Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
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In answer to a question about why, if he suspects someone, he hasn't confronted the suspect.
DeOrr Kunz
DeOrr Kunz because if we're wrong then we go to prison retard much like you guys we have nothing to go off or evidence of anything either were not Klein just make shit up
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He doesn't say why he hasn't shared his suspicions with LE.
Diano Gordon has a new attorney, Kimberly Shawntee Robinson. He has not joined causes with Taylor or Watson. He has a pretrial conference scheduled for July 21.
Great posts, everyone. I still can't comprehend why the police (it appears) never suspected DB. Something seems so fishy about how fast his home was cleaned, his interview with police appeared very short, and there seems to be no putting 2 and 2 together like posters here have. Has DB been reinterviewed? Have they checked out all the things that posters have brought up themselves; the money trail, the stories DB tells, the possibilities he was involved? It doest look like it, and it really bothers me. Why? Connections to the churches? His family? It makes no sense at all that he is Scott free with no worries about being accused. It appalls me. Can't wait for more info from the trials. Part of me worries there won't be one the way we hope. To me, it seems info is being hidden.
Hey all. Remodelling the damn bathroom before he sold the murder house was a cute move and not suspicious at all. If there was any thing (blood, dna, drugs, vomit etc) in the s bend, in the grouting, or other hard to reach places, (where Forensics sometimes likes to look) it's gone forever.
Newspring's new Social Media Manager appears to be in an unhidden same sex relationship. https://www.facebook.com/nbeville?hc_location=ufi
Nah. Mores the pity. She's engaged to some guy called Nick. Newspring is not a progressive church by any means. More regressive. Don't forget to have sex with your husbands, ( even when you don't want to) girls!.
Coulda fooled me. He wouldn't be the first beard in the ranks...@@@@
any level of believability."
First you say we can't even begin to imagine. Then, you say it's not a problem for us to develop unbelievable off the chart theories. Which is it?
You see, bobcat, this is one of the many flaws in your analyses attempts.
You have misinterpreted me. That is not what I said. Read carefully. Context is crucial.
The Nothing is Wasted book doesn't seem to be happening. If you look on Amazon, you will see that hey have no intention to print this book. Hard copies not even available for presale. The only version available is kindle edition which can be delivered to your device on 2025?? I was shocked anyone would risk publishing him but when he posted every page update, vacationing every other week in beautiful lavish space calling it book retreats and showed himself signing with the book agents, I figured we would be seeing a book in November. My prediction was that he would try to have it available on November 10th just like he did with the album last year. Wow.
"Diano Gordon has a new attorney, Kimberly Shawntee Robinson. He has not joined causes with Taylor or Watson. He has a pretrial conference scheduled for July 21. "
This does not surprise me at all. He won't join with Taylor and Watson. Gordon is the only one that was good friends with Alonzo Bull and Bull wrote all over FB "Free whatever-Gordon's-gang-name-is" when Gordon was in jail in the summer of 2015 (while conveniently staying silent this jail-time stay). Gordon made sure to 1) not enter the neighbor's house during the "robbery" and 2) not go inside the Blackburn home and 3) not be the one using the ATM cards and 4) get dropped off blocks away before Watson went back to pick up Taylor.
Gordon knew this was a hit and didn't want any blood on him. He will stick to his story of "Taylor said he killed her because she charged him" as well as the story that Taylor had to be talked out of murdering someone at an earlier robbery. Taylor is too young and to new to thug life to realize that he has been set up from the start. Watson is collateral damage, as someone had to go back and get Taylor, and even though Taylor had not yet "confessed" to murdering Amanda, Gordon knew enough to stay the hell away from the scene.
What Gordon doesn't realize is that he's still going to be found guilty of first degree murder. Maybe then he will talk but right now he is definitely going to distance himself from the two, especially Taylor.
Btw, here's her info, in case anyone wants to send her a link to these threads:
Law Office of Kimberly Shawntee Robinson. 4911 East 56th StreetIndianapolis, IN 46220-5719. Phones: (317) 254-1443 Fax: (317) 254-1449 atty.robinson@icloud.com
Bull and Gordon ("DLoc") were both in jail together in July 2015.
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As the beards turn...Newspring, the next generation.
https://nikkileighbeville.wordpress.com/2016/05/11/i-told-her-we-couldnt-make-out/
Adorbs on screen, but I'm not buying it.
Good post, Cheryl. You make an excellent point that Alonzo Bull frequently made posts on fb in the past about freeing DG from jail, but has remained silent on DGs recent arrest and incarceration for Amanda Blackburn's murder. I'm not sure how he's still running free when he is an accessory after the fact (at least). He could be the CI and have received immunity for his cooperation.
Trudy, I didn't know he remodeled his bathroom! More reason to suspect he washed himself or/and Weston before calling the fire truck. I didn't realize he told someone that Weston was wandering around either. I always thought DB might have threw the ladder on the floor as cover for AB having a head wound because she was "still breathing.". Always thought he messed with the crime scene. I pray Amanda gets. true justice. I am wary of the police not fully investigating the crime, because they cleared him in so soon and so adamantly. Almost like no way are we looking at her husband, he's a pastor!
Still heartbreaking to think of Amanda, and Weston. I would hope my family would check every fact, every rumor, and every word, smug smile and spending spree my husband did before they started vacationing with him, if I was found murdered. How can they stand all the things he's said? And the inappropriate life insurance, new home, car! Not to mention the word "Serendipity"! So disturbing.
Davey also didn't waste any time bringing in the professional house cleaning crew.
The "random" home invasion which apparently gave the homeowner "no idea that anyone had been in his home" was on Tuesday morning. Amanda was pronounced dead Wednesday morning and by Thursday night (it might've even been Wednesday night), professional cleaners had already been to the house and finished their work.
Amanda was on a vent with family and friends gathered around her bed listening to Pandora radio and worshiping and singing and praying and yet someone in the midst of all of this grieving going on found the presence of mind to summon the professional cleaners THAT FAST.
Before someone says it, yes IMPD and whoever else would've had to release the house back to Davey before cleaners could come in - but why the rush. It's not like he was going to be sleeping there right away.
And expediting the cleanup assured that the scene would be wiped clean in case / IF detectives had wanted to revisit the scene for any reason after it was released.
Tell me when you first began to understand your church's potential?
"We had this guy named Lee. He started showing up about three or four months after we started. I was preaching through the story of David and Goliath, and I remember him coming up to me and saying, “Hey man, about the third week into that story, I had to go out and buy a Bible to see what happens.” One Sunday, Lee checked the box in the bulletin asking to talk to someone about your relationship with Christ. I tried to call Lee three or four times an hour that entire day. That night, I am greeting people in the lobby and Lee walks in. He had spent the day on a boat. I get excited because he felt free to walk into church in his bathing suit, button-up shirt, and flip-flops. I tell Lee that I had been trying to contact him about his request for more information on a relationship to Christ. So I led Lee to Christ right there in the lobby. I saw Jesus change him. He was incredibly faithful in his service to the church and others. About a year ago he was diagnosed with a brain tumor and shortly after went on to be with the Lord."
Question: Did "Lee" exist?
The cleaning crew being called in so swiftly was a huge red flag to me. How could the police be so sure there wasn't something else to go back and check in that amount of time. The killers had not even been caught. Also, Davey lies many times telling "his story" about how he couldn't return to his home because it was a "crime scene". Another lie that wasn't even necessary. Anyone that read the news that week knows that the police returned the house back into the hands of the family by Wednesday.
I have thought about this case a lot this week. A little girl in our community was struck by a car on Saturday. Her chances of survival were very small. There really wasn't much hope but that didn't stop the family and friends from begging for prayers from the community. A page was set up for her within the hour to report updates and beg people to share with everyone they knew. Pictures of her were posted begging for prayers hourly. Think about what a SHARP contrast this is to Amanda. Was anything ever set up for Amanda? She did live for 24 hours in what Davey called a "waiting game". Instead of begging for prayers, Davey is concerned with changing the Resonate post to ensure everyone knew he was at the gym. He also set himself up a gofundme page that day. No page for Amanda, just self-serving deeds for himself. No outcry for prayer. I think he prayed a lot that day but not for her survival. When I see so much love, care and outcry for this local girl, it makes me so sad that while Amanda fought for her life, the person closest to her was protecting his alibi and working on his scheme to get money.
Jalen Watson (pretrial conference this Friday) has been granted his motion for administrative segregation.
Yes Bingo - definite contrast.
I would be willing to bet that the little girl's family did not release a prepared statement after she died, either. Does Davey's statement below really sound like it was written by someone who was waylaid / surprised by Amanda's death and having trouble wrapping his mind around it (as would be expected if it happened randomly and without warning in such a terrible manner) ?
This statement was released almost immediately. Not just to Resonate - to news media. This was going to be a big story. WHEN was this written? The best is yet to come was the conclusion (already). Echoing the two statements on the Resonate Facebook page, Davey was already (still) convincing how deeply he was hurting and that good things would come from this. The language and having it ready to release just smacks of foreknowledge and preplanning to me
Peter's analysis of it linked here -
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/statement-of-pastor-finds-wife-murdered.html
It’s impossible to communicate all the emotions my heart has been forced to process. My wife was such a beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God. I have not only lost my ministry partner and support but also my very best friend. There is no way to prepare yourself for circumstances like these. As deeply as I am hurting I am hopeful and confident that good things will come of this. I rest in the truth of Romans 8:28 that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and who are called according to His purpose.
Thank you for understanding my desire to take these next few days to continue to grieve for Amanda Grace. My focus right now is to let The Lord minister to my heart as I continue to shepherd little Weston’s. I’ll be taking this time to focus on being a great follower of Jesus, dad, family member, and pastor to our growing church.
Amanda made it her life’s calling to love and serve everyone she knew. Even more, she has made it her life’s mission to see as many people as possible come to know Jesus as their personal Savior. I know that in her death and legacy even more people will come to a saving faith in Christ. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt her desire for me would be to continue what we’ve started here in Indy. I hold firm to the belief that God is still good, that He takes our tragedy and turns it into triumph, and that the best truly is yet to come.
-Davey Blackburn
It's just far too accepting and pat, even if some time had passed - even for a "Christian".
And totally unexpected in the immediate aftermath of such an unexpected (?) and brutal murder.
Sort of like "sure, Amanda was killed, but. . . ."
Flight, Davey had the house cleaned WEDNESDAY. Detectives had come back to investigate but not surprisingly, Davey had already had the place professionally cleaned.
"Detectives and a second crime lab team revisited the Blackburn home on Sunnyfield Court on Indianapolis' northwest side Wednesday night after releasing the house Tuesday back to the family.
A local professional commercial cleaning company had already been called in and had left the home by Wednesday afternoon."
http://www.wthr.com/article/husband-100-cleared-in-murder-of-pregnant-indianapolis-mother
"Jalen Watson (pretrial conference this Friday) has been granted his motion for administrative segregation. "
Interesting. This is generally solitary confinement and is usually done as a disciplinary means. Since Watson asked for this, wonder if he wants some protection while he sings.
TJ said...
Flight, Davey had the house cleaned WEDNESDAY. Detectives had come back to investigate but not surprisingly, Davey had already had the place professionally cleaned.
"Detectives and a second crime lab team revisited the Blackburn home on Sunnyfield Court on Indianapolis' northwest side Wednesday night after releasing the house Tuesday back to the family.
A local professional commercial cleaning company had already been called in and had left the home by Wednesday afternoon."
http://www.wthr.com/article/husband-100-cleared-in-murder-of-pregnant-indianapolis-mother
WOW - this is the quote I remembered (about the house cleaning being expedited and finished surprisingly quickly) but I couldn't remember the exact days. This happened even faster than I thought.
So the professional cleaners would've had to get started (decently early?) Wednesday morning to already be finished with their work by Wednesday afternoon.
Which means that Davey or someone would have most likely called them on Tuesday as soon as the house was released - in order to get them there Wednesday morning already. How fortunate for him that the detectives returned to a house that had been professionally cleaned.
I guess he or someone acting for him had to slip away from the gathering of family and friends around his wife's bed (those who were conveniently singing Nothing is Wasted as the first song that randomly came on Pandora radio after they turned it on) to make the call.
"Waiting game" doesn't even begin to describe what was going on that Tuesday at Methodist Hospital - there was also an agenda of things to do after this unexpected random home invasion that resulted in Amanda being on a vent/life support in the ICU. Amend the post on the Resonate Facebook page to include the gym/confirm the alibi, call the cleaners. . .
And yeah I keep talking about Nothing is Wasted being the first song that RANDOMLY came on Pandora radio because Davey does in his appearances. It's obviously something he wants people to know. He even emphasizes it, separating the words, like "nothing. is. wasted" and then looks around for a reaction.
Seriously, what are the chances of that being the first song on that radio station that morning in those circumstances.
About the same chances as the iPod in his car randomly playing the song to which Amanda walked down the aisle as the first song when he got into the car - or that the getaway car was said to have been dropped off on the same street as Ananda's ex-youth pastor lived.
But it fits the story. And he engraved it on Amanda and Evie's gravestone and tweeted it at her celebration of life service too. And titled his huge new mansion in the name of Nothing is Wasted Serendipity too.
So why wouldn't it be the first song that came on the radio as well?
Back to the house cleaning being done so fast, while Amanda was at Methodist, technically still alive - this was on TUESDAY that the house was released.
While cleaning it that fast might have made it difficult or impossible to link Davey with forensics to whatever happened (if that was his intention) - that would also remove evidence that could tie those in custody to this as well.
I wonder if "these guys" realized once they arrived at the house that it was a setup and if so, how fast they left. I also wonder what evidence, if any, actually places them in the house - and even if it can be proven that they were in the house - their just being in the house doesn't mean they inflicted any or all of the injuries and all three gunshots to Amanda.
Anon at 10:57,
My thoughts exactly. I wonder what condition Amanda was in when he entered the home.
In addition to changing the FB page and calling the cleaners on Tuesday, Davey or one of his minions also started TWO funding pages (the gofundme page that was deleted and the recently deleted Christian funding site). And quite frankly, you would think some of the church folk would have offered to clean the house. Megs was the nanny and housekeeper for God's sake. But for some reason, Davey wanted his house professionally cleaned and cleaned quickly.
But for some reason, Davey wanted his house professionally cleaned and cleaned quickly.
Too quickly. Far too quickly. Wiping it clean.
I can understand using the professional cleaners instead of friends - with biohazards and masks and gowns and gloves necessary along with the personal connection.
But it's the TIMEFRAME. It's Davey's having to make the arrangements to have the house cleaned probably from the hospital - on the day the murder happened.
When his wife hadn't even been pronounced dead yet - while people were gathered around her bed praying for a miracle - at a time when you think everything would be a blur or cloud of shock and confusion (his words) - he was concerned enough about having his house cleaned right away to the point that he or someone made arrangements for it to happen the very next morning.
