Friday, October 21, 2016

Amanda Blackburn Murder: Post Crime Behavior



One element of analysis that is particularly difficult is "attendant deception"; that is, one is deceptive about one thing, but not another.  

In many major crimes, lesser crimes are committed "in attendance" to the major crime and can show up in statements.  In other cases, substance abuse often multiplies crimes, making it more difficult, not to spot guilt, but to assign it.  

For example, in a missing and murdered child case, the father was deceptive.  Yet, he was not the killer; a sex offender was.  His deception was indicated while his daughter was missing, but it later proved to be deception about negligence due to substance abuse, allowing for his daughter to wander off.  

Deception and Guilt in Language 

We (a team of analysts) strongly discussed the deception within the language of Davey Blackburn.  Although he is likely hiding SSA, there was too much deception related to the timing of the crime, suggesting knowledge that his home would be hit by criminals, with the necessity of the almost 40 minute delay.  

Regarding the case,  I have yet to find a single professional investigator who disagrees.  

With SSA, there can be lots of varying topics of deception, from his marriage, to the teaching of Christianity, right down to his public image, that he is acutely aware of and actively refining.  

Since his wife was killed "for the church", he has sought to fulfill this "mandate from god" (he is not delusional, hearing voices; he is deceptive).  This is where he was naked in the shower hearing from the Almighty what a great and historical figure, he, Davey, is, and what great accomplishments await him.  He has been shamelessly promoting and exploiting her death since, but there is something more:

Perhaps Amanda's restraints upon his "success" were more than what he indicated when he told us  that she stood in the way of success because she wanted his time and attention.  

Sociopathic and narcissistic behavior seek justification.  We see this in analysis with subtle insult or blame shifting to the victim. 

From Blackburn's own wording:   3 intruders did not murder Amanda, Amanda "gave her life" in "martyrdom" so that "the church would have life." 

Recall in his "shower revelation" (criminal psychology and statement analysis recognize the need for cleansing) where he then set the stage for shifting responsibility to others, should he not become the historic figure the Almighty 'told' him he would be.  He targeted the church audience, and his father-in-law, of whom he insulted for his work produced "dead" Christians.  If he failed, he would have others to blame; not himself.  The lack of personal responsibility is a strong trait of liars.  

Amanda As Hinderance To Success 

Although Amanda, who in video appearances presented as a lovely and authentic believer in Christianity, allowed for a ready-to-use excuse, she was, he told us pre crime, a hinderance to his self defined success. 

His subtle contempt for her was evident in the videos by his language, demeanor and even in his body language.  He interrupted her, corrected her and even his comparative language "of success", using his own rebuttal, show an obsession with numbers.  Scripture teaches joy in heaven from one sinner repenting, "but", as he used in public video, his numerical goal was not met.  This was a video that produced the pronoun "I" in his language  a dramatic change from the incessant use of "we" in his televised appearances.  This nullifies the claim of mental illness.  

With the new videos and blog postings we see a more defined effeminate appearance and deeper choreographic work in the videos as he 'out Elmer Gantrys' Burt Lancaster's character.  The appearance of the narcissistic showman has increased and the self promotion to "help" the Almighty has become emboldened.  

He told us, in his own language, that he was obsessed with numbers for his success.

He told us that his wife did not meet his sexual needs and that she hindered him because she wanted him around, keeping him from his self defined success. 

He openly complained about her in a most humiliating and demeaning manner, while he expressed an acute need to make certain his public knew he was heterosexual.   

He video taped himself waving a gun. Shortly after, his wife died from the use of a gun.  

He followed a strict daily and weekly workout routine, all but once, the very day  his home was entered and his wife killed. 

He told the public that she was not murdered, but "martyred" and that "she died so the church could live", supplanting the redemptive work of Christ. 

That he publicly told that Amanda could not meet his sexual needs and that he was directed by the Almighty, while naked in the shower receiving information on his own greatness, combines sexuality with the need to be cleansed from guilt.  

We now take these things, along with consistent deceptive indicators in the public statements and we look at the post-crime behavior. 

This has raised a question that needs an answer: 

Has the restraining influence of Amanda now been removed from Blackburn?

Is it more than just in the element of her taking up his time?

As he continues to write, he continues to reveal more information about himself, and about the crime.  

It would be interesting to learn:  What does the victim's family think of the 'new' Davey?

Is her family continuing to read what he says about their daughter? Had a man publicly announced that his wife does not meet his sexual needs would trigger a very strong response from most families, in particular, fathers.  Yet, Blackburn publicly subjugated his father in law with insult.  

Is her family watching the videos showing a visible and audible transformation now that their daughter is out of the way?

Blackburn's  language indicates a need to justify her death.  It is not just used for commercial advantage.   

As he continues this path, I expect an increase, even in spite of various pauses or warnings that cause a pause.  As numbers grow, he will alienate Christians who will no longer be able to dismiss his claim of Amanda being the substitutionary death for the Church to as just the wild emotional swing of a man deep in bereavement.  This means he will have to continue to change the Biblical message into the 'gospel of davey'; that is, to tailor the message to fulfill the messenger's insatiable appetite for fame, power, control and fortune.  

Christians, too, see the insult to Christ in his words, even now, as he continues his promotion.  Early on, some felt the need to defend him but as he continues to assault Christianity, commenting has shown a change.  Although many did not consider him Christian based upon his teaching, others may have excused the teaching as errant, while maintaining that he still may believe in the basic teachings of Christianity.  

Will he continue this pattern?  Will the outfits, designed sets, choreography, polishing,  and showmanship continue?  Was this what his mentor intended to communicate when he said that "something was wrong" with Blackburn and it was something a woman "could fix"?  

Beneath the deception is the unknown, which, over time, makes its way to the surface, like the "Tell Tale Heart."  

As numerical success increases, the successful  alienate their own selves and insulate themselves from criticism and will endlessly excuse their own behavior, even as his mentor has shown recently.  Even the "mea culpas" not only minimize, but actually shift blame to others.  Other times, the mea culpa is so 'over the top' that the need to persuade becomes transparent, even without analysis.   

Post criminal behavior and post crime behavior are both noteworthy.  


Was Amanda a restraint upon Blackburn, protecting him from himself, and now removed?  

Was the protection from self only due to sexuality and time constraints, or is it much deeper?

Time will tell.  

Amanda Blackburn was not a "martyr", nor did she "give her life" for any cause. 

Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide

It was her husband who stated that he received communication from God, while naked, in the shower, being cleansed.  




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mom2many said...

"How can you, how can you; how DARE you, take something from a dead person and want to sell it!"

What do we know was taken from Amanda in order to sell? Her journal, her story, her faith.

Let LE's outrage speak for itself.

Don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I doubt these were what the officer was referring to. However, there is nothing in the affidavit that was taken that belonged to Amanda, other than her bank card.

The outrage is all the more disgusting that such personal, integral parts of Amanda are being sold by her husband, the one person entrusted to protect her, by his own words.

Davey's pimple said...

Oh come on, they sold the computer belonging to the rape/robbery victim and likely sold or tried to sell the computer they stole from the Blackburns, too. The affidavit clearly states their computer was stolen along with the bank card. Everyone ASSumes it was Davey's computer, not Amanda's, because they want to support their narrative that Davey disposed of the computer to hide evidence rather than it being stolen. The fact is, that could very well have been Amanda's laptop, or one they shared.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative!

Trudy said...

Actually the evidence doesn't put the thugs in the house at the time of the gunshots, they were at the ATM. It could only be Larry Taylor who was in the Blackburn home at the time of the gunshots according to N. Tank's evidence.

Who is the "everyone" that assumes the stolen computer was Davey's, and disposed of by Davey? The stolen computer was about the only thing that actually made Amanda's murder look like a botched robbery. Computers were taken from Jacola S and Allison B, as well.
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I think LT was contracted to execute Amanda. Others here may have different ideas about what happened that day, and reading the different hypotheses, is interesting. Reading the ill considered, ill informed, ill bred mutterings of some inexplicably offended half wit is considerably less so.


Trudy said...

I wonder if crazy Davey is still having his computer use monitored and being held accountable for the sites he visits, or if Amanda's murder suddenly cured him of his unsavoury Internet interests. (Not that it matters with all the apps he knows about.)

Trudy said...


"How can you, how can you how dare you take something from a dead person and want to sell it.?"

I don't understand why the officer seems more outraged over the theft than the murder. I really don't.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

The theft of items from someone already dead is adding insult to injury to the surviving family members and friends, so to speak. From the officer's language, Amanda's death was a foregone conclusion, meaning that due to the evidence collected at the scene (in conjunction with interviews conducted of the 1st Responders), she had been "technically" dead for some time. If we're going by the Officer's words, she was "technically" dead before the blue bag containing a Mac Book Pro and some books and the bank card(s) were stolen "from her/her presence".

Does that mean Davey shot her? Not necessarily. The only real issue I have with Davey's timeline is that it doesn't take 1hr and 45 min to "spend about 10 minutes in the Word", then pray a short prayer "for your wife and child's safety"(he detailed the prayer, it was short), "grab your gym bag/clothes", and "head out to workout". According to his oft-repeated story and the Affadavit, he didn't eat/fuel his body for the workout (that's unheard of in the serious fitness world). He didn't have his well-documented must-have morning coffee with his Bible study. If he'd had marital relations with Amanda, he'd have said so proudly, "smokin" what he's sellin' ". So, what was he doing for 1 hr and 45 min? More importantly, what was Amanda doing? He has yet (15 months later) to tell any audience or Resonate where Amanda was from 4:30-6:10 a.m. or what she was doing. If she was still sleeping, how hard is that to say?

Trudy said...

Thanks FFOF,

The way it's worded makes it sound like Amanda was already dead when the thugs walked in ie. They didn't kill her, but they took something from "a dead person".

The complete absence of Amanda, Weston and Mel and the unaccounted for time in the morning is very interesting. Why get up at 4:30am for a long day if you're not going to use the time productively?

Maybe he was having second thoughts? There was still time to call it off.

Bobcat said...

"Maybe he was having second thoughts? There was still time to call it off."

I think that when DB says he spent time in "The Word", he is not talking about reading the bible.

word = acknowledgement, agreement, conversation, short talk, information




Anonymous said...

from Justice Seekers fb

Kathy Sizemore Wilkinson (Gavin's mother)

"The delay in the driveway was talking to one of his pastor friends, which he did often. Amanda had asked Davey to not come in the house when he was on the phone in the mornings because it would wake Weston up....no red flag whatsoever."

March 7, 2016 at 12:46pm

Anonymous said...

Imagine that.

Anonymous said...

Except Davey has already said that Weston normally wakes at 8 AM "on the dot" so he should have assumed Weston would already be awake that morning he sat in the driveway until 8:30.

Nice try, Gavin's mom.

Anonymous said...

So......you believe Davey? I thought he was a liar.

I see

You believe when it is convenient for you and fits your narrative.

SMH

Anonymous said...

I see. So, It's Amandas fault that Davey sat in the driveway on the phone while she lay dying inside. Got it.

Anonymous said...

You have contradicted yourself by selectively believing Davey........when it fits for you.

Giant fail.

Trudy said...

Your insistence on an 'all or nothing approach' to believing statements is refreshing, flying as it does, in the face of reason.

You can't analyse one statement, conclude crazy Davey is deceptive about it, and extrapolate that all CDs statements are deceptive. Well, you might, (and to be fair he does have form) but don't accuse others of doing it.

I don't know if Amanda asked cd not to talk on the phone in the house in the mornings. She may well have, if he didn't have the sense to lower his voice while his toddler son slept, upstairs, behind a closed door.

Weston was on Babywise since birth. In one of cd's blogs he speaks directly to Weston about why he (Weston) wakes on the dot of 8:00.
The 8:00pm to 8:00pm schedule with naps-between has been mentioned by cd numerous times, in sermons and blogs, with special reference to Babywise.

