Friday, October 21, 2016

Amanda Blackburn Murder: Post Crime Behavior



One element of analysis that is particularly difficult is "attendant deception"; that is, one is deceptive about one thing, but not another.  

In many major crimes, lesser crimes are committed "in attendance" to the major crime and can show up in statements.  In other cases, substance abuse often multiplies crimes, making it more difficult, not to spot guilt, but to assign it.  

For example, in a missing and murdered child case, the father was deceptive.  Yet, he was not the killer; a sex offender was.  His deception was indicated while his daughter was missing, but it later proved to be deception about negligence due to substance abuse, allowing for his daughter to wander off.  

Deception and Guilt in Language 

We (a team of analysts) strongly discussed the deception within the language of Davey Blackburn.  Although he is likely hiding SSA, there was too much deception related to the timing of the crime, suggesting knowledge that his home would be hit by criminals, with the necessity of the almost 40 minute delay.  

Regarding the case,  I have yet to find a single professional investigator who disagrees.  

With SSA, there can be lots of varying topics of deception, from his marriage, to the teaching of Christianity, right down to his public image, that he is acutely aware of and actively refining.  

Since his wife was killed "for the church", he has sought to fulfill this "mandate from god" (he is not delusional, hearing voices; he is deceptive).  This is where he was naked in the shower hearing from the Almighty what a great and historical figure, he, Davey, is, and what great accomplishments await him.  He has been shamelessly promoting and exploiting her death since, but there is something more:

Perhaps Amanda's restraints upon his "success" were more than what he indicated when he told us  that she stood in the way of success because she wanted his time and attention.  

Sociopathic and narcissistic behavior seek justification.  We see this in analysis with subtle insult or blame shifting to the victim. 

From Blackburn's own wording:   3 intruders did not murder Amanda, Amanda "gave her life" in "martyrdom" so that "the church would have life." 

Recall in his "shower revelation" (criminal psychology and statement analysis recognize the need for cleansing) where he then set the stage for shifting responsibility to others, should he not become the historic figure the Almighty 'told' him he would be.  He targeted the church audience, and his father-in-law, of whom he insulted for his work produced "dead" Christians.  If he failed, he would have others to blame; not himself.  The lack of personal responsibility is a strong trait of liars.  

Amanda As Hinderance To Success 

Although Amanda, who in video appearances presented as a lovely and authentic believer in Christianity, allowed for a ready-to-use excuse, she was, he told us pre crime, a hinderance to his self defined success. 

His subtle contempt for her was evident in the videos by his language, demeanor and even in his body language.  He interrupted her, corrected her and even his comparative language "of success", using his own rebuttal, show an obsession with numbers.  Scripture teaches joy in heaven from one sinner repenting, "but", as he used in public video, his numerical goal was not met.  This was a video that produced the pronoun "I" in his language  a dramatic change from the incessant use of "we" in his televised appearances.  This nullifies the claim of mental illness.  

With the new videos and blog postings we see a more defined effeminate appearance and deeper choreographic work in the videos as he 'out Elmer Gantrys' Burt Lancaster's character.  The appearance of the narcissistic showman has increased and the self promotion to "help" the Almighty has become emboldened.  

He told us, in his own language, that he was obsessed with numbers for his success.

He told us that his wife did not meet his sexual needs and that she hindered him because she wanted him around, keeping him from his self defined success. 

He openly complained about her in a most humiliating and demeaning manner, while he expressed an acute need to make certain his public knew he was heterosexual.   

He video taped himself waving a gun. Shortly after, his wife died from the use of a gun.  

He followed a strict daily and weekly workout routine, all but once, the very day  his home was entered and his wife killed. 

He told the public that she was not murdered, but "martyred" and that "she died so the church could live", supplanting the redemptive work of Christ. 

That he publicly told that Amanda could not meet his sexual needs and that he was directed by the Almighty, while naked in the shower receiving information on his own greatness, combines sexuality with the need to be cleansed from guilt.  

We now take these things, along with consistent deceptive indicators in the public statements and we look at the post-crime behavior. 

This has raised a question that needs an answer: 

Has the restraining influence of Amanda now been removed from Blackburn?

Is it more than just in the element of her taking up his time?

As he continues to write, he continues to reveal more information about himself, and about the crime.  

It would be interesting to learn:  What does the victim's family think of the 'new' Davey?

Is her family continuing to read what he says about their daughter? Had a man publicly announced that his wife does not meet his sexual needs would trigger a very strong response from most families, in particular, fathers.  Yet, Blackburn publicly subjugated his father in law with insult.  

Is her family watching the videos showing a visible and audible transformation now that their daughter is out of the way?

Blackburn's  language indicates a need to justify her death.  It is not just used for commercial advantage.   

As he continues this path, I expect an increase, even in spite of various pauses or warnings that cause a pause.  As numbers grow, he will alienate Christians who will no longer be able to dismiss his claim of Amanda being the substitutionary death for the Church to as just the wild emotional swing of a man deep in bereavement.  This means he will have to continue to change the Biblical message into the 'gospel of davey'; that is, to tailor the message to fulfill the messenger's insatiable appetite for fame, power, control and fortune.  

Christians, too, see the insult to Christ in his words, even now, as he continues his promotion.  Early on, some felt the need to defend him but as he continues to assault Christianity, commenting has shown a change.  Although many did not consider him Christian based upon his teaching, others may have excused the teaching as errant, while maintaining that he still may believe in the basic teachings of Christianity.  

Will he continue this pattern?  Will the outfits, designed sets, choreography, polishing,  and showmanship continue?  Was this what his mentor intended to communicate when he said that "something was wrong" with Blackburn and it was something a woman "could fix"?  

Beneath the deception is the unknown, which, over time, makes its way to the surface, like the "Tell Tale Heart."  

As numerical success increases, the successful  alienate their own selves and insulate themselves from criticism and will endlessly excuse their own behavior, even as his mentor has shown recently.  Even the "mea culpas" not only minimize, but actually shift blame to others.  Other times, the mea culpa is so 'over the top' that the need to persuade becomes transparent, even without analysis.   

Post criminal behavior and post crime behavior are both noteworthy.  


Was Amanda a restraint upon Blackburn, protecting him from himself, and now removed?  

Was the protection from self only due to sexuality and time constraints, or is it much deeper?

Time will tell.  

Amanda Blackburn was not a "martyr", nor did she "give her life" for any cause. 

Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide

It was her husband who stated that he received communication from God, while naked, in the shower, being cleansed.  




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Bobcat said...

Concerned,

I sent links to the Marion County Prosecutor.

I've also sent links to contacts that are encouraged to do their due diligence before contracting with DB.

That reminds me -- Davey said he filmed an episode of a show that is being produced by Roma Downey and Mark Burnett. I know Roma has branched into lucrative religious reality TV programming. Bingo said the show was "Overcome" but I can't find anything on it, nor did I hear DB say that title in his recent sermon.

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Bingo said...

Bobcat, Davey stated the name "Overcome" in an earlier sermon. I will try to find it or remember. The actual show filmed a week or two ago and he loved pointing out when they filmed him getting out of bed. They also told him he should be an actor. Do they not realize he already is?

Did everyone see that Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" on February 23, 2017 at 9am EST to take live calls about the murder of Amanda Blackburn. Details to follow. Very, very good news.

Statement Analysis Blog said...

why would anyone assume low level thugs were told why they were to target this home at this time?

Anonymous said...

Interesting that Roma Downey and Mark Burnett would develop a religious TV network. Both of those two are cheaters- Roma Downey cheated with Michael Nouri, who left his wife who was stricken with MS for Downey, and Burnett cheated on both ex-wives. Wonder how long Downey's marriage to Burnett will last, given their track records. Sounds like the perfect platform for Davey.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 9:21

Downey and Burnett are very good at what they do.

They've studied the data, and the gravy train of Christian broadcasting is their new ride.

Anonymous said...

Peter Hyatt said...
why would anyone assume low level thugs were told why they were to target this home at this time?
January 31, 2017 at 9:20 AM



The only people I've seen with that theory are a few commenters here. It's really not difficult to imagine, though, because I doubt most of the overlords of these drug gangs are not particularly bright or savvy, unlike tv depictions.

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Anonymous said...
Peter Hyatt said...
why would anyone assume low level thugs were told why they were to target this home at this time?
January 31, 2017 at 9:20 AM



The only people I've seen with that theory are a few commenters here. It's really not difficult to imagine, though, because I doubt most of the overlords of these drug gangs are not particularly bright or savvy, unlike tv depictions.
February 1, 2017 at 5:58 AM


Approximately how many of these drug overlords have you interviewed to obtain this opinion?

Peter Hyatt

Anonymous said...

I stated an opinion based upon a lifetime of experience and having crossed paths with all kinds of people. It's not difficult to judge intelligence, and it doesn't require interviews.

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Anonymous said...
I stated an opinion based upon a lifetime of experience and having crossed paths with all kinds of people. It's not difficult to judge intelligence, and it doesn't require interviews.
February 1, 2017 at 5:34 PM


Unless your lifetime experience includes countless "experiences" and verbal "crossing of paths" with gang members, you've no clue as to expectations within a gang.

It is very difficult to judge intelligence of gang members and it sounds like your only reference was what you cited: television.

It doesn't just take interviews, it takes hundreds of samples to build an expected. Even this, however, may not be enough.

Gang members use their own language and their own culture. Analysts with experience interviewing gang members often cross reference rather than trust their own baseline.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Spinning tragedy (or near tragedy) into God stories for publication is nothing new in Davey's family. Just minor embellishments to enhance the vision.

http://totheclimb.blogspot.com/2011/04/jonos-near-death-experience-reprint.html

Concerned said...

Bobcat @ 2:41
Those Blackburns do have a knack for lying.
One would have to be really gullible to buy a story like this
considering Jono's young age.
It does show us that Davey's father obviously taught him from
early childhood that truth was an "iffy" thing.

Anonymous said...

Concerned,

What REALLY bothers me on top of everything else that is despicable about this case, is that Amanda's sister Amber is not above embellishing (LYING about) her story; just so it can be repackaged into a syrupy sweet blog/short story.

And yes, the apple didn't fall fall in DAVEY's case.

How could his father admit being a lifeguard in the past, and being in the same vicinity where Jono drowns? I would be horrified to admit I was such a neglectful parent...unless he made up the whole story...

>end rant

Trudy said...

P 2 tha H @ 6:10 Yo fo Shizuoka da nizzy homies gots dey own way of kulcha and of komunnik8in word - ain't no triflin slob if u wanna make bank HMU for percs 420

I want to bring this up again - Mel the dog. Where was she? Ever since crazy Davey mentioned that he, himself, stipulated that Amanda's new puppy HAD to be a Boxer dog, it's been nagging at me.

Why a boxer? So I've being doing a little bit of research about boxers. They are large dogs and very active. They require lots of exercise. They are extremely alert, loyal and PROTECTIVE. They react to unusual noises. I've read hundreds of accounts of boxers, growling, barking, menacing and attacking when those they love are threatened. That seems a good reason to insist on a particular breed. Is that the reason cd insisted upon a boxer?

We know that Mel was devoted to Amanda and, almost literally, never left her side. We know that Mel was allowed in the house and even on the lounge. We know that crazy d was up at 4:30am and left the house at 6:11. Over 90 minutes. Did he see her? Pat her? Did he feed her? Let her out to do her business?

So. Again. Where was Mel? Was she locked in a room? Why? I mean, if part of the reason crazy dbag insisted on Amanda getting a boxer puppy was for protection, why would you lock her up at night, instead of letting her patrol the perimeters, as it were? Why would you keep her locked up for over 90 mins while you were up and about, early in the morning? I don't know, but it bothers me. That dog should have been growling, barking, and protecting Amanda and Weston. In fact, burglars avoid houses with dogs like the plague. The sound/sight of Mel should have nipped this so called crime of opportunism in the bud.

It's just another minor loose thread in this whole quilted "masterpiece."

As an aside it really speaks to crazy dbags shabby character, that he could give away his murdered wife's beloved dog - that they'd had since it was a puppy.

While I was researching the breed, I discovered that they become excessively attached to those they love and suffer terribly from separation anxiety. Ouch.

flightfulbird said...

OK, what does it say about me that I am actually angry after reading the above-linked account of Jono Blackburn's near drowning experience, of his seeing Gwamma and hearing her telling him to swim and therefore saving his life, even though he had only seen her a few times in his life because she lived so far away in California?

Wow, the Blackburn family knows how to write things that desperately try to pull at the heartstrings. TOO many coinidences in this story too. And Amber doesn't miss a chance to try for some tears as well.

flightfulbird said...

On a more positive note, how can I hear Peter's Crime Wire appearance on February 23rd from 6am to 7:30am Pacific time?

I saw the Facebook page and it says it will be a live broadcast with phone lines and chat room open ! Here's hoping someone can tell me how to access the broadcast - to say that I am looking forward to it is a major understatement.

Here's hoping this broadcast, with Peter's analysis and the questions raised, will bring some much-needed attention to this case and maybe even break it wide open.

Trudy said...

Flightful, it says you have a heart. And a bulls#⃣1⃣t detector.

Anonymous said...

He sets up the story blah-blah-blahing about how old Jono was in 1989 and that his mother died in 1989.

Granted, he created his fictional piece 20 years later, but his mother died in 1990.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58479868&ref=acom

Yet he can remember a bunch of exact dates in 1989: July 1, July 4, etc. Jono would only have been 7 months old, and his mother was still alive.




Now I really wonder if the big lie that led to the entire family leaving town, involved Davey's father as well.

He changed preaching jobs at least five times before settling into "obscurity" in his current location.

I wonder if the obscurity is intentionally low profile.

Trudy said...

My point about the dog is that cd not only left the door unlocked while his pregnant wife and toddler son were asleep in their beds, he also deliberately left the dog ( a breed known for its protective nature, bravery and threat to intruders) locked up for the killer's convenience.

Anonymous said...

So. Again. Where was Mel? Was she locked in a room? Why? . . .

. . . Why would you keep her locked up for over 90 mins while you were up and about, early in the morning?. . .

. . . In fact, burglars avoid houses with dogs like the plague. The sound/sight of Mel should have nipped this so called crime of opportunism in the bud. . . .



If Mel hadn't been locked up somewhere while "Amanda's life was being taken" (trademark Amber - way to minimize and sugar coat a MURDER, much less of your sister?) - - there would've been paw prints everywhere - and that's assuming the "thugs" could have even gotten inside and close to Amanda without this boxer protecting her.

