tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post160246756888856746..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Video: The Murder of Amanda Blackburn Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger253125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36822227471461951002015-11-21T15:49:27.451-05:002015-11-21T15:49:27.451-05:00Sus,
RE: The fragility of a new church, and what ...Sus,<br /><br />RE: The fragility of a new church, and what that looks like.<br /><br />New church (bride) could be code for new relationship.<br /><br />CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63263502052705702852015-11-21T15:27:27.353-05:002015-11-21T15:27:27.353-05:00Peter has a new post up, so this thread will be co...Peter has a new post up, so this thread will be continuing there, but I wanted to add one more excerpt here from the Worship As a Weapon piece before I step away from the computer.<br /><br />Note the shift at approx. 30:00 from DB talking about the battles that God fights for us, to the battles that we need to fight on our own. This section on relationship follows within a minute or so. To set the stage, he is acting the part of his congregation member, imploring God to fight his (supplicant's) battles for him:<br /><br />"Well God, what about that, what about, what about that, that relationship; she made, she said that thing to me, made me so mad. Fight the battle! Do the judgment thing, BAM! DO IT! (Hammering motion) <br /><br />There’s a verse in Psalms that says “break the teeth of my enemies,” right? That’s what you feel like. What about that?<br /><br />God’s going, um, yeah, I already told you that you needed, you needed t–. you needed to release bitterness in your heart and, and go and approach her and forgive her for what she said. That’s your battle to fight, that’s not mine. <br /><br />*******<br /><br />Davey has just projected his rage on his (fictional) worshipper. <br /><br />It's that guy in the audience whom Davey is roleplaying who feels like picking up a hammer and smashing in the teeth of the woman he is in a relationship with. That woman who said something he did not like hearing. <br /><br />Not Davey.<br /><br />This is shocking, and dismaying, to hear, anywhere, not just in church.<br /><br />http://resonateindianapolis.com/front-page/podcasts/<br />CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18975404297518373982015-11-21T15:27:20.452-05:002015-11-21T15:27:20.452-05:00I have no problem with a double wedding since my m...I have no problem with a double wedding since my mom and her younger sister had a double wedding.<br /><br />For some it is simply down to cost, for others it is a way of sharing their happiness, especially if a larger family with a lot of daughters all getting engaged at the same time.<br /><br />A double wedding is memorable simply because it is not that common.<br />My mom and her sister were in the paper as it was uncommon.<br />Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-6198646722411653192015-11-21T15:23:11.646-05:002015-11-21T15:23:11.646-05:00Something else Davey said in the video talking abo...Something else Davey said in the video talking about marriage as a sex fest was how when he has been on a business trip band he comes home he is only thinking of one thing but he found out you can't do a "boob grab" and get started... You have to listen to her day...<br /><br />As a happily married middle aged woman, the boob grab part of truly offensive because sex in marriage (especially 7+ years into it) is about intimacy and connection and healing and very much an emotional coming together to be one person. Not a boob grab wham bam thank you mam. And he didnt just say women need to have sex even when they don't want to.. They have to fully participate. He wants the porn star performance. It reminds me of Michelle Duggar telling wives they have to be "joyfully available" for sex even when they don't want to because they husband will go look for it in another woman if they don't.<br /><br />Damn them and their men will be boys mentality. Why would you want to have sex with your wife if she has to put on a performance because shie is tired and needs to go to bed? HELP your wife and help yourself and when she is relaxed and wants to, have sex. <br /><br />Its just another reminder that not only did this poor girl get no help from him at home (he probably avoided home like the plague) but also she was likely emotionally manipulated into submitting to him (sex) when all she wanted was his presence at home and his full attention to her and weston.<br /><br />I have no doubt her life with him was sad and miserable. <br /><br />Signed, Ham<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-61821107598950180652015-11-21T15:07:34.794-05:002015-11-21T15:07:34.794-05:00Oh, ok. Thanks, CJ.
