Friday, September 20, 2019

Accused Mom Denies Rubbing Heroin on Daughter's Gums


A mother is accused of rubbing heroin on her daughter's gums, leading to the baby's death.  The news report, unusually, included more direct quotes. 

Statement Analysis is the study of words for the purpose of discerning deception from truth.  Training is done for law enforcement, military intelligence, business, journalism, social sciences and private citizens. 

Our expectation is innocence. Therefore, we expect the accused to say, "I did not put heroin (laced with fentanyl) on my daughter's gums.

This would be a very strong denial:

1.  She uses the pronoun "I" meaning she is psychologically connected to the denial

2. She uses the past tense verb, "did not" ("didn't")

3. She answers the allegation specifically. 

This would be a "Reliable Denial", with a 90% likeliness of being accurate.  Should she then be challenged as to why she should be believed and looking upon her denial saying,

"Because I told the truth", it would be 99% reliable.  

Let's examine her statements: 

1. The Good Mother 


"Jordynn loved me more than she loved anybody in the world," 



Kimberly Nelligan's daughter Jordynn, 1, passed away in October 2018 from acute fentanyl intoxication, according to the state medical examiner's office.

Here, the mother has the need to be portrayed as a good mother; one whom the infant "loved" more than anyone "in the world."

We have the "Good Mother" principle where we consider the need to persuade that one is a good mother; often indicative to the contrary.  When asserted under criminal context, an investigator should immediately consider that the subject has been accused of child abuse or neglect, or may have been investigated by child protective services. 

For an example of the "Good Mother" principle, see the murder of Hailey Dunn

According to court documents, the medical examiner further found Jordynn's death was caused by the toddler somehow ingesting the lethal drug.

Jordynn's father, Shane Smith, told investigators Nelligan routinely rubbed heroin residue on their daughter's gums to help the toddler sleep.

She issued her first denial: 

"I never rubbed anything, any type of heroin, fentanyl, whatever, on my daughter's gums," Nelligan said.

The word "never" avoids a specific time frame. The victim died allegedly after the last overdose of the opioids.  A mother stands accused of this specific act and her daughter's death should be a specific memorial event, with attendant hormonal consequence, where the denial should be aimed at. 

"Never" is not reliable. 

This could be due to the reporter's question -- if the reporter accused her of doing it repeatedly, "never" may be expected.  

Thus far, we have the need to be seen as a "good mother", and an unreliable denial.  

Child protective workers and law enforcement officials know that sedating a child for sleep is more common than the public realizes. 

This is the conclusion of the analysis of the death of Madeleine McCann.  

News of the toddler's death and Smith's testimony to police, coming out in those court documents, quickly led to public outrage on social media.

"I don't blame anybody for the way they feel, not at all. I don't think any of you are wrong for how you feel. I just think you're wrong to think that I actually did that because I didn't do that to my little girl. I did not do that to her. I can't. I wish I could look at you all in your face and tell you I know exactly what happened to her."

The subject does not blame anybody for the way they feel about her--

This is the "Ingratiation Factor" -- it is where she allows for those angry at her to be angry at her. The allegation is that she killed her daughter. There is no "agreement" or peace between innocence of such an accusation and acceptance (anger). The "psychological wall of truth" should be present in the language. 

It isn't.  

Did you notice that she only "thinks" they are wrong?

This is a weak assertion. When we "think" something, it allows for others to "think" differently. 

"I locked my keys in the car" is very strong. 

"I think I locked my keys in the car" is a weaker statement.  

We then judge the quality of the weakness. 

"I think I locked my keys in the car" is appropriately weak if the subject lacks certainty.

Putting drugs on your daughter's gums is not something you might assert with appropriate weakness. 

If she did not put drugs on her daughter's gums, there is no allowance for anger, nor for difference of opinion with "think." 


Jordynn, 1, Kimberly Nelligan's deceased daughter

We continue with this statement:

I just think you're wrong to think that I actually did that because I didn't do that to my little girl. I did not do that to her. I can't. I wish I could look at you all in your face and tell you I know exactly what happened to her."

a. actually is a dependent word. It means she is comparing rubbing drugs on her daughter's gums with something else. 

b. I didn't do that to my little girl. 

