Peter Hyatt on "Crime Wire": The Murder of Amanda Blackburn
February 23, 2017, Peter Hyatt will be a guest on "Crime Wire" live broadcast, and will be taking your calls and questions at 9am to 1030AM EST.
Amanda Blackburn was a victim of a sexual homicide in which arrests have been made.
Questions, however, remain in one of the most bizarre 'solved' murder cases of recent years.
Peter Hyatt will share analysis of the case, including deception detection techniques, and what this may mean for justice.
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-Does Davey have a criminal record in South Carolina?
-When did Amber book her trip to California?
-What would her credit card records show?
-When did the Byars book their "bucket list" trip to California?
-What would their credit card records show?
-What happened on 11/8/15?
-Does Mamaw own a gun? Is it missing?
-What did Amber do on 11/9/15?
-What did Davey do on 11/9/15?
-Who cared for Weston on 11/9/15?
-Who cared for Mel on 11/9/15?
-Who "cared for"/neglected Amanda on 11/9/15?
Guilty Indicator: Suggesting other possible suspects for police to investigate, such as:
Kristi, "this innocent CI Anthony Shannon"Cheese"", Jeremy, Jay Broski...
Amen, and then some.
Kristi is on Davey's new podcast, as are these two:
Todd & Kathy Erb
Three years ago Todd walked into his house to find his worst nightmare and had his entire life turned upside down in a moment.
Kathy had her life turned upside down almost eight years ago when she lost her husband in an instant.
https://daveyblackburn.com/podcast/episode17
Thanks for the link, Anon@8:13. I've bookmarked it and will look at it later. I can't wait until this is over. I just hope that they get them ALL.
I saw that picture on DB's twitter feed and I thought that DB and KB had the oddest looks on their faces--almost like deer in the headlights (wired). Then you look over to the other two, and they just look normal and peaceful. Odd.
Heidi is KMs sister? Looks like she's got connections in Marion and with the prison system.
Resumes
Heidi Dormady - Indianapolis, IN
Work
Company: Correct care solutions marion county sheriff's department Jan 2010 to 2000
Assistant director of nursing, nurse educator, registered nurse
Company: Correct care solutions marion county sheriff's department - Indianapolis, IN Jun 2011 to Jun 2012
Registered nurse
Company: Correctional medical services - Indianapolis, IN Jan 2008 to Jan 2010
Licensed practical nurse
Andres Monroy lived on Blue Fin Drive Indianapolis. 30 minutes drive from Sunnyfield.
Anon at 9:21 PM
I saw that information, and I saw an older woman's associated name in the medical field as well, can't remember her name off the top of my head. I remember wondering if she was KB's mother.
And also a man by the name of (Stanley ?) Burroughs (?) and wondered if he was her Dad, IIRC, but could be way off.
I think it's Diana Lynn Dormady - mother
Leonard Harmon Dormady - father
Kristi ran a 10k in September 2015 and was on the ESKENAZI HEALTH team. A nurse(Jessica Rand) from ESKENAZI administered the rape test on LT's victim.
Link to 10k:
http://www.tuxbro.com/results/2015/cc15half4ind.html
Yes, I think so. I just found it. Thanks. Anon 9:57 PM
I thinks it's funny that Davey's ne SIL has contacts in Marion County's sherrif dept.
And she came in second. I hope I'm not reading into it, but there just seem to be so many connections, even the remote ones. In a place the size of Indianapolis, is it really possible to have so many links everywhere in this case?
Kristi seems to be ever there in the background, right down to the running, like AB. Maybe just a coincidence?
Another link with the nurse administering the rape kit, but I suppose that's more likely. The medical community is not that big in view of the whole city, I suppose.
As I have said before, every time I think I am finally getting a handle on this case, there is another link or coincidence.
One day soon, I hope, we will find out.
More coincidences with Kristi. One of the phone numbers that was listed to her is an address for Eskenazi Health Center at 6940 N Michigan Rd. This address is across the street from the first unsuccessful Chase bank ATM attempt (6881 N Michigan Rd, Indianapolis, IN 46268)
Dianna Lynne (KMs mom) lived on Roache Street, Indianapolis. 8 minutes from Sunnyfield.
