My first impression (I am not an expert nor I have much experience in SA) is that the subject uses too many words. "wickedly" is a qualification (?), he/she is trying to sound like a victim.
The tense is also strange... He/She is still manipulated? He/she didn't say "I was manipulated"
Justice Minister Says He Smacked Own Children Chris Grayling admits to having occasionally smacked his two children when they were young, saying it "sends a message".
Justice Secretary Chris Grayling has defended parents' right to smack their children - and admitted he did it to his own.
The Conservative Cabinet minister said he was not opposed to smacking youngsters, saying sometimes it "sends a message".
Mr Grayling has two children, aged 20 and 16, with his wife Susan.
He admitted to occasionally smacking them when they were younger.
"You chastise children when they are bad, as my parents did me," he told the Mail on Sunday.
"I'm not opposed to smacking. It is to be used occasionally. Sometimes it sends a message - but I don't hanker for the days when children were severely beaten at school."
Following his comments, sources close to the minister said he used the punishment only when "really warranted".
In a statement the NSPCC said: "Whilst parents are currently allowed to smack their children, the evidence is continuing to build that it is ineffective and harmful to children.
"There are more positive and constructive ways to discipline children and a clear message that hitting anyone is not right would benefit all of society."
Gut reaction is that there are too many words either for story building/convincing.
"have been" sounds more passive than "was". If the manipulation was "wicked" and the friends were "treacherous" I would expect things to be more strongly stated. I guess what I'm seeing is a strange combo of passivity and strong language.
The more I think about it, the more I am going to agree with Trigger that the subject is exaggerating at best and lying at worst.
"I have been wickedly manipulated by treacherous friends."
I = First person singular
have been = past verbs
wickedly = is this a new england descriptor (wicked)
manipulated = passive
treacherous friends = friends would not be treacherous, they would be enemies.
I'm going to take a guess that this statement is deceptive and should be flagged. It is a blaming statement and the author starts out strong with "I have been" but then weakens the statement with the extra words and mixed message of "treacherous friends"
I sorrowfully acknowledge that seven years ago.... I was wickedly manipulated by treacherous former friends and colleagues who victimized me with the aid of a female confederate. They conspired to betray me into a sexual encounter at a time of great stress in my marital life.... I was set up as part of a scheme to co-opt me and obtain some advantage for themselves over me in connection with their hope for position in the ministry. -- Jim Bakker, I Was Wrong
Passive Too many qualifiers This person takes no responsibility for his/her actions Calls who ever led him/her astray "friends", thus claiming a closeness with them.
PH didn't you once write here that wicked is a term known to Mainer's?
Wicked Cold
Is this along the same terminology? or no?
I watched a food channel show, competition, and a woman participating was from Maine. She used it, the term " Wicked" and it brought me back to your once written here.
Apple said... Uh oh Hobs, Someone is upset at your SA's...
Oh dear, i am heartbroken and ashamed. It is always the same when discrepancies are pointed out, analysis of words spoken by the subject hit a sensitive spot,
all they succeed in doing is focusing my attention on what has caused them to respond and cause me to get the large pointy stick of nosiness and prod them with it to see who bites and about what. hehe
Hey anon that was a few posts back! I too am lucky with friends, and miss the days before iphones and other electronics usurped real face to face human interaction.
My first impression (I am not an expert nor I have much experience in SA) is that the subject uses too many words. "wickedly" is a qualification (?), he/she is trying to sound like a victim.
ReplyDeleteThe tense is also strange... He/She is still manipulated? He/she didn't say "I was manipulated"
first person singular
ReplyDeletepast tense verb usage
but not specific as to accusation
treacherous friends is an oxymoron
treacherous people, acquaintances, cohorts, thugs, etc. would be more appropriate nouns.
He is lying.
OT
ReplyDeleteJustice Minister Says He Smacked Own Children
Chris Grayling admits to having occasionally smacked his two children when they were young, saying it "sends a message".
Justice Secretary Chris Grayling has defended parents' right to smack their children - and admitted he did it to his own.
The Conservative Cabinet minister said he was not opposed to smacking youngsters, saying sometimes it "sends a message".
Mr Grayling has two children, aged 20 and 16, with his wife Susan.
He admitted to occasionally smacking them when they were younger.
