tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post3556156222275391394..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Did Tom Brokaw Sexually Assault Linda Vester?Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-40821188375778071472018-04-29T12:00:08.917-04:002018-04-29T12:00:08.917-04:00http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/tom-brokaw-sexual-...http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/tom-brokaw-sexual-harassment-nbc-news-correspondent-1202789627/<br /><br /><br />The video differs from the statement, which was compiled from a number of sources. <br /><br />Linda Vester's allegation is that she was groped and assaulted - she doesn't say she was sexually assaulted by Tom Brokaw - she says she was assaulted and traumatised, suffering greater PTSD than when covering traumatising news events. For what she says happened, it might seem an over-reaction, as nothing sexual seems to have occurred - yet his intention was plain. If she is an adult victim of CSA, an uninvited person entering her home, and acting as he did would, IMO, be likely to put her in a state of mind similar to that she felt when she was victimised as a child. He is an 'authority' figure in her professional life who has invited himself into her personal life and space. She reacts to his presence in a childlike manner, obediently bringing him a drink, sitting beside him when he pats the sofa, etc. It's sad, as she was a brave young reporter who was able to cover tough news stories, yet Tom Brokaw's presence in her apartment reduces her to a near nervous wreck.<br /><br />I don't know if he sexually assaulted her - I go with her own description, which is that he groped and assaulted her, made plain his intention for 'an affair', and that she was deeply traumatised by the uninvited attention. Was there more that she did not include? Putting his hands on her waist and 'tickling' her does not sound enough to be 'groping', but I don't know what her definition of 'groping' is. <br /><br />Hey Judehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05118508358051764200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45761371655848898732018-04-28T11:40:59.030-04:002018-04-28T11:40:59.030-04:00"was hired (at) NBC News to be groomed as a f..."was hired (at) NBC News to be groomed as a foreign correspondent."<br /><br />That's verbatim her Wikipedia entry as well as from this statement, except "at" is "by". There are a few other statements that are close except Wikipedia is active voice and her statement is passive voice. The career portion of her Wikipedia entry starts with the details about CBS. The Wikipedia entry has many similar details, and others not in the statement, but one connecting her to the Catholic Pope is not included.<br /><br />I wonder if there any evidence in the statement of editing or preparation by an outside source, like we saw with Allred in the Moore accusers statement.<br />Zekenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-43511874047831639822018-04-28T10:26:00.626-04:002018-04-28T10:26:00.626-04:00OT Update:
Sidney and Tammy Moorer indicted on ki...OT Update:<br /><br /><b>Sidney and Tammy Moorer indicted on kidnapping charges</b><br /><br />Sidney and Tammy Moorer were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit kidnapping on Friday, according to online court records.<br /><br />It's unclear if the charges are related to the disappearance of Heather Elvis, who was 20 years old when she disappeared in 2013. The two indictments are associated with different court case numbers than the charges which resulted in a deadlocked jury during Sidney Moorer's kidnapping trial in the summer of 2016. A retrial date has not been set, according to online court records.<br /><br />Moorer's wife, Tammy, also was charged with kidnapping in relation to Elvis' disappearance, and the trial date has not been set, according to online court records. Her indictment Friday also was under a different court case number than her original kidnapping charge.<br /><br />Solicitor Jimmy Richardson said he couldn't comment on any Moorer case because of a gag order.<br /><br />http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/crime/article210015874.htmlJohn Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18713820550089041952018-04-28T09:59:43.819-04:002018-04-28T09:59:43.819-04:00This is what I referred to as bolded line, followi...This is what I referred to as bolded line, following Brokaw's "Nah, too risky"<i>“There is nothing I would like more than a great chat with someone I admire, but if appearances are a concern, that’s valid.” </i><br /><br />Also: <i>"I ask in an intentionally skeptical way, <b>trying to slow this down,</b> </i><br /><br />Why not stop him or get him to leave?Zeke the Greeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-83259459459400249092018-04-28T09:52:22.899-04:002018-04-28T09:52:22.899-04:00"I jumped a foot..." Past tense may sign...<i>"I jumped a foot..."</i> Past tense may signal reliability but "a foot" seems hyperbolic and meant to persuade.<br /><br /><i> In September 1989, I was hired at NBC News to be groomed as a foreign correspondent. <br /><br />I had just finished a Fulbright in the Middle East, and I had been doing freelance work for CBS in Gaza. When I was interviewing at NBC, the network offered me a job where I could work my way up through the ranks. They started me as a researcher, then a field producer, then I was sent to the NBC Tampa affiliate to get more on-air experience. Then Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, and NBC said, “We need her to report from the Gulf.” I was there for the duration of the Gulf War.<br /><br />After I returned to the United States, I continued working jointly for NBC and its affiliates, until I was made a full-time correspondent for “Weekend Today” in 1993. At this point, at 28, I’m one the youngest correspondents at the network. In August, I was assigned to cover Pope John Paul’s trip to Denver.</i><br /><br />A lot of passive voice here. Careful what she says about NBC? Or is she trying to establish a sense NBC is responsible for her professional well being?<br /><br />NOT: "NBC hired me..., NBC interviewed me...NBC sent me...NBC made me a..."<br /><br /> "NBC said 'We need HER to...'" Why not first person like the rest?<br /><br /><i>At this point, my antennae went up. I was trying to use humor to signal that I was not interested in whatever he was suggesting, so I wrote, “I only drink milk and cookies.” It was the only thing I could think of at the moment, hoping it would jolt him into realizing that this was inappropriate and I was [nearly] 30 years younger than him.