Recall that our Reliable Denial must answer the accusation. This avoids it. 

c. I did not do that to her. This continues to avoid the accusation. This is a form of psychological distancing from the victim, of whom she claimed, as a 1 year old, loved her more than anybody in the world.

Please note that "Ingratiation Factor" is also noted as a possible dominant personalty trait common to drug abusers;

manipulative personalities. 

Surviving on their wits, manipulative personalities prefer in person, face to face, in order to persuade. 

Note her next words:  I wish I could look at you all in your face and tell you I know exactly what happened to her."

Did you also notice the short sentence, "I can't"

This is called the "Gnostic Split" where one considers herself a good person "in my heart", which is often an indicator of a refusal to accept responsibility for one's actions. 

It is, in this sense, to disassociate--to create a new being who would not do such a thing.  It is often an indicator that the subject did the very thing accused. 

She then expands her denial: 


"I did nothing to either one of them at all. I am at fault for allowing her [Jordynn's] dad around her and I shouldn't have. I know that."

Nelligan believes Smith's drug use is to blame for their daughter's death, not her own past use.

She avoids her daughter's name and now offers that she did "nothing" to the victim's father. 

What might cause this?

The false allegation made against him is the likely context. 

The subject now embeds her admission. I have highlighted the embedded admission in red, as well as the other indicators of contextual deception:

"I should have never let her father around her and believe me, I regret that for the rest of my life. I will never forgive myself for that, ever, but I can promise the world that if I hurt her, I would've killed myself that night. I hate saying those words because I don't want my kids to ever think I'm going to do that but I would've killed myself because I could never live with myself if I did something like that."

She is likely telling the truth about suicidal ideation and likely has threatened it. She needs to be seen as someone who "wouldn't" do that to her children.  Collateral interviews likely showed that she did threaten suicide to those near her, including the children.   

It is interesting to note that she uses subtle disassociation rather than issue a simple denial. 

Analysis Conclusion


Deception Indicated.

The subject indicates deception and guilt, with the ability to blame another.  She distances herself from her daughter, and her words reveal a manipulative personality.  

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29 comments:

sha said...

What kind of nitwit would rub heroin on a baby's gums? She can afford heroin but can't get any baby orajel? People keep getting dumber and dumber, soon we will be living 'Idiocracy'

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Lots of parents sedate their children --- with drug addicted parents, it must always be medically screened.

Peter

Nadine Lumley said...

I wish I knew why her word of BELIEVE me was in red. What does that mean?

If these killing parents only knew how easy it is to get babies to sleep for their entire childhoods, completely drug and booze free, and it works so fast if you follow strictly, babies and kids can be trained in 3 or 4 nights.

https://www.thebump.com/a/ferber-method/

RIP CUTE LITTLE BABY GIRL, she looked slightly off or high in that baby pic 😣

.

Statement Analysis Blog said...

red is used to call attention to a word.

"Believe me" is unnecessary persuasion and is like "promise", "swear to God", etc.

It indicates the person very much wants to be believed in this point; often revealing habitual lying.

Context is very important.

Sometimes the person normally lies and is NOW telling the truth.

Other times, it is deceptive.


In training:

With lots of practice of various allegations (missing children, arson, sexual assault, theft, etc), the analyst develops a sympathy with the language of the specific allegation.

Peter

Peter

Anonymous said...

OT: Demi Moore interview
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/demi-moore-memoir-claims-alcoholic-mom-had-part-in-her-being-raped-160522039.html

"Sawyer recounted how Moore’s mother brought her to bars as a young teen “so that men will notice them.” One night, when Moore was 15, she came home and an older man they knew was waiting for her in their apartment and raped her.

It was after the sexual assault that Moore learned that her mother had given her rapist the key to their home. That was with the man said to Moore, “How does it feel to be whored by your mother for $500?”

Moore, who called it “a devastating betrayal” in the book, still has a hard time accepting it. Asked by Sawyer if she believes her mother “sold her,” the star searched for the right words.

“I think...” she started to say and then trailed off. “In my deep heart, no. I don’t think it was a straightforward transaction. But she still did give him the access and put me in harm’s way.”"

John Mc Gowan said...

OT:

Steve Avery’s Lawyer Posts Inmate’s ‘Confession,’ In Which He Asks For Money And Tells Her To ‘Keep Your Panties On’

An inmate named Joseph Evans claims he hit Teresa Halbach with his car in Steve Avery's salvage yard, then burned her body.