The iIMPD detectives indicated in press conference early on that when they found Mel - "the dog seemed very glad to see them" (paraphrasing) - and if I remember correctly they said she was found in a bedroom. Which begs the question, wouldn't this instinctively protective dog have been going absolutely berserk with the commotion going on in the living room?

Posters have mentioned this before, but although neighbor Natasha states she heard two gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream (and knew the exact time she woke up and heard this), nobody on the street mentioned hearing a barking dog - or a frantic crying toddler or any indication of a disturbance going on.

Oh never mind about Weston crying - Davey has assured us that Weston was cooing softly from behind the door. Weston was all good. But Davey never mentioned Mel - why?

Or did Mel know the attacker and that was why nobody heard barking? She wouldn't react to Davey as a hostile intruder - she would've trusted him and thought he belonged in the house - - although it would've been really cool if she could've seen through Davey's lies and deception and realized his capabilities.

Yes, just another coincidence - how lucky for the (alleged) killer thugs that a protective dog about whom Amanda wrote on social media "literally never leaves my side" would be totally out of the picture that morning until detectives arrived.

I wonder, does Zyrtec "work on" dogs too ?


flightfulbird said...

^ ^ above post at 12:56pm from flightfulbird ^ ^

Anonymous said...

Press Conference 11/23/2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZwUouFESUw

Question: And then, what is basically, are we looking at a, a pattern, a crime wave, a spur of the moment, [8:42 Detective Lehn moves head side to side and frowns] somebody’s gonna have a real violent six hours. What was this?
Detective Lehn: Uh, opportunity, I think. Uh, they, they took, they took the opportunity to take one burglary and it led to another, and in doing the others, they, it led to, uh, the opportunity to last, do, to do the last one.

Question: Why would they have targeted the Blackburn neighborhood? Were any of your suspects known to that neighborhood, [9:02 Detective Lehn nods, turns up corners of mouth] or that neighborhood known to them?
[9:04 Detective Lehn looks to his left before responding]
Detective Lehn: Um. It’s. Uh they’re, they’re from the Northwest side. I can’t. I mean, why they targeted that specific neighborhood, [9:11 moves head side to side] I don’t know.

Anonymous said...

From the same video above:

Question: [11:12] There is a lot of suspicion out there that quite possibly, the Blackburns knew their attackers or had some type of connection to them. Can you say that is not the case here today?

Curry: Uh, I think it’s fair to say there is no reason [11:22 moves head side to side] to believe that’s the case.

------------------------

In due time, Davey.

flightfulbird said...

Wow what a roundabout way to say "we believe there was no connection". . .or even "there's no evidence to support that".

Because he can't say it !

Major hedge from Curry.

Bingo said...

Oddest police press conference I have ever seen.

Anonymous said...

Lol

He can't say it because there is no truth to the suggestion.

Anonymous said...

Then why not just say "that's not the case" ?

Anonymous said...

There is not only no evidence whatsoever of DB involvement in Amanda's murder, there is no evidence it was a murder for hire and no evidence of anyone other than the thugs arrested who were involved. LE has said that on more than one occasion, and they also said from the beginning the suspects were being cooperative. You can bet by now, investigators would have names of any others who may have been involved.

No evidence. None. Just a theory rampant in blog comments.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 3:41

Keep your eyes closed, hands over your ears, and keep saying "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"!

Trudy said...

You do not understand what constitutes evidence. Or a theory. A theory cannot exist without evidence.
Go to the bottom of the class.





Anonymous said...

Anon @3:41, what is the "evidence"? Name it.

Trudy, for god's sake, you can't just make up your own definition the way you create your useless theories in these comments.

For your assistance:

the·o·ry
ˈTHirē/
noun
a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

"Darwin's theory of evolution"
synonyms: hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption,

presupposition; More
a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based.
"a theory of education"

an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
"my theory would be that the place has been seriously mismanaged"


Lots of the bolded going on around here.

Anonymous said...

The Davey bone is connected to the...Treezy bone.

The Treezy bone is connected to the...Alonzo bone.

The Alonzo bone is connected to the murder of Amanda.

The forensic evidence is there, and LE certainly knows about it.

Trudy said...

Hi Bobcat, Bingo, FF and everyone, one of the weirdest things said at that police presser was - " how dare you take something from a dead person?" I hope I quoted correctly.

Take something from a dead person? Surely theft pales in comparison with murder! How about "how dare you murder a pregnant woman in her own home? Why save the moral condemnation for the robbery of a dead person? Odd.

I know that Nic and some others here have a suspicion that crazy dbag shot Amanda himself and the thugs arrived afterwards. I do not subscribe to that theory, personally, but the above quote seems to support it.

OT . Hey Jude, if your're still around, I agree about interrogation techniques used on Jennifer Pan and Dylan Roof. "Anyone would have done the same thing, it was only a matter of time, you had no choice etc. etc.". Creepy. In fact, Jennnifer Pan made a formal complaint against the cop that interviewed her, citing coercion or some such. If you want to see some smooth interviewing, check out the police interview with Canadian air colonel - Russell Williams - if you haven't already.

Trudy said...

Haha. Let's add "definition" to the list of words, @7:17 doesn't undersatnd.

I didn't define anything. I posited that there is a direct correlation between evidence and theory. It's this simple. Evidence supports a theory the way foundations support a house. If the evidence is faulty or missing, the theory is weakened and may collapse. You were the one who brought up theory and evidence. I am discussing logical and lexical semantics.

Also, the bolded part of your statement makes no sense and makes you appear foolish.

Trudy said...

@7:17. You realise that every example of "theory" you copied and pasted, relies on evidence. Right?

Anonymous said...

There was no example of theory. There was the definition of theory, and no, it does not rely on evidence.

Read it again.

What evidence can you cite against DB?

Anonymous said...

http://fox59.com/2015/11/13/impd-chief-rick-hite-to-talk-about-crime-in-city-and-amanda-blackburns-murder/

Press Conference 11/13/2015

Partial Transcription of Segment Two, Police chief Rick Hite:
Chief continues with the narration that they need people to speak up.

"Families have turned in their loves ones because they recognize, it just wasn’t right. Safe surrender, folks. Don’t aid and abet or assist anyone in these types of crimes. ... You’ve heard me say that before. We brought to justice those folks who were involved in [unintelligible] and the, and the Spring Hill home invasion. Mem-, mem, remember Adrian Anthony, remember the, the self-imposed, uh, interview he had, uh, where he talked about his, his, his, faith to understand why he did anything wrong and all those things."

Question:
Somebody knows that there are some TVs that showed up…so, so what do you say to people who are not coming forward but know that these are the guys.

Chief Hite: I can remember, some people having jewelry.
I remember a man in a wheelchair who refused to cooperate with us, who was fencing some of the things in the Spring Hill home invasion. They all, including the wheelchair, went to jail with him.
And I’m simply saying this, that you cannot hide, from the law. If- People talk. They’re talking all over the place. Whether in barber shops, in churches, restaurants, people are talking right now about this. So we all are watching. We’re all listening. We have a lot of eyes and ears right now on, on this case. How can you hide? How can you, how can you; how DARE you, take something from a dead person and want to sell it! And think we’re not going to know about it? Somebody’s gonna tell about it. Somebody’s gonna tell who did it, and who you were, when you were, and where you were, and what your involvement in it.

Sirensong said...

I wonder what was taken from Amanda after she was murdered. Her wedding ring? They keep saying it was just a computer and books, but obviously something personal was taken if that detective was right. Can't help but wonder if CD took something off her and didn't tell.

Anonymous said...

Part Two, Chief Hite

Question: Are you saying that this was a burglary gone wrong?

Chief Hite: I believe that then, that believe we can say it was, it was, there was no forced entry. That I think we can say it wasn’t, it wasn’t, it wasn’t a typical home invasion. It was a- There was no forced entry. And I think, in some cases, you heard about burglars in the neighborhood. You heard the connection to that. So we clear about what we’re saying, but we also saying to people, if you see something, say something in the neighborhood.

Question: Was this person acting alone?
Chief Hite: Well, we just talked about aiding and abetting. No criminal acts alone. Someone has to take those, take those TVs. Somebody had to come up with an idea. We don’t know whether they were alone or not, but I can, I suspect, in this case, you know for a fact people, fence, hold, sell, carry, things away from the crime. So they’re not alone. We just wanted those who didn’t buy in to all of this, to give it up, ‘cause we’re coming for you.

Anonymous said...

Davey had Amanda's wedding ring set at the interview one week later. His hands look very rough.

Photo: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o-TJiZ8Mv5o/WJbfPDD0arI/AAAAAAAAAxY/luKk6qEKMiES8wkmq-2hMxnIiI3G4yfBwCLcB/s1600/Untitled.png

Amanda had a watch that is visible in the Love Song video, and many pictures with Weston as a newborn. She'd worn the same watch for a few years.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kZ6mJPMTeq8/V_Wqi-xFzTI/AAAAAAAAAns/y2RVnROjkT8XtTYd2j7XUaS3_WQaXj9BQCLcB/s1600/rude.jpg


Anonymous said...

Corrected link to rough hand and rings photo:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o-TJiZ8Mv5o/WJbfPDD0arI/AAAAAAAAAxY/luKk6qEKMiES8wkmq-2hMxnIiI3G4yfBwCLcB/s1600/Untitled.png

Trudy said...

Thanks Bobcat. "How can you, how can you, how dare you take something from a dead person and want to sell it.?

"And WANT to sell it." Does that mean someone tried but failed to sell the thing? I wonder what it was. The police were certainly more incensed by the crime than Davey "the first time I felt any anger was when they were arrested" Blackburn.


@12:18 Examples of theory that YOU posted. Darwin's theory of evolution and Theory of education. Why don't you read what you posted again?




Bingo said...

His hands do look rough. I always had my suspicions about the scratch on his face. Haven't seen one scratch or blemish on his face since then.

Ok, so the thugs walked into the house, door unlocked, decide to steal a check card, take it to an ATM, instead of taking a diamond ring and and a big screen tv and fleeing? Hmmmm?

Peter states that he will be talking about why justice was not served in this case on Feb 23rd. I will be very interested to hear what he has to say on Crime Wire

Trudy said...

Me too!

And who the hell is Adrian Anthony?

Bobcat said...

Adrian Anthony came to mind by the Chief of Police during the Amanda Blackburn interview.

Adrian was involved in a previous brutal home invasion in Indianapolis. It's interesting to read this interview from the victims, who are a beautiful family and have moved forward from their ordeal without selling Jesus at every turn:
http://commonsensewonder.blogspot.com/2015/05/putting-lie-to-complaint-that-too-many.html

Adrian Anthony was one of the thugs involved in the home invasion. He will spend his life in prison. He talks on video about being the "nicest robber to ever walk in your door" and that "God" knows what happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N732GhJEkzA

As a baseline for home invasion, it's obvious that Amanda's murder wasn't a typical home invasion. It was a carefully plotted murder. It's also interesting to compare the Portenza victim reactions to Blackburn reactions.

Anon, there's a good reason LE is not talking about what they know/what they can prove.

Anonymous said...

"good reason LE is not talking about what they know/what they can prove."





Yes, that would fit the narrative here, but it's not necessarily correct.

Bingo said...

Bobcat, I don't ever think I have ever seen the interview where he shows the diamond ring around his neck. Gag me. I bet there will be a picture in his book. If a robber truly wanted to rob another house because they wanted more stuff, that ring would have been taken and the tv. Not a check chard.

Trudy said...

Is it possible that the ring was taken and somehow retrieved through the CI's info? The comment "how dare you take something from a dead person..." DOES sound very personal, as though the "thing" (singular) was removed from Amanda's body. (Ring/wrist watch)? As for the TV, crazy Davey said the thugs "tried to steal some things". Maybe they couldn't prise the tv from the wall or something. I doesn't make sense after stealing 4 tv from Alison B's that they wouldn't take the Blackburns TV. The Blackburns also had a gun. Guns are pretty high on the list of desirable things to steal, why didn't they take that? They were certainly there long enough to search the place thoroughly for valuable items. Taking a laptop and books is weird. Maybe not the lap top, but the books? That's just weird. What burglar steals books? Or doesn't open a bag to see what he's stealing? Stealing a credit/debit card is sort of expected, but if the modus operandi is to force the victim to give them the PIN, have one wait with the victim while the others go the the atm, why didn't they do that with Jacola S?
Stealing the credit/debit card is one thing, but going to several ATMs then RETURNING to the scene of a burglary, in a stolen vehicle is unheard of. Chief Hite was right. "It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, a typical home invasion"


Bobcat said...

The MO was murder by execution.

"Execution-style killing is most often a shot to the head, and victims sometimes are killed kneeling."

Amanda was in a posture of surrender.

Kneeling.

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"Stealing a credit/debit card is sort of expected, but if the modus operandi is to force the victim to give them the PIN, have one wait with the victim while the others go the the atm, why didn't they do that with Jacola S?"

Excellent question. Jacola's language is suspect.

Trudy said...

If the Black SUV didn't drive away with the 4 TVs, computers, etc , JW and DG must have had them in the Sebring.

That means that they drove back, in a vehicle stolen hours earlier, to a place they had already robbed WITH the stolen stuff still in their car to pick up someone that they knew had (at least) assaulted and held a woman hostage.

And they weren't worried about police.

They KNEW that Alison B couldn't report the break in until after a certain time or they wouldn't have risked going back.

So how did they know?

Alison B's movements must have been observed by someone for some time to establish a pattern of her arrivals and departures. (I've always wondered if she was late coming home that morning given the inordinate amount of time Davey had to wait in the driveway for her.)

There is no way Alison B's robbery was random.

There is no way that Amanda's murder was a "crime of opportunity".

(Is it really possible that 3 men stole a car and drove straight to an unoccupied home in a cul de sac by chance? To coin a phrase used a bit in this case, nobody is THAT lucky)






Anonymous said...

Police said at the time the thugs had been randomly and with no apparent pattern knocking off homes in the entire northwestern part of the city.

Last week, I noticed my neighbor pull into her driveway and remain in her car talking on her cell phone. Almost an hour later, I went to my car, and she was still on her cell phone in her car. So far, no one has been reported dead in her home.

Yesterday, I was talking on my phone to a friend as I drove home from work and sat in the car for about half an hour before going inside as I finished the conversation with her. I have found no dead body in my home.

Amanda's dog was supposed to bark and raise a ruckus at the thugs, and yet, the dog didn't bark at police entering the home, but greeted them in a friendly manner. Why didn't the dog bark at police?

Anonymous said...

"Police said at the time the thugs had been randomly and with no apparent pattern knocking off homes in the entire northwestern part of the city."