To the Anon that responded about KM knowing DB for a long time before murder, is that a hunch or have we found connections? AND, there is an investigative show being worked on in re to this case?? REALLY, someone should seriously cover this and get to the bottom of at least the false timeline. And I want to see that gym video of DB's quick trip in and out of the gym, the 911 call and who was the "we" in we have nothing to hide.
And what made Kristi mysteriously start showing up at Crossfit and Resonate. Who counseled them on how fast they should reveal themselves after Davey ripped off the ring?
Bingo,
Yes, this case, among others (Abby and Libby murders in Delphi) are going to be featured on a show about unsolved crimes. They already have begun filming. There are research people, a former detective and a psychic crime investigator. It was the PCI that said DB and KM knew each other prior. She also said "Anthony. Anthony knows everything. They call him Tony. Amd he has a nickname." And she said there was an additional life insueance policy bought right before the murder. She said DB bought a very big house as he was planning on expanding his family rather quickly. I'll update when I get more info.
Bingo, sounds like Davey was trying to get wise counsel from Todd Erb to bust that ring off, but even Todd took longer than Davey, said he couldn't even think about it. I think he said it was like 2 1/2 years or something before he finally did. Unbelievable how many similar circumstances were involved with the two cases, Todd sounded truly sad.
Also, what are the odds that Amanda was buried 10 feet from Todd's wife? It's strange that Amanda wasn't buried in Elkhart or around family. Todd also went into detail how he was detained by le immediately, how he was brought down to the station for questioning, etc. Davey never does this, closest he gets is saying, "investigators and doctors came and got me and told me what was going on".
Video later today/tonight, ended up editing in more last night. Davey caught me up in one of his vids where he speaks to how nasty the internet has been about him. But anyway, sounds like he was seeking counsel from everyone and anyone where he could gain approval to get a new ring on that finger. I also added in how he stated God allowed this to happen, he could have stopped it.
Has anyone, in all the podcasts and videos Davey has done, ever heard him once be remorseful for leaving the door open? Remorseful about sitting in the driveway? He blames everyone except himself. Unless I missed it?
There was a green XXL men's sweatshirt found in the stolen Sebring. It didn't belong to Becker, as all of her belongings were listed, including the pink sweater. LT, JW and DG were all very small. Whose extra large sweatshirt was this? Hopefully LE tested for DNA.
Found a post online. It's in Spanish but it's pretty easy to understand. The guy was treated at Eskenazi Health by Kristi. It says she worked at 2 different locations: the one right across the street from the unsuccessful ATM transaction and also one on 9443 E. 38th St. She worked at this one on Tuesdays, according to this guy's blog. According to this, she was off on Mondays. The address to her job at Eskenazi on Tuesdays is a straight line east to where the stolen Sebring was found (3800 Rookwood Ave, Indianapolis, IN 46208).
Eskenazi Health Center
Grassy Creek
(Hablamos español)
9443 E. 38th St.
Instructora Kristi & Megan:
890.2153
Martes y miércoles & Fridays
Eskenazi Health Center Pecar
(Hablamos español)
6940 N. Michigan Rd.
Instructora Kristi: 221.3469
Jueves y viernes
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MG9dA07-r4UJ:studylib.es/doc/4800009/healthy-me---eskenazi-health+&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
It struck me as well he hasn't expressed any remorse for leaving the door open or sitting in the driveway for so long. Praying for them that morning and then leaving the house unsecured doesn't match up.
I wonder if it was a regular occurrence for him to complete his phone calls in the driveway or if it was only that particular day.
Davey speaks to girls/women being on the phone for hours, he says men don't do that, men "shoot, blow up things, go golfing", he contradicts himself at every corner. It was also the only tweet Kenneth Wagner ever tweeted pertaining to their conversation that morning, locking in the alibi.
For the heavy sleuthers here, where did Davey go to grade school? Was he yanked out and put into a juvey school or a military school? An insider says yes, I have yet to confirm it, if anyone else wants to look down that road, it may be worth it.
Wasn't Tuesdays what DB called his long days? Didn't he spend them at Starbuck's after the gym so that he could write, not going home after the gym (normally), except (another exception or coincidence) on the day AB was murdered?
