tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post6709368868865470515..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Rainn Peterson: Child of Neglect Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger241125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-68576992385273682422015-10-25T15:16:50.622-04:002015-10-25T15:16:50.622-04:00Just thinking about Brandi's interview stateme...Just thinking about Brandi's interview statement where she's discussing the doors in the house (beginning at 2:04 http://www.statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/10/rainn-peterson-child-of-neglect.html)<br /><br />Brandi: "Yes, there's, uhm, you walk through the upstairs. You walk the upstairs basement steps and you walk through the livingroom and there's, uhm, there's an actual laundry room door, but it was locked with a padlock on it. It was still locked when my daughter, after she went missing. Uhm the only door that wasn't, was the house door and the garage door. Uhm, the house door was shut like always, but it was not locked-the garage door was, uhm, found popped open when my grandmother went to let my dog out after my daughter had been missing." <br /><br /> As she mentally walks us through the house, detailing all the possible doors, it's odd that she mentions the padlocked laundry room door. Although it's unexpected as the majority of people do not <b>padlock</b> a laundry room door-even those with small children. More unexpected though to me, is that Brandi would mention it all. I would expect her to not even mentally consider that door at all <b>because it is padlocked</b>. In other words how could Rainn possibly be there or have gotten out that way because 2 yr Rainn did not have the key nor could she carry bolt-cutters to cut the chain...and it was still padlocked. Not knowing the layout of the house, does the laundry room have an outside exit or ground-level accessible window? I'm curious about where the key was kept, who knew, and if anything in that area that was disturbed/moved/etc.<br /><br />Brandi stops short of saying that the garage door was locked, yet she says it was found popped open. Found by whom? If it was found popped open when her grandmother went to let the dog out, I wonder why didn't just she say that her grandmother found it open? I wonder who determined it was "popped open" and at what point.<br /><br />I'm having difficulty picturing the layout of the house because Brandi begins with "You walk through the upstairs...". Her statement here is very confusing, she starts with walking us through the upstairs, then she's in the basement walking up the basement stairs to the upstairs livingroom. She moves to the laundry room door, followed by the house door and then the garage door.<br /><br />It's a two-story house, plus a partial basement, and an attached garage. I assumed that it was a basement garage with doors (garage door & basement door)leading into the basement of the home. However, it appears from the house layout sketches that the garage is on ground level and the basement is on the opposite end of the home (http://property.co.trumbull.oh.us/Data.aspx?ParcelID=49-036431). Someone please correct me if I'm reading this blueprint wrong. Many thanks in advance!Foolsfeedonfollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-85228542543093672792015-10-13T23:57:26.755-04:002015-10-13T23:57:26.755-04:00"Officials are still trying to determine how ..."Officials are still trying to determine how the little girl survived for 48 hours alone and cold.<br />They have collected cell phones from family members and anyone possibly connected to the disappearance".<br />http://www.cleveland19.com/story/30246490/rainn-peterson-recovering-at-home-investigation-continues Posted: Oct 13, 2015 4:00 AM, Updated: Oct 13, 2015 5:22 AM<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18846875807166721042015-10-13T09:18:39.638-04:002015-10-13T09:18:39.638-04:00"I knew if I had her, nothing could happen to..."I knew if I had her, nothing could happen to that kid, because I would protect her,” Sutton said.<br /><br />What does this imply? Thoughts anyone?<br /><br />http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/baby-rainns-rescuer-doesnt-want-to-be-called-a-hero-if-i-was-wrong-all-ive-lost-is-timeima.grandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09319771909287767461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-4979977221274891142015-10-13T06:52:25.381-04:002015-10-13T06:52:25.381-04:00Jen wrote: "It has never occurred to me to sp...Jen wrote: "It has never occurred to me to specify that my children have the same father, when talking about them. Right? "<br /><br /><br />Well, I do this. Because no one I meet think that my children, born in 1990, 1998, 2000 and 2012 have the same father. But they do. I got married in 1988, and it is sad that society now think divorces are the norm.Cornelia Norwaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-22137630712515159412015-10-12T22:30:00.841-04:002015-10-12T22:30:00.841-04:00Oops
