Thursday, April 18, 2019

Linguistic Disposition: Actress Jenny Mollen Injures Child

           
                    Jenny Mollen public statement analyzed 



In analyzing a statement, we take careful note of the subject's linguistic disposition towards the alleged victim. It can be key to proper discernment. 

What does the alleged perpetrator (subject) indicate, via his wording, as attitude, towards the alleged victim?

Guilt has a powerful instinctive response to deny, cover, conceal, mitigate, shift, reduce, minimize and ultimately, justify itself. Analysts are trained to:

1. Classify sensitivity indicators regarding "quality" and contextual relevance. In early training, they learn to spot a sensitivity indicator, but as they progress, they then must move to deeper analysis, lest they assign meaning where they ought not to. 

2. Spot Linguistic Disposition (LD) in a statement. 

How does the alleged perp view the alleged victim?

Recall the analysis of the Suffolk County "hate crime" where a black family was "threatened" by a white supremacist:

"Dear African American family..."

The Linguistic Disposition of the short anonymous letter taped upon a Lindenhurst, NY family's home indicated a "positive Linguistic Disposition" by the author towards the recipients. 

The analysis concluded that the letter was written by a family member living in the home. 











3. Analysts are taught to look for the subtle shifting of blame and/or responsibility from the subject to the victim. 


The LD is revelatory: 

"Uh, so, you know, the baby wouldn't take her formula. She has to have it. "

In a shaken baby syndrome case, the above subject is shifting blame over to the victim. If she would have cooperated by drinking her formula, he would not have shaken her into a vegetative state.  

In the news is a social media posting by an actress.  

Let's look at the statement. 


On Saturday evening, I dropped my son on his head causing him to fracture his skull and landing him in the ICU. 
I am forever grateful to Lenox hill downtown and @nyphospital for their immediate response and aid. Thank you to all of the nurses, neurologists, pediatricians, residents, cafeteria staff and brave women that keep the visitor‘s bathrooms clean. Not sure how this post turned into an Oscars acceptance speech... But @biggsjasonThank god for you! Thank god, thank god, thank god.
It has been a traumatic week but Sid is home now taking things slowly and recovering nicely. He is also eating a lot of chocolate dipped ice cream cones and plans to try cherry dipped soon.
My heart goes out to all parents who have or will ever find themselves in this kind of position. You are not alone...


Here it is again, with some emphasis:

On Saturday evening, I dropped my son on his head causing him to fracture his skull and landing him in the ICU. 

She did not drop her son and he hit his head, but dropped him on his head.  

Note "causing him" is language that is consistent with guilt from child abuse, subtly shifting responsibility in spite of "I dropped..."

Question: Why did she post this publicly?

Next we see gratitude towards the hospital. This is a form of Ingratiation (IF) that most analysts will conclude to be appropriate when successful treatment has been realized. The expectation is, in this classification, gratitude towards the staff that responded to her son. 


I am forever grateful to Lenox hill downtown and 
@nyphospital for their immediate response and aid. Thank you to all of the nurses, neurologists, pediatricians, residents, cafeteria staff and brave women that keep the visitor‘s bathrooms clean. 


This is a form of ingratiation that is of concern since it goes well beyond the scope of immediate care given to her son. We now expect to hear the successful treatment the immediate medical staff gave.  



Not sure how this post turned into an Oscars acceptance speech..


The subject reveals that she is making a speech for actors.  In following our belief in her words, we do not contradict her. 



But @biggsjasonThank god for you! Thank god, thank god, thank god.

Inclusion of deity
Lower case (downgrade) 
repetition 3 x (sensitivity increased) 

Deity is identified in a statement and is sometimes  associated with guilt. If Deity, in any form, is called upon as a witness, it is associated with deception. 

Here, the "quality" of its use is seen in the lower case, repetition but mostly in that God is not thanked for the victim; 
instead it is for the husband. 
It has been a traumatic week but Sid is home now taking things slowly and recovering nicely.


"It has been a traumatic week" is a positive LD towards the subject. We expect empathy for the victim to be articulated.  It is not here. It was "traumatic week", by default, for the subject. This is self focused, consistent with known statements found within child abuse and congruent with an actress award speech above.



 He is also eating a lot of chocolate dipped ice cream cones and plans to try cherry dipped soon.

This is the linguistic display of how good of a mother she is; giving detail of the treats he is eating.  The "good mother" principle is often an indicator to the contrary; it may be an indicator of a form of neglect and/or abuse. 


My heart goes out to all parents who have or will ever find themselves in this kind of position. You are not alone...


The subject articulates the need for "others", as a refusal to be alone with what she did.  This is a form of mitigating or reducing guilt by "crowd sourcing."

