Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 4996 Newer› Newest»"Sure it’s tough to reconcile why God would allow evil to invade my life the way it has. But what if what the enemy thought he was destroying, God was raising with a new ferocity. What if what the enemy thought he was killing was actually the very thing that would bring countless people to life."
"Sure Amanda was killed..."
Well, sure. You do need to be accurate so your SA will have credibility. After all, if you can't even quote correctly, how will that instill confidence in anyone who may be on the fence (GASP!) regarding your statement analysis? I don't think you will get a conviction that way.
Anonymous Trudy said...
That's right. He said "Sure, Amanda was killed but blah blah blah has been birthed WITHIN me." Thanks.
March 25, 2017 at 8:53 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well, sure. You do need to be accurate so your SA will have credibility. After all, if you can't even quote correctly, how will that instill confidence in anyone who may be on the fence (GASP!) regarding your statement analysis? I don't think you will get a conviction that way.
March 25, 2017 at 9:28 AM
In his most recent blog, Davey continues to spoon feed the story to his audience. He is sure sticking to the tale that if Amanda hadn't been viciously murdered, there wouldn't be this great revival of epic proportions.
"It’s very easy to focus on the destruction that has taken place in your life and lose sight of the destiny it’s setting up for you."
If people would read between the lines a little and stop trusting him just because he calls himself a pastor, they would see that he is saying that Amanda dying was his destiny. The destiny was "set up".
He is also going to continue to push the fact that God stepped back, let Evil creep in for just a bit.
"God gives evil just enough space"
He is basically saying evil came around just for a bit so that he could have new vigor and passion could be birthed in himself. I think that is where the whole shower sermon came into play right after Amanda "left to go hang out with Jesus and sip pina coladas". Yes, he did something evil but in the end it all turned out for good. She's happy and would never want to return. Weston lost her at just the right time. He now has fame, fortune and influence and God cleansed him and told him it was the whole thing was destiny while he was being cleansed in the shower.
"Sure, Amanda was killed, but through that a new vigor for seeing lost people find new life in Christ, a new passion for restoring hope to the hopeless, and a new tenacity for helping people break the strongholds that restrain them has been birthed within me."
I can't actually believe he said "Sure, Amanda was killed but...." The fact he is that insensitive and brazen makes you wonder how much longer Amanda's family will stick by him.
I love how he is trying to act like he has just now turned the corner from grief. That is laughable. This is the guy who said "The Best is Yet to Come" on the day she died and texted "Nothing is Wasted" at her funeral. What a joke!
He only had two comments on the blog. Where are the thousands, tens of thousands that he is supposedly reaching. I can't imagine how many negative comments he receievd bout his insensitive statement that Megs had to reject.
I also thought it was laughable that he wrote about going to South Carolina to escape the media frenzy. Ha! I remember seeing smiley, happy Davey all over the news the week after she died. While his neighbors prayed and met together that week and were trying to help the police find the killers, Davey left town and did interviews.
I'm guilt-free because I stepped away from God (to execute my masterfully plotted ploy) for a few minutes, but now I'm back.
Sure, I had Amanda killed, but that doesn't make me a bad father.
Weston won't remember her anyway.
He left Indy so he didn't have to talk to the investigators. Other than the visit with Davey i the hospital when he had Weston propped on his lap, has Davey given a formal statement to LE? Did he even have to go to the station?
I thought Davey went to SC, to Newspring Chirch, in order to do interviews sThey than escape the media. Amanda's dad went, too - as I recall at least one media interview was broadcast from Newspring - the Newspring people had facilitated them for Davey.
*rather than escape the media* ^
Davey went to SC not to escape the media, but to control it, with Perry's help.
Perry is an expert at image control, and he was the ONLY one (out of ALL the church contacts in Davey's reach) who dared employ "Crazy Davey" - basically because Amanda made him OK (and Davey was irresistably hotttt - as he couldn't resist talking about at Amanda's funeral).
Dead Amanda and Crazy Davey. Following his history leads straight to Perry and Newspring.
It was all about controlling the story.
Perry's taken his fall.
Escaping the media frenzy was the last thing on Davey's mind - he NEEDED the media frenzy to make Amanda's murder from a local Indianapolis issue into nationwide headlines so he could gather his following. The following who would eventually buy his books and album and T shirts - and fund his adventures under the guise of the "help the Blackburn family".
The story had to get out - and quickly. How else would the streaming "celebration of life which was actually nothing about Amanda's life" service come to be viewed by over 6000 people across the n-nation, uh, across the world (not exact words - but not the answer to George S's question on GMA either).
Clickbait doesn't even begin to describe it - young pastor comes home from the gym to find his wife brutally murdered while their fifteen month old son was in his crib upstairs. Killed by the very people she (they) came to Indy to try to save and help. Davey wrote that "Amanda's story has attracted national attention" on the announcement/invitation to the celebration of life service - how does he think it got national attention?
By him plastering his (smiling, laughing, smirking, completely dry-eyed) face all over Inside Edition, Fox News, Good Morning America, WTHR interview in two parts.
Davey says he had no idea that cameras were going to be shoved in his face - once again with the "I had no idea" - he kNEW ! Because he sought the attention. It's not like he was ambushed outside of Starbucks aka "work" by WTHR. He was perfectly prepared to be on camera in every single one of these interviews - flew to the cities, entered the studios, had his makeup done, and then proceeded to evade the questions and promote his agenda and try to look pitiful and sorrowful.
There are ways to avoid the media, not the least of which is declining interviews until a later time or having a spokesperson for "uh, the family" for whom it was so d- devastating.
He even wrote instructions in the celebration of life service that "if anyone from the media tries to interview you, you can let them know that we are hurting tremendously but we believe that the best is yet to come". Gotta keep that story straight - he didn't want people saying "we heard Amanda fell and hit her head" or talking about Amanda's "accident". He needed to control what went out.
Far too soon, before Amanda was even pronounced dead, to start taking about the emotions his heart had been forced to process and that all things work together for good and nothing is wasted and the best is yet to come. Sure, Amanda was killed. So matter of fact about it, even from the start - it was all about the story and how it could propel him into the spotlight and Resonate into massive growth (which hasn't happened).
I agree with whoever upthread said they wonder how much more her family can take of this.
UNBELIEVABLE.
Peter's analysis of Davey's Good Morning America appearance -
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/statement-analysis-transcript-davey.html
In response to the question of what police might be telling Davey about who might've done this and why-
Davey says -
Um, ya know, the ah investigators um, haven’t given me ah, a, ton of details that um, they’ve given me the details that they’ve released to, to the public as well, an, an so we, we’ve been really tryin’ to do over the past week is um, is, is, kinda figure out , we, ya know, how to grieve the loss an, an how to, how to move forward from here an how to work thru all of this , it’s devastating to the family an , and um, ya know the fu, funeral this past Sunday was just an amazing celebration of, of her life an, we just um, we were so grateful for, for friends and family comin’ to show support, and the nation um, there were over 6500 people tuned in across the world um, and, and, what was so great about Amanda is she was so selfless, that she didn’t want here life to be put on display ever, but she wanted Jesus to be put on display. We feel like that’s what happened at the celebration service, that Jesus was lifted up and people’s lives have been changed because of that.
It was actually over 6500 people, not 6000 - tuned in across the world - most of them directly because of the media blitz through which Davey sailed (not struggled) in the week following Amanda's murder.
Wow, I thought I had pulled up a months-old series of comments. But no....no....it's still discussing and repeating the very same words, sentences, phrases....
Are you people copying and pasting? Is there nothing new to this case that can be discussed? The
Hola Fido ! (also known as the hit dog. . . )
We (yes we) have already told you that there's no reason to fear this discussion (even if it's the same thing over and over and over) if Davey has no involvement whatsoever in Amanda's murder.
It's interesting to see which posts bring out the reactions and attempts to squash/ discourage (which posts contain what might be sensitive information or things Davey might not want noticed or called to attention?)
Fear? Is that SA? Any time someone disagrees with you and others and the fiction writing, It demonstrates fear? LOLOL.
Why does it upset you so for someone to disagree with you?
For the tenth time at least, if Davey is completely uninvolved, it would be SO easy for him to answer the questions asked here and elsewhere about his activities and Amanda's condition / whereabouts / behavior on the morning of November 10th.
Why doesn't he talk about her ? - instead of just repeating what HE did over and over and over - woke up at 4:30, it was my long day, spent some time in the word, grabbed my gym bag, headed out for a workout, finished my workout, jumped on the phone with my buddy Kenneth Wagner, sat on the driveway, went inside and found my greatest nightmare, Amanda lying on the floor in a pool of blood, had no idea someone had been in my house, honestly my first thought was that we just lost the baby, had no idea there were bullet wounds. . .
And yeah why after all this time does he still stutter and stumble over the story that should be so practiced and rote memory by now. It's obviously not sensitive or hard for him to talk about it, especially this many months later and because he can flat-out say "sure, Amanda was killed" - so why the continuing stilted delivery of HIS story?
Attempting to discourage discussion about this case, to me, absolutely demonstrates fear of something being said here to implicate Davey, to point or draw attention in his direction - something that SOMEONE one day (if they've not already) might notice. Someone other than us on the discussion board - someone who could find out whether or not he had anything to do with this - someone who could be sure justice is done.
Davey's actions and words are obviously not consistent with the actions and words of someone who had nothing to do with and/or knows nothing about who is behind Amanda's murder.
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Flightfulbird hit the nail on the head. It is the overwhelming urge to mock nearly every post disdainfully, on Amanda Blackburn articles exclusively, that expose the agenda. The need to shout people down, and then whine that rehashing is so boring. If it is all so annoying, why stick around? There are no complaints on the Casey Anthony articles that years old material is being reviewed again. There were no such complaints when Peter wrote 3 or 4 articles repeating the exact same analysis on the Deorr Kunz case. There are no complaints when the Ramsey case runs round again, though it is decades old. It is natural to re-examine what is known to look for what may be missed or forgotten, as we wait for the outcome of the trials that haven't begun. It is necessary (for people who find this interesting) to compare the new statements to what was said before. Davey is a public figure, and deserves our attention, doesn't he think so?
You didnt set me off, Hey Jude. Im just more than sick of gay people acting like they are so benign and that anyone who actually hates most gay men must also be gay. Gay people should realize there are plenty of people who have legitimate reasons to hate them and not trust them. I wonder how someone who was molested by a gay priest feels if they grow up and say "I hate gay people" and some &sshole says "That means YOURE gay".
Gay men should also realize that anyone who knows anything about their lifestyle would be disgusted. I think it's disgusting and predatorial how they categorize other gays by calling them "bears, twinks, etc". Most gay men have "PREDATOR" stamped on their forehead imo. They make it no secret that their "ideal" is molesting young men/boys. I do believe their are some nice ones, and those types usually settle down with a partner. The rest of them should be shipped to an island.
"Are you people copying and pasting? Is there nothing new to this case that can be discussed?"
As long as DB keeps stuttering about the day in question on video, and then publishing videos online, there will be discussion. This is Statement Analysis, after all, and DB loves to talk.
I have been reviewing old blogs and comments from before the thugs were arrested. They are oddly reassuring that police clearing Davey was a calculated move from the start.
I guess DB is not smart enough to get that.
Anonymous flightffulbird said...
Attempting to discourage discussion about this case, to me, absolutely demonstrates fear of something being said here to implicate Davey, to point or draw attention in his direction - something that SOMEONE one day (if they've not already) might notice. Someone other than us on the discussion board - someone who could find out whether or not he had anything to do with this - someone who could be sure justice is done.
I'm curious who is attempting to discourage discussion, and how are they attempting to do that? If your comment is aimed at me, you're way off base. Discussion does not always have to agree. I happen to see much error of interpretation in many things said here, so I point it out. I've never told anyone not to say whatever they want; however, I've been told to leave, to stop commenting if I'm not happy with some of the statements (which, BTW, is not the case). I've been asked why I'm here. I've been accused of being Davey (and others, which illustrates to me a certain level of disconnect on the part of those who think along those lines).
No.....I'm not the person who is "discouraging discussion." My opinions are mine and vary, often greatly, from the accepted dialogue that takes place among the clique of likeminded sleuths who regularly visit here, but, as I said, I haven't told anyone to leave or to stop their discussion. Once again, I have been told to leave on more than one occasion. I have, also, been criticized for holding differing opinions. The mindset here is that I must be Davey, and that, friends, shows a lack of realistic perspective.
Get in touch with reality. That would go a long way toward your credibility.
mom2many @ 4:25,
Did you get a screencap of DB friended with Treezy on fb before it was removed?
Fido,
I enjoy flightfuls streams of Davey's own words.
Flightful has a real gift for putting them all together.
Imagine if you didn't care at all about Davey. He is a completely unrelated stranger to you. Would you spend ANY time here AT ALL spewing insults at those of us wasting our time #nothingiswasted in this tiny little catacomb of cyberspace?
Let's assume Davey is unrelated and you are a standard flag carrying internet troll. Why here? Why not yahoo comments? Why Davey Blackburn? Why not Madeleine McCann?
I enjoy the comments here, too. They are intelligent, informative, thoughtful and often funny. Most commenters find it easy to disagree without being disagreeable. What do you think Fido? Want to learn some new tricks?
Just kidding. Fido should have been kicked off this site after she posted that link to derogatory comments about PH. Wow! Such rude. Many disrespect.
I'm curious who is attempting to discourage discussion, and how are they attempting to do that?
These comments in italics below - by various anonymous posters or maybe the same anonymous poster, without seeing IP addresses there's no way to be sure - are not the statements of someone who is just randomly trolling on the web. . .there is an agenda.
Wow, I thought I had pulled up a months-old series of comments. But no....no....it's still discussing and repeating the very same words, sentences, phrases....
Are you people copying and pasting? Is there nothing new to this case that can be discussed?
Fear? Is that SA? Any time someone disagrees with you and others and the fiction writing, It demonstrates fear? LOLOL.
Why does it upset you so for someone to disagree with you?
These statements above *appear* at the very least to be poking fun (which does not bother me) - and appear much closer to the poster outright saying "look away, there's nothing to see here, move along, please don't repeat these statements yet again because the more they are repeated, the greater the chance that they might make sense to someone, that someone will take notice!"
Why does it upset you for us to continue to discuss this case? Can you tell me how the posts above encourage discussion of the subject at hand? They do not.
