Thursday, June 6, 2019

Maleah Murder: Derion Vence


hat tip John


During a jailhouse interview  with ABC13’s Chauncy Glover, a reported teary-eyed and emotional 27-year-old Derion Vence, currently in isolation at the Houston jail for his own protection, denied killing Maleah. Authorities found the child’s remains in Arkansas on May 31, over 300 miles away from the Houston apartment she lived in with Vence and her mother, Brittany Bowens.
“I ain’t no killer, bro. Chauncy, I loved Maleah so much. I did for her more than her own parents. I never had a biological daughter. I would never do anything to hurt her. That’s not me. Ask anyone who knows me, and they’ll tell you I’m not that type of dude and I was good with the kids.

Let's look at this statement more closely:

“I ain’t no killer, bro. Chauncy,


We begin with the presupposition of innocence. This is not "judicial innocence" of which we have based our criminal justice system upon. It is a de facto innocence. This is not a moral or ethical posture, but a means of discerning deception. 

With our presupposition that he "didn't do it", we are, therefore, in expectation that he will tell us us. 

There is a type of psychological "wall of truth" that is generally insurmountable (outside means of coercion such as torture, etc) in which a subject did not do it, cannot abide any acceptance of any possibility of having "done it", and is under a false accusation. 

Greater Context

The increase of intensity within the false accusation as well as the scope and the passage of time,  the greater will be the sensitivity of the response.  A good example can be found under "Kevin Fox", a father who investigators refused to listen to, and was falsely accused. 

The subject does not tell us he did not do it. We need him to tell us, 

"I did not kill Maleah" while openly and freely choosing his own words.  

We discount parroting language (poor interviewing skills make it less stressful for a liar), the word "never", the dropping of the pronoun "I", or an actual alteration of the allegation. 

When this is done, the denial is not reliable. 

Some analysts will classify an Unreliable Denial as "not reliable" as they await more information from the subject, while some will deem it "Unreliable" due to a stronger conclusion of guilt. 

We let the subject guide us in our conclusion.  At this point, the lack of denial is "not reliable."

“I ain’t no killer, bro. Chauncy,

Instead of saying, "I didn't kill Maleah", the subject focuses upon a label that appears to come from his own language.  He does not tell us what he did not do; but who he is not. This is a deep focus upon self, and, as it unfolds, will show personality driven.  

Notice he uses the interviewer's name, and a title with it. This is a form of the "Ingratiation Factor" in which the subject seeks to gain an ally or friend with the interviewer.  Often, police will use the Ingratiation Factor appropriately bonding with a subject to obtain an admission or confession. Even without formal training, many are proficient at this from experience alone. 

The statement should be seen as "psychologically strong"; that is, there is the subject's psychological presence in this statement. 

We should believe him. 

This is very important in understanding him.  

In his verbalized perception of reality, he is not a "killer."

Therefore, we need to ask:

In his verbalized perception of reality, who is he?

We do not have to wait long for him to tell us. 


 I loved Maleah so much. 


He is someone who loved Maleah "so much."

This leads us to ask, "how much did you love Maleah?"

He answers for us, in one sense, yet we consider his answer on another level: absent a reliable denial. 

These must be taken together and in context. 

Believe the subject's words and let him speak for himself. 



I did for her more than her own parents. 


He doesn't say he didn't kill her, but that he did more for her than her own parents.

He "aint no killer" (plus, IF, or "like me, please..." which is a signal of a manipulative personality); he is one who loved the victim so much that he did more for the victim than her own parents.

He elevates himself above the parents. 

Since they are the "parents", he adds the comparison:

"her own parents." 

He denigrates them by comparison. 

He is not done, yet, elevating himself while not denying killing her. 

He ain't no killer. 

He did things for Maleah, in "love" and more than what her parents did, in spite of a personal handicap: 


I never had a biological daughter. 


He wants his actions to be seen as morally superior. 

He sits in jail accused of murdering Maleah, and he is promoting himself as not a killer, but one who "loved" the victim more than the victim's own parents (comparison) and from the position of unnatural ("never had a biological daughter") employing "biological" in his statement.

We should consider the possible connection of this language of demarcation in the context of sexual abuse. 

He does not tell us he treated her like a biological daughter, but what he, himself, never had. 

He was deprived of such and he loved her more than her own parents. 

Listen to him. 



I would never do anything to hurt her. 


Here is an example of what makes an unreliable denial able to guide us to a conclusion. 