Guilt does not bear up well alone. This is often personality driven, from childhood with, "But mom, everyone was doing it!" as an excuse.  When followed with an attempt to indict the teacher with injustice, the parents' reaction can correct or cement this technique of irresponsibility. 

Analysis Conclusion

There are enough red flags to warrant an investigation. 

The analyst should be concerned that the subject has pre-empted an investigation by appealing to the public for sympathy. 

There is a subtle shift of responsibility by the subject, towards the victim. 

She does not show empathy towards the victim, but towards "all parents" as well as seeking to curry favor with a larger audience, including those who clean bathrooms.  

This is consistent with guilt.

Investigators will want to know more, including risk factors such as substance abuse.  

for training, see Hyatt Analysis Services 

52 comments:

LuciaD said...

She certainly is more sorry for herself than for her son. Similar to other cases of child abuse, the incident is seen by the subject more as something that happened to her, rather than as something that happened to her son. She attempts to sound humble, thanking the "brave" women who clean the bathrooms (kind of bizarre in the context of her son having a serious injury). But then jumps to grandiosity and focus on self of making an awards acceptance speech. There is much revealed about the subject in that statement. Thanks Peter, for an interesting analysis.

Mike Dammann said...

"You are not alone..."
She seeks a protective community. She knows there is strength in numbers and it is her way of reaching out to others who may have questionable cases as hers. It's a final call for support knowing she may face consequences. She doesn't want to fight this alone and is afraid of standing alone against what may wind up coming to light.

Anonymous said...

If you believe in God and want to thank him, you know to use upper case for his name.

The cafeteria and bathroom comments come across to me as pointing out that she wasn’t too inconvenienced having to use a public bathroom and eat cafeteria food. No worries, her time at the hospital was acceptable thanks to those workers making her stay better.

Randie said...

She doesn't list her son's name at the beginning, meaning she has a poor relationship with their son.

She used the word BUT (refuting all that she just said.

She also gives her son adult traits such as "taking things slowly" and "plans on having".

Peter didn't you say before that if the words "bathroom" are present it means something?

Elsa K8m said...

Yes you are right. Bathroom, cleaning, it's like bathroom and brushing the teeth for example. Red flag. Well seen!

Anonymous said...

"(...) brave women that keep the visitor‘s bathrooms clean."

I agree -> this sentence is bizarre. Is she telling herself "woman keep clean"? As in "stop using drugs" (-> it happened on a Saturday night and on Instagram she poses in a t-shirt with the text "Legalize weed (...)"). What does the “visitor's bathroom” have to do with the accident? Did it happen in the bathroom (or did she visit the bathroom to take drugs)?

Also: use of the words "landing", "dipping", "dipping" -> what kind of wild game was going on? "Dipping" means a.o. "going head first", "diving", "bathing", "plunging", "nose-diving", “dropping,”. Did she try to make her son dive in the bathroom or something? See also the phrase plans to try cherry dipped.

"Sid is home now taking things slowly" -> subtle victim blaming by implying that he normally doesn’t take things slowly enough?

“in this kind of position” -> is she alluding to an actual position? On social media it is suggested that the accident may have happened while she took a photo for Instagram. Also, why does she add “kind of”. Does she mean her “position” isn’t quite how she paints it (e.g.: she’s not telling the whole story)?

“Not sure (…) acceptance speech” -> is she hesitant to accept full responsibility for what happened and/or speak out about what actually happened?

Autumn

Anonymous said...

“(…) and brave women that keep the visitor‘s bathrooms clean.”

Is she anticipating an investigation by the “brave men and women” of the police and is she trying to get in their good graces by publicly praising another category of “ordinary folks” (from the viewpoint of an actress)?

Autumn

Hey Jude said...

Wasn’t Sid braver or at least as brave as the women who cleaned the bathroom? Presumably by ‘Sid’ she means her son. No shout-out for Sid, though he was in ICU.

Why does she give more words/attention to the women who keep the visitor’s bathroom clean than to all the medical staff combined? It sounds as if her personal comfort was of more concern to her than her son’s comfort and medical treatment. She details the role of women who keep the visitors bathroom clean, meanwhile we only learn through deduction that her son is named Sid, and that he must be at least of an age to have a liking for chocolate chip ice-cream.

In what way does she consider herself to be giving an Oscar-worthy performance in relation to the hospital staff? Well, she said it.

She doesn’t say how she came to drop her son, or that she feels guilty, terrible, etc, which, as she caused the fracture, would be expected?.

Why does Sid need to be recovering ‘nicely’ - rather than say, just ‘recovering’, or ‘recovering well’?





Anonymous said...

