Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
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DW here. Yes, there is a journalist in Indy that has been corresponding. There is also a TV show that did a piece on the case and believed the info on DB deserved further investigation, but they are waiting for more information (JW testimony, 911 call, etc) before they air it. I will keep everyone informed.
As for KM and DB meeting, I also don't think that it went down like DB said. He made a point to say that Kristi has some skeletons (can't remember his exact words) so it appears that he is preempting any information found about her past.
I do know "Jay Broski" went to the LA Fitness in Carmel, IN on September 9, 2015 and in May 2015, posted "I hate having to drive to Carmel". Jay Broski advertised himself as a fitness trainer so he was obviously training someone in Carmel. More work is needed to see who he was training and if he knew KM before the murder. We know KM conveniently told Davey her stepdad has worked in inner-city ministry where the thugs hung out so she is also preempting in case somebody discovers that her stepdad knew the thugs before the murder.
"What you don’t see in this picture is her starting down the isle with her step dad, then Phil then Davey’s dad finishing the walk. Davey didn’t tell her this was going to happen. It was very emotional. 3 spiritual fathers giving her to be married. AMAZING!!"
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10214567868892205?comment_id=10214568400105485&reply_comment_id=10214569208365691&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
NICE ambush.
Davey didn't tell Kristi that she was going to be waylaid on her wedding day by the unexpected appearance of three fathers to walk her down the aisle ?
What a glimpse into the future for her that was, I bet. Davey is already controlling what HE wants to have happen - oh the sweet poignant moment of three fathers walking his bride down aisle - whether she wanted that or not !
I'm surprised he didn't have Weston holding her hand as she walked down the aisle, too - that would've made an even better - (blurry, matching-outfitted - credit to Bingo) photo op.
And he is already writing on social media (even before the wedding) things like "Kristi wouldn't like this, but. . ." and then he writes or does it anyway. No respect. No consideration.
Nice start, dude.
Three spiritual fathers (in addition to GOD) giving her to be married, when she has already been married and has a child.
To quote Miranda Hobbes, "The jig is up."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_RzgG9l_tQ
Still not going the way you want it to, so you “investigators” are creating your own stories.
I guess whatever occupies your ample free time.
How long has KMB known AB's dad? So much so that she would want him to partially walk her down the aisle as a spiritual father? What about her step dad's feelings? If he agreed to this, it's just because he felt like he had to, I'm sure. KMB must have had a very, very dark past to need to have "3 Spiritual Fathers" partially walk her down the aisle. WTH? This is by far the oddest thing I have ever heard of, next to supposedly only having a month to plan a wedding (which I don't buy either).
All a PUBLICITY stunt. All for a show. AB's Dad walking KMB down the aisle to show some kind of a front that AB's family is in full support of DB. We all know why they were there, Weston. I wouldn't be surprised if AB's Dad is one of the fellow bloggers on here who posts against beloved DB. Everything is a SHOW with DB. What is this, the ghosts of Scrooge, to come visit KMB to walk her down the aisle? That is so disrespectful to her own family. Who wants someone else's father to walk her down the aisle? I wonder who worked KMB down the aisle at wedding number one. She'll be lucky to have a wedding number three.
Lovely photographs. I thought the three fathers walking Kristi down the aisle was a well-intentioned gesture, which possibly she found affirming, as it must be very difficult all round - I hope they all keep walking that closely with her and that they triple check that there are good auto locks on all the house doors so that they can't be left unlocked, and that she has a decent life jacket, and maybe also a bodyguard for the duration of the honeymoon - if they are having one, so close in Christmas.
I wish I didn't think like that, but it's difficult to see Davey aside from his idling on the drive for an hour as Amanda lay dying, his claim to have had no idea anyone had been in his house, mistaking gunshot wounds for a miscarriage, and only calling 911 as soon as he could. I don't understand how so many people see a quite different Davey to the one he has told them, and us, about so many times.
Well, here's hoping they really are in love, or at least are compatible and will be happy. Probably the in-laws and parents are all so grateful and relieved that Weston has a mother again. I hope little Natalia hasn't drawn the short straw and that Davey has got over his concerns about little girls being all drama- he might not like to be upstaged on that by a five year old.
On his Instagram, where he said he was going to be in the doghouse for posting the bridal shop photo of Kristi, he said 'It's ok. I'm in love.' Still didn't say with whom though - it would be better if he had said anywhere that he loves Kristi. She was still 'this girl' three days before the wedding. Maybe he said he loves her when he proposed, or during the wedding - I'm so curious to know if he has continued to avoid saying it, and to only seem to say it - there's sure to be a sermon and a four thousand word blog post later.
I think it very strange he enters into a new marriage with the intention of keeping Amanda's murder alive as the selling point of his ministry - quite different from creating a positive memorial such as the Byars are working towards, with their playpark project in memory of Amanda.
One reason it is not even a good story upon which to build his ministry is because he didn't act like a man before, during, or after it.
Were Perry, Ashley, Derek and Megs bridesmaids? Didn't see them...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5196073/Indiana-pastor-remarries-wife-murdered.html#comments
'It's impossible to communicate all the emotions my heart has been forced to process. My wife was such a beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God.
'I have not only lost my ministry partner and support but also my very best friend. My wife was such a beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God.
'I have not only lost my ministry partner and support but also my very best friend. There is no way to prepare yourself for circumstances like these.
'As deeply as I am hurting I am hopeful and confident that good things will come of this. I rest in the truth of Romans 8:28 that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and who are called according to His purpose.
'Thank you for understanding my desire to take these next few days to continue to grieve for Amanda Grace.
'My focus right now is to let The Lord minister to my heart as I continue to shepherd little Weston's. I'll be taking this time to focus on being a great follower of Jesus, dad, family member, and pastor to our growing church.
'Amanda made it her life's calling to love and serve everyone she knew. Even more, she has made it her life's mission to see as many people as possible come to know Jesus as their personal Savior.
'I know that in her death and legacy even more people will come to a saving faith in Christ. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt her desire for me would be to continue what we've started here in Indy.
'I hold firm to the belief that God is still good, that He takes our tragedy and turns it into triumph, and that the best truly is yet to come.'
Does he have a relative in the US House of Reps? Was the office of IN Gov involved in the investigation?
^ Took that from the Daily Mail article. What struck me most, two years on, was that there was no appeal for the murderer/s to be caught or justice served - it wasn't any type of priority:
'Thank you for understanding my desire to take these next few days to continue to grieve for Amanda Grace.
'My focus right now is to let The Lord minister to my heart as I continue to shepherd little Weston's. I'll be taking this time to focus on being a great follower of Jesus, dad, family member, and pastor to our growing church."
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I think he really thought people would find it appropriate that he grieve for a few days as he only desired to take a few days to 'grieve for Amanda'. And what even is that? - 'thank you for understanding my desire' - as if to suggest it needed explaining to some less understanding types that he desired to take these next few days to 'continue' to grieve for Amanda. Why does 'desire' come into it, rather than that Amanda has died, and he is taking leave until further notice. He has a 'desire' to take these next few days to continue to grieve for Amanda. I think that's to state an intention, not necessarily to fulfill it. Not convinced by 'continue' either - I think it's a need to explain something so obvious that it shouldn't need explaining.
Besides letting God minister to his heart as he continues to minister to little Weston's (what? - it bugs me that Weston is not also afforded the word 'heart'), his focus is on being variously great. He says he is taking a few days off but will also be taking that time to focus on being a great 'pastor to our growing church' - which is to not really intend to take time off, and to plug 'our church' as growing:
"I'll be taking this time to focus on being a great follower of Jesus, dad, family member, and pastor to our growing church."
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It's nauseating. It's all about him and none about what happened to Amanda.
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Is there ANY possibility Davey is like he is through trauma, disassociation, relief due to long standing animosity towards Amanda, narcicissm, and obsession about growing his church? I don't think so because he seemed very prepared for Amanda's murder - he said there was no way to prepare for 'circumstances like these', yet also that God had prepared them, didn't he? That book on the train, the unlikely romantic getaway, Worship,as a Weapon, the unlocked front door and out of the way home invaders - the alibi phone call and tweet. Calling 911 as soon as he could but apparently not reporting a crime scene. Media interviews arranged and broadcast from Newspring, Perry preaching the live-streamed funeral - come and bring your friends for a great night out, wear jeans, buy a t-shirt. God spoke to him in the shower. If Amanda knew she would be murdered would she have still said 'yes'?
He just popped the question and she - this girl, aka Kristi - also said 'yes'.
Her heart is set on eternity.
Was it on her previous instagram - is it maybe her motto/mantra/hashtag?
"Were Perry, Ashley, Derek and Megs bridesmaids?"
Not bridesmaids but Megs posted on IG that she was there and Amber had pics of Ashley with her new baby and Derek playing guitar.
So funny.
You “investigators” continue to assign your own interpretations....even though they have no factual basis. Whatever it takes to reinforce your outlandish theories.
You know KM has 2 instagram accounts, right?
Megs was maybe in the kitchens pursuing surrender, or making bunny stew. I looked at Amber's photos - didn't recognise Ashley the first time round - she looks radiant, like a different person - so happy and healthy - motherhood suits her. Why isn't Megs, as Davey's PA, personal friend, sometime housemate and babysitter, in any of the photographs? She must and should be, surely, and they just didn't share those so far. I think I'm a bit offended on Megs' behalf - she did follow Davey from Newspring and set up camp on his sofa with Weston and the dog, and in the spare room, after all - and she made him a green room and kept posting his hashtags. She even kept her Etsy sale afloat most valiantly through all the trauma - death announcement, sale.!!!! Get your graffiti driftwood here. #nothingiswasted One photograph, surely? Maybe girls have to weigh less than 120lbs to be in the photos. Weighing scale in the lobby, you're either photogenic enough or you're not. Sorry Megs. I just want to see the photos. :-/. They are nice enough for OK! magazine, for sure. Everyone loves a nice wedding.
I found Megs old blog again - Pursuing Surrender
https://megs71385.wordpress.com
Yes, I will stop it - go and do some Christmas shopping.
We know everything, Anon.
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^^ Not really, not really, honest.
....'circumstances like these' - is that passive? Minimising of Amanda's murder, for sure. Murder as a 'circumstance' - or 'circumstances' rather than say, 'such a devastating crime' - or 'our terrible loss', or 'this overwhelming tragedy' if he was not able to cope with or address the grim reality that Amanda was murdered.
HJ
"I think I'm a bit offended on Megs' behalf - she did follow Davey from Newspring and set up camp on his sofa with Weston and the dog, and in the spare room, after all - and she made him a green room and kept posting his hashtags."
Maybe someday she'll share all she knows with the FBI, a la David Kaczynski, for her friend Amanda, who deserved better. And Kristi/Weston/Natalia, who deserve to be safe. She'll be forgiven for her tree-decorating, won't she?
"you're either photogenic enough or you're not."
If Amanda had only submitted, kept her teeth, her ability to walk, and miraculously repelled bullets, she could still be in photos too.
Christian Post is NOT buying what Davey's trying to sell, and they are putting it out there for all to see.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/indiana-pastor-davey-blackburn-remarries-in-worshipful-ceremony-2-years-after-murder-of-pregnant-wife-210823/
What is it wth Megs - is she still 'pursuing surrender'?
'to find or employ measures to obtain or accomplish yielding to the power, control, or possession of another'
That is such a strange thing for a young girl to have aspired to - ten years since she started that blog. I wonder why she abandoned it. How does one pursue surrender, Megs? - seems something of an oxymoron, to me. Unless you were considering the religious life, as within a monastic community. How can one 'pursue' surrender - when surrender is the denial of one's own will rather than the fulfilment of it - pursuit of surrender is actually the determination to obtain one's own will to be under the power, control or possession of another ? So what, or who is, or was 'surrender' - and what type of another - God is not merely 'another'.
Wow the Christian Post article that Bobcat posted.....wow! I feel like Christmas came early after reading that one. FINALLY even the Christian community is seeing for DB for his true colors.
Maybe Megs 'surrender' talk was from her 50 Shades of Davey days. Maybe they persist still.
Inside Edition is going to be taking about Scott Peterson tonight. Watching it now.
How manipulative and controlling do you need to be to ambush (tm flightful) to ambush your bride's walk down the aisle with her father, and actually replace him (the man she chose) with your murdered wifes father, and then your own father, without her knowledge or permission?What a horrible surprise for Kristi, on her big day.
That is disgraceful. Who is Davey's father to be giving Kristi away to crazy Davey, ffs, instead of her own step father? If my walk down the aisle was interrupted in such a way, I would burst into tears. Shocking.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5196073/Indiana-pastor-remarries-wife-murdered.html#reader-comments
Has everyone read the new Daily Mail article and comments? There are more than 900 comments. The overwhelming majority find Davey Blackburn suspicious, to say the least.
The Christian Post has been skeptical of Davey in its reporting since about day one - there's no 'finally' about it.
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Kristi may not have considered it an 'ambush' - how do you know she hadn't already expressed a wish to Davey that all three fathers could walk her down the aisle, and that he had arranged it as a surprise of the type he knew she would like? 'He didn't tell her' doesn't mean that she didn't or wouldn't want or welcome that. It's likely Kristi might have taken some persuading and had doubts that she was really welcome in the family, especially so soon, and as a divorcee with a child. There could not be a more public statement that she is family than that both her new fathers accompany her down the aisle. It was thoughtful they were called 'spiritual fathers', as technically she is not a daughter in law to Phil and Robin. None was really giving her away, in the traditional sense of the word, as Kristi would already have been 'given away' in her first marriage,so even if 'giving away' was part of the ceremony it would not have held the same significance as for her first marriage. i think it was a well-intentioned gesture, and the intention was to demonstrate that she is considered a new daughter and member of the family by all the family. Hopefully she liked and maybe even had expressed a wish and anticipated that might happen.
I don't know, I just believe it would be difficult, and quite brave, for anyone to step into Amanda's shoes, and such a public demonstration of welcome and acceptance by the family would put a lid on potential gossip of the type that it was too soon, she was not worthy due to being a divorcee, or that the family did not approve, etc.
Ironic, if so, as Davey is the one whose motives should be under scrutiny and whose worthiness of Kristi will remain questionable.
I don't see the need to cast every action involving Davey in a negative way- no-one is all good or all bad - it becomes caricature. The idea may originally have come from Kristi, or another family member - even if it was from Davey, I don’t see why it would have to be a negative for him to want Kristi to feel welcomed and affirmed by her new family, and for everyone with an interest in them to know that. Even if it was misjudged - well, ‘Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus’ - it would not have to mean the intention was to exert control over her rather than to demonstrate that Kristi is family. What’s not to like about your new family showing their love and acceptance in such a determined way? Like, if she was insecure, and had doubts they really wanted her, that would be so sweet and touching a gesture - well, I would think so, if I was Kristi.
Well, I hope Davey loves, or really believes he loves Kristi, and that their marriage is a happy one, for all their sakes.
Anon - I think Megs' blog predates Davey - I might be wrong, not sure when they met - it predates 'Fifty Shades' of anything,
Who saw the Inside Edition report on Scott Peterson tonight? They asked the woman he was having an affair with if she thought she would have been his next victim.
Who saw the Scott Peterson story in Inside Edition tonight? They asked his mistress if she thought she would have been his next victim. So many parallels to this story and the timing of it is very interesting.
"What’s not to like about your new family showing their love and acceptance in such a determined way?"
The "surprise" foisted upon a bride on her wedding day, and the controlling nature of not asking her opinion beforehand.
It's all about control with those patriarchal creeps.
I think you respond from emotion and too much assumption -you don't know that Kristi hadn't already indicated that she would like that, and that it maybe was an idea she herself planted. I don't know either, which is why I don't dismiss that as a possibility. 'Control' is your interpretation - it was Davey's wedding day, too, it is a tad unlikely that he would have wittingly done something to upset, rather than please, his new bride. Even if it was unexpected, you don't know it was unwelcome to Kristi. Why assume that for her? Fathers giving support to daughters and daughter in laws, is patriarchal creepiness? That's an opinion to foist. :) In church families it is important to have the approval of the parents - Kristi may have felt honoured by the gesture.
First ‘Nothing is Wasted’ Podcast - guest, Phil Byars
Preamble: Emily, who co-hosts with Davey the first ‘Nothing is Wasted’ podcast, and her husband, Ken, were living with Davey at the time of the podcast, June 2017. Emily is the Director of Sunday Operations for Resonate church - i.e. hospitality, Next Steps facilities, and events. Emily used to be the Director for Springhill Camps for the Indianapolis area, which is when she began attending Resonate, and how Davey and Amanda met her and Ken. They attended Resonate whilst studying at Anderson University, from 2013, making a forty five minute drive each Sunday to attend. They were engaged and married during that time - Davey and Amanda were part of that, and Emily and Ken were close to Amanda.
Davey says he wants to provide the listener who may not know anything about their story with a little bit of context.