Quote or link?

Anonymous said...

Trudy

"And they weren't worried about police."


Likely because the boss was monitoring the police scanner, and knew that the police were busy responding to Jacola's call...which was conveniently placed AFTER the thugs were well away from that neighborhood, ready to do their next task on Sunnyfield.

Trudy said...

Anon @5:59 said
Yesterday, I was talking on my phone to a friend as I drove home from work and sat in the car for about half an hour before going inside as I finished the conversation with her. I have found no dead body in my home.


Yeah? Well that's the difference between you and Davey. WTH is your point?


The only way you can believe that Amanda's murder was a crime of opportunity is IF you believe that the thugs RANDOMLY chose Alison B's house, while she happened to be at work, in the first place. I do not.

Anonymous said...

What's the difference between me and Davey? It has been stated ad nauseam here how unusual it was for someone to remain in their vehicle carrying on an extended conversation. It's not the least bit unusual. It appears that you biased commenters think that's "evidence."

You have no evidence. You have very biased opinions for which you try to fit the analysis and visa versa.

In other words, you have nothing. Too bad you can't extend all this energy into making sure the murderers (who have been arrested) get fully what they deserve.

Anonymous said...

Anon @8:07 pm, you may be right, but one thing we do know is there are too many coincidences that avail DB surrounding the murder of AB. And like the professionals say, no one is that lucky, no one.

Trudy said...

Um, obviously the difference between you and Davey is a dead body in your home. Listen 8:07, if you had been paying attention, you would know that what is suspicious about crazy Davey sitting in the driveway, on the phone, for 50 minutes is that it appears he was waiting for the ONLY other person to have been "robbed" in the street, to come home and call 911 before calling 911 himself.






Foolsfeedonfolly said...

RE: Anonymous February 6, 2017 @5:59 A.M.

You said...
(SNIPPED)

Amanda's dog was supposed to bark and raise a ruckus at the thugs, and yet, the dog didn't bark at police entering the home, but greeted them in a friendly manner. Why didn't the dog bark at police?
__________________________________
You forgot one very important point, Davey (Mel's pack leader) was there when the police came. The police were expected by Davey (read: Dogs sense emotion, smell whatever chemicals were producing via our emotions)...according to Davey's narrative, the thugs would not have been. The question to ask is what was Mel's normal baseline when strangers came to the house? Followed by asking Davey, where was Mel during the home invasion? For all anyone knows, Davey could have taken Mel with him and left her in the car at the gym. I do agree with previous posters, based on Amanda's repeated references, Mel was devoted to Amanda. I would expect to see trial crime scene referencing Mel's prints, as well as where she was when Davey walked into the scene. I would expect Mel to have lain beside Amanda or at her feet/ licked Amanda's face or nuzzled her hand. Frankly, I wouldn't have been surprised by anxious barking/jumping on Davey (likely blood transference to his clothing) or by Mel howling. Given Mel's attachment to Amanda, I was surprised at the total absence of Mel in Davey's narrative-coming up the driveway, walking in the home, finding Amanda, and checking Weston.

Trudy said...

Good points FFOF, it a great question but when did CD say he checked on Weston? After he got off the phone with 911 he called his dad. Mel and Weston are both curiously missing from his account of events that morning.
In one account, he is kneeling by Amanda's body and looks up to see the "still" closed door of Weston's room. Oh and he hears Weston's soft coos from upstairs, behind the "still" closed door over the ragged breathing of his dying wife, but that's about it, and that's pretty far from checking on the poor kid.

Anonymous said...

Trudy @ 10:03

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

If DB was only gone from his house for an hour and a half, he would have returned by 7:41 AM -- 40 minutes earlier than reported in the APC.

DB is deceptive about sitting in the driveway. He was probably in the house taking care of Weston, Mel, and staging, and waiting for "STILL" breathing Amanda to stop breathing before calling 911 as soon as he could.

Kenneth Wagner and DB both said it was "normal" for them to speak on Tuesday mornings.

It was not normal.

KW sat next to DB at Amanda's funeral. DB didn't sit next to his parents, his brother, or Amber. He sat next to KW.

Derek describes KW and DB: "I’m having trouble even figuring out how to introduce this guy. Um. To have you understand th-, th-, the scope of their relationship. Um, this is Davey’s best friend, um, been best friends since college, but I hate even using that word, because it; it doesn’t do justice to the relationship that, that they have. This is a guy, who, um, man, he goes to war for Davey, and he goes to war with Davey. That’s the kind of friend that, that he is"

KW is the kind of friend that will give DB an alibi.

He will go to war with DB.

Will he lie on the stand for DB?

Will he risk prison for DB?

Trudy said...

It's a great question - where was Mel? They'd had that dog for years. I imagine it had free run of the house. It's not like she was a puppy that needs to be shut in the laundry overnight. I suppose it's possible they put her in a crate or something at night, but why didn't davey let her out in the morning? He was up and about for over an hour and a half. Most dog owners attend to their dogs needs first thing in the morning, don't they? If Mel could have gotten to Amanda she would have, if she had have gotten to Amanda, Mel would be covered in blood. ergo Mel was somehow stopped from getting to Amanda. All just speculation of course, maybe Mel was covered in blood and neither LE or Davey mentioned it.

Trudy said...

Hi Bobcat, I like that quote. It shows how batshit crazy Davey really is. "Strategically mapped out carefully plotted ploy" - leakage much from Davey?

CD left at 6:11am and returned to his driveway at 7:30 (close enough to a hour and a half - I guess that's what he means) if we count the50minutes in the drive way, that takes us to 8:20am - so really about 2 hours and 10 minutes or so that he was out the house. Still deceptive though.

KW is interesting. I have no doubt that CD used KW as part of the carefully plotted alibi. He says that they spoke every Tuesday between 7:00 and 8:00. I suppose that is verifiable by looking at phone records. I doubt he'd lie about it. What is weird is that they spoke for 20 minutes longer than usual that morning and finished the call pretty much as soon as Alison B got home. I think CD expected her home closer to 8:00 and was forced to keep KW on the phone for an extra 20 minutes, until she did, as per the plan. I would love to know if Alison B was 20 minutes later getting home than usual.

flightfulbird said...

Kenneth Wagner said "what you need to know about this story" when stating that he and Davey would speak every Tuesday morning -indicating that there is more to the story but this is where he wants us to focus, otherwise move along, nothing to see here. . .

. . . and to my recollection this was the first time Kenneth had ever tweeted about these conversations, further establishing the carefully plotted alibi (to go along with the "I was at the gym" alibi.

I can just see the wheels turning - if one alibi is good, and I have TWO alibis, then they will have to clear me, right? I'll be sure to check in and be seen on camera at the gym (and tell everyone in every interview, on Facebook, probably the 911 call too - that I was at the gym) - and then I'll jump on the phone with Kenneth Wagner on the way home from the gym, stay on the phone with him in the driveway and get him to tweet about the phone call during this exact timeframe as well.

Yeah, Davey had to wait for Alison B to get home and discover she had been burglarized - only then could he walk in to discover Amanda and call 911 himself.

Anonymous said...

Even KW knows HE needs an alibi that places him far away from DB on 11/10/2015.

He made sure to point out that he drove to Indy from Dover, Delaware after he got the call; just so we all know he was nowhere near Indy when Amanda was murdered.

Bingo said...

J. Warner Wallace
I saw this info on the Data Lounge thread.

Guess who is speaking with Crazy Davey at Momentum 2017 Youth Conference this summer? A cold case detective! I wonder if he knows anything about the case and all the deception?
J. Warner Wallace is a cold-case homicide detective, popular national speaker and author. He continues to consult on cold-case investigations while serving as an adjunct professor of apologetics at Biola University and as a faculty member at Summit Ministries. J. Warner was a conscientious and vocal atheist until the age of thirty-five, when he took a serious and expansive look at the evidence for the Christian Worldview and determined that Christianity was demonstrably true. After becoming a Christ follower in 1996, Jim continued to take an evidential approach to truth as he examined the Christian worldview. He eventually earned a Master’s Degree in Theological Studies from Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary.

Trudy said...


Don't forget to listen to Peter Hyatt discuss the murder of Amanda Blackburn @6:00am -7:30am Feb 23 on "Probably-the -only -thing -he is guilty -of-Is narcissism- Watch".

Anonymous said...

Matthew 7:15 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

Hey Jude said...

Trudy -hi, I'm still catching up on this thread sporadically, and also listening to Davey's sermons at intervals.

Thanks for your response re Jennifer Pan and Dylan Roof. It's interesting you should mention Col - 'Call me Russ' - Russell Williams. I did listen to that interview also around the same time, and was very impressed by the interviewer and how easily he got him to confess. Well, it looked easy, but he was well prepared.

Hoping for Davey to have such an interview at some point, presented with lots of indisputable evidence - wishful thinking, perhaps. The trial might change things. More wishful thinking because if the evidence was there, surely he would not be a free man by now - unless there is some cunning plan to spin things out till after the trial. Like what if they are found not guilty and not to have been in the house? Soon we will know the extent of their involvement from the forensic evidence.

On the police guy at the press conference saying 'how dare you take something from a dead person' - I took that to mean they had stumbled upon a dead person rather than murdered one they had found alive - but who knows?





flightfulbird said...

On the police guy at the press conference saying 'how dare you take something from a dead person' - I took that to mean they had stumbled upon a dead person rather than murdered one they had found alive - but who knows?


It does indeed sound like they stumbled upon a dead person. Amanda could have been "in the condition she was in" already when they entered the house through the unlocked front door.

I do not believe the guys in custody killed Amanda. I am not sure who did but I do not believe it was "these guys", unless it was as a planned hit - it definitely wasn't an accident or in the process of trying to get away.

This has been made from the start to appear as a burglary gone wrong - yet the grieving husband continues to try to sell it that he thought it was a miscarriage. When questioned about who might've done this and why, he says Amanda didn't have an enemy in the world. Why not just continue with the story that unfortunately Amanda was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was shot in the process of a burglary going on - is it because Davey can't say it?

I (continue to) believe this was an execution - for so many reasons but not the least of which is that a gunshot to the head from behind is so personal.

And it makes no sense whatsoever that, with the abundance of time they clearly had on that morning, these "random thug burglars" would choose not to take the rest of the contents of Amanda's wallet (credit cards) along with whatever else was of value in the house. Maybe the TV was mounted too securely to the wall to grab and run, but at least snag the credit cards that were strewn about.

Because "these guys" left the credit cards behind, I believe they were scattered - staged along with much of the rest of the scene. Seriously, what common burglar would not take something so portable and easy to hide ?

The police also said "you're not as good as you think you are" or "you're not as smart as you think you are" - I can't remember which, but either statement version would not seem to be talking to the thugs - but someone else - who orchestrated everything so carefully.

Yes, I wonder (and I am hoping) that in the process of the trial for the thugs, information and evidence will come out that will point in a different direction. I still think the 911 call is going to be a major factor - what Davey said and didn't say, chose to include and not include, could or will be huge. To anyone who feels differently, agree to disagree at this point?

I wonder if the trials are going to be streaming online. . . does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

This makes no sense.

Why would information come out at the trial? Investigators have had months to thoroughly investigate.....unless you're talking TV drama trial where, suddenly, the guilty party is cornered through questioning and blurts out his guilt.

Please.

"You're not as smart as you think you are." If they aimed that at Davey, then they were wrong. They still are unable to arrest and charge him, so he must be as smart as he thinks he is.

Anonymous said...

Is Davey "good" enough to outsmart LE?

Please.

Is Davey a good enough liar to deceive LE?

No.

He can always take some Zyrtec to help him sleep at night.

Anonymous said...

Why would information come out at trial?

George Anthony probably wondered the same thing. Somebody is unfailiar with defence attorney tactics.

"You're not as GOOD as you think you are" is the correct quote.

flightfulbird said...

So why would the thugs think they were "good"? Why would police say that to them?

But I can see where Davey would think he was good. He was so careful to mention a thousand times that he was AT THE GYM, had grabbed his gym clothes and headed out for a workout (why else would you grab your gym clothes), had hit up the gym pretty early - he even edited the Facebook announcement of Amanda's plight later that morning to indicate that Resonate Church's pastor had come home FROM THE GYM to find his wife Amanda on the floor (or whatever he said).

Totally unnecessary to write the later Facebook post - for the announcement had already been made to the church about what had happened to Amanda - but he HAD to update it and include "the gym" on Facebook. I can't imagine his NOT saying it in the 911 call that he made as soon as he could.

Oh, but I was talking about why Davey would think he was "good". So let's continue. He had an alibi for the gym, he jumped on the phone with Kenneth Wagner when he left the gym and remained on the phone with him on the driveway (hence the reason he didn't go inside the house as soon as he arrived home to discover Amanda on the floor) - and oh so coincidentally Kenneth Wagner tweeted about it - the only time he had ever mentioned these conversations in a tweet just happened to be on the morning Amanda was brutally murdered while Davey was doing life with his true friend Kenneth Wagner on the phone ?

Neither alibi rules out the possibility that Amanda was shot before Davey ever left the house that morning. There are way too many coincidences of that morning. And information that could come out at trial could be virtually ANYTHING that a defense attorney or public defender would use to create reasonable doubt for his/her clients. If they can point a finger at anyone else who might have done it or might have orchestrated it, they will.

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flightfulbird said...

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All they have to do is get one member of a jury to say "maybe Larry Taylor wasn't the guy who actually pulled the trigger on Amanda" and boom - Larry Taylor might be guilty of entering the house but not of murder - and that would be a solid victory for the defense - and then that leads to - if it was not Larry Taylor (or one of the other two) who pulled the trigger - then who did? Maybe a husband with an unwanted pregnant wife (both the pregnancy and the wife were clearly unwanted and would be a burden) - a wife who was monitoring his internet sites for porn - who dented his grill - who called him out for lying in the Love Song Q & A - who he presented holy and blameless to the Father ?

Seriously - if the defense talks about a guy waving a gun around on stage and says you should shoot your worries away when you get that phone call (about a pregnancy?) - when you have someone saying that a video helped prepare your heart leading up to your wife's death - there are so many of Davey's statements that conflict - Kenneth Wagner and Perry Noble were both distancing themselves from Davey after this happened - why?

I understand Davey is not going to be on trial. But he will be on the stand, yes? And I believe it is a quite reasonable idea to think or even to expect that fingers and evidence, whatever they can find, will be pointed elsewhere other than the thugs and that this evidence will include Davey's conflicting statements, words and actions of that morning and ever since.

