Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2801 – 3000 of 4313 Newer› Newest»Your link isn't working for me, maybe she deleted her page. I am sure you are right as you have probably been researching this for a while, and I was at the end of my rope by 4AM. It shows two Ls in Allison in the APC when it describes her call to the police, they just misspell it? You guys are probably from Indiana and know the people, I am just interested because I found out the pastor here in DE was involved and definitely do not think the story or his actions are right.
Ah yes, the pastor of United Church (?) in Delaware.
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/kenneth-wagnor-statement-analysis.html
Pastor/church planter Kenneth Wagner and his statement "And what you need to know about this story is that me and Davey would speak every Tuesday morning from 7–8. Davey had gotten off the phone with me, finished our conversation and walked in and found Amanda" - this is the guy with whom Davey "jumped on the phone" on Tuesday November 10, 2015 as he was "finishing up his workout".
These two talked on the phone all the way from inside LA Fitness to Davey's car in the parking lot to the driveway at Davey's house - and then Davey sat and cruised on the phone for another 50 minutes, from 7:30am to about 8:20am - and THEN Kenneth Wagner tweeted right after they disconnected about loving his weekly conversations with Davey Blackburn? (and having a true friend to do life with).
Derek Barrett introduced Kenneth Wagner at Resonate as someone who goes to war for Davey, who goes to war WITH Davey. He didn't include "who creates alibis for Davey" but it is kind of (almost certainly in my mind) implied that these two are close enough that Kenneth would cover for Davey. Maybe inadvertently slipped by Derek, but yeah.
What would cause Kenneth Wagner to tweet about that conversation on that particular Tuesday morning when he had never tweeted about their chats before and had only mentioned Davey in tweets a couple of times before?
They were scheduled to speak every Tuesday from 7am to 8am - a gym rat like Davey would have worked his training around the phone call - not have had to hastily quit a workout early or jump on the phone as he was finishing up his training (as he said) - and then the call ran well past 8am as well - while Davey was sitting on the driveway in his wet gym clothes.
Alison Becker called 911 at 8:17am - Davey called 911 at 8:22am.
What time had Davey "gotten off the phone with" Kenneth, "finished our conversation" and walked in and found Amanda in the condition she was in ?
The APC states this -
Blackburn stated that he remained on the phone on the way home and was still on the phone when he arrived home at approximately 7:30 a.m. He stayed on the phone in his driveway until he entered (house) around 8:20 a.m."
So Davey saw Alison Becker's car hit her driveway, allowed enough time for her to walk in, discover HER home invasion and call 911 at 8:17am - and then HE called 911 at 8:22am. How convenient.
I wonder if Kenneth Wagner was still on the phone when Davey walked in? Reading back over the analysis, it's almost like Kenneth needed to convince that the conversation was finished BEFORE Davey walked into the house.
Phone records would be interesting. Not just for phone call dates and durations with Kenneth Wagner but also with a certain Kristi Monroy from the same LA Fitness on Shore Drive.
This has all been written before but it is bothering me today.
Great post FFB. Just to piggy back off your post, all is great and well in Daveyland, but when we consider there was a neighbor who handed over his entire hard drive with surveillance to law enforcement, well that could potentially be very damning, I wonder if that piece of evidence has been shared with the defense yet. Depending on how far back it goes, it could or should establish Davey's patterns and routines easily. That neighborhood was well stocked with surveillance cameras, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they don't destroy or lose the evidence they have, with this case taking years to go to trial.
WOW Kate.
I didn't realize a neighbor handed over his entire hard drive - that should have weeks on end of surveillance ! It should be obvious that Davey broke his routine on that Tuesday. More than one neighbor knew that Davey was usually out to the gym by 5:30, right?
- He was awake at 4:30am that Tuesday but didn't make it out the door to the gym until 6:10am - what was he doing (besides NOT praying for protection for Weston, just for Amanda and "Evie") - that bothers me too for obvious reasons - if this was a random home invasion that was completely unexpected, why did he have a sense of needing to pray for protection for only PART of his family?
- He said he was frustrated that he didn't have the things he needed in his gym bag to shower at the gym and that was why he came home to shower - I don't believe for one second that a gym rat like Davey didn't have his bag packed the night before, nor do I believe that he didn't wear his gym clothes to the gym especially if he was running behind that morning. Why waste time changing at the gym when he could just jump into his clothes straight out of bed and save time. Yet he says he grabbed his gym clothes vs grabbed his gym bag . . .
how hard has it been to keep all of the stories straight, Davey? I bet you never figured people would be transcribing your appearances word for word, stutter for stutter, for going on three years now.
- He explained away Amanda's "hyster- , like, gut laughing" from the night before as her laughing at dumb finds on Instagram and bothering him while he was trying to sleep (covering for screaming, in case neighbors heard anything?)
I remember reading that there were multiple cameras - now if only all of this is being analyzed and yeah not destroyed or lost.
Davey was assured by the prosecutors that they had a solidly-built case to levy justice - well I'm sure that helped him sleep at night. I'm sure it also helped him feel like "nobody is looking at me" - which might've been exactly what they hoped to accomplish by telling him that - same as with assuring the public (and Davey) that he had been cleared 100 - no, 150%.
Too funny when someone on this board wrote that they wondered exactly what 80% cleared would look like.
And if the case was so solidly-built against those in custody, they wouldn't have pled out two of them already and be delaying the third trial as long as they have.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK !
https://wthr.com/article/husband-100-cleared-in-murder-of-pregnant-indianapolis-mother In this clip, the neighbor says he thinks they were able to discern the car and some of the details, and "people are seen on the video too". People, plural, kind of breaks from the narrative given so far. It also states other neighbor's gave le weeks of surveillance footage.
And le released two grainy, no-possible-way to identify anything from, pictures. It will be interesting to hear the reasons given as to why the delay in releasing any pics/video footage when there were murderer's and a rapist on the loose, almost two weeks at large with no public warning to bolo. No pic was ever released of either vehicles mentioned that morning as well. Man I wish Netflix would pick this case up, it would be very worthy of their time.
^ ^ ^ published November 12th at 10:15am. . . 100% cleared.
I wonder how many people were working around the clock to check all of the gym tapes, cell phone records, bank and financial statements, connections of friends on Facebook, connections to kids who went to school where Resonate Church is held and where Davey was a substitute teacher.
Oh wait, they didn't check all of that. It would be impossible to clear all of that and totally rule out murder for hire in less than 48 hours, no matter how many people were working.
And - just seeing Davey Blackburn on camera at LA Fitness does absolutely nothing to rule out anything happening to Amanda BEFORE Davey left for the gym . . .
. . . nothing to rule out what could have happened on Monday night, throughout the night, on Tuesday morning. . .
Amanda disappears completely from Davey's speech after he mentions her laughing hyster-, like gut laughing at dumb finds on Instagram - and tucking Weston into bed and kissing him goodnight on Monday ("and that was the last time you saw her").
Kate, great info. I am passing that on to Larry Taylor's public defender. If LE somehow deleted or damaged any of that tape, then they will have a lot of explaining to do.
Does anyone else think Davey is planning to leave Indiana sooner rather that later? He's actually letting the other pastor preach, that Jon Berry guy that's been there since Jan and whose only job appears to be a note-taker during Davey's awful sermons.
To the point of evidence, do we know exactly what evidence is deemed as missing, lost or misplaced from this investigation? TIA
Please see chatzy for some ideas regarding how to proceed discussions further, please.
I love you guys for staying with this case for so long. My favorite hat is off to the True Devotees!
I went to chatzy but didn't/don't know how to find your group. I honestly have not even known about the case but for 3 days, but I guess I am slightly obsessed with it now. What flightfulbird stated at July 11, 2018 at 6:14 PM about DB waiting to see Allison get home before he went in was part of my thinking in my late night rant that doesn't make as much sense after reading it now. Would love to hear more insight into the case from you who have been with it for so long. Is the Kate that posts here the one from the videos on youtube?
I think it is interesting that in less than two years after leaving Newspring, Perry Noble is already obtaining a church building (set to be ready in September) for his 2nd Chance Church. However, he still lives in an apartment.
Davey on the other hand, took donations through his church for two years (going straight to himself), cashed out on a huge insurance policy (his words in his ebook) and bought a giant 1/2 million dollar home. However, he still has church in school building although his church is almost 8 years old. His volunteers get up in the wee hours on Sunday morning and set up and don't leave until mid-afternoon. They have to load and reload every single Sunday. Do they not ever get a little angry that selfish, conniving Davey took all the money for himself and they have to do all the work (Davey does not help). Instead of putting any of the millions toward his own church that he said Amanda died so it could grow? He even said she stopped him on a life insurance talk they were having and said "if soemthing were to happen to me, don't stop the work we are doing at Resonate and for Indy?" Yet he kept it all for himself and they still have no building.
Interesting posts. Maybe the reason that the trial for Amanda Blackburns murder is taking so long is because there is an investigation into crazy Davey's shady financial dealings? It's surprising that the insurance company paid out before the trial. Even before anyone was arrested for Amanda's murder. How could anyone look at the available information in this this case and not think crazy Davey is involved?
That is one thing that's impossible to believe - that the insurance company paid out so quickly, seemingly with no consideration whatsoever that this could have been a hit - or that it might have been the husband Davey Blackburn himself who killed Amanda.
I always thought insurance companies dug deeply to be sure in cases like this before paying out. I wonder how long it was before the murder that Davey took out the policy - and if he had increased the limits anytime in 2015?
The defense attorneys for Larry Taylor could (and should) use this majorly high life insurance payout as motive for sure - along with Davey and Kristi having a relationship in 2015, knowing each other from LA Fitness on Shore Drive before Amanda was killed.
In a murder investigation, motive, means and opportunity must be established.
Unless Larry Taylor's defense is that Crazy Davey shot Amanda, all Larry's defense is doing is establishing MOTIVES for Davey to have Amanda murdered.
Larry Taylor needs an alibi to prove that he (Larry Taylor) did not murder Amanda at crazy Davey's behest.
Larry Taylor had
1: motive = money for contract kill
2: means = a gun (he has been photographed with and had access to guns)
3: opportunity = he was on Sunnyfield in the early morning of 10th November as established by security footage and phone pings at the same time that gun shots were heard.
All Larry and his defense team is doing, by showing that Davey had motive to want Amanda dead (insurance/Kristi/whatever) is painting himself (Larry) into a corner.
It was a contract kill. Larry (or Diano or Jalen) was the killer.
Considering that Jalen and Diano were off using poor Amanda's bank card at the time of the shooting (according to the ear witness) while Larrys phone pinged on Sunnyfield (6:39 -7:10) and that Jalen and Diano have pleaded guilty to their part in Amanda's murder, .....it is reasonable to deduce that Larry shot Amanda.
Larrys defense (that crazy Davey had motive), if he (Larry) is going to admit to being in possession of his (Larry's) own phone on the morning of 10november 2015, is just a nail in his own coffin. Worse than useless.
I don't think anyone here is trying to exonerate Larry Taylor - but I KNOW people here would like for Larry Taylor's defense to point out the factoid that Davey had motive (he had MULTIPLE motives, actually) and that this could be a hit.
And in the pursuit of a defense for Larry, it makes total sense that the defense will offer up a more likely subject who could have inflicted Amanda's injuries and shot her. The "anyone but my client" defense, much ?
Even if Larry Taylor was, in fact, "the guy who actually pulled the trigger on Amanda" as Davey so helpfully pointed out, wouldn't it be good for the defense to show that it was orchestrated by the NOTloving husband, if it was? Say Larry Taylor's DNA places him in the house - there's no skin off of the defense's nose if Davey goes down as the mastermind at the same time, right?
More importantly, if (IF) there is no DNA from Larry Taylor in the house, would the mere presence of his cell phone place him physically in the house? I don't think it would place him there beyond a reasonable doubt - not a chance. Which then begs the question - if Larry Taylor wasn't in the house (if it cannot be proven conclusively that he was there), then how and when did all of this happen to Amanda?
Davey says Larry Taylor pulled the trigger on Amanda - but who beat her ? who knocked out her teeth ? - who pulled up her shirt and removed her underwear and scattered the earpods and credit cards on the floor and turned over the lamp and ladder ? Alot of things could have happened to Amanda Monday night, overnight into Tuesday, on Tuesday morning before Davey left for the gym - she could have been shot as well - before the accused ever pinged on Sunnyfield.
There is so much we don't know.
But I'll say it again - if Larry Taylor and the other two who have already pled out were actually the ones who did all of this to Amanda, why would Davey say he had no idea anyone had been in his house and be telling people alternately that he thought Amanda had fallen from the ladder while cleaning, hit her head, collapsed - and then be saying in appearances that he thought they had lost the baby?
Why didn't Davey stick with the home invasion story - if a random home invasion had actually happened and he had no idea it was going to happen, if he had absolutely no part in its orchestration? Davey's hiding the truth speaks more loudly than anything else in this case.
If Larry Taylor has his day in court, he will walk. I am not saying it is right or it is wrong, but given this case, it is my opinion that these particular charges including any involvement with the beating and execution of Amanda Blackburn, will be vacated in one form or another. He still has many other charges pending against him with previous charges, so it's likely he won't be walking the streets anytime soon. All you need is one iota of reasonable doubt and with this case, there is an endless supply.
1. Motive - Money for a contract kill. That will be difficult to prove in that Davey's money is easily buried and the $400.00 collected that morning, split among at least 3 people, wouldn't be enough for one person, let alone three. Motive for Davey - Wife out of the picture, new baby out of the picture, dog out of the picture, frumpy little house out of the picture, substantial life insurance policy gain, publicity, national tv appearances, merchandise uptick, attendance growth, mistress allowed to come out of hiding, vacations, new mcmansion, new vehicle, book deals, book signings, speaking engagements and sorry to be so graphic here, but the biggest bonus for Davey within a motive frame is, more sex, more sex, more sex. Which is why le should have confiscated Amanda's diaries and done a full sweep of the house the first time around, anything gained by the second sweep will be under heavy scrutiny for potential contamination. The entire crime scene was contaminated when Amanda's body was moved prior to le arriving. From blood spatter analysis to dna, it was compromised as le did not find her in her original position, the medics did.
2. Means - LT was photographed with a gun, as was Davey Blackburn. In fact, DB shot an airsoft gun at Zach at his church service, on video, a mere 2 days prior to Amanda's execution . DB also was the owner of guns, he and Amanda shared date nights on occasion at the gun range. Davey also stated to "break the teeth of my enemy" and two days later, Amanda's teeth were busted out of her mouth, along with a split lip and scratches to her cheek, but we will never know if Davey had caused those scratches because the opportunity for nail scraping was missed when he hopped in his car to follow the emts.
3. Opportunity - LT may or may not have been there. The cell phone pings have yet to go under scrutiny and be verified. Police can and do sometimes lie to get perps to admit to what they have done, it is a legal procedure that they will practice if needed. The surveillance images we have so far, can't put a lot of stock into making any positive identification based on what is shown with the few still shots they have released. It's impossible to even verify the gender of those two pics. They may have something more at trial and given the amount of surveillance camera's that were up and operating, not just on Amanda's street but the other surrounding street's as well, perhaps that will help put the puzzle together. Davey had opportunity. Two factors, because the body was moved, it will be difficult to establish the time she was shot. Because she didn't die in the house, it will be difficult to establish the time she was shot. Which leaves a wide open window of time for Davey to have knocked the teeth out of Amanda and used worship as a weapon to potentially execute his wife.