That seems like one of the lowest priorities in this situation - especially because nobody had been caught for this crime. Would someone innocent want to preserve the scene in case detectives wanted a closer/second look?
If it had been even a couple of days after the murder, it wouldn't raise my attention as much. But to have pro cleaners arrive the very next morning after it ? with arrangements having to have been made the afternoon it happened ?
Yeah the money grabs were almost instant too - and those pages stayed up for a very long time - the Blackburn family support fund link. All of those people gave money to poor Davey Blackburn and Weston. Little did they know they would be funding a 5000 square foot mansion and trips around the world.
Flight, the reason that I said usually friends or family clean is because we had something similar happen to my family. Someone broke in and beat my uncle to death with a baseball bat. My uncle was an elderly single man that always walked around with a wad of cash, even though we all told him not to. Anyway, we left the house as it was for about 3 weeks. Detectives and police came by for at least a week and a half. And then family went to do the cleaning, as we felt it was out last way to help and say good-bye. The case has been unsolved since 1983. Btw, when cleaning, we found about $40,000 in cash hidden in the fridge, between newspapers, under the couch cushions, etc. I'm glad it was us that cleaned and not a professional, as I doubt they would have let us know about the hidden money.
Oflightfulbird said...
But for some reason, Davey wanted his house professionally cleaned and cleaned quickly.
Too quickly. Far too quickly. Wiping it clean.
I can understand using the professional cleaners instead of friends - with biohazards and masks and gowns and gloves necessary along with the personal connection.
But it's the TIMEFRAME. It's Davey's having to make the arrangements to have the house cleaned probably from the hospital - on the day the murder happened.
When his wife hadn't even been pronounced dead yet - while people were gathered around her bed praying for a miracle - at a time when you think everything would be a blur or cloud of shock and confusion (his words) - he was concerned enough about having his house cleaned right away to the point that he or someone made arrangements for it to happen the very next morning.
That seems like one of the lowest priorities in this situation - especially because nobody had been caught for this crime. Would someone innocent want to preserve the scene in case detectives wanted a closer/second look?
If it had been even a couple of days after the murder, it wouldn't raise my attention as much. But to have pro cleaners arrive the very next morning after it ? with arrangements having to have been made the afternoon it happened ?
Yeah the money grabs were almost instant too - and those pages stayed up for a very long time - the Blackburn family support fund link. All of those people gave money to poor Davey Blackburn and Weston. Little did they know they would be funding a 5000 square foot mansion and trips around the world.
July 13, 2017 at 2:53 PM
Lol!
It's significant, don't you think, that all your conjecturing, which you and other self-perceived investigators in this blog irresponsibly engage in daily, has been either ignored or overlooked by "incompetent" detectives?
Do you really believe that? If YOU have thought if it, rest assured detectives have considered it and are way ahead of you in investigating it.
If LE wanted the house left alone, you can bet, it would not have been cleaned. Mentally placing myself in that situation, I would get that place professionally cleaned as soon as I possibly could. I would not step foot back in the place until it was, especially because of a child. This is an example of why you people are not crime solvers. You don't let evidence (including SA) speak for itself. You contrive your own and insert your personal perspective, but since we are all different in our approach, that is a major failing in your "investigation."
Making the evidence fit your preferred theory is your downfall. It's as if you assume this crime has not been investigated, except by a handful of commenters in this blog.
As I say....ridiculous.
Lol, anon @4:53, who are you trying to convince that we're all ridiculous, the posters OR you?
If LE wanted the house left alone, you can bet, it would not have been cleaned.
LE probably never dreamed anyone would be making arrangements to have the house professionally cleaned while everyone was gathered around Amanda's bed in the ICU.
Mentally placing myself in that situation
Is that like taking mental snapshots of things out of place?
Looks like anonymous Brenda is only here on weekends and days ending in "y". Part of the reason I posted the DeOrr Kunz rantings is to demonstrate that despite LEs investigations, some people are not arrested and charged or even named a POI in a crime, for years, if ever; even though the evidence speaks for itself - to investigators and "pathetic, basement dwelling sleuths", alike. LE sometimes makes mistakes, in the early stages of an investigation. Evidence is lost. In the Kunz case it was because the crime scene was processed as a missing child scene. Sheriff Bowerman also later regretted the release of one of the 911 calls, and refused to release the others. The crime scene was contaminated. If LE didn't make mistakes there would be no such thing as a cold case - which it is beginning to look like the way it's going for poor baby DeOrr. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that. But comprehension is obviously not a strong suit with her. Perhaps that is why Brenda is not a crime solver. She doesn't let the evidence speak for itself and then makes wild assumptions about what others think before, unbelievably, castigating them for them for thinking it. Ridiculous doesn't even begin to cover it. For the (broken) record, the 911 call made by crazy Davey has not been released because it it part of an active investigation.
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Blackburn had no intention of setting foot in that house again before it was cleaned, but to have it done the day after the murder, is suspicious. He had no intention of ever living there again, so remodelling the bathroom in the murder house...well I guess that was just so he could make more money when he sold it.
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Does anybody know anything more about the $15,000.00 donation made by anonymous to the Blackburn fund (with thanks from the anonymous donor) before the page was hastily and unceremoniously removed?
Perry Noble:
"I think I broke every commandment but one — I didn’t kill anyone, but I wanted to."
What does it mean when one says "I met Christ"?
In Perry's theology, you can break all the "rules", keep on sinning, and it's OK because you have a "relationship" with Christ. No wonder his church sells.
About that book....
Someone on crazy Daveys Insta wrote " hear your book comes out soon?"
DaveyBlackburn: the original release date was supposed to be November 7th. It may get pushed back now. We are waiting until Amanda's trial is finished out to honor her and the judicial process. We'll get it out there as soon as we can.
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The book is being delayed to honor Amanda. Pass the salt.
Nothing Is Wasted: A True Story of Hope, Forgiveness, and Finding Purpose in Pain
Front Cover
Davey Blackburn
Simon and Schuster, 1 Nov. 2025 -
"It may get pushed back now." says crazy Davey. Pushed back? Pushed forward! 8 years. (To honor Amanda and the judicial system).
I think it's possible that money/bitcoin cryptocurrency that was provided by (a connection to) Me2l/Brenda paid for the "dark" hit on Amanda.
OK, here is a shameless speculation question for the anonymous poster -
Would a child who was Weston's age at the time of "this little bit of chaos in his life" remember if he saw his mom "in the condition she was in" on the morning of November 10th ?
Would he remember where she was, her location in the house?
Would there be a chance that if Davey and Weston (with or without Ashley, Derek and Meg) were living in the Sunnyfield Court house, Weston might spout forth "this is where mommy was" and ruin the "Weston was upstairs in his crib, um - Weston was still upstairs - I could hear Weston's soft coos from behind the still-closed door - his door had not been touched - your mommy tucked you into bed and kissed you goodnight and that was the last time you saw her" stories?
I wouldn't want to live in a house where such a horrific event (an event that was obviously quite different than "something going horrifically wrong with, uh, the pregnancy") had happened either.
But is there more than one reason that they moved?
Bobcat @9:18, you'll send poor anonymous Brenda crazy with comments like that.
Flightful, luckily, 15 month olds are unlikely to remember things, even traumatic events. I hope Weston can't remember hearing or seeing what happened to his mother.
Having said that, in an Australian case, Mark Galante executed his pregnant wife, Jody, in front of their two year old. Galante told people that Jody had gone missing from a shopping trip to Parklea markets. Their 2 year old child said " daddy went bang and mummy went flop". and that "mummy is sleeping up in the area", to Jody's relatives, but, for obvious reasons, that held little weight with law enforcement. He was later convicted.
It is my perception that there was some kind of cover up. I have never heard of a case where a house is released the same day back to the family. Especially when they didn't even have a suspect at the time. The fact they said Davey was 100 cleared within a day or two while he promotes his alibi on Facebook. No 911 calls released. Three low level thugs thrown in jail when it is obvious this went higher up. The husband was obviously acting bizarre, immediately marketing the situation and leaving town to South Carolina while the poor neighbors held vigils. Did any police officer pay Ole Davey a visit after he posted a sermon of himself shooting someone in church? Nah, I just wonder what it took to get it swept under the rug.
There is a new DataLounge thread (thread #8 ! ) with a lot of activity over the past few days - a decent summary for those just entering this journey
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/19181685--smoking-hot-pastor-s-wife-killed-after-failed-robbery-part-8
Today's Pretrial Conference results:
Parties are not requesting trial at this time IN EITHER CASE.
Jalen Watson is in deadlock protective custody. He will have a "quick" hearing on 9/1/17.
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I don't think the slow justice in the Blackburn murder (and attendant crimes) is a coverup as much as it is a lengthy unraveling.
"I have lost a daughter and learned a lot during that time about grief and things people say that are well intended but rub salt in your wounds. I love Jesus and His word but there's no Romans 8:28 bandaid that you can just slap on someone in the midst of such a tragic loss with a gaping wound."
^^^^A mother posted this on the prayer page set up for the little girl killed this week in my community. I thought how interesting that she is pleading for people not to give the grieving parents the Romans 8:28 band aide during such a tragic time. I agree. That is why I found it shocking for Amanda's husband to slap that Nothing is Wasted crap up within hours of the brutal attack. A stranger is asking friends and acquaintances NOT to say this to the grieving parents while Amanda's own husband was ready to throw it out there while she was beat up, bruised and fighting for life in the hospital.
Bobcat, I don't even know what to make of that and Jalen Watson. Solitary confinement and a quicky trial in September. What in the world?
Bingo, in addition to the Nothing is Wasted crap, Davey also slapped Romans 8:28 up in his initial statement and also had it engraved on Amanda and Evie's gravestone.
There is no way to prepare yourself for circumstances like these. As deeply as I am hurting, I am hopeful and confident that good things will come of this. I rest in the truth of Romans 8:28 that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and who are called according to His purpose.
Very accepting of what happened - and very quickly. The contrast is amazing compared to the mother of the little girl in your community. Maybe the Levi Lusko video that he said helped to prepare his heart leading up to Amanda's death was more helpful than anyone could have imagined.
I believe he even posted #nothingiswasted a few hours after she was shot. I guess he posted it right before he set up his own gofundme page and polished up his public statement.
https://twitter.com/resonateindy/status/796824165290418177
Of course he had to tweet it again one year to the day after.
Respecting the judicial process has nothing to do with that book of his (with the same title) not being released as originally scheduled. I wouldn't be surprised if publishing company withdrew its support and wants nothing to do with Davwy, with everything that is coming to light.
Flight, either that or Davey realizes his big mouth is going to be his downfall. He seems to have lessened on the interviews and PR tour he was taking. When he does speak at one of these conventions, his sermons are usually not available online. My guess is that he's feeling the heat.
Davey realizes his big mouth is going to be his downfall...
I am almost positive that it already has been his downfall -his big mouth combined with his lack of information given to 911 that morning which held off IMPD arriving at the house until IFD Engine 12 called them.
The hammer just hasn't fallen yet.
If the right people have seen and read all of the coincidences and activities and Davey's statements (conflicting and not) surrounding the events of November 10th, it's obvious to them (and everyone) that there is more to the story.
It is obvious to posters on many more sites than just this one. Read the comments from the YouTube videos and web write-ups surrounding the crime - DataLounge - comments following the GMA interview - it goes on and on.
LE cleared him 100, no 150% before anyone had been arrested yet - based on a cursory interview at Methodist Hospital and his being seen on camera at THE GYM - maybe including Kenneth Wagner's tweet about loving his weekly conversations. None of these rule out Davey's involvement, masterminding a hit, knowing it was going to happen.
It was a HUGE slip up when he said in his introduction to the Levi Lusko video that this video had helped to prepare his heart leading up to Amanda's death - and then switched it really quickly to say that the Lord had used it to um, comfort his heart in all of this process. DOH !
You don't need anything to help prepare your heart for an unexpected, random, out of the blue home invasion during which your wife is assaulted and shot.
Preparing his heart leading up to a death from leukemia or another fatal disease - sure. But not this situation - saying that a video helped to prepare your heart indicates foreknowledge.
And this is just one of the slip-ups - - seriously listen to Davey's statements repeated over and over in his appearances - statements of "my first honest thought was that something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy" conflicting with "pray for Amanda, she has a head wound" - - "I had no idea anyone had been in my house", "had no idea there were gunshots" - - - when everything was scattered around and it was obvious that Amanda wasn't in the condition she was in because of herself, Weston or Mel.
Anyone who is seeking the truth about what happened that morning will realize that Davey's truth and story should be the same every time, to whoever he spoke or texted, in whichever interview he was doing. And it hasn't been.
The truth will be the same EVERY TIME it's repeated. Details might be added or left out, but the crux of the story will be exactly the same if speaking from experiential memory. It's not like a poster wrote upthread that there are five or six takes like in the movies and each is slightly different.
Davey made a major mistake in his carefully orchestrated plan when he diverted from what he told Detective Perkins at Methodist Hospital on the morning of November 10th about the Swisher Sweet package not belonging in their residence - how can he then say he had no idea anyone had been in his house?
Thinking about it - maybe the reason Davey was "cleared" so quickly when we all know there was no way he could've been - was because IMPD already knew he was behind this BECAUSE of the impression he gave in the 911 call.
- continued next post -
- continued from previous post -
Obviously not hearing the call yet, there is no way to be sure. But if a husband says "injured and unconscious" to 911 dispatcher (whether those were his exact words or not, the APC states those words) and he didn't include "and there is a ton of stuff scattered around, duct tape, her shirt is pulled up and underwear is off, someone has been here" (not in those exact words) - then it's not rocket science to think that he would've immediately been a suspect and the delay since then has been to build a case.
The anonymous and named posters here who keep saying that if Davey was involved, LE would have moved in on him already are grasping at anything to convince themselves that the walls aren't going to close in and the ride isn't going to end.
I and others feel that it's just a matter of time.
And the gang members being in custody - that helps IMPD. Sure, maybe they had an image problem that they were unable to control gang violence and then they captured these three in the immediate aftermath of the burglaries. Maybe they were only connected to Jacola Searsbrook's and Alison Becker's burglaries - but it cost IMPD nothing to hold "these guys" for Amanda's assault and murder, get them off of the streets - while they were / are quietly investigating the mastermind.
Haha
Wrapping up the case to indict Davey without one reason to think anything there has changed. How cute. Granted, your stories have evolved, but they're just that....stories. They have nothing to do with reality, LE, or DB, and you can't "wrap it up" with a conclusion simply because you want to. It's obvious you sleuths are not on the same wave length with LE. There is a big chasm. I'm pretty sure LE doesn't know you handful of self-appointed (for fun and games) investigators exist.
This is your fantasy world.
"Anonymous said...
