoid that she (and many others) might be stalking him, with their ulterior motives. He is afraid that people will treat him exactly as he treats them. He doesn't want that at all.

He is a predator. More than once he has alluded to the thrill of the chase, enjoying being the pursuer, and the importance of women "playing hard to get" because it "drives men wild".



Anonymous said...

I wonder how long Kristi has had her ticket to Israel booked.

Anonymous said...

You feel such a part of this entire thing after inserting yourselves into it since the beginning, you can't imagine what you sit in your house and comment doesn't have great significance for davey. Davey is not interested in this blog and especially not interested in your fiction writing. Why would he be? It's not as if LE is paying any attention to your hysteria here.

Anonymous said...

....and bobcat, PLEASE quit trying to do statement analysis. It's been made pretty clear you are not good at it, and others discount your inept attempts.

Hey Jude said...

Lol - Trudy - Harlots!

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Well, Kristi is interesting...very interesting.

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Davey is SO interested in this, and other blogs, Anon. Let's be fair - it was Davey who inserted himself into the minds of so many people when he reacted to his wife's brutal murder as though he had won the lottery - which, with the insurance payout, he maybe more or less had.

If he hadn't be so keen to embrace the media, and to spend hours arranging his hair in order to do so, and if he had not kept saying, 'The best is yet to come!' - as if he were a game show host rather than a pastor, then interest in the case would not have developed as it has. Unintended consequence of his living in a 'Newspring' type-minded bubble, where everyone is just expected to believe in the pastor - even Newspringtonians turned out to have their limits with Perry. Davey fancies himself as a Perry, but the world at large does not inhabit Davey's bubble or believe that absurdities such as 'I called 911 as soon as I could' sounds right.

You're right, Bobcat - 'quickly' falling in love - with both of them - seems like a bit of a necessary afterthought. It doesn't come in the right place - he's not saying it right, plus he doesn't use their names.






Hey Jude said...

*sound right*. ^ correction

Bingo said...

I agree that Davey is insulted that the girls came and left. More than likely a lot of people just came to watch Crazy Davey in action the first few months. He acted like a nut (giddy game show host was a great way to explain it) He acts like he was the greatest, most available new bachelor on earth after Amanda "passed" and that women were like dogs to a big juicy steak. I just find that hard to believe but I am ten years older than Davey so maybe I just don't get it. He is repulsive to me. Tight clothing, fake tan, gelled hair. He comes across as comical looking. His new fiancee is way out of his league in my opinion and poor Amanda was absolutely out of his league. Sure wish she could have found someone better. She would be the one thriving and making a real difference in people's lives.

Hey Jude said...

I wonder what's with Anon's promotion from loser basement-dwellers to sitting in 'your house'...

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Bingo - the temptation to go and watch him would have been irresistible to me, if I lived in Indy. I expect it still is for some of his audience. I have noticed some older middle aged people there - they are surely not attending for the quality of the 'messages' - more for what he might not intend to say, or what weapons or cake ingredients he might next produce as visual aids. There is surely no appeal to an older audience in wanting to be part of that church - I think everyone here finds him either difficult to listen to, or plain intolerable - at least those who comment. I'd think older people would attend if they felt they had to out of duty to protect younger family members who wanted to attend - they can only protest his teaching, or pin him against a wall if they know what he is saying - or they go because they suspect Davey. Failing that I think they must be special needs, or undercover police officers. :-)



Bingo said...


THIS-- "or what weapons or cake ingredients he might next produce as visual aids."

Davey has made a mockery of Christianity. New Spring and Perry Noble really started the movement. It became about getting the numbers up by "entertainment" instead of the Gospel. Like Davey bringing an entire car on stage for his relaunch (the one in Feb of 2015) I mean, really? Did you need to bring a car on stage to make a point related to Jesus? That was the sermon where he got on his computer the next day and told his church how disappointed he was in the numbers. He was much more upset that day than he was ever was about the brutal assassination of his wife.

Bobcat said...

If she is anything like her biological father, and she has been around in the world (her ex husband is now out of the closet), she has a good idea of what she is getting into, and is fully on board with the exterior packaging for the chelebrity consumers.

She was ready to roll out in May.

Anonymous said...

Who is her father and what do you mean ready to roll out in May?

Anonymous said...

The Datalounge thread got shut down (Gee, I wonder who would sic a lawyer on a website if they were actually innocent?)

Anyway, the posters have moved the discussion to this thread:

http://w11.zetaboards.com/Zatalounge/topic/30400960/1/#new

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


"This made me want to talk to her even more!
And it made me want all the more to learn more about her!
And yet, I wanted to get to know her.
There was going to be no getting to know her, let alone her reciprocating my interest.
On top of this, I didn’t know this girl's story, but I was sure it had to have some kind of pain involved."

-What's wrong with these Davey Blackburn statements?
"This made me want to...
-talk to her even more
-made me want to learn more from her
-And yet, I wanted to get to know her."

His priorities:
1. He wanted to talk to her even more- showing an interest in her, seeking to gain her trust because he wants her to talk.

2. He wanted to learn more from her- She has information he needs to learn. What kind of information would the step-daughter of the Volunteer Prison Chaplain who's counseling Amanda Blackburn's alleged attackers know? What information was Davey seeking?

3. In spite of __________________ (something negative that could potentially impact Davey publicly/professionally, if not played/spun correctly), he wanted to get to know her (the person).


The phrase "and yet" means in spite of something negative. Why would a man supposedly so enthralled with a new flame that he's dying to meet use an "And yet..."? Would you use that in describing someone you love and have just proposed to, in an article introducing her to your family, friends, peer group, Church, the world at large?

"And yet, I wanted to get to know her."- He's trying to make it sound like he couldn't help himself because she was just soooo beautiful, poised, uninterested and therefore attainable (a challenge) and athletically fit/inclined like him, but his wording isn't a compliment. He's actually saying in spite of [missing information], I wanted to get to know her.

I agree with several posters above- Everything Davey does is carefully calculated to maximize leverage, drawing attention to him and promoting his brand. Davey's fishing for material for use for both his own promotion pre-trial, book promotion post-trial, promoting his story (Amanda, who?), and increasing returns on his networking efforts and "investment". He needs a trophy Pastor's wife in Mega-Church land. She's got to be stunning, physically fit, somewhat financially-driven, and willing to fall at his feet and worship him and support his agenda at all costs. Amanda wasn't. Out with the old, in with the new. Amanda's story could only sling-shot him so far and the global success and adoration (literally) of a mega-Church minister making multi-millions hasn't materialized, so he's working his formula. I wonder how well-read and well-traveled Kristi is? SMH

His blog post all but announces just how shallow and vain he is. Who wants a man who can't even lock a front door to protect his wife and children, not to mention arming the security system, but makes sure he picks up his all important gym bag to head out to the gym?

Anonymous said...

Her bio dad is Leonard Dormady of Montana. He is not facebook friends with either of his daughters, and was in very poor health last fall.
Factoid: He was part owner in a Y2K supply store in Indy in 1999. Just in case your power went out due to computer glitches, you could buy water jugs and stuff from his store.


"Roll out" as in marketing a product. Maybe they weren't ready yet in May, but he was gearing up.

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Anonymous said...

"But on March 31st it wasn't me taking her to the ballet. We had received some wise counsel that it would be a good idea to stay under the table with this developing relationship until after Amanda's trial (which was set for May at this point)."


Someone told them not to go public yet IN MARCH. By late April, her facebook was completely private except for two professional beauty shots, both of which Brenda Blackburn "likes".

Anonymous said...

Let's back up again, as Kristi is alive and well for the time being...

What happened on 11/9/15?

HJ's words I rearranged are my speculation:

"I think it more likely Amanda called Amber and asked her to return early from holiday for moral support, and safety in numbers, because Davey was acting like a maniac (Worship as a Weapon weekend) - due to the pregnancy (Amanda's agenda), and so she avoids saying what Amanda said in the car - she does not want to share it, because she did not take her seriously, or seriously enough ... and was just conveniently at Mawmaw's when Davey made the alleged call confessing to attacking Amanda in a rage, and asking for - nursing, assistance and cleaning services? So she took her baby son along, while she did Amanda's laundry and put up a six foot Christmas tree, all while her sister lay dying, and all the while deciding not to call 911, because Davey is a pastor?"

It fits...except for the contaminated blog about the perfect day on the 9th, not published until eight weeks later.

Anonymous said...

Davey "peered" at Amanda on Monday 11/9/15, just before he rushed into the bathroom and kissed her goodbye.

And in his engagement blog, Davey "peered" at Kristi with a new interest.

Anonymous said...