~Con't
I can't say one way or another if LT was involved or not, but the evidence presented against him in the apc, does not seem to be very solid. Hence the almost 3 year drag out of this case, the insulting $1,000.00 reward, the two out of three plea deals given, the non existent outcries from Davey demanding justice for his wife, the eerily quiet press, the blessed wedding nuptials. The person(s) who executed Amanda Blackburn hated her, it was a violent, angry, rage-fueled killing, it was personal, seething with hatred and dripping with so much hostility and venom that it wasn't enough, they had to then humiliate her further in death with removing her underwear and pulling her shirt up, she suffered tremendously. Whoever killed Amanda, knew her.
All my own opinion and will be glad to come back and admit I was wrong if a trial ever takes place and we ever get to the bottom of this.
Kate, it wasn't homicide, it was raged (deeply closeted) HomOcide. Look it up. When gays kill and it's personal, detectives have their own slang for that kind of personal murder.
Trudy @ 1:36am said "Larry Taylor needs an alibi to prove that he (Larry Taylor) did not murder Amanda at crazy Davey's behest."
No, actually he doesn't. He doesn't have to say a word or prove anything. It's the prosecution's job to present enough evidence that overwhelmingly points to Larry Taylor as the murderer. Merely showing a photograph of Larry posing with a gun (every gang member in the country is photographed with guns) or saying that was definitively Larry in security footage, when the other thugs admitted that the clothes in question belonged to Alonzo Bull, is not enough for a jury of 12 to convict. And the time of the murder has not been established. Three gunshots should have been heard by neighbors two blocks away, not solely by someone who didn't even appear to live on Davey's street.
I've always believed (and I continue to believe) that Natasha Jones Tank was instructed to say she "heard two gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream" - at that exact time of the morning.
It's true that Larry doesn't need to prove anything. My point is that Larry and the defense demonstrating to the jury that Davey Blackburn had motive to have Amanda murdered does not necessarily help him.
I am all for Larry and his defense having a go at Davey, but establishing that Davey had motive for wanting Amanda dead, also establishes that Davey had a motive to hire a hit man.
Larry doesn't need to prove he has an alibi. But it would sure help him, considering that his phone pings put him on Sunnyfield, where Amanda was murdered, at the same time as Natasha heard gunshots. He was also seen or surveillance cams onSunnyfield before being picked up in the stolen Sebring by his coaaccused. (His coaaccused, Jalen who has pleaded guilty) I don't know know where you get the idea that NTasha was "instructed" to say she heard gunshots. By who? Police?
What do you think Larrys coaccused, Jalen and Diano, have said/will testify under oath in court to about Larry? Have police told Jalen and Diano to lie about Larry under oath, as well as NJT?
The idea that "an iota" of doubt is needed is wrong. Beyond Reasonable doubt is not a beyond a shadow of a doubt, or an iota. It is reasonable doubt. Reasonable.
The phone pings, the surveillance tapes, and the testimony and evidence of Larrys coaccused won't leave much doubt in a reasonable person's mind. I'm not sure why you think the police have not got evidence againstLarry, or why you think that they would fabricate evidence and ask witnesses to lie, so that they can pin a fake murder charge on LJT. But there you go.
Of course Larry will present a TODDI or SODDI a defense (his coaccused or Davey Blackburn respectively) but I don't think Larry Taylor will "walk" for Amanda's murder. And he will not walk on the robbery and rape he committed with his coaccused on the3rd of November, a week before Amanda's murder, either. Fortunately he left his DNA behind on the victims underwear in that case. Of course, the jury may not hear about the rape. Larry will move to have rape suppressed or excluded or as a separate trial on the grounds that it is prejudicial to him. I hope the motion is not successful. The jury needs to hear about it. I'm not sure about the Hernandez murder that Larry is accused of. I'm pretty sure the police have evidence against Larry on that beyond phone pings. Just because we don't know the case for the prosecution, doesn't mean there isn't one.
Again,I'm not sure why you think the police don't have evidence on Larry beyond what was contained in the APC. Wait and hear what Larrys coaccused, Jalen and Diano have to say about Larrys involvement. You'll be sick to your stomach. As you probably know, Jalen is a convicted felon, (as is Diano) who was on parole for burglary and who is connected by physical evidence to the Searsbrook robberies, the Becker robbery and the Blackburn murder. Larry was with Jalen on the morning of Amanda's murder. With all the evidence against him, Jalen was still able to plea down to burglary with a weapon resulting in serious injury. (Diano too).
Are Indy police so corrupt that that they would forgo a certain murder conviction of Larrys older, habitual criminal coaccused, to secure a conviction of a (then) 18 year old boy, by fabricating evidence and asking witnesses to lie? A judge that found that there was a factual basis for Jalen and Diano to plead down from murder, is the judge corrupt too?
The reason Jalen and Diano were able to plead down from murder to serious injury is because they were there when Larry hit Amanda in the mouth with his gun and stole her bank card. They went to the bank. Larry stayed at the blackburn home and shot Amanda, and the prosecution will be able to present those facts. Let's not forget that Larrys coaccused have pleaded guilty to something that will get them 10-30 years each with NO avenue for appeal.
Personally, I would have liked to see all three charged under the felony murder rule and serve LWOP.
If you can accept that Larry broke into a woman's house and raped her multiple times, while she was naked, face down, with a gun to the back of her head, I'm not sure why there is such a disconnect that makes it impossible for you to believe he shot Amanda (who was found face down, half naked with a bullet wound in the back of her head. RIP Amanda Blackburn)
Larrys co accused (who pleaded GUILTY) are lying, the ear witness is lying and intends to commit perjury under oath, in court, the police are all lying and intend to commit perjury, the surveillance tape is too blurry, the phone pings are wrong. If there is DNA on the swisher sweets or the Becker bottles it was planted. Those are your conclusions before you've even heard the case for the prosecution OR (even more interestingly) before you've heard the case for the defense.
PS. To say that the earwitnesses is lying and has been told to lie (by police) because you don't think she "should" have been able to hear the gunshots is ludicrous.
IMO of course.
If the APCs for the crimes were all that we had to go on, the story timelines are plausible.
But the telltale hearts talked and talked and talked. And recorded. And published. And promoted on social media. All they had to do was shut up, but no, Amanda's murder had to be repackaged into "Something Beautiful for Davey". Some sheep may be gullible, but not the whole world.
All they had to do was shut up.
https://indystar.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indystar.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2018%2F07%2F15%2Fcurtis-hill-indiana-attorney-general-courts-republican-social-conservatives-groping%2F782077002%2F
Phil Byars in the news.
Trudy @ 11:16 PM said:
"The reason Jalen and Diano were able to plead down from murder to serious injury is because they were there when Larry hit Amanda in the mouth with his gun and stole her bank card. "
Not according to the APC. The APC doesn't place them together. They were able to plead down because the prosecutor obviously does not have the evidence or the "solidly built case" or whatever bs line he used, to convict Larry Taylor.
“If you can accept that Larry broke into a woman's house and raped her multiple times, while she was naked, face down, with a gun to the back of her head, I'm not sure why there is such a disconnect that makes it impossible for you to believe he shot Amanda”
Because they have DNA in one case but not the other.
“Larrys co accused (who pleaded GUILTY) are lying”
Yes, they are. And they have good reason to lie – to get a plea deal for a lighter sentence and to protect their gangbanger friends.
“the ear witness is lying and intends to commit perjury under oath”
Let's wait and see if her testimony hasn't changed once she is forced to take the stand.
“To say that the earwitnesses is lying and has been told to lie (by police) because you don't think she "should" have been able to hear the gunshots is ludicrous. “
Nobody said police told her to lie. She could be friends with Davey, Kristi or the thugs. She could have been given financial incentive to “remember” hearing shots that no one else heard, even though the neighbors we all awake.
“the surveillance tape is too blurry”
The only stills LE provided are grainy pics of the back of a guy. Totally unrecognizable.
“I'm not sure why you think the police don't have evidence on Larry beyond what was contained in the APC”
We would have heard about it by now and the prosecutor would not have been forced to give sweet deals to two violent criminal gang members that were on parole (and had only been out of prison for 2 months - Jalen, and 1 month - Diano) when the burglaries and murder took place.
Speaking of Natasha Jones tank, there actually may be a connection to the fourth suspect in the murder, Darnell Gilbert, via his FB page. He's FB friends with someone named Brittany Green that lives in Indy, and NJT has a daughter named Brittany Green that lives in Indy. The spelling of "Brittany" is the same for both.
Bobcat wrote
But the telltale hearts talked and talked and talked. And recorded. And published. And promoted on social media. All they had to do was shut up, but no, Amanda's murder had to be repackaged into "Something Beautiful for Davey". Some sheep may be gullible, but not the whole world.
All they had to do was shut up.
If only. But they didn't shut up.
And because they - and because Davey in particular - didn't shut up and just grieve quietly and fade into the background, it kept the case out in the forefront - in the open.
More importantly, the nonstop appearances and blog posts gave the chance over and over for a band of individuals to realize that things were in no way what Davey wanted to make them seem they were - - to compare details, to find such obvious inconsistencies in statements, to transcribe videos for comparison to other videos and to put it all together into a package to be distributed to investigators, detectives, news media, reporters.
Davey is going to be rethinking this for years. He would almost have to be rethinking it right now, or he should be.
His carefully-plotted, meticulously orchestrated plan probably would have worked if he hadn't ruined it with his wide-eyed innocent attempts to repeatedly convince his audiences that
(1) he had no idea anyone had been in his house
(2) he had no idea there were bullets
(3) he honestly thought something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy, that they had just lost the baby
This crime was not random. It showed careful preparation to the nth degree. But Davey's finding Amanda still breathing when he walked in from the gym was a major snag- to put it mildly.
Back up to 8:22am on November 10, 2015 -which was the first time that Davey had to actually TALK to someone on the fly about what he saw when he walked in - not having a prepared, already-written-out and carefully worded statement to fit that certain scene.
THAT was when what was supposed to be such a beautiful quilt all started to unravel. Nobody believes any of the three statements above. The general public doesn't believe it, Amanda's family doesn't believe it, Detective Perkins didn't believe it.
One more time Davey - I'll shout it to you - THE HOME INVASION STORY WOULD HAVE WORKED ! - all you had to do was to say that these vicious bastards maybe saw you leave for the gym - and they had the time and the wish to beat, assault, and shoot Amanda three times for sport - you walked in and found Amanda in the condition she was in and evidence of a struggle and everything scattered around on the floor.
There is still the issue of proving it was those certain guys in custody, their DNA matching up with whatever was found in the house or on Amanda's clothing or skin - no motive and why the anger for such an overkill extreme situation.
But reporting a home invasion and getting IMPD involved from the start (instead of IFD having to call them in and making you look like you were hiding the truth) would've been a solid start to your charmed life and might've done more to ensure your future freedom.
But to say (even once, but much less repeat it over and over and over) that you honestly had no idea anyone had been in your house - and that your first honest thought was this was a miscarriage ?
Wow I bet you wish you had a do-over on that 911 call, no? - and do-overs on those multiple (transcribed) appearances too - where even the pastors and people who were interviewing you had their hands over their mouths in disbelief listening to what you stated that you honestly thought and saw that morning.
Anonymous @ 2:01 pm. (Why Anonymous?)Thanks for that reply. If you believe that you "would have heard about" all of LEs evidence against Larry Taylor and that the prosecution was "forced" to give Larry's coaccused a plea deal, I don't know what to tell you except that you are wrong. Why "would" you have heard about it? Seriously. Why should police tell you anything (much less everything) about this or any other murder investigation? Smh.
Were Jalen and Diano "forced" to accept the plea deal that the prosecution was "forced" to offer them? Why did Jalen and Diano accept the deal, if they're innocent, and the case against them is so weak? Think about it. They agreed to plead guilty because there is evidence against them that could convict them of felony murder. Right? Where do you think that evidence comes from? Was it fabricated?
I am amazed that you think the prosecution was "forced" to give Jalen and Diano a plea deal. And I'm even more amazed that you could claim that there is no evidence against Larry Taylor, beyond what is contained in the Affidavit of Probable Cause, because you "would have heard about it by now". Lmao.
DW, I'd say the 4th suspect in Amanda's murder is Alonzo B. If you have information about Darnell Gilbert and NJT which connects them in ANY way to Amanda's murder, you should let LE know as soon as you can. Lying to police during a homicide investigation is a very serious matter.
I'm just guessing, but I think part of the difficulty some people have in comprehending the Kilt Gang involvement in Amanda's murder, is the belief that Davey Blackburn is the one who pulled the trigger on Amanda. If you could set aside that belief (even just for a moment) and consider that Crazy Davey may have contracted Kilt Gang to shoot Amanda, the evidence, the murder charges and plea deals will make much more sense to you.
According to the arrest report, it was Darnell Q. Gilbert that was brought in along with the other three. And I won't be passing any info on to Indy LE. They seem to have already closed the case. Any info I get will be sent to the defense attorneys. It seems the only way to have any focus on DB and I truly believe he orchestrated the hit (along with KB).
You do whatever you think is right, DW. I think DB orchestrated the hit, too. Alonzo Bull was also brought in for questioning by police. He said it was "embarrassing".
"Did they take any evidence?"
Probably.
https://www.wthr.com/article/police-serve-search-warrant-at-northeast-indianapolis-apartment
They did take evidence from Alonzo and Donae's. Donae gave them a gun which she said was left by either Jalen or Diano and Alonzo's clothing that was said to be worn by Larry and Jalen the morning of the murder.
The media led the public to believe Amanda was brutally raped/sexually assaulted as well. Many media outlets ran with the blaring headlines, without even having the "evidence" or so it seemed. Law enforcement "sources" were confirming to the news stations that indeed, Amanda was sexually assaulted.
"Police say Blackburn was shot in the head during a home robbery, which detectives later linked to another nearby home break-in. Sources confirmed to the station that Blackburn was sexually assaulted in the attack." https://cbsnews.com/news/3-questioned-in-murder-of-indiana-pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn/
They were very certain Amanda was raped and I don't think it was just a "hunch" they went off of, they wouldn't be confirming to media outlets this information based on flimsy evidence, observations based on that region of the body can lead a person to believe a sexual assault may have occurred. This will be brought up in court, because if LT's dna was not found in/on Amanda Blackburn - and they were so certain of it that they leaked it to the press, whose dna was it? Were there lacerations, bruises, tears?
"Items were taken from the Blackburn home, another home that was burglarized on the same street and from a stolen SUV used in the get-away vehicle. "They will swab the steering wheel, or the gear shift, or places they know the person who stole the car touched," said Paul Minser, with Indiana State Police who works with forensics." https://wishtv.com/news/crime-watch-8/detectives-are-hoping-dna-leads-to-the-amanda-blackburn-killer/1115151021
Two stolen vehicles, one apartment, two homes, countless surveillance camera's, eye-witnesses, ear-witnesses, search warrants, dna extractions, ghost media, "evidence" galore.
LE that states profoundly that they worked around the clock, skipping meals and sleep and 2.8 years worth of time to build a solid case, yet here we are, still waiting and debating over whether the last man standing for the crime is actually a monstrous killer, a hired hitman or an 18 yo punk who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, possibly set up himself.
All this solid "evidence" is sure taking a very long time to come out, not one leak about anything, other than to offer up plea deals when the original statements were about "comin' to gitcha" and "this will not be tolerated". No need for worthless testimonies when this much evidence is compiled.
I guess the focus has changed now, justice for Curtis Hill! Amanda who? Pass the salt.
This is a total side note but Davey posted an instastory of Weston in his room yesterday. The big picture of Amanda holding Weston that was in Weston's room for the "I Rise" video has been taken down. It has been replaced with a big clock. And in his instastory, he talks about Mommy (Kristi) to Weston. Amanda has been erased.
OH PLEASE ! - I just watched the instastory Bingo -
So it looks like Weston is actually going to get a birthday party after all, according to Davey ?