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/steve-averys-lawyer-tweets-inmates-teresa-halbach-confession?sky=soc_fb_oxygen_crimetime&fbclid=IwAR10iSC2cGOmDuqOj_t3g5zlzJGqUQJOAxDGWS4418DdYbnArL_LhT9rbZs

MizzMarple said...

O/T:

Several months ago, Peter had an analysis of the 9-1-1 call made by Amber Gugyer, Dallas police officer, who shot and killed Botham Jean in his apartment. Guyger told 9-1-1 - about 20 times - that she was thought it was her apartment.

The trial started Monday, and is live stream, for anyone interested.

Link:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/special-reports/botham-jean/how-to-watch-amber-guyger-murder-trial/287-2d84e257-4337-4557-9d1f-cfa876340ffd


Timeline: What has happened since Amber Guyger shot Botham Jean
The murder trial for fired Dallas police officer Amber Guyger began Sept. 23 in the death of Botham Jean.

On Sept. 6, 2018, Botham Jean, a 26-year-old black accountant, was shot and killed by his downstairs neighbor, a 31-year-old white officer named Amber Guyger.

The shooting and the ensuing investigation at the hands of the Texas Rangers have spurred contentious debate. Guyger was indicted two months after on a murder charge.

Link:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/special-reports/botham-jean/timeline-what-has-happened-since-amber-guyger-shot-botham-jean/287-594314879

Autumn said...

Thanks for the update MizzMarple. I couldn't access the links but saw that the trial can be viewed on the WFAA youtube channel as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2U0_-mMwKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ3h4Czsoys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHxeJdRE6Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVfN-XFj59o

Teething said...

I wish someone would rub heroin on my gums! That sounds fun :-)

John Mc Gowan said...

OT:

"Reliable Denial"

Shocking: Countries listed as voting for Messi over Van Dijk deny doing so in rigging storm

Lionel Messi was named the World Player of 2019 at the FIFA Best Awards on Monday evening, just ahead of Champions League winning Liverpool centre-back Virgil van Dijk.

But according to the Express, the votes may have been rigged – with Sudan’s coach Zdravko Lugarisic and Nicaragua’s Juan Barrera denying they picked Lionel Messi as their no.1 – despite the FIFA list of who voted for who claiming as much.

“I did not vote for Messi. I was surprised to be on the list of captains who voted for Messi and there is no explanation how it appeared there,” said the latter.

This comes after Egypt’s vote for Mo Salah was denied after it was submitted in capital letters.

To be honest, it’s no surprise that there is some controversy in regards to FIFA – or anything the organisation does.

We’d be more shocked if the voting system was fair!

What’s important is that Jurgen Klopp was named the best manager, Alisson the best goalkeeper and far, far above that, Liverpool won the European Cup – which thankfully was completely out of their hands.

Now it’s up for Klopp’s sublime team to continue the period of greatness and clinch the Premier League.

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2019/09/27/shocking-countries-listed-as-voting-for-messi-over-van-dijk-deny-doing-so-in-rigging-storm/?fbclid=IwAR1ZU5ovGMnXgXK-RpIvITQI7I7nMrRoQqKsJ3vAnCq-4YEgF1iTdQ2J4Zg

MizzMarple said...

Hi Autumn,

Thanks for the youtube links in the Guyger trial. I watched bits and pieces of the trial, but I am still playing catch up.

One of the most interesting facts presented at trial this week was that Guyger (off duty Dallas police officer who shot Mr. Botham) texted her married lover (also a Dallas police officer) TWICE during that 9-1-1 call!

Also, she rendered no CPR and no aid to Mr. Botham after she realized she was in the wrong apartment. But again, she had time to text her lover for help.

Her 9-1-1 call was slightly over 5 minutes long, surely enough time to at least try to render aid to the innocent victim while waiting on the paramedics. But she had time to text her lover for help.

While I understand the basic principles of statement analysis, and her 9-1-1 call is what it is, it is difficult for me to ignore the fact that she was able to text during that 9-1-1 call. Guyger did not state during her 9-1-1 call that was texting, but the phone records at trial proved she sent 2 text messages while on the phone with 9-1-1.

I understand it will not change the analysis, but it would be interesting to see at what point the texts were sent in relation to her words during that 9-1-1 call.