I am (literally) praying that someone finds and turns his computer in. Even if it has been wiped, that is *nothing* to an experienced tech who could easily find what is or has been on it...
This is the youth group that Davey was involved with. It's kids from Eastview and North Central High School.
https://www.facebook.com/wtyounglife/photos/a.1639985729579943.1073741830.1636071763304673/1665520863693096/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/wtyounglife/photos/a.1639985729579943.1073741830.1636071763304673/1692760127635836/?type=3&theater
He refers to it in his blog "How Do You Deal With The Way Amanda Died?"
" I, along with about 15 other volunteers, formerly served at Wylde Life together (the Middle School chapter of Young Life).
I concluded not to dwell on the last 45 minutes of Amanda’s life and instead focus on all the memories we had and the legacy she was leaving behind.
To be frank, unless you've walked in to find your best friend lying on your living room floor, struggling to take every breath, blood smeared all around her, you’ll never truly understand what it’s like to wrestle with the post-trauma I’ve been forced to (and frankly it blows my mind there are some people heartless enough to try and assert themselves into this narrative with their own inclinations as to how I or anyone for that matter should be grieving).
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/how-do-you-deal-with-the-way-amanda-died
Btw, the Young Life group is based in Carmel.
Young Life Washington Township
4631 Lisborn Dr
Carmel, IN 46033-2200
Got the vid up. Please note that I had to adjust the speed on the clip with CD and the boy and toy guns, otherwise the clip goes by too quickly and it's hard to see. I also slowed it down as I found CD's facial expressions interesting. Davey sure likes his prop weapons and of all the activities that day, CD's at the gun activity. Incidental, but revealing. I included the "Strings" promotional clip because I believe Amanda was bound to a chair at one point, my own belief and opinion.
I'm just glad to be here among similar thinkers, please no kudos or anything, it's the other way around, I'm very lucky to be able to participate with all of you and am grateful Amanda has people out there who will leave a bit of history behind for her and her unborn child. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5taTpp0n_LM&feature=youtu.be
Does anyone know what's tattooed on the inside of DB's right wrist?
Question:
Has DB been theatrical all of his life? (real question, not a comment)
What I notice, among many things, but I will pick only a few right now:
His buzzed look in the weapon sermon—eyebrows raised, a complete rush of adrenaline, voice raised, fast speech.
I notice that there is a tremendous rush of adrenaline when he speaks. He seems to require control. I would be afraid to tick him off, even if it only meant having to witness and/or be in the same environment as his, albeit even if it is controlled, rage. He seems continually indignant about something and constantly peeved off. Like a big baby. God forbid anybody else should be the center of attention. It’s all about him being the center of attention. Thanks to whoever cultivated this, even if it was just him (sarc).
I just want to clear something up, since God seems to be blamed for so much here. God gave us each a free will. This happened because DB left the door open not because God allowed it. DB allowed it. The one (s) who murdered AB allowed this to happen. Whoever was involved allowed this to happen. But one who didn’t allow this to happen was God. How do I know? I know because he states in His Word, “Thou shalt do no murder”. I think that is pretty clear.
Don’t pity me or anyone else here (re-video), DB, somebody has to stand up for those who no longer have a voice. That somebody should be you, so yes, all of us strangers here have to do it for you—kind of like picking up after a big baby.
Thanks, Kate. Stellar work. I don’t know if DB is guilty of AB’s murder, but I *do* know that there is a lot here that needs explaining.
So well put together, Kate. God bless you. I continue to keep an open mind, but I also continue to be watchful. I also pray for DB, WB, and all who are or might be involved. If DB has his ‘stuff’ together, he should be praying for us, too. It would be so nice if we didn’t have to do his job but then again, nobody would if AB and baby B were still here.
Kate,
Nice job again. Is the Strings video from Davey's church?
Theatrical?
On Davey's old blog, started in college, he wrote that his mother once had made him a fancy suit for his role as "president" in an early elementary education school program. He was so proud of it, even in college, that it had a special mention in his blog, alongside XXXchurch (for those trying to break porn addiction) links.
Requiring Control?