Haha
Wrapping up the case to indict Davey without one reason to think anything there has changed. How cute. Granted, your stories have evolved, but they're just that....stories. They have nothing to do with reality, LE, or DB, and you can't "wrap it up" with a conclusion simply because you want to. It's obvious you sleuths are not on the same wave length with LE. There is a big chasm. I'm pretty sure LE doesn't know you handful of self-appointed (for fun and games) investigators exist.
This is your fantasy world.
July 16, 2017 at 7:38 PM"
Apparently, it's your fantasy world too, huh?
It's a fantasy world for anyone who thinks Davey's conflicting statements haven't been brought to the attention of the Marion County prosecutor's office, the investigative reporter with whom Amy Smith has been in contact, the defense for the "thugs".
It's even more of a fantasy world to think these conflicting statements (which still have not been explained by Davey OR anyone who cares enough to speak for him) are just being blown off and completely ignored by LE.
I'm pretty sure LE doesn't know you handful of self-appointed (for fun and games) investigators exist.
Dare to dream.....
They know we exist.
crickets....
To summarize anonymous Brenda's position: " I don't know what happened; or whether DB is involved in his wife's murder or not. I just know that, whatever you think (blog owner, bakers dozen and commenters) you are wrong. All of you. I don't know how I know. I don't know why I know. I just know."
Is that right?
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The handwriting matches someone, and it's not Amanda. Locals know.
Could it match Meg's handwriting?
These posts compliments of DataLounge -
Etsy Nanny knows a lot more about all this than she has ever revealed. I somehow think she's always been the missing link (and possesses the "smoking gun"). In my fantasy, she has the missing pages of Amanda's diary that reveal all (a la Laura Palmer on Twin Peaks).
—Anonymous
My favorite little tidbit about Meggs is when she announced on her Etsy page that the shipping on her wooden pieces of shit would be delayed due to the tragic passing of her friend, blah, blah, blah ... and then in the very next sentence slithered right back into sales mode announcing what specials she was running and what was on sale.
It's like the whole weird gaggle of them are doing their best to impersonate how you're supposed to act when you're "grieving," but their true selves just keep shining through
—Why did you move out the week before Amanda was murdered?
Wasn't Megs also conveniently no longer living with the Blackburns starting only a few days before Amanda's murder? I can't believe that the Indy police have not put this one together. Someone should literally email them all these threads. It's all right there.
—Anonymous
Yes, [R36]. Megs moved in July to live with Davey and Amanda and take care of Weston. As noted, she conveniently moved out a week before Amanda's murder.
—Nothing to see here
^ Moved to Indy from South Carolina
—Anonymous
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/true-crime-addict-and-the-problem-of-internet-sleuths/amp
“True Crime Addict” is a strange beast—one that embodies every problem that arises when online obsessives are infected with delusions of detective grandeur.*"
Thanks Flightful. Some of the comments from DL are erroneous, MG moved out of the Blackburn home in early September.
anonymous Brenda @ 8:45. Is it the weekend already?
anonymous Brenda@8:45, I'll see your article and raise you this one.
http://m.ranker.com/list/crimes-solved-by-the-internet/jacob-shelton
Trudy, how do you know when Megs moved out of the Blackburn home? Thanks
My question is why Meg even came to Indy. Why would they need a nanny? Amanda was stay at home mom. There are so many layers to this case, probably many we can't even imagine. Has anyone listened to the podcast S-Town? There are so many strange facets to the case that keep changing and twisting. I am not done with it, but it is fascinating. Can you imagine a podcast about the Blackburn case? Starting with Nanny moving to Indy, gun sermon before the murder, Nothing Is Wasted marketing within minutes of the shooting, radical changed appearance of the pastor, worldwide travel and exhaustive self-promotion. I would love to see someone go to Indy and do a story on this case from the side of all of us who think it is one of the most bizarre cases ever.
Three still using "promotional" photos to sell Amanda's death:
Davey.Amber.Robin
The last two in one photo < Amanda by herself
See here: https://www.facebook.com/blackburndavey/photos/a.1214728805206174.1073741828.1187322304613491/1622619037750480/?type=3&theater
Diano's pretrial conference results:
Parties not requesting trial at this time.
Additional discover filed.
Next pretrial conference scheduled for 9/15/17.
Taylor is 8/25 and Watson is 9/1.
I wonder what the news at Newspring will be this evening?
*discovery*
Is Watson still in solitary and quick trial on 9/01/17? What are your thoughts on why he chose this? Is he being threatened or planning to spill something?
Is something going on with Newspring?
What is up with all the podcasts? Didn't the family already do a couch session with Davey? Dragging them through it again? Just odd. Does it not have anyone else to interview? What about Amanda's friends?
Hi everyone, thanks for the update, Bobcat. I'd really like to know why Watson requested solitary, too. There is a limited number of reasons why someone would request, what is essentially, a punishment.
@11:49 two words. Social media.
Bingo,
They are not conveying.
They are convincing.
Trudy, one word: link @11:49 :)
The outline is pretty tight, but the delivery seems troubled at times.
7/20/17 Davey speaks at Momentum Youth Conference.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/7202017-momentum-youth-conference.html
"I had no idea what had happened because she was pregnant with our second.
IN OTHER WORDS: DAVEY LIKELY KNEW WHAT HAD HAPPENED BECAUSE AMANDA WAS PREGNANT...
"( ) Called the paramedics. Seemed like an eternity before they got there. Finally took her to the hospital."
Eternity...
Finally...
How long did Amanda wait? Should she have been taken to the hospital on Monday?
From Davey at the Momentum Conference "I share Amanda's story, and hundreds and thousands of people meet Jesus. Every week."
Embellish much?
but the delivery seems troubled at times
Like here ?
My fifteen month old, at the time was up in the crib during, upstairs, while everything happened and.
Up in the crib
during
upstairs
while everything happened
and
So awkward for a public speaker with a communications degree - especially for a story he has told countless times before. This is yet more evidence of Davey's need to persuade that Weston was upstairs the whole time. If it's true, should he be able to say it fluidly without repeating and stumbling?
I've not watched the video but it looks like stumbling through this sentence - says Weston was "up in the crib" and "upstairs" - "during" (what?), "while everything happened".
Weston couldn't have seen Amanda during the murder and while everything was happening because he was up in his crib the whole time (behind the still-closed door cooing softly). Please.
Amber also uses the phrase "everything that had happened" (ONLY a few days before).
or this?
"I had no idea what had happened because she was pregnant with our second."
"So I thought something horrific went wrong with the pregnancy, when I found her."
These above two statements make absolutely no sense when spoken together literally within seconds of each other as Davey spoke them in this appearance.
Adding "because" in this statement in this appearance makes a major difference.
Amanda was pregnant with their second - if he's going with this story, saying she was pregnant and that he thought something horrific had gone wrong with the pregnancy (as opposed to something going horrifically wrong) - that does not go along with his saying he had no idea what happened.
And in many more appearances he says his first honest thought was that something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy - so in these appearance, he DID have an idea of what had happened to her - if he's sticking with that story - - she was pregnant, and we just lost the baby right here, but um. In spite of all the evidence that an intruder had been in the house.
The "I had no idea" statement, up until now if I'm not mistaken, has only been used to indicate that he had no idea anyone had been in HIS house (not their house, which I hate that he says "my" house and "my" son).
Please keep talking.
And the hundreds and thousands of people meeting Jesus. Every week. because of Davey sharing Amanda's story? -
is a pipe dream. It's what he WISHED would happen.
And I don't buy any of the "nothing is wasted" stories that were appearing on the blog (but aren't anymore) from people whose lives were changed because of Amanda - or testimonies from prisoners who knew Amanda in grade school - or the other guy whose existence is questionable - or from someone who used to sit next to her at Starbucks (I made that one up).
Davey is trying so hard to spin Amanda's execution into a beautiful quilt and excellent-tasting cake, you see, although there are ugly threads and bitter ingredients in both - the outcome is working together for good. Because see how many people have been saved because THIS happened? He says that exponentially more people have been impacted by Amanda's death than she ever could've hoped to impact had she lived. Selling it.
It goes on and on and on.
It's not working.
And yes agreed Bobcat his choice of words of "what had happened because Amanda was pregnant" is revealing as well.
The combination of "I had no idea what had happened" "because Amanda was pregnant" makes no sense.
But this phrase as spoken at the Momentum Conference -
with the use of the word "because"
ties "what happened" to Amanda to (reason being) "because Amanda was pregnant"
But this phrase as spoken at the Momentum Conference -
with the use of the word "because"
ties "what happened" to Amanda to (reason being) "because Amanda was pregnant"
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^^ This.
It also makes Amber's story from 11/13/15 of Amanda "conquering" make perfect sense.
The target may have been Amanda's pregnancy. They couldn't reconcile. Davey wanted the pregnancy gone so he could focus on Resonate and not have to get a real job to support his growing family.
But Amanda "conquered". The baby's heart was still beating as Amanda lay dying.
He drops so many pronouns in the 7/20 Momentum retelling.
His retelling is, for lack of a better word ... broken.
Is he tired of the lies?
A previous comment (since removed?) spoke of Davey not wanting Amanda's pregnancy to interfere with Resonate - and that he wouldn't want to have to get a "real job" to support two children. I believe this.
Remember that Amber chose the words "how she (Amanda) broke the news to Davey about" the new pregnancy. I wonder how long it took her to get the nerve to tell him. It certainly did not sound that it was a hoped-for, happy announcement to be made.
Motive?
Question: Did Davey speak at Amanda's funeral? I remember Scott Peterson not wanting any part of speaking at Laci's New Year's Eve service and instead hiding in the crowd. I would assume that Davey, being a pastor, her husband and a guy that's used to public speaking, would have given a nice, long tribute. I couldn't find anything on google. And he can't say that he was too distraught to give a speech. The man did not shed one tear during his cross-country press tour,
Perry Noble spoke at Amanda's "celebration of life" / funeral - Davey did not.
He sat on the front row by Kenneth Wagner and listened to Perry Noble talk about how beautiful of a man he (Davey) is.
He tweeted Nothing is Wasted during it and gave instructions beforehand on Facebook to those attending it about what they should say if anyone from the press/media tried to talk to them - damage control/ controlling the story in advance already.
Quote here -
I know that Jesus is going to make good come from this, so in the event someone from the media tries to speak with you, simply respond by asking everyone to join us in prayer for my family. You can let them know that we have extremely heavy hearts and although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come.
link here -
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1255104761181936
You can let them know that we have extremely heavy hearts and although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come.
These are almost exactly the same words as the two Resonate Church Facebook posts announcing Amanda's "situation" (death). It's not convincing anyone to have to say how tremendously you are hurting - when in the same sentence you are already looking for (hoping and believing) great things that are still yet to come.
Sigh
Ho hum
Yawn
So now, we're rehashing from the very beginning.
Ok. See you geniuses next week.
Let's start at the very beginning. A very good place to start (tm Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music)
It is strange and unexpected for someone who suddenly and unexpectedly lost his wife to have to convince the public with repeated statements that he is hurting. Not only hurting, but hurting "tremendously". From the very first day, he had to say it, post it, drive it home.
Combine this with the way it happened - in Davey's situation - his home was "invaded" (through an unlocked front door), his wife was assaulted and beaten to the point of being unrecognizable and shot three times - there's no need to repeatedly say how much it hurts unless there is a need to convince.
Tremendously.
It is more unexpected that Davey would be planning / expecting that media personnel might be interviewing and speaking with people who were there at the celebration of life service to pay their respects to Amanda. It's bizarre. He probably wanted the media to attend - maybe invited them- yet he wanted to control the story going out- not having random renditions and variations of what he said that morning being said by different people.
I bet he never thought Perry Noble would say during his "eulogy" (which was also actually a celebration of Davey) that Davey told him Amanda had a head wound when he texted him that morning - he wanted to be clear that Davey said nothing about a miscarriage or home invasion or beating or gunshots.
So all of the Resonate Church Facebook page readers were instructed to say to the media that "we" are hurting tremendously as well? And that even though they are hurting tremendously, they are still hoping and believing that the best is still yet to come? Talk about being force fed some feelings. That phrase has been so overused throughout this whole "process" or "bit of chaos" that was "devastating to, uh, the family".
Thanks for that link, I remember being taken aback by the "In addition to meeting together at our normal service times, we are going to focus on celebrating Amanda’s life later Sunday afternoon" So cold and callous. Service first, later Amanda. Then the promotion from Amanda herself. This is what she would want! As many people watching as possible. Whether Davey every gets charged with anything, this is a book or movie already. Creepy!
Trudy said...
anonymous Brenda @ 8:45. Is it the weekend already?
July 19, 2017 at 8:50 PM
Oh dear. It would appear you bumbling sleuths have targeted the wrong anon. I am the one you call Brenda, and I did not post that link (good one, though).
BTW, I deserve a high-five for your confusion, since my real name is not Brenda. Chew on that one for a while. Legitimate, competent sleuths should be able to figure it out. I'm sure Peter would be more than willing for you to hone your skills on discovering my real name, then post it here on his blog.
Naw. Crime-solving is not your forte, much as you'd like it to be. A mystery will forever be a mystery for you incompetents.
Be careful now, you are talking about my boy!
Does anyone else notice that when we're on to something here, ie why Davey of all people wouldn't speak at Amanda's "celebration of life", then Anon tries to steer the conversation to whether or not she is Brenda, Davey, etc. It's a detracting tactic that has worked in the past but not lately and Anon seems more desperate to bait people into a back-and-forth with her/him than before. Anon won't address questions we have (Why didn't Davey speak?) but instead posts the usual "you people have nothing new" and "who do you really think I am?". Pretty transparent.
For those who followed the Mark Redwine case and grieved
that he might never be arrested and held accountable for the
death of his son, this is our week!
Remember all those years ago when people (including Mark)
sneered and said there was no evidence and that he would never
be charged?
Peter's Statement analysis nailed Mark early.
Hey, Davey, it ain't over 'til it's over, Bud.
2:03
I hope you paying it forward didn't fund the "hit" on Amanda.
And Mark Redwine denied any involvement in his son's murder- for FIVE YEARS.
Davey has never denied any involvement in his wife's murder or any knowledge / foreknowledge that it was going to happen.
He has had many chances here and elsewhere (multiple chances during the initial media blitz) to say he had nothing to do with it, to answer questions and explain why his stories and what he "honestly thought" keep changing.
He has not.
Peter's initial statement analysis nailed him early too - subsequent posts cemented the questions that Davey might have orchestrated this while scenario.
^ Davey might've orchestrated this WHOLE scenario ^
Carefully.
Anon @ 2:03, I kept picturing Rumpelstilskin, rubbing his hands and dancing in the woods, when I read your comment.
Vavara,
It's alarming when one of the biggest hotheads on the planet calls someone "Crazy", yet coddles and funds them.