It's irrelevant anyway. Gavin's mum (bless her) thinking that there are no red flags with Davey sitting in the car in the driveway that morning for almost an hour isn't taking into consideration his whole timeline.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Assuming that poster has any validity (and that's a huge leap in Cyber world)...

1. How would Gavin's mom know what Amanda told Davey?

2. Who told Gavin's mom that? Amanda, herself? How did Amanda's sister's mother-in-law come by that information? Second, third, or fourth-hand?

3. Why did someone tell Gavin's mom that? Did someone just volunteer that information out of the blue or did someone ask Davey/Gavin/Amber about that particular point?

4. Of all the things to be concerned about that morning, why wasn't Kathy more curious/concerned about Davey leaving the front door unlocked pre-dawn with a pregnant wife and sleeping toddler in his rush to head for a workout?

*Random Thought: Nothing to do with Davey's guilt or innocence at all here, just me pondering. I'm just trying to understand this because it's bothering me. In his account of the morning, Davey gives the impression of busyness/being hurried with: "Tuesdays are my long morning", "had a lot going on that day", "grabbed by gym bag/gym clothes", etc. He gives the impression of being hurried and going from one thing to another and yet, his well-documented, oft-repeated account fails to support that with huge time gaps unaccounted for. By itself, that might not seem odd, but Davey loves to talk (especially about himself). He loves to elaborate on personal details of his sex life with Amanda, his workouts, his morning Bible study devotion-sermon prep time, his love of fireplaces with morning coffee,etc. So, what about that morning was different that there are unexpected gaps?

Anonymous said...

"So......you believe Davey? I thought he was a liar.

I see

You believe when it is convenient for you and fits your narrative."

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The narrative is told by Davey, and it is full of holes.

He led Gavin's mother to believe that he sat in the car because he didn't want to wake up Weston.

He told Gauntlet that Weston "would wake up" at 8:00.

It's DAVEY'S STORY, not "your" (or anyone else's) "narrative", and it is full of holes and lies.

Is that all you have?

Those lonely SA people have made up their own "narrative"...boo hoo poor Davey, people making up stories about him, using his own conflicting statements...narcissist pity ploy.

Pathetic.

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Bingo said...

From FOF:"Tuesdays are my long morning", "had a lot going on that day", "grabbed by gym bag/gym clothes", etc. He gives the impression of being hurried and going from one thing to another and yet, his well-documented, oft-repeated account fails to support that with huge time gaps unaccounted for.

He gets up at 4:30 and leaves at 6:10 explaining Tuesday is his long day. He then tells us he sat on the couch for about 10 minutes in the word, grabbed his bag and headed out to the gym. There is never any other explanation for the time. I agree that he needed to have a reason for his lights being on just in case a neighbor noticed them. IMO, that time period is VERY sensitive. What was going on in that house?? I have a feeling something very bad happened between 4:30-6 or Davey was very busy making sure something bad was about to happen. Poor Amanda. I would love to get Peter's opinion on his statements of that time period including about 1:20 minutes unaccounted for. (during the crimewire) Also, there is something sensitive about the bag. There is no reason to tell us he grabbed his bag. Then there is the invisible Amanda. No mention of her that morning until she appears before him in a pool of blood. There is no mention of Weston until Davey finally mentions him in a blog cooing upstairs behind the closed door. Unexpected! A normal grieving person talks about the last time seeing their loved one and also how quickly he could get to his son and make sure he was safe. As I write this I am still amazed that ANYONE believes this guy especially Amanda's family.

Trudy said...

He doesn't say 10 minutes; he says some time.

Trudy said...

Otherwise, exactly! I'm amazed too, Bingo.

Bingo said...

He does say 10 minutes at one point in a blog or sermon something. I will try to find it

Bingo said...

"Get up around, about 4:30 in the morning, and uh, spend some time, um, in the word, and um, you know, I’ve just found that, the best way to put a good lens on your day is even just spending like ten minutes, reading your bible, you know. I don’t always understand it, but I at least am like, trying to, to get something there so I, spent some time in the word that morning""

Ok, this is where I remembered the 10 minutes.

Anonymous said...

In other words, he didn't say 10 minutes in the context you were trying to imply.

But you know what......I bet law enforcement doesn't have access to any of your evidence, and that's why he's running around a free man. They need to listen to you handful (3? 4?) of people. What are they thinking????

Concerned said...

When I think about Davey not checking Weston's room but
looking around and mentally cataloging the Swisher Sweet
package and the household items in disarray, I struggle with
why he didn't fly up the stairs and throw open his son's door.

I know I would have been worried that Weston (who always woke
up at 8:00 AM, right?) had been unattended for a good while or
that whoever injured Amanda was upstairs with him (as he cooed!).

So much unexpected behavior.

Bingo said...

Anon, if you are connected and know more please give us information to enlighten us. I can't imagine if I hated to hear others discuss something so much, spending the time of getting on this thread several times a day and letting us aggravate you so much. If you do know Davey and would like to give us more insight, we would really like the information to why he is innocent. Give us your side. Give us some information! We aren't going to stop discussing. If you really want to get aggravated, listen to Crime Wire. You will see there are more than 4-5 interested in the case.

I think him saying that he spends about 10 minutes in the Word gives us a good idea of how much time he spent that morning or he wouldn't have said that.

flightfulbird said...

And I still would like to know why Davey didn't roll out of bed that morning and throw on his gym clothes first, before "spending time in the word" and praying for safety for Amanda and the yet-unborn baby - (but not for Weston's safety) - and doing whatever else he had to do before leaving for the gym.

Why grab your gym clothes (he has alternated between saying he grabbed his gym clothes vs grabbed his gym bag) and head out for a workout and THEN have to change into your gym clothes after the fifteen-twenty minute drive to the gym?

It would've saved time that morning if he had just been wearing gym clothes already while he was driving to LA Fitness and could get right into training once he was there - - especially since he was running late and knew he had a scheduled phone call with Kenneth Wagner from 7am to 8am that day.

He left at 6:10am - arrived at LA Fitness around 6:30am (?) - jumped on the phone with Kenneth Wagner "as he was finishing his workout" - which a serious lifter wouldn't do - training is a priority - they would schedule training around the phone call or vice versa, not try to finish up and talk at the same time - much less cut it short, to only like 30 minutes in this case. I agree this was because he didn't want to disrupt or call attention to a delay In starting the phone call in case Kenneth Wagner was questioned later about any variations from the usual routine and time.

Kenneth Wagner was very insistent in his statement that "what you need to know about this story is that me and Davey would speak every Tuesday from 7am to 8am" (might not be exact words, from memory).


And yes to Bingo's words to anon (or the various anons) posting here -

If you do know Davey and would like to give us more insight, we would really like the information to why he is innocent. Give us your side. Give us some information! We aren't going to stop discussing.

Anonymous said...

Give you information as to why he's innocent? Well, for starters, if you think LE has not been investigating him, you're nuts. They have nothing. YOU have nothing.

He left the door unlocked.

He sat in the car 40 minutes.

He's an arrogant, narcissistic POS.

He appears to not have been the most thoughtful of husbands.

He's a crappy preacher.

He seems to be rather unfeeling about Amanda's death.

His actions are interpreted here as having used Amanda's death as a springboard.

I'm sure I'm missing some of your "evidence."

On the other hand, it was confirmed Davey was at the gym when Amanda was murdered.

No physical evidence whatsoever has been linked to him.

Perps have not given any information about him or whomever "hired" them, if indeed, it WAS a hit.

You have NO evidence. You merely have an intense dislike of the narcissist. (I don't blame you)



flightfulbird said...

On the other hand, it was confirmed Davey was at the gym when Amanda was murdered.

When Amanda was murdered. . . we don't actually know when Amanda was murdered. One neighbor making a statement that she heard two gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream during the timeframe that supports Davey's being seen on camera - that's not enough. There were THREE gunshots, when did the third one happen - or did Natasha Jones Tank just miss hearing the third one?

We KNOW Davey was at the gym that morning - he's been spouting that from the very beginning - even made a newer version of the same post on Facebook on the morning Amanda died to open with the fact that he was AT THE GYM ! To quote fromLegally Blonde, the judge said "I believe the witness has made it quite clear that she was in the shower" - the few of us who are interested in this case are quite clear that Davey was at the gym during a certain timeframe.

This does nothing to eliminate the possibility of a carefully plotted and orchestrated hit.

Also, if we are quite clear that Davey was seen on camera at the gym on that morning between the hours of 6:30am and 7am (7:10am).

This does nothing to rule out the possibility that Amanda was murdered before he made it to the gym.


It's his alibi and this is why he is so insistent on repeating it over and over and over and over and over. . .I cannot wait to hear the 911 call. I can't imagine his NOT saying he just walked in from the gym at the beginning of it.

Anonymous said...

"You merely have an intense dislike of the narcissist."

Like, intense dislike, merely, narcissist, blah blah blah.

Ask DB what he was doing at 4:30 am on 11/10/2015.

4:45 AM?

5:00 AM?

5:15 AM?

5:30 AM?

5:45 AM?

6:00 AM?

Let's hear it.

Anonymous said...

There may be a very interesting line of questioning for DB as a possible earwitness/eyewitness of the goings-on on Sunnyfield Court on 11/10/2015.

He was up at 4:30.

Did he get up at 4:30 every Tuesday?

What was the street normally like during those early dark mornings?

The time period when the neighbor's alarm system was disabled should be interesting, as well as 5:59 - 6:02 AM.

Did he hear anything unusual that morning? Any car noises? If not, why not? If sound recordings pick up car noises, why didn't DB hear them?

Did he see anything unusual that morning? Any headlights?

It would be interesting to take ambient noise recordings from within 2812 Sunnyfield Court at 4:30 AM, 5:30 AM, and 6:00 AM. Then take noise recordings of a car speeding to the neighbor's house, loading TV's, and then speeding away.

Go in to 2812 with the same type of curtains and lighting, at 4:30 AM, and drive a Sebring up the street and part it at the neighbor's. Recreate all of the known vehicle movements with the lights driving in and out of Sunnyfield. Ask DB what lights were on at his house and if the curtains were drawn etc. Make a video of where DB says he was at the time cars were entering and exiting Sunnyfield.

Do headlights show up on the video?

Did Davey notice any headlights?

If so, were they expected? Was he at all curious, especially considering the neighborhood watch program?

Did he notice a strange car at the neighbor's house when he left for the gym?

There are a lot of good questions that can be asked of Davey that pertain to him possibly witnessing the criminal movements on Sunnyfield - since he WAS "UP".

His answers would be revealing.

Anonymous said...

said...
"You merely have an intense dislike of the narcissist."

Like, intense dislike, merely, narcissist, blah blah blah.

Ask DB what he was doing at 4:30 am on 11/10/2015.

4:45 AM?

5:00 AM?

5:15 AM?

5:30 AM?

5:45 AM?

6:00 AM?

Let's hear it.
February 17, 2017 at 11:32 PM






Yeah, because I doubt LE has asked that.

Anonymous said...


It's his alibi and this is why he is so insistent on repeating it over and over and over and over and over. . .I cannot wait to hear the 911 call. I can't imagine his NOT saying he just walked in from the gym at the beginning of it.




Yeah, because LE hasn't heard it, and wren they release it in theaters, then EVERYONE WILL BE SHOCKED when it reveals the real killer--Davey Blackburn!!!

Then, the case will be solved for LE, and you handful of commenters can have a happy ending.

(Hmmm. I'm kinda surprised LE hasn't listened to the call by now. I mean, once they do....case solved. I guess they've missed so much evidence already, a little old 911 doesn't mean anything to them. Clutzes.)

Bingo said...

Peter mentioned that he will be talking about why justice wasn't done in this case and why the police have not been able to connect him to the hit men. He has said over and over that the police should have immediately polygraphed him and they did not. I think LE certainly dropped the ball on that one. They didn't even have suspects in custody and cleared DB, didn't polygraph him and let him leave town. He headed toward SC and established his business Nothing is Wasted. Not suspicious or unexpected behavior at all! SMH

Anonymous said...

