tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post1296616912913629837..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Anonymous Racist Hate Letter: Is it "Fake Hate" ?Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger317125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71783020287282969762018-12-15T06:55:18.895-05:002018-12-15T06:55:18.895-05:00Was there a solution to this?
RubyWas there a solution to this?<br /><br />RubyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63064536201038899072017-10-25T12:56:42.602-04:002017-10-25T12:56:42.602-04:00Could 'it' be the copy of the letter? The...Could 'it' be the copy of the letter? The writer says first that she hopes the recipient will make the girl 'aware she is not wanted.' If the letter has also been sent to the girl, she will already know that she is apparently not wanted by some parents, including the letter writer. Then she says 'I am sending her a copy as well' . If both letters were sent to the daycare, the owner would have the choice as to whether to pass on the copy to the girl - to 'make her aware she was not wanted' - or to make it disappear' - not give her the letter, so she would be unaware the letter had been written? <br /><br />I don't know - she said 'I am sending' rather than 'I have sent' - which could be intentional rather than that she had already sent it, or included a copy for the owner to pass on.<br /><br />Is it too much of a stretch to wonder if the owner herself had referred to the girl as 'NANNY' - and if the girl had overheard a conversation concerning her appearance, and if she had writtrn the letter in the knowledge that the owner would know only she was likely to have written it, due to the emphasis, upon the word 'Nanny'? <br /><br />Could it be a blackmail attempt, for a pay increase, which backfired - the writer anticipating the owner could just make the letter go away, pretend it did not exist, increase her pay, or pay her to go away, or otherwise have a 'racist' incident involving her daycare. It would create a bad situation for the owner, were she just to discard the letters - it would be impossible to continue working with the girl, if she were the writer, could it be that rather than give in to known or suspected blackmail, the family published the letter - the owner in the knowledge that the girl would not admit to writing it - the children possibly unaware their parent had offended the worker, giving her 'cause' to write the letter? <br /><br />---<br /><br />If it were the result of an overheard conversation involving the owner, or one in which the owner, or the writer had participated - it need not be the girl who had written the letter - it could be anyone who was aware of such a conversation, and who anticipated some hush money or favourable treatment from the owner, who would destroy the letter/s - but she did not destroy the letters. <br /><br />I can think a reason to publish the letter without regard to the girl's feelings would be a strong suspicion that the girl had written the letter herself because she had been called 'Nanny', and was looking for some recompense - they did not want to involve the police, were dealing with it 'internally' - can't think why they would do that, were it not to avoid a different type of embarrassment, such as having to admit that staff or owners really were making racist or personal comments about the girl's apoearance,<br /><br />IDK. Is the letter a repetition of insults overheard, which the owner would recognise had been made by her? <br /><br />--<br /><br />I don't think the owner wrote it - they have a successful business. Publishing it backfired as much as writing it...they have been in business for decades. Maybe published it to foil the writer because they didn't want to involve the police.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hey Judehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05118508358051764200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9887499228522076942017-10-25T00:57:01.489-04:002017-10-25T00:57:01.489-04:00IF it wasn't for the 'make it disappear...IF it wasn't for the 'make it disappear', I would think it most likely was the worker who wrote it herself. It would make sense if she is a good worker, who knows she is liked by the parents and children, but who feels unappreciated - she could be looking for affirmation from her boss and the parents. It would be a bizarre way to go about it, though, moreso if she had worked there for a fair time. Is she new? I think she might be a new member of staff, as the parents have apparently 'noticed' her, when that would be unnecessary to say if she had worked there for any length of time - they all would already know she worked there, and would have noticed that already. <br /><br />What is the 'it'? There doesn't seem to be an identifiable 'it'.<br /><br />I keep coming back to it, but it doesn't become obvious, whatever 'it' is. I think it can't be the mortgage, because mortgages don't disappear, they are paid off - only things which are visible 'disapear'. Hey Judehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05118508358051764200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-57827833094712441342017-10-23T14:28:23.456-04:002017-10-23T14:28:23.456-04:00A few things to consider...