It has been pointed out that you might be happier elsewhere on the web, for if you continue to visit this forum then no doubt you will continue to read things that bother you, that are repetitive, that discuss the case and question every possible angle of Davey's involvement in it.
Most of us are seeking the truth here - and the one who could enlighten us the most - Davey Blackburn - chooses not to. He just chooses to continue spewing his same story over and over and over, with a few details added or omitted, but NOTHING that supports that he wasn't involved (except for his saying he had no idea about anything - whether it was cameras shoved in his face, that anyone had been in his house, that there were bullet wounds - and that's not enough.
Why were the more recent versions of "his story" so diametrically opposed to what he stated in the Affidavit for Probable Cause?
I am sure there are those who wish the whole "Davey could be / was involved" mountain would just be cast into the sea (tm Megs).
But as long as Davey keeps talking and blogging (and changing his story), there will be something new to this case that can be discussed. And even if it's not new, it keeps the case alive. There is a core group here who appear to be (or are definitely) committed to not letting this case fade into obscurity.
Of course it's one person. The writing style is unmistakeable. Naughty fido @8:00. Telling fibs. Now gtfo.
A question from PH's latest blog made me think about Davey and his unwillingness or inability to issue a reliable denial.
"Just how far will someone go to avoid saying, "I didn't..." when seeking to deny without really denying an allegation? "
If your spouse was murdered, and trolls, shoe lint and unbelievably insensitive people implied or alleged that you had something to do with the murder, what would you say?
Davey seeks to deny the allegations by calling those who allege it, names. But Davey won't even say outright what, exactly, has been alleged (that he was involved with Amanda's murder) so he can avoid having to deny it.
Anonymous Trudy said...
Of course it's one person. The writing style is unmistakeable. Naughty fido @8:00. Telling fibs. Now gtfo.
How reasonable is it you think I'm the only anon on this blog. I'm not. I post a few times during the week and more on the weekends. I have no qualms about posting and none about the content of my posts, so I feel no need to deny it. You people are often wrong, and in this case you are. Go find yourself another anon--the right one. Use your skills (questionable as they may be) to analyze properly. If you can't do that, what are you doing here? You obviously haven't learned a thing.
And once again, I'm told to leave. Lol
Hypocrites.
9:04 Deception indicated.
The post from Anon @ March 19th 6:13 pm, with the link to derogatory comments about PH is still there. It reeks of a particular "style" and its pretty brazen of her to deny that she made the post.
I did not take screenshots. I saved direct links to profiles of several intermediary friends in common between Davey and Alonzo. Some were friends only in that month (Nov 2015). Some had been friends for a year or more. At least one was also friends with Amber and Robyn, but not Amanda.
Facebook stores its archives on permanent media (CDs). None of this is irretrievable.
I have a jpg from Jono Blackburn's Facebook page of "Snow Camp 2014" - I wonder if any of the individuals in it look familiar. Does anyone know how to embed a jpg here?
Flightful - you can't embed images in Blogger comments. If you have Dropbox you could upload it there and link to it. Otherwise maybe put it on a free image hosting site and post the link to it here. I think Imgur doesn't even require to sign up for an account to upload and share an image.
Thanks, I really appreciate it !
here it is on Imgur- Snow Camp 2014
http://imgur.com/a/W5StX
I thought this comment on the Nightline clip was interesting. It sounds like she knew one of the gang members. She thinks for sure it was a set-up by pastor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqusI_pqbGI
Jazzmen Bates8 months ago
I'm born and raised in Indianapolis. I went to school with the one boy in this.. he was alway quit..we use to call him teeth.. that pastors was involved... anybody in they 20's from whites to blacks knows each other... ima put it like this in that area ain't no way.. they had security cameras they wouldn't have done it.. quick money ain't always good money.. YOU know you had her killed period.. they need to blood drug test his ass the same day not later cause he might go to a smoke shit and clean his system..smh
I went back and watched that crazy GMA interview. DB sure had no interest in finding Amanda's killers, did he? Wow. George S was trying to aid in the search but Davey just kept changing the subject. He was already pushing the story. So many people tuned in online and people were saved. Amanda's poured her life into others and lived her life to see people come to Jesus. George S looked baffled. He expected a grieving hubby (taking a break from his grieving) to plea for help in finding the murderers. Instead he gets a smiling, well groomed man only interested in pushing numbers and already selling the story that Amanda was killed so others could be saved. "She didn't have an enemy in the world." Yes, she did. He was sleeping right next to her planning her demise. Davey was planning the little bit of evil that would need to creep in so he could reach his destiny.
"It’s very easy to focus on the destruction that has taken place in your life and lose sight of the destiny it’s setting up for you." DB
How long will he get away with his words and actions? Surely, those closest to Amanda must be getting weary of hearing that their precious daughter's murder was such a positive thing for Davey. Who will write her story and honor her life?
I meant precious daughter, sister, friend. Would someone close to Amanda please listen carefully to what Davey is saying. Stand up for her. Fight for her legacy. Can they not see she has faded almost completely from the story?
I get the impression that Ashley and Derek Barrett are really nice people. Did anyone suffer through the tonight show sermon interview?
Ashley talks about her passion to work with inner city kids and a tutoring program that she was involved in. Davey, drunk on narcissitic supply, tells the audience that he sent her on a wild goose chase to all the outreach centres in the vicinity because resonate wasn't ready to do anything.
How does she stand him? How has Derek not punched him in the face?
Why do you think the first time davey felt any sort of rage was when arrests were made and he saw some photos? Why didn't he feel any rage when he saw the (same images) surveillance footage of the Larry Taylor, Jalen Watson and Diano Gordon?
Davey Blackburn shits me to tears.
RIP Amanda Blackburn.
Trudy, I did watch the interview with Ashley. Yup, DB pretty much said he sent her around to do a bunch of busy work to shut her up for a bit. How do people not see the con artist that is Davey Blackburn? And they live with him?? He knows how to manipulate the easy manipulated. He keeps telling naive people that they are part of something so huge. He seems to know who he can fool and is becoming quite the cult leader feeding people with false doctrine. Resonate is the chosen church rising up from the sacrificed Amanda. Amanda is quickly fading from the story and it is now being twisted into Davey's destiny.
Anon, agree with you 100%
Let's take from the top.
Amanda was laughing at dumb instagram posts while Davey was trying to read/sleep. Then what?
Trudy, she was laughing at dumb instagrams. Next thing you know, she is lying in a pool of blood. No other mention. He never leaves out the pool of blood.
Hey Bingo. Exactly! But it was "Busy work" at outreach centres. Homelessness drug addiction, alcoholism, violence. That useless idiot, Davey Blackburn sent an young woman out into dangerous territory. For what again? A wild goose chase?
Does Davey have any supporters that aren't on his payroll?
Bingo, Jazzmen Bates also said this"
Jazzmen Bates8 months ago
there wasn't any other raps just robberies. I went to school with them. I'm born and raised there. ima put it like this our police suck ass.. they was paid to do it.. dress like that in that area ain't gonna happen.. they had to be told when it was clear and what time frame neighbors wasn't there.. you don't just do a crime like that in that area without peeping out the surroundings and activities.. police would have been called on them asap
Davey sent Ashley to do the outreach work because he was doing outreach at the gym.
Bingo @ 9:19,
Ashley may have had her suspicions about DB.
Last June 5, Davey was out of town at Kensington Church, creeping out Clint Dupin. He is on camera self-hugging and covering his mouth while Davey spoke.
Then on June 12, Ashley was caught on camera also self-hugging and doing the 'mouth guard' gesture while Davey was preaching.
July 30, they had their outreach block party.
August 13, they had their first #forIndy cleanup.
So, was it two or three years after first introducing #forIndy, they actually did real outreach mission work, as opposed to 'advertising' by instagramming their little gifts.
Now Davey is blogging that Amanda died just after he decided to 'shelve' #forIndy, and now he is reinvigorated for it (so please donate now, and by the way, I have a book coming out in November) even though they did a #forIndy series and outreach last summer.
Such a lying liar.
Ashley organized the outreach activities. Davey just showed up for a photo op with a weedwhacker. Face hidden below his carefully coordinated ballcap, he dug the weedwhacker right into the dirt. Those muscles are for show, not skilled labor.
So, at the leadership team retreat the weekend before Amanda was murdered, Davey decided to shelve #forIndy, and then prepared the entire leadership team for an upcoming season of pain.
Is it because he KNEW the upcoming season would be #forDavey?
Keep talking, DB.
Yep, he can't shut up! He is getting more brazen in his comments and his agenda.
Interesting about the Indy poster. She is really brave to post that. She knows as well as most of us that it was a set-up. Not typical robbery by any means.
The body language from Clint Dupin and Ashley Barrett was very telling - Perry Noble was also covering his mouth while Davey was speaking, if I remember correctly. If I was Ashley, I wouldn't be able to sleep in the same house as Davey - free or not.
If these people who are "so close" to Davey know something isn't right and obviously show it on camera (unintentionally - body language doesn't lie) -then how can we who don't know him be expected to give him any trust or leeway, especially with what he is saying that contradicts what he said in the past?
And if the Indy poster knows it was a setup - not typical - we can be sure that IMPD and FBI know too.
Why would the Indy poster be any more knowledgeable than SA practitioners? Isn't SA your ultimate forensic tool here? I'd think it would be unlikely for a random poster from Indy to know more than you people, and she doesn't appear to have anything more than an opinion. Being from the same town isn't particularly significant. What do you bet there are plenty of Indy residents who think Davey had nothing to do with the murder. Are they right?
Davey Blackburn's newest Tweet 8:38 AM - 26 Mar 2017
https://twitter.com/daveyblackburn/status/846023553799651328/photo/1
THREE MORE SUNDAYS!! #EverWithMe
(Large picture promo for the Resonate Band's newest Album Release)
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Something a little bigger than a struggling 5 yr old can't-break-a-hundred-"owners"/investors-no-matter-what-business-venture is happening in THREE MORE SUNDAYS.
It's called Easter. You know, only the biggest most important day in all of Christianity- Celebrating the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who died on the cross to pay for all men's sins in their place so that they could be reconciled to God, the Father. His sinless perfect life for their sinful life.
The foundation for every personal relationship with God, Jesus the cornerstone. Not for Pastor Davey Blackburn and not for Resonate Church. Blackburn's priority is Promotion- promoting himself as a motivational speaker, promoting his business as "turning Indy and the world upside down for God", promoting his band and their new album for sale. Jesus, who? Come hear and buy our new album. Oh yeah, it's in honor of my ministry partner. Sure Amanda died; Weston doesn't have a mom anymore, Phil & Robin are without their daughter, Amber and James no longer have their sister, and all of Amanda's extended family and friends are having to learn to "do life" without her, but nothing is wasted and we're selling an album in honor of God killing her (Davey alluding he's the modern day Ezekiel from the Old Testament) and her willingness to fight her attacker to the death to defend herself- Oops, I mean Surrender and Sacrifice herself-so that Resonate might live and Davey can grow up to be a worldwide mega church Pastor.
Davey's officially usurped Jesus with this Twitter tweet.
^ ^ I love this ^ ^
Davey is doing a jig on Amanda's grave, using Jesus' resurrection to sell the show.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.jantoo.com/death-griever-mourner-mourning-mourned-death-59930648_low.jpg
Betting 10 to 1, in Resonate Church April 16th, Jesus is going to be sharing the stage with The Davey Blackburn Amanda Died So That The Church Might Live Show. I will be shocked if Davey doesn't use the Easter crowd to promote himself, his business, the album, his book, and his awesome pastor skills (NOT). I expect him to draw all kinds of parallels between Jesus and Amanda because he's already done so on his personal blog, guest speaking appearances, and in interviews. One very big difference though, Amanda wasn't raised from the dead and Davey certainly couldn't raise her from the dead either. However, he is using her violent death to try to resurrect his on life support church. Beating and whipping a dying horse into a frenzy isn't make the horse go faster, it's just going to make it die faster (Apologies to animal and horse lovers everywhere).
As Trudy already accurately called it, Davey Blackburn has yet to publicly address his detractors and their challenges. Instead he'd rather hide behind name-calling, faux meekness and humility suggesting that they all lack Christ, and play the victim by stating how insensitive people are being to him. There's only two primary victims here and they both died that day at 2812 Sunnyfield Court Indianapolis IN.
Not buying it, Davey. Not buying it at all. You were no husband to Amanda and you are no father to Weston. You are a psychopathic killer. Game over, give it up already. Confess and try to save what remains of your soul.
"Three days later
my house was broken into while I was at the gym,
and
Amanda and our unborn baby, Evie, were murdered."
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Two separate events?
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/purpose-in-pain
#FORINDY was killed and three days later so was Amanda. Sure Amanda was killed, but #FORINDY is resurrected. (Rebirthed within crazy Davey). Hurray.
davey told police he noticed a swisher sweets cigar packet on the kitchen counter. Davey told police he knew it should not be in the residence. Where the fuck did he think it came from?
I hate that he says God protected him from understanding what the cigar pack, (naked bleeding wife, panties, overturned furniture, credit cards, duct tape etc., meant.
He's telling us that he thinks God did him a favour and allowed Davey to remain oblivious to the obvious crime scene and the bullet in his wife's head.
How dare he say God protected him from understanding amanda had been sexually assaulted and shot when he was supposed to be her FIRST AID?!
Sorry, Trudy. That line has been used. We need something original, if you're going to add to the story.
*looks for a rolled up newspaper to smack a recalcitrant pooch.
I want to hear the 911 call.
Anonymous said...
"Not buying it, Davey. Not buying it at all. You were no husband to Amanda and you are no father to Weston. You are a psychopathic killer. Game over, give it up already. Confess and try to save what remains of your soul."
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Davey will destroy the equipment and torch the field before he will ever give up a 'game'.
Please save Weston.
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I want to hear the 911 call.
March 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM
If you people would think for a minute, you would reason (possibly) that, if the 911 call implicated davey, LE would know that. If LE knows that, what's the holdup?
Your attempted explanations for it don't hold water.
Anyone know how the Deoor Kunz case is going? There's a couple of 911 calls that I would like to hear in that case, too. Just thinking for a minute, though, if the calls implicated VDK and JM, LE would know that and if LE knows that, what's the hold up?
Conclusion. The 911calls in the Kunz case do not implicate VDK or JM.