As to why he is still walking around free, the prosecution has to have an airtight case to arrest and try to convict him. Suspicions or feelings alone are not enough, obviously. Deorr Kunz and Jessica are still walking around free too even though detectives are positive they were involved and know what happened in baby Deorr's disappearance. They just can't prove anything yet. Toni Henthorn was pushed off of a cliff and it took something like four years for her husband to be charged in her murder. To those clinging to the fact that Davey hasn't been arrested yet - these two cases alone prove that his not being arrested yet is not proof of his innocence and that he cannot rest easy thinking he's off the hook.

It's not over.

Anonymous said...

Regarding DB being "cleared" 100/150% on 11/12/2015:

News Report 1:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/murder-pastor-wife-related-next-door-break-in-article-1.2433705

"Police officers wanted to tell me last night, and they wanted to emphasize this. The officer I even spoke with said: 'We are 100, we are 150% ruling out Davey Blackburn as a suspect in this case.'"

News Report 2:
http://www.wthr.com/article/husband-100-cleared-in-murder-of-pregnant-indianapolis-mother

"After talking to Amanda’s husband, detectives told Eyewitness News that Pastor Blackburn is 100% cleared of any suspicion in this case."

These reports are not direct quotes, and they are not attributed to specific police officers or detectives.

Can ANYONE find a named source?

Anonymous said...

Is LE good enough to outsmart DB?

Yes.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I facetiously quoted frightfulbird with the "you're not as smart as you think you are" statement. Point remains the same, regardless how commenters don't want it to be the truth: if the statement had been aimed at DB, then, apparently, yes, he's as good as he thought he was, at least, to this point. No arrest. No charges.

As far as evidence being miraculously produced at trial, do you think it's responsible of LE to allow evidence that could convict a killer to lie around, allowing a killer to remain loose among society to kill again? Don't you think if they had conclusive evidence against DB, he would be arrested and charged by this time?

flightfulbird said...

They have no choice but to allow him to remain loose among society until they have an airtight case and all the evidence to back it up, enough for the protection to get a conviction.

And, because statistics say that the most likely culprit is boyfriend or husband in the murder of a pregnant girlfriend or wife - is it possible that LE thinks Davey would not be a danger to anyone except Amanda - and since she's out of the picture now, he is unlikely to kill again so the risk is minimal to allow him to remain loose?

If he was involved in any way in Amanda's execution, It's still not like he's a depraved maniac serial killer randomly choosing his victims. This was one victim, close to him, who angered him and whom he wanted out of his life - it was personal.

And everyone knows it's impossible for IMPD or FBI to have gone through Davey's phone records, internet searches, contacts, financial statements, Facebook friends, talked to everyone who might possibly know of a connection of how he could have set this up or been involved in any possible way - in the amount of time they had before they cleared him 100%, no, 150% ! The videos linked above are from November 12th and 13th - only two/three days after. There is no. possible. way. for them to say that quickly that Davey couldn't have set this up, whether he pulled the trigger or not.

Being seen on camera at the gym during the exact time that Natasha Jones Tank thought she heard two gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream does not clear him of any involvement.

Need to persuade much on the part of whoever made that quote of being cleared 150% ? It was like they were saying roam free Davey boy, you're not in our sights, you're all good - while the whole time they are gathering evidence and building a case. It has to be solid.

We don't know what is or was involved in the investigation, what evidence was found, what the 911 call said. There might not be enough evidence to support a conviction.

And if there isn't going to be enough evidence - either because Davey absolutely had no knowledge or nothing whatsoever to do with this crime -

- OR if he was somehow or directly involved - but if he is sure his statements don't implicate him, that he covered his tracks 100% (150%?), that his alibis will hold up, that nobody will roll on him in exchange for a lesser sentence, or that the thugs could be found innocent of actually pulling the trigger and then the prosecutors have to renew their search for who actually DID pull the trigger - then he and his followers have nothing to fear and no reason to think he would ever be implicated.

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flightfulbird said...

-- continued from last post --

The posts pointing out how Davey is still roaming free almost seem hopeful - like they are trying to convince the themselves (or Davey himself) that they don't have anything on him or otherwise he'd be captured already. Which might very well be true - but it could also be because they are buttoning things up.

I don't think it's that simple, that just because he's still free it means he's totally off the hook for this. And I would still very much like to know why his story kept changing throughout 2016 about his impressions of what he found when he walked in to find Amanda. Just the fact that he was continually saying and trying to sell the story that his first thought was that "something had gone horrifically wrong with, uh, the pregnancy" - with credit cards strewn about, furniture turned over and clear evidence of a home invasion - with Amanda's gunshot wounds - whether or not he knew they were from gunshots, the location in the upper back, left arm, and back of head point to anything BUT a miscarriage.

It was obvious that an intruder had been in Davey's home. It's all smoke and mirrors when he says what he "honestly thought" because there's no way he could've have mistaken the scene that morning as the result of a fall or a miscarriage. IF Davey didn't indicate in the 911 call that an intruder been in his home - and if he had, IMPD would have arrived without having to be summoned by IFD Engine 12 - then that alone would raise a huge red flag to investigators - or it should. And it still could, if it didn't then.

Definitely nothing to fear for Davey or those who believe he wasn't involved - unless he was.

Anonymous said...

They have no choice but to allow him to remain loose among society until they have an airtight case and all the evidence to back it up, enough for the protection to get a conviction.




There you go. You just confirmed my point. After all these many months of investigation, LE still can't evidentially connect DB to the crime.......although they arrested the trigger person and other perps rather quickly.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Still going 'round and 'round the mulberry bush I see. This thread is the most epic rehash in human history. Most people would get bored repeating the same stuff over and over -- but not you guys!

Do you stay here voluntarily, or are you trapped here for eternity by some supernatural force? Is an exorcism in order?



I can't wait for the trial. I doubt any of you will admit how embarrassingly, ridiculously wrong you were about the thugs not shooting Amanda, but at least those of us who have our wits about us will be able to have a good laugh at your expense.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's amazing. Same old, same old. No new "evidence." No new nothing. In fact, same flawed theories which depend upon stretching of facts to fit those flawed home grown theories.

The vast majority of the public appears not to connect DB to the murder, and some are shocked when they read the extreme statements from the tenacious ones. I've often wondered how (Christian?) people can so viciously go after someone who has never been accused or connected to a crime, accusing them of many vile deeds and motives. Unlike a few other cases, Davey has never been a suspect. No evidence has been connected to him, LE has never gone after him, and yet, he is very viciously maligned as a murderer here.

DB may not be a likeable person. He may be a complete spiritual fraud. He may be many disgusting things, but to accuse him of murder is another thing altogether.

flightfulbird said...

And I would still very much like to know why his story kept changing throughout 2016 about his impressions of what he found when he walked in to find Amanda. Just the fact that he was continually saying and trying to sell the story that his first thought was that "something had gone horrifically wrong with, uh, the pregnancy" - with credit cards strewn about, furniture turned over and clear evidence of a home invasion - with Amanda's gunshot wounds - whether or not he knew they were from gunshots, the location in the upper back, left arm, and back of head point to anything BUT a miscarriage.

It was obvious that an intruder had been in Davey's home. It's all smoke and mirrors when he says what he "honestly thought" because there's no way he could've have mistaken the scene that morning as the result of a fall or a miscarriage.



I would stop rehashing ^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^ if I could get a straight answer or explanation of why Davey repeated this "impression" of what he thought, multiple times in many different appearances ?

Until it's explainedI otherwise, I believe it is to cover and give explanation to why he DIDN"T report an intruder or home invasion to 911. It makes sense that if he "honestly thought" it was a miscarriage, there would be no need to indicate the furniture turned over and credit cards scattered around - home invasion would involve IMPD.

Any husband who walked in and found his wife in THAT scene would instantly know it was a crime scene.

So why would he say, much less keep repeating, that he thought it was something gone wrong with the pregnancy ?

Could it be because the question is going to come up of why he didn't include everything he saw in his description to 911?

Anonymous said...

Reporter Andrea Morehead: "Police now say they have cleared Amanda Blackburn's husband Davey, on any involvement in her murder"

Reporter Steve Jefferson: "Police said Davey Blackburn has been "100% cleared" in the investigation." "Right now detectives are working very closely with Pastor Davey Blackburn. He's the one who could tell them, possibly, how the burglars got in, and possibly more details about his wife's murder." "After talking to Amanda’s husband, detectives told Eyewitness News that Pastor Blackburn is 100% cleared of any suspicion in this case."

Reporter Anne Marie Tiernon: "Eyewitness News has confirmed the husband of the pregnant mother killed in a home invasion has been cleared in her death."

Reporter Jeff Wagner: "Police officers wanted to tell me last night, and they wanted to emphasize this. The officer I even spoke with said: 'We are 100, we are 150% ruling out Davey Blackburn as a suspect in this case.'"

Follow up by Jeff Wagner 2/9/2017: "Thanks for asking but I don't reveal sources. All I will say is it was an officer with IMPD who I had developed trust with over time."
-Jeff

There is no direct quote from LE that DB is cleared in Amanda's death. Not one.
The reports are either vague or full of qualifiers and sensitivity indicators.

Bingo said...

"So why would he say, much less keep repeating, that he thought it was something gone wrong with the pregnancy ?

Could it be because the question is going to come up of why he didn't include everything he saw in his description to 911?"

That is exactly why Flightful. Can't wait to hear Peter discuss the case and his thoughts on why justice was not served. It should be very enlightening.

The sermon last week was a doozy. Davey talks about sex way too much and throws in the sacrificial Amanda laying the way for Resonate to be great. Her dying and all the hard work by the volunteers, that is! It is a crazy sermon. What's new?

TheTruthHurts said...

Oh, flightlessturd, you'll be rehashing this until the day you die, alone, hunched over your keyboard, softly moaning, "Davey did it. Free the thugs. Meg likes it in the butt." Depressing when you think about it, huh?

Hey Jude said...

Well said, flighful - I also suspect Amanda was dying before Davey left for the gym.

I hope they have a good defence and are able to get a fair trial. Guilty or not, circumstantial evidence will put them there, possibly inside the house; if they found Amanda dying, it could maybe be easy to wrongly convict them unless a case can be made for reasonable doubt. I agree, the 911 call will reveal a lot - wonder also if the forensic people have been able to establish how long Amanda might have lay there bleeding - maybe from how fresh the blood was on the carpets.

Anon is so desperate, yet the investigators do not need to hurry - Davey is not going anywhere, if they have their sights on him, he's like a mouse under a cat's watchful eye. Some cases take years to resolve. If he killed Amanda, or orchestrated her murder, he will not get away with it.

Anonymous said...

No direct quotes from LE that they cleared Davey....only indirect quotes. But, there certainly are NO quotes, direct or indirect, that DB is or was a suspect.

Anonymous said...

But, there certainly are NO quotes, direct or indirect, that DB is or was a suspect.

Of course there aren't. He would have lawyered up and shut up.

Letting him incessantly talk and lie has been very revealing.

LE knows what they are doing.

Anonymous said...

Statistically, he was the number one suspect until he was "cleared".

Anonymous said...

He was? Who told you that? When was he cleared?

Anonymous said...

Didn't take long for him to be cleared despite statistics.

flightfulbird said...

The lies / changing stories about what he saw and thought when he walked in - all by themselves - could be his undoing. The web he has woven with his words and explanations is going to be impossible to escape now if anyone questions him - because he has repeated it so many times to so many different audiences and in print / in his blog posts.

I think it was intentional and very smart for investigators to allow him to keep writing blog posts, speaking in various venues, traveling, spending money, tweeting "nothing is wasted", taking poignant pictures of Weston laying flowers on gravestones and living his life - thinking he got away with it (maybe daring to hope he got away with it) but all the while wondering whether or not the hammer is going to fall and if so, when. There are a lot of variables that could unravel and people who could talk.

And if he's truly innocent of any involvement then he has no reason to fear any of this and no reason to look over his shoulder.

Anonymous said...

Well, what you perceive as lies has been known by LE, too, I'm sure. After all, if you are aware of it, so is LE. What's the holdup
there in his "undoing"?

flightfulbird said...

That is the million dollar question - what's taking investigators so long - if they have something on him? But just because they've not revealed anything yet doesn't mean they don't have anything on him.

I wonder if they do.

I bet Davey wonders too.

I bet they do.

flightfulbird said...

I bet they do (have something on him).

What I "perceive" as lies has nothing to do with perception and everything to do with Davey's rendition of events throughout his appearances in 2016 not matching what he told Detective Perkins on November 10, 2015 at Methodist Hospital. No perception required.

You can't make the jump from Davey's statement that a Swisher Sweet package shouldn't be in his residence (from Affidavit for Probable Cause) to saying in multiple appearances that he had no idea that anyone had been in his home .

I cannot see an explanation for that.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

To Those Wishing To Avoid Reading About the Details Ad Nauseum- Feel free to skip this post.

Reading posts and subsequent responses here, my question is...Why?

Davey begins his recounting with "walking in to find her" after "going to workout". He asserts that he "thought something had gone, uh, wrong with the pregnancy" and he "found her face down in a pool of blood". He's literally shared his story hundreds of times, in numerous interviews and venues around the U.S. and has left out the overturned furniture, broken lamp, scattered credit cards, roll of duct tape, and Swisher Sweets on the counter every time except one (the exception being, his pre-book release blog post). Why? He wants us to know and paints us a visual picture of a graphically violent crime with the "face down in a pool of blood". So why has he been skimming on the furniture/lamp/credit cards/duct tape/Swisher Sweets? It's not like those details were confidential, being clearly stated in the Affadavit of Probable Cause. The details are what make this "story" even more effectual. Davey "allows" for Amanda to be pregnant, a Braveheart fighter and warrior, and a martyr for the Church...but they don't allow for a "home invasion"/robbery". Possibly because it was neither a home invasion, nor a robbery in the traditional sense? The conundrum is in the details. The "there's been some kind of an accident and Amanda hit her head" story relayed to Perry Noble and via NewSpring doesn't match the "I thought something had, uh, gone wrong with the pregnancy", which doesn't equate to the credit cards strewn about, Swisher Sweets on the counter, change on the landing, etc.

The only way Davey's accounting can make sense, is if Amanda regularly ran around her home at 6 in the morning in just a shirt (nothing from the waist down), set her Swisher sweets on the kitchen coffee bar counter, wore/carried her earbuds (no device), while carrying her wallet and a roll of duct tape, and went about knocking over furniture, breaking lamps, and throwing change around on the landing. That's the only way this event would not have been indicative of a home invasion/robbery crime scene.