Davey stated that when he was young, his mother would take him to the blood pressure testing machine at Wal-mart to "pacify" him.
Thanks, Bobcat--how would taking him to the blood pressure testing machine pacify him (this gets curiouser and curiouser)?
Anonymous said... Kate, Nice job again. Is the Strings video from Davey's church? January 27, 2018 at 2:45 PM
Yes, October of 2015. Unedited, no music added, full clip in it's original form.
Symbolic.
The only thing I can think of that might compare is Temple Grandin's squeeze box studies, which are proven to have calming effects ... and the control Davey had over pushing the button that controlled the cuff.
Dr. Grandin's research is brilliant.
^Thanks again, Bobcat; just so bizarre...After all of this research, I still feel like we are just scratching the surface. I sincerely hope to find one day that all the pieces fit nicely together, and there was no nefarious intent anywhere, other than from those already arrested and their (perhaps) higher up (s).
Nefarious INTENT or not, ACTIONS took place.
Someone put a bullet through Amanda's brain.
Someone shot her arm.
Someone beat her, "bad".
Someone bashed her teeth in/out.
What I was getting at is that the best-case-scenario is that we will not uncover a hornet's nest regarding people who were supposed to have been closest to her. It's bad enough that she and her baby are dead. Bad enough that someone murdered her and her child. The unthinkable would be that someone closer to her did it. It is my hope that this is not the case. Don't read into what I post and suggest that I find the actions somehow acceptable if they did not come from someone closer. By nefarious intent, it stands to reason that the murder and beating of this dear woman and her baby is as a result of this nefarious intent--how else could it not be. It is what it is. How deplorable it would be to find out that it came from someone closer.
That Strings video is Trauma conditioning type stuff. Sick images.
Davey likes to talk about his "sin" or human baseness as he sees it as "sharing" his humanity with the peons he ministers to. What he is unaware of is that many see his "baseness" as sociopathy, a real true lacking of empathy. His words bear this out, over and over and over again.
Who could be "closER" than "people who were supposed to have been closEST"?
For me, the unthinkable would be that a murderer was protected for the sake of image and reoffended, when that person could be living comfortably among their criminal brethren.
How deplorable it would be if a murderer was permitted to destroy more lives.
https://vimeo.com/51683382
Davey reused the Strings video from Newspring Fuse that was used in 2012.
How deplorable it is to set someone up to take the fall for a crime they didn't commit.
"Who could be "closER" than "people who were supposed to have been closEST"?"
I think that's what I said. Please re-read the post:
"What I was getting at is that the best-case-scenario is that we will not uncover a hornet's nest regarding people who were supposed to have been closest to her."
"How deplorable it would be if a murderer was permitted to destroy more lives."
That's the point. It looks like you and I agree.
Another good video, thanks Kate.
"For some of us, our conflicts look a lot like the black widow, right? Like some of you ladies are like 'I wish I could, just, like, kill him, you know' (laughs) and listen, it ok. It's ok to be honest in church."
Crazy Davey literally says to his congegation that if they are honest they will admit to wanting to kill their spouses.
It doesn't get much clearer than that.
The best case scenario is not exposing troublesome issues of Davey, Meg, and Amanda's family?
What's the worst case scenario?
I agree with 8:17. Crazy Davey shares personal anecdotes in a self-deprecating way to try and ingratiate himself with his audience. He thinks that others are as twisted, quick to anger, and as enthralled with violence and sex as he is. He is shockingly self unaware. These attempts to manipulate others through revealing his own "humanity" only serve to highlight his narcissitic and sociopathic nature and behaviour.
His "cute" stories about his interactions with Weston (slapping, punishing, abandoning him, forcing his feet into too small shoes, repeated toilet training accidents, mocking him, being embarrassed/frustrated by him, biting etc.) are horrific.
^I hope that you are still not responding to my post @4:55. How much clearer does it have to get. Please stop twisting my words. The best case scenario is that there is *nothing* to expose there. If there is, the best case scenario is to expose it. Why do you think all of us are here?
Please contend with someone else. I take time to post here because I genuinely care about AB, BB, and WB. I do not come here to argue or to be picked on. If you have a legitimate contention, then by all means, but arguing with me when I have nothing to argue about and twisting what I post to cause contention is of no value to me or anybody else except you, it seems.