Was the Mark redwine 911call released? (Not that it would implicate Mark redwine, because if it did, the police would know that and if LE knows that, what's the hold up? Right?).
Anyone think the Patsy Ramsey 911 call implicated her? Well now, just stop and think for a minute. If the call implicated Patsy, don't you think LE would know that?
How about John Carters 911 call? Does it implicate him in Katelyn Markhams murder? Apparently not because if it did, Le would know it and if LE knows that, what's the hold up?
The bizarre logic of @5:00 is so funny. Does she really think like that or is she trolling? I llike how she calls the information contained in the APC "fiction", and accuses commenters of making things up, too. So odd.
Oh and I love that she calls it "reasoning". Hahaha. "If you people would think for a minute, you would reason that if the 911 call implicated Davey LE would know that, if LE knows that what's the hold up?" Hahaha. Oh my aching sides. Too funny.
Seriously though, that 911 call....I wonder how closely we could guess what it contains.
A greeting. Good morning
A social introduction of himself: my name is Davey Blackburn,
Alibi building: I just got home from the gym
Incomplete social introduction of Amanda: and my wife
Minimisation of injuries: is unconscious, it looks like she got dizzy and hit her head, she's pregnant
Irrelevant information: there's a ladder and a lamp knocked over
Missing information: (crime scene stuff)
Request for help for himself: I need someone
Ingratiating language: , please, thank you
Inappropriate or unexpected: laughter, wisecracking
Well, then, Trudy, why are you so interested in hearing the 911 call?
Actually the 911 call would say "my name is Davey Blackburn" but would also include early on that "I'm the lead pastor of Resonate Church" - this guy even put that he was the pastor of Resonate Church in Amanda's OBITUARY ! - seriously. Who does that? Who cares what Amanda's husband did for a living - but he dropped that into the second sentence.
Amanda is survived by her husband, Davey Blackburn, and son, Weston. Davey is the pastor of Resonate Church of Indianapolis. She is also survived by her parents, Phil & Robin Byars; siblings Gavin & Amber (Byars) Wilkinson, James & Angela Byars; and grandparents, Jim & Bobbi Cook; Lavoy & Mildred Byars.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/indystar/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=176480766
This is a guy who couldn't even have a picture of Amanda by herself in the celebration of life honoring HER - he had to be in it too.
So I imagine the 911 call included the tidbit that Davey "works" at Resonate Church. All the better and very important during the 911 call to include that he is a PASTOR - it supports the grieving pastor husband "story" and would be important to try to portray himself to be like the innocent little white lamb that he wishes he was. Who would think a pastor would kill his wife or have anything to do with her death? Honestly, I was at the gym and HAD NO IDEA any of this was going to happen ! ! PLEASE BELIEVE ME !
The 911 call is one piece of the puzzle. Whatever it says or doesn't say - it is irreversible, unchangeable, on the record forever. Davey knows this. And now it appears, for quite some time, that Davey is desperately attempting to explain what he saw, felt, thought that morning - and I believe it is because he knows there are inconsistencies in what he told 911 vs what he actually saw - and he knows we aren't going to let it go.
There are inconsistencies in the Affidavit for Probable Cause as well - nobody can deny that what Davey told Detective Perkins on the morning of November 10th does not correlate with what he says in his appearances since then. More damage control.
Anonymous, why do you NOT want us to hear the 911 call? - why so invested in knocking down and questioning our wishes to hear it?
Selling 'Ever With Me' in a behind the music video...
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/videos/1833290346696705/
Does anyone know if the trial/s went ahead as scheduled? (Mar 20th?) I can't find anything about it on-line.
TIA
Well, well, well...that explains why Davey chose to record "Ever With Me" and the rest of the album at Phil Byers's church instead of Resonate. Davey wanted to film "crowds worshiping" and there was and is not crowd at Resonate. Davey's own congregation is too pitifully small for such a "big-time" promotional production. He used Phil and his congregation! It wasn't about recording it in Amanda's honor, in the Church she grew up in. Davey, the video production king that he is, used Amanda's father, his congregation, and all of those people's sincere emotion and worship to stage his album.
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/videos/1833290346696705/
hear the 911 call? - why so invested in knocking down and questioning our wishes to hear it?
I'm invested? It's the first time I've mentioned it.
You DO tend to exaggerate; never mind your inability to perceive correctly.
Nic,
Taylor and Watson's trial is pushed back to May 15. Gordon is July 10.
His affect is so blank and emotionless. Did he botox?
Flightful bird @7:15. I actually had "I'm the lead pastor at Resonate church" in the original draft, but I took it out because i thought even Davey wouldn't be that much of a douche. You're right though. The 911 call probably does mentions his job title. I imagine it also includes an invocation of deity: oh my god, dear Jesus, lord help me.
I wonder why 911didnt keep crazy Davey on the phone until papramedics arrived. Davey says he called his dad after he got off the phone with 911. I don't now. Maybe 911 did keep him on the line and he called his dad after paramedics arrived. (Maybe that's why he didn't hear paramedics identifying Amanda's injuries as bullet wounds and calling police.... He was too busy ringing his dad)
I predict the 911contains at least one apology, too.
Trudy, it wouldn't surprise me for one second if Davey just said to 911 that Amanda was unconscious and pregnant, that maybe she fell and hit her head. That would definitely explain why he's saying in his appearances for months now that he thought something had gone wrong with, uh, the pregnancy (sometimes he elevates it to "horrifically wrong"), that he had no idea that there were bullet wounds, that he had no idea anyone had been in his house.
The APC says he called reporting his wife to be "injured and unconscious". Period. The APC says the other residents reported burglaries.
Why didn't he report a home invasion like the other victims that morning? Because he had no idea anyone had been in his house. But how could he have no idea anyone had been n his house with everything appearing the way it did when he walked in to shower? Amanda obviously didn't do that to herself and she sure didn't go on a rampage throwing change and turning over furniture and scattering duct tape and earbuds around the living room and leaving smokes on the countertop and pulling up her own shirt and running around without underwear (compliments to another poster, I can;'t remember who, who created the "Amanda on a rampage that would never be caused by just being pregnant" scenario. . . )
So now Davey has to say he has no idea of all of this - because he didn't report the things he saw.
Yes, it's repetitive - but it has not yet been explained by Davey or by anyone else. And no, anons/ FIdos, I am NEVER going to let this drop.
His words have trapped him and he is trying to explain them after the fact, knowing that the 9i11 call is carved in stone.
People here have been laughing about it from the very first week, saying that the 911 call absolutely started with "hi, uh, I just got home from the gym and uh . . . "
The alibi was paramount in his mind - to the point that Davey had to amend the statement originally released on Resonate's Facebook page to include that he came home from the gym (an hour or so after the first statement was published WITHOUT the fact that he was honestly at the gym being included in the post).
People here have been laughing about it from the very first week, saying that the 911 call absolutely started with "hi, uh, I just got home from the gym and uh . . .
The hypocrisy here is YUGE.
You've been "laughing"...... what a stupid, yet revealing thing to say.
This is not about the very real, tragic murder of a young mom. No....it's an online sleuthing game to you fools (someone has that as part of their name--appropriate) where you make up fantastical stories and sub plots and try to pass it off as SA.
And laugh.
It's not SA.
The entire blog comments are full of "probably", "I think", "what if", "obviously", "I predict", "wouldn't surprise me if", "no doubt", I think", and the best of all, "I imagine."
LOL. "Imagine" is what you three or four posters do in this blog; a far cry from statement analysis.
Oh.....and you laugh.
That sounds awful, poor @4:36am. If only there was some way she could avoid having to read comments.
Fido up at 4:36 on a Tuesday, talking about hypocrisy. Is it your long day?
I agree, Davey for sure told the 911 dispatcher that he was at the gym. There is not one time that he doesn't mention the gym. No blog, interview or speaking tour does he NOT mention the dang gym. Wait, Davey actually changed his public statement within the first hours to include the gym on the day she was shot? What was going on with the IMPD that they didn't bring that crazy man in for an immediate polygraph? That alone was a major red flag! I assume he told Megs to put out the statement and she didn't include this and he had to go back and do it himself. Does anyone have the two statements and the time difference? WOW! Who would even care or think about something like that during the first few hours!
Sometimes you have to wonder what the police were thinking? This guy obviously didn't relay to the 911 dispatcher that his wife had been shot or that his house had been invaded. He didn't bother to go check on his son until he grabbed him to carry to hospital. He then miraculously remembers everything that was out of place and not meant to be in his home, that his wife was naked and lying in a pool of blood when he is interviewed at the hospital. He begins tweeting Nothing is Wasted within hours of AB being taken to hospital, changes the church statement to include his alibi, starts a GoFundMe page all before nightfall. Instead of dragging his a#$ to the police dept for some deeper interviewing and a polygraph, they clear him 100% before they even have anyone else in custody. They release his home back to the family and it is immediately professionally cleaned. OH my gosh! This frustrates me so much. What were they thinking? They would be hard pressed to ever build a case against him now because they didn't do the proper investigating within the first 24-48 hours.
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Fido up at 4:36 on a Tuesday, talking about hypocrisy. Is it your long day?
March 28, 2017 at 9:41 AM
Exhibiting that razor-like intelligence again, Trude? Do you think all time is your time?
And you want to solve murders. LOLOLOL
It is interesting that Davey had his house professionally cleaned the day after Amanda died yet then stated he didn't go inside the house for 3 months. And then when he did, he laid down on the spot Amanda died. Really strange.
Has it ever been mentioned whether Davey used towels on try and stop the bleeding or did he just sit there next to her on the phone? I would assume the 911 operator would have told him to apply pressure if she was bleeding, not just sit there and watch her bleed out.
"What were they thinking? They would be hard pressed to ever build a case against him now because they didn't do the proper investigating within the first 24-48 hours."
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I believe that clearing him was a calculated move. Patience.
The Resonate announcements:
11/11/2015 @ 11:47 AM
"Extremely heavy hearts today. Our Pastor's wife Amanda Blackburn passed away this morning. Please pray for the Blackburn and Byars family during this difficult time. Although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come from this! "Although we don't know what to do, our eyes are on you"."
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1254057221286690
11/11/2015 @ 2:06 PM
"Yesterday, our pastor Davey Blackburn came home from the gym to discover someone had broken into his home and his wife Amanda had suffered a gunshot wound. She was immediately rushed to the hospital where she later died from these injuries.
Please join us in prayer for our pastor, his son Weston and their entire family during these hard days ahead. We have extremely heavy hearts and although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come."
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1254118747947204?pnref=story
The time stamps may be an hour off. If so, they would be 10:47 and 1:06 (I am one hour ahead of Indy time).
'Extremely heavy hearts today,.'
Sometimes inclusion of a pronoun is just too demanding.
Hey Jude, combine the use of "extremely heavy hearts" with saying "we are hurting tremendously" and it's even more of a need to persuade. There would be no need to convince that people are crushed and reeling from it if this was a stunning, unexpected event.
Davey also used the words "we are hurting tremendously" in the invitation to Amanda's celebration of life service as well - when giving instructions of what people should tell the media if anyone approaches them (WTF?) - he said "you can let them know that we are hurting tremendously" and then a plug for great things still yet to come.
November 13, 2015 - from Facebook
Dear Resonate Family,
I cannot thank you enough for the unbelievable outpouring of love that you have shared with my family over the past few days. As many of you know, my wife Amanda Grace and our unborn baby have been tragically killed.
We are going to have church this Sunday, just like we always do. In addition to meeting together at our normal service times, we are going to focus on celebrating Amanda’s life later Sunday afternoon. Please join me at Traders Point Christian Church at 5:00pm. We are going to worship, share the gospel through sharing Amanda’s story, laugh together and cry together. Her heart would be that you invite as many people as possible to this celebration service that do not know the Lord.
Amanda’s story has attracted national news. I know that Jesus is going to make good come from this, so in the event someone from the media tries to speak with you, simply respond by asking everyone to join us in prayer for my family. You can let them know that we have extremely heavy hearts and although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come.
Davey
It would've been obvious to IFD Engine 12 that they had walked into a crime scene - just as it was obvious to Davey when he walked in from the gym.
The first question in the minds of IFD, while at the same time trying to tend to their patient, would've been why wasn't IMPD there. It appears that IMPD hadn't even been summoned yet and IFD had to call for them. So what would IMPD think when they walked into the living room and encountered the scene? - and what if the 911 call didn't mention any of what they saw?
It seems that IMPD would think it quite bizarre that they were summoned to an active crime scene by the paramedics instead of being dispatched by 911. A very real, tragic murder of a young mom - a sensitive, active crime scene - would take precedence for IMPD over investigation of the other "random" burglaries that morning, if resources were slim as has been suggested before.
Davey wasn't even concerned that anyone might still be in the house upstairs - hiding in the garage - harming Weston - he called 911 and reported his wife to be injured and unconscious - he never mentioned thinking anyone could still be there. They wouldn't be, would they? - in through the unlocked front door, out in whatever way they chose to leave - but he knew they were gone by the time he came home to find Amanda, to shower, to stage, to do whatever before he called 911 as soon as he could.
Yes, it was a calculated move for IMPD to clear him as fast as they did. But actually - merely having the media announce that he was cleared - and actually clearing him in their minds of any involvement whatsoever forever and ever - are two different things as well.
At first, Davey's making sure everyone knew he was at the gym could have been taken as the pride of a gym rat - similar to a marathon runner - who always has to slip in about their training because it is so closely tied to their identity, or they WANT it to be. Or like someone who has a pool and bas to slip in about what day the pool guy comes - or says in casual conversation that they had to do this or that to their boat.
But the more Davey emphasizes where he wasthat morning during that timeframe - that he was at the gym- in all of its various iterations over the past sixteen-plus months - it is more obvious that it could be, or is, his alibi - or an attempt at one anyway.
Every.single.rendition. of that morning includes the gym - but especially with the Facebook post quoted above being updated a couple of hours afterward to include the gym because it wasn't in the first one - it's so obvious that the gym was a critical part of the narrative of that morning from the very beginning and the story had to get out from the very start.
Oh the innocence - I was at the gym, came home and found my worst nightmare, I had no idea what was happening while I was at the gym - see officers, see Perry, see Ashley and Amber and FBI agents and George S from GMA - I couldn't have shot Amanda because I was AT THE GYM. The cameras saw me there !