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Davey: And so, uh, just so the listener knows, eighteen months ago I lost my wife. Uh, she was murdered in a home invasion and for the past eighteen months we have, as a family, as a church family, been walking this long road of healing - um, of trying to find hope in this situation - and Romans 8:28 is - is the verse that we have uh, we have laid claim to - that, that God works all things together for the good of those who love him and who’re called according to his purpose - and um, and eh that’s difficult t-to believe when you can't see it and and yet in the midst of all this we’ve seen so many amazing things happen, so many people come to know Jesus, um - our church has grown, people have grown in their walks with Christ - um, everybody seems to be in a lot of ways, um, rallying around - this this cause, this idea of nothing is wasted, and so it’s just cool to see that, and um, and so, you know for the listener so that you know what we’re trying to do - we wanna help you in the midst of your pain - we wanna help you in the midst of your trial- and uh, there’s gonna be, you know, the-th- I say this a lot, but the - the common denominator from life is pain - everybody deals with it - everybody has it, um - if you’ve never walked through any trial, never walked through any pain, you haven’t been alive for very long. And so, we wanna help, we wanna help you live , learn and lead - cuz everybody’s in a different situation with that, and so I wanted my friend Emily to help me co-host this podcast because she was with Amanda a lot before alll of this happened - and she’s walked through this with me, along with the rest of our staff and the rest of our leadership, and some of our volunteers and our church- and she's had to help guide and navigate not only her own emotions but also other people's emotions. I,mean, you were leading the volunteer vision meeting the Sunday after Amanda passed - we had that church service and um, that’s a difficult thing to navigate, and so I know, as we started talking about this Nothing is Wasted podcast you were really excited about that -tell me why, what was so exciting about that?
Emily: Yes, I think one thing that I’m most excited about um, is something that you say a lot, Davey, is that every person has a story - um, and for this podcast to be a platform where we can hear people’s stories
D: Right
Emily: Um, we can take a moment to listen to it, ah, learn from it, ahm, apply it to our own lives but also um learn how to help other people, and whatever pain that they’re experiencing, ah, not so that we can understand what people are going through but so that we can ah relate, and be there
D: Right
Emily: Um, and see that somebody else has walked through that and provide some type of um, help to them through that
D: Right
Emily: So I’m excited because for me, as a listener, I’ll be able to gain some things from this, but also just for everyone out there who is listening to this as well um, that they can apply this to their own life
D: Right. exactly, and the cool thing is, is during the past eighteen months we’ve been able to be recipients of lots of different voices of wisdom and perspective - and so that’s what we want to provide with the listener right now - we wanna provide the listener with - with all these different voices - people who have walked through trial, who have walked through pain, who’ve walked through loss, who’ve walked through grief, and hardship and difficulty of s number of different varieties, and and just ask them questions - how do you do this? You know, because oftentimes, you know, what it talks about in Psalm 23, is that we fear no evil when we go through the valley of the shadow of death because God is with us, and sometimes God shows up in the midst of - you know - um reading your bible, and just a sense from the Holy Spirit that just this touch, kind of a hug from God we call like - hey, I’m with you, I’m here, I’m not gonna leave you, I’m not gonna abandon you, but oftentimes he shows up through other people - and they step into your life - and they do something, and say something, and be there in a season that - man - it’s just this providential thing, and somwe wanna bring some of those voices on to this podcast for the listener - because maybe you’re listening to this podcast, you’re in your car, you’re going “Is there hope?” - and this podcast is hope, coming through your iPod, or hope coming through your iPhone, or whatever it is - and that’s what our hope in the process of this, this podcast, and so I’m, I’m excited to - to get this thing kicked off, and um, Emily, what is - what” what’s, what’s one person if there is anybody that you could hear from -I know I’m throwing you under the [?] just totally at it, but if there’s one person you could hear from on this podcast -maybe there’s listeners out there - you can be like hey we’d love to hear from this person - we’ll reach out to him - who’ll be one person you can think of you’d love to hear from?
Emily: I would really love to hear from Levi Lusko. Um, I know for you that was like a pivotal book, ah in healing, and right after Amanda passed - um, that you sat den and read that and recommended that to our staff, and so I read the book, I listened to it on audiobook - did Levi Lusko really like talk to me, right - um, but I think his story is, um, a hard one, obviously, but he just has a lot of wisdom and knowledge to share, and um, has walked through this, so - um, grace fully - and um, like open-handed, um, that - that, yeah, I’d love to hear from him.
Davey: Yeah , and Levi’s become kind of a big brother to me and has helped me walk through this in a lot of ways - and um, so yeah, we’re definitely going to try to get him on the podcast - that’s be fantastic - we’d love to do that, and a myriad other people, and so. I decided that, son, the first people I wanted everyone to hear from is Amanda’s family. Because they’ve been very much a part of this story - we had them for a Q & A at church, and so many people - so many thousands of people watched that Q & A um - you can go to resonate Indy dot com and um, search through all of our archives and find that, um, those couple of messages where they did Q & A, but why don’t we do this? Let’s just listen in the first guest we have is her dad, Phil Byars - so let’s listen to the interview that I had with Phil Byars,
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8.33 minutes into the podcast, and the interview with Phil is about to be aired. Will do more of it at a later date.
On recommendation of Megs, who has posted a comment on Davey’s engagement blog, in response to someone asking how Amanda’s family was managing the news of his engagement. I haven’t listened further than I transcribed, so I don’t know if it’s a good one to transcribe - just am interested that Meg commented on it.
Typos -
s number = a number
somwe wanna bring = so we wanna bring
den=down
son=so
that's be fantastic = that'd be fantastic
grace fully = gracefully
If by "Christian" one means, in context, the majority of Protestants who hold to the Sacred Scriptures...
I don't know anyone who thinks DB is anything but a charlatan with sexual issues and possible criminal connection.
I don't agree that "Christians are finally seeing" him for anything but a fraud.
He has a small group of followers. That is all. If he is not connected to Amanda's murder, and only profiteered, people will not know his name in 20 years.
That DB calls himself a "pastor" is an embarrassment to Christians. Even investigators say they cannot bear watching more than 3-4 minutes of his video.
Peter
Hey Peter! Good to see you are still at this case, thank you! Youtube took my videos down, but I launched a new channel and put them back up, working on the third as we speak. Something that has intrigued me, perhaps you may have some insight on it? Why won't anyone reign Davey in? He's not quite as graphic as he used to be, but he is still pretty out there. That's just something that constantly stays in the back of my head. It's like everyone surrounding him is an enabler.
I do have to politely disagree with you. People will remember Davey's name for a long time because he will strike again, (in my opinion). One sermon I listened to, he referred to William Wallace - who was a man who had his wife killed. I found that very interesting, he says it very quickly and most people probably didn't pick it up, but he's a more critical thinker than I gave him credit for. He's not done yet, he has only been fueled by the illusion he is in the clear. His long lie about how he met his new bride sounds like one of the biggest tales he has told to date. In one sermon, he keeps telling the congregation their Pastor is a "CHICK, A CHICK MAN, BUT NAW THAT'S GREAT" and people just smile and listen...... He's running on adrenaline now, I give it a few years before he cracks again. The guy is too insane not to.
Hi Peter, so glad you are still on this. No one believes he wasn't involved, except those closest to him. I don't understand why he continues to be so Davey, but the enablers around him are my best guess. My videos on youtube were taken down, but I've got them back up with my new channel and am working on the third video as we speak. I've included a segment where Davey speaks on William Wallace, a man who had his wife killed but they could never prove it, I found that interesting, especially since it had zero to do with the subject he was speaking on. I don't know where it all went wrong, why le didn't even investigate his phone history or his computer history, but that will eventually fall on them.
I do have to respectfully disagree with you about people not knowing his name in 20 years, I think this insane man will strike again and he will definitely go down in history, he is that crazy, in my opinion. A couple years into the marriage he will have very similar problems that he had with Amanda... there is no escaping it. Time will tell. I'll drop a link when I have the video launched. Thank you for all you do and for keeping this case in the public eye.
Kate, can you post links to your youtube videos?
TIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWQaNsE-Sog
There is part one and part two, with part three on the way.
I was the one who posted that I was glad that the Christian community is "finally" catching on to DB. I used to go to his church, so from my perspective, I see it that way. He had Dave Ramsey endorse him and acts like he's chummy with Levi Lusko, so I got the impression that the Christian community was in his favor. I am glad to hear that it is not.
I take from the first eight minutes of the podcast that the reason Emily is the co-host is because she will say that she would like to hear Levi Lusko, Davey's idol, interviewed in a future podcast - in his first podcast, Davey attempts to manipulate and to appeal to Lev Lusko to be a guest - he's 'kind of a big brother' to him, and has helped him 'walk through this in lots of ways' - he aligns himself with Levi Lusko, who may or may not regard Davey as kind of a brother, or believe in Davey's story - he may have helped him ‘walk through this in lots of ways’ but as that is so vague, he also, really, may not have helped him ‘walk through this in lots of ways’.
He claims Emily and Ken were 'close' to Amanda, yet routine meetings run by staff at Resonate continued as normal during the week of Amanda's murder, of which Emily led one - the murder of Amanda did not put their business on hold (as with Megs' and her business as usual Etsy sale).
God 'shows up' - his choice of words is irreverent - 'shows up' is nearly always to suggest that the one 'showing up' is either reluctant to do so, late, unwelcome, or unexpected.
Amanda’s murder is merely ‘this story’ - and her parents have been - past tense - ‘very much a part of this story’. Is the story somehow over, to Davey’s mind? Why is Amanda’s brutal murder sanitised into ‘this story’, of which her parents have been ‘very much a part’? (Why doesn’t Phil ever thump him?)
The first people he wants to interview is the Byars family - because their earlier Q & A had brought in thousands of viewers on-line via the Resonate website. His motive is numbers, viewers, listeners
Amanda is 'this story' - the story is Davey walking into his house and finding Amanda face down in a pool of blood. That is dropped in the podcast, in favour of ‘she was murdered in a home invasion’.
‘And so, uh, just so the listener knows, eighteen months ago I lost my wife. Uh, she was murdered in a home invasion and for the past eighteen months we have, as a family, as a church family, been walking this long road of healing - um, of trying to find hope in this situation - ‘
‘Just so the listener knows’ - not because it matters terribly?
‘I lost my wife’ - Davey first
‘She was murdered in a home invasion’ - passive - he does not actually say that anyone invaded his home, or who he believes is responsible for the murder of Amanda. Also, he does not say her name here - he did say it a couple of times in the preamble - even so, 'my wife, Amanda' is missing there.
‘As a family, as a church family’ - hiding in a crowd?
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The next chapter of the story, world revival, does not appear to be panning out either.
'A little bit of context'. - Amanda's murder serves as 'a little bit of context.' for his 'Nothing is Wasted' - Levi Lusko is my brother, kind of - podcast/life - 'ministry'.
I think this is so much of why so many people can't bear watching or listening to Davey,
Kate said...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWQaNsE-Sog
There is part one and part two, with part three on the way.
BRING IT Kate ! - thank you so much for making these videos, I cannot wait to see part three ! Link will be posted here when it's up, yes?
Hi Flightfulbird, good to see you, yes I'll drop the link here.
The video compilation does a good job in showing how 'off' Davey is, and how difficult it must have been for Amanda to endure him. She looks very unhappy in the train station videos, just a week or two before she was murdered.
After the video making, she was made to read Levi Lusko's book about the death of his little girl, while they were on the train - and Davey had the gall to describe that as a 'romantic getaway'. Only Davey. knows what the rest of the weekend was like, and why really he took Amanda away for that time. The 'romantic getaway' doesn't feature as a precious and happy memory of which he speaks - one might expect it would, if it had been a happy time for Amanda, as it was their last time away together without Weston, and he has claimed they were on good terms before Amanda died.
I hope Kristi has seen the videos - it's incomprehensible to me how she would marry him if she has seen him give his messages, unless she has very low self-esteem and does not consider that she, and her daughter, deserve better. Financially, she will carry him, as he's unlikely to get a real job ever, plus he will expect her to submit to him, whatever that encompasses in the strange world of Davey. I don't get it, she is a professional, young, very attractive, and must have the confidence and self-assurance necessary to have advanced in her career - so why Davey? They say love is blind - but surely, she must have read and seen many concerns expressed about Davey and she must have an inkling that marrying Davey might pose a risk to her daughter as well as to herself. Well, no-one has been convicted of Amanda's murder yet, and there remain a lot of questions round Davey's actions before, during and after the murder of Amanda. I can understand the respective parents welcoming Kristi, with Weston as their main concern - but if any of them really suspect Davey, then I don't understand it, and I think, surely, they all must suspect Davey - of being an unfit husband, at the very least. :-/
Opining again, but it's difficult to resist.
I love that Amanda would have won a hand to hand fight with Davey. He was so afraid of getting a boo boo scratch on his precious canvas that he had to use a gun to beat a chick.
I am also baffled to why such a seemingly lovely girl like Kristi would marry Davey. It alerts me that maybe they knew each other before Amanda died. I don't believe that long, boring blog Davey wrote about how they met for a moment. He seems to be trying too hard to convince everyone. On the other hand, if they hadn't met yet, maybe she was just so broken from getting pregnant, marrying so quickly and then just as swiftly divorcing. She is also still in school so she is most likely financially strapped although she will make good money one day and will have to support Davey. How long can the donation money last?
I was glad to see the comments on Daily Mail as well as the not so rosy write-up on the Christian Post. It has been concerning to me that so many people have been fooled by Davey. The year Amanda died he was insane. He basically flaunted her death and in my opinion, confessed in different statements. He said he presented her to Jesus, he placed himself on the balcony where Jesus watched Amanda get murdered. His Blood sermons where one was titled, "It was a Set-up". He got up at his FNL church and told the congregation that his bride had to die to revive dead bone churches like Elkhart. He didn't even care about leaving the door open and flippantly said when asked by his uncle that "Amanda was about to get up anyway". He spent the week she was murdered, smiling and doing interviews and promoting his toxic church. He is so crazy and people were just complimenting and telling him how great he was on his social media pages. (I am sure there were plenty of negative comments that were removed) However, this swift marriage and the slap in the face to Amanda) proposal on the 2 year anniversary of her death while sister sat at the graveside is not sitting well with the masses. Davey still thinks he is going to be huge and sell lots of books, become a famous podcaster and maybe still thinks he will grow a big church, but the future may not be so bright for him. I think he is coming off more like a villain to more people than the mach 6, hair of fire, super hero, grieving husband that chose "hope over tragedy" guy he is trying to push in people's faces. The story continues to unfold.
Not sure if the story is unfolding or DB is unraveling. The story and worldwide revival haven't exactly played out as DB as DB "prophesied" they would, as evidenced by his need to engineer and promote himself via podcasts. The networking interview circuit has been worked without the expected results. The book supposedly is contracted but on hold. By the time it's published, it will be old news of little interest to the public (no disrespect to Amanda intended). His marriage may be big news in Indy, but not to the rest of the 49 states or elsewhere and not to the vast majority of people.
This go 'round, it's DB who has to get up a promotional trip to Israel, as his mentor Perry Noble has fallen from the NewSpring heights, losing his NewSpring platform and audience. DB is doing what he does best-studying what's worked for other "successful" more renowned pastors and imitating them, fashioning himself in their image. It's a form of counterfeiting, dealing in fake spiritual currency (numbers and profit). Davey is not and will never be a successful, world-famous mega-Church pastor in his own right. He lacks the spiritual gift, the natural-born empathy , the sincerity, and the talent real pastors embody. It's not something you can learn at Wesleyan (or any other college), read in any "Leadership"-training book or biography, absorb from working with/hanging out with other pastors, or learn from a charlatan charismatic salesman "pastor".
The reality is he's still spinning his wheels, with less than a hundred people, filling only a quarter of the same school auditorium for years now. New wife, new life seems to be his mantra. After all, "a wife can make or break a ministry" per DB's older posts.
Just my opinion, but I think he's going for broke. I think in his mind, Kristi, her story, and their "new" story, is going to breath new life into his Church.
Did Mamaw have a gun that she never used? I wonder if it was used by someone to shoot Amanda.
Davey is like a clanging cymbal - if he doesn't love Kristi all his scheming will have been in vain.
He was so inappropriate and manic in those clips in the videos which Kate Slate made - his desperation for a wide audience has not subsided. I don't know how anyone could continue to believe he was not motivated by desire for the riches of a mega-church ministry after his, 'I'm happy with comfort, and two little kids, and my hundred congregation church' schtick. Paraphrased - it was in the God speaks to Davey in the Shower scene. It's toe-curlingly obvious he didn't care for 'comfort' - Amanda's style of homemaking using refurbished items - he didn't want two little kids - and he was not in the least happy with the size of his congregation - and he said that in Phil's church a few weeks after Amanda was murdered. It was to suggest that while humble Davey was happy with his modest lot, God had greater things in store for him, Urgh. So, I don't get Phil - I want him to thump Davey, I also admire him for not thumping him - but mostly now, I want him to thump him. I don't know if Phil is a saint or a wimp. How well did any of them know Davey before he allowed Amanda to marry him? Not much, probably, as it was a long distance courtship. I don't know how they cope. I suppose Romans 8:28 can serve for a lot of things, just keep believing it's all working together for good, somehow. That takes a lot of faith, if that really is their thinking. Is it, or is it an excuse? I can't imagine the horror for them of living with the knowledge of what was done to Amanda, with thoughts that Davey might be responsible but that he has been cleared, and that he has Weston. My mind would explode. I'd be relieved, selfishly, that he was getting married, out of concern that Weston should have a mother rather than undiluted Davey. I'd pray my suspicions were wrong, and would feel tied by his being cleared. If I had doubts, I would be afraid to voice them to investigators in case it got back to Davey, and he cut off contact with Weston. I probably would rely on Romans 8:28 and try to convince myself that Davey was acting like he does due to trauma and because he is a bit more crazy than I had realised, and that it wasn't just a joke from Newspring.
