tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post2498465819898990..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Rule: No One Can Lie Twice Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45734603714843870152015-09-04T05:07:11.507-04:002015-09-04T05:07:11.507-04:00Note to above: reliable denial as in'i didnt @...Note to above: reliable denial as in'i didnt @@@@', and 'no i didnt' when asked specifically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-35783643669175237002015-09-04T04:41:58.917-04:002015-09-04T04:41:58.917-04:00Question, if someone repearedly gives à reliable d...Question, if someone repearedly gives à reliable denial over time as in 'i didnt do it', and when asked 'Why should i believe you?' Answers 'i Dont know, Thats à question for you not me', 'i Dont know, because Thats what people do, they believe eachother'. And after à longer time gets tired and angry and says 'i dont know, maybe you shouldn't'. Basically, tje answer repeatedly is 'i Dont know'. Does it nullify the reliable denial over time or how should it be concluded?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-34110485703793357772012-09-24T19:37:58.502-04:002012-09-24T19:37:58.502-04:00Thanks Hobnob!Thanks Hobnob!MissUnderstoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28321426398453492512012-09-24T02:47:05.270-04:002012-09-24T02:47:05.270-04:00I grew up with a mother that lied about everything...I grew up with a mother that lied about everything. Usually it was how she was a victim..... of rape, hit by a car, Fired for being a woman, etc... <br /><br />Even if you had solid proof and held in front of her face.. She would stand by her lie either by turning it back on me/them with "you forged that, u must have blocked out the tragic memory (her fav) or your crazy" or most common would be to go off on a tangent about something else... Often more lies about anything to divert the attention.. Most her life it worked. Like you get so wrapped up in this next story you forget what you addressed at first. <br /><br />I see it in business all the time. Someone will ask a direct question about a task, get 20 mins of babble and then somehow be impressed by the person despite getting no actual answer to the question. <br /><br />So....after years with my mom, I really became aware of that inability to just directly answer direct questions but statement analysis has brought such a deeper understanding for me. <br /><br />It has taken the frustration out of "why did they not answer that question" where now I just instinctively realize they are lying or really don't know the answer but are trying to make everyone believe. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22250235314040794212012-09-23T18:19:00.711-04:002012-09-23T18:19:00.711-04:00Hi C5H11ONO
C5H11ONOSeptember 23, 2012 1:13 PM
Wh...Hi C5H11ONO<br /><br /><b>C5H11ONOSeptember 23, 2012 1:13 PM<br />What if they say, "i didn't lie", which is also first person, past tense and event specific?</b><br /><br />Anything in the negative is sensitive.<br />It is not event specific as you have written it <br /><b>"I didn't lie"</b> ... about what?<br />Instead of telling us what they didn't do they should tell us what they did do.<br />If they said, as an example, "I didn't lie about taking the money"<br />I would ask "What did you lie about?"<br /><br />Also what is their definition of lie?<br />Do they mean making up something?<br />Do they mean ommitting something?<br /><br /> This is why it is so important to listen to what the subject is telling us.<br />we are listening to not only what they are saying, we are also listening to what they aren't saying.<br /><br />I hope this makes sense.<br />Tania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32498372203189115472012-09-23T18:04:04.310-04:002012-09-23T18:04:04.310-04:00MissUnderstoodSeptember 23, 2012 6:45 AM
What abou...<b>MissUnderstoodSeptember 23, 2012 6:45 AM<br />What about "it's the truth", or "that's the truth"?<br /><br />For example:<br /><br />Person 1 says: "I don't believe you"<br /><br />Person 2 says: "It's the truth" (and maybe adds in "I don't care if you don't believe me")<br /><br />Is using "it" distancing, and not specific? Or is the statement just not reliable, but not yet deceptive, and more questions should be asked?</b><br /><br />Hi Missunderstood.<br /><br /><b>IT</b> is distancing<br />They don't tell us what IT is so we can't assume. <br />We look for first person singular event specific<br /><br />The truth could be that their name is bill bloggs, their age, their address and so on.<br />My next question if they said "It's the truth" would be What is the truth?<br />I would pin them down to specifcs.<br />I would make sure i phrased the question so they had to provide the specifics, any reply would be checked to ee if it was a reflection of what was asked - reflected language.<br />I would also be looking for qualifiers, dos the sentence work if additional words are used?<br />What additional words were used?<br />Were the qualifiers from free editing or reflected language?<br /><br />Remember also tis is close, tht is distancing.<br />I would be looking to see if this or that, these or those etc show up and where. Are they free editing or reflected.<br /><br />If in doubt the interviewer can always ask another question or more to seek clarity.<br />Liars will skip around the answer or lie, they don't like being pinned down to a specific sentence.<br />We can also go on to ask question not related to the sensitive area and then come back to it, phrasing it differently to see if the answer is consistent or not and if it changed, how it changed, what words, tenses, pronouns.<br /><br />As the interviewer we are not limited to a set number of questions, we can and must seek clarification, what they meant when they said words such as it, they, those and so on.<br />We let the subject guide us and from their responseswe can ask another question that is more specific, we let them guide us in what to ask<br />We ask a question<br />They answer<br />Our next question is now based on what they told us and so onTania Cadoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06511272355142175684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-80439062836597989852012-09-23T16:13:19.811-04:002012-09-23T16:13:19.811-04:00What if they say, "i didn't lie", wh...What if they say, "i didn't lie", which is also first person, past tense and event specific?C5H11ONOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01081979197453633522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18522035785644108322012-09-23T13:57:14.201-04:002012-09-23T13:57:14.201-04:00In Dewani's case they will make certain that t...In Dewani's case they will make certain that the rule of 3's remain true as they will let the triggerman go if he testifies against Dewani. Four minus ONE equals 3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-27340745247156220422012-09-23T13:57:09.372-04:002012-09-23T13:57:09.372-04:00I don't know if this answers your question but...I don't know if this answers your question but it made me think of a specific part of CA interrogation in 'her office @ Universal', she tells her lies and then the detectives are confronting her with the fact that she has lied, lied, lied about her job, where she dropped her daughter off, ect & how is lying supposed to help them find Caylee. She says 'I've told you the truth', but then follows with..'I legitimately haven't seen my daughter for 31 days...I don't want anything to happen to her'..