"If she was out there all that time, th...Oops<br /><br />"If she was out there all that time, then that's what saved her, she's a fighter," Dora Mae Peterson said, Rainn's great grandmother.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-53112284842571784692015-10-12T22:27:50.002-04:002015-10-12T22:27:50.002-04:00fighter," Dora Mae Peterson said, Rainn's...fighter," Dora Mae Peterson said, Rainn's great grandmother.<br /><br />Dore Mae Peterson says she just finished doing laundry and was on her way to bring Rainn upstairs when she noticed she was gone. She says Rainn has always been afraid of the dark, which made her frieghtened for the toddler as the hours went by and she was nowhere to be found.<br /><br />http://www.wfmj.com/story/30243202/rainn-peterson-returns-home-from-hospital<br /> <br />Two things. <br />One) It sounds like GGM doesn't believe Rainne just toddled off into the night by herself . " IF she was out there all night..." IF.<br />Two) GGM was doing LAUNDRY, presumably in the padlocked laundry that was still locked when...after she went missing"<br /><br />What a strange case. Someone failed their polygraph and it wasn't Brandii or GGM. I wonder who.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25175624095852895912015-10-12T13:01:23.276-04:002015-10-12T13:01:23.276-04:00So based on this interview, the Sheriff seems to b...So based on this interview, the Sheriff seems to believe that this case is much more than just a little toddler sneaking out of the house, getting lost, and then being found two days later less than half mile from her home. He suspects foul play, but what thing/things are making him suspect this? What makes him so sure that Rainn didn't simply sneak out of the house, get lost, then luckily found two days later? <br /><br />Interesting that the Sheriff alludes to someone who MIGHT be suspicious based on their LDT results and also as much as states that the GGParents and Brandii all passed their LDT...so who is the person that the Sheriff is suspicious of (for lack of better phrasing)?<br /><br />There has to be more that the Sheriff is basing his conclusions on. Investigating this type of "crime" is costly, there has to be more than a wet vs. "dirty" diaper. It appears that he is waiting for DNA results to come back, which could take a while.<br /><br />I have refrained from making any comments on Victor, not sure what to think about him. I admit that some things are "off" but I don't want to attack a hero if he truly is innocent of any involvement. Peter, I was wondering if you are considering doing an analysis on Victor Sutton's full MSM interview? And also perhaps the Sheriff's interview from today?<br /><br />AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-58217359288444220082015-10-12T11:31:39.021-04:002015-10-12T11:31:39.021-04:00Interview with the Sheriff today 10/12/15 with WFM...Interview with the Sheriff today 10/12/15 with WFMJ:<br /><br />http://www.wfmj.com/category/179433/video-landing-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=11913233<br /><br />AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-76248266353575587532015-10-12T11:19:34.112-04:002015-10-12T11:19:34.112-04:00Here is the latest on Baby Rainn:
http://www.wfmj...Here is the latest on Baby Rainn:<br /><br />http://www.wfmj.com/story/30235608/rainn-peterson-back-with-great-grandparents-as-investigation-into-disappearance-continues<br /><br />Article below:<br /><br />"Rainn Peterson back with great grandparents as investigation into disappearance continues...<br /><br />YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio -<br />Two-year-old Rainn Peterson who went missing for two days last week is now home with her great grandparents who have temporary custody of the child.<br /><br />But the investigation into what led to her disappearance is far from over according to the Trumbull County Sheriff.<br /><br />There is plenty of talk and plenty of questions surrounding the two day disappearance of Rainn Peterson from her great grandparents North Bloomfield home.<br /><br />Some that even stirs suspicion with law enforcement, about the condition of the child when she was found.<br /><br />Sheriff Tom Altiere was interviewed by Lindsay McCoy on WFMJ Weekend Today.<br /><br />"Did you say she did not have a dirty diaper? No she did not have a dirty diaper, it was a wet diaper. Does that raise questions for you? Absolutely," Sheriff Altiere said.<br /><br />So what is law enforcement looking into in terms of this investigation moving forward?<br /><br />"Well we're looking for results coming back with her clothing to see if there's any oher DNA on there. Anything else that we can find just looking at her clothing," Sheriff Altiere said.<br /><br />And what about those lie detector tests taken during the most critical hours of the search for little Rainn Peterson?<br /><br />"There's still some questions, but you know that it was a high anxiety time for these people. You could say one didn't pass, but really they didn't fail, so maybe at a later date when everyone calms down we can go back to that person and say look we want to eliminate you from this investigation. Would that include the mother Brandi Peterson, does she have to have another one (lie detector test)? No she doesn't. So nothing suspicious surrounding her? We could find no fould play on her behalf," Sheriff Altiere said.<br /><br />The Sheriff also says the great grandparents were never on the radar, that's why they have temporary custody of Rainn now.<br /><br />As for why they did not allow volunteers early on in the search? Altiere says they were in rescue mode, and they wanted to preserve any evidence. Unsure of exactly what they were dealing with at the time."<br /><br />Anne<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78097022184286524872015-10-11T20:23:49.651-04:002015-10-11T20:23:49.651-04:00Juliet,