Also though, I'd be increasingly angry the more time I took to look into Davey's video archive, which I would, and as I realised what type of pastor he was, the way he behaved, and how he was in the weeks and months before Amanda was murdered. Mostly, I'd be outraged at Davey's lack of outrage at what had happened to Amanda. I don't know how he can share a space with him, let alone engage in civil conversation, podcasts, even holidays. They speak so much, yet without seeming to scratch beneath the surface.
I know that if I accepted Bobcat's analyses and theories I'd have quite a few answers but I'd have to be able to arrive there through my own understanding, which I have not - plus my bias towards the Byars prevents me from much consideration of a cover-up.
Sorry for the ramble.
Did Mawmaw cook the family dinner - did Amanda partake of a family dinner, or did she eat one of her small healthy meals, like she always does, when she is pregnant? That dinner might have cooked and eaten itself. Not to say Mawmaw was not at home, but Amber didn't say that she was at home, or recall Mawmaw saying goodbye to Amanda when it was time for her to go home. Mawmaw features in other accounts of Amber, where she is present, but she does not feature in that one. Mawmaw and Amber shared breakfast the day Weston was born, Mawmaw was there when Amanda did a pregnancy test. Mawmaw doesn't get a mention when they all went to her house for dinner on the last day of Amanda's life.
'Deserve'? I don't understand.
I do not understand what you mean by ‘deserve’ - my bias is not moral, based on merit or worth, but on the fact - neutral - that the Byars are parents and siblings of a murder victim. I believe they also are victims of Amanda’s murder and that they are innocent of involvement. That is my bias.
I am viewing them in what I understand to be their own context, which is as Bible believing Christians within the Baptist tradition, a pastor and family who strive to live according to their faith.
I believe Amber is withholding information, and that the parents feel badly that they did not return quite immediately from their holiday, due to Davey giving misleading information about Amanda’s condition.
I think they are likely all aware that Amanda was in distress over the weekend and on Monday, that they may have not listened, or given poor advice, and that they may have closed ranks round that knowledge.
Do you believe that Amanda went to Trader's Point Park in her distressed condition? Do you think Derek, Ashley, Mamaw, Poppy, Meg, and /or Perry we're also aware of her distressed condition? Do you think if any of them had had the balls to call 911 that Amanda and her baby would be alive today?
Do you believe that Amanda's distressed condition was made worse by Larry Taylor's appearance on Sunnyfield? Do you believe that he was placed there to take the fall for others' acts or omissions surrounding the horrific murder of Amanda? Do you think Meg decorated the tree? Do you think the closing ranks of Amanda's family is protecting a predator who may strike again?
Great posts. Hey Jude, I have been a bit baffled about the Byars. I guess I always go back to Davey's crazy rant at Phil's church about (as stated above) how fine he would have been to stay at 125 members and two kids but God had to kill Amanda because he needed Davey to go bigger. Ok, so I paraphrasing but this is pretty much the gist of what he was saying. He said that Phil's church was dry bones that needed Amanda's death to breath life into and bring revival to the masses. My thought is that Phil should have swiftly removed Davey from the stage and taken him to the nearest psych ward and have him tested. Phil, unlike Davey has a seminary degree and seems to be sound in his knowledge of the bible. INSTEAD, he stood up there and nodded his head in agreement with Davey and even had him come preach to his congregation a few months later. I mean there is trying to stay forgiving and supportive but this blind go-along with whatever Davey says and does is just lunacy to me! Then, Davey goes and gets engaged almost day that Amanda was tortured and executed followed by a swift wedding where Phil walks Davey's new bride down the aisle. This IMO is just insanity. I can see the Byars staying cordial toward Davey in order to keep ties with Weston but that is as far as it needs to go. Davey has completely disposed of, disrespected, degraded and humiliated Amanda's name.
Your confusion about the Byars is because you people here have created a davey that only exists in your minds based upon the fiction writing you have produced for two years. It’s a well known psychological fact that if something is repeated a number of times, it becomes truth in the creator’s mind , as well as in those hearing it.
You people have told yourselves a story....one that requires loose interpretation in order to come to your conclusions. It’s quite telling that those closest to DB do not share your views, yet, you people accept them as established facts now.
Where did Mamaw live? I know Davey stayed with her after Amanda was murdered and was wondering if anyone knew which city she lives in? There was a previous SA poster that saw Davey (and Weston) at a grocery store in Hamilton county on Dec 6, 2015, late in the evening. Kristi filed a notice of intent to move on Dec 1, 2015 (during her divorce proceedings) and Carmel is in Hamilton county. I still don't believe that Davey and Kristi met the way that he blogged about, especially after his need to let us all know that Kristi's dad knows the suspects.
Here's the post from SA:
Oh my gosh, you guys!!! I just saw Davey at the grocery store and about had a heart attack!! I live north of the city, probably 20-30 min from his house, so I have NO idea what he's doing in this area. All I could think was, I CAN'T WAIT TO TELL EVERYONE AT SA!!!!! He did seem fairly loving to his son as he put him in the cart. And his sweaters must be ingrained in my brain b/c I saw that before anything else, which made me do a double take!
December 6, 2015 at 7:58 PM
M said...
Anon on 12/6 at 7:58PM - Hamilton County?
December 7, 2015 at 12:03 PM
Anonymous said...
M, yes.
December 7, 2015 at 12:22 PM
M, Kroger, Westfield
Anonymous said...
Once again, I'm the one that saw him at the store and he got into a white, 4 door car. I don't know the model, but it was a family car
Maw Maw lives in Brownsburg, not Westfield. DB has friends from church in Westfield. I wouldn't be surprised if he frequents different grocery stores to gain "publicity" as he sees it. He doesn't drive a white car, unless that's Kristi's vehicle.
Yes, Bobcat, I believe Amanda went to Traders’ Point playpark, where she further shared with Amber Davey’s response to the pregnancy, and that Amber downplayed whatever Amanda shared with her, choosing instead to turn the conversation to ‘positive’ things, such as baby names and nursery decor.
No, I do not have reason to believe that all the others you named were necessarily aware of Amanda’s distress, or if they were, that they would have believed it due to her life being in danger, or found they should intervene. Demonstrate at which point any of them witnessed a crime in progress of which they would have found it reasonable to call 911 on Davey.
We have not heard from Mawmaw, who may or may not have seen Amanda at her home on Monday evening. I think Davey has not confirmed that he was at Mawmaw’s for a family dinner on Monday evening, or that he collected Amanda from there.
I do not know if Amanda would be alive today if any of them had ‘had the balls’ to call 911, or if any of them would have had reason, or believed they had reason enough, to call 911. It would not be a question of having ‘had the balls’ if none had reason to believe Amanda’s life was in danger, or therefore reason to call 911.
I don’t see the point of ‘if only’ - the fact is that no-one called 911; that is not much relevant - unless you can demonstrate that any of them did seriously believe that Amanda’s life was in danger, that a crime was in progress, or very likely to be committed.
You make them responsible for not anticipating that the most unlikely and incomprehensible thing was going to happen to Amanda. Any or all may have responded inadequately, or with embarrassment, to what they understood to be a domestic situation which Amanda would be expected to deal with, by submitting to Davey. Terrible judgement calls do not have to equate to the cover-up of a murder, or the knowledge that a murder would be committed.
Davey has been cleared. I suppose believing that might help, even if they didn’t quite believe it.
Sometimes people really do not agree with their own stated opinions, no matter that they want to - I sometimes think that is so of the Byars.
Anon @11:07, that post was from Dec 2015. Davey and Amanda were given a white Chevy Cruze shortly before the murder that seemed to vanish for awhile, so maybe that was the car?
Bobcat, I have always suspected that Amanda had passed from her distressed condition into a much worse one by the time Larry Taylor appeared on Sunnyfield.
I don't know if Megs decorated the tree. I think someone did, and it was not Amanda.
I think they have closed ranks because they believe they all failed Amanda, and because they cannot stand it, or admit of it. I think also you conflate guilt with responsibility, while the only person responsible for Amanda's murder is the one who killed her, or, if you believe it was murder for hire, also the instigator. You could go into the wider issues of mindset and culture, as possibly contributing factors, but that would be to move away from the personal responsibility of whoever murdered Amanda, and to judge the family for living according to their faith and beliefs. In a different family, Amanda may well have left Davey, and that quite early on, but Amanda also lived according to her faith and beliefs.
These are early days - Davey so wants Amanda's murder to be just a season, one which is over, and which they have all walked through together - now he claims they're all on the long road of healing. Years pass, loyalties change, people who felt intimidated sometimes overcome their fears and tell more what they they know.
I don't know why you are going for the family, and friends, and at Perry - they did not murder Amanda. I think Resonate was somehow groomed to expect a tragedy, and also to take a negative view of Amanda, as wilful - because she had her own agenda, one which needed praying against. I think they were not as shocked as they would have been, had they not been living in expectation of something which would 'slingshot' Davey's ministry. None appeared to be living in fear following the murder - apart from Amanda's family, which I think is telling. I believe in the very early days that LE reassured the residents that their personal safety was not at risk?
Sunnyfield residents, that is - while Amanda's mother drew reassurance from a police patrol car parked on their street, many miles away, and Amber could not sleep or go downstairs alone, such was her fear.
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Cut to Derek and Ashley, smiling, apparently carefree, during their tv interview, speaking in the past tense of Amanda, while her life support machine had not turn been turned off.
They were not afraid, Megs was not afraid, while Amanda's family were - the heart knows what it knows - the family believed there was reason to feel fear, while the friends were not afraid. I don't think they were involved, but I do think they did not have a fear of random home invaders on the loose.
Bingo - I think Phil wouldn't create a scene in church, and probably he was blind-sided by Davey's performance - sometimes you do just nod agreement to something you don't really agree with, either because you are taken off-guard, or wish to avoid conflict, or - see Peter's recent example of not contradicting someone he was interviewing in order to keep him talking.
It's inconceivable that Phil was not angry at the multiple insults Davey made towards Amanda and to everyone's intelligence - happy with comfort, two kids, and his little church - yeah, right. That was so cringeworthy, even Davey must have know how unconvincing that was.
I listened through the rest of that podcast I began - Davey slipped up, saying it was time for him 'to dream big again'. I felt the discomfort. He knew he had slipped up - more or less admitting he wasn't ever really happy with comfort, two kids, his little congregation... therefore he had been dreaming big before Amanda died - now it was time to dream big - again. And Phil smoothed it over, as often he does - yet Phil is no fool. So, I think Phil is biding his time, putting his faith in God, and the justice system, and I hope that Romans 8:28 might be a belief to invest in, because Phil loves God, and so did Amanda. I think Davey loves the idea that God can make him a rich mega-pastor, rather than that Davey loves God.
I think Weston is a big factor, and maybe they will go along with whatever Davey wants to avoid conflict and to keep contact with Weston.
Plus, they continue to love Davey, which has to be quite an achievement just in itself - and Davey, legally, is innocent. So, they go further than you or I would, or possibly could, and yes, it does at times seem like a betrayal of Amanda, and even many betrayals, when Davey's attitude is given free reign by Phil. I find it very problematic, too.
Well, this is interesting and about time! Crime Watch Daily posted the wedding article to their FB page. Could they be looking more deeply into it?
https://www.facebook.com/crimewatchdaily/
No.
There’s nothing to look into, unless you believe every false (and laughable) theory posted on this blog by four or five people—people who have absolutely no access to LE evidence and crucial information.
Oh well. Who needs that when you live in your own little fantasy world and can satisfy your writing aspirations by the fiction submitted here?
What's the crucial information we are missing, Anon? We haven't yet heard the type of crucial information which would connect the accused to the beating and murder of Amanda - that would be that Amanda's blood was found on the clothing and shoes of the accused, and that their fingerprints and DNA were all about the house. So, there's that to wait upon - and we haven't heard their testimonies yet, either.
There are more than just a few people. Davey getting married has brought back up on social media the doubts that so many have. The news articles on FB along with the DM article that finally stopped taking comments after it reached almost 1000 comments, majority negative. Even the Christian Post ain't buying it. There may be only a few left on here discussing but there are tons discussing on social media. It also sounds from twitter, there is an investigative reporter on this case. I think what Davey needs to do (if he wants his book to sale and his podcast to gain some momentum) is just sit down and answer the hard questions by someone besides an uncle? Like sit down with a real reporter and let himself get grilled. If he passed the smell test, he may move forward with the promoting. It is not going to sell the way things look publicly right now for Davey. The lavish life will not continue if he can't sell this the best it yet to come redemption story.
The Christian post reported from the latest article about Davey's wedding also posted this shortly after the murder. This guy has been on to Davey from the jump:
"The Eerie Message Davey Blackburn Preached 2 Days Before Wife's Murder"
https://www.christianpost.com/news/davey-blackburn-sermon-worship-weapon-wife-amanda-murder-150845/
^reporter
Does LE even know that Davey was a substitute teacher at North Central High School, the school that the Kilt Gang members attended (including Jalen Watson, who would have been there when Davey was there)?
Of course LE doesn’t know that. Only you few commenters in this disgraceful blog know that. It’s so difficult to understand why LE doesn’t take this fiction writing, i.e. statement analysis, seriously. The answers lie right here in this blog.
(Let’s see....what was that Peter said about gov. and censorship? I think I shall read that again.)
Aaah, here we go.
Peter Hyatt December 18, 2017:
”In the US, with "net 'neutrality'" removed (2,000+ regulations) when FB or Google censors opinions they do not agree with, the tyranny is now met with free competition. This has a history of benefiting us. Expect companies to now invest in internet access, specifically in two ways: 1. Wifi outside the home/business setting expansion, and 2. Free data for music streaming. I could add in a 3rd of lowered prices overall, but it will take time. The free speech enemies are not pleased. I do not agree with many opinions, including my own, but still aggressively demand the freedom to express them. If you support new "hate speech" standards, know that eventually, it will be YOUR opinion that will be "unacceptable" some day as the pendulum of history sways. It may be you, or it may be your children, but if you believe politicians should censor our thinking, and you like the current climate, eventually it will turn on you and you'll rue the day you did not fight for the contrary opinion. I don't get my views from the owner of FB.”
Oh really? My posts are routinely deleted, because you don’t like what I say.
Oh my,the LOL LOL Anon is getting touchy. Must be hard seeing more than just the 4 or 5 us on here not buying the ridiculous behavior of the charlatan that is DB. It is all over social media.
I see only four or five.
I also see the hypocrisy, which is what I was pointing out. You only see “touchy.” Too bad you’re so taken in by the hypocrisy of the “expert.”
BTW, I’m quite used to my posts being deleted, so not only does it not bother me, it confirms the disingenuousness that abounds here. I five it quite amusing.
HJ,
I never heard/read that Amber couldn't sleep or go downstairs. I recall Robin saying that, but not Amber. Amber stated that she prayed for grace to get through each day, she never stayed in bed late because of her three children, and that Gavin was surprised at how well she was handling everything.
Amber was also capable of publicly publishing lengthy Facebook blogs at that time, none of which featured an appropriate memorial photo of Amanda.
I've noticed that whenever the connections between Davey and the Kilt gang are mentioned, the Angry/LOL LOL Anon immediately tries to derail the thread by posting that we are fiction writers, hoping someone here takes the bait and begins a back-and-forth with him.
So, Angry/ LOL LOL Anon, why didn't LE (and Davey, for that matter) bother to note publicly that the suspects went to the high school that Davey taught at (which also happens to be on the same property as Davey's church)?
And why didn't LE bother to check Davey's gym associates, since that was his alibi?
This isn't fiction, these are facts. Since you seem to know an awful lot about what evidence LE has, can you answer the above questions?
Amber talked about how scared she was to leave her bed(at night)and was scared initially, not to stay in bed, but how she didn't feel so safe anymore. She spoke on how they used to leave their doors unlocked but now they have an entire security system installed. I really thought Davey would chime in about that and how he felt guilt over leaving his wife, unborn child and Weston like sitting ducks, but he always changes the subject and never dives into his area of guilt or remorse, unless he can circle it back around to him being the victim.
Davey never talks about the "if only's" he never speaks to leaving that front door unlocked, the dog, blabbing on the phone for hours, etc.
"Amber talked about how scared she was to leave her bed(at night)"
Where/when did she talk about that?
How do you know what LE checked? You’re assuming, because you simply have no clue how LE operates.
What have YOU genius investigators checked, and how did you go about that—from posting on a blog?
She talked about it in the two part series she did with Davey, Robin, Phil and James. I think it's on part two, here https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?postID=8066472510268058118&blogID=7164794708270892518&isPopup=false&page=24
If you want to get right to her talk about this, it's around the 44 minute mark.