I hope this made sense. Thank you.

Autumn said...

Hi MizzMarple,

I also watched bits and pieces for the moment. Yes, I think what you write makes a lot of sense. I saw Guyger's testimony about those text messages just now and got the impression that she wanted / needed help for herself rather than for Jean. If she was busy writing and sending those text messages that might also explain (in part) why her 911 call was so repetitive ("I thought it was my apartment", over and over).

Something else I noticed is that several residents testified that they repeatedly were on the wrong floor by mistake (even to the point of putting their key in the wrong apartment door). So at least that part of Guyger’s story doesn’t sound unbelievable.

This video is also interesting (from a procedural perspective): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzu_NOG8X8c . At the start of the video it becomes clear that the judge excluded parts of the testimony of a witness for the defense (ranger Armstrong) relating to the distance between Jean and Guyger at the time they encountered one another. Armstrong testified that there was 13 to 15 feet between Jean and Guyger at that time based on Jean’s shoes being found in the approximate area where he fell. According to the judge it would be disingenuous to allow this as a fact because Jean wearing those shoes can’t be taken for a fact since they were moved by the first responders and no person testified that he was wearing those shoes. At first glance the judge seems to have a point. But my question is: is it normal for US judges to knock down the testimony of either the prosecution or the defense? I would think it’s the job of the opposing party (in this case: the prosecution). The fact that she uses the word “disingenuous” repeatedly in relation to ranger Armstrong’s testimony makes me wonder if she is biased(?)

Anonymous said...

Sometimes the words “believe me” can indicate truth in a statement expressing something where some supportive evidence is being withheld for a good reason.
Example: My real Dad wrote to me in a letter when I was a child “Believe me I understand how lonely it can feel (to have the sixth sense).” Supportive evidence he was withholding = being incarcerated and hated by the whole world for crimes he hadnt committed. Rather he was a “mindhunter” who could “see” what was inside the brains of killers.

Anonymous said...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-robberies-police-chief-unacceptable.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Anonymous said...

New documentary released. THE TRAYVON HOAX. Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America.

Tania Cadogan said...

Off topic

Casey Anthony has said she is contemplating having another child as she 'feels her biological clock ticking' and would like another baby before time runs out.

Anthony, 33, was branded the most-hated mother in America from the time of her arrest for the murder of her two-year-old daughter Caylee through the six-week trial in 2011 in Orlando, Florida.

Caylee's skeletal remains were found in a trash bag in December 2008, in woodlands close to the family home.

Anthony was accused of neglecting her daughter and killing her to get out of her parental responsibilities.

She changed her story throughout the police investigation, with her defense team claiming her father George had been responsible for Caylee's death, arguing that he hid the body after she drowned in his pool.

Since Anthony's acquittal, nobody has been charged with Caylee's killing.

Despite being acquitted in the toddler's murder many people still believe she killed her own child.

In recent months, Anthony has been spotted out and about far more frequently in an attempt to put her past behind her.

It's a change from the low-key life she has led in the eight years since the trial ended.

In 2017, she said that it was 'unlikely' she would be 'dumb enough to bring another kid into the world', but it appears her stance has softened.

'She feels like her biological clock is ticking,' said a source to People. 'She knows she's getting older. She's not the young girl who everyone saw on trial. She's in her 30s, wondering what to do next, and hoping that she can find some meaning in her life.'

Although she was dating last year, the relationship appears to have ended because Anthony 'wasn't ready to settle down.'

But now it appears she reassessing her goals for the future.

'Marriage, family, the white picket fence,' an unnamed source told People. 'In some ways, that's very appealing to Casey. She'd want things to be less dysfunctional than the family she had growing up, but she likes the idea of stability.'

As she looks towards the future, it will be a sure sign that Anthony has overcome her tragic past.

'It's ancient history, as far as she is concerned,' said a source to People. 'It was a very dark period in her life, and she is a different person. So she's ready for something new. If that includes children, she's ready for that.'

She believes her daughter may have drowned by accident but maintains she had no part in her death and does not know for certain who hid Caylee's body in the woodland where she was found.

'Regardless of what the media has depicted of me, I am not a monster. I just don't show my sadness. A thing that was taught to me as a young girl,' Anthony said to DailyMail.com earlier this year.