What happened to "we are only celebrating *milestone* birthdays ?
Maybe Davey noticed enough people pointing out just how cruel that would be for a child Weston's age to see his stepsister get a huge party for her fifth birthday but he gets nothing, nada, zilch - even though he had a birthday party every year up until Davey and Kristi got married ? That would be hard to understand for Weston - and impossible to understand for me.
It's not like the money is an issue. So was the reason for (initially) not having a party for Weston's fourth b-day to keep the Byars family up in Elkhart and away from Weston ? - nothing's happening in Indy for Weston's b-day this year, so ya'll just stay up there in Elkhart now, ya hear ?
I can see how it would be awkward that Amanda has lifted right out, yet Davey and Kristi would be having to interact with Amanda's family and act like they haven't wiped her away from their life and thoughts.
Guys, you know Amanda is still Weston's mom and she will always will be part of your lives as long as HE is. And he TOTALLY has Amanda's smile and that is awesome.
And Davey just had to point out (verbally and in text on the screen) that "Weston doesn't understand the point of the game". Weston and Natalia were so sweet playing together - I don't think either of them cared about rules at that point.
God how I hope Weston doesn't play baseball. He'll hit two home runs in a game - the second one to win the game for his team in the bottom of the ninth inning - - and Davey will just HAVE to point out and remind him that he got thrown out at third trying for a triple in the second inning.
Cherry Biometrics declined to take Larry's case.
The reasons WHY they declined will be kept under seal by the defense attorney.
Any guesses?
Outside pressure?
Threats?
I don't think it was Cherry Biometrics. The judge asked Larry'a defense attorney to find a local cell phone expert and it appears they declined.
And the reason they declined in not under seal. Larry now has to write a response as to why he actually needs a cell phone expert and this is what is going to be put under seal.
From Chatzy, found out that there is a cell phone data expert in Indy but he won't take criminal cases (only civil) because he is a detective with an Indiana PD and it would be a conflict of interest.
This might be the wrong place to post this but after reading these post and thinking about what transpired I have a new theory of what went down that night. Just indulge my 48 Hours, Dateline mindset. Davey just hates Weston. It seems to be clear from how he talked about him from early on. I am thinking Davey killed Amanda but paid the group to kill Weston to totally free himself. I think he wanted to start over. This is why he didn't go up and check on him,he didn't want to see what was up there. Just my thoughts. I think that the intruders couldn't, in the end, do what they were actually there for.
There are many others that think the same thing, triggerua. Davey just can't stop belittling Weston, even to this day.
triggerua, if Davey wanted to be the next Levi Lusko. . .
. . . or because Davey wanted to be the next Levi Lusko (we know he did, he was obsessed that guy and still is. . . )
What better way than to lose a wife AND a child/son (and an unborn child to boot!)
SO many people are pointing out how much Weston reminds them of Amanda, how much he looks like Amanda, his eyes and his smile - it has to just kill Davey to hear it over and over. I love it. Amanda will be ever-present in Davey's world forever because of Weston. . unless something tragic happens to Weston.
Davey has already prepared his heart for tragedy happening again - he has already said it. About being afraid to be too comfortable with life because something else bad could happen. . .but if tragedy did strike again, God would make good come from it. That is a rough translation but it was chilling to read and consider.
And his extreme hate for Weston is so obvious and apparent - he cannot hide it. And he started picking on Kristi on Sunday, talking onstage about how he ate such perfectly clean food when he and Kristi were at Chick-Fil-A the first time they went ou (oh yeah they were just letting their kids hang out together, IT WAS NOT A DATE - he made sure to emphasize that) - and she ordered fried chicken fingers and fries and sweet tea and then she mixed ketchup and mayonnaise together "to dip everything in it".
This is definitely a good place to post your line of thinking. More please.
obsessed WITH that guy, and still is, re Davey and Levi Lusko.
Poor Amanda having to be force-fed Levi Lusko to the point that they were in tears on the train on they way to Chicago for what was supposed to be a romantic weekend away together. Could she have looked any more miserable in those three train station videos? ?
No, she couldn't have.
Larry filed several motions to exclude evidence and witnesses as well as a motion to separate witnesses so they can't hear each others' testimony in court. Finally looks like a trial may be on the horizon. 911 call, anybody?
Yes yes 911 call please !
About staging of crime scenes/burglaries, apparently some investigators laugh when they see it (they definitely know they aren't on the scene of a burglary)
https://www.quora.com/How-do-police-officers-and-investigators-know-that-a-crime-scene-is-not-staged-Are-there-things-they-look-out-for
I still want to know why Davey didn't tell the 911 dispatcher that there was evidence of a home invasion.
Seriously, there was a decorative ladder and a lamp turned over (Davey wrote in his "out of body experience from the stairway landing" that he actually saw the lamp or was it the ladder - lying beside Amanda's body even though she was still alive at that point) - earpods and credit cards scattered around - Swisher sweets package on kitchen counter - her shirt pulled up and underwear off. . .
and he was taking mental snapshots of what was out of place so he could tell investigators later - why'd he think there would be investigators for a miscarriage or if Amanda was hanging something and got lightheaded and fell (as he speculated/told Robin Byars) ?
If Davey is what he appears to be, which is a lying liar that lies - it's going to come out in the 911 call.
I bet those detectives had Davey pegged from the very start of this - just as so many other random people around the world did.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J7hkJDrXfnc <----- Unbelievable, especially the ending. Poor Amanda, I've never seen anyone in life who had such little support when being surrounded by countless religious organizations. Doesn't mention one word that 2 of the 3 took plea deals and the "shooter" still awaits trial, instead he speaks of forgiving them and bringing them to salvation. And for the grand finale? Of course Kristi and the kids come out, his latest hook. If he can't draw a crowd almost 3 years later, he might as well go to what he knows best, using wife #2 and kids for sympathy votes.
Keep throwing that spaghetti at the wall Davey, something is bound to stick, Lord knows you've had more time than anyone on this planet to gain a following, yet you fail miserably, year after year after year.
At :53 into the video Kate linked above, Davey says this -
Uh, just to echo Josiah, November of 2015 I walked in to find my beautiful wife of seven years, um, murdered on our living room floor.
To recap some analysis by Peter and others from before -
Davey from the beginning has said "I walked in to find" (instead of "I walked in and found" - or - "I walked in and saw". . . )
And there is a difference.
Doesn't Statement Analysis indicate that Davey's split-second choice of words of "walked in to find" - or "came home from the gym to find" when he retells the story - means that Davey was walking in / coming home from the gym EXPECTING TO FIND Amanda murdered ?
Oh, and Davey, you said in this appearance that you "walked in to find your beautiful wife of seven years, um, murdered" - but she wasn't murdered when you walked in to find her.
She wasn't dead. You pointed out yourself (in yet another slip) that she was "still breathing" when you found her - as in, you were expecting her not to be.
So she wasn't murdered. She was assaulted, beaten, bruised, teeth knocked out, shot three times, partially undressed - - but she was not murdered when you walked in and found her.
Why did you change up your story from walking in to find her lying on the floor. . . in a pool of blood. . . .(looking around for a reaction) . . . having no idea anyone had been in your house. .. that your first honest thought was that Amanda had a miscarriage and if you just got her to the hospital then she'd be ok, please Jesus please Jesus no Jesus. . .
ALL of your appearances in 2015, 2016, 2017 contained some or all of those statements - they've been transcribed word for word, the videos are archived. Why did you skip all of the buildup and the story and go straight to walking in to find her um, murdered - in this one ?
It must've been hard to keep straight - or did you know that story wasn't working and didn't want to chance repeating it again - for fear that someone would put two and two together and realize that there's no way you thought what you SAY you honestly saw and thought.
SO much easier just to say you found her murdered and then skip ahead to how great of a story God has written, the master storyteller crafted such a cool story for you and Kristi and Weston and Natalia and gave you hope and all things have worked together for good . . .
. . . even though she was still alive, still breathing - well it is certainly less stories to keep straight and a way to avoid your words trapping you more than they already have.
But weren't you actually thinking that you would walk in to find her murdered on your living room floor? Is that what you hoped you would find, what you thought you would find?
I will always believe that you walked in from the gym expecting that the coroner would be rolling up to pick up Amanda's body.
Hence the reason for the botched 911 call - and subsequent need to explain for going on three years now that you had no idea anyone had been in your house - - to cover why you did NOT report a crime scene / home invasion to 911 dispatcher.
Also to Davey - if you walked in to find your beautiful wife of seven years MURDERED, then wouldn't page 14 of the Affidavit of Probable Cause indicate that you reported a crime scene and not just "he found his wife, Amanda Blackburn, injured and unconscious on the living room floor" of your home?
And pages 14 and 15 of the APC linked below completely discredit (to say the least) your repeated statements of "I honestly had no idea anyone had been in my house" and "my first honest thought was that something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy". NOBODY believes you walked into that scene on that morning and thought (honestly or not) either of things.
I would love to know what the detectives were saying about you behind your back that morning. . . the crime scene was so obviously staged - and seasoned detectives would recognize that in a heartbeat.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/291143533/Affidavit-of-Probable-Cause-in-Amanda-Blackburn-Case
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216484471246066&set=pcb.10216484408604500&type=3&theater
See the pictures on Amber's Facebook page of Amanda's 31st b-day celebration where the family got together and released balloons into the sky with notes to Amanda written on them. . .
But her gravestone is trashed - is it black algae growing on it, encircling the words Nothing is Wasted - and splotches around the names and dates ?
The condition of the gravestone speaks to the care and respect that the family has for the dead.
Seriously Davey and Kristi, the Byars family, the Wilkinson family, Mamaw -
maybe instead of (or along with) tying balloons to the stone and taking a picture to "honor" Amanda, someone among you could have taken the time to clean off the black spots ? - and get rid of whatever is growing in the engraved line around the NIW words.
Although the shaggy black stuff does emphasize the words Nothing Is Wasted - which has been the #hashtag from the very beginning -
"Nothing is Wasted" was tweeted at the Traders Point service - it was the first song that randomly (uh huh) came on Pandora radio when they fired it up around Amanda's bedside in the ICU - Davey's new 5100+ square foot / 5 bedroom 4.5 bathroom house with pool is titled under the name of NIW Serendipity LLC - and it is part of Kristi's Instagram identity too.
OK back to the appearance of Amanda's gravestone - where her name and the dates are marred by the black stuff too -
My grandparents' (Mom's parents') gravestone doesn't look like that - and they died in 1972 and 1980 ! - this stone is less than three years old and it looks like it has been there for decades.
Here's hoping someone in that loving extended family (with many perfectionists among them) realized, or will realize after looking at the picture, that it disrespects Amanda and her unborn child and makes it look like the family doesn't care. All of the Facebook and Instagram posts about remembering the day - actions speak louder than words.
I understand it's not as glamorous as being seen on camera/in video overhauling and cleaning a single mom's house, giving her a spa day, taking her to Chipotle, detailing her car - but it's the right thing to do.
If you want to keep the NOTHING IS WASTED (now forever known as your marketing brand name associated with Amanda's murder) emphasized like it is, at least clean off the rest of the gravestone and make it where you can read her name and the dates.
If I lived in indy I would do it myself.
I still want to know what happened when the life insurance policy was originally bought, what amount of life insurance he had on Amanda, whether it was later changed to make the payout bigger and whether Davey has a similar policy on Kristi
Old crazydaysandnights blind item
In this worldwide headline making murder case there is some new evidence that has been found which looks very damning for the thirsty celebrity husband of the wife who was killed. His story and actions have never really jibed and investigators kept digging. Apparently it was a tip though that led to a revisit of timelines and and something that happened when the huge life insurance policy was originally bought. I'm also told he went through the insurance money quickly with his new extravagant lifestyle. There are only so many books and seminars he can sell but he won't cut back on his spending.
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/07/blind-items-revealed-46.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5196073/Indiana-pastor-remarries-wife-murdered.html#reader-comments
Daily Mail UK article with pictures from December 17th discussing Davey + Kristi's wedding - engagement almost exactly two years to the day of Amanda's murder.
984 comments below the article, most of which are along the lines of this -
I think it was a hit. He had 4 years & $100,000 to make this church work. He had 120 parishioners (TOPS), think his backer wasn't about to lose that $$$ & they planned & executed (literally) the murder of Amanda. I think he knew it was going to happen, intentionally left the door unlocked, made sure he was on camera at gym for alibi, & stayed on the phone in driveway to insure she wouldn't have a chance in Hell to survive. (For someone who believes in God & miracles, he pulled that plug awfully fast!)
or this -
Pariskat, he is a suspect right now. The defense attorney's are going to go all in when Davey takes the stand. He will have to explain all of his inconsistent actions, including that he knew the gang members before the murder (he was FB friends with a few of them but quickly unfriended them after the murder when it was made public, he was a substitute teacher at their school and he went to the same gym as one of the leaders in the gang). .And then he will have to explain why he took out such a large life insurance policy on a stay-at-home mom.
And that he knew Kristi before the murder ^
Davey has been posting Instastories shaming and laughing at Weston the last few days. Yesterday he shows a video of him forcing Weston to sit at the table until he finishes one more carrot while bragging that Natalia gets to play outside. Today he laughs at Weston for wanting to ride his tricycle instead of his new birthday bike. He spends about 5 minutes laughing at him for wanting to be comfortable and uses an analogy of this to how God wants to push us out of comfort into better things in our life. God wants to trade our tricycle into a ten speed. I am sure he felt like he needed to help God along in that in his wife replacement. He laughs at and shames Weston all the way down the street.
Poor Weston as he laughed at, controlled, made to feel inadequate and constantly used as a how " not to" reference in strange preachings by his crazy father.
"This Sunday I'm pulling back the curtain and getting more real and vulnerable than I've ever been with our church. If you call @resonateindy your home or you are in a season where you're wondering if you can or should call it your home, you won't want to miss this Sunday. Please pray for me as I confess some things as well as address some things that have been on my heart for the past 2 and a half years since Amanda was killed."
~Davey Blackburn instastory https://instagram.com/daveyblackburn/
"If you call @resonateindy your home or you are in a season where you're wondering if you can or should call it your home, you won't want to miss this Sunday."
The "can" is interesting.
Just a few observations:
1. September 20, 2016- Davey rents offices for the Resonate staff, yet they have no building of their own.
2. October 2017-Davey bought a rental property to flip because he's passionate about the poor and he and Kristi have it on their hearts to minister to the poor. After all, Amanda restored furniture and would have loved to do this, and Davey and Kristi were agreeing with with Amanda by doing this (that's actually what he said here https://www.daveyblackburn.com/blog/we-flipped-a-house). It takes him quite a few words to explain himself.
3. December 18 2017- Davey adds a wife, a second child, and a second income to his household.
4. Early Spring 2017- Davey hires an Executive Pastor; Davey becomes the “Lead Pastor”
5. June 17, 2018- Resonate moves to a much smaller (cheaper?) venue with Heritage Christian School. It’s their third location in 8 years (not counting the Blackburns’ home at Sunnyfield Court). The Church has yet to break the 150-200 attendance mark (with the exception of Amanda’s “marketed” public funeral). Resonate is not growing exponentially as Davey forecasted.
6. July 23-27 2018- Instead of Resonate's 5 year strong tradition of taking their Youth Group to NewSpring FUSE's annual much-lauded Gauntlet Week at Daytona Beach, Resonate took the Youth to a camp in Illinois for the week. They had 60 Youth; In 2016 they took 49 Youth to Gauntlet- an increase of 11 youth in 2 years.
June 21, 2016- Message accompanying a tweeted picture of Gauntlet , “This is really all we think about all summer...”