Amber's Christmas Eve facebook "blog" is as full of red flags as usual.
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/videos/10214616005415588/
It is odd how angry anon comes and whines about "fiction writers" here, yet Amber continually publishes "cherished impressions of the warmth" she felt when with Amanda.
I wonder if she will have any more luck than Davey selling her "true" story to a publisher.
Here it is:
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/9112016-what-happens-when-you-die-week.html
Question: How do you fight against fear in the light of what happened to Amanda?
Amber: "We got a security system, things like that, but, um, I, just remember one night, I went to tuck the kids in and I, I fell asleep, it was like 1:30 and woke up to this, loud noise and I, (laughs) - I pushpin everything up in my house, like all my frames; well, not heavy stuff – but like, little things.
So I think, one of my pictures fell down, but it knocked down like, four or five on the way down, so it was the loudest, like, startling. I just remember, like, it took the breath completely out of me and I didn’t know what to do and I, and Gavin, like, got, jumped up and.
I couldn’t go back to sleep and all I kept thinking about was, like, just the, shock and the, like, just how scared Amanda probably was and I know I shouldn’t, dwell on that but um. I just, in my own life in that moment that’s how I felt and I would just, think about, her walking into a room with, people, and, men she didn’t know and.
So I was, I started to focus on that. I started to, wake up at like 6:20, or 6:30 and it was dark and I was like, ‘Ah. (unintelligible) go to get a drink and think, I am not getting out of bed. Like I don’t, I’m not that thirsty, because. But I would think through all these details and I remember calling you [points to Davey] one time about it and just saying, ‘I cannot believe, that happened to her,’ like ‘How scary,’ and you [Davey] were like, ‘You just can’t. You can’t let your mind go there.’
And so I was doing the same thing. [points to mom Robin] I just would pray. I would say, ‘Lord’, um, ‘Protect my mind’, but the verse that would, always come to mind was the verse that Amanda had written in her house, and it was, you will keep in perfect peace, him who, him whose mind is steadfast because he trusts in you. And so, the peace that would overwhelm me, was, amazing but, um, I would just pray that, over and over and over again, and I have helped, several, girls just kind of get through that fear because, it’s a scary thing. It’s, I, but just to see god, how he has, protected, me, um, and protected my mind, just asking him to has been amazing and I don’t wake up anymore between 6:00 and 7:00, usually. So, I’m thankful for that."
It sounds like she was more disturbed by what fear Amanda must have felt, which was triggered by a noise in the night, than actual fear of criminals on the loose.
Both Robin and Amber didn't pray to God for their personal safety, they prayed for peace of mind.
The impression that Amber and Robin have created is that they were mostly afraid of losing their wits. I don't see fear of criminals on the loose.
I don't think either were worried too much about killers on the loose or anything, the Byars had their local le sitting outside their home, but again, it was more of a personal thing as they had members on the force and Amber's security system, but funny, no mention of anything like this coming from Davey.
Phil Byars was interesting to me on part 2.
Kate, I am very much looking forward to your next video. This is the perfect time to do it as there is a popular interest in this case due to the swift wedding. Davey thinks there is massive interest in him and that he is some sort of celebrity. The only real interest I am seeing is that people suspect he was involved in the slaughter of his beautiful wife and unborn child. I think your videos bring awareness to people of his "off" behavior. Christians should not be listening to him IMO.
I find it interesting that Davey doesn't want people to "go there" Like from above [Davey] were like, ‘You just can’t. You can’t let your mind go there.’ He pushes in people's face that they should declare "nothing is wasted!" Wear jeans to the life celebration. Remember that unread Amanda is super happy in the party portal. "Move on, the best is yet to come." "Capitalize on this." It is unnatural. Amanda's family has "to go there". They have to face it and grieve. Davey wouldn't even allow the one year anniversary of Amanda's death to be anything but a great thing! Let's don't grieve, let's push the album on the anniversary of my wife's beating and execution. The next year he gets engaged and doesn't even acknowledge the anniversary of her death. He is one twisted guy but just because he isn't grieving doesn't mean he should make other people 'not go there". People think he is strong and a man of faith but the simple truth is that he is not grieving. The people who truly loved Amanda should be allowed to be humans.
For the poster asking about the APC for Larry Taylor's other murder charge:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/295145303/Larry-Taylor-Murder-Dec-2015
It says that Hayley Andreasen was Larry Taylor's girlfriend and she was with him when he supposedly confessed to 4 others.
The gang that JW and DG belonged to went by several names but hung out on 71st & Michigan, the same spot that DG and JW bought gas and had their first unsuccessful ATM transaction. Btw, all of these gang members went to North Central High School. ("Court records allege members shot up buildings and sold large quantities of marijuana out of two homes at West 71st Street and North Michigan Road.") The gang members in this arrest were all friends with "Jay Broski", Diano Gordon, Treley Kidd and Alonzo Bull.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2016/04/21/arrests-made-butler-tarkington-gang/83327554/
Thanks Bingo. I'm about 3/4 done but it's a bit of a struggle listening/watching hours of Davey - can drain a soul, lol. I think the video itself will be more interesting to those of you here. And I am starting to think maybe more than one video is necessary, it's getting really long. I'm also hoping Peter will do an update, that would be awesome.
I agree with you, he does not want anyone to go there and he diverts any uncomfortable talk, almost immediately. A lot of the public, especially in Indy, are questioning all of this.... I'm anxious for the trial(s) to begin. Davey says they all agreed that the book release wouldn't take place until after the trial, but he is becoming increasingly impatient as the trial dates are/were delayed. I can't remember if it was you or someone else who said it will be interesting to listen/see the evidence of DNA they have, as well as any other "evidence". I'm hoping to make the trial, I don't live too far from there and I think it will prove to be very interesting, if it takes place.
Kate, I would be willing to help you sort through DB's videos. I've thought about making a compilation myself, but the time spent doing so would be enormous. Lmk if there are any videos you'd like for me to watch to scan for his infamous statements, leaking his guilt.
Hey Anonymous, thank you! I was going to ask if anyone had any particular clip they would want me to include, but I didn't know how it would come across. Davey has been a busy boy, a lot of appearances, podcasts etc. There is a great deal to sort through and compile in a way that the average viewer can grasp the enormity of what he is saying and delivering.
Let me know what you're thinking. I have to set up my channel to accept direct messages and maybe we can work through that?
Kate,
I looked at your You Tube channel and didn't see a link to DM you. I've set up an anon email for all my DB stuff. You can email me at anon33456@gmail.com. If you send me some videos, I'll screen them for you and send you back parts of interest. Thanks!
There is so much craziness in his sermons. He slips up sometimes. One thing that stuck out to me in the one and only podcast I listened to was when he told Samantha Smith (who lost her husband to cancer)that he can't imagine going through something like that?! I was like, WHAT did he just say?? That was very telling to me.
For a clip that demonstrates the complete the complete insanity and depravity of crazy Davey, look no farther than the "dry bones" speech that he had the temerity to make in his FIL's church at Elkhart, and in which he claims that God spoke to him in the shower and told him that Davey's bride (Amanda) had to die, so that gods bride (the church) could "come alive".
The one on one with Davey's uncle had some interesting clips, especially the bit where the uncle asks Davey about the unlocked door and Davey shrugs it off, like its no big deal and says "she was about to get up, anyways".
Don't forget a clip from Red Cedars where he maniacally parades "goodness and mercy" cakes through the shadow of the valley of death.
At Red Cedars he also refers to "popping a cap" in the head of a greeter and throwing the body in a dumpster. (Not the first time he's told that one)
How about a clip of him telling his congregation that Amanda urinated in front of him on their wedding night and that she had "no shame"?
There are plenty of clips from Worship is A Weapon you could use, which include Davey talking about assault, rape, kicking teeth, and, of course, shooting your worries.
He is impossible to stomach for more than a few minutes at a time, so it may take a while to compose the video.
Thanks Anonymous, I will flip through the vids and let you know. My dm box is open now on youtube, but you can also use my email at kateslate11@yahoo.com.
Bingo, I agree, sooo much stuff he says is mind boggling. Like when he references why God is doing this to him he says "we were faithful in dating and we were faithful into the marriage....." he says it swiftly, but almost in a muffled way. Was Davey faithful throughout his marriage? He certainly chose his words carefully, "into the marriage".
Thank you QED, that worship as a weapon series is how the video starts out. Referencing the knocking out teeth of your enemy as well as a few others. Did you see the one (I forget right now what it is titled) where he brings a sword into his sermon? The guy preaches about violence non-stop. He states it was the sword he gave to Amanda when they were engaged and she was away at college. I've thrown in red cedar clips as well and the one with Phil, ugh.
Which one is the one about Amanda urinating? Was that in their series at the church and he embarrasses her by stating she can bring the butter?
Thanks for the helpful tips guys, keep them coming if you think of anymore.
Kate:
Love Song Week 5 - Bringing Sexy Back 10/11/2015
https://vimeo.com/142824629
Time stamp: 14:00, in front of a poster that says "1 man, 1 wife, 4 life", Davey says "Even in my own life, WE go outside of this"
He was cheating a month before she was murdered.
"Way over her head."
46:40
https://resonateindy.com/sermons/love-song/q-a-with-davey-and-amanda
They are still getting ongoing counseling from Uncle Eddy when the video was made.
Yes, to me it sounds like he is saying that he went outside his marriage in front of his congregation. I am beginning to think Davey may have known his new wife before the murder. Why the long trying to convince blog about how she just happened to start coming to his Crossfit and then she randomly started attending his church. I think they were probably together for a long time but had to wait to go public due to public perception and to be able to capitalize and monetize on it all. She seems to be a lovely person but something smells really fishy. Didn't she get divorced about the same time as Amanda was murdered? They have to know that the swift engagement was going to raise eyebrows.
Kate, do you know that Bobcat has many of his sermons transcribed as well as his changing stories of what he walked into that "normal" morning. I am sure you do but sending link just in case.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/
There are plenty of typed clips from his blog, too. There are especially disturbing and memorable snippets from " would she still have said "yes"." Where Davey asserts that his grief counsellor (of all people) asked him if Amanda would have agreed to coming to Indianapolis if she knew she and her unborn baby would be murdered. And Davey says he knows she would have said "yes" for a couple of very disconcerting reasons. In particular, that the morning before her murder she was in a position of "complete surrender" on both knees, bowing, and Amanda said to him " I was praying that Godwould use us in a really big way" .
The "how is Weston doing" blog is also hideous. Davey says that Weston asked for him incessantly (when he pissed off to Jerusalem straight after the murder) but Weston never asked for Amanda.
Davey talking about Amanda urinating in front of him on their wedding night was in one of his video sermons to Resonate. It was commented on in this blog. I'll try to find it. Davey demeans and denigrates Amanda after death, as he did in life. Justice for Amanda.
Some of Davey’s Resonate message - 24th December. This was the second of two Christmas services.
Well, good morning church, how we doing this morning, Merry Christmas - c’mon! Yeah! Good to see everybody here - we got a little bit of snowfall last night, making it a white Christmas, hopefully we get a little bit more today. Man, I’m so excited about Christmas services excited that you decided to come and hang out with us today, um, you could be in a number of different places, you could be uh doing a number of different things, and we’re really grateful that you came and hung out with us - um, I was so excited about hanging out with you guys on - last night's service and this morning’s service that I like cut my honeymoon in half. right? [DB Laughs] I was like, man, we wanna get back we wanna celebrate Christmas with our Resonate family, we wanna celebrate Christmas with our new family, um, man I had the u- unbelievable privilege of marrying this beautiful gal right up here on the front row - Kristi - now Blackburn - hello, she ain't Monroy no more, she is Kristi Blackburn - however, we were on our way to Chicago, we stopped by a mall up in Northern Indiana and the - you know the email thing where you're like doing an exchange at the register, and they're like you know, what’s your name? She said Kristi Monroy - I said, uh, uh, girlfriend - uh, uh, you’re a Blackburn now, you know? And so, ah, we’re just so excited - and I - and I just wanna kind of dive in today, because I don’t know where you’re at, I don't know what background you may be coming here with, maybe your family drug you to church uh - growing up - I had a drug problem - I was drug to church every time the doors were ope - hello - an’ - so I-I just wanted to kind of step out and kind of o-o-open up with this this thought that I was having as I was thinking about - Christmas and especially this transition that my family’s gone through - they’re a lot of like names being established in our family right now - k? So I’ve got a three year old, and I’ve brought the three year old into the marriage, lot of baggage right there - and then, um, Kristi brought a four year old girl, Natalia, lovely lovely cute little girl, into uh um our relationship, and so we have been teaching, especially before the wedding teaching them all about the names of family members so they wouldn’t embarrass us, you know? And we wanted to make sure, Okay, when you see this person, this whom
this is, and Kristi and I were kind of drilling each other to, at one point, we were taking pictures at the wedding, and Kristi’s like who is that strange lady with the iPad taking pictures - I was like, well, that’s my aunt, you know - I was like i’ve got some crazy aunts, and you’ve got crazy aunts, too, and if you don’t have crazy aunts that you’re not looking forward to hanging out with at Christmas - guess what, you’re the crazy aunt! Okay, so. Um, so, we’re talking about names and we’re trying to do this whole thing, and I’ve realised something as I was teaching these kids names. I realised that especially these days grandparents have really odd names - right, how many grandparents do we have in the house? C’mon, you’d be willing to admit that you’ve got grandkids, okay, let’s go - blessings from the Lord, we are so glad that you guys are here - um, I love grandparents, um, because grandparents their job is just to spoil your kids, and completely undermine everything you’re trying to do as parents. right? Isn’t that what the job of grandparents are?
Continued...
So we're teaching them the names of all of these grandparents that we have. Weston and Natalia have a lot of grandparents, they have great-grandparents, and when I was growing up it was easy - cuz it was - it was the Blackburns side and then there was my mom’s side - the [Shigley?] side, and we called the grandparents the same thing - it was grandma and grandpa Blackburn and grandma and grandpa [Shigley?] - very easy, okay. Easy identifier - it was super simple. It’s not so easy anymore - right? Because grandparents are trying to get all creative with their names now - so this is - let me just tell you what Weston and Natalia have - they have - a Mamaw and poppa, they have a nana and papaw, a nana and geepa, and a grammy and poppy - No wonder these kids grow up completely confused, you know? Weston’s always all the time coming to me going like grandma, grandpa, uh, uh. daddy - Daddy, that’s who you are - [laughs]. We’re also trying to like help them understand kind of the change that’s happening, and you know, to each his own, and we’re doing this blended family thing, and I don’t know if there’s really even books out there on how to do a blended family and if you’re part of a blended family, it’s such an incredible thing to join families together - and so we’re learning how to do this and so what we decided is that we were gunna have Weston call Kristi mommy because now we have explained to him you have a mommy in heaven and you have a mommy on earth now and then we decided that Natalia’s gonna call me Daddy - okay. And so, it was interesting because there was, there was this point before we got married that it was a lot of confusion. And so we just kinda called each other like Kristi Mommy and and Davey Daddy. And at one point Weston looks at Natalia early on in our dating relationship and goes, ‘What - why you call - why you call him Davey? And Natalia goes well, because his name’s Davey? Right - She got the little mm - you know what I mean - like the little Beyoncé sass - and - and - Weston goes, his name's not Davey, his name’s Daddy!
Right, I mean - it’s true, it’s true - and even though my name - and Weston was getting a little bit confused because I have a - a name that identifies me with everybody else, just like you do - right, so everybody you come in contact with this is your name, this is how it identifies you, but I also have another identifier that’s a positional name to Weston. You understand that? So I’ve got ‘Daddy’ to Weston, and I’ve got - I’ve got ‘Davey’ to everybody else. And as we were merging things it was to Natalia, it was ‘Davey Daddy’, and trying to get her transitioning t-to Daddy - now it’s adorable - she comes up to me, ‘Daddy, Daddy, Daddy!’ - and I’m like, um, it’s hard to get used to but it’s really, really cool. And then with Weston it was ‘Kristi Mommy’ - so there’s this whole transition thing - and what’s really fascinating to me is, is Natalia has done a really good job of transitioning to ‘Daddy’ - like she transitioned pretty easily and it was like all in one day - like one moment, [clicks fingers] - right? An-and actual transition of her going from ‘Davey’ being my identifier to ‘Daddy’ happened in one day - it happened with a moment - it happened last Sunday in a ceremony. This moment where Kristi and I stood across from each other and said, ‘I do’ - and we made a covenant with each other, where an exchange happened - there was a lot of exchanges - exchanges of rings, exchanges of name, all kinds of exchanges - but ultimately it was exchange of a promise that said hey, we’re gonna be together forever. And that was the moment that I went in Natalia’s ey- from just being Davey, the general identifier to Daddy, a position.