Autumn

I feel like your comments (that was you?) about the bathroom are spot on, except that I don't know why "cherry dip" is giving you the trouble it is. If, instead, the kid was eating "fun dip" or "french onion dip" would that still have the same connotation?

If the kid is enjoying ice cream, and the treat he is enjoying has a name, how is using that name a "word choice"?

Leigh said...

[On Saturday evening, I dropped my son on his head causing him to fracture his skull and landing him in the ICU.]

Jenny Mollen’s statement starts out strong. She uses “I”, the past tense “dropped”, then “my son”, showing ownership and defining their relationship. However, she does not give a formal introduction with his name. Her failure to use his given name is a form of distancing. I don’t hear any concern in her statement about how [my son] felt or what he went through due to his head injury. I don’t hear any punishing language for her actions which caused his skull fracture. As a mom, it would be expected to express self-reproach and guilt for perceived carelessness in directly causing this life-threatening injury-even if it were accidental. Sadness and guilt should be evident in her words. Considering this statement was written in close time proximity to her child’s injury, the despair for what “could have happened” should be leaping off the page. I do not see this in her writing.
It is also unusual that she does not offer the circumstances of how this happened. The burden of guilt would be such that some relief would be sought in explaining what led up to the skull fracture. [I tripped on the stairs or slipped on the floor]...that would be expected. Instead, the reader is dropped just as abruptly as her son apparently was.

[causing him to fracture his skull…] Though her statement starts out strong,
It suddenly sounds passive with a subtle hint of victim blaming. In her language, her son fractured his own skull. How dare he! She is not taking true responsibility for her actions or his injury. This may explain the lack of self-reproach and guilt in her statement. It’s not her fault because HE fractured his own skull. This is unexpected from a mother.

[I am forever grateful to Lenox hill downtown and @nyphospital for their immediate response and aid.]
It’s not unusual for a parent to thank staff for saving their child’s life. I am gathering that her son’s skull fracture was severe enough to warrant a transfer to a higher level of pediatric ICU [Lenox hill downtown and @nyphospital]. I do find it unusual that Jenny Mollen is thanking emergency room staff for responding immediately and providing aid. This is what emergency rooms do. It’s like thanking a bird for flying. Has she had negative experiences previously with emergency staff not reacting [immediately and providing aid]? Has she brought her son into an emergency room for an injury and experienced suspicion of child abuse?

[Thank you to all of the nurses, neurologists, pediatricians, residents, cafeteria staff and brave women that keep the visitor‘s bathrooms clean.]
I do not find it unusual that she is thanking hospital staff. Though it is meant to ingratiate and if there was suspicion or allegations of child abuse, this would serve to align herself with the [good guys]. It is worth mentioning that nurses report the majority of suspected child abuse in a hospital setting as they are in close and frequent contact with patients. She may have mentioned nurses first for a reason.

[(__)Not sure how this post turned into an Oscars acceptance speech... But…]

She is unwilling to completely own what she is saying due to her dropped pronoun at the beginning of this sentence. She then refutes [but] what she was unwilling to completely own. This is self-congratulatory and self-centered speech which is unexpected given the circumstances of her narrative. Is this statement an Oscar-worthy performance?

Leigh

Leigh said...

(con't)

[@biggsjasonThank god for you! Thank god, thank god, thank god.]

Here is another inadequate social introduction. She takes no ownership, gives no relationship status, or even his proper name. This is distancing language yet she is thanking him very publicly and attributing deity to him. This may mean that he is upset and blames her for what happened. He may have accused her of abusing their son. She publicly ascribes deity to him four times. This relationship is in trouble.

[It has been a traumatic week but Sid is home now taking things slowly and recovering nicely. He is also eating a lot of chocolate dipped ice cream cones and plans to try cherry dipped soon.]
She is speaking in close time proximity to the injury of her son. It is unexpected that she doesn’t bring this experience closer by using [this] instead of [it], which implies distance and neutrality. She speaks to the trauma of the week, then refutes her statement [but] and again inadequately introduces her son. The reader is left to assume that Sid is her son, though since she didn’t say that, we cannot say it for her. I would expect to hear ownership and perhaps a pet name as she realizes how precious her son is and how quickly he could be gone. She speaks of Sid as if he is her ward that she is charge of...similar to a babysitter or someone familiar yet not very close to him. She has not expressed how it feels to cause a severe injury in her child. She speaks of it as if it were a car wreck that she took her car to a mechanic to get fixed.
[My heart goes out to all parents who have or will ever find themselves in this kind of position. You are not alone…]
Does her heart go out to her son? This statement serves to assuage her guilt. She is not alone or at least hopes she isn’t. Her statement implies that she is [in this kind of position]. She is under scrutiny and perhaps formal investigation from Child Protective Services. All of the falsely accused can come rest in the shade of her tree. [ You are not alone…] She is taking care of Sid’s basic needs (food) yet there is blame for the position he put her in. Sid remains at risk in her care.