Wonder how all those people who donated to help "poor single parenting Pastor Davey Blackburn and motherless Weston" feel now? He sold his Sunnyfield Court house for $145,000, bought a $355,000 house and renovated it with a designer, went on a seemingly endless round of vacations, hit the guest speaking circuit making the rounds of far more prosperous churches via networking and marketing (leaving his "staff" to do the work of keeping the church open), wrote a book about his experience in between his CrossFit training sessions, enrolled Weston in a pricey private school, bought a rental property (October 2017), got married (adding another child to family and a second income),and hired an Executive Pastor (Spring 2018). Resonate Church has had less than 150-200 attendees on any Sunday (other than Amanda Blackburn's funeral service) for 6 years now.
For what it's worth:
If you wondered who's likely financially backing Resonate:
Resonate Church’s Articles of Incorporation, Section 8.05: Discipline and Removal of the Lead Pastor
Item e- Failure to abide by the policies and procedures of NewSpring Church as listed in the policies and procedures manual.”
Item f-Resignation
Article 9 Succession
9.01 General authority to select a new lead pastor: Should the Church need a new Lead Pastor, two methods are provided for the selection of a new Lead Pastor. One method involves the participation of the departing Pastor. One method does not.
9.02 Selection process with the participation of the departing Pastor. If the Lead Pastor is in good standing with the Church and is removing himself because of retirement or relocation, the following is the selection process:
The Lead Pastor may choose up to two candidates. The first candidate is to speak in three or more primary Church services. then the Lead Pastor is to formally recommend this candidate to the Board of Overseers. The meeting is to be announced in the primary services of the Church and held at least 8 days, but not more than fourteen days later. The Board of Overseers shall conduct a vote, and with a minimum 2/3 vote, the candidate will be accepted.
Davey's podium has seen quite a bit of traffic 2017-2018.
Fools, have you heard his latest sermon? Let me give you the gist: He basically told his congregation and leadership that while, he, Sir Davey shot to fame after his interview at New Spring, the crappy members and leaders of Resonate did not step up and help grow the church. He went on to say that with his newfound fame, he traveled with the utmost integrity to spread the Kingdom, while the Resonate members and leadership did nothing but depend on him to also carry them. Because he was out doing greater things for the Lord, nothing was done to grow Resonate. (Side note: Davey has had maybe 5-6 speaking engagements in the last 2 years including an RV show, funeral parlor, pancake breakfast and few churches of a best friend and a babysitter) So, Davey basically threw his church under the bus, blaming them almost exclusively for Resonate's glaring failure because he was out trying to do important things, while in reality, out of the last 104 plus weeks, he has had 5-6 places to be, most of them being local, done during the week. He continued to tell his church that he will not be available for them any longer. He is a big number's guy. If his church wants support and help, they need to form small groups.
He also threw in the ever popular, God killed Amanda because our church was too comfortable but still the lazy members of Resonate have done nothing. He finished the sermon with what almost sounded like a resignation. He basically said he will be the only one preaching, it is going to be more of a team-lead church. He will not be the face of Resonate anymore, etc.
My thoughts, Davey for some reason thinks he is better, bigger and more important than all of the world. Failure is always someone else's fault. Amanda was to blame the first time because she thought too small and liked her comfortable, little life. Now, 8 years of Davey trying to get this church off the ground and it is still almost as small as when it started. So, now it is the member's fault and that is going to be his story as he moves ahead. He thinks if he tells people what he wants them to hear, it becomes fact. Reality still is that Davey has almost no speaking engagements, his book has been shelved, his podcast is mediocre but has a pulse because people want to go on to promote themselves and their own thriving ministries (as Davey peers from the outside of fame) but he still sees himself as a big shot that only fails because of others. I think he and Kristi are working on something bigger and better (in Davey's mind) and they will eventually leave Resonate behind saying they couldn't keep it running alone with their big, busy, important lives. I think if he finally does leave, Resonate might have a chance of survival. If he stays, no way.
On above, I meant he will NOT be the only one preaching anymore
Bingo,
I haven't seen an update on creepy Davey's life lately. I'm not surprised to see that he has just become more full of himself. Maybe Peter will listen to those words and comment.
Isn't the new wife about to become a Physician's Assistant? Not sure about that but, if so, she will make enough to support Davey and he can go on being a grifter. I don't expect that book to ever see bookshelves, do you?
All so sad.
Concerned
DAVEY is outrageous. He needs to check into an asylum. He has let everyone know he's tired of their failures, and I'm convinced he will move away, but keep his podcast, and let Kristy foot the bills. Wonder exactly what he will be doing, build houses, redecorate, change the story and go for the megachurch with new backing? He's talking to a room full of youth, that's why he gets away with saying this stuff. I wonder how many staff will leave, now that they know what he really thinks! Remember the first Christmas when he was still in love with "his baby" And wouldn't LET anyone do anything, except cater to him? What were they supposed to do while he bought things, took advantage of everyone's "love offerings" and wined and dined Kristi right up to his big fat wedding? He lives in a different reality than the rest of the peons.
Sirensong, you nailed it!
Concerned, so good to see you back!
Today, Resonate is doing a big volunteer rally and lunch. Davey's pants keep getting tighter. I am convinced that today he painted them on his body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxjtNS0jTIA
It"s the same old story, milkshake contests, mercy cakes, swords, Braveheart, continuing to beg for validation, "c'mon sombawdy", walking into his worst nightmare, etc.. Not an authentic word out of him. You would think after close to 3 years he would include other stories, different memories of Amanda, perhaps other biblical lessons, yet he does the exact same "sermon" for every audience, doesn't matter age group, location, belief, he just presses the repeat button and off he goes. Unfortunate that Weston has to listen to the exact same story of how Davey walked in on his worst nightmare, but I suppose it is Davey's intention to have it embedded in Weston's head so he questions nothing in the future.
https://fox59.com/2018/08/09/marion-county-prosecutors-office-struggles-to-overcome-murder-case-setbacks/
Terry Curry & company are not looking the greatest these days.
Kate,
He also recycles the story about how they made an offer on the first home they saw and the seller's real estate agent said they wouldn't even entertain their offer, as they had four better offers. The asking price was $134,900. They bought the house on jan 4, 2012 for $130,000. The house had been on the market since Sept 1, 2011. Btw, Davey was going to have to fork over Semi-Annual Property Tax Amount: $1,121 in November or Dec, and we know they were so broke they couldn't afford to get their cars fixed.
And the house didn't appear to have a security system installed before Davey and Amanda bought it. At least it wasn't listed in the amenities section
https://www.redfin.com/IN/Indianapolis/2812-Sunnyfield-Ct-46228/home/60107031/mibor-21140377
Good point DW. The financials have to be reviewed and brought up in court. How Davey even qualified for a mortgage loan is unusual, no matter how large his down payment was. He had not established the church, both were unemployed and new to the area. Pastoral loans seem to be more difficult to get and definitely a brand new Pastor who only had a youth pastor history under his belt was a bit risky for any financial institution, unless he had backing. He had Perry's $100,000, but I believe that was to be used for the "church". Were the medical bills piling up? All bills? Mortgage payments falling behind? How much financial debt was he strapped with at the time of Amanda's murder? How could he not be strapped, is the better question.
Also, if the news outlets reported it correctly, the neighborhood crime scene, including Amanda's home was cleared in under ten hours. If true, I hope the defense focuses heavily on that and all the other apparent expedited factors that came into play with Amanda's murder, including the world record for clearing a husband as fast as Davey was cleared.
Agreed, Kate. The fact that Davey had his bathroom remodeled despite the fact that it was remodeled when he bough the house 3 years prior and Phil saying the attack started in the bedroom should be a focus of the defense as well (along with all of the other red flags). If Amanda was in the bedroom when first attacked, it doesn't match with prosecution's theory of Larry and the others letting Jacola live because she was asleep in her bedroom, while beating and killing Amanda.
THIS----
From Kate:"Also, if the news outlets reported it correctly, the neighborhood crime scene, including Amanda's home was cleared in under ten hours. If true, I hope the defense focuses heavily on that and all the other apparent expedited factors that came into play with Amanda's murder, including the world record for clearing a husband as fast as Davey was cleared."
AND they didn't even have a suspect in custody. It almost appears to me that the IMPD were told to look the other way. Nothing to see here...nothing to see. Hubby at the gym, he is off our list. Very odd. Then let him clean the house and all the evidence with it! The NEXT day! The defense could easily form reasonable doubt just on the shotty police work.
Did you guys see the case where the hubby killed his pregnant wife and 2 children? Who do you ALWAYS look at first in the death of a pregnant woman?? The spouse! You interrogate the heck out of the husband just like the police did on this Colorado guy and you get a confession. You also spend days in the house, scraping up all evidence like the police did on this case. Now this sociopath is in prison unlike Davey who was out doing media, getting headshots, buying new houses and cars the following weeks of his beautiful wife's murder.
None of it matches DW, for instance why beat and shoot her, if you don't even get your "usual" reward of sexual satisfaction? Initially LE, an "unconfirmed high up" source, stated Amanda was sexually assaulted, lo and behold they didn't even have enough to keep that charge standing - but it sure made for good press. The bathroom could be big as well, along with the staircase. Any evidence collected the day after, I imagine, would be inadmissible in a court of law due to the cleaning crew arriving so quickly, among all the other traffic.
Bingo, Chris Watt's reminded me of Davey's style in his news appearance, before admitting guilt - the arrogance, the acting, the bewilderment, cockiness, unable to hide the grin. Knowing what we know now, it is mind numbing to hear him speak and act as if he had no idea where they were. He believed he was fooling everyone, what a con artist. Once again we have a 15 week pregnant Mom who was disposed of, along with her kids, like garbage. The police deserve an award for getting his confession right off the bat, they showed how it is done. They caught a serial killer at the end of the day.
His recent sermon included the pitfalls of allowing a personality cult to form round the pastor, so that everything depended upon him. I don't think there's much likelihood of a personality cult forming round Davey - he maybe is finally acknowledging to himself that he's just no match for Perry Noble. Life's strange - what's Perry got about him that Davey hasn't? There must be something.
I also thought he was laying the groundwork for leaving Resonate - he's 'humbly' letting his followers know it is their fault for being too dependent on him, despite he was hardly there for much of the time, and for not doing a better job of bringing in more devotees to his (non) personality cult, otherwise known as Resonate, or "my church", when it suited him. He's talking his way out of Amanda's claimed wish that if anything happened to her, he should stay in Indy and grow Resonate. Life goes on, and it was never a good idea to try to build a 'ministry' on finding Amanda face down in a pool of blood. I reckon as soon as he's able, and whatever outstanding obligations he might have in regard to Resonate are fulfilled, that he'll be on his way - unless, by any chance, Resonate does take off as a result of having different people preaching. It sounds to me like he wants it to be less about him so he can more easily extricate himself and Kirsty from the hellhole 'church' he created. He'll have to abandon the narrative, which will show it for what it is. Maybe God will visit him In the shower with a new set of questions, or something.
Larry has depos scheduled for Thursday p.m.
And the Wesleyan Kings have circled up.
Depos scheduled for today, cancelled today, by Judicial Action.
^Next court date scheduled for 9/28/2018, likely that won't happen either. They don't know wtf to do with this case. It's very unfortunate Amanda doesn't have the backing like so many other victims do/did. I wish Amanda came from a family like Mollie Tibbetts's family, things would have turned out so very different and at least there would have been some justice for Amanda. As it stands, this is turning out to be nothing more than a joke of a circus, what a shame for Amanda and her unborn baby.
Kate, I so agree. What is up with her family? They have to know that Davey was up to his hair-gelled poof and shaved head in this murder.
Just like you must have someone in the hospital room with your loved one 24-7 to make sure they are actually cared for, you also must have family fighting for justice for the victim. This IS a circus now. Watching real grief and care from families this week in the Watts and Tibbett's case, makes me that much more baffled at Amanda's family. Here we are at the 3 year mark and still no justice. When Amber promoted Davey's book a few months ago, I knew any last chance of a family to fight for her was over. Davey makes fun of Amanda in the book and encourages husbands to take huge life insurance out on their wives and calls it good, smart business. Amber promotes the book. There is not much hope anyone close to her will ever step up.
Good points Bingo and speaking of that 24-7 care, I wonder - if this case ever makes it to trial - if the defense would bring up the parade they brought into Amanda's hospital room, prior to any test results coming back. According to friends, family, neighbors and others, it was crazy in that hospital for 24 hours, into the hallways, medical staff text messaging about the patients status, praying with Doctor's and investigator's, playing music etc. What do the expert's have to say about the level of care Amanda received while there? If I'm in ICU and it's not looking good, do I really want neighbor's and random people coming in to say goodbye to me? What was the medical protocol followed that day and why were so many exceptions made when they didn't even have the test results back by then? People of faith? It seems the only prayers made that day were to revive the church and to lift Davey up in all his glory. There is a reason Davey hit the pavement to SC immediately following Amanda's murder and it wasn't to go be with his old church, how much sense did that make?
When you see a father defend and fight harder for a member in his church - Curtis Hill), than his own daughter, it's very disturbing and sad. But, when you take into consideration that this is the same man who told his congregation to give more, to not stop giving money just because they were able to clear their church mortgage title completely this month, with donations exceeding $340,000, it becomes clear their driving factor is all about the money. Despite their generous giving by the congregation and complete strangers, their goal being cleared by an additional twenty five grand, still no memorial for Amanda that they had talked about early on and had asked for donations via church members and the media.
I believe Davey was the son Phil always wanted. He loved having Davey follow him around, asking for advice, asking for scripture to learn, opinions, someone looking up to him, stroking his ego on a regular basis. Davey out manipulated Phil at his own game. A father in law who let's his son-in-law speak about his daughter the way Davey spoke about Amanda was a huge indicator of what was to follow. Davey didn't just rip on Amanda once in a while, he did it on a regular basis and not one family member thought twice about it?
That entire family forgets in about dozen years, Weston will be looking into all of this, wondering why not one single family member fought for his Mom. Not one family member demanded justice for his Mom. Even if you go with the scenario that the 3 suspects were completely guilty of this crime, still no justice. He will see the chump change reward poster of a piddly $1,000 being offered for info on his Mom's murder. He will see not one of them lifted a finger to do a thing for Amanda. He will see the absolute disgusting obituary they left "honoring" Amanda. He will see even after her death, how Davey ridiculed and mocked her and only went on to continue ridiculing Weston at 3 years old because he wasn't potty trained to Davey's standards. He will see all this and more and if they couldn't bring themselves to do it for Amanda, they should have at least realized what they were doing to Weston. Shame on all of them, the entire lot.
I agree Bingo and Kate. I have been following this case since day one and I am amazed Amanda's family isn't hooting and hollering for the court system to get this case over with. Three years and still no justice for Amanda. Looks like I predicted correctly that there will be no trial this year. Not that anyone cares...
I am amazed Amanda's family seems to be OK with the two plea deals, where murder was taken off the table for two of the defendants. Now all that is left is Larry's case, which will be dragged out probably for another 2-3 years, considering he is pro se and the judge is known for having a messy office and letting cases drag out (I am guessing because of his incompetence). Again, not that anyone cares...
If I was Amanda's sister, I would be front and center at every legal hearing asking why court cases are constantly being canceled and dragged out. I would be asking why Amanda will never have justice. I would be asking why two defendants got murder taken off the table. I would be going to the media consistently and holding the judge's feet to the fire to get the murder case against Larry on the calendar.
But that is just me. I am a paralegal I know how the "justice" system works, and it is as slow as molasses with incompetent egotists running the show.