In the marketing scheme of things, these important (albeit conspicuously missing) details would undoubtedly garner tremendous sympathy and empathy (read: $$$) and attention. Given Davey's marketing bent to Church-world (read: networking circuit) and the world at large, those details would serve him well. Davey misses no opportunity to market anything- his "manhood", their sex life, Amanda's mistakes, Weston's childish "misbehavior", or anyone else's mistakes/weaknesses/embarrassing moments/confidences. So why wouldn't Davey include those heart-wrenching, gut-punching details? Because he had a need to omit them, for 13 months. So, why now, 13 months later, in the pre-book release blog post? Now he needs them to be part of his narrative...the part that portrays him as tender, loving, attentive, stricken husband, just walking in from going to work out.

flightfulbird said...

^^^ Awesome post Fools, thank you for saying so much better and so much more clearly what I've been trying to say for months !

flightfulbird said...

Where might I find the pre book release blog post? - the last post I see on the Davey Blackburn blog is "How do you deal with the way Amanda died part $" (sorry, part 4)



Bobcat said...

"The only way Davey's accounting can make sense, is if Amanda regularly ran around her home at 6 in the morning in just a shirt (nothing from the waist down), set her Swisher sweets on the kitchen coffee bar counter, wore/carried her earbuds (no device), while carrying her wallet and a roll of duct tape, and went about knocking over furniture, breaking lamps, and throwing change around on the landing. That's the only way this event would not have been indicative of a home invasion/robbery crime scene."

Davey and LE and us "three or four" (because numbers are really important) here know that; but the tithing fanboys, unsuspecting beard wives, and faghags who will never read the APC and just want to be entertained while dazing at the tanned sexy pastor don't have a clue.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


RE- flightfulbird February 9, 2017 @ 4:09PM

http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/how-do-you-deal-with-the-way-amanda-died-part-3

2nd paragraph, 4th sentence in:

"Almost as if I were having an out of body experience, my mind began imagining what everything looked like the morning I found her, me crouched by her side, a lamp turned over near her feet and shattered over the ground, the ladder she had propped against the wall for decoration now laying beside her body. I remembered how that morning Weston’s door was still shut. I remembered sitting downstairs on the floor of our living room pleading with Amanda to stay with me as she struggled for every breath. I remembered I could hear Weston's soft coos from his room upstairs. I remembered looking up at the balcony just above me."

flightfulbird said...

Thank you Foolsfeedonfolly ! I was wondering if there was a more recent one now that the book is at the publisher.

So no new blog posts since October 24, 2016 - hmm, did Michael Head or someone else advise Davey to stop blogging because he was leaking information like crazy?

How interesting would it be if the book was delayed because Davey was going back over the manuscript making sure he didn't give any information that could be analyzed and used against him ?

Interesting that the "Amanda's story" posts have dried up too - whether they were ghostwritten or written by actual people whose lives were touched by Amanda's story. But now it's Davey's story - and/or Resonate's story.


#amandawho ?
(compliments to someone on DataLounge board for this)

Anonymous said...

So.....what do you think all these perceived different versions mean? Do you suppose all these thoughts and scenarios went through Davey's mind? Maybe they are not "conflicting." Does LE think they conflict? Maybe he was in shock and terribly confused. I'm almost positive, if commenters here see the conflict, LE certainly would.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Noting peculiarities here,please indulge me. In two of the three home invasion/robberies perpetrated by Watson, Gordon, and Taylor in the less than 5 hour span on November 11, 2015, only two residences had multiple rooms ransacked (bedrooms, kitchen, living rooms), with items stolen specifically from bedrooms (bed sheets, I-phone, Ladies pink sweater). The Blackburn home was the exception.

In two of the three incidences, TV's and phones were taken. The Blackburns were the exception. In the other Sunnyfield Court robbery, jewelry was taken, but Amanda's jewelry was not (even though Taylor had at least a 15-20 minute window between the initial ATM transaction and exiting the house).

When CSS Colleen Clark processed the Blackburn home, she took "multiple blood and DNA swabs". Yet in processing the Chrysler Sebring,"swabs were taken from the vehicle for potential DNA". The CODIS hit, by virtue of saliva, was on the pink sweater...not blood, not blood from the passenger seat. Watson was caught by the saliva hit. Shouldn't Taylor have been caught by blood evidence in the Sebring, since Taylor was in the front passenger seat. After presumably knocking out Amanda's tooth (mouth injuries bleed profusely), shooting her in the forearm, shooting her in the arm, attempting to pull her shirt over her head, and shooting her execution style point blank in the back of the head...shouldn't there have been blood evidence on Taylor in the front passenger seat? how did Taylor get into the passenger side of the car, close the door, and later exit the car without leaving his own identifiable DNA on the car door handle/panel?

I'm not understanding here.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 9, 2017 @ 5:54 PM

You said...
(SNIPPED)
"So.....what do you think all these perceived different versions mean? Do you suppose all these thoughts and scenarios went through Davey's mind?"
-------------------------------------
That's just it, there shouldn't have been thoughts and scenarios after the fact. His recollection should have been vivid, highly detailed, sure (fight or flight hormones). The basic details shouldn't change. Any additional post-event recollections should support those facts in a significant way...like additional adjectives further describing already established details.

For example, when I was five-years old, some older boys decided to sneak a smoke (as we were told) at our private school. They ended up setting part of the school on fire. The students were all quickly herded to the parking lot, as the Fire Department came and put out the fire. I remember standing in line, afraid of the fire, in the cold early morning. I remember the shadow of the building and how quiet we all were as we waited. Thirty years later, I went into a newly opened tobacco store in my neighborhood, on an errand for my neighbor. As soon as I entered, I "knew" that particular smell. I was mentally transported back to that morning out on the blacktop. I had forgotten the smell aspect. The boys were trying to smoke tobacco (what they didn't tell us).

Davey was there; he has no need to run scenarios through his head.

Anonymous said...

There are 2 scenarios regarding LE. The first is that they look like heroes as they caught gang members who were terrorizing the city and now the city is safe. Dragging Davey in would make their valiant efforts seem not as heroic, as it was really not random gang violence but rather a hired hit by a Midwestern preacher. The second (and hopefully correct) scenario is that Davey is still under their radar and they are quietly gathering evidence as we speak.

Trudy said...

Hi everyone, good posts.

Davey has alibied himself too well. His carefully crafted timeline may also bring him undone.

The regular weekly phone call with KW was Tuesday's 7:00-8:00.am.

Davey thought he'd be ready for the regular weekly call from KW @7:00 (alibi) But he wasn't. He was running late. He didn't leave home until 6:11. It takes approx 20 minutes to drive to LA fitness, taking the time to 6:30.

When KW called (presumably @7:00am) crazy Davey was just "finishing up" his work out. Instead of telling KW he'd call him back when he'd finished his work out ...Davey stayed on the phone with his alibi as he was finishing up his (very short workout), and left the gym, got into his car and drove home, all the while STILL talking on the phone to KW.

Then sat in his driveway, still talking to KW, for another 50 minutes until Alison B came home.

I'm assuming that Davey had always been ready for the all before. Why would you schedule a call for a time you were working out? The fact that he didn't call KW back AFTER he'd finished working out, but kept him on the phone while he finished up his workout, indicates to me that he did not want to swerve from his established pattern, weakening his alibi.

Eg. KW: I always call CD at 7:00am Tuesday
LE: Did you call him at 7:00 am on that morning
KW: yes but he was still working out and had to call me back.

the fact that he wasn't ready for the regular weekly conv at 7:00 means there was a glitch in Davey's timetable that morning. Despite being up at 4:30am for his "long day", he'd driven 40 minutes round trip to work out for barely 30 minutes and talked on the phone to KW for 80 minutes. Weird time management.

Maybe KW tweeted about the call that morning is because he was excited that Davey gave him an extra 20 minutes of his time. (Which he was forced to do as he waited in his driveway for Alison B). For a"long day" Davey sure dicked about that morning, wasting time.

The best laid plans of mice and men...hey Davey?

I still think he orchestrated the contract killing of Amanda, rather than shot her, himself, but if the thugs defence is that Amanda was already injured and dying when they arrived on the scene, I may change my mind. (Certainly it would make more sense of the "how dare you take something from a dead person?"comment.)

flightfulbird said...

It's almost unthinkable that it could be a hired hit by a Midwestern preacher - but this preacher's actions and words leading up to his wife's death - and even more his actions and words since then - indicate it could totally be possible.

I wonder who, if anyone, Davey knows in high places who might be persuaded to look the other way? And if there was such a person, multiple people would have to go along with it and I don't see ALL of IMPD and the FBI being that corrupt.

I would hope that none of them are corrupt in the least and that they have connected the dots and have him in their sights.

IMPD and FBI also don't want to be the ones to drop the ball and have everyone talking behind their backs (on message boards? !) that they didn't nail this guy if he was indeed involved in any way.

flightfulbird said...

Not that they would really care about what random posters on message boards say - but they are sworn to protect and serve and I think (hope, believe) they would take that seriously.

Like Gary Busey as Angelo Pappas in the movie Point Break, these investigators are experienced and would want to snag "the bad guy". Tying the thugs aka "these guys" to Amanda's murder gave them a chance to get them off of the streets while still being able to quietly investigate Davey.

Trudy said...

Thanks for posting the balcony scene again. One if the things that jumps out at me is that it is out of sequence and it's been bugging me for ages.

He is standing on the balcony, looking down and describing the scene. That is important. He looks down and he "sees" himself next to Amanda, the overturned pot plant and ladder. All good but the next thing he describes is Weston's "still" closed door, which, as he is telling the story from the balcony would have been BEHIND him. Not below him.

THEN he says he remembers sitting on the floor and looking up. Out of order, right?

And saying he could hear Weston, upstairs, behind a closed door, softly cooing softly over the laboured breathing of his dying wife, is impossible to believe.

flightfulbird said...

Weston was virtually invisible in all of Davey's narratives (as was little Everett "Evie" Grace) UNTIL it fit the story to bring them in.

Talking about Weston softly cooing was not just an attempt to set the scene - it was also to combat our speculation that Weston would have been hungry, upset and screaming and that Davey hadn't bothered to check on him.

It was almost like clockwork for awhile, that when a comment was made here, Davey's Instagram or blog or Facebook would address the comment in some way.

Anonymous said...

You people are funny.

I've asked about each point of your "evidence" why do you suppose LE doesn't know those? Hikariously, never an answer.

LE is not nearly as knowledgeable as you commenters. Right?

Trudy said...

Awww. Anon @ 7:59 thinks she's people. How cute.

flightfulbird said...

I suppose LE does know those and many other things but they are not revealing what they know for their own reasons.

Or, they know all of these things but they don't see anything that would raise their concern about Davey.

Nobody knows right now which one it is - whether LE is holding everything close to the vest and quietly gathering asseevidence and putting together a case - or if they really did clear Davey 150% for real and they have moved on and aren't looking in his direction at all.

Those who are worried about the speculation and "evidence" being mentioned here and elsewhere should not worry - all of this could be written off as the ramblings of crazy people on the web - unless there is a reason to worry. There's no need to stifle unless there is a reason. It would be so easy to just ignore this page, it seems.

And if Davey is willing to publicly forgive the thugs who walked into his house and allegedly assaulted his wife, knocked out her tooth and shot her three times (one to the head) - surely he can forgive us as well. Oh, but that wouldn't be nearly as cool of a story. I am somewhat surprised we've not yet seen a meeting between Davey and them on the front steps of the jail - what a golden photo op that would be.

Trudy said...

' why do you suppose LE doesn't know those? LE is not nearly as knowledgeable as you commenters, right?

Why don't you pop off to a site discussing, vernal kunz, sherry papini, Justin Di Pietro, Mark Redwine, or John Carter and spew your ignorant
questions, Anon @7:59? No arrests means not guilty, right?

Your stupid questions have been answered REPEATEDLY, including once or twice by Peter, himself.



Anonymous said...

Anon @ 5:54
He was not too shocked or confused to call his dad and take mental snapshots, all while waiting for the paramedics...

(4/14/2016) "I called 911 as soon as I could, and the paramedics rushed Amanda to the hospital."

(10/8/2016) "I had no idea while I was standing there with Amanda, while I was calling the paramedics; what had happened."

(10/23/2016) "and so in that moment of shock I’m dialing 911 and, seemed like it took for, forever, an eternity for paramedics to get there."

(11/17/2016) "After dialing 911, I called my dad. I'm, like, 'Dad, you just need to pray. I found Amanda. I think something's wrong with the baby. I don't know what's going on. She's unconscious. She's breathing, I don't know what's happening'," Blackburn said. "And so I just sat with her and was, like, 'Baby, just hang on. We're going to be okay.'"

(5/22/2016) "while I was sitting there with her waiting for the, the paramedics, I-, s-, my, my mind was taking (snaps fingers) snapshots of the things in the room that were out of place. And so I remember being able to recall that later when the investigators came in to ask me about what was going on, you know, what, wh- how I found her."

flightfulbird said...

Again with "I think something's wrong with the baby" to his dad - Davey KNEW that was not true.

It has been said before but because Davey mentions the process of his taking mental snapshots of things in the room that were out of place, that sort of (or absolutely) negates his being able to later say that he had no idea anyone had been in his house.

And when he said this -

And so I remember being able to recall that later when the investigators came in to ask me about what was going on, you know, what, wh- how I found her."

- when he stumbles on "what, wh" - . . . it was like he started to say "what happened" (to her) instead of what he ended up saying (how he found her).

Trudy said...

Haha. He's alway had more sympathy and understanding for the thugs than hes had for those who question him. Remember when crazy Davey was at Fuse or whatever the hell that youth convention thingy was called and he looked around and thought wistfully of the man who allegedly mudered his pregnant wife in her own home and thought "what if Larry Taylor had have had something like this, growing up?"

Ha. While those who question him are shoe lint. Haha thanks for reminding me.

If Davey was smart he would wear the accusations against him like a badge of honour. "They say I killed my wife. Look how they bear false witness and persecute me! Just like Jesus!" It would also be smart to issue a reliable denial of the accusations, instead of ignoring them and instructing others to ignore them. But he can't.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Peter- Would this qualify as a need to portray oneself as being cooperative ("helping" investigators)?

(5/22/2016) "while I was sitting there with her waiting for the, the paramedics, I-, s-, my, my mind was taking (snaps fingers) snapshots of the things in the room that were out of place. And so I remember being able to recall that later when the investigators came in to ask me about what was going on, you know, what, wh- how I found her."

*Note: The use of "And" indicates missing information. The use of "so" evidences the need to explain why Davey did something in anticipation of being asked...although he was not asked.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

So, let me see if I understand this.