Which still does nothing to rule out the possibility that Amanda wasn't in the condition she was in BEFORE Davey ever left for the gym.
It also does nothing to rule out the possibility of a hit being orchestrated - by Davey. Looking for motive? There are a lot of motives, no question.
Letting Davey think he was cleared was the best way to keep him talking, keep him making appearances, give time to build a solid airtight case without making him flee or lawyer up. And nobody was laughing at the “very real, tragic murder of a young mom” - but absolutely laughing at this inept pastor who thought he had everything planned down to the nth degree, watching him stutter and stumble and try to explain and justify and cover things up.
'As many of you know, my wife Amanda Grace and our unborn baby have been tragically killed, - they all would have known by then - unnecessary dallying - and such a passive death announcement. Okay, if it had been a car accident - it's interesting he does not attribute the tragic killings to anyone.
Well, Imsupoose he is addressing the many who already know, but he still could have said 'home invasion' or expressed some outrage - which he doesn't ever sincerely manage. Even if he was glad to be free of Amanda, and got that 'lucky', surely he would still have been shocked and horrified at what happened to her, and upset at his negligence in leaving the door unlocked. It's not there - and when eventually he tried to explain it away by 'she was getting up' - well, what difference would,that make? She was not up and dressed and able to lock the door right after him, therefore he should have locked the door - Amanda was vulnerable while she was still getting up and unable to lock the door. He's pathetic.
I would like to read an alternate obituary that actually talks about Amanda's life, not one that reads like Gavin is her brother. It's so idiotic.
Wtf? Why is @ 10:15 talking to me? Wtf does it mean "do you think all time is your time"? Someone is unravelling.
The repeated inclusion by crazy Davey of certain elements, such as the gym, make the omission of certain elements, such as any mention of Amanda, more glaring.
A hypothetical breakdown of the timeline between 4:30am and 6:10 am makes the repetitions and omissions more significant - especially with regards to Amanda, Mel, Weston and the failure to appropriately pack the gym bag.
Yes - that's a very long timeline to do these things -
4:30am - woke up
spent some time in the word/read my Bible (for like ten minutes?), prayed for the safety of Amanda and Evie but not Weston, grabbed my gym bag
6:10pm - left for the gym
In all of his appearances, Davey goes into so much more detail about Amanda as he found her when he walked in from the gym -he gives no information at all about how she was when he left her, words spoken between them that morning or if they had any interaction at all - was she asleep or awake, up with Weston - except for "she was about to get up anyways" (so that's why I left the front door unlocked).
4:30am - Rise and shine.
4:30am -5:00am - read Bible on couch
(Do not feed dog /walk dog/pat dog or do any dog related activities. Where the f is the dog? Lock dog in room?)
5:00 -6:05am - grab gym clothes, gym bag, gym clothes. (Over one hour unaccounted for time)
(Do not pack requirements for a shower at gym. Do not look at Amanda. Do not speak to Amanda. Do not kiss Amanda goodbye.)
6:07 am- Take one last look around
6:08 am - turn the light off. Then on. Then off again. (I wonder about the light. If Amanda was "about to get up anyway" did he leave the light on for her? Did "robbers" approach a house that had lights on? or did Davey leave the house in darkness with the front door unlocked?
6:09am - leave front door unlocked.
(Do not notice robbery taking place next door but one. Do not notice unusual cars, noise, people in neighbours driveway.
6:10am - Drive to gym in victim's car
6:20 am arrive @gym
6:25 am start workout.
7:00 am. Receive scheduled phone call from KW while still working out
7:10 am - leave gym
7:20 - arrive home. Wait for neighbour who has been robbed to come home
8:17am - neighbour returns home
8:17 am - terminate conversation with KW
8:18 am - walk into house
8:18 am - discover Amanda
8:22 am - call 911
8:22 am - take mental snapshots of crime scene, see Weston's still closed door, hear Weston softly cooing
8:27 am - (approx) - paramedics arrive
8:30 am - paramedics call IMPD. (Note: paramedics realised within minutes it was a crime scene - how or why was that information not conveyed by paramedics to Davey? How could Davey have failed to hear the call for IMPD?)
8:32 am - Davey calls his dad to ask him to pray for Amanda, something is wrong with the pregnancy. (I think Davey asked his dad to call PN, Brad cooper etc and pass on the misinformation under guise of asking them to pray for Davey and Amanda - which is why nobody knew Amanda had been shot. It's funny Davey didn't tell his dad about the mental snapshots of cigar packs, strewn credit cards and other crime scene stuff)
8:35 am (approx). Let Mel out from wherever she was locked away.
8:44 am - police arrive.
8:44 am - Davey (finally) checks on and grabs Weston. (No mention of changing or feeding the toddler)
8:45 am - puts Weston in (Amanda's?) car and follows ambulance to hospital.
S
Did/do Davey and Jono have a sibling?
If so, is the sibling alive/estranged or dead?
There was quite the barrage of Facebook posts from Resonate Church on November 10th and 11th - starting with this cryptic one liner on November 10th
- We don't know what to do, but our eyes are on You.
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1253697511322661
Then, there were the two on the morning and early afternoon of November 11th - one posted and then the other with the "correction" to include that Davey returned from the gym to discover - similar buzzwords though. It was like a punch list - be sure to include these words, in some cases these EXACT words, even though Resonate Facebook page followers would've already read the first post -
(1) Extremely heavy hearts
(2) Amanda died
(3) Please pray during this difficult time (or these hard days ahead)
(4) We are hurting tremendously (along with the extremely above - was there seriously any need to stress the degree of hurt? - it would be obvious they would be, or should be, blinded by grief)
(5) We are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come from this ! (with the exclamation point)
11/11/2015 @ 11:47 AM
"Extremely heavy hearts today. Our Pastor's wife Amanda Blackburn passed away this morning. Please pray for the Blackburn and Byars family during this difficult time. Although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come from this! "Although we don't know what to do, our eyes are on you"."
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1254057221286690
11/11/2015 @ 2:06 PM
"Yesterday, our pastor Davey Blackburn came home from the gym to discover someone had broken into his home and his wife Amanda had suffered a gunshot wound. She was immediately rushed to the hospital where she later died from these injuries.
Please join us in prayer for our pastor, his son Weston and their entire family during these hard days ahead. We have extremely heavy hearts and although we are hurting tremendously, we are still hoping and believing that great things are still yet to come."
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1254118747947204?pnref=story
The word “still” continues to bother me - in addition to emphasizing how extremely heavy their hearts are - the word “still” implies that whoever “they” are have been hoping and believing for some period of time that great things are still yet to come from this - NOT that they just started trying to see the best in it on the day it happened or the day after. Without the word “still”, it makes more sense that they just started trying to see the best in it on the day it happened and the day after. STILL hoping makes it sound like quite some time that the hoping and believing has been going on.
And how can Davey put on Facebook on November 11th that he came home from the gym to discover someone had broken into his home - but then in most, if not all, subsequent appearances say he had no idea anyone had been in his house?
And always “a gunshot wound” - not shot three times, whether or not he included “one to the head” like sometimes.
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- continued from last post -
Then the link to this (carefully prepared, I feel in advance - because who could think clearly enough to write this while sitting beside his wife on life support - public speaker or not?) statement on the Resonate Church website was on Facebook November 11th -
It’s impossible to communicate all the emotions my heart has been forced to process. My wife was such a beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God. I have not only lost my ministry partner and support but also my very best friend. There is no way to prepare yourself for circumstances like these. As deeply as I am hurting I am hopeful and confident that good things will come of this. I rest in the truth of Romans 8:28 that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and who are called according to His purpose.
Thank you for understanding my desire to take these next few days to continue to grieve for Amanda Grace. My focus right now is to let The Lord minister to my heart as I continue to shepherd little Weston’s. I’ll be taking this time to focus on being a great follower of Jesus, dad, family member, and pastor to our growing church.
Amanda made it her life’s calling to love and serve everyone she knew. Even more, she has made it her life’s mission to see as many people as possible come to know Jesus as their personal Savior. I know that in her death and legacy even more people will come to a saving faith in Christ. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt her desire for me would be to continue what we’ve started here in Indy. I hold firm to the belief that God is still good, that He takes our tragedy and turns it into triumph, and that the best truly is yet to come.
-Davey Blackburn
http://resonateindianapolis.com/2015/11/statement-from-davey-blackburn/
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1254313214594424
And this appeared on the Resonate website as well -
Amanda Grace Blackburn was a beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God. During a home invasion on November 10, 2015, Amanda suffered a gunshot wound and was left critically injured. The next day Amanda and her unborn daughter, Everette “Evie” Grace Blackburn, passed away as a result of her injuries.
In 2012 Amanda moved back to Indianapolis, Indiana with her husband, Davey, to start Resonate Church. Davey and Amanda planted Resonate Church in Indianapolis with the intention of creating life change through Christ for the residents of Indianapolis.
http://resonateindianapolis.com/amanda/
The prepared statement shows foreknowledge, planning, preparation - to the point of having a carefully-prepared statement to release on cue - protect the brand, inform the flock - that would be the last thing on my mind if T was on life support - making a statement to send forth so SOON after he died. And again with the beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God - which is all true about Amanda from everything I can tell - but just rote parroting those same words on the same website - does not seem to be from his heart.
And the home invasion story again - it was a home invasion from the very start - how again now did it turn into having no idea anyone had been in your home, Davey?
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Now -fast forward to the series about money in 2017 at Resonate -
From Resonate Church Facebook page February 14th 2017
Money is always on our minds. We think about it, we stress over it, we even fight about it. For many of us, our bank accounts are very near the top of our priorities. The way we live with our wallets shows what we really believe, and what really is the most important thing in our lives.
How is Davey living now ? - no worries and no disrespect intended by him to the people who might've skimped on their own needs to support little fifteen month old Weston (and Davey in his walk of pain), giving money to them with some idea in their heads of how it might be used.
I guess the trips and the car and the house and the exotic lifestyle have helped immensely with the "missing Amanda" part, if he even misses her at all.
^^ The way we live with our wallets shows what we really believe, and what really is the most important thing in our lives.^^
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1775465602479180
Did/do Davey and Jono have a sibling?
If so, is the sibling alive/estranged or dead?
Well said, Flightful.
Yep. " The way we live with our wallets shows what we really believe, and what really is the most important thing in our lives"
Huge life insurance policy on young stay-at-home mother, gym membership, Starbucks, big house with a pool, overseas and domestic air travel, vanity album recordings, new wardrobe, cross fit, restaurants, Disneyland, and holidays, holidays, holidays. Thanks Davey, for showing us what you really believe and what is the most important thing in your life. Pig.
If the #FORINDY project was shelved three days before Amanda's murder, selling the stock of useless, redundant #FORINDY t shirts at Amanda's funeral was even more stunningly mercenary and opportunistic than I thought.
'Amanda suffered a gunshot wound and was left critically injured.'
Again, so passive - no-one is given responsibility for having fired the gun - Amanda just suffered a gunshot wound.
Hey Jude, it's minimisation as well. A (singular) gunshot wound instead of three gunshot wounds. No mention of being sexually assaulted and bashed in the face with a tooth missing. (Interesting that crazy Davey mentioned those two things, specifically, in his "worship is a weapon" sermon a few days before they happened to Amanda.)
Pssst - achtung, achtung - atencion - to Davey, Megs, whoever is webmaster of the Resonate Church website and Facebook page - -
Maybe consider this - if Davey is really going to continue to try to convince the public in his ongoing appearances that he had absolutely no idea anyone had been in his house ?!
Then perhaps you guys should take down or at least edit these pages which say Amanda was shot during a home invasion and that someone had broken into (his) house
Although the screenshots will live on - rest assured, the web never forgets. . .
http://resonateindianapolis.com/amanda/
which states
During a home invasion on November 10, 2015, Amanda suffered a gunshot wound and was left critically injured.
http://resonateindianapolis.com/blackburnsupport/
which states
"On November 10th our pastor Davey Blackburn returned from the gym to discover someone had broken into his home and his wife Amanda had suffered a gunshot wound."
From Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1254118747947204?pnref=story
which states
"Yesterday, our pastor Davey Blackburn came home from the gym to discover someone had broken into his home and his wife Amanda had suffered a gunshot wound."
Remember, these pages were up starting on November 11th ! -this leaves no question that the story was originally a home invasion. How the hell can Davey think people aren't noticing that his story is 180 degrees from where it was the day after Amanda was "left critically injured"?
Home invasion- someone had broken in ----> but later uh, no, I had no idea anyone had been in my house, had no idea there were bullet wounds.
Covering for the 911 call makes sense (yeah I went there, yet again). Actually that's the only thing that makes sense. I've said before - Davey, the home invasion story was totally working - Amanda was caught in the crossfire or whatever - UNLESS your words and actions that morning on the phone and in person don't support a home invasion.
The more I think about it, the more sure I am that IMPD clearing him was totally a setup.
KW spoke at resonate on Sunday.
Davey spends five full minutes gushing about his "brother from another mother" and how KW is closer than a brother (sorry Jono) to him. They still have the Tuesday morning calls. Wow. If crazy Davey had PTSD, you'd think Tuesday morning calls with KW would really upset him, but no.
Despite the gushing, crazy Davey can't stop himself from expressing envy and contempt for KW, expressing incredulity that KWs church grew quickly, while Resonate did not.
Hey Jude @8:24. CD also likes to say 'when Amanda passed" and "when Amanda went to be with Jesus" as if it was a choice that Amanda, herself, made.
Flightful said: "the more I think about it, the more sure I am that IMPD clearing him quickly was totally a set up". Me too. It has to be.
I had high hopes when CD said that police weren't giving him much information, no more than they were giving the public, when the police came into the hospital and asked a "bunch" of questions, and when CD said that police questioning was to be expected but still difficult "to swallow". (Strange use of the word "swallow". If something is hard to swallow, it's hard to believe (like anything out of Daveys mouth). If questioning was to be expected why was it hard "to swallow"?)
Facebook November 23, 2015 - (link to entire carefully-prepared statement below this quote)
An Update from Davey and his family:
Though it does not undo the pain we are feeling, I was extremely relieved to get the news of the arrest made last night of Amanda's killer. The investigators have assured me they have a solidly-built case to ensure justice is levied and the process is expedited. The family and I couldn't be more thankful for the level of compassion and professionalism the IMPD and investigators have shown us through the last couple of weeks.