Good post, Bobcat. Has LE released all of the security video of cars driving down Davey's street. Have we seen the thugs car when it first entered? Davey's car leaving for the gym? The neighbor's car returning home to find her house robbed? Davey returning from the gym? Is the thugs car going very slowly down the street, looking for "opportunities" or did they just turn down Davey's street and head straight for Davey's neighbor?

Anonymous said...

Bingo, Justice according to who?

What is justice in this case? That the theories here are true and factual, and anything else is a miscarriage of justice?
The evidence does NOT fit these theories. If DB were arrested on the basis of all the guess work here, THAT would be injustice.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 9:28 am, why don't you tell us whether or not you know Davey and why you are so invested in this discussion board? Davey has not been arrested (or even charged) so why waste your time here trying to disprove our theories?

Anonymous said...

Question for the earwitnesses Natasha Tank.

Was she aware of the neighborhood watch program? If she heard what "sounded like" gunshots and a woman's scream, why didn't she call 911? Was she sleeping when she was "in bed" on Sunnyfield Court? Why was she at the home on Sunnyfield? (Her husband at the time had a home in a different part of town.) Was there anyone else in the home with her? Who owned the home?

Trudy said...

Peter Hyatt, (remember him? This is his blog) has indicated that he believes cd has guilty knowledge and that it may be many years before he is brought to justice. IIRC he said it may be 30 years. He has said that it is unlikely LE is investigating and that, if they have suspicion, they will not go to the DA without a solid case. Peter intends to explain why this is so, on CRIME WIRE. Please listen to it.

Do you read what Peter writes? Have you read the APC in this case? You are often wrong about the facts in this case and appear to either not comprehend, or not agree with, Peter's SA. I'm tired of correcting you and explaining things to you (which you demand, almost daily.). I've answered your inane questions (do you think you know more than LE? If Davey is guilty why hasn't he been arrested?) time and time again but you seem incapable of reason. When your mistakes are pointed out, you do not apologise but flail around for another poorly understood (by you) aspect of the case and harangue, abuse and attack -yes attack- commenters. You are a waste of time.

flightfulbird said...

Please remind me, has there been ANY evidence that actually places one or more of the three thugs in the Blackburn house ? I am not sure that Larry Taylor’s testimony is accurate- why would he say he was there if he wasn’t - yet why would he voluntarily say he was there if he was, either - wouldn’t he wait to be found out by evidence?

Evidence other than Davey so helpfully saying that Larry Taylor "was the one who actually pulled the trigger on Amanda"? (such a cavalier and insensitive way to refer to your "ministry partner and best friend" - as opposed to your WIFE - being killed). So much more dramatic, Davey's choice of the words "pulled the trigger on" as opposed to saying “the guy who killed Amanda” - or even “the guy who shot Amanda”. Actually his choice of words (to me anyway) indicate less feeling, less hurt, more insensitivity, even enjoyment - similar to his ongoing graphic descriptions during his appearances of how he found Amanda lying. . .

Do we yet know if DNA evidence of one or more of the three thugs was found in the house - because I do not consider cell phone pings to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt that they were in the house because anyone could've had the phone. This might be a stretch, but how can it be proven that the person whose phone number pinged actually had the phone there?

DNA evidence was found on the pink sweater which places Jalen Watson at Alison Becker's house, right? I am guessing that DNA evidence from Davey was found on Amanda because of the "she was sexually assaulted, errr, well no she wasn't" scenario presented by IMPD - and because none of the thugs have been charged with sex assault.

But other than that, although there is no question that Amanda's ATM card was used by the thugs - - has IMPD made public any of their findings of DNA linking any of the three to the actual assault and gunshots? Larry Taylor said he shot because the woman charged at him and he didn’t want to get scratched. I understand, again why would he say he was there if he wasn’t - I’m wracking my brain trying to make sense of things. There is a long way between using a stolen ATM card (or stealing it and using it) as opposed to knocking out teeth and beating and shooting a victim three times, once in the back of the head so close and personal.

What if the ATM card was given to the thugs outside the house? - to put a finer point on it, what if Davey gave it to them? What if this really was all a setup and IMPD could see right through it from the start? No forced entry / FRONT door left unlocked, Davey in the 911 call giving only the impression of “injured and unconscious” and not a home invasion, the dog Mel apparently not a factor (locked up?), even the grieving husband says he had no idea anyone had been in his house. I understand IMPD has gathered evidence they are keeping close and private while the prosecution is building their case - we will see soon if the prosecution against the thugs can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that “these guys” had anything to do with Amanda’s injuries and gunshot wounds.

All this is random speculation and there might be DNA evidence to support their being inside the house - but even placing these guys inside the house and/or using the ATM card is not enough for a jury to convict any of them beyond a reasonable doubt of assault and murder - and that begs the question, if it wasn’t them, who was it? It also begs the question, were they ordered to make a hit on Amanda and everything that morning was carefully orchestrated and flawlessly planned?

Trudy said...

Hi flightful, good post. One thing though, Larry taylor hasn't said anything. Neither have JW or DG. All the info in the APC comes from a confidential informant. The CI is almost certainly Alonzo Bull/Donae W.

LT may or may not be identified as the man captured on camera standing on the Blackburns porch. The swisher sweets pack could possibly have fingerprints belonging to one of the 3. Otherwise, you're right. There's not much to actually place the 3 inside the house. The CI says it was only LT, in the house. I'll be very interested to hear what their defence is.

Re: the sexual assault: Amanda was sexually assaulted. Her underpants had been removed and her shirt pulled up. That IS sexual assault.

flightfulbird said...

Hi Trudy, thanks - and I had totally forgotten that the confidential informant had said all of this about Taylor.

So it's only hearsay, and I wonder if Alonzo Bull is getting some type of immunity for his part in this, in exchange for his information? He hasn't been arrested or charged (sounds like Davey doesn't it?) and he was in this up to his ears, it seems.

I still think Donae could roll and break this thing wide open. The "victim" Jacola Searsbrook living in the same apartment complex is so weird too - as was her smiling reaction when she said it was "just very chilling" that she could've been killed that night.

Totally possible that Jacola and all of these guys (and Donae and Alonzo) know each other. Strange that she waited almost an hour to call 911 after realizing someone had been in her apartment and her phone was missing.

And I still don't understand why Natasha Tank didn't call 911 and what happened to the third gunshot, when was it, who made it - was the shot ("one to the head") done beforethe timeframe where this neighbor heard shots and what sounded like a woman scream - or after?

I was thinking with respect to internal evidence of sexual assault when I wrote my post - there might've been evidence of Davey but that doesn't mean it was consensual either. IMPD didn't seem to classify underpants removed and shirt pulled up as sex assault - or if they did, they didn't lay charges yet or else they don't think the ones in custody did that to Amanda.

So definitely sexual assault on Amanda with underpants moved and shirt pulled up - but IMPD made no sexual assault charges against any one of the three thugs - so maybe they think it was staging? I do.

Anonymous said...


http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/11/23/amanda-blackburn-case-murder-arrest-made-monday/76246780/

"Newly released court documentsreveal the most complete account yet of how investigators think the crime happened — along with how, through a combination of DNA testing, cellphone records, surveillance footage and cooperating individuals, investigators ultimately pinned their suspects."


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frightfulbird said ......
"there might be DNA evidence to support their being inside the house - but even placing these guys inside the house and/or using the ATM card is not enough for a jury to convict any of them beyond a reasonable doubt of assault and murder - and that begs the question, if it wasn’t them, who was it? It also begs the question, were they ordered to make a hit on Amanda and everything that morning was carefully orchestrated and flawlessly planned?"


LOLOLOL

But you incompetent "detectives" here believe during the thugs' trials somehow Davey is going to be implicated. Based upon...........nothing??

You have nothing.

And do your research.








Anonymous said...

"But you incompetent "detectives" here believe during the thugs' trials somehow Davey is going to be implicated. Based upon...........nothing??"

Davey will have to answer questions on the witness stand. Stuttering isn't an answer.

He will reveal himself and/or implicate himself as having guilty knowledge of the murder of Amanda.

If he has nothing to hide, why did he stop blogging?

Anonymous said...

I see.

But placing the thugs in the house is not enough.

Brilliant.

Anonymous said...

Oh the stuttering that will take place on that stand. Er, uh, um, eh, um ,uh I honestly thought we had lost the baby but uh, er, um, uh I took quick mental snapshots just in case. By the way, I WAS at the gym. Nothing is Wasted, bruh. Bleh!

flightfulbird said...

He quit blogging because someone (maybe Michael Head, his lawyer friend) told him to shut the f up. Clearly Davey was capable of generating post after post after post reliving his thoughts and feelings of that morning that he found Amanda and how his life has changed since and the reasons it happened and how much good has come of it and how many lives have been changed for the better. It was nonstop. He blogged almost every single day for awhile.

Someone pulled the plug on him before he dug himself into an even deeper hole than he has already dug for himself.

flightfulbird said...

No research required to know that there is no way that it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that any of the three thugs allegedly in the Blackburn house that morning "actually pulled the trigger on Amanda" just because they were in the house - - even if it can be proven they were there by some other way than just hearsay from the confidential informant. . . .

. . . or if it can be proven that they were there, and that one or more of them pulled the trigger, then how many shots of the three total shots were fired while they were there. . . because it's not a given that all three shots were in the same timeframe or by the same individual. . .

. . . or just because they were there, it must be proven that they inflicted any of the other injuries (or turned over the furniture or left the Swisher Sweet package on the counter and the change on the landing and the earbuds on the floor).

Remember that the grieving husband said he had no idea anyone had been in his house - that he thought Amanda had fallen and hit her head or that something was wrong with the baby - so how did all those other things happen? WHEN did all those things happen?

I've written before and I'll say it again, Davey would've been far better off if he had stuck with the home invasion story from the start and defended it to the hilt. There still would've been a ton of miraculous coincidences (the getaway car being found on the exact same street as Amanda's ex-youth pastor, for one) but it would've held up to scrutiny better than his current scenario.

Changing his story and his thoughts the way he has implicates him trying to hide things and obscure the truth.

The burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt is why they've not captured Davey yet as well - but I think a defense attorney has an excellent change of creating reasonable doubt for the thugs shooting Amanda just considering a lot of the information from these boards and others.

Just because they were there that morning , if they were there, doesn't mean they killed Amanda or did any of the other destruction and injuries.

flightfulbird said...

Just because they were there that morning, if they were there, doesn't mean they killed Amanda or did any of the other destruction and injuries.

And that is what the prosecution must prove - with whatever evidence they have - that they were there AND that the trigger was pulled three times by one of them. The neighbor only heard two shots during the time Davey was at the gym.

The DNA testing, cell phone records, surveillance footage and cooperating individuals in the report mentioned by Anon at 1:30am could have implicated Davey as well - the suspects "pinned" by investigators could include Davey.

It has been said a hundred times but if Davey has nothing to hide, there's no reason to be afraid and no need to squash whatever discussion is going on - it should be easy to disregard it as random people with no lives spending hours on the internet chasing rabbits.

IF he has nothing to hide.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Rehashing old news here stuck in my craw, so feel free to skip...

In the Affidavit of Probable Cause, the CI says Taylor walked from 2830 Sunnyfield Court to 2812 (the Blackburn home). "Larry Taylor walked to 2812 Sunnyfield Court and opened the unlocked front door."

Unless Larry Taylor stopped and tried a few other front doors along the way to 2812 Sunnyfield Court, this was definitely a set up. Walking in a front door was not and is not Larry Taylor's MO. He "should" be on security cam footage trying those other doors in between, if this was random. Can I prove it? No, but he's either captured on camera going up to those houses/trying other doors, or he is not. If not, why? Hangin' in the house at 2830 with his homies, drinking wine and eating oranges, isn't exactly the best vantage point to see Davey Blackburn leave his house or his driveway, as 2830 sits back from the road at a right angle to the cul de sac, with a large tree obstructing the view of the Blackburn home. They could have seen Davey leave as they were loading their haul into the stolen Sebring, but he should have seen them loading in the driveway.