'I suffer on the inside. I learn to make peace and put on a smile to cover the sadness.

'Through it all, I never once thought of suicide. I am stronger than that..that is a coward's way out, and it is a sign of guilt to me.'

Tania Cadogan said...

cont.


Anthony's 2011 trial was a media circus. At least 40 million people watched some of the testimony.

She was acquitted of murder and manslaughter charges on July 5, 2011 and convicted of four counts of lying to police.

After her acquittal, she was described by a Florida Department of Corrections spokeswoman as 'one of the most hated women in America'.

In 2018, Casey's father, George Anthony, commented about how he would feel if his daughter had another child.

'Knowing now that she could potentially be a mom again, I hope she does better this time around than what she did last time,' George said.

'I hope that child is strong, grows up to be a worthwhile part of society and, the person that she has the child with, I hope they are going to love her and that child immensely. I hope whatever life she has left, that she makes something positive happen in her life.'

The parents do not currently speak to their daughter.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7515865/Casey-Anthony-says-feels-biological-clock-ticking-considering-having-child.html

Anonymous said...

She said: "I wish I could look at you all in your face and tell you I know exactly what happened to her."

I believe this statement. She does know exactly what happened but she won't tell.


GetThem

Anonymous said...

George is a pedophile who deserves the electric chair. He raped Casey & raped & killed Caylee. George’s fat ugly lying face deserves a boot to the head.

frommindtomatter said...

"I don't blame anybody for the way they feel, not at all. I don't think any of you are wrong for how you feel. I [just think] you're wrong to think that I actually did [that] because I didn't do [that] to my little girl. I did not do [that] to her. I can't. I wish [I could look at you all in your face] and tell you [I know exactly] what happened to her."

“I just think” – as Peter said she makes a weak assertion by using the word think, and as she uses “just” in front of it I know she is comparing her thinking against something else, something stronger like “to know” but she is unable to use the stronger language as it would be a lie.

Better to remove “I don't think any of you are wrong” and replace with “but you are wrong” which would be very strong.

She uses the word “that” multiple times in reference to what she didn’t do to her daughter. This could suggest she did something but it wasn’t “that”, and I would seek to understand her own personal perception of reality in relation to her use of “that”. If she has rubbed narcotics on her daughters’ gums to knock her out then she would perceive her actions as (in her own mind) non-lethal, whereas being accused of causing her daughter’s death through such actions would mean something else in her mind. This would lead to “this and that” language being introduced. She did “this” (sedated her daughter), but not “that” (did something which intentionally lead to her daughters death).

“I wish [I could look at you all in your face] and tell you [I know exactly] what happened to her.”

She has a need to be able to look at people in their face but cannot do so which indicates shame/guilt. Also she uses the word “exactly” which tells me she knows what happened but just not exactly. If a person knows 99% of what happened they could easily say they did not know exactly as that would require 100% knowledge of the event. It allows her to be vague and distance herself from what happened.

She could of said “and tell you what happened to her.” Which would be the shortest and strongest statement but she adds “I know” which weakens her words and then “exactly” which tells us she knows something (probably a hell of a lot).

Her words have betrayed her and she tells us she knows what has happened without realising it. The simple honest sentence would be:

“I wish I knew what happened to her” (tells me she does not know)

That is 8 words compared to her 21 words. Her 21 word sentence shows she feels shame/guilt and reveals she has knowledge of what did happen to her daughter.

Adrian.

Anonymous said...

OT:

Who's telling the truth here - Valkyrie or her father?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/director-rob-cohens-daughter-accuses-him-sexual-assault-1188892

John Mc Gowan said...

From frommindtomatte's post

Hi,

Quote:

"I don't blame anybody for the way they feel, not at all. I don't think any of you are wrong for how you feel.

No analysis needed here. *Exhales with blown out cheeks*

Anonymous said...

OT
False accusations
12-year-old schoolgirl "pulled a Jussie"

Amari Allen claimed last week she was held down by three white boys who cut her hair off at their Christian $12,000-a-year school, where Mike Pence's wife Karen works as a teacher part-time.

Stephen Danish, head of Immanuel Christian School, said in a statement on Monday: 'We can now confirm that the student who accused three of her classmates of assault has acknowledged that the allegations were false.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7524479/Jussie-Smollett-hits-comparison-black-schoolgirl-getting-dreadlocks-cut-off.html

John Mc Gowan said...

