tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post7885504392100805803..comments2024-03-18T04:20:15.987-04:00Comments on Statement Analysis ®: Baby Gabriel: Statement Analysis Statement Analysis Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-34223952934426545582012-10-24T21:53:31.327-04:002012-10-24T21:53:31.327-04:00Hi Peter, I am following up on lisgfinch's req...Hi Peter, I am following up on lisgfinch's request for an analysis of Morgan Ingram's mother.<br /><br /> Misty (and Peter), you can find the police, toxicology & autopsy reports at http://truthformorgan.wordpress.com/tag/morgan-ingram/. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36030344697381421442012-10-24T04:40:16.487-04:002012-10-24T04:40:16.487-04:00Interesting question about the diaper bag, althoug...Interesting question about the diaper bag, although I really don't see much significance in it. <br /><br />Thinking back however, I don't think I ever referred to the diaper bag as being "MY Diaper Bag" on too many occasions, possibly never since it wasn't. It was the baby's diaper bag. <br /><br />To refer to it as MY diaper bag would be the same as saying "MY diapers, MY baby dress, MY bottles, MY blankie" and so on.<br /><br />If I recall correctly, I usually would say something like "did you bring the baby's diaper bag"? "Don't forget the diaper bag" "Did you put the bottles in the diaper bag"? "The diaper bag is ready" or "C's diaper bag is ready". "Have you seen C' diaper bag, or THE diaper bag?" NEVER my diaper bag, etc, etc. To the day care worker, "would you hand me C's diaper bag." To C as she or he got older, "honey can you pick up your diaper bag?" and so on. <br /><br />I don't think I even thought of it as "MY" diaper bag when I purchased it since I bought it for the baby, a blue one for the boy, a pick one for the girl; the bag always belonged to them. I was just the caretaker of the bag. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-66095536777749431632012-10-24T04:03:12.847-04:002012-10-24T04:03:12.847-04:00This is one of the lowest forms of humanity that e...This is one of the lowest forms of humanity that ever existed and obviously became sociopathic/psychopathic at a young age, untreated, possibly in her genes from birth. Yes, the genes DO matter, a bad seed does happen; compound that with her childhood tragedies, PMDS, and there you have it, a psychopath. A danger to herself and everyone around her. <br /><br />No doubt was sired by dope addicts herself, shifted from pillow to post, neglected and unloved for the most part, and sexually abused. For all that, I'm sorry but still is no excuse to kill your innocent helpless sweet baby, the only good thing that ever happened to her. From birth she did not want that baby, despised him and was having no part of him.<br /><br />Initially she told the truth about what she did with the baby, what I can't understand is why the jury had a problem with that! Stupid, stupid people. She deserves life in prison WOP and sterilization so she can't make another baby with some LE dude or during conjucal visits later on. Of course there'll be some nitwit (among many) who will want to marry her. Don't they always?<br /><br />The sick b'tch killed the baby and dumped him in the first trash can she came upon where no one was paying attention to her then went on her merry way. THEN was happy to brag about it to the baby's father just to get even with him. And they don't believe her??! Unbelievable! Another tragedy. <br /><br />I can understand Tammi Smith wanting to take the baby. There sat Elizabeth in an airport, or wherever she was, Tammi is a stranger and sees this beautiful baby and discovers this young mother doesn't want him and realizes the baby can be hers for the taking? It would be hard not to take this baby, which is exactly what she should have done that day, even if it cost her a few bucks, and should have gone straight to the cops with him, instead of plotting some illegal adoption with Elizabeth which ultimately blew up in her face and led to the baby's death. To Elizabeth, Tammi was wasting too much time. <br /><br />Elizabeth damned well intended to get rid of beautiful Gabe one way or another, that is what she raked money together for, why she went out of town, why she was staying in the motel, and she wasn't going to waste much time doing it either. To hell with Tammi and her "legal" schemes; quick solution, she killed the baby. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-45280483441547754832012-10-22T22:11:53.941-04:002012-10-22T22:11:53.941-04:00How many different ways can she possibly say she k...How many different ways can she possibly say she killed this poor baby? I mean, she flat out says it & no one believes her? It's mind boggling! <br />Usually it's the opposite. These people murder their children & say nothing & everyone tries to coax the truth out of them. This girl not only tells you she did it, but also tells you how. Why in the world doesn't anyone BELIEVE her?MsCabinFeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04172412802096918383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25934423712694547892012-10-22T18:28:01.767-04:002012-10-22T18:28:01.767-04:00http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/12/16/...http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/12/16/20101216baby-gabriel-elizabeth-johnson1216.html<br /><br /><br />There is the conversation I'm referring to but I can't find the audioLadyluck WInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-25316609504719770792012-10-22T18:17:00.187-04:002012-10-22T18:17:00.187-04:00Maybe another interesting call to analyze would be...Maybe another interesting call to analyze would be the phone call EJ makes from jail to Tammi Smith, accusing Tammi of concocting a plan and knowing exactly who this mystery couple is. I listened very very closely when they played it in court. hopefully you or someone can find a link. it was a specific call from when Elizabeth was in jail and calmly and accused Tammi of setting up the couple, and calmly denying she knew who they were. <br /><br />If you listen very closely you can see that Elizabeth slips up a few times. Tammi on the other hand never slipped up as far as exposing that she was lying. (Elizabeth flip flops between accusing Tammi of setting up some couple and planning Elizabeths trip.. moments later Elizabeth admits that Tammi had nothing to do with Elizabeth leaving to Texas but sounded "happy" that she was there.) Tammi always questioned any plan elizabeth referred to instead of accepting it as proof. Elizabeth on the other hand has some slip ups!<br /><br />Tammi isn't purely innocent in these matters but I don't think she knew where Gabriel truly was during this phone call. I think Elizabeth also lied to Tammi about Logan's involvement in their lives so Tammi felt more justified in sneaking around trying to get away with adopting gabrielLadyluck WInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-17112286439160178732012-10-22T17:43:15.021-04:002012-10-22T17:43:15.021-04:00Thank you, Ladyluck and others who took the time t...Thank you, Ladyluck and others who took the time to respond; this is useful information. PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-13129795596841861742012-10-22T17:42:13.266-04:002012-10-22T17:42:13.266-04:00I continue to ask...
Today, I asked about 15 wome...I continue to ask...<br /><br />Today, I asked about 15 women the same question and got some interesting answers:<br /><br />all 15 said it was "the" diaper bag. <br /><br />One pointed out that it is only "his" diaper bag when at Daycare and a Daycare worker identifies it. <br /><br />Interesting point!<br /><br />PeterStatement Analysis Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607372649929274491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59447231715412705102012-10-22T17:25:01.332-04:002012-10-22T17:25:01.332-04:00It was always "the" diaper bag.
If we...It was always "the" diaper bag. <br /><br />If we were a bunch of mom's together, it was "that's my diaper bag", or "that one's mine".<br /><br />Nichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09150573665283919209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-29345368437661892632012-10-22T14:33:17.316-04:002012-10-22T14:33:17.316-04:00The only time I referred to it as the childs diape...The only time I referred to it as the childs diaper bag, was at the daycare, I would either tell the care-giver, 'there is extra clothes in Justins' diaper bag', or picking him up, 'where is Justins' diaper bag?", because there was 20 diaperbags there. Otherwise it was always 'the diaperbag'robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-32373222045922166762012-10-22T14:16:32.407-04:002012-10-22T14:16:32.407-04:00Maybe if you look at the Gerber facebook page, and...Maybe if you look at the Gerber facebook page, and find the question they posted this afternoon you will find plenty of responses that might give us a better understanding of how mom's refer to the diaper bag. I don't have time to research it now but i imagine it could give us a good indication. the only problem was they used "your diaper bag" which is kind of leading into a response but after thinking about the response you intend to write it might fade the urge to copy the languageLadyluck WInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-68792924391472145642012-10-22T14:06:15.733-04:002012-10-22T14:06:15.733-04:00I receive Gerber status updates on my facebook acc...I receive Gerber status updates on my facebook account. Ironically the question they just posted was, "whats the most useful item in your diaper bag?