Kate,
How do you know Phil had his church mortgage paid off? And have they even broken ground for the park that was supposed to honor Amanda, or was that just another money grab?
smh
A few minutes into his service Phil breaks it down, https://vimeo.com/284732402 - in under 3 months, if I recall correctly, they had met their goal, (exceeded it actually, collected $342,000) and cleared the mortgage, along with many other programs of theirs that were heavily donated to. No mention of the park for Amanda, I don't believe it was listed. When telling his congregation to keep on giving, no mention of the park there either. Phil was off last week and I think this week as well. They also had a celebration on the church grounds, I believe you can find that on their instagram or facebook.
Davey's dad, Pastor Dave Blackburn of Next Church has discontinued his recorded weekly sermon on his website. He has not put a sermon up since July 22, 2018. He gives no reason for the discontinued online sermons.
Anonymous - I agree and it's so tragic that Amanda didn't even have a friend who would stand up for her, instead it's a handful of strangers who have no real connection at all. Media won't touch this story anymore but when it first broke, there wasn't a news station that didn't carry it, they were all over it. The original thought was that the Byars were staying quiet and supporting Davey in order not to lose contact with Weston and to make things smooth, but 3 years later? Proves they had his back from the start and that Amanda was tortured, beaten and executed with the main driving force being the salvation of the three men, rather than any justice or protection for Amanda. Finally, as Davey surrounded himself (before and after Amanda's murder), with other men who had lost their wives, featuring them on his podcast and in his church, he became more and more confident in himself and justifying his actions/behavior after Amanda died. Jake Baird is a perfect example, check out his deceased wife's story and more importantly, her obituary. These people are cut from the same cloth and travel in packs to manipulate and validate each others stories.
Wow, Kate- good posts! It makes me angry all over again, why not Amanda's friends and family. Speaking of Weston, you are absolutely right, unless CD is sinister enough to have planned for his acceptance of what happened, by making him an insecure and confused adult by humiliating him and showing favor to his step sister. God knows what else he could be doing to Weston's psyche. He would grow up with enough problems and fear of Davey as to never question the behavior of the family. This case is heartbreaking and so frustrating. I wonder why CD'S dad quit putting his sermons online. That is interesting, as I've begun to think he has been protecting Davey in ways we don't know. All of this is my opinion only. I sure wish I knew what is going on.
^ Some people know.
^ do tell
There is a connection that hasn't been explored much, but Davey made a product placement in the story quite early on. So much that it was one of the very earliest hashtags.
Nothing Is Wasted
Elevation Church $$$$$$$
The same headline is still in use by someone VERY connected to the *swayers* in the story.
She is just one who has a "consulting" business based on thinking things up...making up stories, swaying opinion...
Seriously, why does a church need multiple storytellers on staff?
Assignment: Make Amanda's death fit into the proposed LE timeline. Praise Jeezus and do NOT call for arrest of murderers.
2nd Assignment: Make Amber's conflicting stories of 11/9/15 make sense.
3rd Assignment: Explain away Wesleyan and Kenneth Wagner leaks.
4th Assignment: Attack Davey, protect Amber. Godspeed and get a lawyer if you need one.
^ Newspring Affiliates
Circle the Wagons
^ Wesleyans
Now, who is playing both teams?
I left one out.
Indy/Mishawaka/Elkhart PD >> Clear Byars/Blackburns under stand down orders from above.
Who is playing all three teams?
Think Up Consulting has been on the story since day one.
Well, not exactly.
Newspring has been on the story since day one. Their associate now works at Think Up Consulting and appears to be a POC for all parties. Both families, Newspring, Resonate, Elevation, and The Wesleyan Church.
If there were one simple and true story, why the need for such control over it?
It's a guilty (knowledge) indicator!
Repeat Serenity Prayer... ;-)
Q: Any motive for all these churchy people to murder Amanda? A: No. The "wagon circling ", if it exists, is to protect the church's brand.
Davey Blackburn is what he is. A narcissitic sociopath who was tired of his mundane life. He saw Amanda, Weston and (especially) the new baby as an impediment to the lifestyle he wanted. He took out a large life insurance policy on Amanda and contracted Kilt Gang to murder his pregnant wife while he alibied himself with the gym and with KW.
DB is cunning and strategic. He carefully ensured at least 2 degrees of separation between himself and the contracted murderer. Maybe more. Should the foot soldier who carried out the brutal deed (JW, DG or LT) be caught, (which they were) those higher up in the kilt Gang, and Davey himself are unlikely to be implicated. He thinks he has committed the perfect crime; and maybe he has.
But I hold out hope that DB will, one day, be arrested, charged and convicted with the murder-for-hire of Amanda Grace Blackburn and her unborn child.
I don't think Davey will ever get arrested for this murder. Without any family fighting for Amanda, there is little hope for true justice. But there has been some justice done. Resonate has dwindled to less than it was before Amanda died. Davey thought she was what slowed him down. Just the opposite. I agree with Perry Noble, Amanda was the one thing that normalized Crazy Davey. She was the best thing about Resonate. The church has now moved into a smaller, cheaper venue. The worship leader has moved on. The quality of the weekly sermon video has greatly diminished even though Davey insists they have tens of thousands of online viewers. The stage set has been streamlined. Davey knows it. I think he may have finally realized he will never fill the thousands of seats he thought he would so he decided to put the blame on his staff and members for the lack of growth. Nothing bad is his fault and he thinks he is meant for greatness if it weren't for everyone getting in his way. His book will not be published as thetrials get pushed back further. Davey may have gotten away with murder, but the results he thought would come from her death, did not. The best is yet to come may not have been the smartest thing to write in his initial statement. He may eventually have to get a real job
Sirensong, you're absolutely right, it could turn out where Weston will fall in line and follow all of Davey's worldly ways, it's a crap-shoot at this point. I can't remember if it was his last podcast or the one before that, Davey is asking the guest about adoption and muttered something like they were looking into that. I'm sure it wasn't in reference to Natalia, more to do with Kristie adopting Weston, but who knows? Davey already appears to be the #1 dad for Natalia, not sure where Andres fits in and why this young child is forced to call two grown men "Daddy", but it is a sick and twisted world they live in and they forget these children WILL grow and have minds/opinions of their own. There are many, many expert opinions by professionals, moms, dads, etc. who state having a child call two men daddy or two women mommy is very confusing and can have serious, harmful effects and will mess with the child's mind, which is completely Davey's forte.
Bingo said.... "He may eventually have to get a real job" August 31, 2018 at 7:53 AM
I thought his new job was being Mr.Mom? He seems to enjoy being a housewife and running the kids around. Except for the occasional pancake house speaking engagement, he's been stepping into his new housewife role very well. Hopefully he has the dishes done and dinner on the table for Kristie when she gets home :) Davey is a kept man and an enormous disappointment to those close to him. Everything he hated about Amanda is exactly what he morphed into after her murder. I think Kristie married him and thought he was going to hit the jackpot, now that he's nothing more than Mr.Mom, it'll be a matter of time before she dumps the hot potato off on someone else. He b*tched about Amanda's debt, can you imagine the student loan debt Kristie is going to have when her education is completed? It's a sinking ship, only a matter of time.
I found these articles/video interesting, maybe some of you will too. https://wgntv.com/2018/08/15/why-high-profile-murder-cases-can-take-years-to-go-to-trial/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/us/alabama-kharon-davis-guilty.html This case finally did go to trial, after the pressure from people & media. The guy was found guilty with only circumstantial evidence, lost evidence, changed testimony that went to his favor. It is an unreal case.
This pos got away with it for 45 years. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-donnie-rudd-trial-begins-20180626-story.html
Davey's in good company and knows, he KNOWS they won't be able to come after him, he wants the delays to go on and on, it works in his favor with losing evidence, witnesses losing memory, judicial transfers, atty hiring and firing's, etc. It works for him and it works for the prosecutor's as they are dreading this case above all others, especially when Terry Curry & company assure Davey they have a solid case and justice would be served. It's a huge reminder of how bad the case was botched from the start.
"Q: Any motive for all these churchy people to murder Amanda?
A: No."
There's missing information here...
"The "wagon circling ", if it exists, is to protect the church's brand."
Anyone who saw the prayer request on Monday KNOWS that Amanda had been gravely injured on 11/9/15. They KNOW that Larry was set up.
Screw the 9th "suggestion", eh?
Larry wants to depose a C Thomas and K Pittman. I wonder who they are.
Hi Kate, interesting link, thanks. It's a shame that some trials take so long. The judicial system is far from perfect. In the case of Kahron, Davis, one of his coaccused admitted going to Pete Reaves house with the intent to rob him. The coaccused received 99 years. Kahron apologized to Reaves family for his part in Reaves murder. He's not exactly some poor innocent lamb who had nothing to do with breaking into Reaves apartment, robbing him and shooting him in head. He's a violent criminal, not a victim. (Like JW, DG and LT). The attempts by lawyers and criminals and friends and families of criminals to shift the blame from their own heinous acts, onto an embattled Justice system is pathetic, IMO. Criminals who are heartless and unfeeling enough to break into people's homes to rob, rape and murder suddenly become sniveling cowards when they are caught, and thrash around, blaming everyone, including their victims (hi Chris Watts) the police, and the judicial system. The long delays in criminal trials almost always works in favor of the accused, not the prosecution. The only one delaying Larry Taylor's trial for the murder of Amanda Blackburn is Larry Taylor. The prosecution is ready to go.
Bobcat, have you seen the Staircase? EMTs were able to gauge the time of her attack by, amongst other things, drying, dried and congealed blood on and around the victim. Is it your opinion that Indy EMTs failed to observe signs that Amanda was attacked many, hours earlier? Or that they chose to ignore it? Or covered it up? I don't know who C Thomas and K Pittman are.
Hi Trudy, it is a shame some trials can take so long. I pointed out Kahron Davis for the mere fact that he had to wait for a very long time and it wasn't all on him. 10 years seems extreme, but the point to be made was Davey is only going on year 3, we may have a long wait. As far as his guilt or innocence, I wasn't in the courtroom nor have I read a copy of the transcript, but based on numerous news outlets, the guilty verdict was based on circumstantial evidence and there were many retractions.
"The long delays in criminal trials almost always works in favor of the accused, not the prosecution." Just wondering if you have a link to the statistics that state this? Or were you more just basing that on opinion? I've tried using the search engines but I cannot find anything.
I have not seen the Staircase.
If EMTs failed to observe signs that Amanda was attacked many hours earlier, it's because the crime scene was contaminated. Amanda's gooey black blood clots (OPN) had been picked off and washed away, and she was re-staged before EMTs arrived after Davey "finally" called them. And Weston's footprints/fingerprints had been cleaned away, along with other evidence.
Hi Kate,
Defendants have the RIGHT to a speedy trial. They can DEMAND their right to a speedy trial. Quite frequently, they don't, though, on advice from their attorney. Demanding your right to a speedy trial, means that you are ready for trial and are forfeiting the benefit of being able to thoroughly and adequately prepare a defense. It's up to the defendant.
I don't know about statistics, but IMO the reasons the defense (rather than the prosecution) benefits from waiving it's right to a speedy trial is kinda obvious. If you google "reasons to waive your right to a speedy trial", I'm sure someone can provide you with a more comprehensive answer. I hope I haven't misunderstood your question. :)
Bobcat, yes. That must be it. Someone picked blood clots off Amanda. The EMTs were duped by the clean up and restaging of a fresh puddle of blood underneath her.
Good to go Trudy, thanks. I just wanted to make sure it was your opinion and not a fact just in case I was missing something. Again, my original intention was to note the long case and that Amanda's case may drag out just as long, if not longer, especially with no one advocating on her behalf.
The incongruity here is stark. She describes in great detail injuries to women, but all the Wesleyan's could muster up about what was done to Amanda was "serious head injury".
Cash grab "for women" on the other side of the planet, but what about women in Indy?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/during-daily-routine-violence-against-women-and-girls_us_5a43fbcfe4b0d86c803c7493
Lol. I must have misunderstood you. maybe I'm missing something? Many defense attorneys advise their clients to waive their rights to a speedy trial. They do it for the benefit of their clients, not for the benefits of the prosecution. It is a fact. I don't know what statistics could verify that fact for you but If the prosecution violates a person's right to a speedy trial, there are consequences.
C&P
If a convicted defendant can establish a violation of the constitutional right to a speedy trial, the court must set aside the conviction, vacate the sentence, and dismiss the charging document. (United States v. Villarreal, 613 F.3d 1344 (11th Cir. 2010).) If the case hasn’t yet gone to trial, the court must generally dismiss the charges.
So, wouldn't you agree that delaying a trial is to the benefit of the defense not the prosecution? I'd be interested to hear why you think otherwise. I suppose there is an argument to be made that some defendants are "forced" to waive their rights to a speedy trial because a public defender is overwhelmed and underprepared for trial but that's a different issue. If Larry's trial for the murder of Amanda takes as long as Kahron's, I'll go insane with frustration, but it definitely be in his favor and not a violation of his rights.
It's a shame that victims don't have rights to a speedy trial. Especially in cases where the defendant is so obviously guilty and should have copped a plea. I feel sorry for their family and friends. It must be hard to get a sense of closure. Mark Redwines trial is set for November.
Davey has a speaking engagement hosted by EdSAC at IUK on 9/18.
You will be blocked on facebook for asking about 11/9/15.
If Larry Taylor's trial does drag out for years, or even months more, what will that will mean for JW and DG's sentencing? IIRC, JW is due to be sentenced in Oct. The sentencing guidelines suggest a term of between 10-30 years. The plea deal was/is partly contingent on, or in exchange for, testimony against LT. Bearing that in mind, is the court more likely to give JW the minimum 10 years, (and hope JW sticks to his agreement to testify) or the maximum 30 years, (and then offer him a substantial reduction after testifying)?
Bobcat, I'm not surprised you were blocked. You sound a bit unhinged when you leave cryptic messages like "what really happened on the 9th November 2015?"
Who do you expect to answer? And what possible response could there be to that question? If you stated outright, "I believe Davey shot Amanda on the 9th" at least people would have a clue what you were talking about, and your opinion would be noted, before you are blocked.
I apologize if that is not the (pointless) question you asked that you were blocked for.
Interesting public comments on Amber's facebook, from Gavin's uncle, a retired jailer in Virginia.
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10216733304506742?comment_id=10216733833799974&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%2327%22%7D
Dale: Amber , I know this loss has been the worse thing to happen to your family, and believe me when I say I’m sorry, but I know it’s not gonna help much ,but did those responsible get any justice ? We live in Virginia and have not heard anything. This type of thing because of Race usually takes a long time but it’s been a long time and we would like to know was justice served or have politics been played ? It won’t ease your pain , but at least justice may keep someone else safe from these who have done this thing.
Amber: We are Stilllllllll Waiting on a trial date! It just keeps getting pushed back and pushed back! We still don’t know when it will be
Dale: I’m so sorry to hear that, prayers for you and your mom and dad and grand parents, loss is never easy , but believe me when I say we all want justice !
Amber: I know you do! And that means a lot to us! Seriously! Thank you!
Dale: 2015 November I fail to see any reason why the prosecution is still not allowed a trial, the accused can not say any rush to judgement here we are coming up on 3 years this November ! Would it be permittable for some of us to call the prosecution and demand justice? I only say this because there is no rush to judgement here .
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No follow up answer from Amber.
Thanks Bobcat. That's interesting. It looks like nobody bothered to tell uncle Dale that 2 of the 3 "who have done this thing" have pleaded guilty for their part in the murder of Amanda, and they will be safely locked away for years; while the 3rd, hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of being acquitted of the rape at gunpoint, he committed on the 3rd., thanks to the DNA he left behind. It's not exactly "Justice" for Amanda, but that POS, LT, will be locked away for many,many years, and unable to rape and murder innocent people. All 3 are behind bars, at the moment and none of them are likely to free for at least 10 years. That might give uncle Dale some comfort.