The above post at 9:18 PM is for Anon@9:02 PM.
Great job on the new video, Kate. Thanks for all the time you have dedicated to this.
In the clip of of him describing a "knock-down drag out" fight with Amanda, it looked like he had to stop himself from saying too much. That must have been a bad fight.
He calls them fights instead of arguments or disagreements.
^ He said the fight was "awesome".
Are we lint in his warrior shoes or thorns in in his murderous side?
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/60107/20151125/pastor-davey-blackburn-accused-of-being-weak-in-choosing-to-forgive-slain-pregnant-wife-amanda-blackburns-killers.htm
Check out James Anthony's comments.
Crazy Davey appears to have the intelligence, charisma, and instincts of a jack rabbit with ADD.
Lol @ Lint thorn.
The Weston story really bothered me. A little over 4 months since his Mom was taken from him, God knows what he saw or heard, his dog is ripped from him, his home is no longer his home, he's shoved in front of a million different people and you ask where he's learning to bite? Where? A million problems wrong with that story and I bet it went down much differently than what was told.
I included the two clips about the phone time as he speaks to it being girls who like to go on and on and converse etc. while the men do the manly thing like shoot guns, blow things up and golf. Yet his azz was out in the driveway for almost an hour, ON THE PHONE, while his wife laid there, dying. Funny, he never mentions woulda, coulda, shoulda had he gotten in there right away and sought help immediately, could it have made a difference? Was time of the utmost importance with regards to Amanda's injuries? Probably not, but then again, the rest of the story would have to add up and it just doesn't.
And the looks.
It bothers me too. Have you seen the recording of crazy d describing how he removes Weston's diaper before spanking him? He laughs about it. The poor child. The "How's Weston Doing?" blog is sickening.
Yes yes yes to the "woulda coulda shoulda" that is so woefully lacking in cd's language. How about this Davey? You had an energetic boxer dog to run with. Why the fuck were you driving ($+time) to a gym ($+time) instead of walking your dog? Was that something Dave Ramsey recommended?
Davey's hypocrisy, his ability to speak out of two sides of his mouth really irritates me.
As for giving away Mel, how could you? Amanda loved Mel. "Part of the family." she said. Weston loved Mel, and Mel was a mainstay in Weston's young life.
The Mel factor is important in this case. And Davey's abrupt abandonment of Mel is significant, too.
Perhaps when he begins his grief coun$elling, crazy dbag will recommend rehousing the family pets, to help widowers and children get over the death of their wives and mothers.
Oh Trudy, you are one accurate and hilarious person, thanks for the much needed laugh about him walking Mel, I thought the exact same thing.
I haven't seen the one about Weston's diapering yet, do you know which vid it is? No rush, I need a break. The worst part about listening/watching his "service" is when the music comes in 25 minutes before he wraps it up. 3 or 4 chords are played repetitively and by the end of the show I'm climbing the walls, it's pure hell I tell ya.
His "sermons" repeat themselves often which indicates he is not well versed with all his early morning studies. Why did Davey have to work out in the morning when Amanda was alive, but when Amanda passes, he works out so late that the gym owner opens the gym up just for him? Isn't that right around Weston's bedtime/bath time/story time? I know he used his big book writing as one excuse, but more chicks at the gym @ night hmmm? The ones he doesn't want to look at? How convenient.
Phone records will be able to prove whether CD and KW regularly spoke from 7:00am - 8:00am or not.
If they regularly terminate their telephone calls at 8:00am, (7:00 -8:00 am like clockwork, every Tuesday) a delay of 20 minutes on that particular morning is a red flag.
As is CD not being ready for his weekly, hour long, phone call with his best bro, KW. If it was a regular call, why wasn't cd ready for it (but still took it) that morning?
We know he wasn't ready for it because he hadn't finished working out,
He also had not had a shower, which he said he expected to, but didn't, because he failed to adequately pack his gym bag. (Despite rising at 4:30am and doing fuck all before he left at 6:11.