He avoids the psychological commitment of "I did not..." in his sentence, but only "would never", which:

a. is future/conditional
b. expanse of time with "never."

This is to avoid, in his mind, going back to the specific allegation of a specific event, that took place on a specific date and time, and had a specific outcome. 

It is, psychologically, to "muddy the waters" and reduce the intensity of guilt by increasing vagueness of time. 

Next, note the child is not "hurt"; 

she is dead. 

What "love" he showed, was, therefore, in his verbalized perception of reality, to keep her from being "hurt."

This is very likely a reference to her "own" parents. 

He did what was "best interest" for the victim.  

He then disassociates from the action:


That’s not me. 

This is a type of "gnosticism" where one mitigates guilt by having a strong opinion of self, and separating the actor of guilt from this strong opinion. 

It is the proverbial "good person inside of me" as a means of justification through separation. 

The weakness of this assertion calls for others to buttress or strengthen it: 


Ask anyone who knows me, and they’ll tell you I’m not that type of dude and I was good with the kids.

He cannot stand upon his own assertion of "who" he is---remember how he started, "I ain't no killer"...he needs others to step in for him. 

Analysis Conclusion:

Deception Indicated.

The subject is incapable of a Reliable Denial, and strengthens this conclusion by ingratiation, disassociation and a claim of moral high ground. 

The subject is using what he did as her best interest very likely to cover what he did for her.

This is the report which affirms his words.  Note "nothing bad" and that she did not suffer. 

His claim to have "loved" her is likely to save her from some form of suffering or neglect from her "own" parents. 

The "moral supremacy" argument may end up proving to be a cloak over sexual abuse and/or a form of revenge upon Maleah's mother. 

The subject's empathy lies with himself. 





When questioned about what happened to the little girl, Vence reportedly said he wasn’t comfortable talking about that without his lawyer present, but claimed “nothing bad” happened to Maleah and that she didn’t suffer. With his need to portray himself as superior to the parents, I expect he will blame them for causing him to have to "save" her from them.  
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39 comments:

Mike Dammann said...

"I loved Maleah so much"
again, the unnecessary "so much".
Love is conditional and comparable to him. He adds a level to it which isn't required when there is real love. This often indicates a need to convince that there was love when in reality there was none.

John said...

I did for her more than her own parents.

What was his upbringing like?
Did his parents neglect him?
Did he have a sister? Or lose a sister?
Is he thinking of his own parents when he says this?
Did he lose a daughter to another partner?

Mike Dammann said...

He didn't say "I would never hurt her", but "I would never do anything to hurt her."
He is likely going to wind up using a defense claiming that the death of the child was accidental. Whatever he would do to the child wouldn't be done out of intentions to hurt her. In his own perception, whatever he did to her wasn't a bad thing. Her dying off it was "not him". E.g.: "That’s not me."
He doesn't want to be held accountable for his actions, but expects mercy based on his own perception that he is "not that type of dude". He compares himself to "that" dude, the unnamed phantom. He compares himself out of fear of focus on self. "I did for her more than her own parents." shows a lack of feeling responsibility of own actions and a life of looking at others "doing badly" in order to excuse own behavior without the need to feel guilt or remorse.

Mike Dammann said...

And of course, he is not actually denying the intent to hurt her or he would have stated such with something expected like "I didn't do anything to hurt her". He is right. He wouldn't. He cannot hurt her again.

LuciaD said...

I’ll bet he loved her to death. Seems a phrase many guilty people use.

Tania Cadogan said...

THE grisly remains of a four-year-old girl have been found stuffed inside a bin bag shredded by lawnmowers one month after she was first reported missing.

A medical examiner confirmed the mutilated body found in nearly a highway in Arkansas on Friday is Maleah Davis.

It is still unclear exactly how she died, but Tim Miller, of the search group EquuSearch said the cause of death may be impossible to determine as her body was run over by lawnmowers.

He told KHOU 11: "It was a gruesome sight. It was a terrible sight to see. It took hours gathering up body parts and evidence.

"They’re doing an autopsy to determine the cause of death. I think it’s going to be impossible."

The girl’s stepfather Derion Vence, 27, was arrested in connection with the find and he has reportedly claimed the death was an accident.

He is currently in jail in Houston, Texas facing a charge of evidence tampering after he allegedly told where to find Maleah’s body, which was on the side of the Arkansas road.

Maleah was reported missing on May 4 after Vence told police his one-year-old son and the girl were abducted by three Hispanic men in their 30s who were driving a blue pickup truck.