I started thinking about that, I started thinking about how that’s what it’s like when you have a true relationship with Jesus. Because there is one name that is more powerful than any other name in all of history and that’s the name of Jesus. And while we all have all these names that we associate each other with, we associate ourselves with, there’s one name that stands above all names and that’s the name of Jesus, it’s the name above all names, he is the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords, and the question I wanna ask before we step in any holiday experiences, before we all go to the fashion mall or [Castleton?] and try to get in our last minute shopping if you’re crazy enough to wait this late, like I am - before we do any of that, this is the question I wanna ask you, I wanna ask you this - what does the name of Jesus mean to you? What do you do with the name of Jesus? Because whether you like it or not, the name of Jesus, more specifically the person of Jesus, has effected your life and impacted your life more than any other name in all of history. You understand that even the way we tell time - we’re about to step into two thousand eighteen, AD - if you kind of know that that’s the, the tag at the end of two thousand eighteen - AD - that means Anno Domini -‘the year of Our Lord’. before God split time in half by sending his Son Jesus, there was the time BC - before Christ - so even the way we tell time these days, the way that we mark our years, the way that we mark and measure things, was marked by this person, Jesus. Jesus never traveled more than a hundred miles outside of his home town, he never wrote a book, but somebody sarcastic is going to go, ‘Well, actually he did write a book, Davey, it’s called the Bible.’ - but- d-d-he didn’t actually sit down and pen it, he wrote it through inspired word, through, through ordinary men, an-and he never made some kind of film motion picture thing - ‘Well, actually the Passion of the Christ was a real good movie’ - that’s Mel Gibson, that’s not Jesus, okay? He didn’t do any of those things which really prominent influential people do nowadays. If you’re influential and you’re prominent, you write books, you make movies, you do all these things, you travel across the world - you speak, you do these engagements - and Jesus did none of it. Never travelled more than a hundred miles outside of his home town. And yet his face has been on the cover of TIME magazine more than anybody else in all of history.
That is as much as I have done. Davey cuts honeymoon in half - but that's maybe okay, as God cut time in half. Jesus also not well read or well travelled, so.
Maybe he took her here - Davey loves a romantic getaway.
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g37361-d302301-Reviews-Abbey_Inn-Nashville_Indiana.html
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What type of honeymoon is one which is cut in half?
My way of spelling the grandparents names might be wrong - i spelled them as near as they sounded.
Bobcat, I think so too, only I think it was much sooner. Thanks for the links too! Bingo, I didn't know Bobcat had that blogspot but I will check it out, thanks! QED thanks and I will let you know if I find it too.
I'm sure the life insurance policies have been updated for Kristi and Natalia. What a prick to rub in the congregation's face that Kristi is now Weston's Mommy. Why the need to start switching their names up early? Mommy Kristi and Daddy Davey? Really???? Wow.
DB took KB to Chicago for the honeymoon then he plans to take her on a longer one in the Spring. Funny to me that DB went to such an extend to allow Amanda to stay home with Weston, even when finances were tight, he took on coaching baseball instead of Amanda getting a job in the evenings. Now with KB, she's going to have to work.
That is just messed up! I can't imagine how my parents would feel if I were murdered and then my husband proposed almost to the exact day as the anniversary of my death, swiftly married and then had my kids calling his new wife mommy. What the heck? And doesn't the little girl have a dad? This just gets quirkier everyday. Davey wants Amanda erased completely doesn't he? The verse he twisted up to apply to him exclusively about God doing a new thing is what he wants everyone to accept. Davey's new life. Amanda who? Gosh, she could have had a thriving, wonderful life of true purpose and ministry if she hadn't met the sociopath charlatan that is Davey Blackburn. Now Davey just wants her erased from history. Her duty done, now it is just about Davey's new life and story. He makes me sick.
I don't think Davey was cheating on Amanda with Kristi, but with men including Jake Baird - (who planted the seed of how to get away with murdering your wife) when he blew Davey away with his testimony across the, the, uh, table in 2012. Davey had "no idea" that he would lose Amanda three years later.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/9112016-family.html
Davey: "Three years ago, shortly after we moved here, um. I went out to coffee with a guy, a Pastor at a church down the road, itown church, and um, his name’s Jake Baird. Many of you guys remember Jake. He came and spoke in December, and he lost his wife five years ago. Uh, middle of the night, he woke up at midnight, and she was, gone, just, um, died in her sleep, and I remember, going to coffee with him. It was a couple years after it happened, and he was sharing with me, giving testimony to how faithful god has been, and I’m blown away. As I’m sitting here across the, the um, m, you know, table with this guy who – I’m saying how in the world is he speaking with, with such strength after going through something like this. I remember specifically, going home, and telling Amanda about that story and going I don’t know how in the world he’s doing this. Like, there no way I would be able to walk with that much faith and trust and strength if I were in the same situation. I had no idea that three years later I would be in the same situation. No idea."
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Jake's wife's death was determined to be "kinda" inconclusive...
Her heart stopped suddenly "just like that"..."just like that"
I hope crazy Davey's crazy aunt got to hear that sermon or gets to read the transcription. It must be nice to know that the nephew, whose 2nd wedding you just attended, does not look forward to spending Christmases with you. That was a pretty specific, if gratuitous insult.
Poor little Weston and Nataliia, being drilled with names to remember, "so that they wouldn't embarrass us, you know". They are three and four years old, for goodness sake. Weston's confusion and discomfort often makes its way into Davey's sermons, and is always a source of great entertainment to his pig of a father. In fact, a compilation video cataloging the systematic, physical and physiological abuse of Weston might make interesting viewing for CPS.
(Continued - Resonate 24 December message)
And even though we don’t even know what he looked like [chuckle] we can see a picture and recognise that’s Jesus. Now before our worship leader cut his hair everybody thought that he was Jesus, when he’d get up here and he’d start ]laughs]. My, my question today is what -what does Jesus mean to you? What’s that name mean to you? Because whether - whether you like it or not, the reality is when all the Christmas gifts are done, and as the years turn over and over, and more Christmases come and more Christmases go, and at some point, every single one of us are gunna step into this part of our life - the twilight of our life, where whether it’s early or whether it’s late, whether you’re old, whether you’re young, whether it’s untimely or I don’t even know if there’s ever a death that's timely, but at some point, you're gunna, you’re gunna step over the line - and you’re gunna step into eternity, and Scripture says that every single knee will bow to this name, Jesus. Whether we like it or not. Whether we do it volitionally or not. Whether it’s on our own accord or whether it’s - forced on us - and it’s because his name is so powerful and so influential - that the weight of it absolutely overwhelms us.
Is that what Jesus means to you? What does Jesus mean to you? Is Jesus like, remember the t-shirts - ‘Jesus is my homeboy’? -you know like, is he just kinda like this side ancillary thought, if you get in trouble, you call on God, like, ‘Oh, God, give me’ - you know ‘I need some help right now’. What does Jesus mean to you? Is he just this kind of side thought, th-this kind of thing that you do every couple of times a year where you go to church, you kind of acknowledge this thing Jesus, or like - or is he actually the Lord and Saviour of your life? Does he actually have the keys to your life? What does Jesus mean to you?
Now Jesus, two thousand years ago, the actual historical figure of Jesus, he stepped on the scene over two thousand years ago, and he came in the form of this - th-uh, really odd form, of a baby - and this is what we celebrate at Christmas. You know, we’re teaching Weston and Natalia right now that yeah, you know, there’s - um, we tell them there’s Santa Claus, right - um, even though right now I want you to know if you have kids in ResKids they’re breaking the news to them there’s no such thing as Santa Claus - so - [chuckle] I’m just kidding, they’re not really doing that - I’m just kidding - that’d be terrible, right? I’ve heard of churches that do that - I’m like what, why would you do? And so we got each Weston and Natalia one big gift, they don’t need toys - we got them each one big gift, and I’m not gonna tell you what that one big gift is, but it’s a big gift - each of them is gonna have the same, it’s really awesome, it’s gonna be really cool - but Santa Claus ain’t getting the credit for that - we’re getting the credit for that one, because it’s a big gift - we ain’t giving Santa Claus the credit for that one. But, but I need you to know that um, when Jesus stepped on the scene, and this whole thing that we celebrate of Christmas - it, it’s actually the birth of Jesus, it’s right about this time, that when all that happened there were some responses to this person Jesus. And what I want to do, I wanna walk through four different responses — there were a lot more responses than four, but four big ones that we see in Scripture - four characters that we see in Scripture, and here's what I want to ask you to do for the next couple of minutes. I want to ask you to put yourself in the place of one of these characters. Cause I believe that you're going to be able to identify yourself with one, if not more than one of these four responses.
So Kate McCann blabbers on about Missing People charities every Christmas...she's at least trying to send support to find other missing people to continue her sad ruse.
Why don't Davey, Amber, and Phil's "body of Christ" champion automatic locking doors which could have saved Amanda?
Haha
Lol! (for the snowflakes here who sit up and take notice when I LOL them):
It’s increasingly entertaining to read your creative fiction here. You have generated a narrative....a story.... that has no relation to the facts of this case (which BTW, has been solved, except for you deluded few here).
Amusing how you have cast these people in the ever-evolving roles you write for your work of fiction. Gotta hand it to you, though—you (inexplicably) appear to believe in your fiction, although no real facts or evidence can corroborate your fictional plot.
Bobcat, I remember that whole Jake Baird thing, where Davey talked about he couldn
t imagine something like that happening, I thought that was weird. I looked Jake Baird up and it looks like he has a new wife and baby. His second son is from the wife who died mysteriously in her sleep. The first son was from another wife. I wonder what happened to her? That is another rabbit hole but I just found that interesting and why even bring it up and say I had no idea, no idea this would happen to me.
Anon @ 9:39
Thanks for acknowledging a believable timeline.
I can't help that you have a starring role.
I agree about the lock door campaign. They all give Davey the "oh, I never locked my doors either." What? Who in America right now would not keep their doors locked? AND don't give Davey a pass. He lived in Indianapolis! No one in or near a big city like Indy should EVER leave their wife and baby in the house and purposefully leave the door open because "she was about to get up anyways." Another huge red flag. I can see if he just forgot and ran out absentmindedly and left it unlocked but he is saying he purposefully left it unlocked. He said he just refused to "go there" with the guilt. He should "go there" with the guilt. It is on him!! Even if some still want to believe this was a "random run of the mill target a tiny house in the back of neighborhood in the morning while people are leaving for work while hubby just happens to be at the gym random execution". Her family and Davey should start a campaign about home safety and locked doors in honor of Amanda.
By the way, DB and K are on the 2nd part of their honeymoon now. It is some fancy place with palm trees everywhere. He posted it on an instastory at some point today. He flaunts his lavish lifestyle constantly when doesn't everyone know he still just preaches in a school gymnasium to a handful of people. He is living off donations and insurance but really how much did he get and long will it last? I see his book in the bin at the dollar store if it even ever gets published.
LOL! Davey Blackburn said that God allowed Davey's bride to be be murdered so that Gods bride could come alive, and we're the fiction writers? This case has not been "solved" and only a fool would think that. One of three accused has taken a plea and the other two are still awaiting trial. How is that a "solved" case? They might be found not guilty.
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So I’m gonna actually ask for a couple of volunteers, um, up here. let’s - why, come up here and help me out? Come on, this is my A man corner right here. Um, let me see, i’m gonna get some people I know, so that - we don’t wanna, um, let’s see - let’s see here. Uh, everybody’s like - is anybody, anybody want to volunteer - no? Joseph, why don’t you come up here - Joe. Come on,
come on, Joe, come on up here, right. Right, here’s what I want you to do - I want you to go sit in the far end of that seat right there, and then, Joe, I want you to sit right next to him. I picked you Joe for a reason. You’re gonna see why in a second. Because Joe, Joe is in like business school right now, right? He’s in business school - come on, give it up for Joe. He’s gonna learn how to be a business man, we gonna, we gonna talk about that in a second. Um, Mason - come on, you look, you look like the character that I want you, yeah that’s gonna be real good - Mason, I want you to sit on this side of the bench right here. And uh, [under breath] ‘please don’t pick me, please don’t pick me, please don’t pick me, please don’t pick me, please don’t pick me, please don’t..’ - Ashley, come on. Yes! No, you can’t? Okay, Amber, come on up here - let’s go - haha, Amber, come on, you stuck up for her, let’s go..come on. I want you to sit up on the very end over here, alright. I’ve got four characters I want us to talk about today. These are the characters - King Herod, we’re gonna talk about in just a second who that is, and why it’s significant. We’re going to talk about the innkeeper - we’re going to talk about the shepherds, and we’re going to talk about the wise men, or in this case, the wise woman, right? She - huh, huh [laugh] huh, yeah, right - so, we’re gunna, huh, we’re gunna, we’re gunna walk through this just like this, and I wanna talk about these four characters - I want you to write these down. The first one I wanna talk about is - the inn - the first one I wanna talk about is King Herod and the response that he had to Jesus. The response that King Herod had to Jesus.
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When Jesus comes on the scene, the government that was in charge at the time was the Roman government, and so maybe through history you’ve learned about the Roman government or maybe you’ve - I’m reading a book right now By Bill O Riley called ‘Killing England’, which is about the English - right, the British government, and the American Revolution, and there were two major governments that throughout history basically they said the sun never set on their territory, right? One was the British government and one was the Roman government. So the Roman government conquered all of this land, all of this territory, and what they did, is especially in this area of the Middle East, and Jerusalem, where Jesus and Israel were - where Jesus comes into the scene, where Jewish people were, they said, hey, King Herod, they set up a half-Jew, half-Arab as the king, King Herod, they said, hey, look, as long as, as long as you keep the peace over there, as long as you squel-squelch any uprisings, as long as nothing, you know, like major happens, we’re going to let you have power over your people right there. Now, everybody resented King Herod because he wasn't really a god-fearing man, he was in fact extremely, extremely cruel, and we’re gonna get to that in a second, but I wantcha to see where we first see Herod on the scene, in this time period, where Jesus comes onto the scene, and it says this in Matthew, um - it says, ‘when Herod the King heard this, he was troubled ‘- what did he hear? I’m so glad you asked because i’ll answer it for you. He heard that there was a baby that was gonna be born, who was going to be the King of Kings. Or also the King of the Jews. Now that was a problem for Herod, because Herod called himself the King of the Jews. He was the king, the despot, the evil tyrant that was set up in charge of the Jews, and so when he hears this he’s troubled because Herod was a very - um - how do you say this? Uh, paranoid leader. Anybody else feel like you have a boss that’s a paranoid leader. don’t raise your hand if your boss is sitting in here - c’mon, Resonate staff members don’t raise your hand at all. Paranoid leader, and so, so he was very notorious for being cruel to anybody who would threaten his throne. In fact, why don’t you stand up and be King Herod?
I wonder if Amanda's life insurance had double indemnity. Did an already huge policy on a young stay at home mom, pay double for murder?
You are spot on, Bingo. Amanda and Davey started the church with the intention of helping people who are "far from God". That includes the worst of humanity (the unforgiveable). They knew who and what they were dealing with. The door should have been locked. They were also members of neighborhood watch and they went to meetings with the organizer of their group, who lived on on their very street. It is inconceivable that door locking isn't a priority for neighborhood watchers.
Is the pastor Jake Baird whose wife also died, is he the neighbor who was Amanda's youth minister who DB talks about this guy was it living near where the Sebring was parked? Do you guys recall who I'm talking about?
Thank you, Hey Jude. You are amazing.
What's the deal with Davey and "bosses"? In one sermon he says he wants to replace the word "shepherd" (for God) with the word "boss" (for God) so that it is more understandable for contemporary audiences. OK. But then he launches into bad bosses, and how bosses want you to do things that are not right. Huh?
And then there's the story of being dangerous enough to sit down and dine in the presence of your enemies, and how Davey went to a cafe in Chicago and saw some scary mob guys who, according to crazy Davey (eavesdropping) said "Don't worry about it boss, I know a guy...."
I always thought that was tantamount to a confession to organizing Amanda's murder.
Crazy Davey clearly thinks he is the boss of Resonate, rather than a shepherd or a pastor. And paranoid? Well he introduced that word.
Oh my gosh!!
This is getting funnier all the time.
LE.....Where ARE you?!?. I think these detectives have solved the case!
Uh....pssssst, genius detectives, do you think if LE had any doubts about who was involved in this murder, they might be reading here? Wouldn’t they also have had information from those they’ve already arrested (despite your theory that is right out of a crime drama—a poorly written one, at that)?
Oh well, hang onto your stories. Keep coming up with theories that absolutely never occur to REAL, LEGITIMATE investigators. They desperately need your help.
Poor DB is spending his honeymoon trying to deter us. He's told himself his story about Amanda enough times, now he's hoping that we'll believe we're a bunch of fiction writers. If only that were true and Amanda were still here.