According to Davey:
1. "I thought something had, uh, gone wrong with the pregnancy."
2. "I had no idea while I was standing there with Amanda, while I was calling the paramedics; what had happened."
3. "After dialing 911, I called my dad. I'm, like, 'Dad, you just need to pray. I found Amanda. I think something's wrong with the baby. I don't know what's going on..."

So, he thought Amanda face down in pool of blood was something wrong with the pregnancy, but when calling the paramedics he had "no" idea [not a single one]. Minutes later calling his dad he had the pregnancy gone wrong-something wrong with the baby idea again. Inconsistency. Every healthy, mentally capable person has ideas about everything because our 5 senses are constantly feeding us information about our surroundings. If he had come upon a stranger in the street in that condition (bleeding profusely from upper body and head, unclothed from the waist down with shirt pulled up nearly over her bleeding head, and panties lying next to her), would he assume something had gone wrong with her pregnancy? Is that even logical? Believable?

Just an aside, a state of shock paralyzes; adrenaline compels a 911 call...which makes the "I called 911 as soon as I could." doubly sensitive.

Summing up: He wants his audience to believe that he thought it was a pregnancy-issue, he had no idea, he was in a state of shock, but he called 911 immediately, and then immediately after he called his dad to let him know that Davey thought it was pregnancy-related, even though he had taken mental snapshots of all the things that were out of place in their home, but didn't think it was a robbery or home invasion. While Amanda was "still breathing","laboring to breathe", and he was kneeling beside her saying "Baby, just hang on. We're going to be o.k.", Davey seems to have had a lot of time to think, make phone calls, and take mental snapshots to recall later.

For someone who's very livelihood is dependent upon attention to detail, personal charisma, presentation, and staging (his personal appearance, his home, his videotaped messages, his sets, his sermon presentations, how others perceive him, etc.), his narrative seems unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

Fools...this is great:

"Summing up: He wants his audience to believe that he thought it was a pregnancy-issue, he had no idea, he was in a state of shock, but he called 911 immediately, and then immediately after he called his dad to let him know that Davey thought it was pregnancy-related, even though he had taken mental snapshots of all the things that were out of place in their home, but didn't think it was a robbery or home invasion. While Amanda was "still breathing","laboring to breathe", and he was kneeling beside her saying "Baby, just hang on. We're going to be o.k.", Davey seems to have had a lot of time to think, make phone calls, and take mental snapshots to recall later."

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The above is only one bit of time that DB has talked about and changed his version.

The timeline has many new additions and updates, and breaks down different blocks of time and Davey's changing story of each 'block'. You can also see where there are lots of gaps and wiggle room for whatever is being concealed.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

The addition of Pastor Harrison's appeal to address the code of silence in Indy is a glaring comparison to the vulgar publicity of P. Noble in defense of DB's behavior.

flightfulbird said...

We will find you? If he was referencing Davey, why would he say that?

I've wondered this as well.

A theory - maybe reaching - but he might say that for the same reason they said they had "cleared Davey 100%, no 150%" - to make Davey feel safe and think they were looking for someone other than him. Also to make him wonder what evidence he had left behind that they had found.

Anonymous said...

11/12/2015: Reporters reported that police/detectives had "cleared" Davey.

11/13/2015: Wide-ranging LE press conference. "We will find you."

I believe at this point, LE had made the strategic decision to "clear" DB as the shooter, because they had the security images of Taylor and the timeline that fit the robbery/murder narrative. LE likely (like us three or four here) suspects murder-for-hire but knows they need time to build a case. By leaking to the press that DB is "cleared", they can quietly investigate him while they also pursue the hired thugs. "We will find you." is aimed at the guy in the photo/Taylor.

After Taylor etc. were arrested, there was another press conference where they released the APC.

Press Conference (11/23/2015):
Question: [18:31] [unintelligible] test results still pending that could determine whether or not she was sexually assaulted or [unintelligible]
Prosecutor Terry Curry: I, I think like in any case, uh there’s um, the, investigation (smiles) hasn’t ended as of this afternoon, uh, that, uh, investigation will continue including, you know any further forensic analysis that’s, that’s appropriate. And ongoing at this time.

Anonymous said...

According to bobcat, LE is going to quietly investigate DB:

"......knows they need time to build a case. By leaking to the press that DB is "cleared", they can quietly investigate him while they also pursue the hired thugs. "


.....but then they hold a public press conference where they make the cryptic statement below, which, according to Bobcat, is aimed at DB?

Press Conference (11/23/2015):
Question: [18:31] [unintelligible] test results still pending that could determine whether or not she was sexually assaulted or [unintelligible]
Prosecutor Terry Curry: I, I think like in any case, uh there’s um, the, investigation (smiles) hasn’t ended as of this afternoon, uh, that, uh, investigation will continue including, you know any further forensic analysis that’s, that’s appropriate. And ongoing at this time.



Not very subtle of them if they want DB to think he's been cleared.

Anonymous said...

"Detectives and a second crime lab team revisited the Blackburn home on Sunnyfield Court on Indianapolis' northwest side Wednesday night after releasing the house Tuesday back to the family.

A local professional commercial cleaning company had already been called in and had left the home by Wednesday afternoon."

Davey said he had no intention of going back to his house (and only did months later to gather some stuff) yet he had professional cleaners come in the day after Amanda was pronounced dead, despite the fact that a homicide had occurred and there were no suspects. If you truly had "nothing to hide", wouldn't you want the police to gather as much evidence as possible? Why the rush to have the house professionally cleane?

Anony said...

Correction..^^^...he had the cleaners come in the day after she was shot and the same day she was pronounced dead. Even more suspicious.

Anonymous said...

This was published 11/12/15, two days after Amanda was shot. Davey has always said he left the door unlocked so why two days later are the LE questioning how the thugs got in?

"Although Lt. Riddle referred to "killers," he said at this point police don't know how many people they're looking for. They also don't know how the intruders got into the house.

"I know our detectives are speaking with the husband and are following up on basically how he left the house that morning. And if that door was locked or if it wasn't; things like that," said Lt. Riddle.

and...
"This was in a location where normally we don't see that kind of crime," said Rev. Charles Harrison with the Ten Point Coalition.

http://www.wthr.com/article/husband-100-cleared-in-murder-of-pregnant-indianapolis-mother

Bobcat said...

Anona @ 4:20:

"According to bobcat, LE is going to quietly investigate DB:
"......knows they need time to build a case. By leaking to the press that DB is "cleared", they can quietly investigate him while they also pursue the hired thugs. "
.....but then they hold a public press conference where they make the cryptic statement below, which, according to Bobcat, is aimed at DB?"

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It's my opinion, prefaced with "I think". I didn't write who I thought Curry's comments were aimed at. If anything, I would infer that they were aimed at the reporter who asked the question.

Davey "we is me and Jesus" has "nothing to hide", so if what I think (LE is quietly investigating him) is correct, LE will be wasting their time.

NOT ONE LE Peter has talked to disagree that DB didn't know someone would enter his house that morning...

Time will tell.

flightfulbird said...

NOT ONE LE Peter has talked to disagree that DB didn't know someone would enter his house that morning...

Time will tell.


I wonder if Peter's LE contacts are among IMPD and/or FBI - or if any of them would talk with IMPD or FBI and share their thoughts /shed some light on this. I imagine it's professional courtesy to not tell other law enforcement personnel how to do their job. Yet if they are all in it together in a way, it makes sense in this high-profile of a case that the more heads the better sharing impressions and information if the real truth is to be found.

All this being said, addressing the chance that Davey was completely uninvolved - IF he truly has nothing to hide then there's no reason to fear ANY of this information - his words, actions, blog posts, statements in appearances - being brought to light by whoever does it.

If he had absolutely nothing to do with it - either in orchestrating the conundrum or shooting Amanda himself - then deeper investigation will lead to nothing - only dead ends.

flightfulbird said...

For anyone who hasn't already seen it (and anyone who thinks the Blackburn house was chosen "randomly" on that morning) - the DataLounge thread post 315 has a map of where Sunnyfield Court and the Blackburn house is located - the posts above it have a timeline and are curious about the choice of that house compared to other (more easily accessible, more easily hit) locations.

How many houses did they have to bypass (after driving across the city) to end up at the very end of a cul-de-sac in this neighborhood ?

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/17752942--smoking-hot-pastor-s-wife-killed-after-failed-robbery-part-7

Anonymous said...

The thugs would have had to go past 11 houses on Davey's cul-de-sac just to get to his house (after entering a subdivision and passing 8 houses first). So, the thugs randomly drove 20 miles from their neighborhood to a subdivision, pass 19 houses and then drive to houses (Allison and Davey) on the very end of the cul-de-sac to try and get some quick cash? How in God's name can LE think this is random?

Anonymous said...

And "randomly" choosing a house that had a security sign in front, and a dog and an adult inside. Yep, that sounds like an easy mark.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

In every public statement and blog post Davey's made in the last 15 months, he's told us repeatedly where he "is" the morning of Amanda Blackburn's murder. He has never once publicly told anyone where Amanda "is" until she's face down in a pool of blood...not once...15 months and hundreds of paid speaking engagements, sermons, blog posts, and a book.

Are we to believe that no one has asked him? Not Phil? Not one of her friends? Not even Amber? That defies logic and yet, no one close to Amanda has referenced her in the context of that morning. It's as if she didn't exist until she was "found". As much as Davey wants to normalize his morning, Amanda's was anything but normal before and after Davey left for the gym. His silence tells me so.

I know Davey's crass (vulgar jokes, coarse language, and all about shock value), but would you describe the murder of your spouse that way? How about your "best friend"? Ministry partner? The daughter of someone close to you? The sister-in-law of your "best buddy"-college roommate? Your toddler's mom?

Anonymous said...

f he had absolutely nothing to do with it - either in orchestrating the conundrum or shooting Amanda himself - then deeper investigation will lead to nothing - only dead ends.




So............what has investigation led to?

Nothing? Dead ends? Is Davey any closer to being arrested?

flightfulbird said...

would you describe the murder of your spouse that way?

Davey appears to like the shock value of his description- you can see him actually stop talking and look around for a reaction (almost like he's expecting gasps from the audience) when he says "face down in a pool of blood".

If it's not every single time that he looks around for reaction, it's close. I mentioned before that by the time he got to most of these speaking engagements, most people knew the story - he could've just said "as you know, my wife was killed in our home, this is how my son Weston and I have been able to deal with it" or whatever. No need to give the gory details every time.

Even if she said "I found my wife, she had been shot" - or even "shot three times" - it would be better and more kind to her family and friends.

Fools, another great post. I've never really thought about how nonexistent Amanda is from EVERYONE'S rendition of that morning before Davey left for the gym. Amber can describe everything in great detail - even down to the number of candy corns in a candy dish on the counter - surely she would've asked Davey whether Amanda was awake, if she was tending to Weston, where she was when he left her - it's human nature and especially with someone so close - to want to know how they spent their last days or hours. Were they happy, safe, whatever.

My posts look like serious gibberish compared to yours, Trudy's, Bobcat's and many more posters on here. Thank you to all of you for keeping the discussion going. I hope it will make a difference and someday we will know the truth about what happened.

flightfulbird said...

Amber does know, however, that Amanda rose up and fought that morning with everything in her to protect the precious life she had been given just fifteen months earlier (paraphrasing /from memory) !

And I noticed in Bobcat's timeline that Davey had specifically prayed for protection for Amanda and Evie that morning - it has been said before, but why not Weston? Because he knew Weston would be safe.

Bobcat said...

"My posts look like serious gibberish compared to yours, Trudy's, Bobcat's and many more posters on here. Thank you to all of you for keeping the discussion going."

I love your writing style and contributions! Your flowing 'reviews' highlight many (sometimes forgotten) inconsistencies in statements that DB has made.

Bobcat said...

Amber's statements are sometimes peculiar as well!

Speaking of Amber...one of her closest friends describes her like this:

"Amber and I quickly became inseparable-- we were two peas in a pod, bosom buddies, DOUBLE TROUBLE! We made amazing home-videos, wore ridiculous costumes in public, spent summer endless days frying ourselves at the beach, and from time to time (ie: often) wet our pants laughing so hard. :)
I could always count on Amber for a crazy adventure or a good prank. At slumber parties, my poor dad couldn’t keep us quiet--we always stayed up way past our bedtime, “taking bites out of our health.” :) We were running partners (the annual Great Race on zero training and a big bowl of pasta), masters of secret codes (helpful for passing notes in class...), and the "Kent" champions of the world!! I’d never known a friend like Amber. We were completely, 100% silly together, and yet she also challenged me to love people well, to fight against sin, and to be more like Jesus."

http://theseibertstory.blogspot.com/2014/04/11-fab-5-girlfriends.html

Trudy said...

Yep. Not a word about Amanda in any of Davey's accounts of that morning but he HAS told us quite a lot about the morning BEFORE.

He has told us that she was on both knees, bowed, in a position of surrender on the floor beside the bed. It was the memory of this IMAGE that let him know, yes, she would have still said "yes " to moving to INdy if she knew she and her unborn baby would be murdered. Utterly ludicrous.

In another account of Monday morning, he says she SPOKE to him. It wasn't just an image.

She says "I was just praying that God would use us in really big way". (Funny she didn't mention anything like that in her last journal entry)

Less than 24 hours later she'd been shot in the head, and Davey was telling everyone that, basically, God was using her in a really big way.




Trudy said...

If anyone can stomach watching crazy Davey's last "sermon", there are a few things I'd like to discuss.

Bobcat said...

Does he talk about Monday the 9th or Tuesday the 10th, or "why" Amanda was killed?

If so, what are the time stamps?

I don't have time to sit through a full video.

flightfulbird said...

I *might* be able to watch some of it this weekend and contribute Trudy.
Thanks Bobcat !


Amanda just happening to be praying the morning before she was killed "that God would use them in a really big way" rings about as true as "Nothing is Wasted" randomly coming on Pandora radio while they were gathered around her bedside - or the song that Amanda danced down the aisle to their wedding randomly coming on in Davey's car.

EVERYTHING Davey writes and says supports "the story". I still can't believe the photo op with Weston laying roses on the gravestone on Mother's Day. Totally shameless usage of that little guy because you know he didn't really understand what he was doing, what it meant, what has happened.

With respect to Amanda praying that she wanted the agenda for her life to be God's agenda for her life at the leadership conference in the old abandoned hotel basement gym just days before she was killed - I am sure she did want that and she probably did pray that - but she never imagined it in the way it turned out and the way that Davey wants us to believe. Davey and Ashley have both pointed that out on social media in those exact words.