Davey has deleted the "Would she still have said yes?" blog post.

Anonymous said...

The timing of a November 8th proposal is interesting. November 8 and 9 are probably filled with terrible memories, which have now been slightly offset.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Anon @12:47 pm.

Anonymous said...

Is it an attempt to ameliorate terrible memories or is it the taunting of a sociopath?

Anonymous said...

Why is dbag removing blog posts from his archives? Did anyone make copies?

mom2many said...

The engagement post is still there for me.

I noticed old links that were referenced here aren't working, but the posts are still there, if you look for them.

Trudy said...

Not the engagement post, mom2many, the " Would she still have said "yes"" post, in which Davey describes being asked this ludicrous question by his counsellor.

"If Amanda had known what was going to happen to her , would she have still said "yes" to moving to Indianapolis?"

Davey describes Amanda being on both knees beside the bed, bowing, in a posture of complete surrender, and Amanda looking at him and saying "I was praying that God would use us in a really big way" on the morning before she was murdered. That's how he knew Amanda would have said yes to being murdered.

mom2many said...

Oh, wow, you're right. I'm actually surprised he kept it up as long as it was.

Anonymous said...

I have a copy of the Would She Have Still Said Yes blog here:

https://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/04/4142016-would-she-have-still-said-yes.html

Anonymous said...

In 2005, Kristi's bio dad was charged with Battery in Indy.


No one has been charged with battery in the case of Amanda Blackburn.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what's with Anon's promotion from loser basement-dwellers to sitting in 'your house'"

Anon knows that someone has a baking oven, and those are generally not in the basement.

Bingo said...

Bobcat, glad you saved it. That was one of his most sociopathic, self-serving blogs ever. Interesting that he deleted it.

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Trudy said...

Im very glad you saved it, too. It was one of the worst. The "how is Weston doing?" was pretty bad too. Bobcat, do you know how many other blogs have been removed, and which ones?

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Anonymous said...

OT Perry Noble's "Unqualified" post:
https://www.facebook.com/nobleperry/posts/1529636680458151

...not pursuing dishonest gain...

( ) Think I’m good here - no drug deals, etc - BUT...I have bought a lottery ticket or two...that probably disqualifies me here!

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Trudy said...


The "how is Weston doing"? blog is still there. He wrote it because he was pissed off that people kept asking about Weston, taking the focus away from King Narcopath.

Some highlights.


..... there couldn’t have been a better time in Weston’s childhood for this kind of tragic event to occur.


.......Weston was young enough when everything happened that he doesn’t understand Amanda’s absence. Somewhere between month 15 (when we lost Amanda) and month 20 (when I’m writing this) Weston formed the ability to understand when someone is absent from his life. My parents tell me while I was in Israel he asked about me incessantly. He never asks for Amanda. I can’t explain this, other than when she was killed his cognitive memory hadn’t developed enough to remember that she was present. So now he doesn’t necessarily feel her absence.

Take note Kristi, if you read all the blogs and still want to marry this POS, you're as crazy as he is.

There's more. Much more. Davey should delete the entire blog. It makes him look like what he is. Bad. Very bad.

Anonymous said...

The other blog is there too. He updated something so the web addresses have changed.

Anonymous said...

Datalounge thread moved to:

http://support.zathyus.com/topic/7014855/1/

and

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/20026915-smoking-hot-pastor-and-dl-villan-davey-blackburn-managed-to-get-a-thread-deleted-again

Someone keeps deleting posts at both of these sites. Strange

Anonymous said...

Datalounge thread that was moved is working

http://w11.zetaboards.com/Zatalounge/topic/30400960/1/#new

My bad.

Anon @ 12:15 AM

Trudy said...

Haha. Apparently we are bitchier queens than the ones at DL. Quite the compliment!

People are saying DG was the driver. Maybe the thugs shared the driving because the confidential informant says that DG got out of the car and let JW drive back into the subdivision to pick up LT. (Not that I believe the CI).

I think Alonzo Bull was with the thugs.

I wonder if LT had planned on stealing one of the Blackburn's cars that was in the driveway, (Davey drove Amanda's car that morning) and flipped when he discovered it wasn't working; necessitating the unplanned step of the thugs, (who should have been long gone) going back to pick up LT. It's one of the weirder aspects of the case.

PS there are some indications in social media that Davey's car wasn't working, but about 8 weeks before the murder someone had given them a brand new car. Nobody seems to know what became of that car.

Anonymous said...

I think Davey attacked Amanda in the bathroom and she crawled to the side of the bed.
And it all happened in front of Weston.
She languished, and endured, for 24 hours.

Will God use Amanda's story to save Kristi?

Hey Jude said...

Someone on that new Data-Zata thread made this comment when posting Davey's 'Would She Still Have Said "Yes"?' blog:

'Davey had posted a creepy blog regarding Amanda...Would She Still Have Said Yes. He obviously thought she would be OK with rape and murder and would have said yes all over again. Strange since he posted the recent She Said Yes blog regarding new fiance Kristi.'

I find it worrying, potentially, that he chose a title which included the same words when there are so many other choices. It’s hard not to wonder what made him choose that. I wonder if Kristi is happy with Davey's choice of blog title, and aware of all the possibilities to which she might be assumed by Davey to be saying 'Yes', in agreeing to marry him. Davey does like to scheme and plan ahead, as illustrated by the long account which preceded his 'introducing' Kristi - he has already over-introduced her as this girl with a past which needs redeeming. Hopefully, her past will not be redeemed through her also becoming a sacrifice - on the possibly plus side, he did go on to say they would redeem their pasts together, but who knows quite what that could mean, to Davey? Is he in his next past with his next wife - or already thinking forward to the following one?

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Kristi is 'this girl' until after she has agreed to be his wife - only then does he introduce her name. Is he being ‘creative’ there, keeping the reader in suspense by not revealing her name until he has written about his proposal - or is the change in language due to a change in reality - if so, what is the change? Was she only ‘this girl’ in his mind, rather than Kristi, right up until she agreed to marry him? Is she still ‘this girl’, as that is how he has mostly described her throughout, despite knowledge they are to marry next month? I think it’s odd that the impersonal ‘this girl’ wasn’t dropped in favour of her name, at the point in the story at which he discovered her name.

He says he has ‘quickly’ fallen in love - not with Kristi romantically, but ‘with them both’, and he only says that toward the end, after Kristi has agreed to be his wife. That makes it seem he has only fallen in love with them subsequent to his proposal. If that were so, his motive for proposing would not have been because he had already fallen in love with Kristi. He has not said he has quickly become like a father to Natalia - but as the little girl already has a father, he may not be at liberty to say that or expected to assume the role - he says she is adorable.

I think it’s odd, even if intended for effect, because when people are in love they do keep saying the other’s name - ‘this girl’ seems distancing - it’s not as distancing as ‘that girl’ would have been, but I don’t think it much closes the gap.

He hasn’t said he loves Kristi - he has said he asked her to be his wife. He has ‘quickly fallen in love with them both’. I think, without having first made a distinctive declaration of love for Kristi, that what he is describing in a fluffy way is affection, the love friends have for their friends and their friends’ families.

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Ah, well - fingers crossed for them all, love grows, and it will be good for Weston to have a mummy and a sister, if not necessarily the greatest fun to grow up in a sweaty Crossfit gym. I don’t know why I’m saying that, I don’t even do fingers crossed - just can’t quite bring myself to say I’ll pray for them, ‘cause it might be like praying for success for Davey in all his scheming to become a mega-pastor..

Hey Jude said...

Bobcat - How do trees and crawling things, which remind Phil of Amanda, fit into that secenario?

Hey Jude said...

‘You see up to this point I was pretty convinced I didn’t want to pursue someone who also had what some could perceive as baggage. I was bringing quite a bit of it into any relationship myself—recovering from losing a wife to murder, a two-year old son, an internationally known story, and the inevitable reality that whoever stepped into a relationship with me wouldn’t be able to help feeling like they were living in Amanda’s shadow and under the scrutiny of everyone who was following the story. In fact, when I gave it any considerable thought, it seemed an almost impossible hurdle to overcome. For that reason, I would occasionally feel pretty hopeless about finding true love again.’


‘I’ll never forget driving in the car one day and weeping uncontrollably for thirty minutes straight as I headed back to my house. It all felt impossible. Everything. The story I was carrying. The pain buried deep inside. The feeling of being stuck in it and not knowing if I’d ever emerge back into a “normal” life.’

‘Since God called me to ministry I’d always wanted a wife who’s family understood the sacrifices that often must be made. I had that in Amanda’s family and definitely desired that in my next wife.’