Leigh

Leigh said...

[landing him in the ICU.]

This is unexpected language for a mother to use when writing about how her son came to need treatment for a skull fracture in an ICU. At the innocuous end, it sounds flippant. Is she speaking to experience? What “lands”? Airplanes land after flying. Was her son “airborne” before he fell? Did she throw or toss him, causing him to fly through the air and subsequently “land” on his head?

Leigh

frommindtomatter said...

Her words come across very bluntly as there is no context given for how it happened. After reading the first sentence you are expecting the next one to elaborate on how the first statement came to be. It’s like one of those movies where they show you the end first and then the film goes back in time and works up to that point, except they don’t bother doing the latter. Instead it’s a short film that leaves the audience trying to fathom out what message the director was trying to get across. I mean it had only just started and next thing the credits were rolling naming the cast and crew of the production. They covered everyone but Mary in hair and make-up, she never got a mention poor girl. I`ll never get used to this modern cinema :)

I thought as others that “landing” was an interesting choice of words to use. It fascinates me how the mind can automatically select such words to connect things together that way. I can’t add anything to what people have already said but I enjoyed reading all the great analysis.

It is interesting that her “heart goes out to all parents who have or [will ever] find themselves in this [kind] of position”. How can your heart go out to someone who has yet to experience it? She is making a pre-emptive strike there, “Hey if you ever fall down in the future just know my heart is bleeding in anticipation for you”.

The truth as always lies on the cutting room floor.

Adrian.

Mike Dammann said...

"In what way does she consider herself to be giving an Oscar-worthy performance in relation to the hospital staff? Well, she said it."
Strong point. In addition: Her life looks like a reality show without being on one. Her priorities show even in a statement which should be about Sid and only Sid (by name).
Everything points towards her being unsatisfied with her lack of success in acting. Mentioning "Oscar acceptance speech" in her statement is just one aspect of her telling us what she wants in life, but doesn't seem to reach. In addition, a Twitter account now for Sid was created 2 years before Sid was born. She seems to work according to strategy which likely prioritizes, if not obsesses, in creating fame for her children which she herself hasn't managed to achieve.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

The one thing she doesn't address at all in her speech- How does one drop their child (much less one that age) on their head?

That alone is one oversized red flag, flapping broadly in the breeze.

Me said...

Dropping a small child on his head would not fracture his skull. It would take a lot more than that.

Peter, Could the word “causing” follow the same SCAN principles as the word “because”?

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous (April 18, 2019 at 3:55 PM): what stood out to me is not the word “dipped” in itself but the fact that she uses it twice in this relatively short message. She doesn’t write: he’s sleeping a lot, he’s watching tv, we’re reading him stories, etc. No, it’s specifically ice cream and specifically chocolate “dipped” and cherry “dipped”. Maybe there's nothing to it but I thought: maybe she’s leaking a detail of how it happened. Just like “landing him in the ICU.” may imply that she threw or tossed him. I find the sentence “and plans to try cherry dipped soon” strange. Not so much because of the word “cherry” but because of the word “plan”. Does a child plan to try a certain ice cream soon? Or is it rather the mother who plans to give him cherry dipped soon? If so, why do we need to know? It made me wonder: was the dropping (“dipping”) of Sid more orchestrated (“plan to try”) than she’s telling us (e.g. game gone wrong)?

By the way: the words “cherry dipped” made me think of Jussie Smollett. He also mentioned cherry and ice cream: “I don’t need some MAGA hat as the cherry on top of some racist sundae.”

Autumn

Willow said...

What Jenny M. leaves unsaid seems strange. The most expected she doesn't say:
How the little boy is doing and what are the prospects of his recovery. She could have said this with a few words.
What J. says instead leaves room for uncertainty.
She gives information on her son, a little boy that has had a an accidental head tauma, a skull skull fracture. She high-alerts the audience.
What she offers doesn't suffice to explain what she started with.

Martina said...

The explanation of how the injury occured is glaringly missing. "I had my coffee in one hand and I tried to pick him up, and he slipped, and I feel so stupid and guilty. I know I should not have done that." Something like that. Why no explanation? Why in mid-story she suddenly refers to her writing as an Oscar acceptance speech? Let's no forget that's an award for acting. Is she acting? Who is her audience? Who is applauding?
The women cleaning the bathrooms is just bizzare. If I'm in hospital with my son, I really don't care if the bathrooms are clean or who cleans them. BTW, men are cleaners too. She is ingratiating with EVERYONE in the hospital, involved in care or not, yep just went back to check, she thanks the cafeteria staff too.
But in a way it's true, it does sound a little bit like an acceptance speech, thanking everyone including your high-school math teacher... she's not the smartest, I think.
She is not attuned to her son, ice-cream references are adult expressions, not how a child acts or behaves. A small child does not contemplate trying cherry ice-cream, or is taking things slowly. Maybe there was insufficient bonding, maybe post-partum depression.