Could Forensic Accounting at Newspring reveal the (possible cryptocurrency) money trail to Amanda's execution?
Well, I got up…I’m gonna’ say somewhere around 5:30 or so,
TG:
Mmm hmm.
62:28
MR:
made coffee, sat around, you know, tried to make as much noise as I can to kind of gently stir Dylan and wake him up and get movin’ in the right direction, and you know, as 6:30 rolled around which was the target time for me to leave to go take care of my business,
62:46
TG:
Mmm hmm.
62:47
MR:
you know, Dylan isn’t responding to any of that, so, you know, I’m hollering his name, I’m, you know, whistling, doing all the things that I would normally do when I’m trying
62:56
TG:
Mmm hmm.
62:58
MR:
to get him awake. You know, again, and you know I do it in a gentle manner, and I’m not gonna’ go startle him by any means and…and have him wake up and be all alarmed. So, I spent probably 35-45 minutes maybe even close to an hour trying to get his attention and I couldn’t get through to him, and I wasn’t too surprised by that necessarily, because part of the conversation that we had was that he had been up to 4:00 a.m. with his friends the night before, and then he had spent the majority of the day in the airports traveling to get to Durango,
63:35
TG:
Mmm hmm.
63:36
MR:
so I didn’t find it at all odd that he was so tired that it was difficult for him to want to wake up at 6:30 in the a.m.
63:45
TG:
Did that irritate you at all? Did that make you frustrated were you just, Hey, it’s just typical kid type stuff?
63:53
MR:
No! It’s typical kid type stuff. This is the same thing that he and I go through every time he spends time with me, and, you know, where he’s…he’s hard to get to sleep and hard to get up, I tend to be the opposite. I go to bed earlier, I get up earlier.
64:07
TG:
Mmm hmm.
64:08
MR:
and I’ll pace around the floor, I’ll turn the music on, you know, I’ll holler his name, I’ll get something cooking on the stove, and, you know, he wakes up when he’s ready to wake up, because this is the way he has always been with he and I.
I lifted this from a WS interview with MR, in 2015
The lack of detail, the total absence of direct speech to the victim, the deflection, all remind me of DBs morning (from 4:30 am - 6:10am) with or rather, without, Amanda.
What was DB doing for over an hour and a half on that morning? He didn't check Weston, he didn't feed the dog or let it out to do its business, he didn't even have a coffee. Why not? Everyone is different, sure. But when Most people get up, they'd check on the baby, let the dog outside and then have a cup of coffee. He did none of those things.All he did, he says, is "spend some time in the word" and grab his inadequately packed gym bag.
He didn't speak to Amanda or kiss her goodbye. Just nothing. It doesn't make sense. It was supposed to be his "long day" but subsequent comments by him say that all he did on Tuesday's was write. Also Amanda "never let" him schedule appointments on a Tuesday evening, it was family night. It's so contradictory. He gets up at 4:30, and basically does nothing except go to the gym and talk on the phone, until 8:30, on his "long day".
Anyway, just wanted to say MRs account of his morning with Dylan reminded me of crazy Davey's morning.
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I'll try to find the quote, but MR said he didn't think Dylan was anywhere near MRs home. Shades of Cindy Anthony.
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It's well worth reading Peter's analysis of MR's statements again.
In crazy Davy's latest sermon, he (unashamedly) talks about how angry he was that he was forced to change his airline seating.
One gets the feeling that he is very easily angered, (like most malignant narcissists), and that he gives voice to his self righteous anger.
How glaringly obvious then, is his complete lack of anger at those who murdered his wife and unborn child?
Eg. "The first time I felt any sort of anger was when arrests were made and I saw their pictures in the paper"
What a conundrum.
Trudy,
Davey kissed Amanda goodbye on Monday morning when he rushed into the bathroom while she was "getting ready".
The only other appearance she makes in his stories is her (possible death rattle that sounded like) laughter "ha ha ha ha ha ha" on Monday night, and WAS STILL going on when he got home from the gym on Tuesday, and after what seemed like an ETERNITY, Amanda was FINALLY taken to the hospital.
Amber - She hungers and thirsts.
Robin - And I, all I could think about was, she was on the floor unconscious, and she was pregnant with her second baby.
Phil - In fact, if I had my way, you would never see me up here, because I wouldn’t have allowed this to happen to give me a place to have to come and speak about this.
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Who had their way that overruled Phil and allowed
THIS
TO HAPPEN
TO GIVE HIM A PLACE
TO HAVE
TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT
THIS.
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Combined with Davey's recent statement, Amanda was killed BECAUSE she was pregnant with their second baby, TO give her FATHER/DAVEY a place (platform) to have to talk about her death.
Phil says he would not have allowed it. Davey says God allowed it.
Perry Noble may be drinking himself to death.
Perry Noble went on a FB live rant yesterday about what leaders at Newspring said about him last Friday. Too lazy to look what was said about him but here's his FB rant, complete with eyes bugging out and fist slams. He said the last time he spoke to Brad Cooper was November 18, when Brad sent him an encouraging message. This probably had something to do with Amanda.
https://www.facebook.com/nobleperry/videos/1430041557084331/
Davey's hero, PN, getting bashed by Newspring: "Biblically Unfit to Preach"
"Despite Perry Noble's return to preaching after successfully completing rehab, leaders of NewSpring — South Carolina's largest church — say their founder, who was fired from his job as senior pastor last July for alcohol abuse and other "unfortunate choices and decisions," is still not biblically qualified to preach.
"We have been asked why Perry can preach at other churches but not at NewSpring. We cannot speak for other churches and how they make decisions. For us, Perry currently does not meet the biblical qualifications of a pastor, teacher, shepherd," NewSpring Teaching Pastor Clayton King told the megachurch in what was described as a family meeting last Friday."
http://www.christianpost.com/news/perry-noble-still-biblically-unfit-to-preach-newspring-leaders-say-193080/
Perry has been avoiding his accountability partner Clayton King, and drops pronouns when referring to sobriety.
I transcribed his video at the Blackburn Discussion blog.
Bobcat @3:41. I know. Davey gives a lot of details about Amanda and her location in the house, and what he said to her, and what she said to him, and what she was doing, the morning before her murder, but zero, zip, nada about the morning of the murder.
He provides lots of irrelevant information about Monday morning but nothing at all for the (relevant) morning, the morning of her murder.
Monday morning is not irrelevant.
I wonder if Amanda's phone records show that she was at Trader's Point, Mawmaw's, Starbucks and other errands (according to Amber) on 11/9/2015.
Apparently, Amanda also packed up some Christmas treasures after decorating her beautiful Christmas tree, according to Amber.
Trudy,
Davey gives LESS detail about Monday than Tuesday. Amanda goes silent on Monday morning.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-silencing-of-amanda.html
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*IF* my suspicions about Monday are correct, either Amber is a grand fabricator of reality or she is/was heavily coerced.
Amber's BFF describes her: The "Fab 5" Girlfriends
Amber and I quickly became inseparable-- we were two peas in a pod, bosom buddies, DOUBLE TROUBLE! We made amazing home-videos, wore ridiculous costumes in public, spent summer endless days frying ourselves at the beach, and from time to time (ie: often) wet our pants laughing so hard. I could always count on Amber for a crazy adventure or a good prank. At slumber parties, my poor dad couldn’t keep us quiet--we always stayed up way past our bedtime, “taking bites out of our health.” We were running partners (the annual Great Race on zero training and a big bowl of pasta), masters of secret codes (helpful for passing notes in class...), and the "Kent" champions of the world!!
http://theseibertstory.blogspot.com/2014/04/11-fab-5-girlfriends.html
Bobcat, how do you figure LESS detail.
On Monday, he's told us that he saw her on the floor beside the bed, on both knees in a posture of surrender and she spoke to him. "I was praying that God would use us in a really big way".
Later he tells us she was in the kitchen and that she spoke again, but he didn't listen to what she said, because his thoughts were "swirling" around his brain.
Later still he tracks her to the bathroom (the second time he had looked for her there on that morning) and kisses her goodbye.
On the evening of Monday he says that she took Weston upstairs to bed and that "was the last time" Weston saw his mommy.
later on Monday evening he says Amanda was in bed next to him and was laughing at "dumb instagram finds" in a way he hadn't heard before. Hysterically. He says she was happier than he'd ever seen her and it annoyed him, and he spoke to her." Im trying to read/sleep" (Presumably this would be verifiable by LE looking at her phone). That's it.
That is the last time Davey mentions a location in the house or what Amanda was doing until he finds her face down in a pool of blood, still breathing, in the living room.
As I write this I notice that a few of the crazy Daveys Monday references, talk about the bed and bedroom. On Monday.
Yet he has not said (what would be expected) that Amanda was in bed asleep, the last time he saw her. On Tuesday.
What Amanda and CD did on Monday is, to my mind, much less relevant than what Amanda and Davey did on Tuesday morning.
We don't know one single thing Amanda said or did on Tueday morning. And we know very little about what Davey did between
4:30 am - 6:10.
Please share his "kitchen" statement. I've not heard or seen it.
He doesn't say she walked Weston to bed on Monday evening. He says she did it "the night before" she was killed. That could be Sunday evening... He doesn't specify Monday evening. Therefore, we can't say it for him.
Davey says THAT night WE went to bed. Is this he and Amanda, or he and "we" having nothing to hide...? Even if they were in bed together, she is silent and had been so since Monday morning.
The words Davey uses to describe Amanda's "laughter" are prefaced with "like". He does not say "Amanda was laughing". Therefore, we can not say it for him.
The kitchen statement is in the "swirling thoughts" comment, IIRC.
Do you still think the Trader Joe video is tampered with or fake? Would Amanda's Maw Maw lie for Davey? It seems to me that CD would have to rely on the collusion of too many people and LE would have her phone records etc as part of the original investigation, surely.
I still think that Amanda was murdered by a hired hitman, probably LT.
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Some anonymous asked me recently how I knew when Meg's moved out of the Blackburn home, and it revived my curiosity about her, too.
The day of Amandas murder, on the 10th November 2015, Meg's posted some little round Christmas baubles she'd made, on Instagram, with the words Joy, Hope, Merry, and ....The Best Is Yet To Come. Weird coincidence to post that on the very day of Amandas murder. She also wrote a little comment about needing to borrow a Christmas tree to display them.
She's a hell of a red herring, if that's what she is. in 2015, she wrote on her nothing is Wasted (?!) Etsy store, that it was the first time she'd been out of ministry for 5 years (during which time she interned with CD at Newspring) She announced in July that she was moving to Indianapolis for 3-5 months to visit her "favorite church planters". She moved in with Amanda and CD, the first week of August. She moved out the first week of September, (Because Amanda was pregnant?) and 10 weeks later Amanda was murdered.
Ever since then she has taken over Amandas role. She has been with Crazy Davey and Weston, living with them, mothering Weston, and on the payroll as Davey's assistant. The " 3-5 months" visit has turned into much, much longer and looks it will continue, indefinitely. So, hmmm, yes. There are plenty of, what could be, red herrings in this case. She might be a big one.
Bobcat, would you link your blog for me, (again) please? Thanks.
I transcribed the swirling thoughts statement. There is no "kitchen" language. The blog link is a few posts up and I know you can find it.
You are very subtle.
Subtle? No. What are you talking about? I can't find your blog and I want to read the PN transcript. No worries if you don't want to link it again.
Re: the kitchen. I did say "IIRC - if I recall correctly". It appears I didnt. It makes little difference where crazy Davey spoke to Amanda, though. My point is that there are comments describing Amandas interactions with CD on Monday morning, whereas there are NONE on Tuesday morning.
(I do take your point that he does not expressly say Monday - therefore we cannot say it for him)
Found it. July 22 @5:05. Bookmarked.
Would Mawmaw lie for Amber?
She can't raise everybody's kids forever.
Obviously Amanda wasn't KILLED on Monday morning, because she was STILL breathing on Tuesday.
I believe that she was brutally attacked and silenced by Davey on Monday morning.
And the thugs were "allowed" to come to Sunnyfield Court and get arrested "for Amanda".
Blog links can always be found here:
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/
Bobcat, I don't think Trudy was trying to be subtle or whatever. She is just trying to wrap her head around this crazy case like we all are! Thanks for your latest post. It is very interesting the silencing of Amanda. The fact that she was beaten so severely really screams domestic abuse. No one shared the beating except Jono. We would never have known the severity if not for his blog. Amber said she looked beautiful with just a small bandage on her head. I have no idea what she has said in the podcast but I remember reading a blog where she said something like that. It also doesn't add up to the story that the thug shot her to avoid getting scratched. If he is trying to keep from being touched, one shot was all her needed. No need to beat her to an unrecognizable state and shoot her three times, ending with an executions short. Also, the non existent Amanda the morning of the murder? It really doesn't add up.
Another case of bobcat misinterpreting. Why would her analysts be any more accurate?
*analysis
From the podcast...
Amber time travels and remembers almost everything (except for when her mind can't process anything):
I have a really good memory, so I love to think about like details and how I felt in that moment, with Amanda, and how, she made me feel when she hugged me or, what she said and how – like I can truly go back in time and like, remember that.
And her facebook post from 11/15/2015 ... time to add the Epistle of Amber to the bible:
I, I mean, the first time I wrote was on Friday, which was November 15th. And I don’t know how I wrote that. I don’t know how, I put that into words, but God literally helped me, and so, I’m just thankful.
Deception Indicated.
From the podcast...
Davey: "We don’t have regrets. I mean, we don’t have these like, bitter volatile seasons that we’re looking back on, but it’s. They (memories) hurt."
Podcast: http://daveyblackburn.com/podcast-1/the-nothing-is-wasted-podcast-episode-01-e8lgb-arxe6
Amber: [Time stamp 37:39] "Did it have to be in her home, in front of Weston? I mean I know he was upstairs but did Weston have to be there?"
Amber's immediately saying I mean I know he was upstairs (meaning Weston)
after saying Did it have to be in her home, in front of Weston?
DOH !
reminds me of Davey's not so smooth "recovery" when he said God had used the Levi Lusko video to um, to help comfort his heart in all of this process
after FIRST saying that the video had helped to prepare his heart for this leading up to uh, Amanda's death.
Transcript here - from Bobcat's blog - link here
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/04/12715-through-eyes-of-lion-sermon.html
"Today we will not have a, we don’t have a live guest speaker that we’re bringing in, m-, mainly because I wanted to, I wanted everybody t-, to watch a message that has really, um, I think that God has used to prepare my heart for this leading up to uh, Amanda’s death, and has used, God’s used this to um, to help comfort my heart in all of this process. And it’s a, it’s a message that I posted a, a couple days ago on my, uh, social media feed, um, by Levi Lusko called Through the Eyes of a Lion."
Interestingly (quite interestingly), the link to the video containing these words is no longer working !