6th grader claims classmates pinned her down, cut dreadlocks, calling them 'ugly' and 'nappy' at Virginia private school

That pesky number 3 makes another appearance.

SPRINGFIELD, Va. -- Police are investigating a 12-year-old girl's allegation that her classmates grabbed her and cut her dreadlocks on the playground of a northern Virginia private school.

"Where were the teachers, administrators," said Cynthia Allen. "Where was anybody to protect her from this heinous crime?"

Allen is overwhelmed with frustration after learning what her 12-year-old granddaughter Amari went through on this school playground Monday.

Amari is a 6th grader at the private Immanuel Christian School in Springfield, Virginia.

The same place where second lady Karen Pence teaches.

Amari told WUSA that she's been bullied for weeks before the alleged incident.

"I sometimes think that I don't deserve to be there and I'm ugly," Amari said.

She said three 6th grade boys won't let up. They take her school lunches, call her names and more recently attacked her on the school playground

"One put my hands behind my back, one of them covered my mouth," Armari described.

All while she said a third student pulled out scissors and cut her hair, leaving her lengthy dreadlocks hanging unevenly.

"He took big chunks of my hair and just cut," she said.

Amari's grandmother wonders where the teachers and other students were when this happened.

"They call me ugly, I shouldn't have been born. An attention seeker," Armari said.

Amari said she never told anyone because she was scared, but her grandmother noticed her hair and questioned her a couple days later.

"I saw where they just chopped them up and everything, and she said, 'I did, I did,'" Allen recalled. "She was on the defense. I said, 'no, you didn't cut your hair.'"

Amari's family pays nearly $12,000 a year for her to attend the private school, which on its website outlines a strict-no bullying policy.

In a statement, head of school Stephen Danish wouldn't address our questions directly but stated, "we are deeply disturbed by the allegations" and that the school has a "zero tolerance policy for any kind of bullying or abuse."

Danish also said they have reached out to law enforcement to conduct a thorough investigation.

"I want to see them dismissed from the school. I want to see something done," Allen said. "I want to see whatever the policies are for bullying. I want to see them implemented because apparently they're not being implemented."

https://abc13.com/va-6th-grader-claims-classmates-pinned-her-down-cut-dreadlocks-/5573212/

Update:

Girl who claimed white classmates cut dreadlocks admits she made story up, school says

https://abc7ny.com/girl-12-admits-she-lied-about-classmates-cutting-her-dreadlocks/5579202/?fbclid=IwAR0M6KYfGsvYeeiUh3CPZHu3A7AAZZQdg6zdR6My7tV425hhr4D87A7M2XA

Hey Jude said...

Prison letter from Chris Watts to Cherylyn Cadle, author of “Letters from Christopher”, to be published 7th October

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7520985/Chris-Watts-chilling-letter-confessing-killed-family.html


April 23, 2019
Dear Cheryln,
Hello again! I hope you are doing well! It has been awesome talking with you on the phone, but I know the 15-minute timeframe is a pain. Sometimes I can get right back on the phone but right now there are other inmates that like to be on the phone as much as I do, so I respect their time as well. How's your dad doing, I've been praying on that every day.
Yes, that petition really blew my mind that people really want to make me suffer like that. Even if they did ever take my pictures, they can't take my memories. An inmate from another institution wrote me about that subject
and said, 'If they take your pictures, they would need to take the pictures from the other 500-600 people that have their family pictures up on their cell convicted of the same act.'
Do I feel like I should be incarcerated? For the act I committed, I most definitely thinks so. Do I imagine myself ever doing anything like this or be a danger to
society? I most definitely think NOT! If I were to ever be released, I know I would go straight to a ministry and start going to jails/prisons and help inmates. If God led me to be ordained, I would go that route as well; possibly even be a Chaplain. Maybe the laws will change one day. My attorney team could see I was different and knew that this was a one-time occurrence for me. They told me that in Europe, the law is I would serve 20 years or so for homicide, and in California, after 25 years of imprisonment, on a life sentence you can be released if you've had good behavior. So, there's hope for everyone to live outside prison walls. I know physically I'm behind these walls, but my spirit is FREE with Christ!
If God keeps putting it on your heart that there is more to the story than what I told the FBI has, you're correct. I don't like saying stuff