Martina said...

My heart goes out to all parents who have or will ever find themselves in this kind of position.

But there is no position, it is a situation:
My heart goes out to all parents who have or will ever find themselves in this kind of situation.

Position is a curious choice. There could be an accusation that needs to be defended from "a position". Or a reference to a body position? Again, how did the accident happen? Was there a certain position involved?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Ok, I have to say in all fairness that I've been in the ER and in ICU a lot in the last 5 years w/ elderly neighbors and family members, and I have really appreciated the uncommonly nice cafeteria worker who helped me find my way around, the custodians when the bathrooms were clean, and everybody in between who extended some kindness and compassion in a crisis moment.

But the purpose of her speech and her public gratitude seems more designed to deflect questions and preempt any negative publicity. It seems packaged as "an encouraging word" ("my heart goes out to any parents who have or ever will find themselves in this kind of position. You are not alone..."). Exactly how many parents drop their 5-yr-old on their head? How does that happen? Why doesn't she begin with how she dropped her 5-yr-old on his head, if that's where the story actually begins? She seems to be trying to persuade her intended audience that she's such a thoughtful, compassionate, caring person. I would expect to hear something like, "I was carrying him and he fell and hit his head."- very different from "I dropped him on his head..". Was she carrying him around upside down or holding him upside down for some reason? Maybe it's just me, but the tone of her Instagram post seems "breezy" at best...like dropping your child on his head and fracturing his skull is no big deal and pretty common.

Chris said...

Let’s start off by saying I dislike her and her statement as much as everyone else. Question though, is it possible that she’s giddy at having her son home and high on marijuana? Could those account for the, well frankly, the giddy and high tone of the statement? I’ve seen many, many religious people not capitalize the name of the Creator. Is it possible that this is a giddy, high, uneducated, grandiose, self centered woman who accidentally dropped her kid in his head? Wait—answered my own question. Of course it’s possible, but an investigation is indicated.

New England Water Blog said...

OT
Not much SA available from this article beyond this great quote
“You’re arresting me?” Crampton Brophy asked police while she was being detained, court records allege. “You must think I murdered my husband."

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/04/oregon-romance-novelist-charged-with-killing-husband-had-10-ways-to-cover-up-a-murder-bookmarked-on-itunes-records-allege.html

Maddie said...

Yes. All the superfluous thank yous are very strange indeed. She’s making light of a very serious thing. Nothing in there indicating true concern for her son. My physician friend stepped two steps to get a shampoo bottle and his 15 month old toppled over the side of the tub and hit his head sustaining a skull fracture. Years later he still agonizes blaming himself. Never jokes about it. Worried his son will develop headaches. Opposite of this.

Maddie said...

Exactly. No concern for the kid at all. None.

Maddie said...

Yes!!! The baby has to have her formula. This kid doesn’t take things slowly. Victim blaming.

Maddie said...

Brave stood out to me as well. Why brave?

Maddie said...

Read my above comment about a friend who can never forgive himself for his son’s skull fracture even years later when the boy is completely recovered.

Maddie said...

All words are a choice.

Maddie said...

I’ve been practicing medicine for 22 years. It can result in a fracture. But if the injury is severe you have to consider other possible factors.

John said...

OT:

Missing Crystal Lake boy Andrew 'AJ' Freund: Boy, 5, did not leave home on foot, police say

CRYSTAL LAKE, Ill. (WLS) -- A 5-year-old Crystal Lake boy last seen on Wednesday night remains missing, and police said Friday that they are focusing their investigation on the boy's home.

On Thursday, police went in and around 5-year-old Andrew "AJ" Freund's home in Crystal Lake on Dole Avenue. The FBI also joined the search.

AJ was last seen around 9 p.m. Wednesday when his parents told police he went to bed. By Thursday morning, police said he was missing.

AJ has short, blonde hair and is approximately three-foot-five, weighing 70 pounds. He was last seen wearing a blue Mario sweatshirt and black sweatpants.

Law enforcement from several agencies searched the neighborhood Thursday with canines. FBI agents were seen leaving with what appeared to be items from the residence. Teams on Crystal Lake used sonar equipment in an attempt to locate the boy.

Friday, police said canine units only picked up AJ's scent within the residence, indicating Andrew had not walked away on foot. Police said there is no indication that an abduction took place.