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Let me tell you about some of the cruelty that King Herod possessed. [Laughing] He was so bad - terrible. Herod had nine wives - now I say had, that’s a lot of mother in laws - I say had because he executed one of his wives, because he was suspicious that she was trying to take over the throne. And not only did he execute one of his wives, he also went ahead and executed all of the rest of her family as well - extended family. Just to ensure that nobody in her family was gonna try to threaten the throne. Not only did he do that, but he had three sons - not one, not two, but three sons that he executed because he felt threatened by them - and thought they were going to try to take over the kingdom. Caesar Augustus, who - you are very familiar with that name, he actually said this about King Herod, he said it would be better to be one of Herod’s pigs than one of his sons. This is how, this is how nasty and cruel this man was, and he was the leader at the time. Now oftentimes, it’s interesting we freak out over the fact that we have different leaders that may seem corrupt, or different leaders, he didn’t hold a candle to the uh, [cough]to the time context that the Jewish people were in when they were begging and pleading God for someone to come and rescue them. And at this moment they're begging and pleading God for God to send somebody to rescue them from this oppressive government, and Herod hears about this prophecy, and multiple prophecies about a baby that’s going to be born that's going to take over his kingdom, and so he freaks out. But he does it in a very shrewd manner - go ahead and sit back down for a second - I’m going to read the rest of the scripture - it says, ‘he was troubled, and all of Jerusalem with him; and assembling all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born, and they told him in Bethlehem of Judea, for so it is written by the prophet; and you, O Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah, for from you shall come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel’.
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Okay, let me call time out for a second and take that down. Um, I wanna explain to you what this prophecy thing is - because this is really fascinating - so about a thousand years before Jesus was ever born - wrap your mind around that - a thousand- about a thousand years before Jesus was ever born, there were some men that came on the scene and said okay, there’s gonna be a Messiah, God’s gonna send somebody to rescue us - and there were a lot of prophecies that were foretold about Jesus, which by the way, listen, hundreds of prophecies that were foretold about Jesus, and he actually fulfilled every single one of ‘em. Every one of ‘em. Historically speaking, fulfilled every one of them. The odds of that are absolutely asinine to think about. But there are five main prophecies, and I’m gonna give you a couple of those. One of ‘em, is that he was going to be born a -a baby, and it was going to be born of a virgin. So there was going to be a-a woman who was a virgin that it was going to be born of - it’s - this person was going to be born the Messiah, was going to be born in Bethlehem, in this town of Bethlehem, which is where King David, the most famous king of that day - where he was born hundreds of years before that - it was gonna be in the line, the lineage, the descendants of David- there were going to be powerful prominent men that came from the far stretches of the globe to come and visit this baby. And this right here is where we find ourselves in this passage of Scripture, because there were these men called the wise men, or the magi, who had come from all the way in the Far East to come and visit this baby. And it says this: ‘Then Herod summoned the wise men and secretly- secretly- and ascertained from them what time the star had appeared.’
The last prophecy, the last major prophecy is that there was going to be a star that declared the birth of Christ, that was gonna appear in the heavens, and the wise men saw the star from afar - that was really cool, it rhymed, maybe I should write some songs - saw the star from afar, and came a long distance to go and visit this baby - and Herod stops them. He goes, okay, hold on a second, I wanna - I wanna know about this baby. And it says: ‘And he sent them to Bethlehem, saying, "Go and search diligently for the child, and when you have found him, bring me word” - watch this - “so I too may worship him."’
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Now, knowing what we know about the background of Herod that I just told us - does anybody here think that he actually intended on worshipping this - child? No. What did he intend on doing? Eliminating him. Killing him. In fact the cruelty that I just explained about Herod, it doesn’t st-, doesn’t stop where I just explained it. About two years after Jesus’s birth, he gets impatient, he issues this decree, because he can’t find this baby, cause God protected Jesus. He couldn't‘t find the baby and so he issues a decree that every male baby under the age of two - be eradicated. So soldiers of Herod go and knock on doors all over Bethlehem, and they pull babies out of mothers’ arms, and women who were going into labour, as soon as they had the baby, they do whatever means possible to kill them - strangle them, throw them in the river, saw them in half with their swords - whatever they need to do. This was a massive, massive slaughtering of little babies. I’m sure at the time there was probably a lot of voices that cried out, ‘God, wh-wh-where are you? What’s what’s going on - where are you in the midst of this?’ And God looked upon that and I’m sure he was absolutely devastated and distraught about what took place right there - but he had a plan, and he protected his Son, Jesus, and Jesus was able to narrowly escape that.
I want to stop right here for a second on the cruelty of Herod - because, um, Herod seems like a really bad person, right? And his response to Jesus seems very violent and malicious - and it was - but can I issue you, to you today that his response to Jesus is not very much different than all of our responses to Jesus? What, what do you mean by this, Davey? I’m not a bad person. Like, cruel - I don’t like harm people - no, but what Herod tried to do, and attempted to do, he tried to murder Jesus, and the reason he tried to murder Jesus is because he was going to do everything that he possibly could to make sure that Jesus didn’t sit on the throne - to make sure that Herod himself was the only person that sat on the throne of this nation. Let me ask you a question. Who sits on the throne of your life?
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Who calls the shots?
Think about it.
Do you?
Do you call the shots?
Does someone else call the shots for you? Are you guided by a boyfriend, or a girlfriend, in your decision making, are you guided by a spouse, are you guided by career, are you guided by - and controlled by money? The desire for power? Like, what is it? There’s - everybody has something that sits on the throne of their life, or someone that sits on the throne of their life, that it - in charge, that calls the shots, and for a lot of us, especially before you step into a relationship with Jesus, it's yourself- you call the - the shots - you sit on the throne of your life. And when you step into a actual relationship with Jesus, see, what you gotta understand about this whole thing of Christianity, is that it’s not a religion, people come to me and say I’m not really religious, Davey, I can’t come to your church - I’m like, good, I’m not either - cause this whole thing’s not about a religion, it’s not a checkmark box of do’s and don't s, or what I’m supposed - this is not, this is about a relationship with Jesus, it’s about receiving what Jesus did for us two thousand years ago, where he died on the cross, to make available to us the forgiveness of sins, and to allow us to walk in freedom from those sins, from shame, from guilt, and this whole rel-this whole relationship with Jesus is all about one thing - hey, Jesus, you have the keys to my life. You sit on the throne of my life. But can I tell you something, especially in American Christianity, we will do whatever we can to try to kill anything which tries to usurp ourselves on the throne of our life. So our response oftentimes is not much different than Herod.
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Who sits on the throne of your life? I started thinking about this, and when I was studying Herod, the Lord really spoke to my heart and said, Hey Davey, you think that you’re not that bad of a person, but um, but I would venture to say that - and this isn’t just for me - I don’t know about you, but I’m - I’m - I’m just as bad as Herod. I’m just as bad as Herod. You know why? Because my sin murdered Jesus - so what Herod attempted to do, guess what? - I did. And so did you. Can I, can I tell you why Jesus actually came - and he came in the form of a baby, so it is a little bit weird, and it can kind of throw us off of the reason he actually came - is because there is this very real thing called sin, that plagues our society, plagues mankind, and it plagues you, and it plagues me. And sin is a really bold word, it ‘s really one of those word where ‘Oh, I don’t like that word.’ - but here’s what sin means - sin means missing the mark, missing the mark of God’s standard. And because every single one of us, listen, myself included, I’ve probably outsinned all you guys ten to one this week, because every single one of us have missed the mark of God’s standard. Scripture makes it clear to us that we are destined to be separated from God for all of eternity, that if we were to step over into eternity, if you were to breathe your last and you don’t have the forgiveness of Jesus Christ that has covered your life, you're destined to be separated from him for all of eternity. And what of - often people go to, especially in our kind of culture is, well, I’m a good person, like, like why would God do - why would God send me - let’s just go ahead and call it what it is - why would God send me to hell, because I’m a good person. Let me ask you something. How bad do you have to be to be sent to hell? Let’s just talk rationally for a second. How bad? Like Herod bad? Like - I don’t know, Adolf Hitler? Joseph Stalin? Like, there’s - can we all agree there’s a spectrum of good and bad. So let me ask the inverse question - how good do you have to be to not be sent to hell for all of eternity? See, a lot of people are not going to be straight up with you. I love you so much that I - we’re going to be straight up with you.
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And oftentimes what we try to make this whole thing about is the good and the bad, the good and the bad, the good and the bad, the right and the wrong - it is just not about that. On the spectrum - okay, let’s do zero to ten, right - zero being like, like, zero is right, you are really bad like Adolf Hitler bad right, okay, which probably none of us are there - anybody there? No, mean you came to church on a Sunday morning, so probably about here - probably a decent person - but OJ the good end, let’s say ten is like Billy Graham, like - do you guys know that name, Billy Graham? Right. Or Mother Teresa. Like, like where do you lie on that spectrum. Think about it for yourself, where do you lie? How good are you, how bad are you? So then, how good do you have to be to be made right with God again? You see the problem? Because every single one of us can find somebody in our life that is better than us from a moral standpoint, and every single one of us can find somebody in our life that’s worse than us. And so, if we just base our - listen - our salvation, our eternity, on moral relativity, like who’s - I’m better than this person - at least I’m not this person - like - what? S- some-some shaky ground. So what about - what if we look at the real standard - and that’s Jesus. Anyone in here say that you’re like at Jesus level? Anybody? No, me neither. If Jesus and I like stepped into a room together, first of all like I’d probably be on my face thinking, oh, my gosh, because i’m nothing compared to Jesus, but I can guarantee you, nobody would mistake us as twins - at all. Derek maybe, but not - so, if we just level the playing field-in fact, Scripture says this: all of us have sinned, and we all fall short of the glory of God. And your sin, and my sin, and King Herod’s sin, is on the same level playing field in relation to Jesus. So, thanks for bringing me to church, I feel really condemned. no, we’re all condemned, every one of us, that’s the bad news. The good news is that - it doesn’t end there - see the bad news of scripture says that the wages of sin, the penalty of sin, the price of sin that has to be paid, is death, but the gift of God - this is the good news - thank God that he is generous especially around Christmas season, and he likes to give good gifts. Cause the gift of God is eternal life through hisSon, Jesus Christ, who hung on a cross for you and for me. So,it doesn’t matter how bad you are, if King Herod had put Jesus on the throne of his life, everything that he had ever done would have been washed away completely. Forgiven. But he didn’t - I gotta ask you again - whose on the throne of your life? Whose on the throne of your life? That’s King Herod.
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^^ That’s up to 31min.55 seconds from a 53 minute recording.
So, God spoke to Davey again, ventured to speak to him, even - though Davey seems to have lost 'God's' train of thought before he reached the end of the sentence.
Thanks Hey Jude!
Remember the interview Davey gave when he said, "It's such a conundrum"? I put up a part 1 and part two tonight of that extended interview. If anyone missed it, it's worthy of a watch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-oNlRncnv0 and part two https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhUWvRW3uq4
Good job with the videos, Kate - Bobcat's blog is good for timestamps on transcripts to help save time listening all through the videos - I mostly don't include them, should make more effort. :)
I'm transcribing this one as it's his first post-remarriage video. Am hoping there might be more about the honeymoon in the rest of it - will have another go later.
So far - he has cut his honeymoon in half, informed this gal, Kristi, that she's a Blackburn now, and also outsinned all his audience this past week. Hope that's not why he has cut his honeymoon in half.
She is a Blackburn now and she is Weston's Mommy because you know "Behold, God is doing a new thing." Delete Amanda
Speaking of Chicago, the Kilt gang members have gang friends from Chicago that they met in prison. These guys are apparently much worse than the Kilt gang. Jay Broski was in Chicago a week before Davey and Amanda. I have wondered if Davey's first choice was to have Amanda the victim of a random homicide in Chicago, as Chicago has some of the worst murder rates in the country.
As for Larry Taylor's first murder, the apartment complex is one of the only ones in the area that has a guard and secured entry. LT supposedly told others the day before that he was going to "hit a lick" (Treley Kidd uses this phrase a lot) at the La Joya apartments. Why would he pick one with a guard and security gate when there are much easier apartment complexes to rob someone at? And from Yelp, etc, this apartment complex had a lot of drug dealing and Hispanics. We know that Treley and the other gang members seemed to enjoy harassing Hispanics. Hopefully, LE took LT's phone as evidence so they can prove that he was indeed showing videos of the murder to these CIs, who were, according to the APC "known to the police".
And thank you HJ for transcribing the diatribe that is DB. It would scratch my cornea to watch this egotist try and convince the 10 hipsters that are in the church audience that he actually speaks the Word.
I just realized something, thanks to Bobcat's link. Jameel McGee, the guy who was framed by Andrew Collins, and who Davey has interviewed, is from Benton Harbor, MI. Jeremy McGee, aka Jay Broski, the gang member that went to Davey's gym, is from Benton Harbor, MI and lived there at the time Jameel did. Benton Harbor has a population of about 10,000 people.
Kate, those videos! Davey sure did look polished, fluffed, ironed, gelled and groomed for a man who just lost his wife in such a brutal way. I loved how the cameraman kept zooming in on Davey's stone cold eyes. That was on purpose for sure. AND realllly? when DB says we don't understand why bad things happen to good people? Oh my gosh, seriously? And "Amanda doesn't have an enemy in the world, not one." Hmmm, I can think of one. Davey saying "we don't get it and sometimes we feel lonely"? Who is the we?? It was always "we" when DB was asked about how they are holding up. He acts like he is talking about an acquaintance. It is like he is a family spokesperson, far removed from the tragedy.
Anon at 10:07, are you saying that Jeremy McGee is Jay Broski? I thought Jay lived in Indy based on his Facebook.
Anon @ 11:21, yes Jeremy McGee is Jay Broski. He lives in Indy and went to North Central High School but grew up in Benton Harbor, MI.
From his FB:
Went to North Central High School
Lives in Indianapolis, Indiana
Single
From Benton Harbor, Michigan
Followed by 1,582 people
Thanks Anon at 11:27, is he the leader of the Kilt gang?
Anon at 10:07, wow that's quite the discovery. Are they related on FB? Can we find a link between the two? I have not watched the message at DB's church featuring the two. Very good find. This could link DB to the leader of the gang who killed AB.
Jay is a rapper, model, and actor who is more popular, more connected, and better looking than Davey. He also is not saddled with any children. The sky is the limit for Jay. Throwing suspicion in his direction is to take attention away from Davey. It's what the guilty do.
Anon @11:42, Jeremy McGee is one of the leaders of the Kilt gang. Many of the older gang leaders are in prison for life, and many are dead, mostly from street violence. Jeremy is one of the few that is not in prison, although he has done time. Treley Kidd is currently in jail but for a minor offense. He is one of the other older gang members and also Diano Gordon's cousin (and Jeremy McGee's best friend).
Anon @11:54, you're joking, right? Jeremy Mcgee, aka Jay Broski, is a gang banger and has been since he was young and brags on SM about the violence he's bestowed upon others. All of the Kilt gang members make rap videos, and the lyrics are all about raping, killing, stealing, etc. He's not a model but he is a fitness trainer at LA Fitness on Shore Dr, the same one Davey went to before he was able to afford Crossfit. Btw, if this is the type of guy that you aspire to be with, he's single and looking:
Jay Broski
December 26 at 8:25pm ·
I want me a stripper girlfriend.
Let’s get this money bae ��
Wow, this is getting intense. DW- are you still on here? You need to see this.
Anyone on here also notice on DB had to bring up a book he's reading in the Bill O'Riley series about "Killing." I found his book read list on Good Reads recently and posted it on here on how was reading books about the assassinations of presidents right before AB's murder. Now he has to act like he'e reading "Killing England" to talk about the history around Jesus's birth. What a psycho. Once again trying to cover his tracks. Hey, DB, we're on to you!
Still here and will update the dossier this evening. The reporter from the Christian Post, who has written articles being critical of Davey, is the one who posted all of the affidavits of probable cause. I'm going to send him a link to this thread.
At 11:30, Davey says "I'm sorry" as if he is speaking for Amanda, while selling the "honesty, honesty, and transparency" of her "final journal entries". 11/17/2015
"And uh, this is just full of like, ah, honesty, hah, just, countless, um, prayers of just, transparency and honesty, saying, I'm sorry for feeling this way, Lord."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-oNlRncnv0
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Um, let’s talk about the second one. Big Joe, why don’t you stand up for me? This is the innkeeper. The innkeeper. And uh, I- I picked Joe because the innkeeper was a really savvy businessman. I mean he ran like, I don’t know, I’m sure it wasn't a Radisson, I had to be like a Marriott, or something like that, right? I mean if God’s sending his son to an inn, Joseph and Mary are rapping on a door, they ain't going to a Raddison, I’m sure that Joseph was a hotel snob like me, you know what I’m saying? And so he- he comes to the innkeeper, and can you just imagine the scene, right, Mary, Joseph -they’re- they’re told that they need to go because there’s going to be a census that’s taken. where they're counting all the people in that region and they're sent t-to their birthplace, right, Bethlehem, which also fulfils the prophecy then that the Messiah’s gonna be born in Bethlehem. It’s amazing how God weaves all of the details of life to go back to what his plan is. And so he - the innkeeper answers the door and Mary and Joseph are knocking on the door, and I - I don’t know about, I mean I can't imagine this is a very peaceful scene, like, the whole nativity scene, like, that looks real peaceful, that looks really cute, doesn't it? You know, you can paint that on your, on your kids’ mural, but I don’t know if any of you guys saw in eighth grade they showed us ‘The Miracle of Life’ - right, the birth movie, okay - there ain't nothing peaceful about that. That’s a nasty scene, alright - and ladies, if you've had a baby, you know there ain't nothing peaceful about that. And fellas, if your wife has had a baby, you know there ain't nothing peaceful about that - she gives you that look like ‘you did this to me - you did this to me’, right? - there weren't epidurals back in the day, there weren’t none of that, this is au naturale, baby, no midwives, no water birth, no ‘oh, I think I want to do this at home because, I don’t know, I just like the comfort’ - no! You got Mary and Joseph rolling up on a donkey and Mary is freaking out, in labour, and the innkeeper answers the door. They’re like, do you have a room for me? This is a panic situation. I’ll never forget - I’m gonna have you stand right here - I’ll never forget when we had Weston. I mean it was - I don’t know if this is true of your house when this whole thing happened, but fellas, this is what happened to me, right. So Amanda wakes me up at two o’clock in the morning - she wakes me up like this, she’s like, [whispering] hey - she’s like rubbing my arm - hey, my water just broke. [audience laughter] Talk about like an inappropriate response right there. I like wake up, I’m like who, what? - I’m wiping the slobber, I’m like, [loudly] What did you say? She goes [whispering] my water just broke - it’s okay, I’m just gonna go take a shower. I’m freaking out, I jump up out of the bed, I’m grabbing the bags that we just packed, cause we had it all bagged up - he was two weeks early - i’m like throwing stuff in this bag - I’m like, oh, my gosh, I’m loading the car, warming it, I’m trying to get everything going - and I come back in the house and homegirl is vacuuming our house. [Audience laughter].