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1261346237224455
From this statement - again with emphasizing "the pain WE are feeling" - needing to convince that he is still "hurting tremendously, much? (we = me, myself and I - or is it "everyone" affected by Amanda's murder?
And I imagine Davey was quite relieved that someone had been arrested - yet "relieved" is an interesting choice of words - as opposed to "happy" or "gratified". Maybe happy and gratified is what he meant - but it's not what his brain chose to say out of the thousands of words he could have chosen.
Was he "relieved" that they have a target - that they're not looking at him? - that someone else is going to take the fall for this even IF he had something to do with it? Relief is exactly what I'd feel if I had anything to do with Amanda's murder, thought IMPD might be looking at me but then arrested someone else.
He says nothing about being relieved that the killer is off of the streets and no longer a threat to returning to his house - but then again he had no fear of that from the very start. Along the lines of Davey getting the same information as the public and media are getting from IMPD - he says the prosecutors have assured him that they have a solidly-built case - so what if IMPD told him that so he will relax and think they don't think he's involved in the least?
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Davey gulps and sighs a lot when he is lying through his teeth. It is literally difficult for him "to swallow" when being questioned.
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Bobcat's blog has links to all of Davey's initial media blitz appearances with transcriptions of most of them - look on the right side of the blog page for a list. All of these are worth watching/reading - especially because this many months later Davey's discomfiture and deer in the headlights look is so obvious - along with the transcripts which serve to emphasize even more just how much this public speaker with a communications degree couldn't speak publicly in coherent sentences or answer direct questions without all of the uhs, ums. stammering and stuttering.
Here is the link to the Fox News interview page (appearance on November 19th) and part of the transcription copy/pasted below it - lots of stammering and stuttering when discussing the gun found on the neighbor's lawn - and whether he recognized the grainy picture.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/11192015-fox-news-interview.html
I: Well, ah somebody in the neighborhood spotted a gun that was on their lawn and took it into a fire department , and they’re analyzing this , ah, Pastor tell us a little bit about how this could be linked to your wife’s murder.
Davey: Well I, I’m, not , I’m not, su, sure about, ya know, the, the , ah, um, the viability of how it could be linked or how it couldn’t , b..be linked, and so again, ya know the investigators are takin’ a look at that, um, they’ve assured us that they have the full breadth of resources at their availability, um, they’ve assured me that they’ve never, um, this kind of a blank a, a, check that they’ve been given to be able ta, ta, further the investigation, and so, we’re really confident and hopeful that very soon , um, some of these promising leads that they have will turn into , um, bein’ able to find the person, or the people, who are responsible for this.
I: Yeah, and one of the other promising leads is there is some video that shows some kinda grainy, it can make out somebody walkin’ , has that been helpful to the police, I, in this (video of perp) you can’t really see any of the guys features , presumably a guys features, ah, has that been helpful to the police?
Davey: Well, I, ya know, I’m sure its been helpful to them, um , they’re, ya know, they’re, they’re the professionals , they do this, they’re very good at what they do, and so um, it’s not been helpful for us, we obviously don’t recognize a, who that is,and you’re right, it’s very obscure, so we’re not , we’re not sure, but again, we’re just, we’re trustin’ that they’ve got not just that but lots of different things to ah, to a, help in the process of, of findin’ this perpetrator, yeah.
As far as saying "we obviously don't recognize who that is" in the Fox News interview - another coverup? What if he did recognize the individual - he can't say that he does, can he?
"justice is levied"
Levied is an odd choice. It is a word with purely negative connotations. It is not typically associated with justice.
levied
noun, plural levies. 1. an imposing or collecting, as of a tax, by authority or force.
"this cryptic one liner on November 10th
- We don't know what to do, but our eyes are on You.
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1253697511322661"
That was the verse Davey kept repeating in one of his sermons. I believe the sermon was the "Worship as a Weapon" sermon. I think that might be the only one I've watched all the way through.
Thanks for posting the above again.
"It's not been helpful for us, we obviously don't recognize a who that is, and you're right, it's very obscure so we're not, we're not sure..."
Davey goes from "obviously don't recognize, to "we're not sure" in the same sentence, reducing reliability.
Contrast Daveys reaction to seeing a blurry video of the perp (just after he'd allegedly sexually assaulted and mortally wounded Amanda) to his reaction to seeing their photos in the newspaper, days later.
"The first time I felt any sort of anger" was when arrests were made and he saw their photos in the paper. The first time he felt any sort of anger? Not when he found Amanda dying on the floor. No. Only when someone was arrested and got their photo in the paper. And why would that be? Because one of the steps in his carefully plotted ploy failed. Nobody was supposed to get caught.
“Davey, do you think Amanda would have still said ‘yes’ to Jesus about moving to Indianapolis if she knew she was going to lose her life four years into it?”
IMPD telling Davey that they have a "blank check" to investigate Amanda's murder sounds more threatening than reassuring.
Look at these pictures of the multiple people listening to Davey tell his story - mouth covering is rampant - they DO NOT believe him ! (credit to Bobcat for compiling this and posting it)
https://www.facebook.com/AmandaBlackburnStatementAnalysis/photos/p.204154146666565/204154146666565/?type=3&theater
...And the time Davey covered his own mouth, when talking about his activities on Monday, November 9th:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zMBNrmu9sFY/V9hpNhypq_I/AAAAAAAAAi4/0SaIATgPI0g_Ff4_ihyBfKgB5GIZJTDRgCLcB/s1600/lies.jpg
"And I remember like, getting up, and having all these to-dos swirling around my brain, you know, I gotta go do this, I gotta, drop this thing off, I gotta run this errand, I gotta, take care of this I gotta go meet with this person, right, so I get up, get my shower, you know, get ready to go. Weston’s up, she’s up with Weston, and she’s kinda taking it slow, Monday morning… And um, I don’t really remember much about our conversation, honestly. I don’t remember much about what was going on. All I remember is I had all these things in my head of all this stuff that I needed to do, all these things, uh, this agenda that I needed to take care of, and so I, you know, rush into the bathroom while she’s, getting ready and I, kiss her goodbye, and I, walk out of the house, and, uh, spent the rest of that day, doing things. Pushing the ball forward. Building a church. Meeting with people. Pouring myself out." (DB stops talking, slowly puts finger to his mouth)
crazy Davey Blackburn has told us us a lot about Amanda the morning of the day before. He knew she was up and awake. He went looking for her and she wasn't in her usual position propped up on the bed. He peered into the bathroom. The fucker. She wasn't there. She was on her knees, beside the bed. "Are you ok babe?" Said Davey
" I was just praying that God would use us in a really big way." said Amanda.
Less than 24 hours later, she was shot in the head.
And Davey Blackburn,is,trying to convince people that Amanda would have said "yes" to her own sexual assault and murder.... and the murder of her unborn child....and that the best is yet to come.
"Sure Amanda was killed....but ..."
hey, with the debate here, could anyone who has training in statements analysis identify themselves? Some of this is really really confusing. It sometimes seems like no one here is actually trained and are both sides torturing the words.
I am not sure about this case. This guy has been cleared and this guy says some things that make me shake my head like he is actually happy his wife and baby were murdered and out of the way.
Could some of you regular debaters please identify if you were trained and where you were trained. I don't know if this training is worth it from what I read here. thank you. Oh, and where do I find out about training?
Thanks Bobcat for the two statements. I didn't remember that Davey updated the statement that he was at the gym within hours of the execution. How obvious can he be?
I hope you guys are right about the police clearing him on purpose. I still wish they had brought him in for questioning and given him a protocol polygraph. He surely would have failed it and then they could have looked at financial records, further studied the crime scene before the professional cleaning, traced his ride to the gym, interviewed Megs,etc. 100% clearing him and returning the home to the family baffled me.
Speaking of Megs, have you guys notice she has completely stepped into Amanda's place. She posts pics of Weston eating, singing, etc. She posts praising pictures of Davey and how amazing he is (gag me, he is disgusting) She even posted Amanda's dog Mel on national puppy day. Scary stuff!
They intentionally cleared him......to what end? Are they hoping he messes up? What? If that's the case, does it mean he has not messed up yet........because, ya know it!s almost 1 1/2 years now.
and they still have no evidence linking Davey to his wife's murder?
Although nothing commenters cite here can be considered evidence, and their SA is worthless, because they use it to make their imagined evidence fit, rather than let the words speak for themselves. . .
OK then, let's let Davey's own words speak for themselves.
The excerpts below are from the Blackburn Discussion blog - all credit to Bobcat for the complete transcriptions with highlights - link here -
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/06/11102015-i-had-no-idea-daveys-evolving.html
Documented in the Affidavit for Probable Cause - interview with Detective Perkins at Methodist Hospital -
link https://www.scribd.com/doc/291143533/Affidavit-of-Probable-Cause-in-Amanda-Blackburn-Case
Blackburn noticed her credit cards and wallet on the floor. He noticed her purse on the counter and a Swisher Sweet cigar package on the counter. David Blackburn stated that the Swisher Sweet package should not be in their residence. A decorative lamp and ladder were knocked over in the living room next to Amanda Blackburn.
Crime Scene Specialist Colleen Clark documented the scene with video, photographs and a sketch. Clark recovered multiple blood and DNA swabs. She recovered change from the landing floor, grey panties, a roll of duct tape and earphones from the living room floor. She recovered a Swisher Sweets package from the kitchen counter. Amanda Blackburn’s purse and wallet were recovered from the counter.
Davey wrote in the April 14, 2016 blog post titled "Nothing is Wasted" - link https://daveyblackburn.com/2016/04/14/nothing-is-wasted/
My home had been broken into
Davey wrote in the "my story' section of daveyblackburn.com - link https://daveyblackburn.com/my-story/
On the morning of November 10th, 2015 I came home from the gym to discover Amanda had been shot in the head during a home invasion . . . .
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but THEN on April 24, 2016 he had no idea -
Davey says in the Newspring Church with Perry Noble recording A - link https://vimeo.com/164261879?from=outro-embed
had no idea that somebody had been in my house, um, things didn’t look right, it didn’t, something was, was up,
He says in the Newspring Church with Perry Noble recording B - link https://newspring.cc/sermons/youve-got-what-it-takes/youve-got-what-it-takes-to-get-through-this
. . . had no idea, some things looked out of place. . .
but then he says in the May 2016 Pastor Resources video titled "Working Through Unspeakable Grief and Loss"
- link http://www.pastorresources.com/davey-blackburn-working-through-grief/#comment-1106
Um, and so I, I found out while I was at the hospital that, there had actually been a home inva-, invasion in our house, um, so I was just in complete shock.
Then he says in May 22, 2016 video titled "A Conversation with Levi Lusko" - link http://freshlifechurch.com/series/single.php?id=81&tm=734
while I was sitting there with her waiting for the, the paramedics, I-, s-, my, my mind was taking (snaps fingers) snapshots of the things in the room that were out of place...
So, what had happened was, someone had broken into our house and uh there were three gunshot wounds. . .
In June 5, 2016 Kensington Church with Clint Dupin video - link https://vimeo.com/169442837
. . . there were things that were out of place that didn't seem right . . .
June 26, 2016 Daybreak Church video - link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGavQLkTbIQ
Many of you are familiar with, with my story. Um, you're familiar with, um, uh, November, November 10th of this past year, um, we lost, uh beautiful Amanda Grace, uh to a senseless tragic, tragedy. I came home from the, the gym and and found her. Um, there had been a home invasion in my house that morning and uh there were three bullet wounds, um in her, one, one in her head, and so we, we took her to the hospital. . .
("um, we lost, uh, beautiful Amanda Grace, uh, to a senseless tragic, tragedy" - - how eloquent)
- from July 2016 Gateway Student Conference video - link http://www.daystar.com/ondemand/legacy-video/?video=5049124395001
We discovered that there were, um, three men who, who broke into our house, while I was away, and um, uh, tried tuh, (15:06 shakes head "no") to steal some things
Can ANYONE explain how Davey can say (or why he would say) on April 24, 2016 that HE HAD NO IDEA ANYONE HAD BEEN IN HIS HOUSE- when
(1) the Resonate Church and Facebook page state (as early as November 11th) there was a home invasion / that someone had broken in to the house
(2) the Affidavit for Probable Cause gives clear evidence that someone other than Amanda, Weston and Mel was in the house that morning
(3) and in multiple other appearances Davey says there had been a home invasion, that people had broken into his house, tried to steal some things
? ? ?
Seriously. Read the transcripts and stuttering and stumbling in all of the appearances found on this blog page -it is so obvious that there is more to the story.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/06/11102015-i-had-no-idea-daveys-evolving.html
Thank you, Bobcat. I'm looking forward to hearing the 911 call and (watching? reading?) DB's statements on the stand.
Flightful,
Thank you for linking the "I had no idea - evolving story" blog.
It's a mess of highlighting but that just shows how many red flags are in DB's statements - and I didn't even highlight the deceptive words that invoke deity!
His statements are almost totally giant red flags of deception.
I don't know how/why Amanda stayed with him for as long as she did.
It has been said before but we must not forget the words in this blog post from May 9, 2916 titled "Weston, I Want to Tell You About Your Mommy" - link here -
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/weston-i-want-to-tell-you-about-your-mommy
where Davey flat-out assured Weston that the last time he saw his "mommy" was the night of November 9th - in these exact words -
She walked you upstairs the night before, sang to you, prayed with you, kissed you and tucked you into bed. And that was the last time you saw her.
Which raises the question of how Davey can be so sure that Weston and Amanda had no interaction that morning - or during the night - because Davey left for the gym at 6-6:10am - and Weston sometimes woke up in the middle of the night and didn't usually wake up until 8am?
How can he know for sure that that was the last time Weston saw Amanda, seriously?
The only way to know FOR SURE - is if Amanda was incapacitated at some point after she kissed Weston goodnight so there was no chance whatsoever of her and Weston crossing paths overnight or the next morning between the time that Davey "grabbed his gym bag and headed out for a workout" and when the attack happened / and when Davey walked back in to find his greatest nightmare sitting right in front of him.
There has been sensitivity in Davey's statements with respect to Weston's location - much emphasis that he was upstairs, um, up in his crib, still upstairs, softly cooing behind the still-closed door. It is all documented in the transcripts of the appearances - word for word.