ABC 13 reports that Vence and his son were then said to have been dropped off in the Sugar Land area of Houston, but the abductors drove off with Maleah still in the car.

The three man allegedly got out of their 2010 blue Chevrolet crew cab pickup truck and assaulted Vence when he was pulled over on the highway.

Vence was reportedly unconscious for almost 24 hours after he was attacked.

In an earlier press conference, police said Vence was on his way to pick up Maleah's mother from the airport when he was forced to pull over because his car was making strange noises.

Detective Mark Holbrook said at the time: "He hears a popping noise like he has a flat tire."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9221772/mystery-as-body-of-missing-maleah-davis-found/

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Quick question: Is "I did more for her than her own parents." an attempt to bolster his image because he knows what he did is unacceptable? Is it sort of an "I couldn't possibly have killed her because I did so much more for her than her own parents."- without actually saying that because he knows it's not true?

It's interesting that he latches onto Maleah's parents' behavior in context with murder/killer, when her parents aren't the ones who are jailed in connection with her disappearance, and aren't the ones pushing a story about a random attack.

I wonder what his definition of a killer is...clearly he has something specific in mind that he's comparing himself to with "I ain't no killer,...".

"Ask anyone who knows me, and they'll tell you I'm not that type of dude and I was good with the kids."

What type of dude is that type to Vence? It's a little alarming to me that he verbally ties that he's not " that type of dude" to "I was good with the kids." in the same sentence. It feels like he's protesting too much-working a little too hard to deny hurting Maleah when she's well beyond the stage of just being hurt.

Personal Bias Alert: I'm a little putt off by the "Ask anyone who knows me..." and the "I was good with the kids." because I know quite a few people who were secretly abused by their parent/step-parent and no one outside the immediate family had a clue and the parent/step-parent was a pillar of the community/highly respected teacher/pastor/on the Church Board. Quite a few people with a reputation for being good with kids are behind bars for child abuse, rape, molestation, and murder.

Maddie said...

Yes. Sexual abuse.

Maddie said...

Three. The favorite number of liars.

Maddie said...

Sandusky.

Mike Dammann said...

"The girl’s stepfather Derion Vence, 27, was arrested in connection with the find and he has reportedly claimed the death was an accident."

Not surprised about the accident part.

Mike Dammann said...

Foolsfeedonfolly said...
Quick question: Is "I did more for her than her own parents." an attempt to bolster his image because he knows what he did is unacceptable? Is it sort of an "I couldn't possibly have killed her because I did so much more for her than her own parents."- without actually saying that because he knows it's not true?

It's part of the justification process. "Her parents were terrible, so me adding to the abuse is not a big deal."

Maddie said...

I agree. I think he probably tolerated her. Until he didn’t. Poor baby.

Maddie said...

Of course he did. In REAL accidents people call the police.

Hey Jude said...

“I did for her” more than her own parents. He doesn’t say “I did more for her”, rather “I did for her”.

Do for

(preposition)
1. (Law) (tr) to convict of a crime or offence: they did him for manslaughter.
2. (intr) to cause the ruin, death, or defeat of: the last punch did for him.
3. (intr) to do housework for
4. do well for oneself to thrive or succeed

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/do+for


“Dude” - positive linguistic disposition?


dude noun
\ ˈdüd
How to pronounce dude (audio)
also ˈdyüd\
Definition of dude (Entry 1 of 2)
1
: a man extremely fastidious in dress and manner : DANDY
2
: a city dweller unfamiliar with life on the range (see RANGE entry 1 sense 3b)
especially : an Easterner in the West
3
informal : FELLOW, GUY
The other girls in the program never go out, so I always find myself out with dudes from my program.
— Cosmopolitan
—sometimes used as a term of address
Hey, dude, what's up?

Merriam Webster

Tania Cadogan said...

off topic edited to relevant section

Attorneys Ken Rosenfeld and Allen Sawyer said Joaquín García and his family are paying their legal fees and the evangelical church's finances are not involved. The lawyers spoke Friday at a bilingual press conference outside an east Los Angeles temple of La Luz del Mundo, with Joaquín García's family and church followers standing beside them, and called their client innocent of "false charges."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lawyers-for-church-leader-say-attorney-general-tainted-jury

If he is innocent of "false charges", does that mean he is guilty of "true charges"?

Tania Cadogan said...

off topic

This was a case that was brought up several years ago

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. – Jurors have reached a verdict in the case of a Southern California man charged with killing a family of four and burying their bodies in the desert.