So Amber questioned on the podcast why Amanda's assault and beating and execution had to be in her home in front of Weston - and then thinks oh shit, did I just say that - then attempts to smoothly recover with I mean I know he was upstairs.
Of course he was upstairs.
Upstairs, up in his crib, still in his crib, in his crib the whole time, behind the still-closed door, his door hadn't been touched, he was completely unharmed, softly cooing.
Weston's mommy tucked him into bed and kissed him goodnight and that was the last time you saw her.
I should go back and make a list of all of the words Davey has used to describe Weston 's location and state of being that morning and the night before. And all of his descriptions of the door to Weston's room - still closed - hadn't been touched - another poster asked how he could possibly know that nobody had tried to enter Weston's room, that the door had stayed closed the whole time.
Total need to convince on Davey's part and this on the podcast looks like or is a slipup on Amber's part. The more these people talk, the greater the chance of something even more revealing coming out - leaking.
And what then of the news report/web writeup that said that the toddler (not exact words to describe Weston) was wandering around downstairs when emergency personnel arrived?
"Did it have to be in her home, in front of Weston? I mean I know he was upstairs but did Weston have to be there?"
Breaking it down -
Did it have to be in her home
In front of Weston
I mean I know he was upstairs but
Did Weston have to be there
I find it strange that Amber questions why "it" (everything that happened to Amanda) had to be in her home -
I mean, where does she think a random home invasion is going to happen ?
And to question why Weston had to be there - if she's talking about in her home- where would anyone expect fifteen-month old Weston to be at that time of the morning ?
If anyone was going to do this to Amanda, is Amber's question why did it have to be in her home -- (whether it was "in front of Weston" / or just "with Weston there" because I know he was upstairs) -- instead of elsewhere?
It's not like there was a choice of whether or not Weston would be around during this random home invasion in which Amanda was somehow caught up, beaten and assaulted and shot three times.
Or was there a choice - is Amber wondering if Amanda's departure from this earth HAD to happen, could "it"have been arranged (orchestrated, carefully plotted) to either happen elsewhere, outside the home - or else while Weston was away from the home at some point . .
instead of "it" happening
inside her home
in front of Weston
with Weston there
?
flightful,
The video should still be out there, but I have to find the new link. Resonate church redid their website a while ago and the links are different now. I haven't found that anything has been deleted yet, but only renamed and rearranged.
Both Davey and Amber have placed Weston "with" Amanda at the point of "goodbye" ...
And both times, they have been describing Monday, November 9th.
The podcasts were lengthy, but it is true - somethings ALWAYS leaks out. Robin is better at NOT talking, but even when she does, she says inappropriate things. Things that no mother should ever say. Same with Phil and something he said about James once. Those quotes don't help with the timeline, so I didn't transcribe them, but I feel so bad for Amanda that they are trying to make money off her death. It's SO DISGUSTING.
"I should go back and make a list of all of the words Davey has used to describe Weston 's location and state of being that morning and the night before. And all of his descriptions of the door to Weston's room - still closed - hadn't been touched - another poster asked how he could possibly know that nobody had tried to enter Weston's room, that the door had stayed closed the whole time."
Most of them are in the timeline. There is one section with most of the Weston quotes together. Look above/below the photo of the upstairs landing.
Sorry, so many posts.
I discovered one other VERY INTERESTING tidbit the other day.
From the timeline:
The CI stated (APC 11/21/2015) that they wanted more money. Larry and Jalen walked from 2830 Sunnyfield to 2812 Sunnyfield and entered the home through the unlocked front door. Diano waited at Jacola's car in the driveway of 2830. The CI said that Larry Taylor was carrying a snub nose .38 revolver.
News Article 11/13/2015: Police have collected key information from at least two of the victim's neighbors' cameras. One shows the suspect standing at the victim's front door.
Kurt Goff Live "According to FOX59 News ... The three men allegedly committed two burglaries before entering the Blackburn residence. Detectives believe the men entered the Blackburn home through the front door, which was unlocked. Watson and Gordan left Blackburn’s home with her credit card to drive to an ATM. According to officials, Taylor stayed out the house and was later picked up by the other two men."
Someone has mentioned this before. If Larry Taylor had killed Amanda, why would he be walking down the sidewalk yakking loudly into his phone?
If ANY of the thugs had been inside Amanda's house, WHY weren't there ANY DNA hits from inside the house? If it weren't for Jalen's spit on the sweater and the receipt left in Jacola's car, how would they ever have been connected to Amanda?
Soon enough we'll know. Jalen's in protective custody. Someone's talking.
Another quote from Amber:
"The morning that it happened, I remember leaving the house, and, I have no idea what was said, because we were like, I was just, panicking, and I’m calling Gavin and I’m telling him things over the phone about, her being shot, and, you know, things that I don’t know if I’d ever say in front- I would never say in front of my kids, but I didn’t even know who was around. I didn’t really care. And I remember Audrey, just, running up to me and I was sitting on the couch and I was like, we were trying to get out of the house and she just was hugging me, and she said ‘Mom, what happened?’ and I said ‘You just have to pray for Aunt Amanda. You just have to pray she’s gonna be OK.’ And I remember walking through the living room, and Reagan’s like, on her ipad. She’s like ‘See ya, Mom. Bye Mom.’"
The timeline has been updated to include podcast quotes.
Amber is flying around panicking getting ready to leave the house - says during all of this "I’m calling Gavin and I’m telling him things over the phone about, her being shot, and, you know..
Oops Amber .... (tm Bill Murray in Wild Things when he caught Neve Campbell in a contradicting statement...)
Davey has said multiple times that he didn't know there were gunshots, that he had no idea Amanda had been shot, had no idea there were bullets, that he found out Amanda had been shot when they were the hospital when the doctors told him...
So.many.times.
So how did Amber know to tell Gavin on the phone before leaving for the hospital "about her being shot" ??
"This is going to circle around and around until someone sees it who can and will do something about it, if they are not already. With all due respect, please get used to it."
I'm used to it. And? What good are you doing? Do you really believe your posts in this relatively obscure forum are useful or are even noticed? Serious question. Do you think you're involved in solving a murder? If so, how? Where are all your evidence and all your many theories going? What do you do with your theories and information other than post here?
So, when I use the term "circle," I'm wondering why the information is contained here. If it had any worth (and if LE were worth it's weight), wouldn't they take you seriously?
Do you believe that by doing nothing but story writing and posting it here, you're going to solve a murder, or is this just a hobby for you?
"Soon enough we'll know. Jalen's in protective custody. Someone's talking."
Lol
Oh really? But.....but......ALL this time you geniuses have maintained that would never happen (based upon your knowledge of movie and TV crime drama), because "snitching" is a death sentence.
It's going to be so funny when the content of the snitching is revealed and it doesn't incriminate DB at all. Will you ever admit you're wrong? Lol. Of course not.
How did Amber know before she left to go to hospital that Amanda had been shot ?
When Davey said and kept saying again and again that he didn't know she was shot - that there were bullets - that .
Can you explain, anonymous / hit dog at 2:43pm and 3:00pm ?
POut of context--bobcat's approach to analysis. I love how bobcat has been subtly corrected by Peter on a few occasions in various areas of error with her rash analyses, yet, it doesn't sink in.
Bobcat is careless with SA, often in error, and leaves a very poor impression of statement analysis in her irresponsible, relentless commenting.
Judging by the extreme drop in participants here, I'm sure bobcat has played a role in their waning interest and ultimate ridicule of something they originally found intriguing.
How did Amber know before she left to go to hospital that Amanda had been shot ? - and talk to Gavin on the phone about it -
When Davey obviously couldn't have told her -
Davey has said and kept saying again and again that he had no idea Amanda had been shot - that there were bullets - that he didn't find out Amanda had been shot until the doctors told him at the hospital.
Can you explain, anonymous / hit dog at 2:43pm and 3:00pm ?
This is a very revealing statement / slip up.
"Anonymous flightfulbird said...
How did Amber know before she left to go to hospital that Amanda had been shot ?
When Davey said and kept saying again and again that he didn't know she was shot - that there were bullets - that .
Can you explain, anonymous / hit dog at 2:43pm and 3:00pm ?
July 28, 2017 at 3:12 PM"
All that says to me is that you don't have the entire picture. In fact, you have only fragments, which presents a YUGE flaw in all the "analysis" that goes on here. It's why it's nothing more than fiction writing. You analyze, analyze, theorize, guess, fill in the numerous blanks, and just make up things to suit your theory.
You have nothing valid to analyze, and each one of you here customizes your analysis to prove or fit your theory....one of the cardinal no-no rules of SA.
Fido is barking.
"Bobcat is careless with SA, often in error, and leaves a very poor impression of statement analysis in her irresponsible, relentless commenting."
Wouldn't it be easier to say, "Bobcat, here's where I disagree with you." and then point out specifics? Your insults indicate that you have no argument.
From Amber's Facebook post that "God literally helped" her write -
November 10, 2015 : I was sleeping at my grandparent's house when I got the phone call. Amanda was found unconscious in her home and now in critical condition at the hospital. It was 9:26 am and I threw on clothes and jumped in the car.
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10207693899607269
But then in podcast Amber says -
"The morning that it happened, I remember leaving the house, and, I have no idea what was said, because we were like, I was just, panicking, and I’m calling Gavin and I’m telling him things over the phone about, her being shot, and, you know"
Amber's vivid memories from her Facebook post say nothing about Amanda being shot. "Found unconscious" goes along with "head wound". From what we know, Davey didn't mention gunshots to his dad, to Perry Noble, to Amber - he declares this is because he didn't find out until he got to the hospital that Amanda had been shot - that HE HAD NO IDEA there were bullets and that she had not "suffered a gunshot wound" as he said on the Resonate page - but THREE (one to the head).
So how did Amber know Amanda had been shot? This isn't statement analysis. This is pointing out what two different individuals said and seeing if it adds up. The timing does not work.
Davey claims he didn't know Amanda had been shot - and he was the one who had walked in to find her and had actually seen her, on the floor, on the scene, in real time.
So Davey tells Amber on the phone call that Amanda was found unconscious in her home and then Amber tells Gavin on the phone that Amanda had been shot? How did she know?
This is sort of like when the police interview the next door neighbor of a guy found dead in his home and the neighbor says "I didn't stab anyone" without the police telling him anything about the crime scene.
Fido says
Do you really believe your posts in this relatively obscure forum are useful or are even noticed?
That's assuming the posts made by anyone on this forum STAY on this forum - or that posts made on DataLounge or in response to web writeups and videos stay in the comment sections of those venues - or that Bobcat's blog is just an obscure blog that nobody in LE is reading, similar to this relatively obscure forum.
Again, dare to dream.
Fido's time might be better spent influencing Davey and Amber to pipe down and plug the leaks before this whole thing goes up in smoke.
^^
One of Deception Indicated's followers works for a Criminal Defense Law Firm in Indianapolis.
Flightful - I updated the Eyes of A Lion video link. It's still on Resonate's site.
Flightful,
Amber's quote referencing "the morning that it happened" shouldn't be assumed to be that she is talking about November 10th.
Crazy Davey speaking at another shamelessly money grubbing event.
themancavesociety"To a believer death is a shadow and we don't have to be afraid of our shadow." Thank you to @daveyblackburn for a powerful word that reminds us to workout our faith muscle, be dangerous, and that goodness and mercy follows us wherever we go!
LT, JW and DG are awaiting trial for "Felony Shadow" I guess.
In all I have transcribed from Davey, he says shadow only in these contexts:
Valley of the shadow of death
Beyond a shadow of a doubt
At least three times, he has said "death produces life"
Yet, at the mostly black man cave conference, he says death is a shadow.
I wonder what prompted the change in language.
Embellishment
4/15/2017:
"Amanda!!!!! I am so excited to tell you that Audrey gave her heart to Jesus on March 30."
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson/posts/10212354722324924
[Six weeks after March 30...]
5/13or14/2017:
"And so a couple weeks ago, Audrey and I were just, sitting, um, and they want to, they want to hear stories about Aunt Amanda, and, and how, our life growing up, when we were kids, and, what, all these stories of things we did. So every night I tell them a story, and um, we got on the topic of salvation and about how Amanda gave her heart to Jesus and how she did that. And it led into this incredible conversation about, about, um, just going to heaven. And, it was the coolest thing. She did not, get saved that night. I thought- She was so close and I thought she would, but then, her and Gavin sat down the next night, and, talked through it all and she said 'Dad, I really, am ready, to give my heart to Jesus.' And I truly believe she is."
http://daveyblackburn.com/podcast-1/the-nothing-is-wasted-podcast-episode-01-e8lgb-arxe6-bzccy
Davey sure does love to talk about being dangerous. I think Amanda would agree if she had not been silenced.
I was just reading Bobcat transript on what Robin Byars. She specifically commented that DB called her and said “I don’t know if she was up, hanging something or cleaning something, but, maybe the ladder fell on her head, but she’s got a trauma wound to the back of her head”. Ok so he went from saying that to now saying this: "um. I, I had just, thought in that moment that something terrible had gone wrong with, with her pregnancy." Also, I guess Davey was hoping no one would write about how beat up she was with half her teeth missing. There is so much lying, cover up and deception involved in this case.
Amber's kids are young. They don't understand death. etc. You think for one minute if they thought giving their life to Jesus would mean ending up beaten and murdered like Amanda they would want to jump in? They are probably scared shitless of Jesus now. When my niece was about 4, someone gave her a picture of Jesus and hung it on her wall, telling her Jesus would watch over her. She later cried to her mom that she didn't want "the Jesus man" in her room, as he scared her and was always watching her.
Great post above regarding only one of the thugs on the porch. Early on, after LE had reviewed surveillance video, they said they were going to find the person that did this. If they had video, there should have been two men entering the front door, according to the story told by CI. But they were only looking for one person, "the killer". Interesting.
"Surveillance video captured a mysterious man on the Blackburns’ front porch around the time of the murder. Police believe he is the killer."
And
"For the first time, Indianapolis Metro Police talked about the mounting evidence they've collected in the murder of a pastor's wife and how they'll use it to catch the killer. The evidence includes surveillance pictures from the neighborhood, clues from inside the house and now a possibly-recovered stolen car.
Officers at a press conference Friday morning had a message for 28-year-old Amanda Blackburn's killer.
"We're serious about this," said IMPD Chief Rick Hite. "We're coming to get you."
Chief Hite promised that police would not only catch the person responsible for Blackburn's death, but also anyone who helped the suspect.
"You need to give it up because you are going to get charged with a felony murder. So you need to understand that anyone and everyone connected to this crime is subject to go to jail," Hite warned."
The story goes...
God "allowed" darkness/the enemy/Satan to enter into "the men/these guys" to put bullet holes in Amanda because she was pregnant, to give Davey and Resonate and Phil a platform to tell Amanda's story.