I'm a little more curious though why Davey didn't notice a strange car at the neighbor's house at that time of the morning as he left, in light of all the ministering and loving their neighbors they were doing in the weeks and months before FORINDY (block parties, neighborhood watches, tea parties for neighbor girls, mowing neighbor's grass, etc.)...especially in light of the recent crime wave that Amanda was worried about (per Davey). Twice as surprised, even, that he didn't notice given that was his normal long morning and he was doing his normal Tuesday morning thing heading to workout. Most people are aware of the normal rhythm of their neighbors/neighborhood- who's coming and going/taking out the trash/at the mailbox/waiting on buses when you are. The other neighbors certainly were more aware of who was walking around their neighborhood that morning than Davey was.

"That’s why we’re trusting the investigators. They’ve been so good to us through this whole process, trying to keep us up to speed on what they have.” Davey Blackburn "Good Morning America" interview http://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-charged-killing-indianapolis-pastors-pregnant-wife/story?id=35366994

Anonymous said...

Absolute frivolous conjecture. Not a shred of truth. Commenters here are crime fiction creators. That's all.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Re: The Sexual Assault- Interesting Statement

"No sexual assault charges have been filed against either of the suspects, and Marion County prosecutor Terry Curry said today that "unless additional evidence is developed, at this point, there is... no sufficient evidence to file any sexual charges in this case." [bolding mine]

There is some evidence, but not sufficient evidence to file "sexual" charges- Sufficient being, able to successfully support and defend against cross-examination. The condition of her shirt and panties, as well as any DNA on those items may have been compromised by either the condition of the scene, someone moving her, or it may be "expected" DNA within a marital relationship. Any Davey DNA could be attributed to that relationship by Davey- easily defendable and difficult to prosecute.

Given the violence of the scene, it would be difficult to believe Larry Taylor's DNA would not be on Amanda/her shirt if he did indeed knock her tooth out, shoot her three times, and try to pull her shirt off at some point.

So, how could Davey have simplified this scene into he thought something had gone wrong with the pregnancy? She's face down "still breathing", totally nude, her shirt is pulled up over her profusely bleeding head,and she's bleeding from an upper back wound?

Anonymous- Why did Davey have a need to oversimplify the reason for the scene? What possible reason can you give for Davey's "miscarriage"/"hit her head" explanation of the scene? We both know he's not that unintelligent and he has no IQ/Cognitive Processing disorder. Does that alone make him guilty? Of course not. But he did have a strong need to minimize. Why? Is that the expected? The "normal"?

Anonymous said...

Tell us......what is the norm? Would it be normal to be in a state of shock and possibly not have "normal" cognitive reasoning? Some people, when faced with the accidental death of a loved one, simply cannot process the reality, and instead, try to normalize it through familiar terms. Friends who lost a 12 year old to drowning....the child had been non responsive, could not be revived. Was not breathing, but mom said, "they're going to see how bad he is." He was dead. That's how bad, but it was something her brain could not process.

So, what is the "norm"?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Anonymous- I'm betting your friends didn't invent another scenario for him drowning that clearly defied him being in a swimsuit or even the pool. It's not the same. Your friends experienced the normal psychological protection mechanism called shock. Shock may cause one to deny the severity of the injuries, but never how the injuries were obtained...unless of course, one inflicted the injuries on the injured. That would be called an assault and it would be guilty knowledge that created the need to lie, minimize, withhold information or deflect. It's not unheard of for a loving, bonded mother to deny her child's death, even if the child is blue having been dead for some time. For some, they will not "believe" a child/person has died until they touch the body in the casket (no joke).

Anonymous said...

Random: Did Davey have a sibling that died at a young age?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Not SA, likely another rehash, wondering...

A. In the Affidavit of Probable Cause, the CI states that Taylor was dropped off "near 56th and Guion Rd. and "Taylor took the stolen property from the car, including a bag over his shoulder."

1. How did Taylor carry 4 TVs, 2 Macbook laptops (i.e. notebooks)? Wouldn't someone notice a man carrying that much that early in the morning, if he was walking or waiting for someone?
2. How did Taylor get from 56th & Guion Road back to 5636 Brendon Way West (20 miles)?


B. The CI states Watson and Gordon then dropped the car off between 7:35-8:35 a.m.(found at 3800 Rookwood Avenue). "The group eventually met back at Alonzo Bull's apartment in the Cottages".

1. The drop off (3800 Rookwood Avenue) is 3 miles from Sunnyfield Court, in front of someone's house and literally where it meets 6-lane W38th Street.
2. How did Watson and Gordon get back to 5636 Brendon Way West (21 miles)?

*I realize the Affidavit is incomplete in details (only what is necessary to charge). I'm just wondering who the chauffeur was, driving around picking everyone up that morning. I'm also wondering who had Gordon's 2nd phone that morning and where. Since Taylor, Watson, and Gordon left together and committed the first burglary together, Gordon's phone wouldn't be calling one of them. That second phone merits only 1 mention in the Affadavit. Also not detailed in the Affadavit is how Bull knew Watson & Gordon weren't going back for Taylor. Taylor or Watson & Gordon had to have called Bull/Donae or Bull/Donae called Taylor or Watson & Gordon. At least one person picked up Taylor, Watson, and Gordon because it would have taken any of them 5-6 hours to walk back to Bull's apartment. I wonder if Amanda knew her former Youth Pastor lived on Rookwood Avenue.

Anonymous said...

Arranging to have the getaway car dropped in front of Amanda's old youth director's house is Davey's way of suggesting a suspect other than himself in the crime.

Just one of many guilty indicators.

Sirensong said...

What ever happened to the black SUV that drove up the street then drove out again within a minute at 6 AM? Initially, LE thought all the stolen items were put in the black SUV. After finding the Sebring and that it was loaded with the TV,s and stuff, I never heard mention of the SUV again. Could this have been Alonzo or Donae' car? Was it ever found and checked out as being involved that day? Still wondering how Alonzo got off the hook.

Anonymous said...

If they have not missed it, what does that mean to you, then?

If, indeed, LE is aware of "all" this supposed evidence and the theories, and they still don't have enough to arrest DB, how do you explain it? Is it the "ten years down the road the theory" or "maybe never"? If so, why? Could it be that there must be just cause to charge someone with murder and to date, there is none?

Wouldn't it be more logical to think that all the "evidence" and theories listed here and discussed for months either don't exist or are not sufficient to link DB to the crime?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


RE: Bobcat February 19, 2017 at 11:18 PM

"Bobcat said...

Arranging to have the getaway car dropped in front of Amanda's old youth director's house is Davey's way of suggesting a suspect other than himself in the crime.

Just one of many guilty indicators.
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Does Amanda's former Youth Pastor live at 3800 Rockwood Avenue or just on Rockwood Avenue? Do you have a link for that? Thank you!

flightfulbird said...

Davey was very insistent that people "listen" to him when he was speaking of this "coincidence" of having the car end up on the exact same street as Amanda's ex-youth pastor . . .

From Bobcat's blog, transcription of For Indy Week Two, toward the end - (bolded mine)

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/08/7172016-forindy-week-two-no-pain-is-in.html

So up in Elkhart, so y-, so he and Adrienne, his wife, very close to Amanda, we were talking about some things and, and he started talking about they actually live over, on the street, listen, that the getaway car was found.

34:20 So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street. I -I'm telling you this because I want you to, I want you to see the DOTS that the Lord is connecting here
.


Davey TOTALLY is creating a picture, a reason, justification for Amanda's murder - to reach "these guys" and for all of the myriad other reasons he has concocted and sent forth this past fifteen months. What are the chances of the thugs dropping the getaway car on the exact same street if not to be part of the story. It's already random enough that they drove to the end of a culdesac at 5:30am and knew which houses to enter.

Hey Jude said...


'So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left,'

Well, what does that mean?

flightfulbird said...

Davey doesn't say they broke into his house and killed Amanda.

He said in one appearance "they tried to steal some things".

He said Larry Taylor is the guy who actually pulled the trigger on Amanda - that's still not saying Larry Taylor KILLED Amanda or even that Larry Taylor shot Amanda.

And I don't believe it's softening language ("pulled the trigger: because it's "too painful to say" his wife was killed or shot - because he has no prelim describing (in great detail over and over and over) the way he found Amanda lying in a pool of blood when he walked in.

flightfulbird said...

'So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left,'

Well, what does that mean?


Davey also says in one appearance "these guys" who "were arrested for her". Not "who killed her", or who did anything that happened that morning.

It would be interesting to compare, in all of his appearances and interviews since November 10th, the words he used to actually describe what happened, what these guys did.

Has he said they killed Amanda? CAN HE say they killed her? Statement Analysis says people don't want to lie. Maybe he can't say it but can only allude to it because he knows they didn't kill her.

Anonymous said...

"Does Amanda's former Youth Pastor live at 3800 Rockwood Avenue or just on Rockwood Avenue?"

After researching this, it appears the answer is neither. Their address is 0.7 miles from 3800 Rookwood. Either Jeff lied to Davey and/or Davey is lying/embellishing his 'story'.

The Reichanadters moved to the 4100 block of North Capitol Avenue in 2014. I found a photo of the house number on Adrienne's blog, and a building permit that references the address and Jeff's name.
Blog: http://the6racks.blogspot.com/2014/10/hard-work.html
House: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AS_ywuXJWzg/VDxoRs1m47I/AAAAAAAAAz8/pR9z5dBTe6U/s1600/IMG_3493.JPG
Permit: https://www.buildzoom.com/property-info/4123-n-capitol-ave-indianapolis-in-46208

Sirensong said...

What DB said to the paramedics would be interesting. I wonder if they noticed strange and unusual behavior. Walking in and finding her unclothed but swearing he thought something happened to the pregnancy is ridiculous. Why would she take her clothes off before she fell. I remember him saying something about being dead she didn't have to deal with the shame. He is just evil, and everything he says is either hiding or gloating about his involvement.

Anonymous said...

ff @ 12:50

He helped present her to the father.

Two arms lengths away; he "allowed" it to happen while watching from above.

Larry Taylor pulled the trigger.

I think Amanda was shot between 6:00 and 6:10 AM.

All parties were present.

Anonymous said...

All parties would include Davey? He came in from the car? He never left? What?

Anonymous said...

Davey didn't leave for the gym until 6:10am

Bobcat said...

I think Davey's gym bag was full of gloves and/or whatever else was used to leave a 'clean' crime scene. He's a control freak. There's no way he would leave a mess behind. That's why the only DNA hit was on the sweater that Jalen carelessly left in the Sebring.

That's what made DB angry when he saw their photos in the paper.

The carelessness which led to them getting busted.

Anonymous said...

Are we ignoring the camera footage.....the shot heard by a neighbor at 6:40?

Anonymous said...

The neighbor who reported hearing "what sounded like" shots and a woman scream should be questioned further.

Why was she staying on Sunnyfield? Who was she staying with? Was she renting? Her husband at that time had an address in a different part of town.

Why didn't she call 911?

Why didn't any other neighbors call 911? Especially considering the neighborhood watch program?

In the original APC, Davey said he left for the gym at 6:00 AM, but camera footage shows the Civic leaving Sunnyfield at 6:11. There is a ten minute discrepancy there.
Davey also mentions "ten minutes" as a suggested time to spend reading your bible each day.


flightfulbird said...

Are we ignoring the camera footage.....the shot heard by a neighbor at 6:40?

This comment makes the shot heard by a neighbor look like another part of an alibi for Davey.

I believe Davey and friends are counting on / clinging to the story of the shot(s) heard by the neighbor during that exact timeframe as a way of saying "Davey couldn't have shot Amanda because the gunshots were heard by the neighbor during the time Davey was seen on camera at the gym ! "

This earwitness is unreliable. Two shots and "what sounded like a woman scream" - there were three shots and I imagine much more than "a scream" - "screaming" would be more like it. And yeah why didn't she call 911 - and how is she so absolutely sure of the timeframe.