The San Bernardino County District Attorney's Office said Friday that the verdict in the case against 62-year-old Charles "Chase" Merritt will be read in court Monday.

Merritt is charged with killing his business associate Joseph McStay, McStay's wife, Summer, and the couple's 3- and 4-year-old sons.

The family vanished from their San Diego County home in 2010. Three years later, their bodies were found in shallow graves in the desert.

Merritt was arrested in 2014. Prosecutors say Merritt killed McStay at a time when he was being cut out of McStay's water features business.

Jurors began deliberations last week.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-reached-for-man-charged-with-killing-family-of-4


It will be interesting to hear what their verdict is.

Lilstr said...

If he is innocent of "false charges", does that mean he is guilty of "true charges"?

Well said!

Dom said...

An attack on 2 lesbian women has been in the news recently. One of the victims left a statement on facebook which appears deceptive.

https://www.facebook.com/melaniapeese/posts/2310276979289157

English & Español, against CHAUVINIST, MISOGYNISTIC AND HOMOPHOBIC VIOLENCE / En contra del MACHISMO, MISOGINIA Y HOMOFOBIA.
--
Last Wednesday, I had a date with Chris. We got on the Night Bus, heading for her place in Camden Town, climbed upstairs and took the front seats. We must have kissed or something because these guys came after us. I don’t remember if they were already there or if they got on after us. There were at least four of them. They started behaving like hooligans, demanding that we kissed so they could enjoy watching, calling us ‘lesbians’ and describing sexual positions. I don’t remember the whole episode, but the word "scissors" stuck in my mind. It was only them and us there. In an attempt to calm things down, I started making jokes. I thought this might make them go away. Chris even pretended she was sick, but they kept on harassing us, throwing us coins and becoming more enthusiastic about it. The next thing I know is that Chris is in the middle of the bus fighting with them. On an impulse, I went over there only to find her face bleeding and three of them beating her up. The next thing I know is I'm being punched. I got dizzy at the sight of my blood and fell back. I don’t remember whether or not I lost consciousness. Suddenly the bus had stopped, the police were there and I was bleeding all over. Our stuff was stolen as well. I don’t know yet if my nose is broken, and I haven’t been able to go back to work, but what upsets me the most is that VIOLENCE HAS BECOME A COMMON THING, that sometimes it’s necessary to see a woman bleeding after having been punched to feel some kind of impact. I’m tired of being taken as a SEXUAL OBJECT, of finding out that these situations are usual, of gay friends who were beaten up JUST BECAUSE. We have to endure verbal harassment AND CHAUVINIST, MISOGYNISTIC AND HOMOPHOBIC VIOLENCE because when you stand up for yourself shit like this happens. By the way, I am thankful to all the women and men in my life that understand that HAVING BALLS MEANS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I just hope that in June, Pride Month, stuff like this can be spoken out loudly so they STOP HAPPENING!
--------------------------

She skips time "I don't remember/the next thing I know" on 4 occasions. Once on boarding the bus, once during the verbal altercation and twice during the physical altercation.

"They started behaving like hooligans"

Hooligans is not really a modern term and is used more in humour these days rather than to describe personally threatening behavior. Also not "they were hooligans" but "behaving like hooligans".

"It was only them and us there"

Why state this? Does she anticipate being asked why there are no witnesses? She barely remembers any details of the attackers including how many but knows that no one else was there.

She seems to describe the fight very passively. There is never a description of the attackers and seems to get much more pointed and angry about general misogyny than the attack itself.

"Our stuff was stolen as well"

Very passive. What was taken and what about the physical act of taking?

"but what upsets me the most is that VIOLENCE HAS BECOME A COMMON THING"

She is not upset about something personal? A personal attack?

"that sometimes it’s necessary to see a woman bleeding after having been punched to feel some kind of impact"

Who is feeling the impact, obviously those who see her bleeding, but the attackers or public?

Fake hate?

General P. Malaise said...

Blogger Dom said...
An attack on 2 lesbian women



you have picked up on many of the anomalies. she has left out/omitted information. the passivity is not expected. nor is the moralising in a universal manner. consider that they may have caused the event.

lynda said...

Here's a helluva 911 call. Listen to this..

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/peter-chadwick-calif-man-tells-authorities-his-wife-was-murdered-in-bizarre-911-call/

General P. Malaise said...

