tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post6821621760835560461..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Interview: Police Officer Darren Wilson Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-87365614659873466472014-11-28T04:53:01.431-05:002014-11-28T04:53:01.431-05:00Hogwash. This is not about what Browne and Johnso...Hogwash. This is not about what Browne and Johnson knew about the robbery they had just committed and walked away from. There is a fine line here between what Officer Wilson knew and when he knew it. <br /><br />At the time Wilson approached Browne & Johnson it was for walking down the middle of the street and had nothing to do with the convenience store that had just been robbed of the cigarillos by these two. Had he known THEN that these were the two criminals involved, he would have attempted to apprehend them THEN for the robbery. <br /><br />When Wilson backed up his patrol car to pursue the two thugs it was for their failure to follow his directive to get out of the middle of the street and onto the sidewalk. THOSE words clearly indicate that Wilsons' beef against these two was for their taunting of him by ignoring his orders and continuing on their walk in the middle of the street. <br /><br />He couldn't have known during the altercation that ensured either, since he states that his dispatch radio was on a country western station and not on his direct line to dispatch, as he states this is why his calls for back up assistance were not heard by dispatch and other officers. <br /><br />Wilson also knew that Browne was unarmed when Browne started walking back towards him with his hand in his waistband as he states, since Browne had already attempted to overpower Wilson in a struggle to take his revolver away from him while in his patrol car; knowing that if Browne had been armed he would have already shot, or knifed Wilson if he'd had a knife or gun. <br /><br />Wilson was hot under the collar and PO'ed when he fired twelve shots at and into thug Browne for blatantly disobeying his orders and physically attacking him. <br />Who can blame him for his anger; HOWEVER, he still didn't have the right to play judge, jury and executioner of thug Browne whether he knew that Browne was one of the robbery criminals or not. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-54591377467274015562014-11-28T02:28:24.557-05:002014-11-28T02:28:24.557-05:00Officer Wilson heard about a robbery in progress a...Officer Wilson heard about a robbery in progress as he left an earlier call. He didn't make out all the details because he heard it on his walkie talkie. He heard black male wearing a black shirt and took cigars. It wasn't his call and he wasn't searching for the suspect.<br /><br />He initially spoke to Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson because they were in the street. Michael Brown's attitude made him look twice at him, notice he was wearing a black shirt and had what looked like cigarillos in his hand. He then reversed to question them and well, you know...<br /><br />The Ferguson chief was correct in saying the initial contact was not about the robbery as far as he knew. And remember, the investigation was immediately turned over to St Louis County. <br /><br />Darren Wilson stated he knew about the robbery when questioned the first day, the next day and in his grand jury testimony. <br /><br />More importantly Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson knew they had just robbed a store. They're the ones that would very likely be defensive about being stopped by police.Sushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11360331888330292676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-75857731678338941272014-11-28T01:20:33.523-05:002014-11-28T01:20:33.523-05:00The problem is, the timeline Wilson presents betwe...The problem is, the timeline Wilson presents between confronting Brown for walking in the middle of the street and the altercation that followed leaves no time for him to hear about the cigarillos on the radio, unless he heard it and it registered while he was fighting off Brown.<br /><br />And there's no getting around the fact that in early days, his own police chief went on the record saying that Wilson didn't even know that Brown was a suspect in the cigarillo theft.<br /><br />If the police chief recanted that statement then never mind, I missed it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48463744475291380762014-11-27T22:28:40.412-05:002014-11-27T22:28:40.412-05:00Anon said