The blog post says . . . you may wonder why every night around 8pm you get really sleepy, why every morning you wake up at 8am on the dot ready to take on the world. . . Your mommy and I read a book that helped us learn how to direct healthy sleep and feeding patterns for you. Even when it was tough and exhausting, she followed the plan. She would get up with you in the middle of the night.
So Weston is assured - along with the last time he saw his mom being the night of November 9th - that every morning he wakes up at 8am on the dot. How nice, although I doubt Weston is wondering why he gets sleepy or wakes up at whatever time. But what if Weston woke up before 8am on the dot on the morning of November 10th because of the commotion downstairs?
What if Davey, by saying so resolutely and assuredly to Weston that "that was the last time you saw her" and that "you wake up at 8am on the dot" was because Weston DID see Amanda that morning (in the condition she was in?) and this grieving pastor daddy is covering the bases for Weston's future memories and/or internet searches (which are SURE to happen).
The other, more "out there" scenario is IF Weston actually saw Amanda- maybe even from upstairs on the landing - could Davey be twisted enough to try to convince him (in a blog post that he will read in the future) that what he thought he remembered seeing that morning as a fifteen month old never actually happened?
Or was Weston under the influence of Zyrtec or some other medication that assured that he would sleep peacefully the whole time Davey was at the gym - and then wake up and coo softly when Davey returned?
Davey saying "and that was the last time you saw her". . . very much reminds me of Kenneth Wagner saying "and what you need to know about this story is. . . "
"She walked you upstairs the night before, sang to you, prayed with you, kissed you and tucked you into bed. And that was the last time you saw her.
Which raises the question of how Davey can be so sure that Weston and Amanda had no interaction that morning - or during the night - because Davey left for the gym at 6-6:10am - and Weston sometimes woke up in the middle of the night and didn't usually wake up until 8am?
How can he know for sure that that was the last time Weston saw Amanda, seriously?"
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Also, from the same blog:
"She gave her life so you could have yours. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she did what she had to do that morning to protect you."
How can he know beyond a shadow of a doubt?
Why did Amanda have to do anything to protect Weston if his door was still shut and he was cooing, completely untouched, completely unharmed?
Yes, his lack of anger up till the point he saw the photos is telling - he should have been outraged at what was done to his pregnant wife - it would be a natural reaction, even if they were not on the best terms, he would /should still have been shocked and angry that anyone would come in off the street and do that to a defenceless young mother.
'David Blackburn stated that the Swisher Sweet package should not be in their residence.'
That's interesting too - he doesn't say, 'whoever did this must have left them there' or, 'they are not mine' or 'I have not seen those before'. He doesn't say, 'They are not Amanda's' or 'Amanda didn't/wouldn't have know anyone who smokes those' - he did not deny any connection to the cigarettes/cigars for himself, but also does not 'clear' Amanda of possibly having any connection to them either Just they should not be there.
Also, stuff was out of place, knocked over. Again he made no effort to say intruders in his home did that - the stress of pregnancy, what? Taking up Swisher Sweets, trashing the place, tearing off her clothes, smashing her head on a cabinet, suffering a head wound.
Theorising - Could it have gone like this:
'You said your wife had an accident, Mr Blackburn?'
Yes, it looked to me as if she she had an accident.'
'Did it look to you like someone had been inside your home after you left for the gym, Mr Blackburn?'
'No, though a few things were out of place.'
'Your wife has a gunshot wound to the head, Mr. Blackburn'
'A gunshot wound? She was acting a bit crazy last night...'
'Do you own a gun?'
[unknown if he still owned handgun he received as gift]. 'There was an air soft gun for shooting away your worries, play-acting..'
'You didn't notice if anyone had been in your house?'
'Someone has been in my house?'
'You had no idea your wife had a gunshot injury to the head?'
'I thought something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy.'
'Did you notice anyone had been in your house?'
'Tell me it isn't so, detectives - I noticed a few things out of place, I though something was up, but I had no idea anyone had been in my house.'
'Do you think your wife was alone when she suffered the gunshot injury to the back of her head?'
'I thought something was up, but I had no idea anyone had been in my house - so, yes, I thought she was alone' -
(like as though he generally came home to a trashed house and Amanda unconscious in a state of undress with her tooth knocked out, lying face down in a pool of blood on the living room floor surrounded by credit cards and duct tape - cos that's how she rolled.)
Press conference:
How dare you take something from a dead person?
No-one has ever said what was taken from Amanda - still, there is no mention in the APC of a stolen or missing gun - or of what, specifically, was taken from Amanda - a dead person (though technically still alive).
'You're not as smart as you think you are'. - we know he went down the dead-end claim of first accident - (Perry Noble thought she had hit her head on the cabinet, others were told Amanda had an accident /head wound) then maybe, upon 'discovering' there was a gunshot injury to the head (they may not at first have told him there were three, to see if he might trip), he claimed (or it was suggested to him, and he agreed, which would not have been smart) that she somehow did it herself, then finally, overcome with 'disbelief', had to accept that someone had been in his house and done it to her. If he still owned a gun (likely), he maybe claimed or agreed she might have killed herself, but that the coincidental intruders must have stolen the gun, which is why he did not immediately know there were gunshot wounds. If he had given no indication of violence in the 911 call, he would have had to continue that when questioned - so he might have had to agree Amanda must have shot herself in order to maintain his 'ignorance' of anyone else having entered his house. As it would not be possible for her to inflict those injuries, Davey would not have been smart to have said or agreed she did or even might have - which, under pressure from detectives with a 'bunch of questions', he may have done.
Well, IDK. But it's interesting - Amanda 'suffered a gunshot wound to the head' and was 'tragically killed'. 'We're having church on Sunday just like we always do.' That doesn't sound like a husband describing a murder, and in his own earliest statements, no killers are mentioned. It might sound like someone trying to suggest something else. No-one is present in those statements except Amanda (and later the unborn baby). There is a change between the early and later statements on Nov.11 - by the later one he is including a home invasion. So, was he maybe willing for people to think Amanda had gone crazy and done all that herself? Well, last we know she had been laughing hysterically at dumb finds on Instagram - maybe he was trying to suggest that was a sign of mental instability, and she maybe woke up,laughing crazy, too....
- the claim it was an accident, his insistence he had no idea someone had been in his house, and the mystery of what was taken from a dead person. Not what was stolen from the thief's murder victim - it does suggest Amanda was already dying, or could have been mistaken for dead, when the item was stolen.
Was he maybe thinking or hoping by the first strange statements it might be counted as an accidental death or suicide? He'd still have a story and a tragedy to sell, if not of quite such impact. Was he bamboozled by investigators during that 'bunch of questions' into saying and explaining what he did, saw, said, and said he thought, in ways he has been trying to justify and explain ever since? We don't know how much of what they knew they withheld from him in the first couple of days - or what still they are withholding.
Flightful - re Kenneth Wagner - what we need to know about this story, and which he also said, but which Davey doesn't 'think we need to know' so much, is that 'it happened in the night' - and Kenneth thought that was 'impossible', and it could not have happened in the night, because he'd spoken on the phone for an hour with Davey the following morning, for an hour before Davey called 911.
I wonder if their continuing Tuesday conversations have been tapped, or if the detectives can't stand listening to Davey for an hour at a time either.
I expect the first responders had more than a fair idea that Amanda had lain there a very long time before they were called.
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RE: flightfulbird- Thanks for posting this! Interesting! AS much as I dislike hearing Davey speak about Amanda's murder, I hope he never stops.
"flightfulbird said...
Facebook November 23, 2015 - (link to entire carefully-prepared statement below this quote)
An Update from Davey and his family:
Though it does not undo the pain we are feeling, I was extremely relieved to get the news of the arrest made last night of Amanda's killer. The investigators have assured me they have a solidly-built case to ensure justice is levied and the process is expedited. The family and I couldn't be more thankful for the level of compassion and professionalism the IMPD and investigators have shown us through the last couple of weeks.
https://www.facebook.com/ResonateIndy/posts/1261346237224455"
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1. "Though it does not undo the pain we are feeling, I was extremely relieved to get the news of the arrest made last night of Amanda's killer.- Change in pronouns. In Davey's language, "we" share the pain, but he is the one personally relieved by the news of the arrest. Why? Is Amanda's family not relieved also by the news? Davey differentiates the pain as being shared but his relief takes precedence over Amanda's parents relief? That's unexpected.
2. "The investigators have assured me they have a solidly-built case to ensure justice is levied and the process is expedited."- Note his priority in establishing himself as spokesperson, and his priority is to be seen as being tight with investigators, a need to be seen as the source of information (speaks to control). It's in direct contrast to his previous statements of LE wasn't telling him anything they weren't telling the public. The investigators personally assured Davey? Why would Davey need to be "assured"? Solidly-built case? Was that Davey's wording or the investigators? I've heard investigators reference a case as "air-tight", but not "solidly-built" (a regional expression maybe?). Why is it important, now that Amanda's killer is caught, for the process to be expedited? From November 10-23, 2015, Davey expressed zero concern, fear, or worry for anyone else that a killer/multiple killers were at large in his neighborhood, subdivision, or community. Now that they are safely behind bars, he's concerned that the process is expedited? He seems to be working to portray that he's been consumed with worry and concern, when his own numerous media interview statements, sermons, Tweets, and Instagram posts evidence a different picture of a man busy parlaying the tragedy into a marketing campaign for his brand, through extensive networking and full-scale promotion.
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3."The family and Icouldn't be more thankful for the level of compassion and professionalism the IMPD and investigators have shown us through the last couple of weeks.- The family? Note the distancing language: not Our family or Amanda's family, but The family. This is how a professional refers to a family they do not know (i.e. An officer reporting in a newscast that a body was discovered- The Family has been notified.). Who is "the family" Davey is speaking of? Note the increase in distancing with "The family and I...". Davey's language says that he does not consider himself a part of whoever the family is. Linguistically, he separates himself. Why? This is unexpected as he began this statement using This is unexpected, given the many posts he and Amanda both shared before the murder about how much they loved both families and how much they interacted with both families (regularly shared vacations, extensive number of outings with in-laws on both sides, multiple shared interests, lots of "togetherness", etc.). This is particularly interesting in light of the extensive posts Davey has shared post-murder showcasing how close he is to Amanda's family and his own. This also feels like a need to persuade. Perhaps either everyone is not 100% aboard The Crazy Davey, Davey senses every family member doesn't fully trust him and all he says and does, or he's been playing them all along (pretending to be such a great family-oriented guy and they're his second family, blah-blah-blah)...or maybe all three.
4."The family and I couldn't be more thankful for the level of compassion and professionalism the IMPD and investigators have shown us through the last couple of weeks.- Order evidences priority. Note what Davey says they and he couldn't be more grateful for: the level of compassion shown to them, followed by professionalism. This is surprising in that I would expect a family to be primarily grateful for finding who killed my daughter/spouse/child's mother/sister./sister-in-law/best friend. Professionalism? What defines professionalism to Davey? Would you have an expectation of LE being unprofessional in a murder case? In what way? Does Davey consider them professional because they cleared him? Because they believed him? Because they let him get the house cleaned so quicky so he could sell it? Because they allowed him to leave town and travel to NewSpring within days of the murder?
RE: Hey Jude March 29, 2017 @10:50 PM
"Hey Jude said...
Press conference:
How dare you take something from a dead person?
No-one has ever said what was taken from Amanda - still, there is no mention in the APC of a stolen or missing gun - or of what, specifically, was taken from Amanda - a dead person (though technically still alive)."
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The only two things stated taken in the Affidavit of Probable Cause are the blue bag with the Mac and books and her Chase bank card. The odd thing is the level of outrage from the Policeman at this presser, making this statement. Indy has quite a few home invasions, robberies, and outright murders each year. Why is this one so markedly different? Surely, Indy robbers have shot someone before and continued to take what they wanted and left, leaving the person to die. That makes the thing taken/the manner in which is was taken extremely sensitive. People steal lapbooks every day from cars, classrooms, homes, schools. Likewise, people steal bankcards everyday and attempt to use them at ATMs. So, why the outrage? The only thing left that was stated was the books. I can't imagine an officer getting outraged over a few books. The emotion expressed seems disproportional to the suspects (a.k.a. "guys") that LE was thought to be addressing. That the suspect/suspects had escalated to murder surprised and offended the officer?
So, what was taken? Some have theorized sexual assault. Initially, LE announced they intended to charge Larry Taylor Jr with 3 counts of rape (http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/amanda-blackburn-suspects-charged-in-nov-3-burglary-assault). How did that change to "Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said there was “no sufficient evidence to file sexual assault charges.” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/23/ind-police-arrest-teen-for-rape-murder-of-pastors-pregnant-wife-amanda-blackburn/?utm_term=.3d88e043ed9b). What does that say about Amanda's condition prior to the crime and during the crime, about the crime or crime scene? Legally, rape is defined as a penetration, any degree of penetration (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-eric-holder-announces-revisions-uniform-crime-report-s-definition-rape). How did LE go from 3 counts to no sufficient evidence? These are seasoned officers. Does that infer that evidence of a rape (or 3 counts) existed, but that because the evidence could not be genetically linked to Larry Taylor Jr, he was not charged with sexual assault? It would be interesting to know LE's definition of sexual assault when it pertains to a married couple.
Fools,
The 3 counts of rape were for the Nov. 3 'practice' crime.
The victim's statement was a hot mess.
Also, an iphone was stolen from her. The iphone recovered with her other stolen items was New In The Box.
I wonder what the phone number on her old phone was, and if by chance, it was the 'unknown' number used on the 10th. Did the victim's phone from the 3rd become Davey's burner phone on the 10th?
I agree, Fools - it is a curious press conference, and they were so upset by the crime - it's that which makes me hold out hope they are not done with this case. Amanda was sexually assaulted, but there was not evidence to support that it was any of the suspects - one can draw from that it had to be classed as marital relations rather than rape, but their initial suspicion it was rape might remain.
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Incidentally, routinely saying 'the family' is usual in my neck of the woods. People ask after the family, even of another part of the same family, and refer to their own family as 'the family' - not always and exclusively, but mostly. The exception would be bereavements, illness, etc - then it will more likely be 'Our whole family' or "All of our family', or ,my family'. It's interesting Davey uses 'the family' at a time of family crisis, when 'our' or 'my' family would be more expected - he does not instinctively choose the more intimate term at a time when it would be most natural and appropriate.
So, yes, what was taken from Amanda? What other information is being withheld, and does Davey know what that is?