<br /><br />they also didn't refer to it as giving ownership to the baby either. something i never noticed. to me its "the diaperbag" because both mommy and baby have a use for itLadyluck WInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-20782718031946052662012-10-22T13:44:23.207-04:002012-10-22T13:44:23.207-04:00I think when my son was a baby I referred to it as...I think when my son was a baby I referred to it as the Diaper bag. As my husband and I would share using it. When he got older and it wasn't really a diaper bag anymore just a bag with a change of clothes I think I referred to it as his diaper bag as it had his belongings in it. I finally threw the diaper bag away when my son was 9 1/2 years old as it was getting worn out and my mother was harassing me that my son no longer needed a diaper bag. My mom watches my son for me while I'm at work and sometimes they make messes and need a change of clothes.SugaCatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-44096405577508743932012-10-22T11:21:54.383-04:002012-10-22T11:21:54.383-04:00Here is an odd comment from Mac, the new PI in Hai...Here is an odd comment from Mac, the new PI in Hailey Dunn's case. Now this may shed some light on why Billie has allowed him in her world to further the illusion:<br />"...As hypocritical as I self admittedly am in many ways, the indisputable fact is that my client is Hailey, and I'll try my best to bring her home. I'm not looking for who did it, why they did it, or what their motivation was, I'm looking for Hailey. If that's reason for personal attack on me, then fire away."<br /><br />So, he is NOT looking for who did it or why? Wow. Enough said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-82988962803188146152012-10-22T11:13:39.550-04:002012-10-22T11:13:39.550-04:00I referred to it as "the diaper bag" alm...I referred to it as "the diaper bag" almost all of the time. I probably referred to it as Arielle's diaper bag if taking it to a babysitter. I don't recall ever referring to it as "my diaper bag" however. I didn't tend to put my own things in it, it was usually filled up with all of her stuff so there wasn't any room. <br /><br />I agree that the details of him turning blue is like guilty knowledge. another part i found disturbing is when logan calls her and asks where she is she says " I dont' exist anymore, I'm a ghost". Its almost like a freudian slip she gives that the possibility of someone not existing or being a ghost is on her mind in the first place. I believe this was part of the same phonecal in which she tells him she killed him. I could be wrong abotu that part but the ghost reference perked my ears. instead of sayign she's on the run, she's out of the country, etc all thsoe things she says she's a ghostLadyluck WInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-68144291743563582922012-10-22T10:57:42.326-04:002012-10-22T10:57:42.326-04:00Peter, I agree, I have never referred to my diaper...Peter, I agree, I have never referred to my diaper bag as "her" diaper bag that I can recall. I carry one now & I think I refer to it as "the" when someone else is taking the baby. I will say not to forget the diaper bag, or something similar. So "the" or "my" ...but I can't recall a situation where I would use "her" diaper bag.<br />Before I read your analysis, that statement struck me funny already, but I didn't know why (yet).<br /><br />I see that people keep sending in comments on the Hailey Dunn case ... can you do another analysis of more recent comments, or maybe a question/answer page since comments or speaking is not done as much. Or maybe why someone thinks she/they are guilty or innocent? I don't know ... there just has to be a break in this case soon.<br /><br />I can't believe all of these cases that they can not find the evidence to convict ... these people are not that smart for crying out loud!!!! Especially this couple (BD & SA) Have you heard them SPEAK?!!!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9346465020733936712012-10-22T00:52:12.875-04:002012-10-22T00:52:12.875-04:00With all three of my kids, my husband and I called...With all three of my kids, my husband and I called it "the" diaper bag, as in, "Is the diaper bag in the car?" and, "Could you bring me the diaper bag?"<br /><br />Re Lisa Irwin's parents' latest statement:<br /><br />“Every day without her is hard and there is no such thing as normalcy anymore. Every day we wake up hoping it will be the day she comes home to us,” Bradley and Irwin said, according to KMBC . “Until that day happens our family will continue to be incomplete without her…Her two brothers are waiting for her to come home so they can play with her again.”<br /><br />They not only don't use her name, they do things such as saying the obvious, that "there's no such thing as normalcy anymore." Well, DUH! Isn't that a given? Also, the family isn't complete without her--another DUH. Finally, her brothers are "waiting for her to come home so they can play with her again"--is that all? Just so they have another playmate? <br /><br />What about Lisa? What might she be feeling? (She's not alive and they know it, but hey, let's at least keep up the pretense.) Why is it all about how they feel about "her"? And, "we" this, "we" that. How "we"ak.