(paraphrased). I'm pretty sure she says it a few times with different qualifiers, like...'I have told the truth, the last time I saw my daughter was when I dropped her off w/ ZFG' or something close to that. I'm not sure if that puts her in the small percentage who will lie 2x because she does explain what she is being 'truthful' about, but she is lying about that too! I swear, I think Casey Anthony is lying sociopath that could keep scores of forensic psychologists busy for centuries!Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-77279234804372979572012-09-23T13:54:35.902-04:002012-09-23T13:54:35.902-04:00Casey already had Zanny scripted as she or a membe...Casey already had Zanny scripted as she or a member of her team researched her from the apt. records.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-81000855979445635022012-09-23T13:12:12.936-04:002012-09-23T13:12:12.936-04:00Peter two questions:
1. How does this principle w...Peter two questions:<br /><br />1. How does this principle work with fantasy v. reality? Suppose Casey in her rich make-believe life handed off Caylee to Zanny. Would she still be unable to lie- does her brain detect the difference between her make-believe world and reality?<br /><br />2. On a similar note, what happens when a person is delusional or has a delusional episode? Does that override this principle?Forever Curiousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-21959476117615965992012-09-23T11:37:47.738-04:002012-09-23T11:37:47.738-04:00Speaking of discernment, did Sierra Lamar's mo...Speaking of discernment, did Sierra Lamar's mother take a polygraph? Did she pass it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-17358545301275001412012-09-23T11:17:27.268-04:002012-09-23T11:17:27.268-04:00After reading some transcripts of MacDonald-after ...After reading some transcripts of MacDonald-after first hearing about him on this blog-I found myself laughing out loud when reading the Army interviewers assessment of him. In one, the guy repeatedly states that his notetaking isn't up to par. Another goes on to claim the man was disillusioned with the Army. Doh!<br /><br />In one part he claims he didn't know he was a suspect into he went to CID, several months later, to inquire about what was going on with his case. Then he was read his rights. Lol!<br /><br />It's like if you ask anything of us you must expect to be incarcerated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-65925495768368713242012-09-23T11:01:09.205-04:002012-09-23T11:01:09.205-04:00For me the best part about this article is the las...For me the best part about this article is the last section on.<br /><br />LOCKING INTO AN ANSWER.<br /><br />This is for me a great too to have in my deception detection box.<br /><br />When i think about it,it really is a sneaky way to get round answering the question.<br /><br />Clever very clever.John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20417958719853473242012-09-23T10:03:54.866-04:002012-09-23T10:03:54.866-04:00Thanks.
Peter.Thanks.<br /><br />Peter.John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-88334024939829750832012-09-23T10:00:28.626-04:002012-09-23T10:00:28.626-04:00John,
It is used in the questionnaire which was ...John, <br /><br />It is used in the questionnaire which was tested by the army's internal investigations versus the polygraph with exact results. If someone denies an activity (falsely) they will not be able to refer back to their denial and lie about it saying, "I told the truth" about it. They might say "I tell the truth" r "I don't lie" but not in the easy, reliable formula. <br /><br />It has taken me a long time to digest this and get a sense of "ownership" of it. <br /><br />I have always believed it, and attempted to use it in interviewing, but lately the clarity has been getting stronger for me. <br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-68239847020766098582012-09-23T09:57:53.238-04:002012-09-23T09:57:53.238-04:00Miss Understood,
I find this to be a remarkable p...Miss Understood,<br /><br />I find this to be a remarkable phenomena and would like to learn more about the Talmudic teaching that it originated from. I already know that Avinoam Sapir (LSI) is rare genius in his power of observation and critical thinking, but what of the rabbis that made this original observation?<br /><br />I can take a principle and do a lot of research, immediately, on line by getting transcripts. I can also, more slowly, apply principles on the job, but what of the ancient rabbis?<br /><br />It is an amazing principle. <br /><br />Peter Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-73905275145909406822012-09-23T09:51:21.263-04:002012-09-23T09:51:21.263-04:00John,
"I didn't kill #####" is usu...John, <br /><br />"I didn't kill #####" is usually reliable, because it uses "I" first person singular, "didn't" past tense, "kill #####" specific action and name. But if someone was that good of a liar, then yes, I assume they would not be able to lie 2x about the event. Idk though for sure, hopefully someone with more experience can weigh in. MissUnderstoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38881708312930853712012-09-23T09:45:42.686-04:002012-09-23T09:45:42.686-04:00What about "it's the truth", or &quo...What about "it's the truth", or "that's the truth"?<br /><br />For example:<br /><br />Person 1 says: "I don't believe you"<br /><br />Person 2 says: "It's the truth" (and maybe adds in "I don't care if you don't believe me")<br /><br />Is using "it" distancing, and not specific? Or is the statement just not reliable, but not yet deceptive, and more questions should be asked?MissUnderstoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-46352816792251058452012-09-23T09:35:55.244-04:002012-09-23T09:35:55.244-04:00Peter,
So let me try to some up.
If person says ...Peter,<br /><br />So let me try to some up.<br /><br />If person says "I didnt Kill #####" and we know it to be a lie.<br /><br />They will not lie on top of that by saying "I told the truth"<br /><br />Is that what your saying?<br /><br />ThanksJohn Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.com