Looking at his sermon, there a...Oh, ok. Thanks, CJ.<br />Looking at his sermon, there are some striking points. <br /><br />As John says, priority is important. The first worry he mentions is "you're not going to show up to this church. <br /><br />He repeats "the future of this church." Repeating it makes it even more sensitive to him. <br /><br />Then he says something very strange. Actually two things.<br />"I worry about my future."<br />Only MY. This is beyond strange when he has a wife, son, church, and is about to announce his wife's pregnancy. He sees only his future, without them.<br /><br />Add to that. "I worry about Th th th th th fragility of of a new church and wh wh what that looks like."<br />He is showing much agitation about a new church. He has changed reality from THIS church to A church. <br /><br />I wonder if he was under pressure to get his church going or Perry Noble was dropping support? I would so love to know the answer to that.Susnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-1979982175695828082015-11-21T14:30:36.297-05:002015-11-21T14:30:36.297-05:00Sus,
"Spouses" and "popularity&quo...Sus,<br /><br />"Spouses" and "popularity" originated with me. The note is not entirely legible. I took it into Photoshop to zoom in close, but am not 100% sure about spouses and popularity. (Looking again, I wondered if I read "pregnancy" as "popularity." DB still has the photo on his Twitter feed of Oct. 14, you can look for yourself).<br /><br />Frankly, listening to the Worship As Weapon sermon was the first time all my alarms got tripped. (I would go so far as to say this sermon, in it's entirety, is the Rosetta Stone for interpreting the language of all of Davey's statements and interviews post-murder).<br /><br />The church is the bride of Christ. Davey is worrying about the future of THIS church (bride) and a NEW church (bride).<br /><br />Here, Davy does not express worry about Amanda's future, Amanda's kids, or Amanda's fragility.<br /><br />He worries about EVERYTHING when his "spouse" is pregnant.<br />CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2432747167640646912015-11-21T14:29:49.604-05:002015-11-21T14:29:49.604-05:00He wants to be the next Mark Driscoll. It's gr...He wants to be the next Mark Driscoll. It's gross. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-55975543470188641642015-11-21T14:19:00.637-05:002015-11-21T14:19:00.637-05:00Anonymous @ 11:20 said:
Davey Blackburn isn'...Anonymous @ 11:20 said:<br /><br /> Davey Blackburn isn't highly intelligent, talented, good-looking, or charismatic. He's not a psychopath; psychopaths are good liars. Immature, backward, uneducated, small-townish... just a few words I would use to describe him. Also: ambitious, egotistical, dishonest. But not "fascinating" "intelligent" "talented" and so on. PUH-LEASE! <br /><br />I totally agree! I would add he's selfish and thoughtless. So sad for Amanda and so sad for Weston and all the people who truly love them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80153929783519536612015-11-21T14:16:04.905-05:002015-11-21T14:16:04.905-05:00John Mcgowan,
RE: "If that is the case, i wo...John Mcgowan,<br /><br />RE: "If that is the case, i would expect to hear him say "And finally and most important, my Kids"<br /><br />I agree.<br /><br />I'm new to SA. When I read your first post I immediately wondered if order=priority still applies when one is analyzing a prepared script, vs. off the cuff interview, and so I went back to look at the sermon notes to see if and how the list had changed.<br /><br />Unfortunately the notes aren't entirely legible, but "Kids" in the #1 spot suggested to me that DB knew that Amanda was pregnant again when he planned this sermon.<br /><br />What I find unexpected in the birth announcement:<br /><br />1. No mention of Amanda's name<br />2. Use of singular pronouns where I would expect plural pronouns: "MY future," "My kids."<br />3. Order of priorities: Kids at the bottom, Wife doesn't make the list<br />4. Related to order of priorities, a priority I wouldn't expect: a new church, and:<br />5. ...excessive stuttering, when introducing the topic of "a new church" and its "fragility" and "what it looks like."<br /><br />Related to #4 and 5, is the new church he is talking about Resonate Indy? Could Resonate, at three years out from planting, be considered new? Could it be considered fragile? If he is talking about Resonate, why bring it up again? He has already included "the future of THIS church (Resonate)" in his list, why return?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-81063961084418194762015-11-21T14:14:54.861-05:002015-11-21T14:14:54.861-05:00Exactly!!Exactly!!Susnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-66273589821411997272015-11-21T14:10:39.002-05:002015-11-21T14:10:39.002-05:00Re Pastor Davey's pregnancy sermon:
He origina...Re Pastor Davey's pregnancy sermon:<br />He originally had "popularity" as a worry on his notes. And it was pretty high up there. <br /><br />He also had spouses (plural) which he must have taken out. <br /><br />Another thought I keep having. LE says a neighbor saw the potential suspect moving from the first burglarized home to the Blackburns. Someone in the same neighbor's home saw the same person moving away from the Blackburn home. I'm presuming over a half hour later given the timeline. Why didn't these neighbors check it out? Call police? Ok, point blank, I'm questioning that statement.Susnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-60467799145924504772015-11-21T14:09:15.341-05:002015-11-21T14:09:15.341-05:00Lol - shouldn't laughter, but that is funny. I...Lol - shouldn't laughter, but that is funny. I went there a few times when DeOrr was the main subject of discussion - it seemed to be a bunch of adolescents arguing endlessly and earnestly over mountain lions. There's loyalty/dedication for you - I can't imagine how bored out of their minds they must have been by page 300.Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-82904653032258014232015-11-21T14:07:42.278-05:002015-11-21T14:07:42.278-05:00Following this for days. First post.