It smacks of her being told, by someone, what to say and when to say it happened.

Anonymous said...

I don't think there was screaming at all. The duct tape prevented it.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat said...
The neighbor who reported hearing "what sounded like" shots and a woman scream should be questioned further.




How do you know she has not been?

Soon said...

I can't wait til May when the flock of soulless harpies implodes upon learning police DO have solid evidence Larry Taylor shot Amanda....all three times. I predict extreme psychological breakdowns. Please make sure your next of kin or close friends are prepared to deal with the aftermath.

flightfulbird said...

IF Larry Taylor shot Amanda. .. all three times. .. and we know Davey wants us to be aware that Larry Taylor's the one who actually pulled the trigger on her -

that still doesn't rule out Davey or someone else (or both) from plotting / scheming / orchestrating a hit on her.

I too think the gym bag had other items in it besides gym clothes and a protein shake.

Hey Jude said...

Flightful - I think he has said they killed her, but if so, I can't remember when - mostly he has avoided saying it. That could be because he knows they did not, or maybe he's been advised not to state it so baldly - innocent until proved guilty. It's a curious bit of missing information though, just to say they broke in and then left - should we believe him?

Also the 'actually', in Larry Taylor being the one who 'actually' pulled the trigger - he is thinking of something (or someone?) else - what is he thinking?

--

The neighbour only heard what sounded like a woman scream - if she heard anything, it could have been the dog letting out a howl. Do people scam after they are shot? - I don't know. I'd think more likely to scream just before, at the realisation one was about to be shot.


Bingo said...

I also find the neighbor testimony to be unreliable. The neighborhood had recently engaged in neighborhood watch meetings. Also,according to the neighbors, they had all been taking safety and precaution very seriously. With that said, why would you hear two shots and a woman scream and not call 911. I don't even think it should be included in the investigation. If she truly heard what she said she heard, then what a horribly negligent decision on her part. So she doesn't call and a woman lays bleeding to death for an hour and 1/2 and eventually dies. If she had called when she supposedly heard the shots, maybe Amanda survives. Aren't she and Davey to blame for all of their negligence? If she had bothered to call 911 and Davey had locked the door, Amanda might still be here. No one seems to be sorry for what they didn't do that morning. Will they be asked these hard questions on the stand?

Bobcat said...

Lots of neighbors had security camera footage they gladly turned over to LE. Those neighbors seem like if they had heard shots and a scream, they would have called 911 or LE at a minimum.

I would love to hear Natasha Jones Tank's explanation of why she was in bed on Sunnyfield Court (instead of with her husband in a different part of town) at all that morning. Her being in bed sounds a lot like Jacola "Is.awake" Searsbrook being in bed.

The more I study the APC, the more I like Prosecutor Curry. It will be interesting to see what develops from Davey's witness stand testimony AFTER Taylor, Watson, and Gordon's court cases are finished.

Patience is a virtue.

Anonymous said...

One of Davey's old neighbors, Reginald Townsel, works as a security technician and has for 6 years. He lived only a few houses down from Davey. Would love to see what his surveillance tape has on it.

Anonymous said...

"Neighbors said they heard gunshots about 6:45 a.m. and saw an SUV peeling out of the otherwise quiet street. "

Seems like the SUV should have been pursued a little harder.

Anonymous said...

Saw this post on another site...

I am a CHI (certified handwriting analyst) and I did a short analysis of Pastor Blackburn's handwriting/printing from one of his sermon notes. Of course, we usually base our findings from more than one piece of handwriting. However the one sample of handwriting I saw, it revealed that Davey Blackburn (provided this was truly his and I have every reason to believe it is) doesn't always abide by the law. He is a rule breaker. This is shown by the vertical red lines on the left where his handwriting goes beyond the boundary. To what extent he breaks rules is not known to me but his handwriting doesn't lie. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153672688070600&set=p.10153672688070600&type=3&theater

Bobcat said...

"Also the 'actually', in Larry Taylor being the one who 'actually' pulled the trigger - he is thinking of something (or someone?) else - what is he thinking?"

Speculation...
He could be thinking of whoever else helped hold Amanda down - two arms lengths away - while Larry pulled the trigger.

She was fighting HARD for her LIFE. She probably could have gotten away from Larry if he didn't have help holding her down.

It makes a lot of sense that Diano and Jalen did NOT want to go back for Larry.

Davey wrestled and wrestled and wrestled, the bedrock was shaken...while he was 'out of control', 'god' was 'in control'.

Anonymous said...

The idea of hiring a hit is to distance personal self from murder.

No way is Davey going to be hands on in Amanda's murder....especially if he did hire the deed.

Very desperate and out of touch scenario on your part.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 6:19

Quite a mouthful of carefully chosen words there.

Anonymous said...

The apple tree of CD:

"An ordinary guy who loves Jesus & crazy about my extraordinary wife and being a dad and granddad."

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anon @ 6:19

Quite a mouthful of carefully chosen words there.
February 23, 2017 at 1:00 PM




My words were neither a mouthful nor carefully chosen; however, the more I see of amateurs such as you attempting to apply SA has ruined my faith in the investigative technique.

I've been accused a couple of times of being Davey (I believe both times by Bobcat), which demonstrates to me that, either SA, itself, is a half-baked, flawed technique, or you people here are inept at it (probably the later). If it were worth its weight, and/or if the analyst had a clue, he/she could not be that far off the mark.

Therefore......

If you're that mistaken about me, it does nothing to instill confidence in your "analysis" of Davey.

Anonymous said...

LOL! Is that you me21 @anon 5:17 PM? I don't know, but something about the "you people" remark and the implication that you're the smartest being in the universe, sounds so familiar. You know what I mean?

Anonymous said...

I don't try to hide who I am, unlike you.

The "smartest person" is not my implication; it is your inference. You give yourself away.

Match said...

5:17

Hello there Me2l (Gaslighter)

So sorry to have ruined your faith in SA.

Bless you, dear child.

Anonymous said...

You ruined nothing for me.

It's just too bad that you amateurs botch it up so severely.

Match said...

My words were neither a mouthful nor carefully chosen; however, the more I see of amateurs such as you attempting to apply SA has ruined my faith in the investigative technique.

You ruined nothing for me.

Gaslighter

Anonymous said...

.......because comments in a blog are of great significance.

Case solvers, you are. Lol

Hey Jude said...

Did everyone listen yet?


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/insidelenz/2017/02/23/crime-wire-live-with-pete-hyatt-and-the-amanda-blackburn-murder-case

Hey Jude said...

Davey, in a recent sermon said he won't ever let Weston win at anything - he is one mean b*stard. I agree children need to learn how to lose gracefully, but to never let, or intend to let your two year old have the pride and pleasure of winning is unkind.

What competitive activity can a two year old understand - a race, building a tower, putting toys away fastest - he says he is not allowed to win ever - someone he relates that to God's dealing with us. I forget how, it was too depressing to listen again more attentively. Well, one just has to hope his housemates and the grandparents let Weston win at stuff when Davey is out or away.

Hey Jude said...

Someone = somehow

Anonymous said...

Imagine Me2l was your mother.

You'd have issues too.

Hey Jude said...

Lol, you would. Do you think Me21 is Davey's mother? IDK - seems a bit harsh on Brenda.

---
So, I have listened to Davey's most recent sermon on the Resonate site. In the previous one (I think) he said he didn't want their money. In this one he says he wants ten percent of their incomes and in response to those who have asked, he says giving (or rather bringing, cos they don't own it) five percent to Resonate and five percent to a non-profit is no good. This is because 'churches' give the most to non-profits. He is very defensive about how much of the income from tithes goes on mission. 'Mission' to Davey is anyone who walks through the door - maybe they all eat out a lot on the tithe? I lost count of how many times people were staring or looking 'down the barrel' at some assignment they felt too weak to undertake - pregnancy was looking down a barrel. He should stop it.

Oh, and he said that people can go to 'boring church' if they don't like Resonate, and told them how he wanted to strip off and jump in the pools on the rooftop of a penthouse suite he'd stayed in. Hopefully not on the tithe, but I'd have to listen again.


Hey Jude said...

He also asked in derisive tone, if this was a Baptist church. No, Davey, and co - it's the Davey Show.

They should run, and keep on running away from Davey - 'where there is no vision the people perish' - 'where there is no vision the people cast off restraint'. He wants their tithe to build a church - seemingly for the benefit all the people on the internet watching from all around the world. Virtual viewers don't need seats - that people view doesn't mean that they are necessarily supporters.

Anonymous said...

"Lol, you would. Do you think Me21 is Davey's mother? IDK - seems a bit harsh on Brenda."

Me2l is Brenda Lepchenko, and uses the language of teachers.
Coincidentally, Brenda is a teacher and her brother is a tennis coach (search Lepchenko).
Me2l has referenced Davey's "compulsive talking."
Me2l wonders if Davey is "good enough" to outsmart LE.

Davey is a bit harsh himself.

Davey says he had a "drug" problem as a kid - being "drug" to church. If the church was open, he was drug there. Brenda may as well have given birth to him in the front pew of a church, and Davey wants to raise Weston so he doesn't HATE the church.

Davey 5/15/2016: http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/05/5152016-home-run-life-week-7-when-to.html
"See, um, the other thing that I’ve discovered about, just growing up in church, and, and church people is, um… There’s a lot of church people who aren’t changed people. There’s a lot of church people who aren’t changed people, and maybe you know some of them. Once you were like, they’re, they’re alll up in church, man they do alllll the right things, they say allll the right things, they wear allll the right things, but at the end of the day, man, they’re not, they’re not, they’re not even really changed. They’re like… Some of ‘em are just mean. Some of ‘em are condescending. Some of ‘em are judge, judgmental. And I’m going to tell you right now if you stick around here long enough, you’re gonna recognize that we’re just as messed up. But the good thing is we serve a God, Jesus, who was none of those things. All of us Christians are pretty much hypocritical. We’re messed up. But then there are some who like, know that they’re that way and they refuse to change. They know they live life for themselves but they refuse to change. They know that they should live life in the light of eternity for other people but they refuse, to change."

Anonymous said...

Me2l is Brenda Lepchenko

Brenda Lepchenko is a facebook pseudonym.

Hey Jude said...

Yes, Davey expresses resentment towards both his parents and now he is expressing disdain towards Baptist churches, which can't go down too well with his parents and in-laws - both father and father-in-law pastor Baptist churches?

Hey Jude said...

I don't know who Me21 is. Certainly there is someone here who is mama bear like in her way, I would not find that person had to be Brenda, though. If I were Brenda I would hate for people to think I was Me21 whether I was, or not, but especially so if not.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know when the trial are going to be? TIA

Hey Jude said...

It is/was scheduled March 20 to last four to five days - well, if they don't go for a plea deal.

Bobcat said...

Trial dates have been pushed back to May for Taylor and Watson, July for Gordon.

Father-in-law pastors a Baptist church.

Davey's father pastors an independent church, but has ties to the Wesleyan church.

Hey Jude said...

Interesting, Bobcat - I just watched a couple,of Davey's dad's videos and listened to one of his sermons - newish website along the lines of Resonate but with mostly audio rather than video. He doesn't have Davey's charisma, if you can call it that, and he says some strange things, such as his father 'would have taken him out' if he'd done something, forgotten what. Might listen to some more, but it's a bit dull. I wonder why he went independent, about which he and Brenda seem a bit sensitive.

Bbocat said...

If you're an independent church, you don't have to send a portion of tithes to the 'mother' church.

It appears that they are intentionally 'laying low' in Brevard these days.

Hey Jude said...

Ah, that's interesting - I think he has only been there three years. They are keen to let people know that whilst independent the ethos is Wesleyan - having their cake and eating it, perhaps. Though money is not important to them, nor to Davey, lol.

Trudy said...