Police have called Freund's home a crime scene. The home sits quiet, empty and in disrepair with several windows missing. Shortly before 5 p.m. a large police presence was once again seen in and around the home, though authorities didn't say why so many officers were there.

Andrew Freund, Sr., the boy's father, was approached by detectives when he left the home for the first time Friday. Detectives asked him to come with them right then. Freund responded, "I need to get a phone. Then I'm gonna come back."

Freund was seen going in and out the front door throughout the day and spoke briefly with reporters after leaving through a side door.

"We're just extremely worried," he said. "If anybody knows anything about where Andrew Jr. is please, please, contact the Crystal Lake Police Department. Let's get him home."

"AJ, please come home," Freund added before he walked away from cameras. "We love you very much. You're not in any trouble, we're just worried to death. Please,
please come home."

I don't like the word "death" cropping up in any form so early in an investigation of this ilk especially from a parent / guardian.

AJ's mother, Joanne Cunningham, appeared outside the home with her attorney George Kililis Friday afternoon for a brief press conference. Cunningham did not speak, but Kililis asserted her innocence and said she was not involved in AJ's disappearance. He said evidence of the search in the house was distressing for her, so she would be staying with a friend for a couple days

Kililis said Cunningham cooperated fully with police Thursday following the initial report of her son's disappearance until he got the impression she was considered a suspect, at which time he said he advised her to exercise her right to remain silent.

Cunningham left the home with her attorney and a plastic bag that appeared to be filled with items including photos of her missing son.

Kililis said he was not representing Freund's father.

When asked, Crystal Lake police would not say if the boy's parents are considered suspects in the case, but did say based off information they've received investigators have now centered their attention on his home.

More:

https://abc7chicago.com/missing-crystal-lake-boy-5-did-not-leave-home-on-foot-police-say/5259502/

Anonymous said...

"worried to death" Indeed.

Anonymous said...

Cherry Dip can refer to a sex act involving a virgin. It also refers to a sexual act in which a man gives a woman a pink sock, then she puts it in his mouth.

Anonymous said...

She stated she dropped her son on her head. She didn't state that she accidentally dropped him on his head. She purposely dropped her son on his head?

Amanda said...

Causing HIM to fracture his skull-like he has any ownership? Landing him in ICU is a position like a body position...it’s tension. It’s sensitive to her. Of course he had to go to the hospital you just said his skull was fractured. He didn’t land in the ICU from the sky she was forced to take him to the hospital and she’s saying that in irritation? He didn’t land on his head when she dropped him he landed hisself in the ICU. What person wouldn’t call 911 or rush a child to the hospital. She needed to say he landed hisself in ICU. Why?

Mike Dammann said...

Chris, have you taken a look at her Instagram?
Here is one example:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsB7Dq_HWU7/?fbclid=IwAR0p61T7ISFs8-PqcxiKVzGcq5ItAk4XPW2zu1Ngpn1StGTYkceMZi5ZG8w
Here is another one:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bbe4aORnnG1/?fbclid=IwAR1vYidQjQ1Te6AlDEiVeQOE6NSxMguQ50FkBRzahbLlFiCbjEfS3tFT09A

Hey Jude said...

OT

Missing five year old, Andrew Freund Jr

Father’s 911 call:

https://youtu.be/1UWUbl7jGUk

Me said...

Jude—the Dad’s guilty & I get a pedo vibe from his voice.
Also linguistically, he mentions “LOCAL park” (why the extra word “LOCAL”? How could his son have wandered to a nonlocal park?) Also the fact he says “local” indicates he must also frequent “nonlocal” parks to “look around”.
He mentions “looked around LOCAL PARK” “GIVE HIM TREATS” “DOCTORS APPOINTMENT (before 8 am?!). He avoids saying child’s name to the operator.
He also pulls a Mark Redwine when he “pops in to say hello) to a 5 year old who is sleeping” just like with Dylan (same thing—Dylan was supposedly sleeping (but was actially not there) when Mark “peeks his head in to say “hey buddy”.

He begins call with “We woke up...”
Alibi building along with he says he had a doc apt but doesnt say he went but certainly implies it.

GUILTY!

Anonymous said...

This is an older case. I am interested in your analysis on Brock Turner's police
statement.https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2854904/Defendantstatement.pdf

frommindtomatter said...

OT Andrew Freund

I did a transcript of 911 call for those interested. PART 1.

P: 911 what’s the address of your emergency?

F: (Gives address twice in cooperation with operator.)

P: OK tell me exactly what happened?

F: err.. We err..,we have a missing child. Umm.., woke up this morning and err.., he wasn’t, he wasn’t.. (Interrupted by operator).

P: How old is this child?

F: We have missing child.

P: yeah how old is he?

F: He`s five.

P: What was he last seen wearing?