<br /><br />Then I wrote a line that tried more pointedly to make him aware that what he was doing was questionable. This is in my journal. I said: <br /><br />I was trying to say if you’re concerned this looks wrong, it’s because it is wrong. I immediately logged out of the system, because that shows you’re not longer available for discussion.</i><br /><br />She is aware, via "tried" that she has not communicated a disinterest. The bolded line even implies an interest after he has said "Nah, too risky."<br /><br />She wants us to hear "it's because it is wrong" but admits she failed to communicate that to him.<br /><br />What's a "computer message"? I've heard of email and instant message which need computers, but I've never heard of a "computer message."Zeke the Greeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71847051442848784092018-04-28T05:19:52.488-04:002018-04-28T05:19:52.488-04:00The pressure Brokaw kept up really hit to the subj...The pressure Brokaw kept up really hit to the subject. <br /><br />Brokaw now is seeking to discredit her while still not denying; he’s classifying. <br /><br />PStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-12836014851924099242018-04-28T05:18:36.132-04:002018-04-28T05:18:36.132-04:00This type of comment may have been projected guilt...This type of comment may have been projected guilt. He’d be better off if women stayed st home rather than children would be...<br /><br />Keeping him out of trouble. Statement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-50763517122572226832018-04-27T23:00:13.633-04:002018-04-27T23:00:13.633-04:00I heard Tom Brokaw say "Women should stay hom...I heard Tom Brokaw say "Women should stay home and raise children." at the very end of a broadcast once (after signing off). It is likely that he thought all of the affiliates had switched to commercial by then, but my local channel obviously fell behind that evening.<br /><br />It was the weirdest thing, but I heard and saw it very clearly. He said it in stone faced seriousness, directly into the camera. It was in the mid 1990s. I was so surprised, I even asked around to see if anyone else had caught it, but no one had.Bobcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-66503535512715676892018-04-27T22:53:44.355-04:002018-04-27T22:53:44.355-04:00Did he sexually assault her?
Answer: No
Did he s...Did he sexually assault her?<br /><br />Answer: No<br /><br />Did he sexually harass her?<br /><br />Answer: Yes<br /><br />It began when he tickled her at the waist. That's what creeped her out and kept her creeped out. She may have been nicer to him to keep him at bay, and he had the power to help her get promoted. She likely gave him wrong signals.<br /><br />His mentioning of movie stars was his ploy to get her involved in his world full time. <br /><br />If he used that tactic with her, there are those out there he did sexually assault.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-19371771340552746142018-04-27T22:26:34.546-04:002018-04-27T22:26:34.546-04:00I just read some more of Brokaw's response to ...I just read some more of Brokaw's response to her allegations. He reports " As I got up to leave I may have leaned over for a perfunctory goodnight kiss but my memory is that it happened at the door — on the cheek." First trying to keep deniability by stating he "may have" tried to kiss her, but then contradicting himself by stating what his memory is - "it happened at the door". An embedded admission? LuciaDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03658572205280231522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-17038669538523746972018-04-27T20:30:02.037-04:002018-04-27T20:30:02.037-04:00I find this interesting also.
I would like to kn...I find this interesting also. <br /><br />I would like to know if there is a difference between "he sexually assaulted her" and "he attempted to sexually assault her." I know there's a big difference legally, but what takes this over the line to a sexual assault as opposed to an attempted sexual assault. He tickled her waist. I don't think of that as a sexual assault. Assault perhaps, but not a sexual assault. He tried to kiss her but there was no kiss. There appears thru her story to be no other sexual touching. He stopped when she asked him to stop. He didn't try to cajole or manipulate her at the time into sleeping with him. He left. He IS manipulative as evidenced by his behavior the next day but frankly, I find most men manipulative when they are trying to see if you will have sex with them. <br /><br />Her child sexual abuse..could this be why she views him trying to kiss her as an assault whereas those of us that do not have that in our background, would not. I should say, I would not. I would think, you're an ass, I'm not sleeping with you, you've made a move, you've been rebuffed, get out. <br /><br />I agree with Cod..I don't think any of us made it out of high school without some type of attempted sexual assault that we, as women, just learn how to duck and weave out of because well, that's what you did when a date got to fresh or pushy. <br /><br />Tom Brokaw is a douche but is he a rapist? I will wait to see what others think of the sexual assault/attempted sexual assault. <br /><br />Interesting case tho. Tommy's days are numbered most likely.lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493739512074677263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48694672077142989872018-04-27T14:34:15.389-04:002018-04-27T14:34:15.389-04:00Off Topic: If anyone here has researched Ted Bund...Off Topic: If anyone here has researched Ted Bundy, could I get an opinion on do you think he was "like the devil"/ pure evil walking around with a deceptive mask or do you think he was under the influence of some kind of uncontrollable force and did not want to be that way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-7076315518435653202018-04-27T14:23:41.074-04:002018-04-27T14:23:41.074-04:00Ive always gotten a bad vibe off Tom Brokaw that h...Ive always gotten a bad vibe off Tom Brokaw that he has a cruel streak...never smiles, so serious, and there is violence & meanness on the edges of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-33135107891612166642018-04-27T12:08:07.380-04:002018-04-27T12:08:07.380-04:00This is interesting. I am beginning to wonder if a...This is interesting. I am beginning to wonder if any of us makes it out of high school without some kind of sexual abuse or harassment from superiors. We all knew girls in the 70s and 80s who "led with their chest," to put it politely. When I read Linda's excessively detailed account of her career in Wikipedia, what comes through loud and clear is that she probably made a name for herself as extraordinarily eager to make it to the big leagues.Codgerettenoreply@blogger.com