Thank you for transcribing the 911 call! ...Juliet,<br /><br />Thank you for transcribing the 911 call! I am going to have a closer look it than I already have, but I wanted to comment on your comments preceding it.<br /><br />You hit the nail on the head when you wrote how Victor yelled in his authoritative voice which made Rainn "twitch" and to "startle" her because he was angry at her because he thought she was hiding! When you wrote that, it clicked. That is exactly what he was doing. His language was conjuring an image for me of someone who was hunting an animal and the animal had been eluding him and was hiding and he was yelling at it to make it move so that he could see it. Even so, I still did not associate this with Victor thinking Rainn was hiding from him! I just felt it was almost violent in some way. But I am absolutely convinced what you wrote it right, and I am absolutely convinced Victor took her and placed her there after reading through the other transcriptions you posted.<br /><br />The other thing that is very telling is the way he attempts to dilute what I believe he told Rainn which was to "hold on, don't give up, just hold on and I will find you" before he placed her there: he attempts to dilute this by saying he told his kids this and then by also saying that he told "all the kids in the community this". The reason he did this is because it is so sensitive and he (very transparently) is trying to detract from what an odd statement it is and the fact that it actually does give away the fact that he is the one who took her, placed her there, and then "found" her by diluting it ie. he told his kids that too, he told every kid in the community that, next will it be that he told "every kid in the world"??? Please! He did it!<br /><br />I am going to look closer at the 911 call after dinner, but I have read through it, and a few things jump out<br /><br />1) He absolutely seems way to confident that she is "OK". In fact you can hear at points, he actually downplays her condition such as when he seems to rebuff the operator asking him to put his jacket around Rainn.<br /><br />2) He does not want to and does not put his coat around her. I believe it may be because he does not want to acknowledge to himself the distress he has put her in. He makes a comment like "she's OK". It is similar to the way he had commented that he at first thought that the flies were "sequins": in his mentally ill mind he is taking all of the ugly, bad effects on Rainn of his actions and either downplaying them or turning them into something else "wonderful". The flies are really "sequins". It is similar to how he keeps telling her she is "pretty", he is using that word, I believe to kind of try to wash away the miserable condition he has put her in and also how he comments that the experience of finding her was "beautiful". <br /><br />3) I believe this guy is one sick puppy. When he is asked if he knew Rainn's mother his words betray that he did, that he was at least familiar with her although he denies it, his words are very sensitive. I bet that he knew Rainn also, probably not well, but had probably at least met her and was well aware that she did not have much verbal ability to "tell on him".<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />criticalthinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59347581942135953372015-10-11T16:14:05.915-04:002015-10-11T16:14:05.915-04:00I forgot to include the link to the 911 call
http...I forgot to include the link to the 911 call<br /><br />https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eopq3W2awHA<br /><br />It seemed a long while before he asked the second time if he could 'grab her' - also he seemed over confident that she was fine. Almost casual, 'she's fine', so I see what others were getting at there now, along with his needing to be asked to put his jacket or something round her. From the photo, it appears he did not. So, desperate to find her, takes a while to pick her up, apparently does nothing about the alleged flies which were covering her, doesn't cover her for warmth - telling her she is pretty, and others that she is tough, is all that's necessary. It is a bit weird. Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-87679520946593812062015-10-11T15:52:28.312-04:002015-10-11T15:52:28.312-04:00Most of the 'unidentified' comments were b...Most of the 'unidentified' comments were background to the 911 call.<br /><br />Toward the end there are a couple of unidentified comments, and while I think the Man in Red Shirt's comments are attributed correctly, some may be Victor's. I know the Red Shirt man showed Rainn pictures on his phone of his little granddaughter while they waited for the ambulance to arrive.<br /><br />Interesting bits - he was on foot in the woods?Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-61596381836761897742015-10-11T15:46:49.887-04:002015-10-11T15:46:49.887-04:00Unidentified: [yells] What? Yeah?