‘“Wow. So you’ve been closely connected with our story for a while then, huh?” I peered at her with a new interest. You see, several months after Amanda passed I wrote something in my prayer journal:  Lord, if you ever bring me another wife here’s what I ask for, that she loves you more than she loves me, that she loves me, that she loves Weston, and that she loves Amanda. 
I knew that was going to be crucial because much of my life to come I’ll be sharing Amanda’s story and our journey through trial and tragedy.

It would take a special woman to step into that calling, a secure woman, someone who was grounded in her own identity with Christ and who wouldn’t merely be okay with me carrying the story but who would be able to help me champion it.’

Hey Jude said...

^^^ He is such a contradiction. Desperate for a return to 'normal' life, whilst wanting a next wife to help him champion the story of Amanda's awful murder for much of his life to come, therefore also hers,and those of their children. No thought of trying for a return to a normal life really.

Plus Kristi's family need to be aware that sacrifices need to be made - he desired that in his next wife.

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I saw that, too, Trudy - they are definitely worse. ;-)


Bingo said...

I watched a little bit of the sermon to see if he would mention the engagement. He didn't, just mentioned that they were dating and called her "babe". He talked about her friend inviting him on a booze cruise. He then compared himself to Jesus saying Jesus sat with sinners so he decided to go on the cruise.
Kristi, run, run, run!

Anonymous said...

I am just seeing the theory that he attacked Amanda the day before. What is that based on? Thanks.

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Hey Jude said...

I listened to the sermon twice - he's mostly using it to justify that he went on a booze cruise with Kristi and her friends. Despite Davey, hands went up all over the auditorium when he made his non-altar call. Will they still be there this time next year, though? God works in mysterious ways...

Anonymous said...

Why would an innocent man wonder if his relationship status would have any effect on the outcome of justice for his wife's murder?

Diano's next pretrial conference is scheduled for when Davey & Co. will be in Israel.

Will God use Amanda's story to save Kristi? I hope Phil isn't dreading losing another of his golden tipped pastor son-in-law's wives.

Anonymous said...

HJ,

The crawling fits in because it is what Amanda did as her survival "fight or flight" instincts took over, even though she was likely partially paralyzed from having her legs cut out from under her. Or was the paralysis due to the bullet blasting through her spinal cord on its way into her brain? In her delirium, her brain would pull together whatever it could for core survival. Breathe in, breathe out. Hyperventilate as blood loss shock set in...ha-ha-ha-ha, cheees, cheeees, cheeees, cackle...

The tree fits in because ... it could be a lot of variables. But it still fits.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what's with Anon's promotion from loser basement-dwellers to sitting in 'your house'...
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Bingo - the temptation to go and watch him would have been irresistible to me, if I lived in Indy. I expect it still is for some of his audience. I have noticed some older middle aged people there - they are surely not attending for the quality of the 'messages' - more for what he might not intend to say, or what weapons or cake ingredients he might next produce as visual aids. Failing that I think they must be special needs, or undercover police officers.

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There's no need to attend in person when he puts everything on social media.
His listeners/readers/viewers could be *anywhere*. I think someone interested might closely identify with Amanda, having bore her children at 27 and 29. Someone involved in church ministry and affiliated with many friends in religious life. Someone who was cherished by her husband as she raised their children into productive adulthood. Someone who heard a little boy say "My daddy hurt me" when transcribing a psychiatric session recording - a statement that no one else in the room heard, but she heard on the recording. Someone who listens carefully and remembers in freakish detail.

Anonymous said...

Someone who dated a baptist man, and had gay friends, someone who could tell that the baptist man was deeply deeply closeted and would not be a good choice for a husband.

Anonymous said...

Someone who has had a front row seat to the devastating trail of a sociopath. Someone who has cleaned up the carnage from a sociopath. Someone whose dander rises at the first sniff of a sociopath.



Unless one gets out into the world beyond the circles of those who loudly and continuously profess to be "In Christ", or those who hide behind Jesus, it's hard to imagine such a person.

It's a conundrum.

mom2many said...

I wonder if the question he posed was asked, not of the prosecutor, but his publisher. The timing of unveiling a new relationship would have far more effect on book sales rather than trials. There is an emphasis on the book in the post.

Hey Jude said...

I'd want to attend in person because I would be interested in seeing how he interacts with the Resonaters before and after the service - and how he is with his colleagues, if he respects them or regards them as minions, and how the young people respond to Davey and to his messages. I'd hang out for a coffee, if they have refreshments after services, and listen for what was said about Davey, and for how he spoke personally, to the young people. I'd want to know if Davey really is the draw, for those who attend, or if it's members of his staff and the worship team who have more rapport with the young people. All he puts on-line is Davey, but the church is bigger than Davey, and he advertises youth activities which may be of more interest than Davey's Sunday services. If I was a parent or grandparent of a young person who was determined to go,there, I might resign myself to having to attend too, till the interest wore off, and take the opportunity to try to influence Davey to teach more and talk about himself less. So, for some older people who live there, they might find a need to attend in person. Resonate might even stop seeming cool and 'dangerous' if your parent or grandparent attends...you can't be 'dangerous' and rebellious by going to Resonate if your grandma is sitting next to you. At least I doubt you can...

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Why so cryptic, Bobcat?

Are you referring to yourself?







Anonymous said...

Why cryptic? I don't want to be on the receiving end of Pajama Pages style harassment, or worse.

I have no interest in attending a Resonate service, no way. If I were to attend that style of service, I might consider listening to the Traders Point pastor who looked like he was recovering from seeing the devil during his Camelot is Burning sermon. Poor guy. He seemed sincere, at least. I hope the Newspring Celebration Circus didn't give him nightmares for too long.

I want to know what happened to Amanda on 11/9/15. Actually, I probably don't want to know, but I sure don't want Kristi to meet a similar fate.

Would She Have Still Said Yes?
She Said Yes!

Hey Jude said...

Well, to be fairer, not 'all' he puts on line is Davey - as now he also has the podcasts in which he interviews people, and sometimes there are guest speakers or interviews in place of the message. I was thinking mainly of the Resonate site, where mostly, it is Davey's messages, but aside from that ego-fest, he is making quite a good effort to also let others' voices be heard.

I hope it works out for Kristi and her daughter and Davey and Weston - if sincerely he believes he loves her, and she him, and if he intends to be a good husband and a good father figure to Natalia (within his questionable understanding of that, yes), and she a mother for Weston - it does sound as though they like one another's children. He may not know what love which leads to marriage is to other people, which might be why what he says doesn't sound as one would expect, yet he may still want and believe it to be true that he is in love. IDK. All that introduction, and his interest increasing with coincidence of Kirsty's contacts, does look like at least mixed motives. He has not said he loves Kristi,while he has said a lot about her fulfilling his list of requirements for a wife. As he said quite so much, he might have made a few words to say he loves HER, or he loves her so much. If it was just a short FYI announcement, it would not be necessary, but it's such a ramble, yet not in there - I don't think the announcement is only that long due to defensiveness. He had finished it either - more due on their proposal story. That's probably where he'll say he proclaimed his undying love for her, and would be ready to lay down his life for her, and to even lock the front door for her on a pretty regular basis - still will be a late addition.



Hey Jude said...

^ *He hasn't finished it either*

Hey Jude said...

Thanks to whoever posted this in Zara-Data forum - Megs has written, with response from Kristi:

megsgriff It’s real, it’s happening, and finally the world gets to meet this couple! These past two years I’ve watched @daveyblackburn grieve, fight with the Lord, and walk in faith in some of the darkest seasons of life so far ... and each season I’ve seen him choose to believe the best about God, trust in the purpose he has for him and lean into his word and promises even when they were unclear - and over the past months I’ve watched @kristi.monroy step into difficult situations and circumstances with courage, grace, and love & when other women would have run away she stood confidently and humbly. Which is why I’m so thankful that these two found each other! The Lord has fulfilled so many promises in both of their lives through their relationship together and has brought so much redemption and healing to their stories through their love for each other. I’m excited for the world to get to know them - to see their story unfold and I can’t think of a better way to honor my sweet friend @amandagblackburn than celebrating the faithfulness of Jesus, the restoration of family for her two favorite guys, and the good things he is working out of tragedy. I love your little family and can’t wait to see what God has for you in this next season!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

kristi.monroy Seriously sooo sweet!!!💕💕

pepper_berry Ah man...so sweet! I love how I've seen Resonate staff CELEBRATE these two👏🏼🙌🏼. Meg, you've got a way with words, girl. 💓

Hey Jude said...

'It's real, it's happening...'. Thanks for letting the world know, Megs.