the linguistic dispos...A few things to consider...<br /><br />the linguistic disposition towards blacks is "favorable." This is not a racist. <br /><br />Money is a factor. <br /><br /><br />Often in "fake hate" the recipient is the writer or very close to the writer. <br /><br />If you think the author may be male, could it be the worker's boyfriend? Or do you think the worker, herself wrote it?<br /><br />Or...<br /><br />is it some bizarre sympathy play due to money issues for the owner?Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-12810290868015780792017-10-23T12:51:09.843-04:002017-10-23T12:51:09.843-04:00I think it well could have been written by the bla...I think it well could have been written by the black employee. If it was the motive was probably financial. Perhaps she was hoping to somehow turn this fake hate into a lawsuit for discrimination.Lucia Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25161876824477617432017-10-23T00:51:24.421-04:002017-10-23T00:51:24.421-04:00I really have no idea who wrote it. How, if it w...I really have no idea who wrote it. How, if it was her, would the black girl benefit? What would be her motive - sympathy in being a minority, insecurity over her appearance, looking for affirmation from her employer and others, perhaps. <br /><br />With the additional information, I might think it was the daycare owner. From just the letter, and on reflection, I am not confident it was the girl. <br /><br />--<br />I so would like to know who wrote it. <br />Hey Judehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05118508358051764200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-74437307563410042192017-10-22T18:17:52.452-04:002017-10-22T18:17:52.452-04:00tania cadoganOctober 7, 2017 at 4:40 PM
The writer...<i>tania cadoganOctober 7, 2017 at 4:40 PM<br />The writer is female and black and has a good education in that she uses correct spelling and grammar with punctuation and capitalization appropriately.</i><br /><br />I count 10 errors in a letter that's not all that long. The most glaring is she doesn't know when to make sentence breaks in some of the sentences and they run on. Because of this, her reading level is likely below an 8th grade level. She's an adult, but not well educated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59538203809125725372017-10-22T16:33:49.510-04:002017-10-22T16:33:49.510-04:00Yes, or a collegue that she has said, looks like a...Yes, or a collegue that she has said, looks like a nanny.Lars Bakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08253803171290866811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46013049283182625482017-10-22T15:03:22.996-04:002017-10-22T15:03:22.996-04:00Yes.
she's not the first thing a child or the...Yes.<br /><br /><i>she's not the first thing a child or the parents want to see when <b>they</b> walk in to the daycare.</i><br /><br />That's where she tells us she's not a parent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-39152100121182978072017-10-22T13:20:17.579-04:002017-10-22T13:20:17.579-04:00Readers :
Do you think the black worker may have ...Readers :<br /><br />Do you think the black worker may have written this?<br /><br /><br /><br />Peter Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-44156298381540957152017-10-22T11:31:33.989-04:002017-10-22T11:31:33.989-04:00Do you see how the full court press of new (and ol...Do you see how the full court press of new (and older - but none before the months following 11/2015) characters led Peter to a position of defense?Bobcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53890798745739702142017-10-22T11:26:30.660-04:002017-10-22T11:26:30.660-04:00Malene 10/12 @ 2:23 exposed himself as a master of...Malene 10/12 @ 2:23 exposed himself as a master of creative trolling.<br /><br />Head done in, no doubt, all in an attempt to discredit SA.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />The reasons are given on 10/12 at 3:19 pm.<br /><br /><br /><br />Bobcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-26763065133053050312017-10-19T15:19:06.313-04:002017-10-19T15:19:06.313-04:00SNOPES knows that Donald Trump wrote it.
The abs...SNOPES knows that Donald Trump wrote it. <br /><br />The absurdity is how insane snopes is. <br /><br />They proved that No Go zones did not exist. <br /><br />They are leftist anti truth extremists. Everything they do has an agenda. <br /><br />Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-17579695436080068192017-10-19T15:09:23.984-04:002017-10-19T15:09:23.984-04:00SNOPES is all but a giveaway here.
The letter is...SNOPES is all but a giveaway here. <br /><br />The letter is "fake hate" and is not written by a concerned parent nor by a racist. <br /><br />I think most readers see this. <br /><br />Racism is ugly and threats are real. <br /><br />This is polite, has lots of choices, and is written to benefit the author. <br /><br />more to follow...including the author's gender and race. <br /><br /><br />Peter Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-10046473230872492352017-10-19T14:52:28.207-04:002017-10-19T14:52:28.207-04:00Why is it a police matter at all? Unless it's ...Why is it a police matter at all? Unless it's fraud.<br /><br />Snopes writer Kim Capria says<br /><br />"Although it is not uncommon for nasty letters and other controversies to be faked by social media users for attention or viral fame, this <b>appears</b> to be genuine"<br /><br />Does she seem confident it's a fake hate letter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53926073622754181492017-10-19T12:59:23.327-04:002017-10-19T12:59:23.327-04:00SNOPES says it is a genuine racist hate letter and...SNOPES says it is a genuine racist hate letter and the police chief has not seen something this offensive in 20 years <br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28226275078416073432017-10-19T01:34:16.057-04:002017-10-19T01:34:16.057-04:00One more point, Trudy: I agree about the tone of t...One more point, Trudy: I agree about the tone of the letter and that there is no threat. That's one of the main reasons it is not fake hate. In most fake hate examples, there is a threat: Charlie Rogers, Ricky Jones, and others harming themselves, garage doors with "kill the gays", rape threats, rape accusations. Relentlessly Gay wrote to herself "Keep it up and I will be forced to call the police on You!" The supposed threat of being fired in this recent letter above, the monetary threat implied in "we pay your mortgage". What percentage of these involve threat or faked physical assaults in an attempt to gain sympathy?:<br /><br />http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2016/05/fake-hate-examples.html?m=1<br /><br />On the letter to David, You said:<br /><i>"The letter has:<br />Polite and friendly use of first name, David, almost affectionate use of "boy" to describe David, soft language throughout, invitation to move to an area close by, and concern for the couple's comfort. It contains no swear words, no abusive language nor racial slurs and no threat, whatsoever."