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Bobcat, thanks for your blog and timeline - it's very interesting to look at from this point in time, and such a good record of Davey's changing story.
Bingo, flightfulbird, Trudy, He Jude, Bobcat....all day, every day working themselves into a frenzy with their fabrications, dramatic fiction, fantastical theories, while stretching their "SA" to fit their hypotheticals.
The problem is, their "evidence" is confusing and contradictory. Davey shot Amanda, Davey hired the hit, Davey watched, Weston had Amanda's blood on him, Weston was in his room with the door shut and ignored by Davey. And this one is a good one: who else will turn up dead if Davey's plan is thwarted? BUT, there's always this: LE has evidence and is investigating Davey, but they're "watching" a murderer roam free, because they don't think he's a danger to anyone. (?????)
Lord. This is priceless, and there is SO much more! So much. I've barely touched the surface.
Meanwhile, all this wonderful....uh......statement analysis is presented in volumes and volumes of massively verbose dissertations.
Someone needs to make sense of your many theories and scenarios (bobcat, can you set up a page for that...we need clarification, and my goodness, who better?).
Anon @ 6:47
Interesting that in your list of "evidence", "Davey shot Amanda" came first. "Weston had Amanda's blood on him" came first regarding Weston.
Why do you call these 'theories' "evidence"?
Anon - there are many cases of domestic homicide where justice is delayed, a killer goes free and starts a new life; he may think he got away with murder, or with hiring a murderer, but his victim and his crime are not forgotten. The fact that he was free for many years does not mean he was innocent during those years - rather he had not been apprehended. It's quite a difference. Men who kill their wives are a danger to their wives - it's sadly sometimes only when the second or third wife also dies in suspicious circumstances that the earlier crime or crimes, which may have raised suspicion but could not be proved at the time, is/are revealed for what they were.
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Davey was told there was a blank cheque on solving Amanda's murder - I doubt that was as true as investigators would have liked it to have been. Still, that does not mean a solid case is not and can't be built, or that they are not biding their time. Yes, that may be wishful thinking, but it's deluded for anyone to imagine that Davey will not ever be looked at again in relation to Amanda's murder. Some determined investigator will keep at it, or discover it as a new case to them, or as an only partly solved crime, even if it is years down the line.
There maybe are more resources available just now - I read recently that Indiana hasn't had a murder in twenty days. The pressure must be intense, and the three awaiting trial might make it appear done and dusted, but that doesn't have to mean it is. There my
Any not come forensic evidence against the, excepting possibly a Swisher Sweets pack, which could have been picked up and planted by Davey.
That press conference was very interesting - the killer is still not as smart as they think they are - that won't have changed in the minds of those who thought that at the time. It's unlikely the three in jail considered themselves very smart, leaving an easy trail which led to Sunnyfield Court, and then to themselves. It remains to be seen whether it also led to Amanda Blackburn's murder - if it did, it was not them who also sexually assaulted her. Someone did, investigators said; it must have appeared an asssault for it to have been stated - yet Davey has not indicated he even saw Amanda since she was laughing hysterically at dumb finds on Instagram. Next morning she is found beaten, stripped, sexually assaulted, shot, a tooth knocked out - an extremely violent crime, which Davey did not notice. Still, she was still breathing, so he called 911 - well, as soon as he could.
What's in that call? Will we ever get to hear it?
Ha, good question, Bobcat.
Confused bit is meant to read - *there may not be any forensic evidence against them*
Resonate is accepting applications for summer internships. Davey would love to have a kid bring coffee to the gym for him and purchase more jock straps. SMH
Ok, so the dude with the mega house and fancy car is asking for MORE money! At the beginning of last weeks sermon he tells the audience that people from all over the world are watching Resonate online. He asks that if you are watching to please write in and tell DB how much Resonate ministry is impacting your life. Also that if it is impacting your life, consider partnering with Resonate financially either one time gift or possibley $20, $50, $100 a month. He explains that the help will get the content into people's hands in a more excellent way. Oh my gosh. I have a feeling Davey wants to be a tv evangelist. Just what the world needs! A corrupt tv evangelist preying on vulnerable people. If you guys would like to fatten Davey's wallet you can go to resonateindy/give today!
I think Anon/Fido is Davey's mom. Very similar writing style to the way she writes on her blog. She CAPITALIZES words for emphasis and uses a lot of exclamation points. And Anon/Fido is obviously very intelligent and uses correct grammar (very teacher-like).
Examples:
"The hypocrisy here is YUGE."
"This is priceless, and there is SO much more!"
"I can't stop laughing at that line to take in the rest of what you wrote!"
From her blog:
"We LOVE to have fun!"
"we encourage our students to make learning fun for the children in the classroom through exploration and play! "
http://brendablackburn.weebly.com/blog
https://kr.pinterest.com/brencb/
Davey really doesn't want to hear how Resonate Ministry is impacting my life - careful what you ask for, Davey. :).
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Ah, maybe someone will send him a youthful looking undercover cop as an intern. #forIndy. I bet that would be interesting. Nah, it probably would not be interesting, just free labour interspersed with singing 'worship' songs.
"I think Anon/Fido is Davey's mom."
Duh.
"Ah, maybe someone will send him a youthful looking undercover cop as an intern. #forIndy. I bet that would be interesting."
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It would be BRILLIANT!
Is there a younger sister of Davey?
His mom said there are only the two brothers, Davey and Jono.
https://vimeo.com/103353920
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/ever-with-me-week-1-zoom-out/
5:30 "Um, Kenneth has actally um, we, we, every Tuesday morning have a phone conversation, where we have, we just share, challenges that we’re going through leadership-wise. Um, we we share challenges we’re going through as a, as a dad, as a- um, before Amanda passed as a husband, and um. Uh, he was actually. I was actually on the phone with him, before I walked in, and found Amanda that Tuesday morning. So god has used him in my life, to continue to be a buffer and a shelter, in even the darkest of times. And, and so, you need to know that, he’s incredible in my life but he’s just an unbelievable man of god."
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A "buffer"?
He will lie and lie and lie some more for DB.
Here are just a few "honestly" expressions that KW used:
Let’s just be honest
If we were all honest
Can we be truthful for a moment?
...And this gem from very best friend Kenneth:
"I, I just kick people in the face."
His mom said there are only the two brothers, Davey and Jono.
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This is interesting.
She said "We have two boys."
She didn't say 'We only have two boys.'
I am curious. Is/Was there a younger sister?
If so, is she estranged or hidden?
Or...
Was there a third brother who died?
Or...
Was there a third brother who is estranged/hidden/????
She introduces Jono as "Our second son..."
Not 'youngest' but "second".
Was there a third?
shelter => cover => alibi
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think Anon/Fido is Davey's mom. Very similar writing style to the way she writes on her blog. She CAPITALIZES words for emphasis and uses a lot of exclamation points. And Anon/Fido is obviously very intelligent and uses correct grammar (very teacher-like).
Wow. Wrong all the way around. How do you do it???!!!
SA is not working for you.
Yes, though, I AM intelligent, and using correct grammar is easy (at least, it is for me).
Bobat, More uh's and um's from Davey when talking about that Tuesday morning. He can never talk about it without constant stuttering.
"Wow. Wrong all the way around. How do you do it???!!!"
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Seriously, that's your denial?
It's so unreliable; it's basically an affirmation.
So Fido, why don't you clear this up once for us?
Did or does DB have any siblings other than Jono?
From Davey's mom's little website: "Brenda Blackburn is a Child and Family Specialist and an Early Childhood/School-Age Education faculty member at Blue Ridge Community College in Flat Rock, NC. She is married to David Blackburn, the lead pastor at NEXT Church in Brevard, NC. Together they have 2 sons and 2 daughter-in-laws, and they are looking forward to becoming grandparents in August, 2014! They both enjoy hiking in the beautiful mountains of North Carolina." (Poor professional educator, Brenda....It's "daughters-in-law".)
I don't know who our persistent little Anon is but, whoever she is, she wants ever so desperately to stop our pathetic selves from suspecting Davey of a crime. She'll give you that he's a narcissist but that's all you get, friends. Not that it matters but my bets are not on Brenda but on Jockstrap-Acquiring-Meg or Maidservant-Ashley! Either way, I hope she has relaxing plans for the week-end; keeping up on here has to be stressful!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Wow. Wrong all the way around. How do you do it???!!!"
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Seriously, that's your denial?
It's so unreliable; it's basically an affirmation.
March 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^and this is why I don't put much stock in SA...especially in the hands of you people. As I've always said when I'm "analyzed" to be Davey, Meg, Perry, or Davey's mom, if you're that far off the mark, how reliable is any of your analysis? It makes you seem rather clueless.
I have a theory, though. Im pretty sure you are Larry Taylor's mom, trying desperately to shift the blame from him to Davey. Why else would you be so unconcerned with the real murderers....almost as if they didn't exist.
Quit protecting your guilty son.
Well, Concerned, Davey is Meg's meal ticket and she appears to take full advantage of those meals, so you may be right.
"I AM intelligent"...There you go again, Brenda.
Me2l/Brenda/Anon/(I'm Davey) at 7:56,
I am not Larry Taylor's mom.
Why' re people still responding to anon @6:47 insults and attacks?
She posted a link to derogatory comments about PH. (March 19 @6:13) When she was called out on her bullshit she (unreliably) denied it. She posted as Careful Observation Woman, questioning the value of SA training, then answered her own post, and when she was called out again, she simply ignored it, (despite the fact that it was SA that revealed her to be COW!) and launched into yet another attack on commenters on this site. Her thinking and debating style has proven, over and over again, to be unintelligent, illogical and dishonest.
Concerned,
The reason that I lean more toward Brenda than Meg or Ashley (aside from the fact that Meg and Ashley are busy raising Weston and cleaning Davey's Playboy Mansion)...
Brenda writes like a teacher.
Brenda is a teacher.
Brenda is also Brenda Lepchenko on facebook.
Brenda/Me2l had the SAME PROFILE photo a while back (it has since been changed or hidden).
Lepchenko is an anonymous pseudonym.
Lepchenko is a name in the tennis world.
Brenda's brother is a tennis coach.
Brenda was the youngest of six sisters and the daughter of a pastor.
Brenda Lepchenko on facebook belonged to a group "FreedJinger" which focused on Jinger Duggar 'escaping' the Duggar path of marrying young and popping out a dozen babies.
Brenda has only two children (that we know of).
Davey has described "condescending" and "mean" hypocritical two-faced people in his life, growing up in church...
We went over this a few weeks ago, and she got angry for being 'doxxed'.
This isn't doxxing, though. It's putting 1 and 1 together.
It's a bit leaky of crazy Davey to describe KW as a buffer (cushion or separation) isn't it?
He describes their relationship as mutual - sharing leadership, parental, marital, challenges - (NB. Sharing. Not one sheltering or buffeting the other)
and then says he was on the phone with KW BEFORE (nod to Brenda) he walked in and found Amanda,
And "SO, (note the word so) God HAS USED (past tense) him in my life to continue to be a buffer and shelter" "in even the darkest times"
In other words, Davey refers to KW buffering and sheltering him in the darkest times before the darkest times had even happened. Leaky.
KW was a very good choice for a buffering and sheltering alibi for a number of reasons.
The regularity (it was a normal Tuesday) of the phone call lends a sort of legitimacy to the alibi. However, the fact that Crazy Davey had not finished his workout that morning, much less had a shower, by the time KW called at the regularly scheduled time of 7:00am, indicates that crazy Davey was running significantly behind time on the morning of Amanda's murder; weakening the alibi.
I will hazard a guess and say that the call finishing later than usual ( at 8:17am instead of 8:00am) was necessitated by having to wait for Allison B to get home; further weakening the alibi.
Bobcat, all that does add up about Brenda.
Whoever she is, you just make her crazy!
The worst thing to happen to her would probably be for everyone here
to ignore her with no comments pro or con on her biting criticisms.
I hope you all will continue to comment on every Davey thread so
that when the book comes out and people google Davey's name,
they will read your words. Every book or CD he fails to sell hastens his exit
from "evangelizing" his own peculiar brand of religion to unwitting ears. Any
time a possible speaking opportunity goes by the wayside because of Davey's
online reputation is a good day!
Keep up the good work! And Davey will keep sputtering and leaking marbles
of guilt. His reckoning day is coming.
"A liar from childhood holds others in contempt. They believe, by virtue of expectation, that those they are lying to are beneath them, in the least, intellectually, which is why they have an expectation of "getting away with it" when they lie."
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2013/02/liars-contempt-highlighted.html?m=1
A certain commentor oozes contempt for everyone on these threads and SA in general. What I wonder is, could contempt make one look like a liar, even when one isn't lying.
The simpler answer is that one is a liar.
I'm here to tell you I weep on a monthly basis, on a weekly basis, when I talk to Davey...
Kenneth Wagner around 42.30 min into his talk at Resonate:
...we just look at the snapshots of our lives - and so often we get wrapped up in a moment that ends
I'm here to tell you I weep on a monthly basis, on a weekly basis, when I talk to Davey... up being about this long [holds up tiny length of rope] and in those moments when we're like, man, this is, this is seventeen for me, this is what God, this is, this is what - what the enemy, excuse me, will take me back to, this is what will be on my mind, and what I'm here and what I've been sent to tell you today, is that while we see this, I'm here to tell you that God sees the whole thing. That while we're sitting there busy focusing on this one piece of the rope, that God is saying , 'No, I don't just see this piece, I see the entire thing' - and some of you-you let me just speak to Resonate directly as a church, is that you believe that what happened sixteen months ago is all that this church will ever be known for - the tragedy of Amanda, one of the worst things that could ever happen, but I'm here to tell you that it's this much of the rope. That God sees the whole thing, and we'll never forget, we'll never leave that memory behind we'll never get over quite th-pain that maybe we feel, that maybe we experience, like - oh, no, no, you don't, you don't feel the same pain. I'm here to tell you I weep on a monthly basis, on a weekly basis, when I talk to Davey - I weep when a song comes on, and when something happens, I find myself, and so often I think, maybe this is all - this is what the enemy will make me think - the only thing that Resonate will ever be known for is that tragedy. And God is saying, 'That is not true, it's a lie from the enemy, he said I see the entire thing. He sees the city of Indianapolis being turned upside down, he sees the story going around the nation, through the album that you guys are writing, he sees the story going out through the book - and there's this ripple effect that's gonna happen - and lost people will find Jesus - not because of what happened here - because God is saying, 'I see the whole thing.'