'Darkest seasons of life so far' - missing pronoun. Can't say 'our', reluctant to say 'his'....?
*So far*. - reallupy? Could any seasons of life be expected to be darker?

'...over the past months I’ve watched @kristi.monroy step into difficult situations and circumstances with courage, grace, and love & when other women would have run away she stood confidently and humbly.' - that maybe is annoying to Megs.

She watches a lot, does Megs - 'I love your little family' - 'little' as a condescending description of the soon to be new family - or 'little' as the family as comprised by Davey and Weston? About to double in number.

'....can't wait to see what God has for you in this next season!!!' Plus excess of heart emojis. Let's hope it isn't one of those darker seasons.

I find it disturbing that Megs would say 'so far' - as though she might have an expectation of there being an even darker 'season' in Davey's life than that of the horrific murder of Amanda.

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If I ever replied as Kristi did, it would be quite likely to mean 'seriously, feck off'. - and that would be passive aggressive, yes.

Hey Jude said...

Is Megs a little obsessive about Davey - 'It's real, it's happening, and finally the world gets to meet this couple!'

Was she hoping it was not real, or happening?

IDK - that's the type of thing people say when finally they have tickets to a concert held by their favourite artist or rock band - but it's also the type of thing people say when something they don't want to be real, or happening, is happening - acknowledgement of what they had been in denial about is actually so.

All those exclamation marks and hearts make me think 'inauthentic public display of approval'.

Hey Jude said...

'Choose to believe the best about God' - what is that? That phrase is usually associated with people - one chooses to believe the best about a person who has given cause to doubt them. I don't think I have heard it used in relation to God - more usually it would be that one continues to have faith in God.

'I’ve seen him choose to believe the best about God, trust in the purpose he has for him and lean into his word and promises even when they were unclear -'

God's Word and promises are clear - it's Davey who creates confusion as in his alleged encounter with God in the shower. Also, in his engagement announcement, he said he 'sensed God telling him':

"I want to redeem your story, Davey. But maybe I also want to use you to redeem someone else's story."

'Maybe'. So God's a bit cryptic, and either prevaricating with himself to Davey, or a bit of a tease. Davey really needs to stop it.







Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Davey: "Since God called me to ministry I’d always wanted a wife who’s family understood the sacrifices that often must be made."

Given the fact that Davey and Amanda owned and lived in a fairly nice house by many people's standard (including mine). She was largely a stay-at-home wife, reclaiming and refurbishing furniture on the side, they had a baby and were expecting a second, amidst a whirlwind of weekly Date Nights, Anniversary Trips, vacations, regular forays to South Carolina to NewSpring events/retreats/weekends/ocnferences, lots of Girls Day mall shopping trips captured via Instagram & Twitter, home improvement projects, yearly gym membership for Davey (along with a weekly Starbucks habit), tickets to Cubs games, regular rounds of golf complete with all the equipment, and Amanda's penchant for decorating the house for each occasion with all the details just so. All on a beginning Pastor's salary with a start-up Church of less than 100 people in Indianapolis (and his early in part-time job coaching stint at the middle school)??? Somehow, that also afforded them premiums for several hundred of thousands of insurance for Amanda, as well as money to cover Maternity care and Weston's birth too.

What are these "sacrifices" that Davey references making? The only thing I see sacrificed was his pregnant wife, so that the Church (his Church) could live because it definitely wasn't- and still isn't growing explosively...even in spite of sacrificing Amanda. The story's old news now, buried under the tragedies of many other people who've died or lost loved ones in equally horrific ways (or more so)- not to demean or detract from Amanda's very tragic death and that of her baby. Davey doesn't have the market cornered on tragedy and certainly not grief, although he acts as though he does. He positions himself as if the loss he's "suffered" eclipses anyone else's and he's the leading authority on grieving. What he fails to realize is that the American public has moved on out of necessity. He really believes that he's so important- that he has a story to tell that is so "powerful" that he'll be catapulted to fame and fortune-on the back of his murdered wife and baby. He's done his level best networking, marketing, and promoting himself- making full use of that Communications degree. I predict it will fail miserably, just like Resonate Church- which is still woefully small and struggling to fill a third of an auditorium 6 years and 3 relaunches later.

Hey Jude said...

Wasn't God using Davey to redeem Amanda's story? Is there a pattern developing...?

' I knew she had a backstory, but I guess it was in my best interest not to get involved with someone who was also carrying something into the relationship. '

What is that 'but' about? Was it use of the backstory which was of interest to him?

'Carrying something into the relationship' - carrying. as in a burden - rather than 'bringing something into the relationship.' 'The relationship' rather than 'a relationship' or 'a new relationship' - was there already a relationship for him to say 'the relationship'? If not, he wanted there to be one, enough to have formed 'the relationship' potentially, in his mind?

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Isn't Meg rather too in there, passing all that comment on her boss's engagement, and writing stuff about Kristi's character?

'The Lord has fulfilled so many promises in both of their lives through their relationship together and has brought so much redemption and healing to their stories through their love for each other.' It's too personal, like she is trying to take a type of authority in saying rather personal sounding things. Prefacing it with 'The Lord' does not,make it okay. Is it just a way of intimating her intimacy with them both because she is a controlling type of person - like saying she knows all that stuff, so it's no surprise to her? Though it is - because it's real, it's happening, and Kristi didn't run away when she stepped in to difficult circumstances like the other girls would have...(or did - i.e. 'influx' of those who 'showed up'?).

Does anyone else find Meg's engagement announcement as unnecessary as it is excessive? She is literally sermonising. Is that because that is just what they all naturally do, due to being Resonaters?

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Enough of me, sorry - I got a bit carried away.

Anonymous said...

"It’s real, it’s happening, and finally the world gets to meet this couple!
I’m excited for the world to get to know them..."

Megan sure is excited to help roll out the chelebrity couple to "the world"!

And, similar to Davey announcing that the engagement is "true", the roll out is "real"!


Gag.

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Hey Jude said...

Too true, Fools, sadly - Amanda was the sacrifice. He doesn't get that it is not the type of 'story' which appeals - it is very frightening, and 'unhealthy' a scenario on which to invite an audience to dwell, and on which to attempt to build a ministry. He seems to think Amanda's story would appeal to and draw in sympathetic girls and young mothers - he lives on Planet Davey. I can't work it if he decided to concentrate on cake for a while because Amanda's story wasn't working, but girls and moms like cake.

Anonymous said...

"Bobcat said...

HJ,

The crawling fits in because it is what Amanda did as her survival "fight or flight" instincts took over, even though she was likely partially paralyzed from having her legs cut out from under her. Or was the paralysis due to the bullet blasting through her spinal cord on its way into her brain? In her delirium, her brain would pull together whatever it could for core survival. Breathe in, breathe out. Hyperventilate as blood loss shock set in...ha-ha-ha-ha, cheees, cheeees, cheeees, cackle...

The tree fits in because ... it could be a lot of variables. But it still fits. "





I am totally lost on this post. Amanda "did" as her survival? How are you so sure? And what does the "hahahah cheees cheees cackle" comment mean? I'm totally lost on what you're trying to say.

Anonymous said...

Is it true that he said something to the effect of Amanda gave her life for Jesus? Or sacrificed herself for the Lord? If so, that is effed up and very telling. She got murdered by evil money-grubbing thugs. It would be more credible if he preached reality - that there is evil in the world and people who love God have to fight evil. Not if evil people kill you, then you have actively sacrificed yourself. WTF!!

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Hey Jude- Reading your post, I think Davey has to accommodate other people's stories because he can only ride on Amanda's life of faith, her death, and his story of her death for so long. His strategy of parlaying it into mega-church world-renowned rich and famous evangelist isn't happening the way he expected or planned it would. There have been other, greater tragedies involving far more victims that have displaced "Amanda's story" from the front page. Davey's worked every angle he's got (press interviews, networking the NewSpring Church connections for personal appearances, personal blog/website, Church website, launching 2 albums, writing a book, weekly podcasts including setting up the Apple account, interviewing Church-world celebrities, engaging paid Church-world celebrity speakers to come to Resonate, etc.).

I'm slightly concerned that Davey's pattern appears to be when he's unable to cut it (making poor grades in Pastoral classes), he looks for a wife who has a genuine faith of her own (Amanda) to piggyback off of to use to further his career. He's very driven, but lacks the sincerity, faith, genuine humility, and real empathy and compassion for others to actually succeed as a pastor. Davey measure success in dollar signs and privileged, luxurious lifestyle. I wonder what Kristi does for a living.

Anonymous said...

Davey regarding Kristi:

"This made me want to talk to her even more!
[ ] And it made me want all the more to learn more about her!
[ ] And yet, I wanted to get to know her.
[ ] AND YET I STILL FOUND MYSELF WONDERING ABOUT THIS GIRL IN THE BACK OF MY MIND."