Again, the right to a speedy trial, unfortunately, does not apply to the victims and their families.
Good find, Bobcat! Interesting that Amber didn't comment on the demand justice part of the conversation. I would think they would want to know what the solidly built case actually entails. So solid that they are pleaing out the ones who used her check card? The ones who police say took something from a dead person. It is time for some answers. The whole scenario of Larry going in, getting the card, knocking out Amanda's teeth, walking back out with the card, thugs leaving to use the card, Larry coming bk in to Amanda waiting to scratch him so he kills her is not even plausible. Who gave them the cards? And what really went down that morning?
Many key members have left Resonate in recent weeks. The mass revival as a result of Amanda's sacrificial death never happened. In fact, the church is shrinking rapidly.
I wonder how CJ knows that one of the thugs was wearing "really" red pants on 11/3/15.
I wonder who was calling the shots on 11/10/15, and if Larry, while calling to be picked up from Sunnyfield, also placed a call to the Tichenors (his foster family), who then called Donae/Alonzo, who then told Diano/Jalen that they had to pick Larry up even though they didn't want to because they knew it was a dangerous setup.
CJ, where are you?
Hi Bingo, For some reason people seem to equate the guilty plea deal with the prosecution having a weak case. if the prosecution case is weak, why do you think Jalen and Diano agreed to it? Either the state's case is weak, and the prosecution was "forced" to offer a plea deal, or the case is strong so that Jalen and Diano were "forced" to accept a plea. Which is it?
There are advantages and disadvantages of plea bargaining for both the prosecution and the accused. Rest assured that prosecution and defense weighed those advantages and disadvantages carefully before either offering/accepting a plea.
Although I doubt we'll ever really know exactly what happened on the morning of the 10th, I'm hoping that the totality of the evidence presented at trial will answer a lot of questions. I just hope the trial takes place soon. Kate's example of the Kahron Davis taking 10 years to come to trial, gave me the heebs.
Bobcat, CJ knows that JW was wearing red pants on the 3rd November 2015 because she has read the APC to have LT arrested for the rape and robbery he committed on the 3rd. The red pants were described by the victim.
If LT called his foster father from Sunnyfield on the morning of the 10th Nov. 2015, I expect that his phone records would reveal that fact. (Don't let that stop you adding to the cast of thousands apparently involved in Amandas's murder.)
I wonder if LT's foster father, Tichenor, knows Kristi's step father, Lee. The both work for Marion County Prosecutors office, don't they?
You'd think that DB would know that Tichenor is a preacher. How can he not? Looks like, despite his claims, DB is going to be way too late to "kick satan in the nuts" by introducing his wife's murderer to the gospel.
Chatzy, May 23, 2018
CJ: "JW's pants no doubt stood out to her because they were bright red."
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The APC made no mention of "bright" red pants.
Yes it does.
"bright red pants" as described by the rape victim of Larry Jo Taylor in the APC.
Page 4 first paragraph (page 11 in this doc.)
https://drive.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2649018/Larry-Taylor-Jalen-Watson-Sexual-assault-Dec-2015.pdf
Ah, so it did. My mistake.
No worries, mate.
Yeah Tru, what happened to that gospel-sharing, Satan nut-kicking that Davey was going to do? He has had plenty in time to go to the jail and share with the accused.
And I agree they have plenty of evidence on Jalen and Diano including video of them using the cards. I am not convinced of how they actually got the cards yet. I don't know why they wouldn't have plenty of evidence of Larry DNA inside the house. There should be a lot of DNA with such a violent crime. Yet they had to drop murder charges against the other two guys in order to get them to squeal on Larry. And the scenario of beating her, going outside and coming back in to shoot her because she was going to scratch him makes absolutely no sense. I am like you, I hope to have some answers soon. I sure hope there is true justice for Amanda and that ALL who were apart of it (including Dave) are one day convicted. I am not sure that will ever happen.
Trudy,
OJ Simpson's attorneys wanted a speedy trial and it greatly benefited him. Many people still viewed him as a hero and didn't think he would be capable of murder. Had he waited, more incriminating info would have come out against him and he may have been convicted.
In this case, the depos that Larry is attempting to take were continued for "judicial reasons". It wasn't Larry delaying. It also appears that Larry has to get court orders to have the prosecution turn over all of their evidence.
IMO, Jalen and Diano agreed to the plea deal because the prosecutor took murder off the table and promised them they would only get a certain number of years. We know the prosecution offered them 20 years, spend 15 in prison and they turned that down. There is video and DNA evidence that would convict Jalen of murder very easily. Diano's involvement would be more difficult to prove but the prosecutor would most likely have gotten a conviction and he would have been given a harsher sentence because he is a repeat offender. There has already been an agreed amount of years for them to serve. Both of them made that clear that they weren't going to "talk" for 15 years in prison. We will see what they get in October and see if some of it is commuted for their cooperation.
And Larry is smartly making sure that Jalen and Diano can't be in the courtroom at the same time, hearing each other's testimony. The amount of time that it has taken for Larry's trial will benefit Larry in that Jalen and Diano will have trouble remembering which lies they told and most likely contradict each other and their earlier statements to LE.
And Crystal Thomas and Kenneth Pittmon are related to Larry. They were discussed at length in Chatzy. I will go back and get the info we dug up on them and post.
This is the only mention I can find, from May 28:
Res $: Rosanna Pullins, Sophia Barker. Krystal Thomas and Kenneth Pitman : does anyone recognize these names as related to this case. I found that they are important names for the case but don't recall who they are.
It was discussed in the private chat, Bobcat. We have their FB pages and their familial connections to Larry
I see. One of them is Larry's mother. I wonder how many people he called to pick him up on Sunnyfield on 11/10/15.
Not his mom. And Alonzo Bull has the same current address as Kenneth Pittmon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNwL4DyYLz4&t=12s
A recent religious perspective.
Bwahahahahaha Ha! That was gold! Thanks Kate. Burn Davey. The guy in the video wiped the floor with him. Some of the comments underneath the video were great, too. Everything from "tight tight pants, ewww" , to "I believe he had his wife murdered". Most of the regulars, here and at Chatzy, picked up Daveys latest theme months ago. He is leaving Resonate. He couldn't be more obvious. But his sermon, (which is annihilated in the video, lol) makes it seem like DB knows the writing is on the wall. He says that if the church is built around a person, (in this case, him) when something bad happens to the pastor of that church, (and gives the example of "being accused of something" ) then it collapses.
Accused of something? Well, whatever could that be? He then says that in 10 or 20 years he hopes that he'll be sitting in the front row of his church watching someone else preach. 10-20 years sounds like a long time doesn't it? Almost like a prison sentence. I just bet he hopes he's sitting in the front row of his church ... and not a cell. Davey seems to be telegraphing a dark foreseeable future for himself.
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I was very pleased to see Alonzo B's name on the list of witnesses to be deposed. Maybe this tangled web will be unravelled, after all. The statement from the CI, which basically places all the blame for all criminal acts committed on the 10th November on LT, contains a level of detail that could only be known by someone who was present at the crime scene(s). A co conspirator. That means either JW or DG. ButI have never eliminated the possibility of Alonzo being involved. Bingo, you've said that the scenario outlined by the CI is unlikely to be entirely true, particularly the part about leaving Amanda and throwing the bank cards through the car window, and I agree. JW's role and DG's role were minimized to the extreme. Especially DG's, (Which makes me think DG is likely the CI, and he was covering his own ass primarily, his mate JW secondarily, while throwing LT right under the bus); however, whoever the CI is, they said that JW entered the Blackburn house, too. It is very possible that JW/DG took Amandas Chase bank card and left Larry while they went to use it.
All three of them (5 including Alonzo and Davey) are guilty of Amandas murder. But only one pulled the trigger. The fact that the most obvious suspect, JW, was able to plead down from murder, makes me think that LE knows the shooter was Larry. (Which ties in with the evidence of phone pings, bank transactions, the ear witness, and return trip to pick up LT)
If Davey is ever to be arrested for his part in the murder, the intermediaries between him and the kilt Gang need to be identified. At this stage I don't care if they are offered immunity to testify. Alonzo being on the witness list is a giant step in the right direction. Next stop JB.
I know Alonzo was always on the witness list, but the fact that Larry wants to depose him, probably to impeach him as un unreliable witness, means that the cat has poked it's head out of the bag and might get out! Lol.
http://law.indiana.edu/instruction/tanford/b723/10impeach/T10.pdf
This coming weekend we’re shutting our church doors down and stepping outside to BE the church. Saturday September 8th we’ll be participating in an All-Church Serve Day in the neighborhood we’ve adopted - Riverside.
I told our church this past weekend that our church service isn’t being cancelled we’re just moving the church “service” to the streets. Just one more step in our efforts to bring hope to a hopeless and depressed area of our city.
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If you’d like to participate sign-up at resonateindy.com/serveday (link in bio today)
And as a reminder, we will not be having church services on September 9th
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Not surprising that crazy Davey doesn't want to preach this Sunday after the absolute caning he got from Bezel3T on YouTube.
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Re reading the APC, I noticed that the rape victims car was not recovered for almost a fortnight. (Found, in a weird coincidence on Sebring). Forensics went over that car with a fine tooth comb. I wonder if any fingerprints or DNA was recovered; and if so, whose? Wait and see, I suppose.
One more thing. LT has filed a motion to exclude evidence from Alonzo, Donae, Crystal and Kenneth.
Well, from the timing of the subpoenas for Alonzo et al, I presume it's to exclude testimony evidence. It could be a motion to exclude some other evidence like autopsy photos or something, who knows?
It will be interesting to see if LT attacks the initial claims of Amanda being raped/sexually assaulted. With Davey stating wives need to submit to their husbands as the bible states, with his self admitted sexual inappropriateness, porn blockers, etc. and the initial report of Amanda being raped/sexually assaulted, it sounds like someone did indeed sexually assault Amanda, it just wasn't Larry Taylor.
When the labs results came back, it was a real shocker as LT's dna wasn't found, not a far stretch to put the pieces together of whose dna was found. Hopefully that angle will be exposed and the rape/sexual assault evidence can be placed solely on the person whose dna was found in and on Amanda. The possible bruising, vaginal tearing and other signs of rape/assault will be under the microscope and the original statement that was blasted all over airwaves via the media will prove this original claim was false, misleading and along with so many other issues in this case, was rushed beyond excuse. My opinion.
What lab results?
Do you know from the lab results if there was mixed DNA? Was LT excluded as a contributor? Were the findings inconclusive? I haven't seen the report. It would be interesting to know what, if anything was found. If DB, and/or LT, JW, DG had sex with Amanda, the results would be mixed. It's getting better but mixed samples are notoriously difficult to analyse, especially in terms of identifying separate contributors.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3990198/
Another thing is that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There might not have been any useful DNA collected, especially if LT did not ejaculate, or used a foreign object, (as he did in the rape on the 3rd). I mention this because Larry's DNA from the rape victim on the 3rd, came from the victim's underwear, and not the object she was raped with, nor vaginal swabs etc.
Genuine question: How would it benefit LT to attack the initial claims that Amanda was sexually assaulted?
I had ended my paragraph with "My opinion", but just to be clear, that was completely my opinion based on the little we know thus far. LE sources came out from the start, stating Amanda was sexually assaulted and the press ran with it. I believe it was stated they did not have enough evidence at that time to add sexual assault charges, this was when Curry was announcing murder charges at the second presser.
I've looked for law enforcement "sources" who had initially claimed Amanda was sexually assaulted, but I can find none that are named. It is again, my opinion that the emt staff who were working on Amanda and possibly some law enforcement agents may have had a visual of Amanda's vaginal area, was it torn? Was it bruised, bleeding? Exactly what did they see that led to the many leaks about Amanda being sexually assaulted?
"How would it benefit LT to attack the initial claims that Amanda was sexually assaulted?"
If swabbing, scrapings, skin cell dna, etc. were taken from that region of Amanda's body, it may not be LT's dna, but Davey's all over it. True, it could be mixed, but dna experts will be able to decipher and I'm sure, give differing opinions. If it comes down to the fact that LT's dna was not found on Amanda at all, especially given the initial torture session, knocking teeth out, busting lips, bending her over to watch her bleed, in and out of the front door, etc. there has got to be a fair amount of his dna somewhere in that house. It will benefit LT's case to insinuate it was Davey who beat his wife, Davey who raped his wife, Davey who killed his wife. I think that may possibly be the platform LT works from. It would be so easy to show how le rushed clearing Davey & Co. how he and Kristie knew each other prior to Amanda's death, how he hit the media running, how he ran out of town the minute he could, how he was not brought down to the station, how he was not put through proper protocol, etc. etc. Again, all my own opinion and just theorizing what may take place in a decade or so, if we're lucky.
Amanda's mother told her cousin that Amanda had been sexually assaulted. I screencapped the facebook in February.
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/photos/a.308973289517983/565853200496656/?type=3&theater
I posted a link to the cousin's comments in a March blog.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2018/03/who-knew-what-and-when-and-who-asked.html
Sometime between then and today, the comment was deleted.
If she was a friend of the cousin at the time, she is no longer.
I hope the commenter wasn't harassed.
"Exactly what did they see that led to the many leaks about Amanda being sexually assaulted? "
It's confusing, isn't it? IMO, if Amanda was found naked from the waist down, her underwear beside her, and her shirt pulled up, she was definitely sexually assaulted by someone, despite the APC saying that it wasn't "clear" if she'd been sexually assaulted. Perhaps it's a problem with semantics. i.e.. Rape versus sexual assault, - the APC should have said it wasn't clear if she'd been raped - because, by definition, if her underwear was removed and her shirt pulled up - it was sexual assault. No doubt about it.
Off Topic: Tyler Tessier found dead in his jail cell https://www.yahoo.com/gma/man-accused-killing-pregnant-girlfriend-found-dead-jail-153032658--abc-news-topstories.html
The thing is, correct me if I am wrong? There is no charge against Larry for sexual assault. Even if used some foreign device, with all the other attacks to her body, there should be DNA evidence still linking him, resulting in a sexual assault charge. Kate, I think you nailed it. IMPD wanted to quickly wrap this up, took a bunch of statements from gang members, showed a grainy, nonsensical picture of a man walking down the street, blamed the whole thing on him. However, after arresting him and gathering all the DNA, oh crap! Larry must have covered himself in bubble wrap because there is no Larry DNA in the house. Just speculation on my part but it is not that hard to think this might just be the dilemma.
Dale Wilkinson: Amber Byars Wilkinson I’m so sorry to hear that, prayers for you and your mom and dad and grand parents, loss is never easy, but believe me when I say we all want justice !
Amber Byars Wilkinson
Amber Byars Wilkinson Dale Wilkinson I know you do! And that means a lot to us! Seriously! Thank you! ❤️
The above is an exchange between Amber and a distant uncle of Gavin's. He says he wants justice and she says "I know you do"?? So odd. With all her poetic posts about Amanda (which are really wonderful, especially since we know nothing about Amanda from Davey) you would think there would be one of two calling for justice for her sister. It is unsettling.
^ ^ ^ re Amber's NOTcall for justice - the mixed emotions must be causing a terrific internal struggle.
Amber knows things. The whole family must certainly know things don't add up even remotely close to Davey's stories.
Davey is clearly the second love of her life - Gavin has to fight for her heart every single day (she wrote that on her Facebook wall, it was either for their anniversary or Gavin's birthday).
So it's a conundrum for Amber. For if Amber fights or calls for justice for Amanda, the end result could and might well be her having minimal contact with Davey, seeing him imprisoned, away from Weston and the rest of the family. And she doesn't want that.
So she floats along through life, writing her beautiful posts on special occasions and probably hopes everyone will eventually forget Davey's stories and lies, forget that he and Kristi were seeing each other at the same gym before Amanda was killed, forget all of the coincidences and how everything fell into place so neatly during this "random" home invasion.