It "had" to happen, according to Amber. Phil, if he had his way (but he didn't and is clearly pissed about it), would never have allowed it to happen.
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Every time I hear Robin say how "dark" it was, I imagine the Dark Darth Lord Noble from Newspring swooping in to control the story, and Davey & Phil sitting for the joint interview from South Carolina.
As Peter has said regarding Davey, he has his marching orders.
"Also, I guess Davey was hoping no one would write about how beat up she was with half her teeth missing."
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Interestingly, it was his brother who carefully shared that information with the world.
If anyone knows Davey's past, and what he is capable of, it's the family he grew up in.
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Davey speaks about tormenting his brother: "I mean, I, I, I had a lot of trouble with my little brother. I remember being the antagonist for a lot of my little brother’s issues."
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/04/sermon-432016-home-run-life-week-1.html
Bobcat would you please post the link to the podcast transcripts when you have a chance !
Robin says Davey called her and said “I don’t know if she was up, hanging something or cleaning something, but, maybe the ladder fell on her head, but she’s got a trauma wound to the back of her head”
He texted Perry Noble to pray for Amanda, she has a head wound.
I believe he told his dad it was a head wound too.
Amber says "the phone call" said Amanda was found unconscious in her home. Amber later says she was getting ready to leave the house after the call and was talking to her husband Gavin on the phone about how she'd (Amanda) been shot.
I cannot find Jono Blackburn's writeup right now (I would very much appreciate the link if anyone has it)
All of these renditions above - NONE OF WHICH have anything to do with a miscarriage - all of which make it look like Davey hid the truth even from those closest to him.
Davey says and keeps repeating that his first honest thought was that something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy, that she was pregnant with our second, that we probably just lost the baby right here but if we just get her to the hospital she'll be ok.
So why did he give the impression to everyone that it was a head wound from a fall? To Amanda's mom - to his dad - to Perry Noble - to Jono?
And how did Amber know Amanda had been shot and told Gavin about it on the phone - when DAVEY says he didn't know until they told him at the hospital?
Interestingly, it was his brother who carefully shared that information with the world.
If anyone knows Davey's past, and what he is capable of, it's the family he grew up in.
I think Jono wrote that to shed light on what really happened. Sometimes these cases break open when family members ask for or demand more investigation. Usually that is the family of the victim though, right? But Amanda's family is off in neverland either in complete denial of Davey's conflicting stories - or else protecting him for some reason.
They HAVE to see what he writes and hear what he says and know it doesn't add up or make any sense whatsoever. I seriously cannot understand their actions (or lack thereof). It's sad that total strangers on the internet are more interested in finding out the truth than Amanda's own family and friends.
Podcast Transcripts (some partial):
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/52017-nothing-is-wasted-podcast-parts-1.html
Jono's Blog:
http://apotheolotics.blogspot.com/2016/11/one-year-ago_12.html
Davey didn't mention "honestly" thinking something went wrong with the pregnancy until he was on stage with Perry Noble at Newspring in April 2016. Once that slipped out, he decided to stick with it.
Contemplating...
Legally, how would it work if a "hit" was actually ordered on Weston?
If the thugs showed up and Amanda fought and surrendered herself instead, would it matter who sent them to the home?
What if Amanda was going to leave Davey and he threatened Weston's life if she left him? And she put herself in the way and surrendered herself to save Weston?
Does the language support that theory? Davey said he only prayed for protection over Amanda and Evie...
From Fligthful: "I think Jono wrote that to shed light on what really happened. Sometimes these cases break open when family members ask for or demand more investigation. Usually that is the family of the victim though, right? But Amanda's family is off in neverland either in complete denial of Davey's conflicting stories - or else protecting him for some reason."
YES!! Just posting the gun sermon alone right after her funeral would me chasing the police down for full investigation of Crazy Davey. Instead they are vacationing, golfing and helping him push his agenda.
Thank you very much for the links Bobcat and kudos for transcribing the podcasts, I don't know how you listen to those whole things in the first place much less over and over again doing the transcription. Something does not add up, actually lots of things don't add up, when reading the words. And delusions of grandeur calling it a studio, like he's on a national stage.
About Davey not mentioning about losing the baby until the Newspring appearances in April - still, if he says his "first honest thought" when he walked in was that something went wrong with the pregnancy - then I am having trouble sorting out and understanding why he texted "head wound" to Perry Noble and led others to believe it was a fall and included to most everyone (Jono said his mom texted him and Tessa too) that she was unconscious but still breathing - - with no mention whatsoever of the unborn baby (from what everyone has written and said).
If he was really thinking that they just lost the baby, would he be saying/including anything like "I hope the baby is ok" or "it looks like a miscarriage" - or not.
Indeed, his initial statements (none of them) did not include their unborn baby - it was just "my wife was such a beautiful gracious loving woman of God" or "our pastor's wife passed away yesterday".
It wasn't until posters started asking why he never included the baby that he started including the baby. And then the baby gained a name - and became part of the story. It's like in the film A Few Good Men - the defendants were instructed not to use the decedent's first name when speaking about him - they were to refer to him as Private Santiago or Private William Santiago -
because once they called him Willie, it would resonate with the jury that he had a family and a mom who loved him or was concerned about him. Same with this.
In Davey's latest appearance - he said they (he and Amanda together) had predetermined to name her Everett Grace - but Amanda did not choose that middle name, he did according to the WTHR interview (he went ahead and decided on a middle name "to keep a little piece of Amanda in that").
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As far as Weston - was Davey shocked and surprised to find him in his room completely untouched, completely unharmed - and that's why it keeps creeping into his language? He didn't pray for protection for him. I found that so extremely weird too.
What dad wouldn't pray for his whole family if he was spending time in the word and in prayer at 4:30am on the couch - might as well include Weston while he was at it. What gave Davey the indication that he needed to pray specifically for protection for Amanda and little unborn Evie on THAT EXACT MORNING when a random home invasion (through an unlocked front door) happened - but not for his son?
Amber's talk of Amanda rising up and protecting the very life she had brought into the world just fifteen months before makes sense if there was a hit on Weston. Davey's dad too said that Amanda "charged into a bullet" (not exact words) protecting him.
But then he wasn't concerned enough for Weston to check to be sure he was ok, after walking in from the gym and finding Amanda in a pool of blood with everything scattered around her and knowing that clearly someone (intruders) had been in HIS house?
No matter how much Davey tries to say and repeat that he had no idea that anyone had been in his house - how can he honestly expect anyone to buy that load of crap - when there is duct tape and credit cards and earbuds scattered around, furniture turned over, Amanda is beaten severely with her shirt pulled up and underwear off and most of her top teeth knocked out and bleeding from three gunshot wounds - and he's taking mental snapshots of things out of place and said there was a Swisher Sweet package on the counter that didn't belong in their residence?
Amanda didn't do that to herself - a fall from a ladder would not account for any of this except for the ladder being turned over.
Please.
Just random (as in Pandora radio random) thoughts this afternoon.
But Amanda's family is off in neverland either in complete denial of Davey's conflicting stories - or else protecting him for some reason.
I believe they are protecting her/their image. It soils her/their image if she willingly married a guy who ended up murdering her. Also, they really are trying to turn the darkness into something good.
BUT, they are protecting a predator.
Why were Amanda's family on vacation without her and why did Amber come home early? Has this been discussed?
Anon@7:42
"Why were Amanda's family on vacation without her and why did Amber come home early?"
And
Why were Gavin's family on vacation without him and where was he?
Phil: My son and, and I have this kind of a, um, bucket list type of thing we wanted to do.
James: We were in a cabin outside of Yosemite which was a bucket list type of place for me to get to.
A bucket (water conveyance) list is a list of things to do before you die. It's interesting that both Amanda's father and brother use that phrase to describe WHY they were on vacation when they weren't asked.
"Why were Amanda's family on vacation without her and why did Amber come home early?"
And
Why were Gavin's family on vacation without him and where was he?>
I never understood the whole California vacation thing - was it another " #WilkByarsBurn vacation " thing ?
Until the above post, I didn't realize Gavin's family was in California too (without him?)
And I wonder why Amanda wasn't with them (and Weston and Davey too).
Phil and Robin live in Bristol (just east of Elkhart) - Amber and Gavin live in Elkhart.
It is strange that Amber came back from California earlier than the rest of the family (and with not all of her children? - I'm not sure about that) - - but also that she flew into an airport close enough to Indianapolis that Amanda could just drive over and pick her up. If it was Indianapolis / IND airport, that is roughly 170 miles from Elkhart depending on choice of driving route.
Maybe none of the airports closer (far closer) to Bristol/Elkhart had the right flight schedules or prices to / from California but there are far closer airport options to fly into and out of that area compared to driving all the way to/from Indianapolis.
It obviously makes sense for the family to fly into Indy AFTER the assault/murder happened and they found out about it - when they had to rush from California to gather around Amanda - in that situation they would've changed flights and done whatever to get to her as soon as they could.
But were all of them set up for flying to and from Indianapolis to begin with? - or else why did Amber leave the vacation / fly early and fly into Indy?
In time for "the family dinner at HER grandma's house" on the night that Amanda picked her up from the airport - which was the night before she and Amanda had THE BEST day together - which was the day they were supposedly seen together on surveillance video at Trader's Point (described by I think Robin as "Amanda's last physical appearance") - the best day together which Amber will ALWAYS remember - the day of which there is not a single selfie - no pictures of them together on cell phone ?
International airports near Elkhart, IN
90 miles: Fort Wayne, IN (FWA / KFWA) Fort Wayne International Airport
106 miles: Grand Rapids, MI (GRR / KGRR) Gerald R. Ford International Airport
117 miles: Chicago, IL (MDW / KMDW) Chicago Midway International Airport
129 miles: Chicago, IL (ORD / KORD) Chicago O'Hare International Airport
143 miles: Lansing, MI (LAN / KLAN) Capital Region International Airport
145 miles: Flint, MI (FNT / KFNT) Bishop International Airport
169 miles: Indianapolis, IN (IND / KIND) Indianapolis International Airport
175 miles: Detroit, MI (DTW / KDTW) Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport
196 miles: Milwaukee, WI (MKE / KMKE) General Mitchell International Airport
Domestic airports near Elkhart, IN
27 miles: South Bend, IN (SBN / KSBN) South Bend Regional Airport
56 miles: Kalamazoo, MI (AZO / KAZO) Kalamazoo/Battle Creek International Airport
90 miles: Fort Wayne, IN (FWA / KFWA) Fort Wayne International Airport
106 miles: Grand Rapids, MI (GRR / KGRR) Gerald R. Ford International Airport
117 miles: Chicago, IL (MDW / KMDW) Chicago Midway International Airport
To get to California from that part of Indiana - if flights were available and affordable from one of these closer airports, then IND would have been one of my LAST choices (unless Amanda and Weston and Davey were also going on the trip to California and then they would all catch the same flights together). But those three didn't go on the trip.
In light of the strangeness and time gaps/missing information and things that don't add up about Monday November 9th and Tuesday November 10th in both Davey and Amber's accounts of the scenario - I'm wondering why Amber flew into Indy when she did.
And I still would like to know how Amber found out so fast (before Davey even?) that Amanda had been shot and told Gavin about it on the phone - when according to Davey, it sounds like some time passed before HE found out what had happened. He said it wasn't until the doctors examined Amanda at the hospital and then talked to him that he knew there were gunshots, bullets.
Whatever. But if he's sticking to that story that he didn't know, then nobody else should've known either.
Davey called the family - - and Amber said "the" phone call (from who - it might not have even been from Davey to her) indicated Amanda was "found unconscious in her home" (same thing as the Affidavit for Probable Cause - "injured and unconscious") -or sometimes he reported a "head wound" - - but none of these calls or texts to anyone mention gunshots or assault or beating to anyone - when he was calling everyone to prayer.
From Amber's Facebook post - she was sleeping at HER grandparents' house when she got the phone call. Amanda had been found unconscious in her home and now in critical condition at the hospital. "It was 9:26 am and I threw on clothes and jumped in the car..”
From podcast - the morning it happened, she was panicked - started rushing around the house to get ready, fending off questions from her children about what had happened, and calling Gavin and "telling him things over the phone, about, her being shot and, you know, things that I don’t know if I’d ever say in front- I would never say in front of my kids”
The phrase that comes after “about her being shot and” -
And what? Beaten, teeth knocked out, assaulted with underwear off and shirt pulled up - things she doesn’t know if she’d "ever say in front - I would never say in front of my kids”.
Did she know more than just about Amanda being shot - before Davey said anything?
Or did Davey tell her ?
If he did tell Amber (who then told Gavin while she was panicking and rushing around to get out the door to go to the hospital, so that was very early on) - then he KNEW everything that happened in that house before he is letting on that he knew (saying he found out at the hospital).
And if Amber knew all of this before Davey, how did she know?
If Davey saw it to tell Amber, his story unravels that he had no idea there were bullet wounds and gunshots and that anyone had been in his house. And if Amber knows without Davey telling her, that opens up a whole other host of questions.
https://resonateindy.com/sermons/what-happens-to-you-when-you-die/q-and-a-with-amandas-family-part-1
50:00
Question: How do you stay strong when you’ve experienced such a traumatic loss?
Amber: I remember thinking. I think I said it to you [points at Davey], too. I, I told Davey. We were in the hospital and I said, ‘How in the world are we going to make it through like, the next 50 years without Amanda?’ And, I don’t even know what you said in that moment but later Davey was like, ‘We, we can’t think about the next 50 years.’ Um. You have to take it, just today and, god doesn’t give you grace for 50 more years. He’ll give you grace for today to get you through, just today. And so, there’s days I wake up and I’m like, ‘Lord, please just help me through today.' But then there’s days I wake up and I just thank [Davey wipes eyes] him so much that; it’s been 10 months and I, never stayed in bed, past like 8:00 with kids, but. And I just have had the strength and our family’s had the strength and, you know, I don’t know what I would do if Davey, or my dad, or my mom, or James or Angela or Gavin if, if any one of us decided that, this- [Davey wipes eyes again]. Not that it’s not worth it, but had, chosen a different path or chosen to be angry or chosen to, not respond, um, just, the right way or, chosen to follow jesus through it all, because that has helped me, more than anything. But, I am just so overwhelmed, and so thankful, um, and that jesus has given us the grace to, to, to make it this far and to follow through, on this journey, and I. Yeah.
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If
Davey, my dad, my mom, James, Angela, Gavin (note priority)
If any one had decided that
it's not worth it
or had chosen to take a different path
or chosen to be angry
or chosen to not respond, um, just the right way
THAT
has helped Amber more than anything.
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This is also very emotional because Amber's answer makes Davey wipe his eyes twice.
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Also, extra information.
But then there’s days I wake up and I just thank Him so much that; it’s been 10 months and I, never stayed in bed, past like 8:00 with kids, but.