Blogger Dom said...
An attack on 2 lesbian women



follow the Linguistic Disposition LD. note it is neutral, so in context of a violent assault this is a positive LD. note the photograph of the two girls, they look posed and contrived. shades of Jussie Smollett?

Anonymous said...

@An attack on 2 lesbian women

The women’s way of describing the incident, and the way they use it for their agenda is indeed very “suspicious”. Besides I have a hard time wondering who took the picture and when? One of the women is credited for it but it’s not a handheld selfie, which I would expect.

On the other hand five teenagers have been arrested for the assault. They are now out on bail which could indicate that the women have identified them. If it turns out to be a true story it would in fact be a very interesting lesson to go over their statement again.

Anonymous said...

OT

The photo of the women after alleged looked staged, "posed and contrived" as the General says.

Thanks, Tania for the note regarding the verdict coming today in the McStay case, long time coming.

M

Anonymous said...

Merritt found guilty.

Tania Cadogan said...

Off topic

A Southern California man has been convicted of killing his business associate and his family over money, and burying their bodies in the desert.

Jurors on Monday found 62-year-old Charles “Chase” Merritt guilty of four counts of first-degree murder in the bludgeoning deaths of Joseph McStay, McStay’s wife, Summer, and the couple’s 3- and 4-year-old sons.

Prosecutors said Merritt killed the family with a sledgehammer at a time when he owed McStay money and was being cut out of the victim’s business making and selling custom water fountains.

Merritt worked with McStay in his water features business.

The jury also found the special circumstance of multiple murders. Prosecutors have said they would seek the death penalty if Merritt was convicted, and the penalty phase of the trial was scheduled to begin Tuesday.

The family vanished from their San Diego County home in 2010, puzzling investigators.

After the McStay family disappeared, authorities found bowls of uneaten popcorn at their San Diego County home, which had no signs of forced entry, and their car parked at a strip mall near the Mexican border.

For years, officials couldn’t determine what happened to the McStays. At one point, investigators said they believed the family had gone to Mexico voluntarily, though they couldn’t say why.

In 2013, their bodies were found in shallow graves in the desert after an off-road motorcyclist discovered skeletal remains in the area. Authorities also unearthed a rusty sledgehammer that they said was used to kill the family.

Merritt was arrested in 2014.

Authorities said they traced Merritt’s cellphone to the area of the desert gravesites in the days after the family disappeared and to a call seeking to close McStay’s online bookkeeping account.

Merritt referred to McStay in the past tense in an interview with investigators after the family vanished, and while the evidence linking him to the killings is largely circumstantial, it is “overwhelmingly convincing,” Imes said.

Merritt’s attorneys said the two men were best friends and investigators overlooked another possible suspect in the killings. Instead, they said, authorities zeroed in on an innocent man, but the evidence didn’t add up, noting there were no signs of an attack inside the family’s home.

“They tried his character and not the facts of this case,” defense attorney James McGee told jurors.

Many questions still remain about the family’s disappearance. Prosecutors acknowledge details of the killings aren’t entirely clear but say the evidence from the family’s car, cellphone towers and financial accounts link Merritt to the killings.

Authorities said McStay was cutting Merritt out of the business in early February and the two met on Feb. 4 in Rancho Cucamonga, where Merritt lived at the time.

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Prosecutors said financial records show Merritt tried to loot the business bank accounts just before and after the family disappeared and backdated checks to Feb. 4, knowing it was the last day anyone had contact with McStay.

Phone records show McStay called Merritt seven times after the Feb. 4 meeting, with defense lawyers arguing that McStay wouldn’t likely do that if he had just fired Merritt.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

John said...

OT Update:

A couple of observations.

Making a Murderer's Steven Avery says he's 'fighting for life' in prison letter

Making a Murderer's Steven Avery says he is "fighting for life" in a letter penned from his prison cell.

The 56-year-old released the handwritten note last night through lawyer Kathleen Zellner who shared it on Twitter with the caption: "Visited Steven Avery yesterday. This is his message to his supporters."

In the letter, Avery, originally from Manitowoc County, Wisconsin in the US, pleads "can you hear me?" before adding: "There are times that I feel like giving up."

He is currently incarcerated at the Waupan Correctional Instituation in Waupun, Wisconsin where he is serving a life sentence for the murder of Teresa Halbach.

He has always maintained his innocence and claims he was framed.

The letter begins: "There are times that I feel like giving up. I've been in prison 34 years as an innocent man. THIS IS NOT JUSTICE.

Not he capitalizes "THIS IS NOT JUSTICE". Why would proclaiming "innocence" not be capitalizes.