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I don’t think Mary was anything like that. I think she was probably freaking out, and they're like, hey, can you give us a place to stay, we’re trying to just birth the Messiah, no big deal - you know? And the innkeeper says we don’t have any room. In fact, look at what it says in the book of Luke, and it says, ‘And she gave birth to her firstborn son and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger.’ Mangers look so cute, but at the end of the day this was a feeding trough for animals. Think about that. We freak out these days about germs you know, I was like disinfecting everything, the little binky here, the whatever, pacifier, whatever you call it - disinfecting it if it drops on the ground, Jesus was laid in a feeding trough for cows. And the reason is because there was no place for them in the inn. Now, um, I don't think the innkeeper was that bad of a guy. I think he just didn't recognise the Messiah when the Messiah was right there in front of his eyes. You know why? I think he was just busy. I think he was dealing with all of his spreadsheets, and he was making sure Priceline had all the empty rooms so that they could, you know, fill the rooms for the night - you know, he was just dealing with all of this business stuff that he had going on - his own business that he didn’t have any room for the business of Christ.
Does that sound familiar? I know I’m guilty of this, guys. Because of my busyness, because of my distraction, because of the, like - sometimes Jesus can-can tend to take a secondary priority in my life. Or even a tertiary priority. He can just start to fall down the ranks of priority. It wasn’t even like that he kicked him to the kerb, he didn’t send him out into the streets, he said, hey, actually I’ve got a barn here - which actually if you go and visit the- the space, I’ve actually visited the spot in Israel, and in Bethlehem where they say that Jesus was born, and it’s actually more like a cave - he’s like I’ve got a cave here, you can have that - he wasn't cruel or mean to Jesus, but he just said, hey, you know what, I don’t have time for you.
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Does anybody resonate with this? T-to Jesus, or to the innkeeper, Jesus was not the top priority of his life. He was a part of his life, but I’m gonna tell you right now, two thousand years ago Jesus didn't come into this earth so that he could be part of our life, Jesus gave his life so he could be all of our life. And what you need to know about the innkeeper is - think about this - come on businessmen, think about this from a business sense, had the Messiah been born in his inn, if he had recognised Jesus right there, if he had recognised what God was doing right there, had he been born in this inn, his business would have abounded. Had he given them the upgrade and kind of kicked somebody else out because he knew the Messiah was being born - c’mon, we did this when we were in Chicago, we spent the fist part of our honeymoon in Chicago just now, and like - I w- every hotel we stayed at, I was like, hey, do you have a free upgrade for honeymooners [laugh] - I’ve no shame - whatsoever - right. I’m going to do it the second part of our honeymoon- I’m gonna be like, free upgrade? C’mon, hello. You know. And had they rolled out the red carpet like they did for us, and put us up in the deluxe, we put Jesus up in the deluxe - had he done that, you know you’ve been to the restaurants where they show all the famous people that they’ve had at the restaurant it begins to build the status of the restaurant- the restaurant begins to abound - had he done that, had he placed Jesus as the priority of his life, his life and his business would’ve abounded. But he didn’t. And now the innkeeper is some footnote in this little tiny line of scripture, and he doesn’t even get named. He just kind of falls to the wayside. Can I tell you something? Your life and my life abounds when Jesus is priority. But when he’s placed as a secondary, or when he’s placed as a tertiary, or when he’s placed down the ranks of our priority list, listen to me, I’m gonna tell you right now - [sigh] our life just kind of falls by the wayside as a footnote, and nothing significant can come out of it. Sure, you can operate a really cool hotel, or some good business, or you can have a good family, or you can be a good person, but at the end of the day nothing significant happens outside of Jesus being first and priority.
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Joe, Joe, you can sit down because I want to lean in on this just a little bit. I wonder if the innkeeper didn’t recognise Jesus because Jesus didn’t show up the way he thought Jesus was gonna show up. See, the innkeeper was a Jew, he would have also been waiting for the Messiah. He was waiting for the Messiah, he was expecting the Messiah, he was hoping for the Messiah, but when the Messiah shows up it was completely in a different way than what he expected, and I need you to know that Jesus will show up in our life in ways that are completely unexpected. You see, one of the biggest push backs to this whole idea of Christianity is, that I hear, is this - well how I. The world can God be good if there is pain and suffering in the world? And so something happens where you go to the doctor, and you get a bad doctor’s report - or you lose somebody that you love - or you lose your job, whatever it is, there's a difficulty there, or a trial that happens in your life, and you go, God must not be real, he must not be here, he must not be - he must be absent, he must not know, like he’s not showing up here, an-an-and here’s the thing, God shows up in the situations that we completely unexpect him to show up. So God’s not out of the picture when you get the report for cancer he’s actually right there in the picture, he shows up in the cancer report, he shows up in the death of s loved one, he shows up in the situation where you lose your job, or where you have a difficulty with a family member, you have a irreconcilable relationship, he shows up in those moments - the Bible says that in the valley of the shadow of death, I don't have to fear because you are with me. And I wannus to open our eyes and see the God sized thing that he’s doing inside of our difficulty, because I’ve - if there’s anything that I’ve learned over the past couple of years as I’ve walked through trials is that God will show up and he will tell us about him on the mountaintops but we get to know him in the valleys. And if the innkeeper had just - man, if he’d just kept his eyes open and not been so distracted I wonder if his life would've been a little bit different.
Is Jesus a priority to you?
Davey just never shuts up, he loves to hear himself speak.
Love how he calls himself a "hotel snob" on a pastor's salary. Nothing to see here, LE.
Takes new wife, who is a Blackburn now, on honeymoon, does not book a honeymoon suite, rather hopes for a free upgrade. I bet he pulled his poor (tragically widowed, found new love, praise the Lord, who always provides) pastor card on the hotel staff.
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In the video Kate posted of the extended interview, the interviewer cuts in on Davey as he is waxing lyrical about how 'restoration' has already begun, with the stark reminder that they haven't found the murderer yet. Davey looked a bit sheepish at having his narrative interrupted with a shot of reality there.
I don't understand how 'restoration' was or is possible to Davey's mind - Amanda is still murdered and dead. she can't be restored or replaced, like a piece of furniture. Peace of mind can't be restored while the murderer/s are apparently free on the streets. It was a great interruption.
Davey is very different, physically, in that interview to how he is now - and he presents himself as quieter than he more usually is, as if he's talking with a grandparent, trying to be on his best behaviour, but she's not buying it.
The murderers have been arrested......except in the minds of The Deluded Four (or Five) commenters in this blog (where peter rarely, if ever, has input these days after his slightly altered original post and “conclusion.”
The alleged murderers have been arrested. That does nothing to rule out a hit carefully orchestrated by Davey. For the hundredth time, there is no way IMPD could have ruled out any connection whatsoever between Davey and these thugs in custody and cleared him 100....no 150% - in the timeframe they did. If I recall correctly, at the time they “cleared” Davey, nobody had been arrested yet. Not these guys - not anyone. It is impossible to rule out murder for hire with the information IMPD has made public.
So how is it so carved in stone that this preacher boy who clearly resented his wife and ridiculed her in public (both in spoken word and in print/ on social media) had absolutely nothing to do with her murder? From the comments on Daily Mail UK, hundreds of people across the n-nation and um, even th-the world clearly think he might have, or did.
And if these anonymous posters are so secure in the knowledge that the murderers are locked up and the case is solved, why the extreme need to persuade on this boards that it is over? It’s not over until we decide to stop discussing it. And Davey’s marriage to Kristi has renewed what little interest there was in “his” story - and called attention to himself. He would’ve done well to hide in the shadows but no, he has to trot his new happy little family across the internet. Amanda really did lift right out, no matter how many Facebook posts Amber writes about her.
Oops ! Davey ! You might be, or are, reading and posting here while you are supposed to be away on your wedding trip with your magnificent mate. Maybe it would’ve been better to take more than a couple of years to grieve, uh, the loss instead of getting married almost two years to the day that your wife “passed”.
Davey had no idea anyone had been in his house. He had no idea there were bullets. And he had no idea how he was going to reach and share the gospel of Christ with those acacusrc of murdering Amanda.
How convenient that he is now married to the daughter (stepdaughter?) of the prison chaplain of the accused ! ? ! ? A man who I assume is in contact with them routinely. Do you SEE the dots that God is connecting here !
Seriously? This case is going to blow wide open at some point. People are not going to let it die. Not on this board, not on Datalounge or Daily Mail or web pages or the Christian Post or anywhere else. Too many unanswered questions. The dossier has been distributed and is being updated. Kate is posting videos. Bobcat is updating the blog. Hey Jude is transcribing (what a major sacrifice in time and sanity to actually listen to Davey not once but over and over and over to do transcription, thank you for falling on the sword for all the rest of us). There are FAR more than just four or five pitiful little souls invested in this case and who want the truth about what really happened that week of November 8th, 2015 to come out.
And those WTHR interview videos are chilling and definitely not indicative of a guy whose life was suddenly shattered by an unexpected brutal murder - it looks like a guy who knew it was going to happen and is covering his tracks, or attempting to. NONE of the news crews bought it - look at their statements and questions. Not WTHR (Michelle?) and her camera operator, not George Stephanopolous from GMA, not Steve Doocy from Fox.
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And yes Amber continues to have the gift (?) of writing extremely glowing and flowery Facebook posts about how she can barely breathe because she really REALLY really misses Amanda - but nothing on Christmas from Amanda’s snake of a husband, not even a mention. This would have been a prime time to shoot a pic of the new family dressed in Christmas clothes laying poinsettias on Amanda and Evie’s gravesite and give a mention to their extended family in heaven. I’m surprised we didn’t see it. Maybe that would’ve been too contrived even for Davey. But no mention at all speaks volumes.
And what a nice wedding trip, cut in half so Davey could make an appearance at Resonate. Kristi would do well to wake up and see where his priorities lie. I don’t see that as a committed pastor not wanting to “abandon” his flock for even one Sunday - but more as protecting the brand at the expense of bonding with his new wife. Hotel snob ? Please. I would have rather had uninterrupted time with T on a wddding trip even if we had stayed at a Holiday Inn. I wonder if Kristi feels the same way. I am sure Resonate would have understood if Zack W spoke on Christmas Eve while their pastor was on his wedding trip.
Any idea how long it will be before Kristi’s dad (stepdad?) sets up a meeting for Davey with his wife’s (alleged) killers?
Flightful Bird...you nailed it! Now that's the type of preaching I like to hear!
For the hundredth time.....everything said in this blog is designed to reinforce the theories of The Four (or five) Accusers here. You’ve written a story that does not include any evidence that LE has and is continuing to investigate in order to get a sure conviction. The ambiguity is not on the part of LE, but is here, because you SO want your conjecturing to pan out.
And for the hundredth time, you do not have access to the evidence collected by LE. It’s quite a handicap on your part, regardless how many times you repeat (day in and day out for two years) your fiction and conjectures....as fact.
Why don’t you do some leg work? There is more to investigating than posting on a blog where the guilty conclusion is loosely based upon analysis of second hand words. Why has LE not taken this seriously, or, indeed, why have they neglected to make use of statement analysis?
Meanwhile, continue to chirp like a flock of birds and gobble like a gaggle of turkeys. You’re ridiculous.
If we're just chirping, why the need to complain? DB, or DB's mom at 5:06.
Haha. Do you really think DB or his mom take you seriously enough to defend themselves here on this little blog (that Peter would like to forget)? You’re absolutely deluded (yet, hilariously entertaining).
I could rip you several more illustratrating your incompetency, but if you will notice, I only post very few times each week. It’s always done as I’m chuckling, too.
Let's just see how many people are on here, watching these posts. I'll go first. If you want to participate respond with your number. Number 1, one person on here following this story.
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The third one is the, um, the shepherds. Mason, why don’t you stand up for a second? The shepherds. These are interesting characters because um, the shepherds were a group of people that were the marginalised of society. In fact they were the group of people that were very unsuccessful, uh, when Jewish boys especially would grow up, they would be put in this track system where they would test their intelligence and test their acumen, and if they didn't make it in the religious sector to become priests, or to become, you know religious leaders, then they would end up going and taking their dad’s trade. But oftentimes all these trades that dads were - a blacksmith, or a baker, or a butcher, or a candlestick maker, or whatever those are, right? Nobody wanted to be a shepherd. The shepherd was kind of like the ostracised, it was like okay, you don't have anything else you can do, okay, go be a shepherd. Oftentimes it was, you know, sometimes it was people who had done something wrong and maybe they were coming out of like parole of criminals, and so they were sent out to the fields to be shepherds, to keep watch of the flock. And these were the kinds of guys, and these were the kinds of gals where they would feel like that they were completely disqualified from God doing anything good in their life, from God showing up in their life in a powerful way, and doing something in their life and through their life. Because maybe their past, what they had done, what had been done to them, these were the kinds of people that said there's no way, okay, God's forgotten about us, like, there's, there’s just no way that God can do anything powerful in my life. And you know what's really interesting? Right before Jesus is born, the very first people that hear an announcement about the birth of Jesus is who? You guessed it - the shepherds. God opens up the heaven one night when they're sitting out in the field, and angels come, and they announce to the shepherds there’s a Messiah that’s coming. And after wetting their pants, I’m sure, you know, the shepherds look around and they're like ‘are you - are you talking to us? Don't you know that like, hold on, don’t you know that like, a messiah doesn't show up in this way, a messiah doesn't show up and talk to us, we are the - we’re the cast out of society. Don’t you know what I’ve done? I can’t be anywhere near you God. Don't you know what's been done to me, like , I can’t - I’m, i’m used goods, i’m dirty, I’m like - m -I-I-I’ve got a mess, God, like you can’t show up to me.’ They completely didn't expect God to show up to them. I mean, I wouldn't have either. They were expecting a political leader to step up, roll into town on a white horse, and to conquer this Roman Empire that was oppressing them. That's what I would've expected, c’mon, I’m watching Aladdin with my little boy, I would’ve expected Prince Ali Baba rolling in with his elephant, come on, somebody. I will sing the song if you don’t laugh at that one. [Laughter] I got everyone of those words memorised on every single one of those songs. [starts singing]
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That’s what i’m expecting this, this Messiah’s coming in, and that’s not what happens. I would've thought they would have marched right up to the palace, right up to the temple, right up to Herod’s footsteps, and said, hey, new king’s here, bro’. No. They go to the shepherds, the ones who had made a mess of their life, and not only does God do something really powerful, he also entrusts them with something. Look what it says right here- it says, ‘When they saw it, they made known the saying that had been told to them concerning this child.’ God shows up to these people that have a mess of their lives and he entrusts them with a powerful message. He says, I don’t wanna just, i don’t wanna just do something in you, I wanna do something through you. Because there is nothing that can disqualify you from my grace. Isn’t that the powerful thing about grace, the fact that Jesus came and died on a cross for us is the perfect picture of grace, and grace is something where we're given something that we do not deserve. I’m gonna give my kids gifts tomorrow. Do they deserve those gifts? Heck, no. You know why I give it to them? Because they’re my kids. It’s grace. They haven’t done anything to d-deserve that, or to earn that, they don’t - my boy does not cut the yard, my little girl does not do the dishes - they don’t do anything to add any kind of monetary value to my household, they take, and take, and take, and take, and take, and yet, listen to me, because they’re my kids, I love them and I lavish gifts on them. That’s your Heavenly Father, and there is nothing at all that could disqualify Weston or Natalia from being my kid. Nothing. Can I tell you something? Listen to me very carefully. Nothing you’ve done, or nothing that's been done to you, can disqualify you from the love and the grace of our heavenly Father through Jesus Christ our Saviour. Nothing. He shows up to the shepherds, he says, hey, I want you on my team. The shepherds were like the - in the schoolyard- they were like the last ones to be picked for a team, and God’s like, no, no, that’s - it’s you, that’s who I want. See, God doesn’t call the equipped, he equips the called. He doesn't call those who are abled, he calls those who are available. My question to you is, what do you feel like you’ve done, or has been done to you that you feel like disqualifies you, and are you willing to answer God’s call on your life? Thanks, Mason, you can sit down.