Peter always says if they can't say it, we can't say it for them.
CLEARLY Amber cannot say SHE wants justice too - she chose not to say it when given the perfect context - in response to Gavin's uncle saying he wants justice.
What about saying "yeah I know Uncle Dale, we do too" instead of just "I know you do"-and "that means alot to us!" if she/they do.
ffb, if we can't say things for Amber, why do you infer this?
"CLEARLY Amber cannot say SHE wants justice too"
because...
"the mixed emotions must be causing a terrific internal struggle."
"Davey is clearly the second love of her life"
"probably hopes everyone will eventually forget Davey's stories and lies"
It sounds like a desperate need to persuade, imho.
Question: How do you stay strong when you've experienced such a traumatic loss?
Amber: : I remember thinking. I think I said it to you [points at Davey], too. I, I told Davey. We were in the hospital and I said, ‘How in the world are we going to make it through like, the next 50 years without Amanda?’ And, I don’t even know what you said in that moment but later Davey was like, ‘We, we can’t think about the next 50 years.’ Um. You have to take it, just today and, god doesn’t give you grace for 50 more years. He’ll give you grace for today to get you through, just today. And so, there’s days I wake up and I’m like, ‘Lord, please just help me through today. But then there’s days I wake up and I just thank [Davey wipes eyes] Him so much that; it’s been 10 months and I, never stayed in bed, past like 8:00 with kids, but. And I just have had the strength and our family’s had the strength and, you know, I don’t know what I would do if Davey, or my dad, or my mom, or James or Angela or Gavin if, if any one of us decided that, this [Davey wipes eyes again]. Not that it’s not worth it, but had, chosen a different path or chosen to be angry or chosen to, not respond, um, just, the right way or, chosen to follow jesus through it all, because that has helped me, more than anything. But, I am just so overwhelmed, and so thankful, um, and that jesus has given us the grace to, to, to make it this far and to follow through, on this journey, and I. Yeah.
Davey: Three years ago, shortly after we moved here, um. I went out to coffee with a guy, a Pastor at a church down the road, itown church, and um, his name’s Jake Baird. Many of you guys remember Jake. He came and spoke in December, and he lost his wife five years ago. Uh, middle of the night, he woke up at midnight, and she was, gone, just, um, died in her sleep, and I remember, going to coffee with him. It was a couple years after it happened, and he was sharing with me, giving testimony to how faithful god has been, and I’m blown away. As I’m sitting here across the, the um, m, you know, table with this guy who – I’m saying how in the world is he speaking with, with such strength after going through something like this. I remember specifically, going home, and telling Amanda about that story and going I don’t know how in the world he’s doing this. Like, there no way I would be able to walk with that much faith and trust and strength if I were in the same situation. I had no idea that three years later I would be in the same situation. No idea.
ffb, thinking more about your post...
You assert that Amber has knowledge that, if she were to fight or call for justice for Amanda, could result in seeing Davey imprisoned.
And she doesn't want that... future wives of Davey be damned.
If, as you've asserted, Amber holds knowledge that could result in seeing Davey imprisoned, does she also hold knowledge that could result in Larry Taylor being exonerated or cleared of some charges, in Amanda's murder?
Am I correct in assuming that, IYO, LT has a perfectly reasonable explanation for walking on Sunnyfield, before dawn, on the morning Amanda was murdered in her own home? And that perfectly reasonable explanation is that, at the request of Davey, an unknown person drove an unsuspecting LT to Sunnyfield, made him get out of the car, so that he would be seen by neighbours and on security cams, thus deflecting suspicion away from Davey? and then, fresh from using the murder victims bank card, which was given to (not stolen by) JW and DG by the same or a different unknown person, (along with a pink sweater from Beckers) ) the stolen Sebring returns to pick up poor, confused, innocent Larry?
It is your opinion that the police do not have any DNA, (because you would have heard about it) and the absence of DNA proves beyond a reasonable doubt that LT was not in the Blackburn house.and that the guilty pleas by JW and DG are false or coerced (because they weren't in the house, either, because theirDNA is not there, and their testimony is worthless because they are lying about being involved in a felony 2 crime that they did not commit, voluntarily signing up for a minimum of 10 years jail, because there is evidence connecting them to felony one murder which they also did not commit.
Is it your opinion that, having broken and entered and robbed JS and stolen her car, that LT and DG/JW split up, then at 6:25am DG and JW drive to Sunnyfield, pick up the sweater and Amanda's Chase Bank Card from someone (?), and then at 6:39am LT arrives separately, at Sunnyfield in an unidentified (and apparently invisible) car, LT gets out of the car, the invisible car drives away and LT hangs around for 20 minutes on the street in the November cold pre dawn,before calling DGs phone a few times, until the Sebring returns to Sunnyfield? Is that what you think? If not, what do you think? Why was Larry on Sunnyfield on the morning of AMANDAs murder?
The version of events, wherein DG, JW and LT, are guilty of nothing (besides the JS robbery and receiving stolen property) and did not even enter the Blackburn home, is IMO, unlikely to the point of bizarre.
When I hear hoofbeats, I think of horses, not zebras ....or unicorns.
IT is my opinion that the coverup story of what happened on 11/9/15 being attributed to thieves on 11/10/15 is fantastical. If a unicorn would get butts in seats and embellish the illustrated image of church perfection, I have no doubt one would appear in the story. Perhaps Amanda would have ridden through the party portal on one.
Trudy, why don't you ask Davey, Mike Colaw, David Drury, Sauce Burnside, Dad Blackburn, Christy, Kenneth Wagner, Amber, Mamaw, Faltynski, Bontrager, Reichanadter, and all the other people/neighbors/Bartlesville/Newspring/Wesleyan/Baptist holiness connections who were either silenced or complicit in silencing what happened "last night"?
Davey said he was growing his church on 11/9/15.
The Wesleyan Investment Foundation offers loans to church planters.
There was supposedly a big family dinner at Mamaw's house on 11/9/15.
Yet...Amanda's parents, brother and sister-in-law were supposedly all out in California on 11/9/15.
Dad Blackburn wrote on 11/11/15 to the Wesleyan communit(ies):
"We will never be able to repay the outpouring of love, prayer and encouragement the Blackburn and Byars families have been recipients of these past 48 hours."
Q: Were Wesleyan investment monies used to fund corrupt activities surrounding the murder of Amanda Blackburn, who died so the church would grow?
Trudy,
Speaking of cars, the Sebring should be on video driving down Davey's street before parking at Becker's, yet there is no mention of the Sebring on video on Davey's street - just video of the Sebring on the next street, picking up someone wearing Alonzo Bulls' clothing (could be Larry, could be someone else). The dark-colored SUV that is seen on video speeding down Davey's street at 6am has disappeared from the narrative.
Jalen's DNA was found on Becker's sweater and he was seen in the stolen Sebring at the ATM. (And why would Jalen/Diano/Larry, or anyone, take time to steal a sweater? The burglary at Becker's was before Amanda's murder, yet someone had the foresight to take a sweater to use to cover their face at an ATM before they even supposedly knew they were going to have bank cards to use at an ATM? The sweater was obviously a plant). Jalen was going to go down for murder if he didn't flip. Murderers cast blame on others all the time.
And why was Diano's cousin so worried about Jalen snitching on Diano if all Diano did was stay outside Jacola's and get dropped off outside of Davey's neighborhood? Diano took a plea because he was way more involved than just a passenger in a stolen vehicle.
The only evidence that we've seen that points to Larry is the testimony of Jalen, Diano and the other thugs and cell phone pings that don't put Larry with Jalen and Diano. Some of us want to see more evidence directly linking Larry to the murder.
You do make for interesting thoughts and points Bobcat. Unfortunately, we live in a society where if you question anything, anything at all, you are labeled a tinfoil hat wearer and conspiracy nut, just for pointing out inconsistencies. While we haven't agreed on many things, I do have an open mind and am beginning to wonder if you have something here. Of course, we are most likely never going to find out, but they have had many inconsistencies with regards to telling this story.
For example, when I was listening to Robin tell her story, a few red flags came up. I'm not certain if any of you have seen this performance, but she states on two different occasions that she was with Amanda for two days prior to her passing away. How can that be? She stated they left California, traveled all day and didn't make it to the hospital until 1:00 am that morning, so by my calculations, she had a mere 6 hours with Amanda before pulling the plug, not two days, not even one full day, just hours. Unless I misunderstood something? She does confirm the two day story a second time, so I hope someone is able to clear it up.
I don't think this falls under conspiracy necessarily, as it is Robin and Phil's actual testimony being given and misleads the public to believe the decision was made to pull the plug with thorough thought, prayer and consideration, instead of the 6 hour rush job.
Here's the video, it starts about the 10:30 mark https://vimeo.com/204564669
Kate,
I've seen that and transcribed it.
I read an odd statement once, unfortunately I haven't re-found it to fit it into the 'actual' timeline (compared to the 'narrative' timeline).
One was that Phil and Robin were in a hotel waiting for LE to come and get them when it was ok.
I transcribed Phil telling the narrative at FBCElkhart less than two weeks after the 'show' went down. After he was done, he sat down and said 'that's hard'. Did he mean that telling the narrative of lies was hard?
When Robin tells the narrative, Phil expresses surprise at how well she does. He underestimates her.
I don't like the word 'conspiracy'.
I prefer to just explore 'what happened'.
IF part of what happened is some people decided that what actually happened was unacceptable to their image, and planned a course of action that might mask what had happened in a manner that could fit into a different narrative, leaving their image intact; can be described as a conspiracy, then yes, I believe there was a conspiracy to mask what actually happened to Amanda and pin her murder on Larry Taylor.
I can't completely wrap my mind around some huge cover-up but I do have questions and concerns. One being Robin talking about Amanda's last physical appearance being in that silent video from Trader's Point. SUCH an odd thing to say. Also, Amber talking about walking into Amanda's "perfect" house with the sparkly Christmas tree just a few days after the murder. She explains that the house is in perfect order even down to the carefully placed journals and candy corn. Everything is in order just like Amanda always had her home, etc. Yet, there was a brutal murder, furniture knocked over and lamps were broken. THere was also a clean-up crew rushed in soon after the execution. Did they clean up and place everything back just as Amanda had it before she was killed. That is utter nonsense.
The biggest Red Flag to me was Phil (who actually has a seminary degree and years of experience as a Baptist pastor) letting Davey get up a spew such bad theology in front of his congregation. He let him tell his church that God wasn't happy with Davey's little life so Amanda had to die so Davey could grow big numbers. He even brought that idiot back and let him speak at his church a few months later. Phil most likely wanted to punch Davey's lights out but he couldn't and there is a reason. I don't know what the reason is but yes, I am suspicious of who knows what and why they have to protect the murderous, sociopathic, crazy Davey.
Bingo - regarding the Trader's Point video - did you know that Dave Adamson (who is in close contact with both Howard Frist and David Drury (who are also in close contact Wesleyan+Newspring)) is a gifted image manipulator? He was showing off his talents at transferring heads from one image to another in early 2014. I can only imagine his talents were even better by the end of 2015.
I wonder if his talents are connected to the Trader's Point video.
I would love to see the email chain from Trader's Point that put the video on Davey's laptop, AND Amber's facebook.
Davey said his congregation was caught up in a story.
Who is the author?
Why are they all-powerful?
Why has it helped Amber more than anything?
In any discussion, one of the easiest ways to find out whether you have understood someone's opinion is to recite back to them what you think they are saying and ask, "Is this correct? Is this your position? Is this your opinion?"
If the opinion of the person is complex, you might need to take it slowly, asking questions, one at a time, and getting a "yes" or "no" answer, before continuing, so that you are sure you fully comprehend that person's position.
Eg.
Is it your opinion that neither JW/DG nor LT entered the Blackburn home? Is it therefore your opinion that the Swisher Sweets were planted? Is it your opinion that it was Davey Blackburn who planted the swisher sweets?
(Swisher Sweets are cheap cigars.)
I think this approach is the best way to clarify a person's position, identify sound/unsound reasoning and logical/illogical conclusions.
IMO, JW (doubtful DG, as he was careful in all 4 crimes not to go inside any residences) may have gone inside Davey's. He was at least most likely given the bank cards when he was on Davey's street from 6:25 until 6;30ish.
Yes, I think the Swishers were planted. Maybe by Davey, maybe Kristi, maybe the other Kitl gang member that was there. Jalen could have brought them with him at 6:25am, when he was on Davey's street for 5 minutes. Jalen then drives to the first ATM at 6:39am, a minute after Larry's phone pinged on Davey's street (6:38am), so Jalen did not come outside with the bank cards while Larry supposedly stayed inside with Amanda.
I don't think Larry ever went inside Amanda's. And I don't think whoever was videotaped that morning had a gun on them, so the crime had already happened when that person was casually wandering Davey's neighborhood (imo).
daveyblackburnHey friends! We’re hiring!! Looking for a Worship and Production Pastor! If you or anyone you know are interested, go to resonateindy.com/jobs for more info!
Hiring? What the?
He’s a cult leader
Most of Davey's core, including Ashley & Derek and his business attorney Micheal Head and his wife, have left the church. Only Zach and Megs remain.
There is still at least one powerfully funded image consulting team covering Davey's narrative and his supporting organizations. The Nothing Is Wasted project at Think Up Consulting includes Leslie Beach from Newspring and she is connected with many interested parties related/connected to Davey.
Gary Welsh was very critical of Indy corruption and the timeline, and found dead in May 2015. Larry's foster parents were terrified of Davey after arrests were made.
Some lucky parishioners have left Resonate, but there are still multi-tentacled evangelical/Wesleyan/NGO wagons and tanks circled around Davey.
Michael Head has many connections in Kokomo, and Davey is speaking there this week.
In case you missed it, Peter was on Coast to Coast AM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-JnjdEnuk
The Kokomo gig just looks like a tiny, nothing gig that Davey gets maybe every once every 6 months. It seems to fall in line with his other small gigs such as pancake breakfasts, RV shows, and funeral parlors. His connection was most likely more like Kristi since she attended Indiana University. How humiliating it must be for power-hungry Davey to be the speaker at such few and far between, nothing type events. Even his best friend, uncle and babysitter have stopped inviting him to speak. He most likely thought he was be speaking in large civic center-type events, alongside Furtick and Goebel, selling his best-selling book on tables lined up outside as crowds lined up after shows to get his autograph. Doubtful funeral and RV peeps ask for an autograph from Davey boy. There is no book to sign, even though he tried so valiantly to get it out while the story was still fresh. Too bad, the carefully plotted plan with all the connected dots doesn't seem to be lining up quite as perfectly as CD thought.
He's just a professional beggar, a conman, village idiot. He uses Amanda, her name and her legacy to forward himself/his agenda as much as possible. "My late wife @amandablackburn was murdered in our home by 3 BOYS." Boys?! It is mind boggling that he can use this story and beg for money, but never beg, plead, scream for justice for Amanda. I've never seen anything like it, even from her own family. Broken record here, but it's just unreal how Amanda was completely dismissed and to this day, not one of her inner circle appears to give a rip.
"daveyblackburnWOULD YOU HELP ME RAISE $5000 TO BRING THE GOSPEL TO INCARCERATED TEENAGERS?!