O: West of 45
O:...Unidentified: [yells] What? Yeah?<br />O: West of 45<br />O: Do you have a four-wheeler, sir?<br />V: Yes. It’s a red four-wheeler.<br />O: Okay. And you can see two white vans?<br />V: I see two white vans and there’s a guy in a red shirt walking through the field towards me.<br />O: And there’s a gentleman in a red shirt walking towards him. Okay, we’re sending the ambulance, too, sir please stay on the line with me.<br />V: Okay.<br />V: You’re okay, sweetheart, I swear you’re gunna be okay <br />O: Does she, can I hear - is that her I hear?<br />V: She’s just crying. Yes <br />O: Okay, I hear her<br />V: Thank God<br />O : Oh, I just got goosebumps<br />V: Oh, my God, me too – I couldn’t give up on this kid. Thank God.<br />O: Are you able to access her, sir?<br />V: Yes<br />V: You okay, baby? <br />4.58<br />V: Can I grab her? I don’t think there’s anything going on<br />Unidentified: Is he allowed to pick her up? <br />O: She’s crying<br />Unidentified: She’s crying. Yes. <br />O: Okay, sir. Yes, you may pick her up – yes, you may pick her up<br />O: He’s on his own<br />V: Baby [inaudible] – hang onto me<br />Sound of Rainn<br />V: Hi baby. Hi baby – sit there - sit there, honey<br />Unidentified: Do you want for him to head toward the road<br />O: Or do you want, uh, for him to keep the spot?<br />V: Hi baby<br />Sound of Rainn<br />V: I know. I know, honey. I know, baby.<br />Unidentified: Walking through the woods about 5.10<br />Unidentified female: About 5.10?<br />Unidentified: Yes [inaudible] heading north from [inaudible] GPS<br />V: You’re so pretty. You’re so pretty. You’re so pretty.<br />O: Can you, can you put your jacket or something around her, sir, to keep her warm?<br />V: Yes, she’s fine. <br />V: You’re okay. You’re okay.<br />V: I see the Sheriff right now.<br />O: Okay, sir, stay on the line with me.<br />Man in Red Shirt: You’re okay. Doing okay. You’re alright. It’s okay. <br />V: Oh, my God, talk about luck. <br />Man in Red Shirt: You’re okay, darling.<br />V: Honey, you’re doing so good.<br />Man in Red Shirt: You’re doing good, big girl.<br />Man in Red Shirt: Do you want to see some pictures of my baby?<br />V: Yes, they’re all here now. They’re heading my way?<br />Man in Red Shirt: Do you want to see pictures of my baby? Do you want to see the pictures [inaudible, a few words] look at that, her name’s [inaudible]. Do you have a puppy? Do you have a puppy?<br />O: Is that Deputy Sheriff with you now, sir?<br />V: He’s coming, they’re out there, about twelve of them running through the field.<br />O: They’re running through the fields.<br />Unidentified: No problem.<br />V: She is, I can’t believe it – she’s tough, she’s tough, huh?<br />O: Aww…<br />Man in Red Shirt: You’re doing good, darling.<br />V: She’s tough.<br />Man in Red Shirt: {inaudible} all this rain - you’ve been in the rain, we’ve had lots of rain. We’ve been looking for you.<br />Unidentified: We’re here to help you<br />V: Yeah<br />Man in Red Shirt: We’ve been looking for you<br />V: Look at all these people – you’re famous! You’re famous, ah? I’m going to turn her over to you..<br />O: Okay, can you please tell me if the Sheriff is there now?<br />V: Yes, everybody’s here.<br />O: Alright, sir, I’m going to disconnect with you. Thank you so much.<br />V: I want to thank you, and bye bye.<br />O: Thank you, sir.<br />V: Okay.<br />Victor's 911 callnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59449713302943613882015-10-11T15:46:03.839-04:002015-10-11T15:46:03.839-04:00Conversation recorded on October 4, 2015 at 18.23 ...Conversation recorded on October 4, 2015 at 18.23 on channel 28. [Duration: 7min 47seconds]<br />O: Where is your emergency?<br />V: Hey, I found baby Rainn and she’s alive.<br />O: Where is she – where are you at?<br />V: I’m on Peck Leach [coughs] – wait one sec - <br />V: [yells] Whoa!!<br />V: I’m on Peck Leach – just off of Route 45 – if they head, on Peck Leach, head west, just west of 45, just come on down.<br />O: Okay, hold on. Are you at the road, sir?<br />V: No, I’m off the road<br />O: How far are you, north or south?<br />V: I’m a thousand feet, I’m just north to the road<br />O: Okay, I think I have you spotted. I think I have you spotted on your phone<br />V: Okay<br />O: Alright, hold on. Umm.<br />V: Hi, baby, stay still<br />O: Is she okay? Does she need an ambulance?