"You chastise children when they are bad, as my parents did me," he told the Mail on Sunday.
"I'm not opposed to smacking. It is to be used occasionally. Sometimes it sends a message - but I don't hanker for the days when children were severely beaten at school."
Following his comments, sources close to the minister said he used the punishment only when "really warranted".
In a statement the NSPCC said: "Whilst parents are currently allowed to smack their children, the evidence is continuing to build that it is ineffective and harmful to children.
"There are more positive and constructive ways to discipline children and a clear message that hitting anyone is not right would benefit all of society."
http://news.sky.com/story/1046813/justice-minister-says-he-smacked-own-children
Gut reaction is that there are too many words either for story building/convincing.
ReplyDelete"have been" sounds more passive than
"was". If the manipulation was "wicked" and the friends were "treacherous" I would expect things to be more strongly stated. I guess what I'm seeing is a strange combo of passivity and strong language.
The more I think about it, the more I am going to agree with Trigger that the subject is exaggerating at best and lying at worst.
Off Topic:
ReplyDeleteMy husband and I watched the movie "Groundhog Day" last night.
One of the characters says of a deceased co-worker, "He was a really really great guy. I really really liked him, a lot."
We smiled at eachother and we were both thinking of statement analysis.
Uh oh Hobs,
ReplyDeleteSomeone is upset at your SA's...
http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=912
ReplyDeleteOT,
ReplyDeleteDid i read somewhere that Peter is writing a book on SA?
If so does anyone Know when its being published?
Thanks
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ReplyDelete"I have been wickedly manipulated by treacherous friends."
ReplyDeleteI = First person singular
have been = past verbs
wickedly = is this a new england descriptor (wicked)
manipulated = passive
treacherous friends = friends would not be treacherous, they would be enemies.
I'm going to take a guess that this statement is deceptive and should be flagged. It is a blaming statement and the author starts out strong with "I have been" but then weakens the statement with the extra words and mixed message of "treacherous friends"
"I was wickedly manipulated by treacherous FORMER friends and colleagues who victimized me..."
ReplyDelete- I believe this is the correct quote. And it goes on.
The subject is not taking responsibility for their actions and trying to cast blame onto others.
Does anyone know who said it?
ReplyDeletePeter
I believe Jim Baker did.
ReplyDeleteGoogled it & here's what I came up with :
ReplyDeleteI sorrowfully acknowledge that seven years ago.... I was wickedly manipulated by treacherous former friends and colleagues who victimized me with the aid of a female confederate. They conspired to betray me into a sexual encounter at a time of great stress in my marital life.... I was set up as part of a scheme to co-opt me and obtain some advantage for themselves over me in connection with their hope for position in the ministry. -- Jim Bakker, I Was Wrong
Passive
ReplyDeleteToo many qualifiers
This person takes no responsibility for his/her actions
Calls who ever led him/her astray "friends", thus claiming a closeness with them.
"Treacherous friends"
ReplyDeletepeople he is close to that he knew were wrong to be with....a danger to some part of his life (marriage, career, etc )
Wickedly - or Wicked
ReplyDeletePH didn't you once write here that wicked is a term known to Mainer's?
Wicked Cold
Is this along the same terminology?
or no?
I watched a food channel show, competition, and a woman participating was from Maine. She used it, the term " Wicked" and it brought me back to your once written here.
Apple said...
ReplyDeleteUh oh Hobs,
Someone is upset at your SA's...
Oh dear, i am heartbroken and ashamed.
It is always the same when discrepancies are pointed out, analysis of words spoken by the subject hit a sensitive spot,
all they succeed in doing is focusing my attention on what has caused them to respond and cause me to get the large pointy stick of nosiness and prod them with it to see who bites and about what.
hehe
I miss friends dropping by….
ReplyDeleteHey anon that was a few posts back! I too am lucky with friends, and miss the days before iphones and other electronics usurped real face to face human interaction.
ReplyDeleteI was wickedly manipulated
ReplyDeletepassive: wickedness occurred but on the part of those who manipulated me, not me, I am just a passive receiver of this manipulation
by treacherous friends
This person refers to friends as treacherous, yet still refers to them as friends.
I think the person is projecting blame for something the subject did onto others.