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Almost 3 years ago my late wife, @amandagblackburn, was murdered in our home by 3 boys. One was 18 years old and the other two just over 20. I’m partnering with Youth For Christ to raise $5000 for Juvenile Justice Ministry — a Ministry that brings the Gospel and mentoring relationships to youth in correctional facilities in an effort to fully restore them. 70% of teenagers arrested, imprisoned and released will be arrested again. Help us stop this phenomenon by bringing the hope of Jesus to incarcerated teenagers. Send me Over the Edge on September 28th by going to this link to give! https://secure.qgiv.com/event/account/644506/ . . . LINK IN PROFILE
Slightly OT
I hate to paint a broad brush, but as Davey said "WE have nothing to hide"
The more I look, the more I see Davey is a Wesleyan prince, and THE WESLEYAN CHURCH and it's tentacles are a BEHEMOTH. Newspring is peanuts by comparison.
Church is big business. Now I know there are good people in churches, but this lady takes the cake.
Her husband is a former Wesleyan Assistant District Superintendent, and now Pastor of Waterline church - which is growing and planning to open new tithe collection sites (aka Taco Bell popup franchise church).
She is a wife of a pastor.
Does she donate extra product to a local food pantry?
Heck no.
Her kid sells it out of their garage.
Does she even know about where local food pantries are?
Appanrently not, as she posted this on 8/31/18.
"What INDIANPOLIS food pantries are available for a friend in need?
How about toiletries, too? Any recommendations?"
>end rant
"The Kokomo gig just looks like a tiny, nothing gig that Davey gets maybe every once every 6 months. It seems to fall in line with his other small gigs such as pancake breakfasts, RV shows, and funeral parlors. His connection was most likely more like Kristi since she attended Indiana University."
Compare the Kokomo gig to the Lightworkers segment he filmed via connections to Roma Downey. Specifically, Uncle Eddy and Jim Garlow.
Send me Over the Edge on September 28th by going to this link to give! https://secure.qgiv.com/event/account/644506/
What's with the dollar amounts at 525.00, 105.00 and 52.50? some kind of code?
^^ Give something to find out.
I sure hope this money goes directly to the cause and not into Davey's pockets? I hope people remember how he took the money they donated after his wife's execution and bought a mansion, lavish vacations, and a new car. Nothing ever put in place for Amanda's memory at that point when he could have started a flourishing ministry with all of that money. He did not. I would be so cautious to donate to anything he does.
Begs to reach the $5,000 mark, hit's all his social media, uses Amanda's name to gain that money, stresses the importance of inner city youth attention. All well and good right? Until you consider for almost two weeks the reward money offered to find the killers of Amanda, was at a mere $1,000 as Davey skipped town.
"a Ministry that brings the Gospel and mentoring relationships to youth in correctional facilities in an effort to fully restore them. 70% of teenagers arrested, imprisoned and released will be arrested again. Help us stop this phenomenon by bringing the hope of Jesus to incarcerated teenagers. Send me Over the Edge on September 28th by donating!"
The man has zero pride and has turned professional beggar, has no idea what an honest days work is. Pretends he is going to help clean up Indy, spends the rest of the day filming others working hard. Princess Davey, how proud his parents must be.
Speaking of giving a rip, a rarely used expression. I remember my mother used to say it, from an older generation. It also appeared in a 2012 Wesleyan Life headline.
Just when I thought I'd seen the levels of hypocrisy to which DB could sink, here he is, disingenuously virtue-signalling, with his grasping paws out, begging for money, yet again, this time for the "boys" (and those like them) who brutally murdered his pregnant wife.
Why it costs $5000.00 is anybody's guess, and why he needs people to dig into their own pockets to fund the salvation of hopeless, criminal recidivists, when he could easily contribute that amount himself, from Amanda's million dollar life insurance policy, is also anybody's guess.
Funny how these shameless money grabs (ostensibly for the benefit of others) always seem to involve other people paying for DB to do something he enjoys: crossfit games, fun runs, and, now, an adventurous rappelling down the side of a building. No doubt photographers will be there to capture every moment of this disgusting narcissist's adventure. Can't people just donate straight to a cause without DB being a jack ass, taking his shirt off, and mugging for the camera? Apparently not.
Considering Larry Taylor has pleaded not guilty to: Amanda's murder, the Hernandez murder, the burglaries, robberies and rape that he allegedly committed as a "boy"; DB might better serve his purpose of stopping the "phenomenon" of repeat offenders returning to jail, by donating straight to LT's defense fund. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Of course, much better still, would have been NOT contracting gang members to murder for hire, in the first place.
RIP Amanda Blackburn. Will there ever be Justice for you and your unborn baby?
Good points Anon @10:20 and Kate about the $1000.00 reward money. DB stumped up a measly grand to catch Amanda's killers, but in another horrific act of betrayal of his murdered wife and child, wants to raise at least five times that amount to "mentor" the killers, once they are convicted.
Maybe crazy Davey was trying to get a head start on his "keep the boys out of jail" campaign, by ensuring they wouldn't be caught at all. A thousand bucks is not much incentive for anyone to come forward, is it? It's just another posthumous slap in the face to Amanda and her baby.
Actually, Trudy, he wasn't even the one to put up the $1,000. Crime Stoppers did. He didn't put up a dime of his own money to help catch Amanda's killers. Maybe one of us will rappel down a building to raise $5,000 to help end this trend of pastors having their wives killed.
Lol @ rappelling to raise awareness of homicidal pastors. We should get some tee shirts made.
Pastors seem to be a bit over represented in the field of wife murder, don't they? Or maybe it just seems that way.
For starters, there are Stephen Allwine, Matt Baker, Richard Lee Shannan, Walker Riley, Daniel Randall, Lyndon Burkett, Christopher Gattis, Matthew Phelps, Philip Grandine, Michael Tabb, Tracey Burleson and the lowest of them all, Chris Coleman.
Send them all over the edge of a building on September 28. Sans rope.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/how-this-man-tried-to-get-away-with-murdering-both-of-his-wives/
BEWARE !
On another board, a (wise and insightful) poster advised Kristi to move well away from the edge. . . accidents happen
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnbB9uuFZj2/?taken-by=daveyblackburn
And I agree with sending the whole lot of the murderous "preachers" over the edge without a rope. September 28th is my brother's birthday.
Trudy said...
Pastors seem to be a bit over represented in the field of wife murder, don't they? Or maybe it just seems that way. For starters, there are Stephen Allwine, Matt Baker, Richard Lee Shannan, Walker Riley, Daniel Randall, Lyndon Burkett, Christopher Gattis, Matthew Phelps, Philip Grandine, Michael Tabb, Tracey Burleson and the lowest of them all, Chris Coleman.
Send them all over the edge of a building on September 28. Sans rope. September 17, 2018 at 6:29 PM
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Noble should be added to the top of the list, he leads the pack. He has one glaring difference from CD, he makes sure to have a building for his church. The remodeling and updating should be completed in a few months and there seems to be quite a following for his "second chance church". Some pics of how pleased he is with his new workout bod, has to be the work of roids, imo.
On a separate note, Larry Taylor's phone was traced via the "backpage" website. This website has since been seized by the FBI and the CEO, Carl Ferrer pleaded guilty to charges of facilitating prostitution and money laundering. This website was popular for people to visit and set up sexual encounters, a paradise for someone like CD.
Did LE do a phone/ip search on Backpage for Davey's phone/postings/activity? Kristi's?
Good points, Kate. LE said Larry and his gf Haley Andreasen shared the phone and Hailey has been arrested for prostitution, so that is something LE should have looked at. We know Davey said he stepped outside the lines of marriage, or whatever the hell wordage he used to imply that he was not faithful (and we know know that he was seeing Kristi while Amanda was still alive and probably countless others).
How do you know he was seeing Kristi why Amanda was still alive? I haven't heard that fact yet.
*when Amanda was alive
Kate, that's a list of pastors who murdered their wives. So while, an argument could be made that, he half killed her with embarrassment, 'White Lucretia" has separated from (divorced?) Perry, and he can't go on the list.
It's possible Larry Taylor was a rent boy, and used the same phone as Haley, for client contacts. Somebody on DL suggested it. A phone/IP address search should definitely have been done. Backpages is just the sort of place that DB used those apps, he talked about, to get around blockers.
Speaking of which, DB said that two people had access to a list of all the sites he visited on line (except, presumably those sites blocked by the cheeky app). Amanda was one of these people. Who was the other? PN? KW? It would be very interesting to know the details of how, when and why it became necessary it became necessary for Pastor Blackburn to be held accountable for his web browsing history. Did Amanda catch him viewing porn?
It would also be interesting to know if DB still allows the same type of restrictions on himself, currently. I doubt it.
^^ Will say that they both attended the same LA Fitness on Shore Dr while Amanda was alive (Kristi lived a few blocks away from this LA Fitness). Davey used to jog by her parents house and they would meet. They also had clandestine meetings at coffee shops (Hubbard & Cravens being one). And Davey used to go to Kristi's apartment in Carmel (but he would not park in front of her apartment, he would park a few buildings away).
Yeah all of Davey's flowery story/ blog post about how he and Kristi met at Crossfit and and Resonate - when he peered at her with a new interest - Davey and Kristi totally knew each other WAY before the timeframe that Davey says they met.
Davey had SO much need to spin the story of when and how they met and how it was ok with Phil that he and Kristi went ahead and got married full steam ahead. Like anyone cares.
But he HAD to tell the tale and explain. How would it look if Davey said he knew Kristi from the same gym where he was seen on camera during the time that his "late wife" was supposedly being beaten and shot three times?
Trudy, I misread and thought it was just a list of rotten Pastors, sorry about that.
I believe it was PN who was reading the regular report cards of CD, also in this past Sunday's sermon from the great Pastor Blackburn, he revealed his confidant has and always will be, Kenneth Wagner, conveniently. He touched on his thoughts not being so pure these days and KW responded with "you're human". The sermon was all over the place, sounds like he's getting a bit wary of Krsti and old habits do die hard.
In one of the podcasts recently, he made reference to the adoption process and they are looking into it, as I understood it, he was referencing Weston being adopted by Kristi. I don't believe he was speaking about adopting Natalia. Is Andres still in the picture?
Kate, Andres is very much in the picture according to his SM. He calls her his princess, the best thing ever, etc. He and his new love posted a cute pic of the 3 of them wearing matching PJ's. I bet she doesn't force him to call her Mommy. That is just weird. I wonder how Andres feels about Davey making Natasha call her Daddy when she has a Daddy. I have never in my life seen a step-child call the step-dad "Daddy" unless Dad is out of the picture completely and still most of the time they still just call them by their name.
IT looks like more down-sizing for the every dwindling Resonate. They are moving out of offices and downsizing. They are selling tons of stuff including 18 office chairs. Here is the link if anyone is interested in crappy furniture. Too bad they couldn't donate it since they are #forindy and could probably really help some shelter or non-profit. Davey tries to act like he is so giving but if it is not for show or lots of money, it is not happening!
Ooops. Forgot the link: https://www.facebook.com/MegsGriffith/media_set?set=a.10100495850913367&type=3
Also, Davey's sermon is concerning. He seems to think everyone has the same dark, evil thoughts and desires that most obviously haunt him every single day. He talks about them almost every week to his congregation. If you attend or thinking about attending Resonate, flee! It is a toxic, crazy place to be. I am glad to understand that many of the key members have left and that the church is quickly dwindling. Here are a few troubling things Davey said this past Sunday:
"I feel like me, I am wearing a mask and I think I have people fooled."
"I am scared by some of my thoughts" "I am scared of some of my desires"
"We all have something in our hearts that to be plastered up on that screen, we would be excruciatingly embarrassed by it."
All above quotes from Davey
Thanks Bingo, I'm happy to hear Andres is still involved in Natalia's life. Also incredible CD is selling stuff off, anything for a buck. He begs for the over the edge donations, then attends the CIYFC annual dinner wine auction with Kristie and of course, has to post it to his social media, bragging as usual.
It's interesting that CD took the inner city project on and that's it. Meanwhile, Phil's church hosts an annual police officer event each October among other events that help out the community. Has Davey ever hosted anything for Indy police? After all, they solved the murder mystery and cleared Davey in under 36 hours, he could at least grill a few weenies for them.
No way is CD going to give HIS money, Kate. His sermon a about hi pic racy is enlightening to everyone but CD. He claims that it's the intention behind the giving. So I guess if he gives nothing, he doesn't have to be found giving for the intention of showing off. He is the biggest hipocrite there is - leading resonate. He is so clueless to the huge difference between what he says, and what he does. Here's the link if you can stand it https://resonateindy.com/sermons/wave/masks-and-movements
This year will be the 24th annual police appreciation day hosted by FBCElkhart. Nothing says church picnic like having a machine gun shoot over the border in Michigan.
So in November 2015, just a few weeks after the annual appreciation day - after countless FBCElkhart men told Phil they had his back, and Phil cried to Jesus while Robin was in the shower at the hotel to just get him out of the brutal murder of Amanda, and then Davey and all family members were 100% cleared hours later, perhaps Jesus called on Phil's police contacts for him?
^^
My mistake. It's not hosted by FBC Elkhart. It's organized by Jim Bontrager, close friend of the Byars.
I found an article posted just a few weeks before Amanda's murder:
https://nmc.church/blog/officer-appreciation-day-an-unusual-partnership/
"... Jim Bontrager, Senior Chaplain of the Elkhart Police Department, started Officer Appreciation Day 21 years ago. Since then, he and his team of volunteers and sponsors have put together a nationally-known event to lavishly love on officers and their families. This year, 213 families from 10 states and 43 agencies attended Officer Appreciation Day. Some of these people took a vacation day, loaded their family in a car or boarded a plane and came from across the country. It may seem a bit extreme, traveling hundreds of miles for a one-day event, yet for many officers, this day might be the only day during the course of the year they are genuinely thanked.
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Because of his strong convictions, he and his team put together a conference officers could attend the day before Officer Appreciation Day. At this conference, officers have the chance to learn biblical principles that can be applied everyday on the job."
Slightly OT
http://www.warrioronthewall.org/discipleship.html
What's the major thing Peter says can indicate someone is unsuitable for LE?
A need for respect.
Here's an outline of training that Jim Bontrager does in a LE new hire "spouse academy" which includes this:
"Discuss a man's primary need for respect and a woman's need for love. Help spouses better appreciate how they complement each other and provide needed input into their children's lives."
And if you thought Davey had a need to persuade...
"Married to his wife Susie of 30 years, Jim is father of 9 children, aged 14 to 30 yrs. old. He knows what causes it and enjoys it very much!! Ooooohraaah!!"
http://www.warrioronthewall.org/about.html
You nailed it SS, the biggest hypocrite to date. In his podcast today, he interviews Jamie Ivey. Before beginning the podcast, he speaks with Emilie about his two mission trips in life. One where he went with his dad to Haiti at age 12, medical mission trip, one aunt was there who is a pediatrician and two uncles, one is an ob/gyn. Says he was able to sit in on the surgeries, holding up a uterus, witnessing a hysterectomy and a c-section. So very curious that he said Amanda fell down and yet was oblivious to her injuries with his experience seeing female surgeries first hand.
He says he and Kristie have considered adopting a Haitian baby, Amanda wanted to too, but now it's he and Kristie. https://www.daveyblackburn.com/podcast/episode34
His over the edge page has stalled at $2,279, prepare for another social media beg job shortly.
Right on queue https://fox59.com/2018/09/20/davey-blackburn-discusses-forgiveness-continuing-legacy-of-late-wife-and-unborn-baby/
$2300 and change after yesterday's press. Not much of a payoff there.
He's only made a hundred bucks and some change after that news blitz? Even with Davey stating if they hit the $6,000 mark, Finch will join him?! Things are looking up. I see on the Fox59 facebook page, the comments are mostly all negative against Davey, definitely worth checking out.
I am shocked at the lack of response to his begging clip. A few years back I was on our local news for business and my website was slammed, it is great publicity and a huge way to gain advertising for free, he tanked it, people definitely know something is seriously wrong with this pretend pastor and with what they say happened to Amanda.
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