Hi all, the Crime Wire interview was good. It cleared up a couple of things for me and (I hope) for the Anon/me21/BL personas, as well.

If you need proof that Davey is not interested in money, look no further than the FIVE WEEKS worth of sermons he is doing on (ahem) money.

Thank you for posting the fb entry of Jono. In light of DBag's latest blog post, it seems quite pointed. It is incredible to see how God talks directly to Davey about money and finances. In the latest blog he talks about a woman giving Amanda and him a brand new car, because....guess what.....God told her to. If I may....

. “God told me to give you guys a car. I know it seems crazy - believe me I thought He was crazy too - but I know I’m supposed to do this.”

How bizarre is that? No matter how crazy you think God is for telling you to do something crazy you should do it because He's God. It is so delusional. Good on Jono.

Funnily enough, at the end of the blog, he said that Amanda was wondering if God wanted them to give the new car to someone more needful, and Davey wanted to "rebuke her in the name of Jesus". So when God talks to Davey, it's all "thy will be done". When God speaks to Amanda, she should be rebuked in the name of Jesus by Davey.

BTW has it ever been determined why Dbag drove Amanda's Honda Civic to the gym that morning? Given that their garage was Amanda's workshop, would Davey's car have been in the driveway? I ask because the "home invasion" was incredibly unusual. A car in the driveway usually signals that someone is home. For the same reason, I'd like to know if the lights were on, also a signal that someone was home. For the same reason again I'd like to know if there was a beware of the dog sign. Nothing about the "home invasion" makes sense. Reading through old SA blogs I noticed Peter said he would not be surprised if it turned out that nothing of any real value was stolen. Yep.






Anonymous said...

Wonder if the lady that "gave" Davey the car is still alive or if she, too, decided to join Jesus. People around Davey that are worth more dead than alive seem to die under mysterious circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Trudy, don't forget the security alarm sign right next to Davey's door. And I believe the lights were on, as it appears that Amanda was awake when the thugs stumbled in.

Trudy said...

Just about everything at the Blackburn home should have been anathema to burglars. Lights on, big dog, security sign, time of day, car in driveway etc. it beggars belief that it was a robbery.

It's funny, but in his blog, Davey doesn't include whether God told them to keep the car or give it away. I guess they kept it or he would have blathered on endlessly about who he gave it to and their response.Does that mean the Blackburns had three cars? So, definitely at least one in the driveway? Perhaps a nice new unstolen, Chevy Cruze?

The big problem with the "God spoke to me and told me to XYZ" is that it gives me carte blanche to do absolutely whatever the hell pops into my tiny mind - and if it feels crazy or wrong, that's because I don't understand God's plan. How do people distinguish between their own (crazy) thoughts and God's voice? (I REALLY liked Jono's post)




Anonymous said...

The car in the driveway when the murders took place was a black SUV. Davey pulled Amanda's car in right behind it when he sat on the phone for an hour with Kenneth (news video shows a black SUV with Amanda's car right behind it). No sign of the gifted white SUV anywhere.

Hey Jude said...

Maybe Davey put Mel in Amanda's car and drove that because he didn't want the dog messing up his own car. Maybe the dog didn't bark because she was in the car all the while, till he shut her in a room when he came back from the gym. That could account for no reports of barking - also might account for the short gym visit - couldn't leave the dog shut in the car for very long.

Anonymous said...

It appears that the two last Resonate services were held in a much smaller location, and before that Davey was preaching from the floor in front of the stage. The audience was so small it would have been ridiculous for Davey to stay on the big stage.

Attendance must be down to 15-30 (max) per service.

His new blog post is desperately pleading for cash.

Trudy said...

Hey hey Jude, the dog thing bothers me a lot. Mel features on Amanda's social media a bit and was always referred to lovingly and as "part of the family". Mel went on holidays with them (and Ash and Derek and their dog, Lola, who Davey lives with now) ) She slept in the house. They'd had her since she was a puppy. Where was that large, protective, loyal pet that morning? Maybe he did take her in Amanda's car, to the gym. Hmmm.

Meg G comments on every single picture of the dog in both Amanda's and Dbags social media with "I love that dog" and heart eyed emoticons or sometimes just "Mel"!

I don't think Amanda would be happy that Davey has reinstated Meg and got rid of Mel.

As for the miraculous Chevvy Cruz, did he just make that up?

Bobcat said...

There is a photo on Amanda Cummings (the neighbor who took Mel and is also a member of Resonate) facebook, of Amanda and Davey looking extremely happy in the front seat of what could be the Chevy Cruze.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/12238119_10208528105026467_7588573942544871429_o.jpg?oh=7f8478e23ab41bd533b2e1b08d88ba03&oe=596CCC5C

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208528105026467&set=a.10200200141272578.2198177.1423353466&type=3&theater

I wonder if Amanda Cummings is the one who gave them the car? Perhaps Davey is retelling this story, trying to see if he can shake her money tree some more.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQvHPQTl4BQ/

Feb. 20, 2017 Yesterday was such a great reminder of how far we've come as a church and how God has provided in every season. Glad that because we're mobile we can do church anywhere at anytime! @resonateindy

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQsgLJjlY2_/

Feb. 19, 2017 (Looks like the night before service run-through/sound check) When you're a mobile church some weeks you have to find a new home due to conflicts. I'm super proud of @derekmbarrett and team for taking an obstacle and making it an opportunity to prove the Church is more than just a building and gear, it's people pointing people to the most excellent Name - King Jesus!!
______________________________________

It appears that for the last two weeks Resonate has met at Sadhana Studios as the setting looks similar to this Resonate Youth Group meeting picture on Zach Woolever’s Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/p/BMDN5lMBIgH/


Which is Consistent with Sadhana Studios Calendar Booking:
http://sadhanastudios.org/ (events Calendar upper right-hand corner)

Wednesday, October 26, 2016
6:00pm Private Event - Resonate Church Student Ministry (6th-12th grade students)
Thursday, October 27, 2016

**This is also where Resonate Church is renting office space.

The weird thing is the location change is not listed on the Resonate Facebook page, Resonate’s website, their Twitter account, Davey’s personal blog, or Davey’s Twitter account. If you were attempting to grow your Church, shouldn't you tell the public if you're changing location?

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


A shot of the auditorium size that Resonate meets at Northview Middle School (typically in all of the Resonate pics, only the first few rows are filled).

https://www.instagram.com/p/1YOBKqjITs/

flightfulbird said...

Resonate should move those black screens a few rows further forward (like five rows further forward) if they return to the middle school auditorium - it's not like they are ever going to be able to fill eight rows all the way across.

Yes, if Davey is attempting to fill the seats and be sure nothing is wasted and get people to not only come to church but to GIVE to the church - - it would be advantageous to publicize the new site !

I wonder how many of Davey's flock are aware of the discussion here and ignore it, drinking the Koolaid - or how many no longer go to Resonate because they don't trust him? The church is floundering, clearly -although he wants everyone to think Amanda's murder would slingshot it to success - it's not happening.

The DataLounge thread #7 is active - and I think this is true.

"So in other words Davey is reading these posts and is getting nervous that people have figured out that he is a con and murderer. Sorry Davey, it is only a matter of time before this all falls apart. Your hip church and torn pants aren't going to be around much longer."

Anonymous said...

I agree, flightfulbird. When it was pointed out on Datalounge that the free white Chevy Cruze was a curious/mysterious piece of information not revealed earlier, then the next morning Davey posted a picture of Amanda pointing to a white car (with half of the post, including time, date and source, conveniently missing). Davey is definitely playing defense when unflattering or questionable info gets out. I'm convinced that Davey regularly monitors this thread as well as the Datalounge thread.

Anonymous said...

The source should be verifiable.
"Manda" is often referenced by DB's supporter Debbie Hughey Parsons on fb.
Debbie's daughter Steph was one of Amanda's best friends.
"Steph" is Stephanie (Parsons) Reinking.

Who gave them the car?
What happened to the car?

Is the current owner of the car still associated with Resonate?

I think Davey is just trying to squeeze more cash out of people, and possibly the person they gave the car to, as in "you owe me"...

Trudy said...

Bobcat said " I think Davey is just trying to squeeze more cash out of people...."

Haha. That has to be the understatement of the century, Bobcat. He's now into week 3 of the Economic Athiest (another 2 weeks to go!) and these 'sermons' are nothing more than an obvious, unapologetic money grab. The congregation is bullied and cajoled over money, relentlessly. Davey says God is not a vending machine, but proceeds to describe Him exactly as a vending machine. Put in 10%, reap the rewards. Apparently if you put in 10% of your income God will also financially manage the other 90%. The most disgraceful example he offers is the story of Hanah and Elkana from the bible (in his blog) She gave her son to the church, so God gave her 5 more children. See how the magical vending machine works? Put in 1 and you will get 5 back.

He throws out the "consider the lilies of the fields" line, apparently entirely oblivious of the irony.




Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Someone asked about the NewSpring-Resonate connection awhile back and this was probably covered ad nauseum ;), but for those who are unaware...

https://perrynoble.com/blog/a-note-to-our-newspring-family
(snipped)

"For those of you who are unfamiliar with who Davey is, he came on staff in 2008 and served with us for four years. Davey served as the Fuse Campus Pastor for our very first satellite campus in Greenville. During his time on staff, Davey married his beautiful wife, Amanda, and in 2012 the Lord laid on Davey's heart to plant a church in Indianapolis, Indiana. Their dream was to create a place to connect with people who normally wouldn’t connect with church. As a church, we were so proud of Davey and believed in this calling on his life so much that we supported him and Resonate Church financially."

FYI: The second line of this post began with "Tuesday, Davey came home from the gym...". The first line was Perry's personal request for people to pray for Davey.

Anonymous said...

Instead of saying

I had no idea

Davey now says

Little did I know

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Not Statement Analysis
Long post alert- Feel free to skip. Some rehash & recap, trying to follow the money. ;)

So, according to Perry Noble, NewSpring fronted Davey's salary and the money needed for the Resonate start-up. Davey was previously on staff at NewSpring from 2008-2012 (paid salary).

2011: May 2011 Davey's having issues at NewSpring (per Davey's post re: Amanda's Journal Entry, may or may not be reliable). They're doing unplanned remodeling on the house [to sell] and Amanda's praying about Davey's need to "escape". On November 10, 2011 Davey & Amanda move to Indianapolis and around Nov. 18th they're closing on a house. Resonate's State paperwork is filed Nov. 29, 2011.

2012: Davey starts coaching at the school Jan. 24, 2012. Resonate officially "opens to the public" April 4, 2012. They move to Eastwood Middle School May 2, 2012. Resonate Launch was Sept. 16, 2012 (Sunday Night Services- Dec. 23, 2012 1st Sunday morning service).

2014: March 30, 2014 Derek & Ashley Barrett are officially hired. July 28, 2014 Weston is born. August begins a round of Attendance Giveaway promotions. By Christmas 2014, Davey says Resonate needs $150,000 to move.

2015: Jan. 18, 2015 Resonate Band releases a single. December 2014-January/February(approx.) 2015, Davey empties their Car Savings account and all of their Retirement accounts and "gives the money to the Church". Resonate moves and begins renting the Northview Middle School Auditorium and "re-Launches"on Feb. 8, 2015. Seven months later, they “still had not seen anything come of their sacrifice”. Davey launches the FORINDY campaign publicity blitz July 5, 2015.. August 2015 starts a second round of Attendance Giveway promotions. Amanda becomes pregnant mid- August. October 27-29, Davey & Amanda go to Chicago and film the Love Song Q & A. The Resonate Leadership Retreat weekend to discuss Resonate's future on November 6-7. According to Amber, Amanda "broke the news" to Davey. Davey preaches the "Shooting Worry" November 8. Amanda is shot November 10; November 10 the Donation page goes up. Resonate T-shirts "designed by Amanda" go on sale for $22 Nov. 14 (with all proceeds going to Davey Blackburn and Weston) prior to the Traders Point Church (NewSpring promoted)"global" Amanda Blackburn Memorial Service.