Hey Jude said...

like that over the phone because I'm never certain when they screen my calls. I know I already told you the vision I had before August 13th, when I was lying in bed and all the lights were on in the loft and downstairs and I felt so alone. That's exactly what happened April 14th when I was lying in bed.
I don't know if you want this in the book or if God does but here are the things I left out. 1) August 12th when I finished putting the girls to bed, I walked away and said 'That's the last time I'm going to be tucking my babies in.' I knew what was going to happen the day before and I did nothing to stop it! I was numb to the entire world. I had literally taken my kids to a birthday party, played with water balloons, had an amazing time, sang songs all the way home, gave them bath a shower, ate dinner, read bedtime stories and sang bedtime songs, and still nothing registered!! When Shanann had to be somewhere, I always enjoyed taking the girls places or playing outside because it was our opportunity to bond, and still the night before I couldn't stop myself from what I knew would occur the next morning.
2) August 13th, morning of, I went to the girls' room first, before Shanann and I had our argument. I went to Bella's room, then Cece's room and used a
pillow from their bed (to kill them). That's why the cause of death was smothering. After I left Cece's room, then I climbed back in bed with Shanann and our argument ensued. After Shanann had passed, Bella and Cece woke back up. I'm not sure how they woke back up, but they did. Bella's eyes were bruised and both girls looked like they had been through trauma. That made the act that much worse knowing I went to their rooms first and knowing I still took their lives at the location of the batteries.
3) The reason the medical examiner found oxycodone in Shanann's system is because I gave it to her. I thought it would be easier to be with Nichol if Shanann wasn't pregnant.
I don't know if this was a spiritual visit, but I had a dream Cece was dancing next to the chair in my cell. When she was dancing, all of my folders on the chair
started moving and I thought she was in trouble, so I said Watch out, get away, watch out! Then I woke up. I'm hoping she comes

Hey Jude said...

back! I hope everyone comes to visit me. I'm trying to see if I can clear my head better before I go to sleep to help.
I like that John 10:10 passage you sent. I wish I could've had an open ear to hear the Lord calling me back in June/July/August. If we run after sin, we won't hear our Shepherd calling us. I couldn't discern between the good spirits and the evil spirits and that eventually lodged me into a deep pit I couldn't climb back out of.
Take care and God Bless!
Chris

Autumn said...

OT: Chris Watts

These poor girls. It was already unbearable to think what they went through but now he's telling us he tried to murder them at home before killing them in cold blood in the oil field? They must have been so desperate and scared. What at disgustingly evil murder machine Chris Watts is. And I think Shanann knew that on some level. See for instance her following text (part of a longer text). On the surface she writes about the peanut ice cream incident but her words seem to reveal such a strong subconscious premonition:

"You can let them tell you what you want, but I didn't tell anyone to stop loving your kids, or stop acting like it. He did that not me. You can believe I created this dagger, but I didn't do that. I stood up for our kids, I advocated and protected our children. I don't ever want to hear l'm sorry I killed your kid because I was stupid. That would kill me.

These kids are my world and I have to protect them from the evil of the world. I shouldn't have to protect them from evil family. Our kids deserve the same love and attention the other kids get, nothing less. l'm not accepting, 'l'm sorry,' from your mom because she doesn't mean it and she knew what she was doing. "

Tania Cadogan said...

Hi John, Regarding Girl who claimed white classmates cut dreadlocks admits she made story up story.
I would be demanding she be prosecuted for hate crimes as should anyone claiming to have had a crime committed against them or their property based on their skin color, sexual orientation, religion or whatever.
Innocent people could have been prosecuted and fined or jailed, they could have lost their jobs, their reputations could be left in tatters because someone else a grudge against the other person/race/religion or currently if you are a republican or Trump supporter or wanting to make America great again .
Since when did wanting to make your country great again become a hate crime?
Wouldn't that make said person wanting to make America Worse?
Are the liberal left and democrats so screwed up that they hate their own country, a country which gives them the right to say such things where in other countries who the liberal left and democrats apparently want to be like would immediately slam them in jail for a very long time or execute them?

That is a no brainer and thus the expected for the loonie left.

At 12 she knows right from wrong and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for every possible charge she could face and have to serve time, the same length of time as if the assault and hate crime had taken place.