1) Officer Wilson claims he knew of the...Anon said <br />1) Officer Wilson claims he knew of the robbery where the cigarillos were stolen, even details how Browne passed off the cigarillos to his buddy Johnson, but in the statement by the police chief he specifically states that Wilson was unaware of the theft at the time he warned Browne and Johnson to get on the sidewalk. So did Wilson know of the robbery or didn't he? If Wilson lied in this instance he could be lying in other statements he made above. <br /><br /><br /><br />He said that initally he spoke to Briwn cause he was walking down the middle of the road then later heard on his police radio the description and he then realized. trustmeigetithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05707304982363758140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-82863631708930061652014-11-27T04:21:05.119-05:002014-11-27T04:21:05.119-05:00Points of interest:
1) Officer Wilson claims he...Points of interest: <br /><br />1) Officer Wilson claims he knew of the robbery where the cigarillos were stolen, even details how Browne passed off the cigarillos to his buddy Johnson, but in the statement by the police chief he specifically states that Wilson was unaware of the theft at the time he warned Browne and Johnson to get on the sidewalk. So did Wilson know of the robbery or didn't he? If Wilson lied in this instance he could be lying in other statements he made above. <br /><br />2) Either way, Wilson warned Browne & Johnson to get out of the middle of the street and onto the sidewalk. They didn't and back-talked to Wilson like thugs do. This angered Wilson. Now p'ssed and cruising for a bruising, Wilson backed up his patrol car until he was abreast of the two thugs. Browne threw his large body against the side of the patrol car, blocking Wilson inside. Browne reaches into the car window and physically attacks Wilson, trying to get his gun away from him. Browne the thug, DID struggle with and punched Wilson, whether he inflicted great injury or not.<br /><br />Wilson may have exaggerated his injuries; on the other hand, WHO among us has the right to reach into a patrol car and attack an officer, provoked or otherwise? None, that's who. As an officer of the law, Wilson was within his rights to apprehend Browne, either dead or alive. <br /><br />3) Whether Browne was walking away or attempting to charge back towards Wilson is technically irrelevant as to whether Wilson was within his rights to shoot Browne; Wilson was under provocation and in his anger got out of the car at his first opportunity and fired shots at Browne after he had already left the scene, whether Browne was ten feet away or a hundred and ten feet away is irrelevant. You don't want to die? Don't resist or attack an officer. It is irrelevant whether Wilson fired one shot or twelve, he intended to shoot Browne dead and did. <br /><br />4) HOWEVER, Wilson did not 'have' to shoot Browne dead now that Browne was no longer up in his face and attacking him. I don't buy Wilsons story that he feared Browne might have a gun inside his waistband; if Browne had a gun (or knife) he would have already killed Wilson when he was up in Wilsons face and with his arms inside Wilsons' car. <br /><br />The fact that Browne tried to take Wilsons gun proves that Browne had no gun or other weapon he could have used against Wilson other than his fists. On the other hand, Wilson had no help there to assist him in apprehending thug Browne for the several charges he had violated against Wilson. <br /><br />If an officer can't defend his bodily person, what is left to do? Wilson was within his rights to shoot Browne in an attempt to apprehend him, but to deliberately shoot him dead, when by this time Browne had left the scene? There's where the line is drawn. Was it murder? Under the law, probably not. The grand jury should probably have returned an opinion of manslaughter under duress. <br /><br />IMO, an officer cannot act as judge, jury and executioner, and should not have the right to shoot to kill someone just because they have been physically violated and are angry at losing control of the situation, which is what Wilson did to thug Browne. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63730605422278682782014-11-27T02:18:08.140-05:002014-11-27T02:18:08.140-05:00http://nypost.com/2014/11/26/the-inconvenient-and-...http://nypost.com/2014/11/26/the-inconvenient-and-tragic-truths/<br /><br />"Liberal commentators come back again and again to the fact that Michael Brown was unarmed and that, in the struggle between the two, Officer Wilson sustained only bruises to his face. The subtext is that if only Wilson had allowed Brown to beat him up and perhaps take his gun, things wouldn’t have had to escalate.<br /><br />There is good reason for a police officer to be in mortal fear in the situation Officer Wilson faced, though. <br /><br />In upstate New York last March, Police Officer David Smith responded to a disturbance call at an office, when suddenly, a disturbed man pummeled the officer as he was attempting to exit his vehicle and then grabbed his gun and shot him dead. The case didn’t become a national metaphor for anything.<br /><br />Ferguson, on the other hand, has never lacked for media coverage, although the narrative of a police execution always seemed dubious and now has been exposed as essentially a fraud.