It really is like they are trying to convince us that Amanda would be ok with this and even that it's what she would've wanted !

Bobcat said...

With respect to Amanda praying that she wanted the agenda for her life to be God's agenda for her life at the leadership conference in the old abandoned hotel basement gym just days before she was killed - I am sure she did want that and she probably did pray that - but she never imagined it in the way it turned out and the way that Davey wants us to believe. Davey and Ashley have both pointed that out on social media in those exact words.

It really is like they are trying to convince us that Amanda would be ok with this and even that it's what she would've wanted!


...Except for when she was fighting to save Weston's life...who was "up in his crib", "completely untouched, completely unharmed".

If Amanda fought to save Weston, that would indicate that Weston was in harm's way.
Was Weston the target? Did Amanda sacrifice herself to save Weston?

Sometimes she gives her life. Sometimes she fights, but never for her own life; only for Weston's.

Did Amanda fight FOR HER OWN LIFE???

How dare she fight FOR HER OWN LIFE! I wonder if DB can't bring himself to say it because she was wrestling/fighting WITH HIM? Did he wrestle and fight to subdue her for Larry?

But "she was about to get up anyway" when she ROSE up with her strong left arm TO FIGHT FOR HER OWN LIFE. Not mine, not yours, not Resonate church, not all of Christianity.

SHE FOUGHT FOR HER OWN LIFE.

flightfulbird said...

According to the APC, the Forensic Specialist Melissa Wilson acquired fingernail scrapings - an exam had also previously been done at Methodist Hospital by Forensic Nurse Tammy Wolverton.

The APC also states "Taylor stated that she charged at him and he shot her somewhere in the upper body so he would not be scratched".

We don't know whether or not the fingernail scrapings revealed DNA, but if they did - - then who got scratched? It sort of sounds like Taylor avoided being close enough to get scratched - and that he somehow also avoided getting blood on him - or at least didn't leave any evidence of it to be found in the Sebring.

I wonder about the mark on Davey's face in his interviews during the media blitz.
Who knocked out Amanda's tooth?
If Amanda scratched Davey, they will know (obviously huh).

Sirensong said...

Trudy, I just watched the full one hour and 31inutes of DB'S last video, faithful you'be bee, faithful you'll be. I can honestly say I don't know what to think. It is the story, with singing between each part, of Resonate church, being compared to Abraham's story, because DB thinks there are many similarities. At the 1 hr mark, he talks about AB's death (not murder) and how trusting in God has brought so many great things to Resonate since her passing. Because of my belief that DB was involved, I watched it with bias against him, and saw his narcissism, his inappropriate sex talk, his jokes that aren't funny and how very comfortable he is in persuading and believing that because his and Resonate's faith, AB's death has brought more people to Jesus which in turn is blessing Resonate church with big things as well as hope for the future. It is now Resonate's story which DB will continue to lead. Of course he sniffed a few times for Amanda, mentioned his book, how it was his idea to relaunch Resonate 2years ago which no one believed in but brought the most people they ever had, and how AB owed in front of him on their honeymoon and when she did pregnancy test. How old Abraham and his wife were when they had to physically show action (have sex) to receive God's gift (Isaac). Nothing new, same old Davey behavior. I don't like listening to him, because he does get serious and says all the things he should about having faith in God etc., but I am watching the man I believe to be deceitful delivering the message, and I don't like the way that makes me feel. What interested you most Trudy? Like flightfulbird says, (which is not true, I love her posts) I feel I am not good at posting compared to all our intelligent regular posters, but this case makes me want to post because I feel the same as others do and need an outlet to express some of my thoughts. I get so angry that it wasn't investigated, as far as I know, to the extent that I believe ite should have been, and that most likely many years will go by before anyone looks into DB, if ever. Look at beautiful Sierra LaMar and her family, being put off for 5years before a trial is even started. I love reading everyone's posts, and am thankful for all the thoughts and Bobcats blog that keeps this discussion alive.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

flightful,

If Amanda scratched Davey, it can be explained by consensual marital sex. "You must submit".

"It will be -; it will make you sore." (Did he almost say painful?)

But, if there are taped recordings of DB explaining "anything goes in the bedroom" scratches, his language may be deceptive.

Bingo said...

Great posts guys! So glad to see that the discussion has picked back up a bit leading up to the Crimewire. (ha, I sound like Davey talking up "leading up to the event")

Trudy and Siren, that 2 year anniversary sermon was as about as crazy a thing that I have seen in a long time. Warning to anyone who plans to watch it, it will make your stomach turn. I usually only watch the first ten minutes of his sermons because I just can't keep watching. This one was like a terrible train wreck! I just couldn't turn away!! Crazy Davey has such delusions of grandeur for himself and Resonate that he just can't stop the comparisons of the Bible greats. This time it is Abraham.

The service began with a female voice reading from Amanda's journal about the call and move to Indy. It was just creepy. Next Meg discusses the year leading up to Davey being "called" to Indy. She claims saw it in his "eyes" that he was about to be part of something big. Yeah, Meg, the look in his eyes was uncontrollable greed and hunger for fame. Davey saw from his mentors Perry Noble and Steven F that preaching could be quite lucrative and the fame intoxicating for a narcissistic such as Davey. He was too great to be an associate youth pastor! Time to torch his own path!

Bingo said...

These pics tell his story. This is pure narcissism, folks. Rockstar Jesus pose.


Davey's Latest Pic on FB
https://www.facebook.com/blackburndavey/photos/a.1214728805206174.1073741828.1187322304613491/1442347569110962/?type=3&theater

The pic Davey has as Resonate Cover photo

https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/photos/a.415841835108237.115277.292043477488074/1561076493918093/?type=1&theater

The pic Davey has as Resonate Cover photo

Anonymous said...

Next Meg discusses the year leading up to Davey being "called" to Indy. She claims saw it in his "eyes" that he was about to be part of something big.

He was "called" after he was passed over for a promotion at Newspring, and called a friend to "talk him off a ledge".

Anonymous said...

When Davey got passed over, Meg also stayed stuck in her lowly position. The higher he goes, the higher she goes.

Bingo said...

Bobcat, Exactly!

Who else was disturbed when he started doing the porn tune while talking about what Abraham and Sarah had to do to make Isaac. And saying the first time he saw Amanda naked was when she peed in front of him on their honeymoon night. He also informed his audience that the reason she needed to pee was from drinking Starbucks because they were gonna stay up all night and then gave the audience the sly smile. I mean come on, who needs to hear these things. Is anything sacred to him? Obviously his marriage was not!

Bingo said...

There were a few other members that spoke at the anniversary sermon. They are drinking the Crazy Davey kool-aid. One man said that Amanda would have died just to see one person come to Christ. What? I mean come on. How can he know that. She didn't need to die to see people come to Christ. I can't imagine her thinking I would gladly get beaten and executed in my own my home with my child upstairs to ensure someone becomes a Christian. Another member actually said, it was almost a good thing that Amanda died because of all the miracles that had happened since she died. REALLY?? Davey is brain washing these people. At the end there were about 5 people that sent in videos from their phones. Resonate had been asking for weeks that people send in videos stating how much Resonate had changed their lives. That is all they could get? A handful? I imagine Amanda would have changed more than a handful of lives in the last 1 1/2 years despite Davey. This story is just so twisted.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, can you post links to Davey getting passed over for promotion and a friend talking him off the ledge? TIA!

Anonymous said...


Bingo said...
This is pure narcissism, folks. Rockstar Jesus pose.





DB narcissism--Has that ever been doubted?

Anonymous said...

No new evidence, I see.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 2:15,

Did through the old Resonate podcasts. Davey tells the story of being called to Indy.

Trudy said...

Besides inviting his audience to imagine Amanda naked and urinating on the toilet with the door wide open, making lewd references to Abraham and Sarah copulating (while making bow-chicka-wow-wow porn noises) and comparing 5 families leaving Resonate to adult circumcision, it was pretty standard Sunday fare.

Davey describes God asking Abraham to murder Isaac as if was the most natural thing in the world. And Abraham is a good bloke because he trusts God and does whatever God wants without question.

It is the conflation of stories of human sacrifice, God asking bizarre and terrible things of his followers, with Amanda's story that is disturbing.

Davey frequently references Ezekiel inviting the obvious comparison, and in this sermon, seems to be comparing himself to Abraham.
At one point he says "Abrahm didn't actually have to kill Isaac" because God stopped him as the knife was raised in his hand, but it is clear that Abraham was good and faithful because he was WILLING to murder/sacrifice for God. It is also clear that Davey's God is a brutal and bloodthirsty maniac as is evidenced in the shower scene (would you be willing to sacrifice your bride so that my bride can come to life?)

In terms of motive for Davey to kill Amanda, I am pretty sure it was a bit of a combo of the pregnancy, and his own greed and ruthless ambition. In the latest sermon Davey displays his frantic desperation to grow Resonate and his discouragement with failure over the past few years. Frantic desperation. The church they planted failed to thrive. And now Amanda was pregnant again.

This pregnancy was very different from the last one. Davey says that, with Weston, they decided to do the pregnancy test together on Thanksgiving day. (Happy, loving couple, excited about a wanted baby, right? Fast forward 14 months and not only does Amanda initially keep the pregnancy secret from Davey, she takes the pregnancy test with her sister, the news has to be "broken" to Davey.

Several of the couples doing a piece to camera talk about Amanda's murder. They all say that the message they received was that she had a head wound. One person mentioned it being pregnancy related. A LOT of people got that misinformation. Davey was rat cunning to call his father to spread his lies, before he got to the hospital and there could be no doubt (?!) Amanda had been executed.

Davey really ramps up his disgusting theatrics at the end of the sermon where he demands that everyone give Jesus a big Ol cheer for all the fantastic things he has done over the past two years and then insists everyone do it again because it wasn't loud enough. And as he is whipping himself into a frenzy (not an understatement) he says something really weird. He says that Resonate should make so much noise cheering for God that " heaven will come crawling out of the gates".

Heaven will come crawling out of the gates. Anyone?

















Trudy said...

A theme running through the sermon was acting on "the whisper of a promise". It is important to ACT on the whisper of a promise. Davey refers to himself as crazy about a dozen times and cites examples of when he acted on the whisper of a promise from God.

Moving to Indianapolis was acting on the whisper of a promise. Moving to an auditorium that seats 900 was acting on the whisper of a promise from God. The point is that Davey (like Abraham) is willing to take seemingly crazy steps to act on the whisper of a promise from God. It sounds delusional if not schitzophrenic.. If Davey believes that the whispered promises he hears is actually gods voice and, that it is important to act on those whispered promises, who knows what he is capable of?

Sirensong said...

Great posts Bingo and Trudy. After watching it myself, I was not able to write all the things he and his church mates said. Anon 3:13, this is evidence to me as to what happened to Amanda, whether the court has the evidence or not.
It just makes me sick to see the members of the church parrot his words about Amanda dying, wanting to die and all the blessings that DB and the church recievrs for her sacrafice. It's like a cult because they obviously haven't really thought about what he is saying. If that's the case, why didn't DB sacrfice his life, he is the leader. And yes, all the talk of sex is annoying and inappropriate. Just what kinda role model do this younger people have.

Anonymous said...

If a few board commenters can see this so clearly, I feel sure LE will catch on soon. If you can see the evidence, why is LE so clueless....not seeing what is so clear, especially to about four commenters here?

Anonymous said...

Give it up, anon at 10:51 and 10:55. You are outnumbered here.

Anonymous said...

And contributing nothing.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Trudy- Thank you for the sermon summary!

It's interesting that Davey references Abraham and equates himself to him. Abraham, a mighty man of God, had an only son that he was willing to sacrifice for God; Davey also had an only son at the time of the event. Davey, pastoring a 3 year-floundering church propped up by NewSpring or Perry Noble monies, had just come off of reading how Levi Lusko's ministry exploded following the death of his young daughter.

In the account of Abraham, Abraham had already decided, purposed, and made all the necessary arrangements to kill his son. He was wholly committed to it even as he raised the knife, but providentially God gives him a ram to sacrifice instead. Davey's strongly asserted (and Amber echoed) that Amanda, the Fighter and Fierce Warrior Princess died protecting Weston. Nothing was reported stolen from upstairs and Weston was cooing softly behind his still-closed door while Amanda died "in a position of surrender".

-By the way, how did Davey know that Weston's door had not been opened by Amanda or an intruder and subsequently re-closed?

The account of Abraham and Isaac:
Abraham had been called out of the land of the Chaldeans, a people whose idol worship centered around sacrificing (their children, among other things) to their gods. There were 2 reasons God asked Abraham to sacrifice his long-hoped for, long-awaited son. First, God never intended for Abraham to actually kill Isaac. By providing the sacrifice Himself, He was showing Abraham that He was unlike any of the gods Abraham had ever experienced. Secondly, the Abraham-Isaac event was foreshadowing. In essence, He was showing Abraham "The Plan"- that God was going to willingly sacrifice His only Son for humanity's sins. Isaac going to the altar willingly and trustingly was also a parallel to the relationship between Jesus and His Father.

**None of which has anything to do with a "home invasion/robbery" murder of a pregnant pastor's wife.

flightfulbird said...

Did Weston = Isaac somehow - and Amanda protected him?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Davey's Latest Sermon
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/faithful-youve-been-faithful-youll-be/

At the 2:28 mark, Davey says that on November 11, 2011 they loaded up the cars and moved to Indy...except that in the initial Resonate Church Articles of Incorporation on November 29, 2011, Davey's address is listed as 8108 Wind Drift Circle Brownsburg IN. That address is also associated with James M. Cook and Barbara Cook (a.k.a. Jim & Bobbi Cook of Jim Cook Ministries, also of Genesis Ministries of Delaware Inc.).

-O/T SIDE NOTE: Genesis Ministries of Delaware Inc.'s Director(Michael Palmer Pensacola FL)has had numerous allegations of child abuse in Mexico, CA, and FL. The Third Board Member is Steve Pigott a Child/Youth Evangelist for 40 years based out of Fairfax VA.

Anonymous said...

LOLOLOL

I'm outnumbered here? Well, duuuuh. And what does that mean? Give it up, as you say? Haha.

Nope. I will continue to point out the folly of your ways.

I am quite aware of the scriptural explanations regarding biblical people, and I even accept those explanations (maybe unlike Trudy), BUT at the time, the vast majority of people did not have the hindsight for interpretation, so they questioned and rejected, calling the characters involved crazy, evil, godless, possessed.....you name it. Jesus Christ was rejected to the ultimate, and guess what, he WAS/IS God.