"I was framed by corrupt prosecutors, bad lawyers, and crooked cops. I am fighting for my life. Can you hear me?"

Note the order. Prosecutors work with evidence collated by Police. Wouldn't you put LE in priority of corruption unless you really believe them?

He continues: "I need all the public support you can give me. I will not give up if you do not give up on me. Thank you for your support. Truth wins."

Will he give up if the public gives up? And why would he if he didn't do it, something he can't bring himself to say.

Avery was previously jailed for the 1985 rape and attempted murder of Penny Beernsten but was exonerated after DNA evidence proved it was not him.

18 years into his 21-year sentence, new DNA evidence came to light which exonerated him.

It was revealed the real rapist was Gregory Allen.

It also emerged that there was evidence the Manitowoc County Sheriff department were aware he could be the perpetrator during the initial investigation, but instead were determined to convict Avery of the crime.

In 2003, Avery filed a $36 million civil suit against Manitowoc County, its former sheriff, and its former district attorney for wrongful conviction and imprisonment.

Two years later, in 2005, he was arrested for the murder of Teresa Halbach, whose charred remains were found in a burn-pit outside his home.

The 25-year-old vanished after visiting the Avery's Salvage Lot to photograph a car for Auto Trader magazine.

Avery was found guilty in 2007 of her murder and sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole, alongside nephew Brendan Dassey , now 29.

Avery's plight for justice has gripped viewers of the Netflix documentary series.

His lawyer Ms Zellner is confident that the new evidence she is bringing forward will be enough to free Avery.

In February he won the right to appeal against his conviction.

Ms Zellner insists Ms Halbach remains, including a pelvic bone which has never been DNA tested, would prove Avery's innocence.

She believes it would show that the murder and mutilation did not happen at the Avery family's car lot, but instead was "planted" to "frame him."

In a letter to the Wisconsin Department of Justice, Ms Zellner says bones found in the pit were given to Ms Halbach's family and were not tested for DNA - which is in violation of state law.

She says this evidence "has the potential to undo the whole case".

She also published a damning letter revealing the transcript of a voicemail she claims was sent to her by mistake from State prosecutors about the pelvic bone.

More:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/making-murderers-steven-avery-says-16511074?fbclid=IwAR0ARUfwfz6ZQpClV9w7G0WO1BvqhxNnk4AX0IRUGC8xWCtH3jOmXgIgZmY

General P. Malaise said...

Blogger New England Water Blog said...
OT

great that link contains a malware.

New England Water Blog said...

General P. Malaise said...
Blogger New England Water Blog said...
OT

great that link contains a malware.

I did not encounter one and would not have posted if I had.

General P. Malaise said...

Blogger New England Water Blog said...
General P. Malaise said...
Blogger New England Water Blog said...
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yes I know, I have a program running that blocks them and when I opened the link it blocked the malware.

unless you have such a program you would not know there was malware attached.

General P. Malaise said...

Blogger General P. Malaise said...
Blogger New England Water Blog said...
General P. Malaise said...
Blogger New England Water Blog said...

that is the idea of the malware, that you do not know it is there. I suggest you run a program such as malwarebytes, they have free versions.

New England Water Blog said...

I use ESET and a scan tells me I am problem free. I would cut and paste the lengthy statement but it was only shown as a JPEG. I'll try to find a copy.

Tania Cadogan said...

Off topic steve avery

Making a Murderer's Steven Avery says he is "fighting for life" in a letter penned from his prison cell.

The 56-year-old released the handwritten note last night through lawyer Kathleen Zellner who shared it on Twitter with the caption: "Visited Steven Avery yesterday. This is his message to his supporters."
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In the letter, Avery, originally from Manitowoc County, Wisconsin in the US, pleads "can you hear me?" before adding: "There are times that I feel like giving up."

He is currently incarcerated at the Waupan Correctional Instituation in Waupun, Wisconsin where he is serving a life sentence for the murder of Teresa Halbach.

He has always maintained his innocence and claims he was framed.

The letter begins: "There are times that I feel like giving up. I've been in prison 34 years as an innocent man. THIS IS NOT JUSTICE.

"I was framed by corrupt prosecutors, bad lawyers, and crooked cops. I am fighting for my life. Can you hear me?"

He continues: "I need all the public support you can give me. I will not give up if you do not give up on me. Thank you for your support. Truth wins."

Avery was previously jailed for the 1985 rape and attempted murder of Penny Beernsten but was exonerated after DNA evidence proved it was not him.