According to Amber's 11/13/15, she was sleeping at her grandparent's house when she got the call on 11/10/2015. It was almost 9:30 AM.
There was a long, moving post today from Amber. It is Amanda's 30th birthday. Davey is with them all at the beach. Of course, no post from Davey wishing Amanda a happy birthday. Even if he tried it would be so not heartfelt and he would say "sure, Amanda would have been 30, but she is sipping drinks on a beach in heaven and I have now have a purpose and a platfrom. No mourning allowed guys!!!"#thebestisyettocome
Link to Amber's long moving (extremely over the top and flowery, as usual for Amber) post -
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson
I was driving home today with you in mind. This beautiful song began to play, and it reminded me of when I first heard these words. Someone sent this song to me the day after your life was taken. A day where my heart seemed to stop beating. A day that I didn't know if I would survive losing you. A day that I lost a part of my soul. I wasn't aware that music could breathe life into a person until these words did JUST that.
Of course this song would play on my way home today. I couldn't pick a better song to depict the way I feel in this moment. It's as if this song was written JUST for me and our family.
I own my cynicism 100%, but Amber and Davey have more amazing coincidences than I've ever seen for any two people - seriously. Of course this song came on when Amber was driving home today - the exact song someone played for her the day after Amanda was killed (actually murdered - which is the truth, not sugar coated like "her life was taken").
Songs come on randomly - the EXACT song they need to hear at that exact point in time - - things happen one year or four years or however many years TO THE DAY from other things.
Can you imagine the train of thoughts and memories that will be expressed for the two year anniversary on November 10, 2017 ?
Another subject entirely -
from the podcast - Amber again -
And, kind of like Weston. He just, it hit him one day, and, he was just. He- One day his mommy just never came back, you know.
Interesting choice of words - his mommy just never came back (came back from where?) -
as opposed to
his mommy was just gone.
Neither of which were what actually happened.
I am sad for Weston - when he gets old enough to discover Google, so much is going to be uncovered and discovered.
I finished some more transcripts from 11/24/2015 - only two weeks after "everything that happened" when "Amanda went to be with Jesus". Jalen and Larry were in court while Phil and Davey were granting interviews from Newspring in South Carolina.
Phil's interview by himself:
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/11242015-nbc-scott-swan-phil-byars.html
Question: What are your feelings, knowing what you know at this point today? How do you feel about them (the suspects)?
Phil: (Sigh) I’m not really sure (laughs & smiles), to tell you the truth.
Question: How are you …? And what scriptures are you leaning on?
Phil: ...My wife and I, Robin and I, we, we’re just, trying to, trust. Uh, I can’t, w- I can’t see my way through this.
Question: Where would your family be, without faith, going through this?
Phil: Hah. We’d be puddles on the floor. We’d be a mess. We’d be, at each other.
Davey's interview by himself.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/11242015-nbc-scott-swan-davey-blackburn.html
He talks about writing a book and gives Resonate's email.
Joint interview. Interesting body language...
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/11242015-davey-phil-at-newspring-inside.html
Joint interview. Interesting body language...
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/11242015-davey-phil-at-newspring-inside.html
NICE screencaps Bobcat ! Faces and expressions reveal so much.
I did notice how Amber put so many pics of Davey and Amanda (from the slide show she posted) as though they were so happy, perfect and in love, which anyone could see from the Love Song series and Davey's sermons before and after Amanda's death, this was NOT the case.
I noticed on Bobcat's link to the thugs' court information that Diano had asked for a received a transfer to another prison. He then asked for and received a transfer back to the original jail. He also made a motion pro se (by himself) for a speedy trial. It was denied because he has an attorney and the attorney would have needed to file it. Wonder what he's afraid is going to come out eventually?
Bobcat's overwhelming obsession with this case indicates possible involvement. I've noticed embedded confessions in a couple of Bob's posts over the past few months. Bob has even tried to make contact with some of the family as well as contacting LE with "new" information. Something amiss there.
The way comments are deleted here is revealing.
On the one hand, we have three or four commenters whose outrageous, mean, delusional fiction writing passes for analysis, and no comment is over the top/tasteless enough to delete.
On the other hand, we have a couple of anons who point out the ridiculousness and recklessness of the crazy posters' stories.........stories that are devoid of truth, are irrelevant, and therefore, lacking in sound reasoning. The Anons' posts will be deleted. I guess we don't want to offend the nut jobs here and by extension, Peter, since he has forged the path for the nut jobs to emote.
It's amusing, because the story telling and lack of SA strip away at any legitimacy this site may have had originally. It is now a very hokey parody of itself. Certainly, its credibility and the credibility of SA have suffered by anyone following "discussion" here.
Are you geniuses still working under the delusion that you're providing clues for LE through your hallucinatory ramblings? Something I don't understand.....if you're so bent on investigating crime, why have you never gotten up out of your chairs and pursued it, instead of living your lives on the Internet? Hell, you are too lazy to even take Peter's SA course(s).
Just an obsessive game.
Speaking of obsessed, "Anonymous" at 11:18
#dontgiveup
Speaking of delusional and hallucinatory, "Anonymous" at 11:18
Why am I not an investigator? I was busy fulfilling my calling of raising my children, something that was violently taken away from Amanda BECAUSE she was pregnant TO give Davey (and her father) a platform.
My skill lies in hearing and transcription. And those surrounding Amanda keep providing relevant and revealing material. While the stories keeps changing and they keep talking, I will be listening, and I will point out discrepancies. SA provides excellent direction on when to listen most carefully.
Many years ago, I transcribed a session for a psychiatrist, who recorded a young boy and his caregivers in his office. The little boy said "and then my daddy hurt me" on the recording. No one else in the room heard it, but I heard it on the tape.
#increasinglydesperate
The anonymous poster at 11:18 continues to make it clear that some of the posts here are hitting on some sensitive issues. This poster appears to care (deeply) about the outcome of this case. The vested interest is so obvious. Otherwise why not just let us idiot armchair internet sleuths ramble and talk between ourselves and ask questions all day every day until all of the trials are finished?
IF IMPD has their guys - IF the three of them randomly chose this exact house on that culdesac on that morning with no idea that the door would be unlocked and Davey would be at the gym (and the large protective dog would not be a factor) - and IF there is either no involvement in or foreknowledge of it from Davey and/or Amber or Meg or anyone else but "these guys" - then there should be no fear of the chatter here or DataLounge or anywhere else.
These lengthy and desperate attempts to quell the discussion point to sensitivity about the questions being asked here, the statements being discussed here, and the people who have had numerous chances to address the issues here but as yet have chosen not to do this.
It seems to me that completely innocent individuals with no knowledge whatsoever about what was going to happen to Amanda on November 9th and 10th in 2015 would welcome a shining light into every corner of this case - they would answer the questions about statements they've made and be completely transparent - because they would want to clear their names and end the speculation once and for all - end it forever.
And these individuals who are discouraging the discussion are only making it clear that those who post here are onto something.
The scenarios discussed here, if not accurate, must have some nuggets of truth - it will be two years in November and the discussion is not wavering, nor will it.
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And there is no way anyone (even Davey himself if he appeared here) can explain his continuing statements in multiple appearances that
(1) his first honest thought was that Amanda had experienced a miscarriage (in all of the various ways he has said it)
(2) that he had no idea anyone had been in his house
Rocket science is not needed for anyone and everyone to know that there's no way that Davey walked in from the gym after finishing up his phone call on the driveway with Kenneth Wagner that morning and honestly thought
(1) that a brutal beating resulting in cuts and bruises and multiple missing teeth, combined with massive bleeding from three gunshot wounds (one to the back of the head) -- was from a miscarriage
(2) that finding duct tape, earbuds, credit cards scattered around on the living room floor - a Swisher Sweet package on the counter - the decorative ladder turned over - Amanda's shirt pulled up and underwear off -- just happened without anyone else being in the house besides Amanda and Mel and Weston.
The severity and locations of Amanda's injuries alone make it clear that this was a major assault and not a miscarriage - no matter how it's spun.
Even if Davey says he didn't know the wounds were from gunshots (ok.. . . )
Let's say Amanda got lightheaded and fell, taking the decorative ladder and lamp with her on the way down ? (that's the impression Davey appears to have created when he got in touch with Robin and others).
Then can anyone explain how the extreme number of top front teeth were knocked out (thank you Jono Blackburn for shedding the light on this) - maybe if she spun around and fell forward in just the right way and hit her mouth on an end table - maybe.
But then how did she sustain severe head trauma to the back of her head at the same time as well - she would've had to fall and hit both her mouth AND the back of her head on something sharp enough to cause that type of trauma. Again, not rocket science to know that severe head trauma is going to look far different to paramedics, to doctors, to the medical examiner, to ANYONE - compared to a hit on the head from a fall - even if she did strike a table on the way down.
This is a good time to include the exact description from Jono's blog -
The top of Amanda’s head was completely wrapped in bandages, her face and neck were badly bruised and swollen, other scrapes and abrasions could be seen on her face neck and arms, one eyelid was bright purple, at least 3 or 4 top front teeth were missing, and her left arm was swollen and lacerated from near her elbow where the other bullet had entered to her shoulder where it was lodged.
Her shirt was pulled up and underwear taken off- why would Amanda do that to herself, in the living room ?
And that still does not explain all of the stuff scattered around and the Swisher Sweet package that for the hundredth time, Davey told Detective Perkins that morning SHOULD NOT BE IN THEIR RESIDENCE. Yet Davey said multiple times that he had no idea anyone had been in his house. It has to be to cover the 911 call, what was said and what was not said.
Page 14 and 15 of the Affidavit for Probable Cause linked here - page 15 says "David Blackburn stated that the Swisher Sweet package should not be in their residence".
https://www.scribd.com/doc/291143533/Affidavit-of-Probable-Cause-in-Amanda-Blackburn-Case
There's no way IMPD and IFD and FBI didn't put the pieces together that morning already - and if they needed more ammunition, Davey has provided it numerous times with his conflicting stories (what he honestly thought and didn't think - compared to the actual scene and what he told Detective Perkins) since then.
It's OVER.
I realize the above post is repeating what I've posted multiple times before - this is giving yet another chance for anonymous poster or Davey himself, even, to answer or explain it.
Unexplained, it points to deception and a coverup.
If Davey had said "my first honest thought when I walked in was that something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy"
and THEN said
"but then I realized she was injured in ways that there's no way a miscarriage would've caused that, and there was stuff scattered around all over - I knew someone had broken in"
then it would be completely different. His first honest thought being a miscarriage - what he thought as soon as he opened the door and saw her - that's ok. A stretch, but ok.
But it's where he goes AFTER his first honest thought that causes a problem in his story adding up.
He wouldn't even have needed to describe the extent of the injuries, the multiple top teeth missing, the purple eyelid, the scratches and scrapes and bruises. He wouldn't have needed to even know the wounds to the back of Amanda's head, left arm and shoulder/upper back were the result of gunshots.
But he DID need to say once he got inside and really looked at her, he knew something bad had happened and that someone had to have been in the house to have done this to Amanda. Not keep clinging to the miscarriage and nobody had been in my house stories.
I wonder if he said "miscarriage" on 911 call.
There IS a reason that IMPD did not show up at first - yeah I'll say it yet again. It's because IMPD had no idea anyone had been in Davey's house.
Interesting that you use the term, "fear." It's also funny how you project your sense of urgency and importance pertaining to this case. There is no open case. It's been solved. You delusionals have spent so much of your lives here prognosticating, fantasizing, and projecting that you have lost sight of reality.
Why is it so difficult for you to accept the truth? The scenarios you delivered in your previous post are not accurate--they are your version with a liberal slant of story telling to fit your desperately desired scenario.
Strange. Why do you SO want Davey to be guilty? Clearly, LE has ignored you and will continue to. How many years will you spend in the Internet re-hashing and repeating your old worn-out gibberish? You already sound as if you're mentally disturbed, unable to distinguish reality. Are you housebound?
I apologize if I hit a nerve (of course, I'm not truly sorry; exposing you is so easy).
It's OVER, alright, and how much more clear can it be? You may not like it, but Davey, the narcissist hypocrite, did not kill his wife.
The anonymous poster at 11:18 continues to make it clear that some of the posts here are hitting on some sensitive issues. This poster appears to care (deeply) about the outcome of this case. The vested interest is so obvious.
Anon @ 11:18 is closely tied to Davey and his "incessant talking".
Anon also rants very much like Perry Noble blogs...and there is a TON of material for comparison.
From Gary Welsh's (found dead in Indianapolis stairwell "apparent suicide" 4/29/2016) blog:
http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/search?q=davey
"One can't help but wonder whether negative influences from the church where Davey Blackburn once served as a youth minister followed him to his Resonate Church in Indianapolis."
UPDATE: So I received a menacing phone call this morning from Ware Shoals, South Carolina from this number: 864-618-0017. There was a male calling from this number speaking in a fake accent pretending to be my online computer service provider. Ware Shoals is just a short drive southeast of Anderson, South Carolina. Someone is trying to give me the Dr. Duncan treatment. Posted by Gary R. Welsh
How many years will you spend in the Internet re-hashing and repeating your old worn-out gibberish?
Until the questions are answered !
AMPLE opportunities, even today - to derail this whole thing, to end it - by answering the questions.
None of them taken.
REALITY is that Davey says he had no idea anyone had been in his house - when all evidence is to the contrary. There is NO WAY in the world that he could've walked in and not known.
From there, it's just an extremely short jump to asking WHY would the husband say this even once, much less multiple times?
Instead of writing yet another rebuttal attempting to discourage, anonymous at 3:39pm could have at least taken a shot at refuting my challenges and/or explaining why Davey's statements make sense.
That post does sound like a wanna be writer using big words (maybe one whose book release was pushed back indefinitely).
Davey's 2nd opportunity (after the "We have nothing to hide") to issue a denial:
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/07/11242015-nbc-scott-swan-davey-blackburn.html
Q: From early on in the investigation, police cleared you. Cleared you 100%, and yet there were people that still felt that you had something to do with it. How did that make you feel? And how have you, reacted to some people feeling that way?
Davey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean I, obviously it makes you feel hurt, you know. I mean, when you hear things like that, it, you know, it’s like pouring salt in a wound. And I wish people understood that. I mean, I wish. I wish people understood. People who, people who make those kinds of allegations clearly don’t understand the pain that you’re going through, in this. And if they did, if they really and truly did step into that, there’s no way they’d be able to say things like that. One of the things that we always, Amanda and I used to always talk about, in ministry, is the phrase our pastor coined. Love assumes the best. And so, so, any, anything like that is not. It’s not love, because it’s assuming the worst. It’s not assuming the best. Now I understand. I get it, that, that’s the first place that investigators are going to go. And then they’re going to, you know, weed out, all of the, all of those, but that’s the first place. I get that. I understand that. I wasn’t surprised by that. Um, but, but I’ve chosen not to react in those things either, because it’s not going to do me any good. Um, it’s not going to be, do me any good to give them a voice, give them a platform, because they’re not spreading anything but hatred. They’re not spreading anything but, um, but their own, um, vices and their own problems. And so what we’ve chosen to do is we want to make this about Jesus. We want to make this about Amanda, and we want to honor both in the whole process. And so, yeah."