<br />1.11<br />V: Can I grab her?<br />O: Hold on – hold on<br />V: She’s got flies all over her<br />O: Hold on, hold on. There – she’s got what, sir?<br />V: Hang on a sec….<br />V: [yells] what? Huh? Okay<br />V: But she’s got, uh, flies all over her, but she’s okay.<br />V: I’m coming, honey<br />O: Okay<br />V: I’m just to the right of the plain, the plain… turn this way<br />V: Did you send somebody down Peck Leach<br />O: Okay, I’m coming – they’re coming. They will see you – okay. Is she in, what, describe to me what she is wearing, sir.<br />V: She’s in purple shirt and grey, grey pants<br />O: Okay, does she have her shoes on?<br />V: I don’t know - she’s got her feet in the weeds<br />O: Is she trapped in anything?<br />V: No. She’s just sitting here, she was laying down sleeping. <br />O: Okay. Child was found laying down sleeping.<br />V: Yes, there’s, there’s …poles, telephone poles running north to south…I’m right by ‘em<br />O: Hold on, let my – it’s - he’s right there, and that’s exactly where he told me he was<br />Unidentifed: Okay<br />O: And that’s where she is<br />Unidentified: He’s off of Peck Leach Road<br />O: Sir, you cannot hang up with me, okay?<br />V: I won’t hang up<br />O: What is your name, sir?<br />V: My name is Victor Sutton<br />Unidentified: North of – just -it’s like a straight line from north<br />2.40<br />[fifteen second silence in recording]<br />Unidentified:….tower<br />O: No, I know, there’s where it did [inaudible] and that’s exactly where he told me. Alright, and she was wearing<br />Unidentified: He was on foot in the woods<br />V: Yep, this is her guaranteed 100%<br />V: You’re okay, sweetie<br />O: Is she by herself, sir?<br />V: Yes<br />Unidentified: Hold on<br />Unidentified: Yes<br />O: Is there anybody else with you, sir?<br />V: No, there’s cars starting to line up, there’s two white vans on Peck Leach<br />O: Okay. There’s - he says he can see two white vans on Peck Leach. What are you wearing, sir?<br />V: I’m wearing brown bib overalls and I’m with the - I’m on a red four wheeler<br />V: You’re okay [inaudible]<br />Victor's 911 callnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-37096053314805859842015-10-11T13:10:56.199-04:002015-10-11T13:10:56.199-04:00It was the 911 call receiver who described the man...It was the 911 call receiver who described the man in the red shirt as a 'gentleman'. Victor said 'guy'(I should have checked, memory is not so great). Transcribing the 911 call, though it's not that interesting, and so much background noise.Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-90280786979409946092015-10-11T11:20:49.680-04:002015-10-11T11:20:49.680-04:00Critical thinker - ha, no pressure. Yes, I agree t...Critical thinker - ha, no pressure. Yes, I agree that Victor had said those words to Rainn, how otherwise could she be waiting for someone to keep that promise that someone would come and get her? I think the reason why he was yelling her name is sensitive, too, as he doesn't need to tell us that's how he shouts at his own kids; he is trying to justify or explain why he shouted in a very particular way. I think she wandered off from wherever she was left, and from where he supposed her to be. He was yelling as a parent would for a child, whom he knew was there somewhere, but who was not responding, or whom he felt was hiding - he was yelling in a tone of exasperation or annoyance. I think he felt the need to explain it because it became apparent to him that somebody was nearby and had probably or maybe heard him yelling in a quite unexpected tone, and who might want question that later. We know a guy in a red shirt was walking across the field towards him as he made the 991 call. I think Victor described him as 'a gentleman' (maybe hoping him to be gentlemanly enough not to question what might have been going on, if he had heard him, and if his tone had raised any questions).