2016: Davey Blackburn launches Davey Blackburn Ministries LLC on January 4, 2017. On NIW Serendipity LLC is registered on February 1, 2016. On March 2, 2016, Davey Blackburn pays $355,000 for a new home (w/ NIW Serendipity LLC). Davey embarks numerous networked speaking engagements and contracts to write and publish a book titled Nothing Is Wasted. His appearance changes drastically with cosmetic improvements, regular tanning, daily Cross Fit training, and new hipster wardrobe. Subordinate Resonate Pastors conduct more services as Davey vacations and travels. DAvey's last post on Salvations at Resonate was August 30, 2016. Davey's last post alluding to any salvations is October 9, 2016 at a Men's Retreat at Spring Hill Camps. On Nov. 11, Resonate records and promotes a Live Worship album in Amanda's honor at Amanda's childhood Church.

2017: On Jan. 10, Davey delivers the Nothing Is Wasted manuscript to his publisher. Davey takes his first vacation of the New Year on Jan. 27. On February 5, 2017 Resonate celebrates their 2 year anniversary of their 2015 Re-Launch (original launch Sept. 16, 2012= Resonate is actually 4yrs 5mos. old). On Feb. 13, Davey begins teaching a new series "Economic Atheist" (finances and giving). On February 19, Resonate Church changes location (“some weeks you have to find a new home due to conflicts”).

Anonymous said...

Davey Ramsey & Lampo Creative 1/11/2017

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2017/03/1112017-dave-ramsey-lampo-creative.html

6:15 Right before Weston was born, we were going through, The Legacy Journey. It was when you guys were first launching that and uh, Dave was telling everybody on the radio show; “You need to have conversations that you don’t want to have.” Right. The conversation about the will, and the conversations about the life insurance and, if something were to happen to both of us, what, what would we do with our kids. And so, right before Weston was born we, we went on a walk, Amanda and I did and started having conversations about this. And, little did I know these conversations were going to need to be had, uh, way sooner than what I ever projected they would. And so I asked her, um. I said “Hey, what would you do if something were to happen to me?” And uh, and she said “I don’t even want to think about that. Let’s not talk about that.” I said “No. Dave Ramsey says we HAVE to talk about this, so we will.” Right. Uh. Fortunately, Dave was not a cuss word in my household. We enjoyed all of our road trips listening to the radio show, um, together. But she goes “OK. We’ll have this conversation.”

She said “Maybe I’ll move back to Elkhart and be with my family, if that were to happen.” And, and she looked at me and she said “What would you do if something happened to me?” And I couldn’t fathom it. I mean, most people come to me and they say “I can’t fathom what you’ve gone through” and I tell them “You know what? I couldn’t either before I went through this but you’d be surprised how good the lord is in your life. You’d be surprised at how much the holy spirit intervenes in the times where you don’t have anything to, any strength to be able to go on.” And so, I couldn’t fathom it at the time and, and so I said “What do you want me to do? What would you want me to do if something were to happen to you?” And she said “I would want you to spend the rest of your life, reaching the city of Indianapolis and building this church.” And uh, about a week after I, uh, uh after all of this happened I flew back into Indianapolis not sure of what god was doing now with my calling because; our calling had now, been transferred over to just me. I was now half-of so I thought the person that I used to be.

8:00 And, I remember that conversation popping into my head, and knowing then that I could walk back into this calling guilt-free, and be able to reach a city who is hopeless and who is hurting and is looking for the hope to stand on in the midst of their trials. Knowing that we could intersect a generation of these underprivileged and at-risk kids. The same kinds of kids that, that killed Amanda. That we could intersect them now because, and I can walk into that guilt-free because of this organization right here.

Anonymous said...

Continued...

9:15 Fortunately, because we set everything up, I’m now on baby step 8, overnight.

15:20 And then I went through my valley of the shadow of death. And I completely understood where he was coming from. Because I understood, what it was like, to wake up some mornings, and have a peace that passes all understanding, and not know where it’s coming from. And to feel the closeness of the lord, breathing down my neck like I’d never felt it before. I understood what it was like to stand in front of cameras, and not even really know what I was saying because the holy spirit said it for me on national news and declare the goodness of the lord of the land of the living even in the midst of tragic, death. But I also understood, what it meant to wake up some mornings, and not want to be alive.

15:45 And frankly, if I can be transparent and honest, even wake up some mornings and figure out how can I, how can I escape this life. How can I get out of this? Because the crushing pressure of grief was too much for me to handle. I got it. I understood it.

Hey Jude said...

Fools - your post illustrates really well how Davey and Amanda were under enormous pressure financially to succeed in growing his hoped-for megachurch. So irresponsible to sink everything into his church, IMO - it must have been a very stressful time for Amanda. I doubt there was much in their retirement accounts, both being so young - still, seems rash to have wasted whatever peace of mind that might have provided for any emergencies or unexpected expenses - what a waste it must have seemed when months later their sacrifice had not produced the anticipated reward - Davey must have been increasingly desperate as he pored over Levi Lusko's tragedy and how it has benefited his ministry. I expect Amanda was desperately worried and afraid in the weeks and months leading up to the time she was murdered.

Hey Jude said...

'Knowing that we could intersect a generation of these underprivileged and at-risk kids. The same kinds of kids that, that killed Amanda.'

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So' Amanda was killed by underprivileged and at-risk kids?

I don't think I would be describing my wife's alleged murderers in those terms if I were Davey.

---

Is 'intersect' interesting there? Like the paths crossed maybe, between Davey and the 'kids', or the path of their crime crossed with that of Amanda's murder? They were somehow 'intersected' to be implicated in the murder, or possibly to commit it, in the course of committing another crime? IDK - I'm probably too convinced they didn't do it.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

Long Post Alert- Feel free to skip.

Part 1 of 2
RE: Bobcat March 3, 2014 @ 3:46 AM- Thank you for posting this. We’re implemented Dave Ramsey’s financial planning in our household for a number of years.

Davey (speaking to Dave Ramsey)
@ 9:15 Mark: "Fortunately, because we set everything up, I’m now on baby step 8, overnight."
______________________________________

O.K., for those of your who may not be familiar with Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace teaching, this is a HUGE deal. Dave Ramsey defines 7 Baby Steps to Financial Freedom/Financial Peace. Baby Step 7 is broken down into 2 parts, which may be why Davey says Baby Step 8.

Davey says he's on Baby Step 8 overnight. That means he's accomplished these things overnight:

Baby Step 1: Involves Gazelle Focus (Cut any and all unnecessary spending. You can't stop financial hemorraghing with a bandaid; you use a tourniquet)

- Remember Davey told us that at Christmas 2014 and six weeks into 2015, he emptied their Car Savings account and alltheir Retirement Accounts. He also told us that they were struggling after Weston was born, paying the hospital bills out of their Emergency Fund.
- So, Davey says seven months into 2015, they saw no financial return for their "sacrifice". Did anyone see Davey make major changes in his/their lifestyle from Christmas 2014-October 2015, consistent with that "Gazelle Focus" principle?
- How about from November 2015-June 2016, any changes in lifestyle consistent with losing a spouse? An income-contributing spouse?

Baby Step 1: Goal $1,000 in Savings

Baby Step 2: Pay off ALL your debt
Any vehicles, loans (consolidations), credit cards, and ALL medical bills and funeral expenses pertaining to Amanda

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


Part 2 of 2

Baby Step 3: Finish funding the Emergency Fund (put 3-6 months of your income in an Emergency Fund)
- When did Davey repay their Car Savings and Emergency Funds?
Davey had a well-documented social media history of living large prior to Amanda's murder, with a marked increase in traveling, vacations, sporting events, and leisure activities.

Baby Step 4: Invest 15% of Your Income in Retirement

Baby Step 5 is College Funding (for all those people who donated to Weston's College Fund and bought "Amanda-designed" Resonate T-Shirts to help Weston)

Baby Step 6: Pay off the Mortgage (that $355,000 home purchased March 2, 2104- remodeled and interior designed decorated)

Baby Step 7: Build Wealth Like Crazy (this step consists of two parts)

Part 1: Investments (Have Fun, Invest, and Give)

Part 2: The Pinnacle (live off 8% percent of your nest egg, while your wealth increases) **DISCLAIMER: Ideally in Dave Ramsey's financial planning materials, you should be using some of your money to give charitably at each step along the way (10%-15% recommended to start, it should increase as your net worth increases)

SUMMING UP: Between soliciting donations "for Davey and Weston", Resonate T-Shirt sales, Amanda's Life Insurance Policy, well-networked media interviews, and paid Speaking Engagements...if Davey is to be believed...He's gotten noticeably wealthy from the death of his pregnant, young wife...while his church continues to struggle financially. His standard of living has increased significantly. Either Davey's lying to Dave Ramsey or he's profited greatly from the death of his pregnant wife...during a season when they financially "floated" a failing Resonate Church by him emptying a number of their personal accounts with no/little financial return and Amanda unexpectedly becoming pregnant . IF Davey's to be believed and IF they were following Dave Ramsey's principles, judging by the Retirement Accounts and Emergency Fund, they would have floated Resonate somewhere around the neighborhood of $10,000-$50,000 from Dec. 2014-Aug.2015 and despite Davey's manic sermons/merchandising/marketing, it was still a money pit (except now, it was saddled with a bigger rent payment to Northview Middle School)...Amanda's pregnancy would likely have been a breaking point (All of Davey's self-professed personal triggers). Thinking about the manner in which Davey "announced" Amanda's pregnancy- a slip of the tongue in a sermon on shooting your worries and financial pressures, a quick coarse joking "recovery effort" to play it off as though he meant to say it.

Does that prove Davey hired someone to/ subtly "suggested" that someone kill Amanda? No, but there are an amazing amount of convenient coincidences involving timing and a lot of "problems" were neatly solved for Davey "overnight".

Hey Jude said...

Yes - it was all so 'convenient'. He's still ended up with a traveling salvation show, tho', so it looks as if at some point he might have to accept that he's not cut out to be a mega-church pastor. Maybe he's thinking to sink all his new-found wealth into a church building - he could live in it, all of a sacrifice.

I don't believe he asked Amanda what she would like him to do if she died - he wouldn't have cared what she wanted, Davey only does what Davey wants to do. Didn't he say early on that Amanda had wanted Weston to play basketball, but he was going to be a baseball player, like Davey. I think he could not care less about what Amanda wanted for Weston, or in time, about what Weston might want for his own life.

flightfulbird said...

From Foolsfeedonfolly post March 3 1:59am (very nice timeline by the way Fools !) -

....Amanda's praying about Davey's need to "escape". On November 10, 2011 Davey & Amanda move to Indianapolis...

NOVEMBER 10th. Could it have been scripted any better? Four years to the day Davey and Amanda moved, Amanda gave her life to see Indy changed. Davey did mention "four years to the day" in at least one of his appearances - similar to how he mentioned the dots the Lord is connecting here with respect to the getaway Sebring car being found on Amanda's ex-youth pastor's street (which if I remember correctly wasn't exactly true - didn't Bobcat or someone find out that the ex-youth pastor actually lives around the corner from that street?

If Amanda was listening to THAT story (exaggeration, always the need to make an even better story) about where the car was found, she would gently say "that's not true" - just as she did in the Love Song appearance week 6 where Davey was talking about the couple who had left Resonate and was miserable and wanted to come back.

Back to my question about November 10th - I wonder how long the Tuesday morning phone calls had been going on with Kenneth Wagner - I wonder if Tuesday was chosen for the conversations because November 10th would fall on a Tuesday (in other words, if November 10th - the appointed day for Amanda's departure - would have fallen on Friday, maybe the weekly alibi conversations would have been on Fridays? )

November 10th is just TOO neat of a coincidence - as if there weren't already enough of them.

Anonymous said...

flightful,

Almost, ALMOST four years to the day...