As far as t...Following this for days. First post. <br /><br />As far as the "Worship as Weapon" video - does anybody else wonder if he is grooming someone in the audience to carry out a plan he has discussed with that person? He's practically acting out how to justify shooting someone in the name of worship. Is there someone so enthralled with him - so obsessed - that they would do this for him? The shooting, if I have the timeline right, was two days later. Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46287730690456115282015-11-21T14:06:50.338-05:002015-11-21T14:06:50.338-05:00from upcoming article:
The following is somethi...from upcoming article:<br /><br /><br /><br />The following is something you have to ask yourself, whether or not police connect Blackburn to the shooter: <br /><br />Is it just a coincidence that a man driven to succeed in ministry could repeatedly complain about his marriage, attribute pregnancy to its decline, show off a gun as a theatrical prop in a sermon, have his wife shot with a gun while being pregnant and have his language focus primarily on his ministry rather than her?Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20316968025022399602015-11-21T13:55:34.191-05:002015-11-21T13:55:34.191-05:00Bovine and swine will stop up the sinuses.Bovine and swine will stop up the sinuses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36566700083947210742015-11-21T13:41:25.186-05:002015-11-21T13:41:25.186-05:00Some bossy cow named Bessie is the chief bitch at ...Some bossy cow named Bessie is the chief bitch at Websleuths. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-83556164409552726102015-11-21T13:30:48.073-05:002015-11-21T13:30:48.073-05:00Anonymous - YES agree!! The double wedding photos ...Anonymous - YES agree!! The double wedding photos are STRANGE! It seemed the wedding was a performance for everyone. (Did you see the photos on her sister's Facebook?)Sharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45173431675665346392015-11-21T13:27:00.748-05:002015-11-21T13:27:00.748-05:00Cj - the clip,I saw is not from the video,- Davey ...Cj - the clip,I saw is not from the video,- Davey had his back to the audience, and turned round to shoot at a young man's back -- he was not front-facing and did not have the guy to the side of him - it seemed more like an attempt at a drama sketch - that's what I thought and wrote at the time. I think it was another event, a rehearsal perhaps, and he was probably advised to tone it down - I was surprised to see the video version, it seemed half-hearted by comparison. Perhaps he did get how inappropriate it was but still went ahead anyway, because it was necessary to something, in his mind.Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-55207895726933504612015-11-21T13:24:42.343-05:002015-11-21T13:24:42.343-05:00Keep us posted Peter on new news... Ive been follo...Keep us posted Peter on new news... Ive been following this and its disturbing if the husband is behind it. I find it really creepy that. He and Amanda had a DOUBLE WEDDING. as if weddings are some kind of casual birthday party you might throw with your neighbor to keep down costs. A DOUBLE WEDDING???????? Ewwww. I would say that was Daveys idea and he convinced the others it would be AWESOME. he turned the vows in front of God into almost a joke by doing a "double wedding". This guy is text book definition of psychopath. I think he is 100 percent the mastermind behind her death. And he may have had help from the obese babysitter. I mean, why would he EVER ask a woman other than his WIFE to go buy him a JOCK STRAP??!! He asked the obese babysitter to buy him a jock strap so she would have to stand in the underwear isle, imagining his penis, and how big it is. Just WRONG. on EVERY LEVEL. Hey Davey, and Obese babysitter, if youre both reading this, you are both going to pay for all eternity. And Davey just because you spew out memorized Scripture doesnt mean youre Saved. You know what the bible says, it says EVEN THE DEMONS KNOW THE SCRIPTURES AND TREMBLE. oh and another thing the bible says Davey.... VENGEANCE IS MINE.. I WILL REPAY....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36580751671912296802015-11-21T13:21:29.532-05:002015-11-21T13:21:29.532-05:00I used to follow Webseluths, but they have changed...I used to follow Webseluths, but they have changed to NO tolerance of discussing, for example a husband with a murdered wife, unless he has been charged, etc. I don't follow Webseluths anymore b/c the silencing of participants instincts has prevented open dialog. <br /><br />The comment dialog here is very thoughtful, IMO. Refreshing to see.Sharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-8550700078941612962015-11-21T13:14:14.174-05:002015-11-21T13:14:14.174-05:00Blogger Jen Ow said… What he is doing isn't p...Blogger Jen Ow said… What he is doing isn't preaching,<br /><br />You got that right.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-16398250209818505022015-11-21T13:05:29.426-05:002015-11-21T13:05:29.426-05:00Peter @ 1:03