Peter Hyatt regarding repetition:

This is where people often feel to ask within themselves, "who is this person trying to convince; me or himself?"

Anonymous said...

"I am totally lost on this post. Amanda "did" as her survival? How are you so sure?"

Multiple statements made by Davey and Amanda's family members have convinced me that Amanda languished throughout the day on 11/9/2015 as a result of a brutal attack by Davey that morning. I believe the burglary on 11/10/15 was a coverup/setup crime.


"And what does the "hahahah cheees cheees cackle" comment mean?"

Those are noises a hyperventilating (shock) and/or dying person makes. Noises that Davey and Amber have described Amanda making - many attributed to 11/9/15.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/09/how-was-amandas-respiration-on-november.html

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/08/was-amanda-incapable-of-walking-before.html

Hey Jude said...

Fools - yes, a story like Amanda's is not news for long. It is not giving the mileage Sacey expected on the church circuit either, it is probably very perplexing to him to realise that other people don't share his fascination with real-life horror. Also, there are more and less 'tasteful' tragedies - Amanda's murder, and his description 'face down in a pool of blood' while he didn't help her, is not what people want to hear.

Kristi, nbelieve, has a career in the medical field - I don't remember what her title is, but if she continues to work, she will become the chief provider, no doubt.

Hey Jude said...

Sacey -Davey

Hey Jude said...

Anon @ 8.59 - yes. If you search this blog for all the articles about the Blackburn murder, you will find much of interest. There is an analysis of a sermon which Davey preached at his father in law's church a few weeks after the murder, in which Davey claims God spoke to him in the shower and told him that Amanda died so that his church could live - you might like that one first, but there is so much more.

Hey Jude said...

Anon - here is one - search 'Davey Blackburn shower' for more.

https://statement-analysis.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/davey-blackburn-deception-indicated.html

Wanderer said...

" Bobcat said...

"I am totally lost on this post. Amanda "did" as her survival? How are you so sure?"

Multiple statements made by Davey and Amanda's family members have convinced me that Amanda languished throughout the day on 11/9/2015 as a result of a brutal attack by Davey that morning. I believe the burglary on 11/10/15 was a coverup/setup crime.
"



Wow, just wow. I'd never even considered that. I know Davey is creepy, really creepy and think he had something to do with this but not hands on. Wow.

What is it that they've said or done that makes you think that? Especially Amanda's sister?


I get what you mean about the sounds of death. I've heard 2 people die in front of me.

Trudy said...

Oy vey. The shower scene.

"I had a thought this morning in the shower. And felt like the Lord spoke to my heart and said: 'Davey, I want my church, I want my bride to come alive. And if I had asked you, Davey, before this if you were willing to give up your bride so that my bride can come alive, what would you have said?

Of course, like anybody else I said 'absolutely not. There is no way.' I'm good with being married and having two little kids, pastoring a church of 120 for the rest of my life. I am good with comfort. And the Lord said, 'That's why I didn't ask you the question before."
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Psyche! Well played, God. Oh, you big trickster.

Davey would have said "no" but he's certain that Amanda would have said "yes" to being murdered.

What will Davey do if God asks him to give up Kristi so that God's "bride can come alive" again.

#runkristirun

I'd love to hear a psychologist weigh in on crazy Davey's brand of crazy.




Anonymous said...

I wonder if dbag bought Kristi a new engagement ring, or just recycled his dead wife's half a carat.

Anonymous said...

Wanderer,

There is SO much background it can't be explained in a single blog reply.

Start reading here, and check out links in comments:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/photos/?tab=album&album_id=308973289517983


https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/


http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/09/how-was-amandas-respiration-on-november.html

Anonymous said...

Amanda's father Phil has leaked "shower" four times (that I know of) when talking about Amanda's death.



So, how does Davey's engagement blog match up with his three "How Do You Know When You've Found "The One" Blogs?

http://daveyblackburn.com/blog/found-the-one
http://daveyblackburn.com/blog/found-the-one-two
http://daveyblackburn.com/blog/found-the-one-three

Anonymous said...

I read part of the third "found the one" blog and he is adamant about dating at least a year before getting married. So much for that rule, I guess. His blogs are just so creepy I can hardly stand reading them. It must be painful for Amanda's loved ones to read parts of that "she said yes" blog. Especially the part where he says his lust for Kristi outweighed his sadness for Amanda.

Hey Jude said...

Anon - he didn't say his lust for Kristi outweighed his sadness for Amanda, he said, as something like a subtitle, but to close a paragraph:

'THE CONNECTION I FELT WITH THIS GIRL SEEMED TO OUTWEIGH THE SADNESS I FELT WITH THE ABSENCE OF AMANDA.' -

- he did not enlarge upon the claim, probably because it is not true that he feels sadness 'with the absence of Amanda' - so far as it is possible to ascertain, he has been feeling largely jubilant. It's all in the past tense, too - I know he is telling the story of his courtship - not going out for a meal - then getting someone else to take Kristi to the ballet - and keeping it all 'under the table' - but if I were Kirsty I'd prefer that bit to have jumped into the present tense, just to be sure he still felt a 'connection' with this girl, in view of my impending marriage to him... but perhaps I am too critical, and putting it into the present tense would have spoiled the historic aspect.

He doesn't say. 'I love her so much, I can't live without her' - rather they both were ready to dump each other, had they met with parental opposition - he makes it sound that way:

'We approached those two weeks knowing it was make or break for us. We knew we had this sense that we'd either come out of those two weeks and hit the gas pedal on our relationship or we'd pump the brakes altogether.'

So, well - there we go. Another thing to add to the list of requirements. The first stated - good taste in music - then she has to love Jesus. The first priority is so trivial, one wonders at the real importance of the second.









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Hey Jude said...

I wonder what it means when someone likens their relationship to driving a car - is it too simplistic to think he regards it as a vehicle?

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Also wondering, along with whoever wondered earlier, if an 'early' May baby might be the reason for his so quickly falling in love with them both - after the marriage proposal. 'Let us not engage in such unnecessary speculation', I hear myself saying.... but you do have to wonder. Sorry about the white space, I am trying to backspace it out, but it only works some of the time - my iPad is glitching.

Anonymous said...

I believe that she is a Physician Assistant which is a 6 figure salary.

Anonymous said...

The median is around $98,000. Still good.

Trudy said...

If you're on a date and your girlfriend's young daughter and your three year old toddler are complaining that they are tired and want to go home, you should take them home, not push them back into the child's play area until the restaurant closes. I looked up closing times for Chik Fil A - they close at 10pm. Davey should be ashamed of himself, but for some reason he thinks that it makes a cute, romantic story.

Amanda was into Babywise - which proscribes particular sleeping schedules for babies and young children - but she's not around any more, and now Weston is at the mercy of his narcopath father.

PS. Don't take your 3year old to a Crossfit gym, to be babysat by your new girlfriend's 5year old daughter, while the two of you work out together, either. It is selfish and irresponsible.


Trudy said...

*Prescribes, not proscribes.

Trudy said...

Some context for my comment, from DB's latest blog.


" So, naturally, I used my kid to angle some time with her. Much to her hesitation, she and I would coordinate when she was coming to Crossfit and bringing her daughter so that I could bring Weston and they’d have a buddy to play with while we worked out. I wish I could say my motives were altruistic. I really just wanted to be around this girl any moment I could."

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"Despite this twist in the night, this girl and I remained at Chick-Fil-A with our kids. In fact, we closed the place down! Three or four times the kids came out of the play place complaining they were tired and ready to leave. "Just a little while longer, kids!" We'd say as we shooed them back into the play place. Both of us were captivated by our conversation. It was about the time the Chick-Fil-A employees started mopping around our feet that we got the hint it was time to leave."

Trudy said...

By the time he wrote the "How do you know when you've found the one? blog, he had already met Kristi, and was pursuing her. He was well and truly ready to date again less than 10months after Amanda's murder. But that doesn't sound too good, so hey, why not lie about it?

Weston, about a year after your mom passed your Uncle Gavin and Aunt Amber and I were having a conversation about marriage. They were asking me when I felt like I would be ready to start dating again. Gavin made a statement that I’ll never forget. He said, “Davey, you’ll know when God has brought you the right woman if you just can't live without her.”

The blog is written under the guise of being advice for Weston when he is adult, but really is a sort of instruction manual for Kristi.

His advice is obviously unsolicited by his toddler - so I had a laugh at this line.