Hi Kate, You do need a break and deserve a medal. One thing that all posters agree on, is that listening to that voice, spouting that utter bullshit, in those clothes, is intolerable. Most people, myself included, can only take 5 minutes at a time. Shout out to Hey Jude who has transcribed many a painful minute, and Bobcat.
If anyone remembers which cluster f the "smacking Weston on his bare butt cos it hurts more" sermon is, please chime in.
Just some things I noticed with watching many sermons, maybe others saw this pattern as well, nothing new.
Davey talks a lot about spiders, black widows especially. Davey has received some big funding both before and after Amanda's death. Where all that cash went and how they remain untouchable is simply bizarre. Davey's hook nine times out of ten is playing on peoples sadness, hurt, depression. "Hey, hey can I tell you something? Right now the lord is speaking to my heart, telling me hey, hey Davey? Someone in this room is hurting right now and they need to hear this...", no kidding, in todays world that's not a stretch with anyone. He has to tell the audience to amen him and give him feed back on a constant basis. Davey's mom was a strict disciplinarian growing up, or so Davey implies it many times. Davey has many issues with animals and killing them. Davey always referred to Mel as "his" dog when telling stories about her, proclaiming his love for the dog over and over and then he just dumps her when Amanda dies? My kids have been close to all their dogs since birth, they have always been a part of our family. I'm a broken record, I know, but what a prick.
Kate @ 1:51
"Davey has received some big funding both before and after Amanda's death."
Davey has said that he was broke and would have "given up" after November 2015.
What "big funding" did he receive "before" Amanda's death?
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"Where all that cash went and how they remain untouchable is simply bizarre."
Who is "they"?
Crazy Davey might not be averse to laundering money through any number of schemes. That "thanks" comment on his donation page after one anonymous donor donated $25,000.00 was weird.
The thanks was from the donor to Davey, not Davey to the donor. Unexpected. When it was discussed here, the page vanished. Amy Watchkeep or Bobcat has probably got a screenshot of that little transaction.
I find DB's incessant referral to in-laws in a negative context to be extremely odd. He mentions it in so many sermons, I've lost content. He often will say that when you're married the fights are over three things: finances, something else, and in-laws.
In his last sermon he speaks of how difficult it would be to have two wives at the same time. He only offers one reason as to why this would be difficult: two sets of in-laws.
Yet, DB continues to have a glowing relationship with Amanda's parents. Is he lying about in-law trouble to resonate with the audience, or is there more conflict going on than we know about? Living in Indy, away from both sets of in-laws, I would think that would be rather easy to get along with them, as compared to living in the same city. Thoughts?
Anon at 1:09, it is interesting that Resonate was involved with Young Life in 2015. From my perspective, it looks like Resonate did a whole more for the community BEFORE Amanda died for the church and all the dead bones. What do they even do for the community anymore? They go clear off yards every so often. Davey proclaimed that his bride died for great revivals and for life change but it doesn't seem anybody's life has changed except for Davey's.
Here is a picture of the auditorium when it is not closed off with curtains from 8 rows back because Davey still can't get anyone to attend his church. https://www.facebook.com/153514948076297/photos/pcb.1601941586566952/1601941403233637/?type=3&theater
Two years later, Amanda gone, Weston without his mom and I am just not seeing the massive revival, Davey boy.
Kate, I thought it was funny Davey talks about (in the video you made) how he was going to reach out to all of us doubters. Laughable. Davey isn't going to reach out to anyone except his travel agent, banker, decorator, landscaper, pool cleaner and book publisher. How is going intercepting that city, DB? Also, third week in a row, they have a guest pastor at Resonate. What happened to the new guy they hired? Does he not preach?
To the Anon discussing the investigative show, please share with us when this will be coming on! I am a little shocked more investigative reporters haven't looked into this case. I thought early on, surely Nancy Grace or someone would be all over this and all the weirdness!
He said the new guy is coming in February.
I have s copy of the $25,000 donation. I'm going to send it to the IRS.
Money collected for special projects via crowdsourcing sites also is generally viewed by Uncle Sam as taxable income. Davey is using this money to support his extravagant lifestyle. He should have to pay taxes and penalties, as we know he didn't declare it.