F: err, a Mario like blue long sleeved sweatshirt and umm black sweatpants.

P: And is he a male white?

F: Yes.

P: And when was the last time you seen him?

F: Err, last night, probably 9:30…., err when he went to bed.

P: Are you the father?

F: Yes

P: Do you know where he might have went?

F: No err, we`ve canvassed the neighbourhood then went to local park. Erm, the local gas station down here where we sometimes take him to buy treats. Err, I spoke with the assistant principal over there at the school where the park is and they, they haven’t seen err, him or any other child I, I have no idea where he would be.
P: OK so you put him to bed last night so he was in his pyjamas and then, and when you went to get him for school he wasn’t there and then you looked around for a bit.

F: yeah.

frommindtomatter said...

PART 2

P: What time was he supposed to be at school?

F: Well he doesn’t go to school, but I had a doctor’s appointment this morning and when I got back from the doctor’s appointment err, and I checked in on him to say good morning and he wasn’t there so that would have been…

P: What time was that?

F: about between 8:15, 8:30.

P: And have you checked everywhere like under tables and closets ?

F: We checked closets, the basement, the garage, everywhere.

P: What’s the child’s name?

F: Andrew, last name Freund, we call him AJ.

P: (Surname spelling confirmed) and what’s the middle?

F: Thomas.

P: Date of birth?

Redacted

P: Is the mom at the residence as well?

F: Yes.

P: And what’s your name sir?

F: err, Andrew senior.

P: OK, Do you have any pets in the house?

F: Yes.

P: are any missing as well or no?

F: No.

P: Was any of the doors open?

F: No, I mean no outside doors or anything like that.

P: No doors or windows?

F: No.

P: An officer is calling on your door now.

F: yeah ok I see him.

P: And just let me know, but you checked the house right?

F: Yeah, yeah, yeah.., yeah we`ve been through the house like completely, yeah.
P: let me know when the officer is at your door.

F: He`s here right now.

P: OK I`ll let you go.

F: OK thank you.

Adrian.


Anonymous said...

Other:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/uselection/source-body-of-missing-boy-aj-freund-found-in-rural-area-miles-from-his-home/ar-BBWfmq3?ocid=spartandhp

Anonymous said...

P: OK tell me exactly what happened?

F: err.. We err..,we have a missing child. Umm.., woke up this morning and err.., he wasn’t, he wasn’t.. (Interrupted by operator).

-Waves red flags-

-David

frommindtomatter said...

“I, I have no idea where he [would] be.”

Can we accept the use of the word “would” in the fathers statement?

The only meaning of “would” that I could apply in the context it is used here is to mean “a hypothetical situation”.

It would be nice if I won the lottery, I would have posted the letter, but…

I have seen it used when someone says they can’t recall specific events or what they did on a specific day which would then lead them to say:

“I [would] have gone to work at 8:30am.” – Instead of I “went” to work.

As they are not sure and /or won’t commit to their actions they use would to give a hypothetical situation.

So Andrews father tells us he has no idea where Andrew hypothetically is. This seems a strange choice of word to me as I would have expected he would use the word “could” instead. The word could suggests “a possibility” by definition. So the father would have then said that he has no idea where William could possibly be.

The statements look much more noticeable if read as below.

I have no idea where he hypothetically would be.

I have no idea where he possibly could be.

Adrian.

Anonymous said...

The nearly week-long search for missing Andrew “AJ” Freund ended this afternoon with the discovery of a body believed to be the 5-year-old wrapped in plastic in a shallow grave in a rural area of Woodstock, IL.

His parents, JoAnn Cunningham and Andrew Freund, have each been charged with 5 counts of first-degree murder.

#AJFreund #Recovered #RIP #CrystalLake #Woodstock #AndrewFreund #JoAnnCunningham #Murder #DCFS #MissingPiecesNetwork

https://www.facebook.com/MissingPiecesNetwork/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARBng9LEFStAbWjntkzqIV7t1uJFv9FmQ7H2SOW6HFIYU_5gU9arRb0kC572Nrsvar6hHje-93NjcTyX&hc_ref=ARTXubdY1fTdWLMILy5D-Hrpyj9BXuHgtq3AUFQO_rfn4YMZZ5YQYYeRFTrIuCM_B8U&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARD1UapXvB1VWO_CRquYr1RjET966qhw47RHbAR8pRbxlQQBhSLLs63n5ianjnKvvSPezZSaGNxLb9NRNXxRIIRi1MjkM0kSIkkB6moxzQM0PjxSbLv8IAFeci-QemJ3437ivkbvixX8Rz48baGbpPzJ77mgE2Qhyn3oHInZJDgmeGOCztuAVOAaOX__EODugXuIgFztwhDn3mG3F1QwomqXs5EuTvtdxuQqqv3ezD5_lEiZUTJZGBrExrlaUFuswxbzaKg8WGxntjNsKEenntaiE6UJZvo4qJ1jJS7p8_AJJahGgd16CRSqJJYcZzIuG_uEqHudtI0VYKvuqv4bp2sD42WzJV3FaWxMhG_74lqzzdXhpbwJtZL1U5w

-David

Me said...