Good postPeter @ 1:03<br /><br />Good postlyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493739512074677263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-70585765435176191352015-11-21T13:03:10.429-05:002015-11-21T13:03:10.429-05:00In regards to the reward..an "insider" t...In regards to the reward..an "insider" told us that Amandas parents wanted to give a 10K reward but LE advised them against it because it could interfere with their investigation because all the crackpots would be calling in and they have to investigate EVERY lead that comes in. That tells me LE is focused on who the killer really is and don't want to be diverted to chasing leads that have nothing to really offer. <br /><br />Amber, Amanda's sister, may not be crazy but there is something underlying her comments and "letters". At best, she's magically thinking because when someone is taken off life support because they're brain dead..there is no look of joy. There is nothing, no facial expression at all. They're mouths are hanging open, most times their eyes are open just a slit but you can only see cloudiness and a glazing. Death is not pretty. Your bowels and bladder release, it's very UNdignified. This whole movement about dying with dignity always was baffling to me because it is so undignified and messy. Horrible way to remember someone is as they die. You LIVE with dignity, not die. Amber just seems to be all about how her and Davey feel, what her and Davey did, her and DAvey, her and Davey, it's a little off-putting IMO.lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493739512074677263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-49788358142292507692015-11-21T13:03:05.370-05:002015-11-21T13:03:05.370-05:00Someone wrote that an on line group that 'inve...Someone wrote that an on line group that 'investigates' crime has made the husband of murder victim, Amanda Blackburn "off limits" for discussion of possible guilt, even though statistics point to the husband or boyfriend of a murdered pregnant woman. This is to say: You may investigate it, but only if you throw out statistics, reason, and potential. Other than that, discuss away! If someone disagrees? Perhaps they, too, suffer from moral depravity and mental illness.<br /><br />Ideas, freely exchanged, are the life blood of an investigation. "Thinking outside the box" should never preclude examining the box first, and then more tangents, with the circle widening as one goes along. If the husband is cleared of any association, the ignorance may self-congratulate itself to even greater ignorance.<br /><br />The analysis is posted publicly which means experts in many fields may not simply read it, but challenge it, including federal investigators, retired investigators, insurance investigators, English professors, psychologists, criminologists and academia in general.Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71141964385902474632015-11-21T12:59:08.209-05:002015-11-21T12:59:08.209-05:00Some random comments:
*I'm becoming increasing...Some random comments:<br />*I'm becoming increasingly troubled and grieved about this awful ordeal. I keep thinking about how inconsolable that poor baby must have been, and may still be, with the abrupt disappearance of his mother. That adorable little face (and hers!)leave no doubt of the deep bond of love between those two!<br /><br />*Looking down the road here--If either set of grandparents suspects CD, they'd be wise to keep it under wraps and speak very privately only with detectives. Even if media and other family members ask their opinion, I think all four parents should bite their tongues if they have to and merely say something neutral such as, "We just have to trust police and detectives to sort this out and find the killer." After all, nothing can bring back their daughter and D-I-L now. If CD is innocent, they all risk permanent estrangement from that little boy AND a torn-apart family. If his father is innocent, then the baby needs to grow up with the security of knowing that his grandparents did not spout off their questions/suspicions. If he IS guilty and ends up being convicted, then justice will play out and, hopefully, do right by that baby. I know it's not always that simple. (Just saying that I've more often regretted what I've said more than what I HAVEN'T said.)<br /><br />*I was curious about why no childhood pics of A.B. in the memorial service. <br /><br />*Someone mentioned the tweets(?) about CD wanting 60 more years with her, along with his comments about their 7th year of marriage. In one message, he said something about marriage and the #7 being "perfection." (Is this their 7th year?) Maybe it's just me, but do great marriages have to be CONSTANTLY advertised? People who have great marriages simply LIVE them. They don't invite the world to be voyeurs about their every intimate struggle and their every temptation! By the way, it must have crushed A.B. to hear her husband speak of his temptations regarding other women. Was he aware that maybe SHE had "temptations," too, like towards quiet godly men who didn't feel the need to act like a game show host or carnival barker in front of the church?Indigonoreply@blogger.com