Now, I'm not equating Davey to God....I'm equating you people's reactions to Davey to the crowd mentality involved. You have no evidence that DB was involved in Amanda's murder. You merely dislike him for all his extremely unlikeable qualities. In fact, the discussion for months has focused primarily upon Davey's disgusting personality and narcissistic behavior, not evidence (because you have none). All appear to be the case, but none of those things equate to his being a murderer.

Anonymous said...

Davey definitely does change details of his story based on what he reads online. In his first few versions of finding Amanda, he says he thought there was something wrong with the pregnancy. There would be no reason to check on Weston, just call 911. When it became obvious that Davey should have known that Amanda's condition was not the result of "something wrong with the pregnancy" (a miscarriage wouldn't cause you to lose consciousness), Davey added the detail about hearing Weston cooing upstairs. He adds this so that we won't question why he didn't immediately check on his son - he didn't need to. I can't wait for Davey to take the stand. The prosecutor will probably lob softballs at him but hopefully the defense attorneys go after him.

Anonymous said...

Anon @7:50 am, you have to admit the circumstantial evidence is pretty compelling.

Anonymous said...

Uh....Davey is not on trial. He will be a witness, and I doubt it's going to be as dramatic as you think. You know why? Because they have not investigated Davey. He has never been under suspicion. He isn't charged with anything. He was cleared. If prosecutors introduced certain lines of questioning, they would be stopped by the judge. It would be inappropriate.

So.....in order for prosecution to go after Davey, first, they need to suspect him. They don't.

BTW, I wonder if LE is aware of Davey's statement "contradictions." Hmmm. I bet they know exactly what he said, what do you bet? And knowing, they still don't consider him a suspect.

Amazing.

Do you suppose they know more than you few here because they have access to so much more information?

Bbocat said...

fools @ 3:33

Very interesting info there.

Jim & Bobbi "Mamaw" Cook are Amanda's grandparents and Robin's parents.

Jim is a retired 'evangelist' who came to Christ 'later in life' according to an old bio.

Anonymous said...

Bbocat

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anon @7:50 am, you have to admit the circumstantial evidence is pretty compelling.





The bulk of the "evidence" I've seen here is merely commenters taking something Davey-related and stretching it to fit their narrative.

What is your evidence?

Bobcat said...

Bbocat = Bobcat in a hurry. :-)

Anonymous said...

I liked the variation.

flightfulbird said...

The bulk of the "evidence" I've seen here is merely commenters taking something Davey-related and stretching it to fit their narrative.

There's not really too much stretching required. . . and the narrative writes itself.

flightfulibird said...

Actually no stretching required at all.

Bobcat said...

Davey's words tell us the narrative.

A large part of his deception is concealed information.

We are just guessing what really happened during the time periods that DB is concealing.

If he would tell what happened on 11/9 and 11/10/2015 without changing the story and jumping over time, we wouldn't have to guess.

Concerned said...

Anon, you said: "...they have not investigated Davey. He has never been under suspicion. He isn't charged with anything."

I'm always surprised that you know so much with such certainty.
If LE failed to even consider the husband/person who found Amanda,
we should all be alarmed.

It's important to remember that commenters here, as well as
Peter Hyatt and many professional investigators have tapped into Davey's
probable pre-crime knowledge (if not involvement) because of HIS words and actions.

Statement Analysis points toward Davey. If you have no confidence in SA, so be it.
And if that is so, I wonder why you even care that this small group of interested parties does.
I don't come here often but when I do, I find you have expressed ridicule at these commenters.
So odd.

If you do, indeed, have certain knowledge that Davey has never been investigated, please share the links
with Indy LE.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

If they have investigated, they either have NO evidence to arrest Davey, or they are sitting on evidence that would link him to murder, yet, they are NOT arresting him but allowing a murderer to live freely among others. Rather irresponsible and careless of them, wouldn't you say?

Has LE been made aware or made themselves aware of Peter's analysis? If not, why not? Surely LE has read here and has knowledge of the SA for Davey.

flightfulbird said...

I believe LE feels that Davey wasn't a danger to anyone but Amanda - and she's out of the picture now.

It's not like leaving him roaming freely is endangering the general population of Indianapolis in any way, shape or form - so there's no need to capture him until they have finished building their case and know they have evidence to show a jury and get a conviction.

He is not a danger as far as murder goes- now, whatever danger he poses to his "flock" of impressionable kids - with his misguided teachings and graphic talk - is another story.

I found it interesting when someone said upthread that those in the house should beware (not in so many words) - that Davey might forget to open the flue one night when he makes his fires - or something like that. But that would be obvious, as would it be if something happened to Weston now in the vein of Levi Lusko's child.

It would be more irresponsible and careless of LE to arrest Davey before they had everything in place and enough evidence to get a conviction - for several reasons, one of which is that suspicion alone isn't enough to convict.

And if there's not ever going to be enough evidence of any kind found to support bringing him in, then there's no need for anyone here to worry. The only reason to worry is if something was missed, left behind, that could incriminate Davey - or if his words and actions are pieces to a puzzle that incriminate him and lead to further investigation (which might be going on right now, even).

And there's REALLY no need to worry about this pastor being a murderer loose in indy. If he had anything to do with Amanda, it was her alone that was his target.

Anonymous said...

Davey's headed to Goshen on the 17th.

https://www.facebook.com/thriveworshiptogether

Anonymous said...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211741361111277&set=a.2591341624581.2145596.1285843155&type=3&theater

"I don't know a better way to spend a Friday Night! Gavin and I would travel anywhere to hear Davey speak, but it's even more awesome when it's in your town with your own community! Would love to worship with you all!" (Amber lives in Goshen)

Bingo said...

Does Amber not hear Davey cutting down Amanda just about every single time he speaks? Unbelievable.

This is the Real Kicker!
https://www.facebook.com/radiantgirlsretreat/photos/a.1610602535825704.1073741829.1590354011183890/1922133521339269/?type=3&theater

The lady in charge I believe has Newspring connections. Davey calls women "chicks". He talks about sex all the time. He talks about women being worked on instead of worked out. He brings a gun on stage two days before his wife his executed and instead of apologizing for it,he posts it a few days after her funeral. He constantly makes fun of people's appearance and is crass and inappropriate. I think this is a Great reason to have him speak at a girls retreat. SMH

Anonymous said...

Maybe part of the reason Amber's family is standing behind Davey is similar to why Sharon Rocha originally believed Scott had nothing to do with Laci's disappearance: it would be another devastating blow that would be too much to take.

Rocha, two weeks after Laci’s disappearance: The people who know Scott and Laci have no doubt whatsoever that he has nothing to do with her disappearance.

Rocha: Every single time I said that I meant that. He was my son as far as I was concerned. And he loved my daughter I thought. And I know how Laci loved Scott. And for the longest time it was hard to separate those two. It was hard to separate my son-in-law from a murderer.

Interesting to note that Sharon Rocha said that Scott said he was "fine" three weeks after the murder. Davey has told us that Weston's doing great and he's OK, too.

Rocha: And I remember him holding his head back, you know, and telling me that, “Somebody asked me today how am I.” And “I said ‘I’m fine.’” And I was looking at him. And he said “and that really surprised me because I really am fine.” I mean, I felt like somebody had just hit me in the stomach. It just took my breath away. Laci’s been gone three weeks, how can you say “you’re fine”?

Anonymous said...

I believe Robin, Amber, and Amanda were all raised to be obedient and supportive wives, and to NEVER utter a non-supportive word about their husbands. That's easy enough to do if the husband is a decent guy, but Davey is a narcissistic lying wolf in sheep's clothing.

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If they have investigated, they either have NO evidence to arrest Davey, or they are sitting on evidence that would link him to murder, yet, they are NOT arresting him but allowing a murderer to live freely among others. Rather irresponsible and careless of them, wouldn't you say?

Has LE been made aware or made themselves aware of Peter's analysis? If not, why not? Surely LE has read here and has knowledge of the SA for Davey.

February 12, 2017 at 9:46 PM Delete


I am not associated with the case, so what follows is speculation.

I do not believe LE has evidence linking the husband to the murderers. If they have some evidence, or even suspicion, they are not going to present it to a DA unless it can be proven in court.

I hope to address this and other issues on Crime Wire.


Peter



flightfulbird said...

May I ask how to access the Crime Wire broadcast please ?!

Anonymous said...

Crime watch: when it's on
https://crimewatchdaily.com/page/2015/06/03/when-its-on/

Trudy said...

Thanks Peter. I cannot wait to listen to Crime Wire! I hope you mention such favourites from Blackburn as "there couldn't have been a better time in Weston's life for an event like this to happen"., "would she have still said yes? (To moving to Indy if she knew she was going to be murdered in her own home)"the shower scene wherein God tell Davey Amanda had to die so His Bride could come to life and "dry bones" A short clip of Davey telling his young congregation that wives must always submit sexually to their husbands even if they don't want to, might be fitting as well.

This is Davey's latest Insta. Next to an open bible page:-

daveyblackburn: oh to be described like David - skillful, valiant, prudent, poised, and anointed

Firstly, "oh" is the linguistic equivalent of clasping your hands together, eyes skyward. Does anyone have anything to say about the word "oh" being written in a statement?
Secondly he only wants to DESCRIBED as skilful, valiant, etc. He doesn't express a desire to actually BE those things. It is more important to be seen by others to be those things.
Thirdly, if you look at the bible verse to which he refers, you will see that somewhere between valiant and prudent is "warlike". It's interesting he left that one out. Unexpected.
Lastly, yeah, nah. Oh! I think I'll keep describing him as crazy Davey - a deceitful, murderous, narcissistic sociopath - ain't nothin too valiant, nor prudent to skip off to the gym leaving the front door unlocked and leaving your sleeping family, unprotected, and vulnerable, to their fate.


Trudy said...

Who would diminish those very strange statements?

Diminish? Who the what now?

Those 'very strange statements are my favourite examples of linguistic red flags.

Anonymous said...

Larry Taylor should hire Elle Woods.

flightfulbird said...

I would like to know what Statement Analysis says about changing stories - how Davey can say he honestly had no idea that anyone had been in his house - after already reporting things that shouldn't be there to detectives.

I would like to know why he led Perry Noble and his Dad and others to believe Amanda had had "an accident" which caused a "head wound" - and how in the world (how the hell) he can say he honestly thought something had gone horrifically wrong with, uh, the pregnancy when all of the evidence of a home invasion and assault (and shooting?) was staring him in the face.

Thank you for all you do, Peter.

flightfulbird said...

Larry Taylor should hire Elle Woods.

I LOVE that movie - and yeah he should.

Anonymous said...


Trudy said...
Who would diminish those very strange statements?

Diminish? Who the what now?

Those 'very strange statements are my favourite examples of linguistic red flags.
February 14, 2017 at 10:41 PM




This is entertainment to you. You have "favourites" in this tragedy.

SA gold.

Bingo said...

I am very much looking forward to Crime Wire, Peter. I hope to call in with questions. I am most interested to hear more about how Davey was able to cover his trail so well. I have watched enough crime shows to know that police HAVE to present A LOT of evidence to get an arrest. Otherwise, they are setting themselves up for lawsuits. As a social worker, I know all to well about the CYA syndrome. They had low hanging fruit in the 3 thugs for an easy arrest with DNA evidence. This crime went a lot higher up. I am at the point where I don't think Davey will go down for this unless he accidentally spills the beans or commits another crime. I know Peter has said this all along but I have finally accepted it in my heart.

I do have a few more ?'s for Peter on the 23rd. Why was the 911 kept so secretive? Do you think there was any kind of police cover up? Do you think some of the investigators are suspicious of him (how could they not be??) but can't connect the thugs to him because the thugs were not even aware why they were going to the house?

Also, why say "Amanda didn't have an enemy in the world" when it was called a random burglary gone wrong? Also, why say "we have nothing to hide" instead of saying I am glad they cleared me quickly so we can get busy removing these dangerous men off the street. It was a completely unexpected and liars answer.

Why use a gun to represent getting rid of things that cause you stress and worry? And better yet, why post it on the church website shortly after the wife of the "Lead Pastor" was shot by just that weapon?

These are just a few of my ?'s for now


Bingo said...

Trudy, I thought that Instagram post was quite telling also. He is obsessed with being a warrior for God. Does he even celebrate the gospel? It is all about him being called out and fighting, being dangerous. Prudent? Really? Leaving the door unlocked for your family to get murdered and then profiting from the brutal execution. Davey Blackburn is anything but prudent! I do agree that he is dangerous.

Has anyone watched the latest sermon.
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/economic-atheist-week-1-whos-number-1/
I only watched the first few minutes but he basically takes out a wad of cash from his skin tight pants. (oh and that shirt! Was it painted on him?) He tells his audience that it is a $1000 cash. He takes it in the crowd (more like the sprinkling of people that attend) and has several people hold it. He asks them if they have ever held $1000 in their hands before? They all say no and Davey acts surprised and says something about them being young teenagers. (as though holding that kind of cash was nothing new to him) He then makes them smell the money. He says doesn't it smell and feel so good? He starts talking about God wants us to be happy with our financial situation and talks about being good friends with Dave Ramsey. The cuckoo clock noise rang loudly in my head as I watched it unfold.

Anonymous said...

Watchkeep is asking for the screenshot of the friendship between Treezy and CD on FB before it was mysteriously deleted. Does anyone on here have it?

flightfulbird said...

I wish the 911 call would be public and available for statement analysis. Those who have requested it have been told by the Marion County Prosecutor's office that it is being withheld because it is part of an active investigation.

I continue to have trouble understanding why it would be withheld for a case against those in custody but I can see several reasons where it might implicate Davey, depending on what he said and didn't say to the 911 dispatcher.

Did he say he just got back from the gym (and/or include that he is Davey Blackburn, lead pastor of Resonate Church hahaha) before asking for help? Did he really say words to indicate that Amanda was only "injured and unconscious" as opposed to expressing the true scenario that there had clearly been a home invasion and Amanda had been assaulted, shot, with the ladder turned over and credit cards scattered?

Might this topic come up on the CrimeWire broadcast?

Davey's pimple said...

"flightfulbird said...

There's not really too much stretching required. . . and the narrative writes itself.

February 12, 2017 at 2:14 PM"


You must be kidding. The fantasy narrative that Davey shot Amanda himself and framed the poor, innocent thugs is the biggest stretch of them all. You and your friends disregard all evidence that places the thugs in the house at the time of the gunshots because it doesn't fit your narrative. You don't see how ridiculous it is and, sadly, probably never will.

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