18 years into his 21-year sentence, new DNA evidence came to light which exonerated him.

It was revealed the real rapist was Gregory Allen.

It also emerged that there was evidence the Manitowoc County Sheriff department were aware he could be the perpetrator during the initial investigation, but instead were determined to convict Avery of the crime.

In 2003, Avery filed a $36 million civil suit against Manitowoc County, its former sheriff, and its former district attorney for wrongful conviction and imprisonment.

Two years later, in 2005, he was arrested for the murder of Teresa Halbach, whose charred remains were found in a burn-pit outside his home.

The 25-year-old vanished after visiting the Avery's Salvage Lot to photograph a car for Auto Trader magazine.

Avery was found guilty in 2007 of her murder and sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole, alongside nephew Brendan Dassey , now 29.

Avery's plight for justice has gripped viewers of the Netflix documentary series.

His lawyer Ms Zellner is confident that the new evidence she is bringing forward will be enough to free Avery.

In February he won the right to appeal against his conviction.

Ms Zellner insists Ms Halbach remains, including a pelvic bone which has never been DNA tested, would prove Avery's innocence.

She believes it would show that the murder and mutilation did not happen at the Avery family's car lot, but instead was "planted" to "frame him."

In a letter to the Wisconsin Department of Justice, Ms Zellner says bones found in the pit were given to Ms Halbach's family and were not tested for DNA - which is in violation of state law.

She says this evidence "has the potential to undo the whole case".

She also published a damning letter revealing the transcript of a voicemail she claims was sent to her by mistake from State prosecutors about the pelvic bone.
She had previously contacted them to confirm whether the State is in possession of it or whether it was returned to Ms Halbach's family.

But she said her calls had gone unanswered.

In the letter dated February 13 and sent to the Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, she alleged Attorney Mark Williams inadvertently called her instead of Assistant Attorney General Thomas Fallon - in which he says 'not to respond' to her about the bone.

She wrote: "...as the attached transcript and CD illustrate, the State is trying to deceive undersigned counsel and this Court about the status of the pelvic bone, which was recovered in 2005 from the Manitowoc Gravel Pit."

Tania Cadogan said...

cont.

She went on to reveal the message from Mr Williams.

She stated he said: "Hi Tom, this is Mark Williams. I'll send you an email later today, but I don't think we should do anything or respond to her at all until tomorrow, uh, when we look into the bag - and see exactly the pelvic bones are in there or not.

"So I wouldn't respond until we look into the bag tomorrow morning and then we can talk about it before we send a response. Thanks a lot. Bye."

Ms Zellner, who has one of the highest success rates for overturning wrongful convictions in the United States, believes this voicemail shows Mr Fallon has "misrepresented that the State was in possession of the human pelvic bone."

In February, she won a trial-court hearing to present the claim that evidence was mishandled, and argue that the case should be retried.

Ms Zellner said at the time: "We are convinced [that] will result in Mr. Avery getting a new trial and being acquitted."

A trial court date has not yet been set.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/making-murderers-steven-avery-says-16511074?fbclid=IwAR0ARUfwfz6ZQpClV9w7G0WO1BvqhxNnk4AX0IRUGC8xWCtH3jOmXgIgZmY

Tania Cadogan said...

off topic

Amanda Knox has broken down in tears on her first return to Italy since her acquittal in the murder of her flatmate Meredith Kercher.

Ms Knox, 31, recalled her four years in jail after she was arrested in 2007 for the murder of British exchange student Ms Kercher in the house they rented in Perugia.

She became the focus of a sensational murder case, where she was depicted as an angel-faced man-eater dubbed Foxy Knoxy, while many in her native America defended her as an innocent victim caught in a judicial nightmare abroad.

Ms Kercher, a student from Surrey, was found semi-naked on 1 November 2007 in a pool of blood, her throat cut.

Ms Knox, who was initially convicted of the murder before being cleared on appeal, said she felt fearful upon her return to Italy.

"I'm afraid of being harassed, mocked, framed, I'm afraid that new accusations will be levied against me just because I'm here giving my version of events," she told a criminal justice conference in Modena, northern Italy.

In an emotional speech in which she cried at one point, and at several others struggled to fight back tears, she launched a stinging attack on the media, which she said had failed to probe the authorities over an arrest she said was based on no evidence.

"It was impossible for me to have a fair trial," she claimed, recalling how in the eyes of many she had become "the dirty, psychopathic, man-eating Foxy Knoxy".