<br /><br />His language in speaking to baby Rainn is familiar, but strangers using terms of endearment towards small children is not unusual, so he may not already have known her or spent any time with her. But does she say she is hungry, to which he responds, 'I know, I know' ? - I really hope she is saying that (her family would know) because if actually, she can talk, she might, at some point - and little ones comprehend a lot more than some people realise, even if they can't verbalise it. I read an article today where a doctor or child psychologist said they'd likely be using play therapy and pictures to encourage little Rainn to play out what had happened during her time away from home. <br /><br />I'm going to listen to the 911 call again, - I might transcribe it. I haven't got round to gathering all the 'get' and 'find's into one post - it seems superfluous by now - he uses find quite normally - 'get' was a slip, so he just had to go with it, then explained himself too much, methinks.Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-28751964993304530152015-10-11T01:16:03.831-04:002015-10-11T01:16:03.831-04:00"I barked it out"
'I went from tot..."I barked it out" <br /><br />'I went from total despair to total euphoria in literally a matter of three seconds.'<br /><br />3 is the liar's number, which makes me question if the relief he felt was real, did he genuinely "find" her?<br /><br />" I was by myself down there and I was really looking for areas that... It didn't appear that people had been," Sutton said.<br /><br />I wonder since he cuts himself off, was he really thinking that he had looked for areas where people did not appear to have searched to place down baby Rainn so she could wait to be "found" (by him)?<br /><br />"so I was looking for signs of, you know, foot-tracks or four-wheeler tracks, and if people had been there then I, I went to a different location."<br /><br />he doesn't say he "went to search in other locations" rather "I went to a different location (and singular)".<br />This makes me think he actually placed baby Rainn down in that single location<br /><br />Which leads me to: how Victor said that he had said to his kids "I will find you, you just can’t give up, you have to hold on until I can get to you but I will get to you’, (and he also says at one point that he told all of this kids in "the community" this same promise which makes it extremely sensitive) and after the specific quote I just quoted Victor says "I just kept thinking that little girl was waiting for somebody to keep that promise"<br /><br />He says versions of the above quote many times, all very sensitive where he has told his kids, the kids in the community to hold on, don't give up, he will find them, and they are waiting for someone like him to get them and keep that promise.<br /><br />I am convinced that Victor tried to find a place that hadn't been searched, placed Rainn down there, said those very words to HER ("hold on, don't give up, just hold on and I will come get you") and then went on his "slow, meaningful search" and "found" her.<br />Am I the only one who noticed in the 911 call that there is no sound of Rainn crying UNTIL Victor picks her up??? That could indicate that Victor had taken her and hid her and she is scared of him!!!<br /><br />criticalthinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71906437404905770352015-10-11T00:53:25.515-04:002015-10-11T00:53:25.515-04:00''She was shaken and you could tell she ha...''She was shaken and you could tell she had been through a bad experience,"<br /><br />Again, here, he doesn't say "she seemed shaken". He says "she was shaken", which is odd that he states it this way, and just sounds kind of violent. Am I crazy to think that?<br />He also points out in one interview that the reporter can ask his kids what it is like when he yells at them in an authoritative voice. So, it is as if at that point, he is boasting about how intimidating his authoritative voice yell is, so, that maybe why some of his other language strikes me as violent.<br /><br />"twitched"<br />"she was shaken"criticalthinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-51367918696263603322015-10-11T00:48:42.341-04:002015-10-11T00:48:42.341-04:00Trying to comb through and comment on things I hav...Trying to comb through and comment on things I have not already commented on:<br /><br />His use of the word "twitch" bothers me greatly, and I cannot put my finger on why. To me, his comment about 'yelling in a really authoritative voice" and then saying "she twitched", it conjures up a violent image. Like it sounds like the language someone might use if they had hunted an animal. It just troubles me, in fact, out of all the interviews I have read or seen with him, it troubles me the most. It is not an image which matches concern or finding a lost toddler.