<br />“Hands up, don’t shoot” is a good slogan. If only it was what Michael Brown had done last August.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71564405268218303172014-11-27T01:31:05.889-05:002014-11-27T01:31:05.889-05:00http://nypost.com/2014/11/26/the-inconvenient-and-...http://nypost.com/2014/11/26/the-inconvenient-and-tragic-truths/<br /><br />"Instead, the credible evidence suggests that Michael Brown — after a petty act of robbery at a local business — attacked Wilson when the officer stopped him on the street. Brown punched Wilson when the officer was still in his patrol car and attempted to take his gun from him.<br /><br />The first shots were fired within the car in the struggle over the gun. Then Brown ran. Even if he hadn’t put his hands up, but merely kept running away, he would also almost certainly be alive today. Again, according to the credible evidence, he turned back and rushed Wilson. The officer shot several times, but Brown kept on coming until Wilson finally killed him."<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-78223232882476184342014-11-27T01:17:28.374-05:002014-11-27T01:17:28.374-05:00re: Anon at November 26, 2014 at 6:37 PM:
&quo...re: Anon at November 26, 2014 at 6:37 PM:<br /> "Also if he was attacked with two "solid blows" by this "hulk" of a man he describes, why were his injuries so minor?"<br /><br />Exactly!<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-48012430207975223862014-11-27T01:17:19.778-05:002014-11-27T01:17:19.778-05:00msnbc - reliable news? That's a good laugh.msnbc - reliable news? That's a good laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-55376570678617589122014-11-27T00:19:45.390-05:002014-11-27T00:19:45.390-05:00Wilson says that early on Brown puts his hands on ...Wilson says that early on Brown puts his hands on the windowsill of the police car.<br /><br />This is BEFORE Brown hands the cigarillos off to the other "subject." <br /><br />Not much further down, first Wilson is blocking with his right hand, then his left.<br /><br />SA isn't even needed here. I'm only up to page 6 and the contradictions show the guy is lying through his teeth.Root Beernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-64938984119907472342014-11-26T23:47:23.989-05:002014-11-26T23:47:23.989-05:00Now see, this is very interesting.
Back in August...Now see, this is very interesting.<br /><br />Back in August, the police chief said Wilson wasn't even aware of Brown's role in the cigarillo theft.<br /><br />Quote:<br /><br />But Darren Wilson, the officer who stopped Brown, wasn’t even aware that Brown was a suspect in the robbery, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Friday afternoon. The officer initially stopped Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, because the pair was walking in the middle of a residential street<br /><br />Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-police-name-michael-brown<br /><br />This is a total contradiction to Wilson's testimony that he saw the cigarillos in Brown's hand and he knew that this what was stolen from the Market Store.<br /><br />Root Beernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-18916378193060243322014-11-26T23:28:35.763-05:002014-11-26T23:28:35.763-05:00@ anonymous at 1:00 p.m.
The grand jury was not p...@ anonymous at 1:00 p.m.<br /><br />The grand jury was not predominantly black. There were three blacks on it. <br /><br />Root Beernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-71044504190111589482014-11-26T23:25:36.872-05:002014-11-26T23:25:36.872-05:00I drink sperm xxxxxxxI drink sperm xxxxxxxNicolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-81064420483600141612014-11-26T23:21:12.426-05:002014-11-26T23:21:12.426-05:00I haven't read this whole thing, but one thing...I haven't read this whole thing, but one thing that leaped out at me was Wilson saying, "I told 'em, hey guys, why don't you walk on the sidewalk."<br /><br />SA says that "told" is authoritative, but then Wilson frames what he "told" them as asking a question rather than giving a direction.<br /><br />Root Beernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-38658531500412590732014-11-26T23:21:05.540-05:002014-11-26T23:21:05.540-05:00Shut up john.Stop "grabbing the microphone&qu...Shut up john.Stop "grabbing the microphone"zzzzjohn its not YOUR BLOG..STFUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59254804079064091482014-11-26T23:18:48.675-05:002014-11-26T23:18:48.675-05:00But....john is a twat,jts always yapping on and on...But....john is a twat,jts always yapping on and on!!! Lol Maybenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-69294168451894430272014-11-26T23:11:18.062-05:002014-11-26T23:11:18.062-05:00I read Wilson's testimony and studied it at le...I read Wilson's testimony and studied it at length. I'm no expert at statement analysis, so I'm looking forward to the analysis here. But