"They convicted that doppelganger. That person was sentenced to 26 years in jail," she said.

"The verdict fell upon me like a crushing weight," she added.

"I could only suffer in silence from my prison cell".

Ms Knox said the media invented a "false and baseless story, which fuelled people's fantasies".

She reached out the man who prosecuted her, Giuliano Mignini, saying she now recognises he was trying to find justice after a brutal murder and was moved by a "genuine and noble" intent. She said she hoped to one day meet him outside a court of justice.

"And I hope that he will also see I am not a monster, I am simply Amanda," Knox said.

Prior to her arrival in Italy, she published an essay called Your Content, My Life, discussing her decision to accept an invitation from the Italy Innocence Project.

In it, she said that "while on trial for a murder I didn't commit, my prosecutor painted me as a sex-crazed femme fatale".

Tania Cadogan said...

cont.


She added that the media "profited for years by sensationalising an already sensational and utterly unjustified story".

It was "on us to stop making and stop consuming such irresponsible media", she wrote.

Ms Knox and her former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, were convicted of the 2007 murder of 21-year-old Ms Kercher in 2009.

The Briton was stabbed 47 times and her throat slashed at the flat she shared with Ms Knox.

The American spent four years in prison, before being cleared on appeal in 2011.

Italian courts overturned the acquittal in 2014, but Italy's highest court overturned the conviction definitively in 2015.

Judges ruled there had not been enough evidence to prove their wrongdoing beyond reasonable doubt, and said there were no "biological traces" firmly connecting them to the murder.

An immigrant from the Ivory Coast, Rudy Guede, is serving a 16-year jail sentence for the murder of Ms Kercher.

Prosecutors have maintained that the wounds sustained by Ms Kercher were inflicted by more than one person.

A conviction against Ms Knox for falsely accusing a bar owner in the case has been upheld.

https://news.sky.com/story/amanda-knox-breaks-down-in-tears-as-she-returns-to-italy-for-first-time-since-acquittal-11742279

At no point does she say she did not kill Meredith Kercher, something i would expect her to say first and foremost, her priority in claiming her innocence.
For whatever reason known only to the Italian supreme court, they quashed the verdict despite knox changing her story yet again and claiming she was actually present at the murder when she learned sollecito was back tracking on his alibi for her. The fact she spoke to her parents and lawyers before announcing her change in story.
She cannot bring herself to deny the murder as her own language both spoken and written (the handwritten letter) tell us she is guilty

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3008936/Foxy-Knoxy-s-ex-love-Raffaele-Sollecito-blows-hole-alibi-time-Meredith-Kercher-s-murder-eve-final-appeal.html

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2013/03/amanda-knox-language-of-sexual-assault.html

Anonymous said...

Derion Vence is talking to other inmates and his story has changed multiple times. First he said he was playing with Maleah and bouncing her on his knee when she accidentally fell and hit her head. The latest version of his story, to a local tv reporter, is that he was on his cellphone at the table and Maleah was trying to climb in his lap several times and he finally slung her away, causing her to hit her head. Since she was unresponsive, he put her to bed, rather than take her for medical attention.
The Houston police are probably loving this guy's big mouth and just let him keep talking. who knows, eventually he may just tell the whole truth. Maybe.

Unknown said...

What I dont like is Quannel X getting his grubby paws involved. He has a shady past, was kicked out of the New Black Panther party and is a lesser know Rev Al Sharpton who does nothing but profit from the black community thru his charity thing. Forgot the name

Habundia said...

Thank you Tania for your deeper insight of the case of Steven Avery. I've been closely following this case after seeing MaN (as many millions did), and have spent lots of time reading into all the documentation available for the past 3+ year.
The corruption within this case (and in other cases, some proven others not) runs deep. So many wrongs have been done in this case, so much dubious activities (never shown trough MaM but where gotten through FIOA's, if I am correct, paid for by dedicated people searching for the truth)


I strongly believe this man to be innocent of this crime (murdering and burning Teresa Halbach) of which he has been convicted of.

I wonder...does and 70 IQ, leaving school at a young age, being in jail 18 years, whereof 8 years LE already was aware another person was guilty of the crime he was sitting for, having no education and being put back to jail 2 years after being released...wouldn't that have effect of what way someone is saying.
If you haven't been believed for 36 years by many and have always have had to fight alone could this effect the way you think and speak?

I know my experiences have changed the way I think and speak of things which I didn't before those experiences.