"Lord knows we live in a culture where people think they have a right to share their opinion just because they have one. This act of propagating unsolicited opinions, my son, is called immaturity. ". Hahahaha.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

It's a bit unnerving (not to mention cold, dispassionate, and distasteful) that Davey when Davey compares what he feels for Kristi, he couches it as "the absence of Amanda"...as if she just went away for awhile to visit relatives or something of her own volition without regard for him.

- "Absence of Amanda", not loss of Amanda or even death of Amanda. Wow, what a guy! What a husband! What a Pastor! NOT. Davey seriously lacks self-awareness and it appears to be getting worse as he ages. I'm guessing none of his subjects in the kingdom called Resonate have the courage to tell the Emperor that he has no clothes on. That's the trouble with idol worship- just as in Rome the priests would rather eat the food sacrificed to the idol than admit to the people (or let the people see) that the idol was fake. Why? Because the priests lived well and profited in the shadow of the idol.

Hey Jude said...

Bobcat - Kenneth, who is embraced by Davey as his best friend, said this, if you recall, which supports that 'it happened last night.'

“I got a phone call, that explained what had happened to Amanda, and they had said it happened last night and I said “It’s impossible, because I talked to Davey this morning. It’s impossible.” I began to hope, and pray that it was impossible, that it wasn’t, reality. The texts begin to flood, the calls begin to flood and I realize that it was the truth.”

Texts and calls began to flood - and I realize that it was truth.' You commented at the time that Kenneth was very deliberate in what he said there.

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It's very strange how Kenneth has not revised or clarified that statement, if he now believes it happened while Davey was at the gym, and not During the night. I wonder what really he thinks about his 'alibi' tweet, and if he will ever say if it was spontaneous, or if Davey had asked him to make it, and if Davey stayed on the phone for the whole call, or if he left the call hanging at all, or believed that Davey might have been moving around, and inside his house during any of the call.

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I don't see how the tree fits in the bathroom. Can you clarify on that?




Bobcat said...

Phil, Amber, and Davey are the ones to ask about the tree.

And, what happened to Amanda in the bathroom?

Or don't ask, and pray for Kristi, that she keeps her poise, humility, and taste in music.

Hey Jude said...

I think, as Davey had a way of giving Amanda the silent treatment, that they might not have been on proper speaking terms throughout the Monday, or when he got her from Mawmaw’s, which could account for there being no conversation between Amanda and Davey at Mawmaw's (Amber's account), or from Davey's account in regard to Amanda that day, and later. If that were so, when the silence was broken, what either said might not be something Amber or Davey would be willing to recount, As I recall, Davey, at some point, went to lengths to say how glad he was that he and Amanda were not on bad terms leading up to time when she died - which would make that claim sensitive. I do take on board that Amanda might have been left for dead at the point of the 'goodbye' in the bathroom - if so, I don't think it was Monday morning, due to Amber spending the day with Amanda - I would put that as early Tuesday, but the rest of what he said he did I believe was Monday.

He claimed that that night, Monday, Amanda was ‘like, laughing hysteric’ at Dumb Finds on Instagram. I think she was making hysteric-like sounds at that time, because that is how he describes them - like, laughing hysteric - only ‘like’ laughing hysteric, so some hysterical-type sound. I disagree that a death rattle is like any type of laughter, or that a death rattle would be likely to be heard by neighbours, or by a passerby, given the house is detached and set back a fair way from the pavement/sidewalk. If it was heard, however, I don’t agree it could be mistaken for hysterical laughter. I think the sound he is trying to cover was a hysteria reaction from Amanda, but not that laughter caused the hysteria - he said ‘gut laugh’ - and he later told Jono ‘she took a beating, how bad? - bad.’ The three, when they were arrested, didn’t claim that there had been a beating,nor have they since - neither did the police? It was Davey who told Jono, at the hospital that Amanda had ‘taken’ a beating.

"And that night we went to bed, and, she was watching, dumb finds on Instagram, like, laughing hysteric, I’ve never heard, like jus, gut laughing, you know? And, and I was like, would you, I’m trying to go to bed, I’m, would you stop laughing? You know? Like I’m trying to sleep, I’m trying to read so I can fall asleep, and she’s like “hahaha” like I’ve never seen her more carefree and happy, but listen, I was annoyed with it. Know why? I didn’t know that I only had 3694 days. I thought I had another day…to appreciate the annoying things."

Well, people don’t generally appreciate the annoying things - annoying things tend to remain annoying. They don't predict the exact number of days they expect their spouse to live, either.

Hey Jude said...

Continued…

In my experience, the death rattle is not 'hysteric' or so loud as to be likely to be heard by passing dog-walkers or neighbours. It is loud so as to be heard across a room.

My witness of the death rattle - one through the sudden death of my father - he had a massive heart attack. 'Sudden' seems like an inaccurate description, though in reality, it was probably only fifteen or twenty minutes from the time he collapsed till when he died, maybe not that long, but it seemed like a long time. He turned blue, like ink, and was making the rattling sounds for some time before his breathing stopped altogether - at least once I thought he had died, then he started breathing again. The sound was more gurgle like than a dry rattle.

The others have been of deaths of several elderly relatives, who died slowly over days after long or shorter illnesses - one at home, others in hospital - they were all heavily dosed with morphine, and their death 'rattles' were similar to each other - quite loud and steady, other times erratic, with stops so you wonder if they have died, and periods of shallower quieter breathing, before the rattle resumes. As they are none similar deaths to how Amanda died, I can't know if the type of sounds would be similar, but I do know that the death rattles I have heard have not been comparable to any type of laughter.

An 'hysteric like' reaction caused by fear and pain would be more likely to be heard at a distance. I think Davey made up the Dumb Finds story to cover the possibility that Amanda was heard screaming, or made some type of fear and panic-induced sound. I think that is when the initial attack on Amanda happened, and that she was most likely sleeping, or getting ready to sleep, when it began.

Wanderer said...

Bobcat I checked all the links you gave at November 18, 2017 at 12:14 AM. I see that Debbie chick is totally deluded and why is she so invested in Davey??? It's bizarre. But I haven't read anything that makes me think Davey or Amanda's sister had anything to do with it, or earlier that what has been reported. I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

Anonymous said...

I do take on board that Amanda might have been left for dead at the point of the 'goodbye' in the bathroom - if so, I don't think it was Monday morning, due to Amber spending the day with Amanda - I would put that as early Tuesday, but the rest of what he said he did I believe was Monday.

Amanda might have been left for dead in the bathroom, but she "rose up" and crawled to the bed...
AND
Amber spent Monday with her, but it wasn't at Traders Point.

The Trader's Point stories are guilty knowledge indicators of alibi building.

This is my opinion based on public statements made by Davey Blackburn and Amber Wilkinson.

Hey Jude said...

Can anyone say from where came the story that Davey intended, or had tried, to drive Amanda's car to the gym on Tuesday morning- but as it was not going well, he drove his own? Is that so? I thought Amanda's car must have been left at Mawmaw's because Davey had taken Amanda and Weston home in his car. At least he had loaded 'the car' - giving the impression they all travelled home in one car. I don't know who said Davey intended to drive Amanda's car to the gym, or if it is true. If either car was left at Mawmaw's, it can't be true he attempted to drive Amanda's car, but then drove his own, to the gym.
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Bobcat - it was not said that the bedroom or bedding was bloody, though I know not all details of the crime scene are known. I thought more Amanda was propped, restrained on the bed, at which point there was no blood. He is quite houseproud.


'Amber spent Monday with her, but it wasn't at Traders Point.'

What about the video of Amanda and Weston and Amber at Traders' Point - I can't believe the investigation would not have included checking out Amanda's whereabouts on the last day of her life - or her last 'appearance' in public, as Robin put it. Why did she say that, and why she did phrase it that way? I think that may have been found to be the last cctv image of Amanda - at Traders' Point on Monday afternoon with Amber. It is strange that Robin said that as it is in public contradiction to Amber's claim that she and Amanda went shopping and to Starbucks after they had left Traders' Point and dropped the children at Mawmaw's. I think Starbucks would be very likely to have cctv, and car parks - as such places are public, Amanda at Trader's point was not, according to Amber, Amanda's last appearance in public.

The bit where Amanda and Amber exited the car park at Traders' Point - Amanda apparently racing to get to Mawmaw's, does look like a need to explain (explain what? - I think possible exterior cctv from Traders point, or eye witnesses). I don't think mothers do the girl racer thing with children in their cars - plus Amanda's car had very recently had a speeding ticket - don't know if she was driving it - I can't think she'd want another. Why, if the time spent at Traders' Point was fabricated, would it include a need to explain Amanda making a hasty exit from the car park?