Q: I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt.
Davey: No, that’s good.
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NO denial, but acceptance of suspicion.
And, people who suspect him are haters.
Davey with Steve Doocy on Fox - definite opportunity to deny any knowledge or involvement - he did not. And notice how quickly he changes the subject.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/11192015-fox-news-interview.html
Copy/paste of transcript by Lynda -
Steve: When we first initially ran this story about what happened ya know, we couldn’t believe it. Uh, initially though, as is the case, they always look at the husband however, the police came out very quickly and said you have been cleared of all of that. But still in the very beginning, to have the suspicion hangin’ over you, what was that like for a, a, man of God to worry about somethin’ like that?
DB: Yeah, I mean we, I certainly understand that’s always the first place that they are goin’ to ahm, investigate, and so I..I..guess that was to be, to be expected on some level. Um, ya know, but on another level, um, just going thru the ah, this, this trying time as a, as a, ya know with our family it, it, it, was, it was definitely difficult, um, to kinda even swallow that, um, and, and, so ya know for us, we’re, we’re, we don’t have anything to hide and we trust the investigation that’s goin’ on and the, the, (Interviewer is nodding yes) the detectives have been extremely gracious thru this whole process to us… Um, they’ve been really great in how they’ve, um, kept us up to speed on things that are goin’ on so , so we’re really appreciative of that.
Read the rest of the same transcript at the link to see some real stumbling and stuttering when Steve asks Davey about the gun that was found in proximity to their house and how it might be linked to Amanda's murder (that gun was actually PICKED UP from the lawn and taken to the fire department instead of the finder calling police - another red flag).
I would very much appreciate a link to the actual video of the Fox interview with Steve Doocy if anyone has it (I have it somewhere but not handy).
"Fear" wouldn't even begin to describe how I would feel
- IF I had either engineered/orchestrated/set up Amanda Blackburn's assault, beating and murder - - or else had actually taken part in it myself (any of it, or all of it)
- and then people were talking about it in various forms on the internet -- in multiple blogs and on Facebook pages, message boards and forums -- for twenty straight months with no sign of stopping. I would feel like the guillotine was about to fall at any minute, no question.
The tone of these most recent anonymous posts indicate far more than just a "leave this poor innocent pastor and his family alone, would you please?" level of interest.
I will repeat it again - if nobody who reads here is involved in this crime in any way and is not protecting someone who was, then why the intense interest and motivation in squashing ANYTHING that is said here ?
But fear of the chatter on this and other sites is logical if someone / anyone thinks it might uncover Davey or Amber or anyone else's involvement in Amanda Blackburn's murder - either directly or indirectly.
Anonymous poster asks me "why is it so difficult for you to accept the truth?"
We've not gotten to the truth yet. Davey cannot honestly expect anyone to believe he had no idea anyone had been in his house. If the truth had been spoken - and consistently spoken - about "everything that happened only a few days earlier" - from the very beginning, then there would not be so much ongoing discussion.
It's the lying and covering up - things not adding up - that make people so interested in following this case and shedding light on the inconsistencies.
Remember it took five years for Mark Redwine to be arrested for Dylan's murder - and he was denying it to the hilt from the very beginning ?
"Why is it so difficult for you to accept the truth?"
sounds like...
Why is it so difficult for you to buy in to the vision?
reminds me of this...
http://www.pajamapages.com/paranoid-pastors-prohibit-proper-perspective/
When followers must completely sell out to the leader’s vision, they dare not question it publicly. The dogged insistence on emotional compliance with vision even seems to infect Noble’s mid-level leaders. Note this account from NewSpring’s Creative Arts pastor (Shane Duffey):
"I had a meeting scheduled with a person on my team to discuss programing and communication flow on Sundays. As we went through the nuts and bolts of those things I sensed a frustration level in this persons demeanor. This led me to think that this guy wasn’t fully bought into the vision of our church and I began to question him – strongly – on his buy in level."
Slightly questionable body language earned this team member a first-hand look at NewSpring’s enhanced interrogation techniques.
Is there a Newspring boot on Phil's neck?
Hi everyone, This is an excerpt from a Mark Redwine interview. No denial, acceptance of suspicion, and that kicker of a tactic - that is so often used by guilty parties- attempts to change the focus away from himself and towards the victim. (And also, in crazy Davey's case, towards God)
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M: And you know everybody wants to focus on me but the focus isn't me right now. The focus is finding Dylan and that's where I'm at.
R: Why do you think people want to focus on you.
M: Well, because I think that's a natural part of the process and because you know, he was last seen with me and he was with me the night before. And you know, I saw him in the morning before I left to go run my errands. You know, that's the logical place to start. And so, it doesn't at all surprise me, you know that they searched my home yesterday because quite frankly, I was expecting that to happen a week ago. So, you know my opinion is that we're all a week late and in where we're at with this. So my focus is what do we need to be doing now to keep searching for Dylan and bring him home."
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(MR says the "focus" needs to be on Dylan at least 20 times in this interview. It's quite remarkable how guilty parties insist that everybody's "focus" needs to change. Eg "We want to make this about Amanda" as if suspicion of Davey's involvement in Amanda's murder is somehow not about Amanda(?!)
Davey just posted a new blog. VERY flowery. The writing sounds NOTHING like the Davey I have observed on the pulpit talking about how annoying people are to him, disgusting bodily functions and cross fit demonstrations. Here he goes again with how Amanda passed as though she slipped away peacefully as she slept. Cone on guys, She was brutally beaten up and riddled with bullets. He also loves to bring up the 7th year of perfection and how Perfect their marriage was and it had been there best year ever. This blog is over the top and not written by Davey!
"Amanda passed a few months after we celebrated our seventh wedding anniversary. Seven. The number of completion. The number of perfection. And true to it’s meaning, it was a perfect year. The best year we ever had together."
It sounds like it was written by Amber except without all the capital letters for emphasis.
Davey shows us who is on that stage and the above is NOT him. If it included an insult or jab toward an overweight or elderly person, I'd believe it to be him. If it was degrading Amanda, sharing a violent story or something of sexual content that appears to come from a 14 year old boy, it could be Davey. This blog is NOT Davey.
Has anyone ever heard the expression "a lion doesn't need to roar" ?
It's because all other animals know it's a lion - no need for the lion to prove it.
It's the same with relationships - and can be the same with convincing that someone who has "passed" is really, REALLY missed every moment of every day and ESPECIALLY when this or that happens. Like clockwork. Davey's blog post and Amber's Facebook post both do this.
This extreme need to persuade that all was unicorns and sunshine and palm trees in Davey and Amanda's relationship would be unnecessary if all really was unicorns and sunshine and palm trees.
There is also a very distinct need to persuade that the loss of Amanda has created such a vacuum in all of their lives.
Again, I will own my cynicism 100% but would they have had a 30th birthday party for Amanda on Silver Beach if it had to be kept off of social media completely ? - not with 35 pictures posted (which appear to have been taken down or made private) along with a poignant video of scenes of Davey and Amanda happy, the family smiling, concluding with little Weston (whose birthday was July 28th) singing "happy birthday dear (uh, with prompting from Davey) mommy" ?
It wasn't Weston's idea to sing "happy birthday to mommy" on video - no more than it was his idea to sit on Amanda's and Evie's gravestone holding a spray of flowers - or approach the gravestone in a suit with flowers in his hand - or hang an ornament on the Christmas tree with Amanda's name on it. These photo ops are so shameless and gratuitous - the coaching / prompting on the video is so transparent.
Grieve in private, guys - please stop trying to convince that nothing is wasted and we are coping so nicely with this because Jesus is our strength or whatever and we know that Amanda is better off. Drinking pina coladas (virgin ones) on the shores of heaven while laying out in the sun - sure Amanda was killed, but look what she GETS to do !
I absolutely hate it when these people keep minimizing what happened to Amanda - and saying the day she died was THE BEST day of her life (tm Amber) - and that she's having the time of her life after having gone through the portal to the party.
OK, vent over.
Link to Davey (or whoever's) flowery over the top blog post -
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/birthdays
Link to Amber's Facebook page about the Silver Beach b-day celebration -
https://www.facebook.com/amber.b.wilkinson?hc_ref=ARSeHe30ljPpbIvumjjJ9BXP7LLemIp2weA8w43bDOqdklNiScgrZcYzLK7zfxjZeuI&pnref=story
Davey has a bit of a conundrum. He's stuck between the miscarriage story and the "I didn't know anyone had been in the house". The sticking point is the Swisher Sweets, the credit cards strewn on the floor near Amanda, the duct tape, and the ear buds. Anyone who knew Amanda knew what a meticulous housekeeper she was, meticulous (careful, thorough, attentive to detail, "all in") in many areas actually by all accounts. If the stuff wasn't there when Davey left, Amanda wouldn't have left it lying around floor (and neither smoked). So there's only three other options: either Weston was up and pulled stuff out all over the floor (minus the Swisher Sweets), somebody had been in the house, or both.
Weston being up and downstairs is a problem for Davey, in terms of his Amanda the Martyr story he's packaged for promotion, publication, and consumption for a nice personal profit, no less. He can "excuse" himself for leaving the front door unlocked and his family unprotected by using Amanda as a shield. Kind of a "even if I did leave the door unlocked, which I'm not taking personal responsibility for ("she was going to get up anyway"-so it's her fault, she died defending Weston...see, he was unharmed and wasn't traumatized at all." mentality. He's playing a game of shells per see; Look at the Martyr and the cute little boy who lost his mommy, not at me.
Amanda being, for all intents and purposes, nude is another sticking point. Why would a panty-less Amanda be climbing a decorative ladder (one version)? Why would a panty-less Amanda be hammering anything downstairs while her baby was asleep upstairs still? Where would she have kept the duct tape and the credit cards while she hammered or climbed? What's missing from that story??? There was no hammer found in the living room or anywhere near her. Not to mention, if she had simply fallen, she'd have had injuries consistent with either a dead weight fall (the low blood sugar story Davey suggested) or attempting to catch herself because she was pregnant. Why would someone with a head wound take their panties off and lay them next to their body or try to pull their remaining clothing off (much less over their injured head)? None of that makes sense. Who does that?
So, why would Davey lie about that stuff? Why did he feel the need? Why does he want their family and friends, the police, and the public to think he's so stupid that he thought she'd miscarried or he thought she'd had an accident and hit her head, and he had no idea anyone had been in their house? His varying attempts to explain what he thought happened to Amanda are incongruent with his education level, life experiences, leadership training and positions, personal habits and hobbies, etc. Stupid and dumb, he is not. Clueless, he is not. Inexperienced at managing people and situations, he is not. Inexperienced at communicating an idea/concept/story to an audience, he is not. Yet he purposefully promotes himself as being incapable of determining whether someone has been in his own home or the extent of Amanda's vast injuries. Would you not have at the very least begun describing Amanda's injuries to the 911 operator, along with her body position, the lack of clothing, the scene (ladder down, lamp shattered, credit cards/ duct tape/wallet on the floor, blood everywhere)?
I'm not saying Davey murdered Amanda. I am saying his behavior is not normal, for Davey.
Yes, Fools, he could have at least described the scene to 911. They keep you on the phone most of the time to perform CPR or describe injuries and what can be done during the time the ambulance is on the way? What did he do? Did he stick to the story that it appeared she had fallen off a ladder. They had to have asked him some details about what he was seeing around him. I am sure they asked for description of her bodily state? I mean come on, did he really think Amanda would climb up the flimsy ladder that was barely strong enough to hold the blankets? And new groups and churches still ask him to come? Levi Lusko, did you really sit there and believe the bull crap DB was feeding you about it being a miscarriage but mental snapshots were taken just in case. Why hasn't that 911 call been released? Who stepped in to get Davey cleared so quickly, denied public access to 911 call and the house returned to the family. No way that is normal protocol before a suspect is caught. Trial keep getting backed up. This case just stinks big time.
We want the trial to proceed slowly. Right now, the thugs may not realize the magnitude of what is going to happen to all of them - life in prison. There already appear to be some cracks - Gordon wanted a speedy trial so he could say it was a botched robbery and Taylor killed Amanda on his own. The groundwork had already been laid that Taylor was going to rape someone and kill someone else but the good guy other thugs talked him out of it. Gordon was hoping to get a burglary rap and nothing more. Gordon is too connected to the thugs and doesn't feel he is going to be harshly punished so he won't say anything. He also appears to be somewhat legally savvy, as he wrote his own motion and also petitioned the court for a transfer on his own (in addition to writing the court a "letter" - wonder what he said?)
Taylor still hasn't figured out that he was set up and is the patsy so he will stay silent for now. Watson has asked for solitary confinement away from the general population. Watson seems to be realizing what's at stake. Plus, his sister is a strong influence on his life and is probably telling him to talk. He's our only hope to say what really went down.
Gordon was cooperating at first but then stopped so he wasn't charged with murder until January 2016...
The Marion County Prosecutor’s Office did not give a reason why the charges on Gordon came later. Prosecutors did give insight why Gordon is facing murder charges despite not pulling the trigger.
“If you participate in commission of a felony both a robbery and a burglary then you are held responsible for the actions of the person that pulled the trigger, and that is the theory we are working with under here,” said Marion County Prosecutor Supervisor Ryan Mears.
According to sources within IMPD, Gordon stop cooperating with prosecutors about the details of the case, and he refused to testify against Taylor and Watson. Sources within IMPD, say this decision by Gordon resulted in him being charged with murder.
In the past, the Marion County Prosecutor’s Office has charged accomplices with murder, but in some cases the murder charges were later lessened if those aiding in the crime agreed to testify against the suspects.
http://wishtv.com/2016/01/15/diano-gordon-faces-murder-charges-in-blackburn-case/
I finally transcribed the "What Happens When You Die Week 6 second service, with the family, from 9/11/2106.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/9112016-what-happens-when-you-die-week.html
Question: Do you think our loved ones, that we have lost, watch over us? Can they hear our prayers?
21:15
Phil: I hope not. Amanda’s never seen me in the shower, and I don’t want her now, seeing me in the shower. That kind of creeps me, that question creeps me out.
What an inappropriate and insensitive thing for Phil to say about his murdered daughter. I'm beginning to get a real creepster vibe from Phil (sorry, newer to this thread so not sure if Phil has always been this strange. Now, Davey, on the other hand...)
Girls do tend to marry men like their fathers...
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