DB & Amanda moved to Indy on 11/11/2011. I know I've read it elsewhere but it is also written in DB's speaker bio:

"On November 11, 2011, Davey and Amanda Blackburn loaded up a moving truck and drove from Greenville, South Carolina to Indianapolis, Indiana to start Resonate Church, a place they hoped would bring new life to a city and reach people who didn’t know God."
http://ambassadorspeakers.com/ACP/speakers.aspx?name=DAVEY%20BLACKBURN&speaker=5764#sthash.qVdne3OJ.dpuf

Here's where it gets interesting...

DB 9/4/2016 (Talking about the evening of 11/9/2015) "And that night we went to bed, and, she was watching, dumb finds on Instagram, like, laughing hysteric, I’ve never heard, like jus, gut laughing, you know? And, and I was like, would you, I’m trying to go to bed, I’m, would you stop laughing? You know? Like I’m trying to sleep, I’m trying to read so I can fall asleep, and she’s like “hahaha” like I’ve never seen her more carefree and happy, but listen, I was annoyed with it. Know why? I didn’t know that I only had 3694 days. I thought I had another day…to appreciate the annoying things."

I wonder if Davey's grand plan was for Amanda to be killed exactly four years to the day on 11/11/2015. He thought he had another day... but for some reason, the crime spree was moved up to 11/10, although, luckily for DB, Amanda was "still" breathing until she was ceremoniously declared brain dead on 11/11 (four years to the day). Resonate shared the news followed by #nothingiswasted asap, even though Amanda was not declared officially dead until 11/12/2015.

Anonymous said...

Question for parents of infants & toddlers:

When your child was small, where was their bedroom/nursery in proximity to your bedroom?
Was it on the same level of your home?
Was it on another level, separated by a full flight of stairs?
Was it on a level with a dangerous (for a toddler) balcony and staircase?

News Report, Interview with friend (11/18/2015)
The couple's infant son was in the next room when it happened.

Davey's father states (11/22/2015) "I have no idea, how hard Amanda fought; but I know she was fighting because, little Weston was right upstairs above her, and she was not going to give up easy."

(11/30/2015) This family friend also said on this page that the baby was crying when the husband entered the house, and the dog was in its kennel.

(10/8/2016) "I, came home from the gym, and my, um, my greatest nightmare was, was sitting right there, in front of me. I walked into my house, and I found, uh my beautiful wife Amanda Grace, lying on the floor face down in a pool of blood. She was, 13 weeks pregnant. I thought maybe something had horrific happened to the baby, and that, if we got her to the hospital she would joo be just fine, uh my two-, at the time fifteen month old boy, now he’s two, two years, two months he was up in his room, in his crib still, completely untouched, completely unharmed."

(10/17/2016) "I remembered how that morning Weston’s door was still shut. I remembered sitting downstairs on the floor of our living room pleading with Amanda to stay with me as she struggled for every breath. I remembered I could hear Weston's soft coos from his room upstairs."

DB later states: (10/23/2016) "They actually got there in, a very quick amount of time, they got her, um, s-, s-, settled into the, ambulance, and then I grabbed Weston upstairs, who was, uh, up in his crib, and we followed, the ambulance to the hospital"

DB Speaker Bio: (2017) Thankfully, their fifteen-month-old son was left unharmed in his bedroom just down the hall.

Hey Jude said...

Is 'upstairs' an additional unnecessary word? I think upstairs might be sensitive - unless they also had a crib downstairs, and he's distinguishing between two cribs. If there was just one crib, one would assume it was in Weston's room, upstairs - yet often he has said 'upstairs'.

I still think Weston may have witnessed the attack - there is some reason why he did not make mention of checking on Weston or where he was in those early days - he did not want to speak about him. What a person leaves out of an account is as of much interest as what he or she says.

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All that 'my kid is cuter than your kid' and how adorable he is, here's a photo, or the toddler himself, which Davey keeps saying and doing before he goes on to make fun of and sometimes complain about Weston - is that need to persuade that he loves Weston?


Bobcat said...

When talking about the event, Davey says two things:

10/8/2016 he was up in his room, in his crib still
10/23/16 I grabbed Weston upstairs, who was, uh, up in his crib

"up" does not mean 'upstairs'. It means awake, probably standing up.

When writing about what he "remembered", he writes:
10/17/2016 I remembered how that morning Weston’s door was still shut. I remembered I could hear Weston's soft coos from his room upstairs.

There are two other reports that say Weston was in his bedroom down the hall.

Only Davey's father says on 11/22/2015 "I have no idea, how hard Amanda fought; but I know she was fighting because, little Weston was right upstairs above her, and she was not going to give up easy."

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Imo, it makes no sense that Weston's bedroom would be upstairs at his age. Nurseries are generally in close proximity to their caregivers' bedroom, not separated by a flight of stairs.

That explains why Davey is so insistent that Amanda died at the perfect time in Weston's life because he will not remember it, and the constant sensitivity whenever he speaks about Weston.

Hey Jude said...

I suppose where the nursery is depends on the arrangement of the house - I can't recall if there was there a full flight of stairs to an upstairs in addition to the few steps, or if it had just those few steps from the sitting room up to the bedrooms, so no real 'upstairs', as such, more one level with a raised hallway/landing. I suppose, if Weston was 'above her', then there was a real upstairs. IDK, though - maybe the layout of the house and how they variously describe it might account for the confusion.

Trudy said...

Wow. Great posts. There's lots to think about here. So basically the only piece of advice from Dave Ramsey, that Davey "anything he says, I do" Blackburn followed before murdering Amanda was to get a massive life insurance policy on her? It's fascinating to watch a narcissitic sociopath at work, drawing in other people to publicly (and personally) support their machinations, attempting to manipulate perception and avoid detection.

RE: I remember that conversation popping into my head, and knowing then that I could walk back into this calling guilt-free, and be able to reach a city who is hopeless and who is hurting and is looking for the hope to stand on in the midst of their trials. Knowing that we could intersect a generation of these underprivileged and at-risk kids. The same kinds of kids that, that killed Amanda. That we could intersect them now because, and I can walk into that guilt-free because of this organization

If crazy Davey had marched all bravehearty into "intersecting (does he mean intercepting?) a generation of underprivileged and at risk kids, the same kinds of kids that killed Amanda", by doing ANYTHING at all, I doubt I would be here today.

Crazy Davey said he "prayed for a platform" and he was given one. Gang violence. If the "home invasion" story was true, he would have used/still be using THAT platform. And how powerful it would be. But he didn't, doesn't and won't. He can't.

The closest he has come to underprivileged and at risk kids is probably seeing them in the street from his taxi, on the way to the airport.




Trudy said...

FWIW, I thought the bedrooms were upstairs and the living areas downstairs, but I don't know. The acoustics must have been pretty good (bad?) if you could hear a toddler cooing softly, behind a closed door, from downstairs, over the ragged breathing of his dying mother.

It's very important to crazy Davey that everyone knows that the thugs didn't go into Weston's room, and that Weston slept through the screams, overturned furniture, and gunshots that murdered his mother - even though crazy Davey has NO WAY of knowing.

Trudy said...

How many underprivileged and at-risk kids do you think will be "intersected/" by the Financial Athiest series? Good work Davey.

Anonymous said...



daveyblackburnJust found another one of @amandagblackburn's journal's as I was cleaning out my garage . . . All of her journals I've read up to this point are prayer journals directed at Jesus . . . This one is filled up with letters written directly to me . . . It may take me a while to get through this one 😢

Anonymous said...

Still respecting her privacy I see...@#$%&!!!

Regarding the layout of the house
http://www.estately.com/listings/info/2812-sunnyfield-court

Photo # 5. You can see down the hall to the master bedroom.
Photos 9 & 10 show the master bedroom with empty frame above the bed.
Photo 14 shows the nursery without the crib. It's on the main floor.
Photo 16 shows the upstairs guest room. The ceiling is angled along the roof line on both sides.
Photo 18 shows the staircase down to the front door and living room landing.
Photo 19 shows the balcony view.

Hey Jude said...

Oh, yes - definitely full stairs - I had forgotten about the balcony - now recalling how Davey said Jesus said he was up there watching Amanda's murder. (Davey making Jesus so unpleasantly voyeuristic.).

So, are you thinking Weston's room, as well as the master bedroom, was downstairs - yet Weston was 'upstairs' in his crib? I couldn't be sure from the photos that the nursery is upstairs. The laundry basket (?) visible in the downstairs pic is the one in master bedroom, so master bedroom is downstairs. Pity there is not a floor plan.

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On a lighter (or heavier) note:

http://babylonbee.com/news/megachurch-stage-collapses-pastors-massive-ego/

Hey Jude said...

Maybe that happened at Resonate, too, so now they have a 'mobile' church. Like a mobile dog grooming parlour, or hairdresser - can't afford to rent premises? Maybe seeing that all wrong - perhaps the mobile Church is in addition to renting the school auditorium, and an extension of Davey's flourishing megachurch, rather than a downgrade.

Hey Jude said...

Who did he say found the stash of letters from Amanda while he was clearing out his garage? That's not quite clear. Well, fancy. I bet they are all very adoring letters, explaining lots of stuff and clearing up all sorts of 'misunderstandings' people might have about his relationship with Amanda, and his lack of godliness. God will have laid it on Amanda's heart to do the right thing for Davey, just in case she was called to sacrifice her life to grow his church, and people might grow suspicious.

Do people fill books with letters to their spouse while their living in the same house? I suppose they might if they felt unable to have a conversation, in which case the letters might not be all that publishable, which surely these will be as he is already advertising their alleged existence.

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Thou shall not bear false witness. I bet Amanda had a lot of that to contend with in life, from Davey.

Why do I not believe Amanda left a book full of letters written 'directly' to Davey? It might be because he doesn't actually say Amanda wrote them - just that 'it is filled with letters written directly to me'. Plus, how very convenient.





Bobcat said...

HJ,

I stand corrected.

After studying the roofline photos and windows, it appears that Weston's bedroom WAS upstairs, with a window overlooking the backyard.

Trudy said...

Either Davey's lying to Dave Ramsey or he's lying on his blog. Davey has some nerve saying he's on baby step 8 overnight, (as if he was dutifully following Dave Ramsey's advice) when he obviously hadn't even taken baby step 1.

If he had taken baby step 1 - cut all and any unnecessary spending - Davey wouldn't have been at the gym that morning.

Hey Jude said...

Bobcat - I wonder if they always or sometimes slept in different rooms - upstairs nursery a bit distant from downstairs master bedroom - maybe one or another slept in the guest room to be nearer him, or they both slept in the guest room? I vaguely recall some earlier posts about them having separate rooms, can't recall if that was only speculation or due to something Davey had said. Maybe round the time he decided to introduce the night before (or of?) Amanda's murder, with his account of Amanda laughing as she watched silly clips on Instagram when he was trying to sleep.

Trudy - He wouldn't have been drinking all that Starbucks coffee he's addicted to either - that would soon add up.

Hey Jude said...

Meg staying and taking up a bedroom might have caused extra tension if Amanda didn't want to sleep with Davey but was left without a choice.

Bobcat said...

Davey has a strong need to persuade that it was only because of Dave Ramsey that he had a hefty life insurance policy on Amanda.

How many suggestions to have "conversations, you don't want to have" were broadcast on Dave Ramsey's radio show prior to October 2014 or at Legacy Journey LIVE! events?

Did Davey tweet about attending the Legacy Journey LIVE! event in Indianapolis in April 2014?

Weston was born in July 2014.

The Legacy Journey book was published in October 2014.

Hey Jude said...

I wonder did they have a matching policy on Davey? Even if they did, he can't 'win' here because if he was planning ahead, he'd be thinking it was only for the short-term and a worthy 'alibi' investment to head off suspicion. Whereas fairly, if they were both heavily insured, he could have just been acting responsibly. Davey and acting responsibly don't go together too well, though - it"s more likely he'd think Amanda's 'ilife nsurance' in the event of his death involved her going home to her parents with the baby - well, he said as much.

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