If there is no later cctv, and if they didn't go shopping, then I do wonder if Davey turned up at Traders' Point,, and if Amanda was racing away from him, and if he followed her to Mawmaw's, from where eventually he made her go home, when perhaps she had not wanted or intended to go home. It is strange that Mawmaw is absent from Amber's account of their time spent at Mawmaw's - the family dinner might have cooked itself.

The last words Amber attributes to Amanda, are those she said to Audrey, as she drove from Traders Point. After which, Amanda jumped in leaves with Weston, had a family dinner ('eating her small healthy meals like she always did when she was pregnant') sat on the sofa and laughed as Davey chased Weston round Mawmaw's living room.

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Most deception is through missing and withheld information. Fabrication is rare -. is it not more likely Amber and Amanda were at Traders Point, but also that there is much withheld information about that day?

If they did not go shopping after Traders Point, that would be direct fabrication.

I don"t know what Robin means by public appearance - she may mean in a church based setting, where Amanda was known as a pastor's wifet, but that would be strange to say. It is strange - performers appear - Jesus appeared to his disciples.

Anonymous said...


“Anonymous Wanderer said...
Bobcat I checked all the links you gave at November 18, 2017 at 12:14 AM. I see that Debbie chick is totally deluded and why is she so invested in Davey??? It's bizarre. But I haven't read anything that makes me think Davey or Amanda's sister had anything to do with it, or earlier that what has been reported. I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?”


Why would you assume you’re missing anything?

Are you people so deluded here and invested in the Davey-murdered-Amanda theory that you put any credence whatsoever in the utter fan-fiction that bobcat regurgitates?

There is no evidence Davey was involved, yet, bobcat creates a story (that is now so far-reaching, it involves Amanda’s family) based on fantasy (bobcat’s) and “analyzes” to fit her bizarre twists and turns.

Participants in this thread have dwindled from many to a mere handful. The reasons for that are at least two-fold—the murder has, indeed, been solved (no “squealing” lol from the murderers to point fingers at Davey. His name has not been mentioned by them. Imagine that!). Also, reasonable people know bobcat’s theories originate from cray-cray.

It has been mentioned by the crazies here that they’re sure LE reads this thread and will soon put it all together and arrest Davey. Odd, isn’t it , how a few blog commenters can solve a murder (that has already been solved) from their homes with no more evidence than what they read online? LE, meanwhile, has access to evidence these geniuses here can’t imagine.

Oh, but it will all come out in a dramatic Matlock-like surprise finish at “the trial” (which one, BTW?).

Yeppers. If (BIG IF) LE has read any of this, you can bet your big asses it’s huge comic relief for them.

Anonymous said...

Does it occur to any one of you that there is a certain level of evil here in pointing fingers at grieving family members?

It shows the naive and deluded nature of this group.

Trudy said...

" I drove a 1999 Mercury Mountaineer and Amanda drove a 1997 Honda Civic."(from DBs blog)

The affidavit of probable cause says Davey was driving a black 1997 Honda Civic on the morning of the 10th November, 2015.

Bingo said...

I can see Amber wanting to protect Davey and I can see him manipulating her but I have a hard time thinking that Amber would let 3 men go to jail for murder if she knew better. Also, I would think someone would have told the police by now that they walked into an already beaten Amanda. The one thing that is unsettling is that she was beaten. That is so personal. I just don't know what to think.

The biggest question I have is if Larry walks and pistol whips Amanda and leaves her in the house, then why does he say he shot her because she charged at him. If she was well enough to charge at him, then she was well and able enough to call 911 in the minutes he went back out and talked to the other thugs. There is some cover up or storytelling going on somewhere to what actually happened that morning.

Bobcat said...

HJ,

All of this has been beaten to death (no pun intended) two months ago here in these comments, before you assigned a blue pill.

Verbal statements by Davey et al are weighted over Amber's contaminated alibi statements. Davey omits, Amber fabricates. Her statements regarding Trader's Point are contaminated and set aside.

There is not evil in SA. There is opinion and there may be error. As Peter says something to the effect - show me my error. If I am wrong, I am 100% wrong.

The Woody Allen defense has been discounted. I can't answer for IMPD.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jude @ November 18, 2017 at 11:56 PM, it's convenient that Amanda's computer was stolen, Davey probably hoped it would never be found so nobody could look at Amanda;s browsing history, but it was found. Not sure if the lazy LE officials bothered to check the computer. Probably not.

Bobcat said...

I wonder what verbal footage Newspring has of Davey and Amber that didn't make the cut for the celebration service.

Anonymous said...

To anon @10:30

I should? Why? Because you prefer that, or because you’re applying your faulty approach to analysis?

Sometimes, people only know enough to be dangerous, as the saying goes.

Vee said...

4:02@ you really butchered that quote.

I'm assuming you are misquoting Alexander Pope, "A little learning is a dangerous thing", which is how the saying actually goes. Never mind, to err is human. (Pope, again.) ;)

Anonymous said...



You would do well to research ... even moderately, and you would see that it is said both ways. What....is it new to you or something? Probably.

“A little learning ” has also been paraphrases d over time as “a little knowledge.” Either/both are and have been used, and there is virtually no difference 0in meaning. the original was, indeed, “a little learning,” but far from “butchering” it, I simple used an acceptable version of the original quote.


Google Quora, for instance, where it will tell you:

“The phrase is usually quoted as "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"; it may have originated as "a little learning is a dangerous thing":

A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again.

The implication is that a small amount of knowledge can lead to overconfidence, leaping to invalid conclusions based on what you do know without taking into account the things that you don't know. It's contrasted with a large amount of knowledge, which would presumably lead one to be more cautious or to at least draw better conclusions.

It's not generally intended to imply that "even a little knowledge" is a dangerous thing.”


Don’t be stupid. Research.

Tell me the difference between “learning” and “knowledge” as it is used in that quote. People’s comprehension levels are so lacking.

This is why you’re so poor at SA.

Vee said...

It's a misquote of Alexander Pope from his Essay on Criticism. I am well aware that it is frequently misquoted. Take the opportunity to learn something, instead of trying to shoot the messenger. You're welcome.

Vee said...

It's OT but misquotes from literature interest me.

"To gild the lily" for example, is a misquote from Shakespeare's "to paint the lily" or "music hath charms to sooth a savage breast" is frquently misquoted as ...."the savage beast). There's plenty more. The fact that they are frquently misquoted is interesting, but they're still misquotes.

Mondegreens interest me as well, and often make me laugh. I hadnt thought about them in relation to SA.




Hey Jude said...

Bobcat, I did not say there was evil in statement analysis.

I sometimes think you are too hasty in drawing your conclusions, and that when you say ‘statement analysis shows this’ of a statement, what you mean is that your own analysis draws you to that conclusion - but I don’t often hear you say that a trained Statement Analyst might draw a different conclusion - I don’t know if you have ever written that. Also, you could make clearer that not all your conclusions have been drawn through analysis of the statement. i.e ‘like, laughing hysteric’ equals ‘death rattle’, when it does not.

I don’t know what to make of your belief that Amanda languished for twenty-four hours, crippled, and unable to breathe properly, and possibly that she was also hanged.

I don't know why you are so certain that Davey attacked Amanda in the bathroom - or anywhere - on Monday morning. Without that certainty, I have no basis for going on to believe that Amanda languished for twenty-four hours, or that Amber spent the day with a dying Amanda, all the while denying her medical treatment.

I’m not saying all that is incorrect, as I don’t know. I don’t understand what makes it correct - if it is.

Anonymous said...

Quora is not a credible source of infor. Quora is a forum, just like yahoo answers; the information is frequently incorrect - as in the example provided by anonymous at 5.58.

Wanderer said...

Ok after reading all of this, I am not missing something, Bobcat is. A real grounding and legitimacy in calling what she does Statement Analysis. If she cannot describe in a nutshell her SA backed theories here, it can never be done in court, or a police station.

FB connections are one thing, conclusions that Amanda was beaten and kept like that by her sister for a whole day based on what she thinks is SA, is utterly preposterous. Stick to the FB connections Bobcat.

Vee said...

Yeah, well SA is like a polygraph - inadmissible as evidence, anyway, Wanderer. So there's that. Perhaps you could do your own research into SA and the statements of Davey etc. instead of expecting to be spoon fed. Have you read Peter's analysis?

Hey Jude said...

^ Statement Analysis in Court

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/statement-analysis-in-court.html

Also, SA, IS permissible as evidence in court in some countries

Anonymous said...

Yeah. Not really the point. Bobcat has done her own SA and arrived at her own conclusions. My conclusions are different. Do your own work is the point.

Look at the facts of the case.

Vee said...

Poygraphs are admissible, in some cases, if both parties agree.