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Davey is getting so fed up with the Amanda burden, he's got Kenneth in to help move things along - enough of Amanda already. Amanda is now just a snapshot in all their lives. It is a dreadful talk - it's obvious Kenneth was brought in to further Davey's new agenda, which is to help get Amanda out of the picture, (or at least reduced to a snapshot, which he soon can shut away in a little opened family album). Kenneth's take is in contradiction to all Davey's earlier claims that Amanda was sacrificed so his church would grow - Amanda's story would change lives all around the world, and it would cause revival. Now Amanda's significance is reduced to that of a snapshot, or to two-inches of Davey and Resonate's rope.
I liked that Kenneth brought a rope, though - was he thinking, consciously or otherwise, to help Davey along by giving him enough rope to hang himself....the tragedy of Amanda is only a tiny part of the rope, and no longer what Resonate will be known or remembered for. Sounds like the sacrifice was in vain.
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Also, did anyone note that Davey, in introducing kW, said he was 'actually' talking with Kenneth on the phone before he went into his house to find Amanda/his worst nightmsre/shower - forget which one it was this time. So, if actually means he had something else in mind, was he actually not talking only with Kenneth, but also someone else during that time - ismthst interesting?
^^ ignore the second bolder duplicate quote - it shouldn't be there, messed up formatting^^
Kenneth doesn't weep on a monthly or weekly basis for Amanda - just when he speaks to Davey, hears a song, or something happens.
What a weird thing to say, like weeping is part of a schedule. Plus, he's not quite sure if he weeps on a monthly or weekly basis - I'd guess neither.
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Who's Davey now, deigning to make a 'personal' appearance on his videos - acting like a mega pastor. Sort of 'build it and they will come', but without building it - showman putting on the appearance of a successful mega pastor. When the donations don't come in from the video followers from all around the world, will he have to accept that his audience are more his critics than his supporters?
"I'm here to tell you I weep on a monthly basis, on a weekly basis, when I talk to Davey - I weep when a song comes on, and when something happens, I find myself, and so often I think, maybe this is all - this is what the enemy will make me think - the only thing that Resonate will ever be known for is that tragedy."
"I'm here to tell you I weep" is not the same as saying he weeps. He's also inferring that he talks to Davey monthly - no weekly, but that's not what he says.
He's here to infer an alibi, and say that (here is where I agree with him) Resonate is more than the tragedy of Amanda's death. Even though Davey is a poor preacher with sermons that get docked two letter grades, God still reaches people at Resonate.
Why does crazy Davey linguistically connect KW's Tuesday morning phone calls with "buffering and sheltering?"
Buffering and sheltering from what?
I like the rope analogy, too, Hey J, for the same reason. (Give crazy Davey enough and...) And i liked the way KW told the audience he'd "been sent" to tell them that they only know a little, tiny, piece of the story of Amanda's murder. Very true.
EDIT
Why does crazy Davey linguistically connect KW's PRE MURDER Tuesday morning phone calls with "buffering and sheltering?"
Post murder, sure.
I made a partial transcript article of 3/27/2016.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/3262017-ever-with-me-week-1-zoom-out.html
I could be way off, but I think that after spending the first two thirds of the sermon following the 'script' Davey wanted covered, and selling the story, Kenneth comes to a point where he tires selling the story and lies and just wants to finish and get the hell out of there.
At 47:30, he checks his notes and slows way down after that point, to the end. He keeps shaking his head side to side and pursing his lips. His final prayer doesn't make much sense, and he doesn't even close with Amen. He just walks off the stage.
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I don't know whether Kenneth drove or flew home, but I wonder what he thought about on his trip home.
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I also wonder who posted this:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not buying it, Davey. Not buying it at all. You were no husband to Amanda and you are no father to Weston. You are a psychopathic killer. Game over, give it up already. Confess and try to save what remains of your soul.
March 27, 2017 at 1:12 AM
Poor KW. Sent to tell Resonate that what they need to know is that they don't know anything...and that's ok. Nice buffering and sheltering from KW.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not buying it, Davey. Not buying it at all. You were no husband to Amanda and you are no father to Weston. You are a psychopathic killer. Game over, give it up already. Confess and try to save what remains of your soul.
March 27, 2017 at 1:12 AM
Let me guess. You think the Davey saga/murder of his wife is being played out here where we are reduced to about four "sleuths" (and I use the term loosely) who have been entertained for months by creating multiple fiction stories that they believe have some effect on this case.
LOLOLOL
I'll remind you--according to LE, the case is solved. I'll also remind you that none of your evolving theories have panned out. In fact, apparently, very few people take you few seriously these days, as the waning attention has shown. You people do not deal in reality. Rather, you are determined to make the case fit your "analysis" (a big SA no-no>. It doesn't. It never has, and now, it's pathetically laughable.
Not a good testament to SA, which I originally thought was fascinating. In the hands of you and your clumsy attempts, though, it's been discredited--here, at least. I suppose that's why you're not in law enforcement but are only commenters on a blog, with hours and hours of daily downtime.
I now read for laughs and poke you with ridicule.
Above comment in reply to bobcat, who stupidly insinuates the comment I quoted is someone referring to Davey.
Join reality, folks.
Yes, he was sent - as in summoned by Davey to help shift the narrative away from Amanda. I think Davey's ego can't stand that for many people the focus will continue to be on Amanda's murder, to keep asking how he is managing, and to express sadness for Weston. He wants Amanda out of the story - she was meant to be a slingshot, not the real reason people turned up or tuned in to listen to Davey. He can't stick with his original narrative, that revival would happen because of Amanda - whatever happens with Resonate, it all needs to be about him, not because of Amanda - yet the album and the book are only due to Amanda. Interest in him is due to Amanda.
I don't think Kenneth likes Davey - he can't not be aware he was set up to be the alibi. Davey uses the phrase 'set up' twice during his introduction of Kenneth. Kenneth is trapped in Davey's story, and he is p*ssed off, and wants out of being Davey's buffer and shelter, IMO.
Davey maybe has something on Kenneth from way back in college days, and that's what makes them such great buddies. There'd have to be some reason why he would speak on the phone for an hour at a time to Davey every Tuesday - or say that he does. I don't believe they regularly did that, more Kenneth was set up for Tuesday convos a few weeks ahead of the murder, and they continue occasionally, to keep up the story. Kenneth has a successful church, he doesn't need bad publicity and associations. He maybe would like to kick Davey in the face for putting and keeping him into his story?
Bobcat said:
"I'm here to tell you I weep" is not the same as saying he weeps. He's also inferring that he talks to Davey monthly - no weekly, but that's not what he says.
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Yes!
Kenneth speaks poorly - is that a regular thing, or is it a result of his not wanting to be there? I can't imagine he would have such a successful church if that is his standard. I would've been disappointed by the sermon, given all the hype, if I was a young Resonator.
He is there under sufferance - he is not truthful about how often he speaks with Davey, also if he has personal grief for what happened to Amanda, he avoids saying it. Is that because he feels none, or because Davey wants the focus shifted from what happened to Amanda, and Kenneth, for whatever reason, is beholden to do Davey's bidding?
He's implying. You're inferring.
Anon, No need to bash us commenters quite so desperately - everyone who reads here knows the reliable Statement Analysis is found in the articles - there is no claim the commenters get it right, or are trained in SA.
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Also, with regards to reality:
Peter's opening line in current article:
'Analysis of words is not reality; it is the subject's verbalized perception of reality.'
Davey's (claimed) reality, with regard to what he 'discovered' in his house that morning, and of Amanda's condition, differed considerably from the perceptions of first responders and of LE. Davey found his wife having a miscarriage - others found the victim of a brutal murder. Davey was not dealing in reality, he refigured reality to make his own version of reality.
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Sometimes, one of us touches or hits on a nerve - any scrutiny is an annoyance to Davey. Davey tells many lies, and his wife died a violent horrible death on the living room floor of Davey's house. (That's Davey's house, just in case anyone imagined he might have thought of it primarily as his and Amanda's house and home). Interest in what he says, and in what those round him say will continue. He's already having difficulty with Amanda's legacy, and wanting to shelve it - it was only meant for a season. Just a season of slingshotting suffering and pain, a season to be walked through, opening on to the life of the successful rich mega-pastor. Some things are not so seasonal, or intended to be so seasonal as others.
Amanda was only twenty-eight, and pregnant.
You may ridicule.
Davey acts as though he won the lottery - virtually everything he says and does is an insult to Amanda's memory.
His physical appearance in the last video was embarrassing - his friends don't give him a clue. It's not as though he doesn't cut a dashing figure in a suit, yet he chooses to dress like an overgrown teenager. Perry did the same - cringeworthy. It's as though they are stuck as teenagers - they didn't quite make it to adulthood.
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Anon said: 'I'll remind you--according to LE, the case is solved.'
Hmm, but that's not always the complete story, some information about the case has been withheld - LE has its mysterious ways.
Davey's worldwide audience has yet to hear his 911 call. Will Davey be okay with that? Is he confident that's not going to change anyone's belief in him, or in his story? Is he sure everyone is going to believe that 'God's grace' protected him from the knowledge that anything criminal had occurred in his house, or to Amanda, as she lay dying, in a state of undress, with multiple gunshot injuries, and her tooth knocked out, on his living room floor?
I thought something had gone horrifically wrong with the pregnancy.
I thought we were just going to lose the baby.
I thought if we could just get her to the hospital...
I called 911 as soon as I could.
Amanda suffered a head wound.
She and her unborn daughter, Evie, were tragically killed.
We're going to have church on Sunday, just like we always do.
#thebestisyettocome
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'My kid's cuter than yours. Really.'
'Eyes, Daddy, eyes'.
'Weston, let ME tell you what you need to know about your mommy...and about the very last time you saw your mommy' (paraphrased)
That introduction video asking people around the world to start sending in money is laughable. I have a feeling that will start being a weekly thing before each sermon. It amazes me how he continues to believe he is such a rock star. Changing the world, thousands of people. NOW, start paying me for my greatness! I am that important! He knows he needs another avenue to become big. Attendance is still low, even after his destiny was "set-up" by the murder of his wife. He just can't stop with his greed for money, numbers and power.
Great posts and insights about Amanda. She can't disappear quick enough as far as Davey is concerned. Now it is time for the great rise of Resonate with Davey at the helm. International coverage via website, the emergence of Resonate Worship (the next Elevate worship) book tours and speaking engagements. The problem is most people were suspicious of him from the beginning. His live Facebook chat only had 50 people in attendance. There were only 2 comments on his last blog. I am shocked that he is getting some speaking engagements but with boob squeezes and crazy stage cakes, how long will they last? Time will tell.
Davey does not have a pastor's heart - it is numbers which excite him - higher numbers equals a higher income, more vacations, cars, living the high life. He's all about the money - Amanda was a fly in the ointment, her priority being the Kingdom, yet not by any means.
'Whatever it takes', says Davey. 'Whatever it takes which is moral', countered Kenneth. He's maybe indicating not to push him too much - he doesn't want to be the shelter and buffer to someone who thinks 'whatever it takes' - that slogan allows for anything. Kenneth knows he is being used.
Well, he must have known that for a long time - I wonder how well he sleeps at night.
It is sleight of hand, and creating an illusion - 'build it and they will come', yet without building it. He did once say he prefers taking shortcuts to putting in the effort. Young people maybe do not see through such things so readily - and people hate to admit they got someone wrong, and backed a wrong horse as it calls their judgement into question, they'd rather live in denial and continue in the delusion, especially if they have made friends there. Some then - it seems most don't stay very long.
Kenneth's comment about kicking people in the teeth was odd - any thoughts, anyone?
I need to watch the sermon. I was sick to my stomach after the plea for international money from Davey. I am so curious about the tweet from Kenneth. Did Davey tell him to tweet that morning to encourage others to have accountability? (something manipulative?) He didn't really have to tweet anything to help Davey's case. Phone records would prove they were on the phone together. I just don't have the sense that Kenneth was involved in any cover up although some of this statements are odd. What must it be like for Kenneth to come speak at Resonate and see the small numbers when he so quickly grew his church.
What about the duct tape? - maybe that was what held him up. Even Davey would know you can't fix a miscarriage or put a tooth back in place with duct tape.
Some things seemed out of place. He didn't notice it was a crime scene, though he was taking mental snapshots of everything which seemed out of place. Cos you'd need to be mentally documenting the place like a crime scene if all you thought was that something had gone wrong with the pregnancy, and you were 'just' going to lose the baby. Despite he said that she was 'still breathing' - which indicates he knew she was close to death. He called 911 when he could. He just sat by Amanda listening to Weston cooing upstairs in his room. Then at some point, he dialled 911, because it was as soon as he could. Maybe it took a while to take all those mental snapshots relating to the horrific miscarriage, where Amanda lay face down in a pool of blood. Anyone's first thought would be miscarriage - not.
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Well, enough ranting for now.
Bingo - I think Kenneth has been used - he wasn't knowingly involved, is probably sick to his stomach by it also. I hope you watch the sermon - a lot of anger bubbling away under the surface there, methinks.
Davey says in his introduction of KW that they both met Jesus on April 1. Anyone surprised that Davey met Jesus on April Fools Day?
Kenneth is a better pastor than Davey. He majored in Religion, where Davey majored in Communication.
They both had dirty pasts by the time they met in college.
The big difference is that Kenneth ADMITS to making "the worst decision of my life" at age 17, and "hustling", and fighting. He even said if you knew some things, it would "scare" you. Kenneth is no saint, but he admits a dirty past. Davey hides his past. Maybe he and Davey confessed their crimes to each other in college. Maybe not.
Davey blogged:
"In college my buddy Kenneth and I used to talk about how we wanted to live such noble, dangerous lives for the Kingdom of God that our names would climb to the top of the enemy’s hit list. I’m not sure I would ever actually pray this, and to be honest when we’d say it out-loud we would always hesitate as we let it set in what that could entail."
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/how-do-you-deal-with-the-way-amanda-died-part-2
I think Kenneth willingly provided the tweet Davey requested Tuesday morning, not realizing until after the fact why Davey asked for it.
He lives a long way away with a growing congregation and a young son that he appears to love very much. How long will he stay quiet? Will he fall like Perry Noble?
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