Go to 34:00 min mark here http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/signs-week-2-the-problem-of-pain/
Actually 33:50ish. The cat I can somewhat understand, but why kill a dog with your own hands?
Kate, I emailed you something.
Kudos on the latest video, Kate. I would not worry about them becoming lengthy - they are a helpful guide to Davey for anyone who is interested in this case. That 'Strings' introduction is so wrong in every way - it has nothing to do with 'shepherding' anyone's heart.
It's an insight into Davey that he considers people are not used to being honest in church - he assumes everyone is as insincere as is he in their efforts to live a Christian life.
Kate, I listened to the section about the cat and the dog. I mean , really? Does Davey have to ALWAYS leave awful images in people's mind to teach a bible lesson? Was it necessary to discuss shooting a cat in the head and killing a dog with bare hands and comparing your father nlaw to Michael Vick (who was arrested for heinous crimes on animals). Has he ever preached a sermon where it didn't use a weapon or violent imagery to share God's Love? Oh my.
Phil sounds like an ass. Shoots a cat in the head because it's in pain, instead of paying $20 to have the cat put down humanely. And killing a dog with his bare hands? Kinda makes me understand a little more about why the Byars take Davey's love offerings and go on trips with the creep instead of actually considering that Davey got rich off of their daughter's murder.
I am with my parents in Florida celebrating my dad's 86th birthday (yay!) I've been reading here but I had not had a chance to watch Kate's newest video and the other video where Davey was talking about Phil and the animals until last night (actually this morning around 3:30am) - fantastic job Kate as usual and thank you again for taking the time.
I am totally freaked out over the Strings series intro - with the black and white, with the choppy cuts between frames, with the creepy music in the background and the person (lifeless?) strung up. I cannot unsee it. For a church to be using this to promote a series is twisted. For this to be released just before the "pastor's" wife was murdered is unbelievable.
When Davey was talking about the cat who was suffering and in pain so Phil put a bullet in its head as a "kindness" - it made me think of Amanda suffering and in pain so someone put a bullet in her head - as a kindness to end her suffering ? vs to make her suffer more ? I think we all know it wasn't a random shot from a home invasion.
I don't like it that Kristi's place of employment was right across from the Chase bank with the failed ATM transaction. TOO many random coincidences and this is just yet another one. And that Young Life thing was in Carmel too. I cannot believe those two just met as Davey said they did - there's no way.
One more random thought for now - about Davey's statements that he walked into his worst nightmare when he walked in and found Amanda lying on the floor . . . in a pool of blood . . . as he was looking around for the reactions and listening for the gasps from the audience- I still hate it so much that he had to be so dramatic every time he told the story.
Isn't a worst nightmare something that
(1) you've thought about before or actually dreamed before
(2) that has a realistic chance of actually happening, in order for it to be a nightmare that you would fear and dread it?
Example - with my parents' ages and with my flights from California usually arriving at night, I think often about my parents driving up to pick me up at the airport and hope that they get there safely. It is definitely one of my worst nightmares to think that they could be killed in a car accident driving out in the night to pick me up.
And it's possible. THAT is a scenario which would be totally realistic and we've talked many times about my catching a shuttle or renting a car so they wouldn't have to drive out - but every time I bring it up they say they would miss not getting to come to the airport to greet. And I love seeing them at the curb / seeing them sooner !
I cannot imagine the guilt I would feel if something happened to them coming to pick me up - and I would be forever rethinking it - the what if's and wishing I could undo that instant in time. If I had only spent the money for a rental even though airport rates are insanely expensive and it would be parked most of the time once I got to their house - if I had only caught a shuttle even though they are scared for me to ride with someone I don't know- if only I had flown a redeye and gotten in in the morning (although an accident could happen in the daytime as well. . . )
But for Davey to say (more than once?) that HIS worst nightmare was that he would find Amanda lying on the floor in a pool of blood -
had he really ever seriously thought that he would innocently walk in from a routine workout at the gym and find his wife in the condition she was in?
That seems would be so far down the list of possibilities or thoughts for anyone who hadn't considered the scenario in advance.
And there was no remorse - no "what if" I hadn't gone to the gym - or lingered on the phone on the driveway after I got home, I could've gotten help and she could've maybe been stabilized sooner - or if I had locked the front door - or if Mel hadn't been locked up. . . there's only justification and excuses and explanations.