some of the things I think I understand make me think Wilson isn't being entirely truthful about what exactly led to the struggle over the gun to begin with. I wonder of Wilson didn't draw his gun as he tried to exit his vehicle while Brown was blocking his door. I think there's missing information in his narrative, and I think that may be what is missing. It would make him more culpable in the altercation escalating to gunfire, so I think he is modifying his story to hide his actions. Picture the scenario with the verbal exchange Wilson reports and picture it with the "you ain't gonna shoot me you pussy" as Brown's response to pulling out his gun as Brown walks up to the car. It just makes more sense. I've been squarely of the opinion Brown forced Wilson to defend himself through this whole thing. After reading his testimony, however, I'm having doubts about what really happened. Did Wilson escalate the confrontation beyond reason? Possibly. Very possibly. wreyeter72noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-67617342287061789812014-11-26T20:43:01.216-05:002014-11-26T20:43:01.216-05:00Media likes to keep people glued to their tv's...Media likes to keep people glued to their tv's....so they go off half cocked with a narrative.....<br /><br />If it bleeds, it leads<br />if it burns, it earns.....<br /><br />The evidence.....FACTS.... given can show where each party was when the events went down. LE is trained on how to respond to certain situations. You never want to reach for an officer's gun. If you are experienced with the use of a knife and are within 6-10 ft of someone who has a gun, you could literally slice them to pieces by the time they aim and shoot. That is why LE shoots anyone wielding a knife. With the right training, or size/weight you can kill someone with your bare hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-42541686621837818782014-11-26T19:50:44.915-05:002014-11-26T19:50:44.915-05:00People want to believe what the media has kept har...People want to believe what the media has kept harping at: that this was a racist action. Could race have played a part? Yes. However, people that are saying that Michael Brown was murdered are delusional and haven't read the FACTS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-8216685650123877562014-11-26T18:37:03.075-05:002014-11-26T18:37:03.075-05:00I notice Wilson changes from past tense to present...I notice Wilson changes from past tense to present in his account and that the interviewer does too. Any significance to that?<br /><br />Also if he was attacked with two "solid blows" by this "hulk" of a man he describes, why were his injuries so minor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-63091610495142591752014-11-26T18:30:20.673-05:002014-11-26T18:30:20.673-05:00Sus, I like your points. I also found it odd when ...Sus, I like your points. I also found it odd when he mentioned the "hop." The first time he mentioned it, he asked them if they knew what type of hop he meant. He asked them the question... that confused me.GetThemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-56807191438102415702014-11-26T18:27:39.754-05:002014-11-26T18:27:39.754-05:00I'll look forward to the full analysis, but on...I'll look forward to the full analysis, but one thing I found strange is his denial of knowing how many rounds he shot. How can he say he doesn't know when he is the one who emptied the last round from his gun at the station. Why avoid answering that question?GetThemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-91312355042760555432014-11-26T17:26:42.359-05:002014-11-26T17:26:42.359-05:00Read/watch crime dramas much? That sounds like the...Read/watch crime dramas much? That sounds like the makings of an Ann Rice murder myselfNicolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13994849246583603962014-11-26T17:24:30.420-05:002014-11-26T17:24:30.420-05:00Wilson tried to force him into the front seat of t...Wilson tried to force him into the front seat of the squad car? Really? Cause that's where the struggle took place. You think maybe he wanted Brown to drive the car for him and got mad when Brown said no? <br />Three (3) autopsies concluded UNEQUIVOCALLY that Brown was not shot in the back. Ugh there are so many things wrong with your reasoning I just can't even.Nicolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-44156314387353102682014-11-26T17:16:33.832-05:002014-11-26T17:16:33.832-05:00Personally, I absolutely hate every article having...Personally, I absolutely hate every article having off-topic comments, especially when I'm trying to scan the comments to see other opinions on the article and all I can see are OT! I wish there were a separate area to post them, and leave the comments section exclusively for...comments pertaining to the actual article. Like on Facebook you can post on someone's wall or reply to something they write. This place needs a wallNicolenoreply@blogger.com