<br /><br />"I yelled 'Rainn' real abruptly and she twitched, she lifted her head, turned to me and opened her eyes," he said.<br /><br />(will post more)<br />criticalthinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-56904499157220734552015-10-11T00:41:55.930-04:002015-10-11T00:41:55.930-04:00Juliet, Im so sorry I'm just getting a chance ...Juliet, Im so sorry I'm just getting a chance to look at this, just had a really busy weekend. I really like all of your observations especially your observation about the story-telling Victor throws in (despair to euphoria) and also I agree with anon's observations about the sensitivity of Victor (not) knowing the mother. I feel he is trying to hide the fact that he knows the mother. The question is why? I'm going to look through myself right now and post shortly. Sorry about the delay.criticalthinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-31701228693060869712015-10-10T20:01:34.380-04:002015-10-10T20:01:34.380-04:00http://www.cleveland19.com/Clip/11898484/raw-volun...http://www.cleveland19.com/Clip/11898484/raw-volunteer-victor-sutton-talks-about-finding-2-year-old-rainn-peterson<br /><br />Link to the site which originally published Victor's interview - the interviewer was Sara Goldenberg.<br /><br />---<br /><br />Link to report about two children missing overnight and recovered - or how things more usually pan out.<br /><br />http://www.cleveland19.com/story/30224189/children-from-ohio-indiana-missing-in-red-river-gorge<br />Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78872869074468943842015-10-10T12:36:38.540-04:002015-10-10T12:36:38.540-04:00The bit where Victor wants to thank the other volu...The bit where Victor wants to thank the other volunteers is interesting - first because it isn't really his place to thank them - that's for the Sheriff and for the family to do. It's not spontaneous, from the interviewer's question, it's apparent that he's already told her that he wants to thank everyone. Most interesting, he doesn't actually thank them. He lists them, praises and flatters them, saying 'everyone' could have found her etc - but then he finishes by telling the viewer to 'thank God for people like them.' I think he does that because he knows it's not his place, personally, to thank them, so he can't and doesn't, he just makes it seem like he does. So he maybe feels the need to strengthen his position by numbering himself amongst all those he in other interviews also describes as good, capable and caring people, being 'humble' in the face of all the better 'qualified' - professionals and volunteers, those from his own community, and further afield. Would that fall under the heading of 'tangent'?Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59804676183676935572015-10-10T08:14:19.484-04:002015-10-10T08:14:19.484-04:00I: Do you know anything about her mom, or know her...I: Do you know anything about her mom, or know her at all?<br /><br />(No, not really. I mean, like I said) I don’t know the family – <br /><br />I know the grandparents (but)<br /> <br />I don’t know the rest of the family (that well, so - I can’t speak – I can’t speak to that, but)<br /><br />I know it was a two year old little girl and - it’s a great story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-86773655831535882662015-10-10T08:14:09.162-04:002015-10-10T08:14:09.162-04:00Also, I have wondered about this from the first ti...Also, I have wondered about this from the first time he said it - would the baby not open her eyes before she turned to look at him? He says variously that she twitched/shook/gave a shake, but invariably that she turned her head towards him and then opened her eyes. <br /><br />In one of his accounts quoted somewhere above amongst the rest : 'She lifted her head and looked at me and opened her eyes'. How did she manage that? Julietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48515779468542011992015-10-10T07:47:34.674-04:002015-10-10T07:47:34.674-04:00'I just happened to be the one who did it'...'I just happened to be the one who did it'<br /><br />Okay. Would he clarify - did what? Finding is not really a 'did it' - it's a bit more of a 'found her'. He does have an odd turn of phrase.Julietnoreply@blogger.com