Very sad.

I knew they had killed him from the father’s 911 call.
They couldnt even wrap him in a blanket...they wrapped him in plastic?! Sounds like they probably moved his body from wherever they had first hidden it.

Time for that poor boy’s father to go be Bubba’s bitch in prison!!!

John said...

OT:

'We didn't do it,' BerMax Caffé owners insist after police charge them with staging hate crime

"We didn't do it. We had no reason to do it," he said, speaking alongside his mother. "This is not good for our Jewish community, this is not good for us."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/bermax-caffe-owners-deny-charges-1.5110195

Proud of you said...

Thank you guys for solving so many crimes! You guys are the best!!!

Elsa Kim said...

Nice, Autumn!

Anonymous said...

ot

LISTEN: 911 call released of female officer after she shot and killed neighbor in upscale Dallas apartment building.

For the first time, the public has been given access to the 911 call a Texas officer placed after she fatally shot her upstairs neighbor in his own apartment last year.

Ex-Dallas police officer Amber Guyger, 30, is heard saying, “I thought it was my apartment,” 19 times in the 911 call obtained by WFAA. Guyger is also heard mentioning that she will lose her job and asking for a supervisor.

“I thought I was in my apartment and I shot a guy thinking he was, thinking it was my apartment,” Guyger says in the 5-minute-38-second call.

“Oh my God. I’m sorry.”

Late last year, a grand jury indicted Guyger, 30, on murder charges for the September 6 shooting that killed Botham Jean, 26. She reportedly told police she had finished a 15-hour shift when she parked her car on the fourth floor of her apartment building, instead of on the third floor where she lived.

Guyger reportedly said the door was slightly ajar when she placed the key with an electronic chip into the keyhole, causing the door to open further. Documents stated that she claimed she saw a “large silhouette” and gave it verbal commands before opening fire, wounding Jean in his torso. He ultimately died from his injuries.

In late October, The Dallas Morning News reported that the district attorney’s office rebuffed their requests for the 911 call Guyger placed on the night in question and Jean’s autopsy report. The autopsy report remains private despite this week’s release of the 911 call.

Guyger’s trial is scheduled to begin in September.

https://www.crimeonline.com/2019/04/30/listen-911-call-released-of-female-officer-after-she-shot-and-killed-neighbor-in-upscale-dallas-apartment-building/?fbclid=IwAR0AuFGc5hUysrQNpVWhTIEFCKSJHmXzbLNj8AwYXbiKbr2Tnex2FkIlN3s

-David

Hey Jude said...

She certainly has a need to persuade. Also, she began the call with a greeting (hi), said ‘sorry’, appealed to divinity, introduced herself as a cop, asked for help for herself rather than for the victim, was concerned about her job rather than the victim’s life, said she thought it was her apartment, and thought he was an intruder - yet apparently didn’t also have time to think or even see it was obviously not her apartment, (or that the door lock was on the opposite side to hers, and that Jean’s apartment had a semi-circular bright red doormat, while hers did not). It doesn’t sound as if she tried physically to help him or ask the operator what she should do, though she already would know how to help him.

——

I read at the time that the officer had complained about her upstairs neighbour playing loud music. Read just now that witnesses heard her demanding the door be opened before she shot the resident. She had plenty of time to work out it was not her apartment, if she somehow didn’t already know.

Anonymous said...

Guyger never once says: "I thought he was an intruder" in the 911 call. Maybe she doesn't say it because she didn't think it. Reportedly she had also made a noise complaint on the day of the killing. Maybe the noise felt like an intrusion to her. Maybe that's one of the reasons why she keeps repeating "I thought it was my apartment" (as in "keep your noise the h... out of my apartment"). I'm not buying the 15-hour shift excuse. Yes, it's a lot of hours but it doesn't make people so dazed that they don't recognize their own apartment/front door/doormat, etc. Normally people still have all their faculties after working that many hours on end (especially a person as young as Guyger). It’s not the same as being drunk. Also: wasn't there a less drastic solution than to shoot him to death? Wasn’t she, as a police officer, trained what to do in these types of situations (de-escalate, etc)? I find it weird how she keeps saying “I’m f….d”. She caused a man to die and she’s the one who’s f….d? She expresses worries about her own situation (e.g. losing her job) but not about the victim.

Autumn