</i><br /><br />Exactly! That's why it's different from fake hate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63959335009946868772017-10-18T18:12:34.952-04:002017-10-18T18:12:34.952-04:00Sorry, you did refer to language in the letter, bu...Sorry, you did refer to language in the letter, but the points made indicate a familiarity with them, not an intention to gain sympathy and increased business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-24159277087283027052017-10-18T17:58:21.696-04:002017-10-18T17:58:21.696-04:00You are describing how they used the letter to the...You are describing how they used the letter to their benefit, which I admit they did. Your evidence is media coverage of the letter, not the language used by the writer of the letter. I'm analyzing only the letter itself, which makes no mention of or allusion to the business or their roles as business owners, which I would expect if their purpose <i> in writing the letter</i> was to gain sympathy and customers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-17648931974688882662017-10-18T17:25:18.796-04:002017-10-18T17:25:18.796-04:00The letter has:
Polite and friendly use of first n...The letter has:<br />Polite and friendly use of first name, David, almost affectionate use of "boy" to describe David, soft language throughout, invitation to move to an area close by, and concern for the couple's comfort. It contains no swear words, no abusive language nor racial slurs and no threat, whatsoever.<br /><br />Every single news article about this hoax hate letter featured a big picture of David and his wife outside their Sweet Ice shop, with the name of the shop prominently displayed. Every single news article referred to the location of the shop and the fact that it had opened two months prior to receiving the note. <br /><br />The follow up articles in newspapers and online (every single one) feted the couple for their loving spirits and courage and triumphantly claimed that the hate letter had increased business for the Sweet Ice shop - and repeated the name and location of the shop. <br /><br />Cui Bono? David, his wife and Sweet Ice.Trudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-1307177181447455902017-10-18T15:28:16.503-04:002017-10-18T15:28:16.503-04:00ask yourself Cui Bono
I did and I addressed it in...<i>ask yourself Cui Bono</i><br /><br />I did and I addressed it in my comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47631645764463122542017-10-17T23:41:56.353-04:002017-10-17T23:41:56.353-04:00Peter. Would you please post your conclusion (23 ...Peter. Would you please post your conclusion (23 rd June 2015 on this blog) about the letter sent to David and Wani Shaw of the Sweet Ice Co. Birmingham? Is it fake hate mail? Thank you. <br /><br />Anonymous - ask yourself Cui Bono.Trudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-47208129377561087542017-10-17T21:33:54.422-04:002017-10-17T21:33:54.422-04:00Peter did not. He presented the letter, made some ...Peter did not. He presented the letter, made some analysis without conclusion and asked us to state our conclusions and said his was forthcoming, but he never posted it. <br /><br />There was sample of David's speech and writing. I'm trained to determine the educational level of text. The person who wrote the letter is much less educated and doesn't read (or write) at the same educational level as David. The anonymous letter shows no signs of trying to mask the educational level of the writer. David didn't write it.<br /><br />The letter is different from other anonymous letters questioned here as fake hate. It is much more personal; the writer knows David and has for some time. The writer is disappointed in David choosing a black woman as his wife. The writer suggests he move to California but doesn't mean that literally as he quickly suggests a black neighborhood nearby in Birmingham. He's disappointed but conflicted in his "rejection". The California reference is meant as an insult for David's progressive values. The writer is older than David, likely a baby boomer or slightly older. The business itself isn't on the mind of the writer as it is never referred to. It's personal. Just as analysis of Ronda Copes' letter revealed marbles about her desire to leave the neighborhood as a motive, just as this letter ("black girl") shows money and sympathy of peers is leaked, if the letter sent to David were about his business, that would have leaked out. Now, to think of David and his wife as opportunistic for posting it in reference to the business is fair, but that's different from saying he wrote it. I could even believe it's an old letter David previously received and he pulled it out to use for gain, but he didn't write it.<br /><br />I'm Not sure who did write it but scrolling through David's family members' Facebook pages- his father has an unexpected attitude towards David's (multiracial) children, his own grandchildren. He's certainly less educated than David and more "conservative" (culturally, not necessarily politically). He's my <i>guess</i> as the writer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25994064633565073252017-10-17T17:53:29.249-04:002017-10-17T17:53:29.249-04:00My attitude? I couldn't care less if he wrote...My attitude? I couldn't care less if he wrote it or not. The fact is he that did write it himself and it is a fake hate letter. I'm pretty sure that Peter analysed it, too, and came to the same conclusion. David wrote the letter.Trudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-87538385625697468882017-10-17T02:55:22.224-04:002017-10-17T02:55:22.224-04:00Nope, it was too personal. If it were written inte...Nope, it was too personal. If it were written intending to boost business, it would have referred to the business, not his personal choices. In that, it's very different from all the fake hate letters we've seen.<br /><br />The choice to share it after receiving it is not proof he wrote it. I can see from your attitude about him you really want it to have been him, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com