Vee said...

* both parties = Defense and prosecution.

Hey Jude said...

Bobcat said, in a comment on her blog:

In Domestic Homicides, when the killer is speaking, there is a bizarre 'silencing' of the victim which is seen in the statement, and can point to an exact time of death. Words are very important in domestic homicides because they often are the final trigger in a hot blooded (non premeditated) killing; the victim 'proved her point', (especially if she stood up to a controlling man with hx of DV) and he must 'silence' her, that is, take her life away (asphyxiation is often indicated, along with blunt force trauma) as the words set him in rage. If there is a 'change' in how he relates to her, analysts should ask themselves,

"Is she no longer alive at this point?" and see if the statements following the point bear it out, weaken it, or are neutral to this assumption. It often creates an 'eery silence' effect that can go unnoticed, but once pointed out, seems to show a demarcation in time that is very strong and she is never referenced in the same way again. Sometimes it is 'she said that...' is used, but suddenly, there is no quotes or any reference to her speaking to him, or speaking to anyone else (including phone).

https://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/07/example-of-analysis-brooks-houck-in.html

----

Bobcat, you keep asking what others think happened on the 9th. I can see why you think Amanda was incapacitated - she does not seem too present to Davey, conversationally. He also does not refer to her by name even once in narratives where her name should be - Amanda has become 'she'.

My question is - could that be due to Davey being angry with her - the lack of anything conversational due to their not being on speaking terms? I think there was some conversation that morning, because he says there was - also,that he 'honestly' couldn't remember much of it. So, does he remember some of a conversation, but is unwilling to share it because they argued?

Hey Jude said...

I'm posting this here for later. I have some more thoughts/questions but not the time now to post them now. Does anyone else want to comment more on this - I know it's already been done.

15:15  And I remember like, getting up, and having all this, to-dos in my- swirling around my brain.  I'm like, I got- I gotta go do this, I gotta, drop this thing off, I gotta run this errand, I gotta, take care of this, I gotta go meet with this person, right.  So I get up, get my shower, you know, get ready to go.  Weston’s up, she’s up with Weston, and she’s kinda taking it slow, Monday morning.
And um, I don’t really remember much about our conversation, honestly.  I don’t remember much about what was going on.  All I remember is I had all these things in my head of all this stuff that I needed to do, all these, uh, this agenda that I needed to take care of.  And so I, you know, rush into the bathroom while she’s, getting ready and I, kiss her goodbye, and I, walk out of the house.  And, n-and I spent the rest of that day, doing things.  ( ) Pushing the ball forward.  ( ) Building a church.  ( ) Meeting with people.  ( ) Pouring myself out.  [3 second pause with finger over mouth]

^ from Boncat's blog

Hey Jude said...

I can't find it now, but of related interest, I think, is the talk where Davey said how glad he was they were on good terms, and had good times in the period leading up to Amanda's death. I think a lot of that was in the negative - at the time I thought they were probably not on good terms.

Vee said...

Good piece of snippet,, HJ. And Co. Why is DB describing Monday morning when Amanda was fatally injured on Tuesday? Great question.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the posters who said that we should really be focusing on the evidence, ie the FB connections and the gym connection to the gang. Doctors would have known if Amanda was seriously injured on the 9th instead of the 10th. And there is video of Amanda on the 9th. I can see a scenario where one of the other gang thugs went early on the 10th and shot Amanda in the back of the head, using a silencer (could be why Davey was late that morning). There has never been any follow-up to the black SUV that was seen speeding down the street within minutes of Davey leaving for the gym. Larry Taylor and Jalen could have come after Amanda was already shot in the head. Taylor follows orders, as has been shown, so he could have been told to shoot her two more times (the neighbors only heard 2 shots) before the other 2 thugs came to get him. This could explain Amanda not attempting to get help when all 3 thugs were outside of her house for several minutes.

Anonymous said...


"A neighbor heard possible gunshots between 6:45 a.m. and 6:55 a.m. Tuesday and home security video shows a dark SUV speeding from the neighborhood, Hench said, Because "sizeable" televisions and a laptop were taken from the burglarized house, he said investigators believe those items "were likely loaded into a vehicle," suggesting that others might have been involved."


Anonymous said...

Is there video of Amanda crawling around on the 9th, or just at Trader's Point?

Anonymous said...

Amber didn't have motive to have Amanda killed - Davey did. Amber didn't have a huge life insurance policy on Amanda - Davey did. Amber didn't have a church that could not keep more than a handful of members - Davey did. Amber didn't need to pay back $100,000 in seed money for a church plant - Davey did. Amber didn't complain about her sex life and partner's inadequacy - Davey did. Amber didn't have connections to the thugs - Davey did.

I think Amber's writing is really strange and she definitely embellishes quite a bit but I don't see that as signs that she had knowledge that the murder was going to take place or that she was involved in the cover-up.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:38

What cover-up?

Anonymous said...

The cover-up of pinning the murder solely on a rogue Larry Taylor.

Bobcat said...

The motive for assisting in a cover-up or clean-up is protection of image. The Byars are special, perfect, and "golden-tipped" (Phil's words). Their son-in-law Davey did not harm Amanda, could not, would not, and did not ... even if he really did.

Regardless of Phil's dread, Kristi be damned.

Anonymous said...

Lol

Funnier and funnier

A bunch of fake “detectives” creating their own story, often using group writing, then elaborating and reenforcing by stretching information to fit their far-out theories.

Despite the FACT nothing has connected Davey to the murder, even subtly, that doesn’t stop this deluded bunch. Far from being investigators, this bunch is woefully lacking in the skills required for that.

Although you fakes are deeply sold on Davey murdering Amanda, to date, nothing has shown that to be true. There is no evidence to base your “work” on. Of course, that’s a minor glitch in your story writing, but unfortunately for you mental deficients, an important one.

Anonymous said...

I always laugh when this fantasy “analysis” is characterized as “work.”

“Thank you for your fine work on this case....”



Lol. Lord.

Anonymous said...

Angry anon needs a "Sweet Amanda" milk and cookie break.
Hopefully there will be some at his Thanksgiving feast.

Anonymous said...

Where do you see anger in me? I’m amused at you people.

The anger is your own.

Hey Jude said...

Not 'even subtly'.

I like that, even though the sentence works fine without it.

Hey Jude said...

Well, Anon - I see anger in you here:

'Bunch' - 'deluded bunch' - 'mental deficients'. 'You people'.



Anonymous said...

"Not even subtly." Lol.

Anonymous said...

Woefully lacking in skills, fakes,

Anonymous said...

Angry anon seethes with rage, as one who has sand in her crack. I find it amusing. Lol.

Anonymous said...

Lol!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Hey Jude said...
Well, Anon - I see anger in you here:

'Bunch' - 'deluded bunch' - 'mental deficients'. 'You people'.





That’s anger? Well, ya see, that’s the problem with you analysts. It’s done from your own life perspective. You can’t define others’ statements by applying your own limited perspective. I said those things as my honest assessment of this crew. Anger is not involved, except from you, apparently. Understandable.

Anonymous said...

Spitting abuse every time you post is a pretty clear indicator of rage. Hose the sand out or don't, Anon. Your angry tears are delicious.

Anonymous said...

"Well, ya see, that’s the problem with you analysts."

NOW, we're "analysts"??? Why the upgrade?

Anonymous said...

daveyblackburnI took this babe to the Bama/LSU game a few weeks ago and showed her around my hometowns of Birmingham and Tuscaloosa. Joining two pasts can be complicated but if you approach it correctly it can also be full of adventure!

kristi.monroyLove you babe!!!

Blecch. Davey and his new victim, I mean girlfriend, on holidays yet again, smiling and calling each other "babe". Woohoo.

I guess there was no memorial visit to Amanda and Evie's grave on the 2nd anniversary of their deaths. Too soon forgotten. RIP Amanda.

Anonymous said...

Joining two pasts? Wth does that mean? Why would their pasts be joined? Weird. More expected might be - joining two families - or joining two futures - or IDK, anything else.

I guess KMs past is as dark as DBs and they intend to take their "dark past$" show on the road.

#dollarsfordarkpasts

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the shotgun wedding does have something to do with the trial. Maybe a jury would find the victim's husband living with Megs (who followed him to Indianapolis and is obviously besotted by him) suspicious. It's better to be married to someone he didn't meet until after the murder?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone Larry Taylor's email address? I finished the dossier and am going to send it to him. Also, does anyone know who the lead prosecutor is? is it Curry? He's getting the dossier also.

Anonymous said...

Correction for my post at 10:27 PM. Does anyone know Larry Taylor's attorney's email address?

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