Two, here.
Davey continues to use language that many who had had their loved one murdered by a bullet to the head, would not.
"Who calls the shots in your life"? I wonder who called the shots in Amanda's short life.
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The last one, I’m gonna invite Amber up to help me close this - the last one is Amber, our wise woman. Our wise woman. So, in this scene, we see these wise men, remember at the beginning, Herod intercepted them - these wise men are travelling from a far, far distance. And these are very, very learned men. They’re very intellectual- they’re astronomers and scientists who study the stars, who study all these religious texts, and they heard this prophecy from this ancient Jewish text, wasn’t even the Bible, but this collection of Jewish sayings - they heard this prophecy about a star that was gonna rise and it was gonna usher in this new kingdom. And so when they saw this, they began to search for truth, and I don’t know this to be true necessarily, cuz I’m just having to read between the lines, but I wonder if it’s because they had experienced everything that they knew - they knew all they could like learn everything- and they’re very wealthy men, we know this because they brought very valuable gifts across a long stretch of a journey, they brought gold, frankincense and myrrh, and they carried these very valuable gifts hundreds, if not thousands of miles across desert wastelands where there was a massive risk of being - of being stolen from. Thieves would come out into the desert, and they would ransack these travellers, and they-they risked all of that to come and sit at the feet of the Messiah. They didn’t even know who this was, they weren’t like Jewish men, they were, they were these learned intellectuals, and I can’t prove this, but I just wonder if it’s because they felt this void inside of their heart where they had studied everything there was to study, they had acquired everything there was to acquire, they had learned everything they needed to learn, and yet they saw something was missing. I wonder if you’ve ever felt that void. I’ve felt it. Before I gave my life to Christ that was the thing that drew me to him, it’s like I’ve got this almost - I didn't realise at the time - this God-sized hole inside of my soul that can only be filled with Jesus. You see, I told you earlier that - that the wages of sin are - is death - that the problem with our society, and the problem with me, and the problem with you is this thing that we’re plagued by, called sin, but huh, the gift of God is eternal life through his Son Jesus Christ. And the solution that we’re all looking for to fill that void, it's not in alcohol, it's not in prescription medication, it’s not in drugs, it’s not in careers, it’s not in building something and becoming this really successful person, it's not in relationships, it’s not in our spouse, it’s not in our boyfriend or girlfriend, it’s not in any of those things - it’s not in accomp -it’s not in any of that - the solution we’re looking for is in Jesus. And the wise men travelled to go and see Jesus.
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What’s really cool is I had a friend in college who said, man, I can't receive this Christianity thing because it looks to me as I study, he was very intellectual- it looks to me as I study that science and Christianity kind of conflict against each other, and I can't help but notice this beautiful scene where God - the one who hung the stars in the sky put this really prominent star in the sky, and then used these men’s desire to study science to draw them to him. You see, I don’t think science and Christianity conflict, I think God has created all these laws and scientific order in order for us to see him, and to come and worship him, and to remember that the reason for this whole season is not for Santa Claus, Christmas trees and gifts, and family, although those are all really fun things to do, but the reason for this season is this one little baby that’s stepped into this hellish earth, gave up all the comforts of heaven, and then he died for us - so that you and I could be set free, so that that void in our heart could be filled, so that on our quest for truth, whether we realise we’re searching for truth or not, whatever it is we’re searching for on that quest, we can find peace, we can find joy, we can find fulfilment. You resonate with that? So here’s what I’m gonna ask you to do, Amber, I’m gonna ask you to sit down, I’m asking everybody to bow their heads and close their eyes and as you do that I’m gonna ask our folks to go ahead and go back to your seat and right where you are, with your head bowed and your eye closed - your eyes closed I just wanna ask you one more question. What does the name of Jesus mean to you? What’s it mean to you? Again, is, is, is Jesus just something that you call on when you're in trouble? Is it just a part of your life? Is it something that you hear about when you go to church every coupla times a year? What does the name of Jesus mean to you? ‘Cause my prayer is that if he’s not your Lord and Saviour, if you have not given him the keys to your life, if he’s not your boss, if you’ve not yielded to him, and received the forgiveness of sins, and the gift of spending eternity with him one day, my prayer is that would be the case today for you, that you would step into that moment. That just like in one moment I went from Davey to Daddy, to Natalia, that in one moment it can go from Jesus to My Lord. That can be the case for you. So I’ma pray for us, and then we’re gonna spend a moment of reflection ‘cause I wantcha to think about what does Jesus mean to me? So, Jesus, we just ask right now that in this moment you would do something powerful in our lives, that you would help us to wrestle with, know what it is that you mean to us, to know whether or not we truly have given You the keys to our life, to know whether or not that you truly are our first priority of our life. Lord, I pray that you would show us, that you would draw us, that you would call us, and that you would do something powerful in our lives right now in this moment. In your name we pray, amen.
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It's too bad Amanda got disqualified from being Davey's wife, even though Perry assured everyone that she added value to the world at her funeral.
Good to hear Weston and Natalia are safe even though they "take" x 5.
No mention of Kristi. As long as she brings monetary value to Davey's household, will she retain her qualified status?
He kept his four volunteers standing uncomfortably on the stage, like lemons, during their turns as unnecessary visual aids. What was the point of having them on stage?
The talk was entitled 'The Wait is Over' - maybe he thinks he's funny.
A link to the video on Vimeo is here:
https://vimeo.com/248824701
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(Weston and Natalia, three and four years old, contribute nothing of monetary value to his household. Note for future reference? )
He must really not like Natalia's real father. Could he be DB's next victim?
Corrections - somewhere near the beginning OJ - was no OJ, autocorrect, don't know from what
@2.28 post above:
well how I. The world can God be good = how in the world can God be good
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Sure to be some other mistakes
How much life insurance is on Natalia's biological father, and who is/are the beneficiarie(s)?
Kristi, Weston, Natalia are introduced towards the end of Davey's most recent 'Nothing Is Wasted' Podcast. 'End of the Year - Most Spectacular'. Clips of earlier podcasts with Amber, Robin, Phil, others. Hardly an appropriate title given so much of the conversation is round Amanda's murder. . Sweetest kids. Megs also is present,'sitting over there' and is not forgotten, as part of the family... she doesn't speak, I don't think, have only listened once.
Davey After interviewing the kids, says -Give your tax deductible gift to help fund this podcast.
There's at least one spectacular Davey blooper in there. I want to say 'enjoy', but that might not be appropriate either.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57d4693846c3c43b07a0b1a0/t/5a44446ef9619a2bb2de2eef/1514423712291/NIWP_EndOfYear_Final.mp3/original/NIWP_EndOfYear_Final.mp3
I wondered if bio daddy was maybe not on the scene, or if so, if perhaps he is called Pappa by Natalia rather than Daddy. Seems he is on the scene, and that he also refers to himself as Daddy. Not sure what I am looking at here - is this Kristi with bio Daddy and Natalia?
http://picbear.com/sito_monroy
That's not Kristi, maybe he didn't turn gay after all. Looks like his girlfriend.....
Andres better pull a Katie Holmes and get Natalia out of Davey's grasp pretty quickly. That kid is not going to call Davey "Daddy" unless she's instructed to. She's already got a daddy that seems to adore her and now is being force-fed this new "daddy". Davey's ego will not let another man be #1 to Natalia. Watch your back, Andres. And lock your doors.
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There is this girl who stole my heart and calls me Daddy...Happy birthday baby!!! Es inhumano lo que quiero a mi chaparra! #3
Thanks, was confused there for a while, but I see it's not Kristi. Natalia's father does appear to have a girlfriend who is also in Natalia's life - I wonder then if it is only a rumour that he is gay. He posts photos of his daughter and obviously adores her. He says his paycheck goes on Natalia. Maybe they share custody?
If you only looked at the father's twitter and Instagram it would appear Natalia was only in his life as a very young baby, but these photos tell a different story. I wonder if he and Kristi share custody of Natalia - if not, there is regular contact between father and daughter, and he contributes to her upkeep. So Davey shouldn't really say 'my kids' - rather 'our kids'. I think it would be less problematic if Natalia were encouraged to call Davey 'Davey-Daddy' or an alternative, such as Papa, as she already has a Daddy. You can see there, Davey's explanation/justification for why she shouldn't call him Davey-Daddy - apparently that's disagreeable to Weston. It's potentially contentious if Natalia is encouraged to call Davey 'Daddy' when she already has a Daddy who has a part in her life. Davey says she did that in a moment of her own accord. I don't know how likely that is - all well and good, if she did, and if she is psychologically able to deal with knowing two men as 'Daddy' - it would not be healthy if she has been pressured to call Davey 'Daddy' in favour of 'Davey-Daddy'. Blended families involve the former spouse, and their relatives, too - Natalia's bio Daddy didn't get a mention in Davey's message. There is at least one paternal uncle, little cousin, and a grandmother, too. Well, hopefully it works out...
Thanks HeyJude for transcribing and leaving the links. I had the vid ready to go but now I am watching this self delusional man pretend to justify to others why they have deliberately chosen to mess with the kids heads in this way. This is yet another disaster waiting to happen. He may have Natalia's innocent mind right now, but if this marriage makes it to her teenage years, I see a world of trouble headed their way. I didn't even know Amanda and when I heard him speaking this way, I cringed. Man, I just can't believe he has anyone, ANYONE following him and his violent, victimized, disturbed "seasonal" sermons.
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He said Natalia, aged four, has 'that Beyoncé sass, you know?' :-/
I think that's disparaging of Natalia, to say the least.
Yes, Kate - the photos help illuminate 'the message'. :-/ Davey's pride in being called Daddy turns out to be positional - on his part, at least. They should have encouraged Natalia towards an alternative to 'Daddy', methinks. Maybe she does want to call Davey 'Daddy', too, to be like Weston.
Yes, hopefully that is it. I have a hard time understanding his logic. He doesn't want Amanda's death to define his church or life and God spoke to his heart and told him it wouldn't, but that seems to be his platform each time he speaks and it seems to be right when the audience is losing interest or doesn't laugh at his jokes.
He says he brought a 3 year old into the marriage, "a lot of baggage" then compliments Natalia up and down. I wonder if this is an indicator that he will be picking up on Weston, where he left off on Amanda. Why is Weston "baggage" but Kristi's daughter is a joy?
Maybe compensation to Kristi for writing this in his blog, suggesting Natalia was baggage - he introduced the idea of their kids as 'baggage' - she maybe didn't appreciate that:
'On top of this, I didn’t know this girl's story, but I was sure it had to have some kind of pain involved. She was 31 years old (at the time) with a three-year old daughter. I knew she had a backstory, but I guess it was in my best interest not to get involved with someone who was also carrying something into the relationship. You see up to this point I was pretty convinced I didn’t want to pursue someone who also had what some could perceive as baggage. I was bringing quite a bit of it into any relationship myself—recovering from losing a wife to murder, a two-year old son, an internationally known story, and the inevitable reality that whoever stepped into a relationship with me wouldn’t be able to help feeling like they were living in Amanda’s shadow and under the scrutiny of everyone who was following the story. In fact, when I gave it any considerable thought, it seemed an almost impossible hurdle to overcome. For that reason, I would occasionally feel pretty hopeless about finding true love again.'
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There are all sorts of reasons why Weston might be perceived as 'baggage' by Davey - continual reminder of Amanda, that which binds him to the family of Amanda, the prospect of the future for Weston as he learns what happened to his mother. Oh, and he 'takes' times five, whilst contributing no monetary value to Davey's household. What a strange thing to say of tiny dependent children, that they 'take' from the household, and don't 'deserve' gifts because they haven't earned them. He really is a case.
He just seems to take little digs at Weston when he can. The tourettes joke about Weston going to school with some "weird" kid thing and then he does a mock of a person with Tourettes, while preaching at his "service".
I finished up the vid, thanks all for your input and help and Peter for allowing us to discuss it all here. We will definitely have to keep a video library going at this rate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AEiXs2YFrI
Kate,
There are many transcripts and associated images at my blog here:
https://case-discussions.blogspot.com/
Each transcript blog has a few images of note that you can quickly scroll through for possible future videos.
There are also a number of images and links to blogs which point out inconsistencies in descriptions by Davey, Amber, and Phil (mostly Davey) Here:
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/
And here:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/photos/?ref=page_internal
Kate,
Wow! The video is beyond amazing! Thank you, thank you! I'm sure DB will have some type of a response for us!
I'm guessing some type of blog post about him and Weston. You are great at doing these videos! Do you do it for a living?
Are you kidding me right now? Davey is having Natalia call him Daddy although she has a Dad who obviously loves her very much. DB is such a narcissist control freak that he can't have anyone upstage him even Natalia's dad?! He is NOT her Daddy. Doubtful this marriage will even last and making her call him that is detrimental to her now and in the future. Has her real Dad been made privy to this?
Did he say like William Wallace that had his wife murdered?? Oh my gosh, Kate. I have watched a lot of his craziness and I never caught that one! Still watching the video. Oh, his outfits, they hurt my eyes.
Brava, Kate, brava!
I'm trying to see if there is a connection between Jameel McGee, whom Davey has interviewed and whose story about being wrongly arrested for drugs has been the focus of a few of Davey's sermons, and Jeremy McGee aka Jay Broski.
From SM, I found that Jeremy's dad is Jeremy Johnathon McGee ("Mc" or "Bear") and he was from Benton Harbor but now lives in Indy. His stepmom is Trenna Robinson-McGee, also from Benton Harbor and lives in Indy with Jeremy's dad.
I can't seem to find much SM on Jameel, although he was arrested in 2013 for marijuana possession.
And I have a name for Davey re: Natalia: "Step-Davey". Ha!
Kate, the video is awesome! One thing that I think would be good to add in the next video is Davey's purchase of his serendipitous mansion of half million dollars in Feb of 2016? (I may be off) but about that time. Amy Smith has written much about that. I will find her link. He not only bought this giant house but he also had it completely renovated and decorated with what appears to be all new furniture, rugs and accessories. Also, the vacations! I take one vacation a year, Davey seems to take 1-2 a month. I think he needs to be exposed of his lavish lifestyle. And that his supposed counselor made him join a country club and take up golf to deal with the grieving?? I think a complete video on his lifestyle would be awesome! Ha. Amy Smith calls it Marketing a Murder. His church has not grown. There are insiders on this SA who can attest that it has not. Where is this money coming from?? He flaunts it on social media as though he is a successful celebrity. His album flopped, book not published and he is still has a small church but he lives like he won the million dollar lottery.
Bingo, that is a huge resource, thanks for letting me know and I will be using it for follow up vids if you don't mind. He did say, "Like william wallace who had his wife killed. He has so many slip ups like that but the vid was getting too long.
Thanks guys for the nice words about the vid, but really you all need to take credit for staying with this case. If Peter didn't have this forum, chances are slim I'd be kicking that out.
Did you notice the part where Davey speaks to the life insurance? Now he, the Byars and everyone else who knew Amanda, knew she lived for Jesus, Davey all but says she was sacrificed for Jesus. We know now every minute of Amanda's day was spent following the lord and his word. So how come when speaking about death, does Davey say, she'd probably go back to Elkhart to be by her family, but lo and behold, she'd want Davey to spend every minute growing the church and spreading the good word. I don't believe that story for a second. It makes no sense, just another way to pat his ego and indicate she was too weak to carry a church by herself?
DE I hope you connect that angle, if you need any help or leg work done, let me know.
Is there any way we can include the house he bought with the life insurance money in the next video? Or is that something that can get taken down? I'd love to see a video featuring DB's new lifestyle: cars, house, trips, etc.
Anon, Thanks, would love Amy's link. I had it at one time but now I can't find it. That's a great idea about Davey livin' large! In the video, I put in where he was thrilled to receive an online donation of $20,000, so I'm thinking some of his money is being filtered in that way as he continues to beg for money.
Davey loves to reference his trip to Israel and talk down to the little folk about all his worldly wisdom. But he is right, his church "grew" by default - Amanda's death. Once the people went and listened to him preach, they didn't come back. Who would? He has his few steadfast follower's, but other than a sympathy nod, he's not making much traction.
I was looking at KM's FB and she posted a pic of herself on April 30 where she is looking out at the ocean:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=158435318022201&set=a.158435334688866.1073741827.100015672004166&type=3&theater
She seems to be wearing the same top that she had on in a pic on Davey's "I just popped the question" blog, where she is with the Byars family in a beach photo. They are all in swimsuit attire. In the April photo, Kristi is wearing beach pants and her hair is also the same as the pic with the Byars, ie no highlights that she had for the engagement photos.
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/she-said-yes
We know she doesn't live near the beach so not like she was able to take a quick trip there. I was wondering if these pics were from the Seaside trip that Davey took with the Byars in October 2016? It definitely wasn't the October 2017 beachtrip, as KM posted that pic in April.
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