<br /><br />I would expect them to say, if they were innocent in Lisa's disappearance, something along the lines of, "Where is Lisa? Every day, I wake up and wonder where she is, if she's getting enough to eat, is she being treated well, is she scared, what I can do to help her adjust to being with us again, etc." Amaleen6noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-59011608074475717582012-10-21T23:39:13.756-04:002012-10-21T23:39:13.756-04:00I agree lisagfinch. I think the stalking/harassing...I agree lisagfinch. I think the stalking/harassing could have and most likely contributed to her unhappiness, which lead to her death. I don't think she was murdered though. I think she had many things combined, which caused her death. :(MissUndetstoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-49762857313763858372012-10-21T23:33:17.588-04:002012-10-21T23:33:17.588-04:00The diaper bag is an important tool for a mother w...The diaper bag is an important tool for a mother who loves her baby. If you think about it, the real purpose of the diaper bag is to give the mother access to almost everything her baby needs to be comfortable and happy while away from home. I'll never forget the excitement I felt anticipating the birth of my son. While pregnant I spent hours picking out the many things I would need once he was born: one of which being MY diaper bag. I wanted a really good diaper bag, one that I felt would be easy to tote while big enough to include everything I thought my son might need at any given time. I ordered one special because I deemed it such a vital tool. I think it was a reflection of the happiness and excitement I felt in having my baby.<br />As we've all been able to easily discern, there seems to be dis-connect with Elizabeth and the normal emotions a mother feels for her baby. The diaper bag was not hers but Gabriel's. I think most mothers feel their children are an extension of themselves. Taking care of their children is a natural urge we feel and enjoy. It's not a chore. Unfortunately, with Elizabeth Gabriel was not a part of her but an object she either possessed or didn't possess. Maybe the diaper bag was " Gabriel's" because it represented all the "unpleasant chores" that went along with taking care of him. Therefore, it was easy for that monster mom to discard Gabriel like trash along with "his" diaper bag. That poor baby. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02097156533840476283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-17533337707692421562012-10-21T23:10:34.234-04:002012-10-21T23:10:34.234-04:00I haven't read the latest post...I am only on ...I haven't read the latest post...I am only on day 31 of the stalking, and I am reading it in order, from start to finish...I don't really know which text you are referring to that her mom left out info about...maybe I haven't gotten that far into the story yet?Mistynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-36517125865096907842012-10-21T23:02:27.337-04:002012-10-21T23:02:27.337-04:005 times they could of used Lisa's name and fiv...5 times they could of used Lisa's name and five times they call Lisa "Her" distancing themselves ..John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-62123012425506491802012-10-21T22:57:46.053-04:002012-10-21T22:57:46.053-04:00Who is "her"she never mentions Lisa'...Who is "her"she never mentions Lisa's name,that's just for starters..John Mc Gowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430624388902099338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-87809467447134665332012-10-21T22:36:13.865-04:002012-10-21T22:36:13.865-04:00OT: Hi Peter, I was surprised to see the almost c...OT: Hi Peter, I was surprised to see the almost complete lack of media coverage of the Baby Lisa disappearance one year later. I did find one little blurb and it just doesn't sit right with me. Any chance you or some of the talent around here could take a look and post what you think? <br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br /><b>“Every day without her is hard and there is no such thing as normalcy anymore. Every day we wake up hoping it will be the day she comes home to us,” Bradley and Irwin said, according to KMBC . “Until that day happens our family will continue to be incomplete without her…Her two brothers are waiting for her to come home so they can play with her again.”</b>Elizabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-2072072941888235622012-10-21T22:20:37.672-04:002012-10-21T22:20:37.672-04:00I called it "the" diaper bag unless I ha...I called it "the" diaper bag unless I had to distinguish it from someone else's, then it was "my", never the babes. Red Rydernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7164794708270892518.post-9761251913045995342012-10-21T22:18:14.434-04:002012-10-21T22:18:14.434-04:00Back in the day, I always said "the diaper ba...Back in the day, I always said "the diaper bag". Like someone mentioned, the only time it would be "his" diaper bag, is if he were being left at Grandma's house for a bit, I'd say "Here's his diaper bag/stuff." If I were caring for more than one child at a time, which did happen with mine, nieces and nephews, then I'd specify by first name.CECnoreply@blogger.com