When are the trials? Anyone have a website where the trial info is updated? Or is that top secret information? What is taking so long with the trials? Typical DA/Judicial incompetence?
You would think Davey would be foaming at the mouth asking the DA why the trials are being delayed. I know if my spouse was murdered I would be on the DA's butt pushing for the trials and conviction of the suspects. The longer the trials of the suspects are delayed the more time it gives for evidence to be lost or information to be forgotten from witnesses, etc. I guess *that* is why Davey is NOT asking for the trials to begin anytime soon.
My case.in.gov is where you can look up trial info.
I answered my own question about one of the suspect's trial (Larry Jo Taylor) for the murder of Amanda:
https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6IllXSXlNVEl3T0RFd016RXdPamN4TkRBd09URXlZVEk9In19
Jury trial CANCELED on 3/20/17 - Why?
Jury trial CANCELED on 5/15/17 - Why?
Jury trial NOW scheduled for 4/2/18 - Think it will happen? I doubt it.
Lots of conferences and discovery filed entries. We can speculate all we want wondering if Davey is involved with Amanda's murder, but until the trials happen, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
However...since day one, I believe Davey is involved in Amanda's murder, as a murder for hire. Just MY opinion. The trials should be interesting. Currently Larry's trial is scheduled for 5 days.
Here is Diano Gordon's murder case:
https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6Ik9UYzRNakl3T0RFd016RXdPalUxTkRFd05ESXlNelk9In19
Jury trial CANCELED on 5/8/17 - Why?
Jury trial CANCELED on 7/10/17 - Why?
Latest update on trial: 1/26/18 Defense counsel is not requesting a trial date. Rule 4 clock stops. Pretrial conference scheduled for 2/23/18
Justice sure moves slow.
Here is Jalen Watson's Plea Deal which took murder charges off the table:
https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6Ik56QTBNekl3T0RFd016RXdPamM0TnpBd09URXlNR0U9In19
Judgment
Judicial Officer: Hawkins, Grant W
05. 35-42-5-1(1)/F2: Robbery Resulting in Serious Bodily Injury Injury to someone other than a defendant
• Plea by Agreement
06. 35-43-2-1/F4:Burglary Burglary of a dwelling
• Plea by Agreement
09. 35-43-2-1/F4:Burglary Burglary of a dwelling
• Plea by Agreement
Watson pled to robbery and burglary. A sentencing date may be scheduled on 4/27/18. Of course his sentence may be delayed if Taylor's trial is delayed.
I am surprised Taylor and Gordon have not entered into plea agreements. Maybe if they speed up the trial dates, Taylor and Gordon will then see a murder conviction is a real possibility and they will both start talking. Or maybe not.
Agree Anon about foaming at the mouth for justice if I were Davey. The only thing he cares about in relation to the trial is his book release. He couldn't even JUST write about the trial and justice for Amanda, he had to share the title with his book release. He is a piece of work. It is probably killing him that they won't release the book until after the trial. The publishers must have some doubts. I mean why not go ahead and release it?
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/trial-and-book
Great movies Kate! Are you going to watch ALL of them? Or are you getting help with which ones have things of interest said? I try to watch some, and he is still at it, saying weird things, but it seems something has changed since he brought KM into the picture. I also have always hated the "I walked into my greatest nightmare" story. He uses it always now, it has become the story. I also think he talks about how depressed and anxious he was, as an excuse for all the t weird and telling things he has said in the first year or so. Could have fooled me - never looked depressed or anxious to me on all his appearances, podcasts, while writing his book. I remember the first time he had AB'S family on camera after AB'S murder, and it always seemed to me that Phil was telling DB they didn't want him to become distant, like they hadn't seen much of him. Then next thing I know,n they are vacationing together every where. IMO it took DB a bit to not feel guilty(?). I don't think he originally wanted to be close. If he did have anything to do with her murder, it takes a special kind do sociopath to maintain close ties to the victims family. I also wonder why the trial is taking so long, but especially how JW got off the murder charge, and how they know whatever he said is true. IMO given enough time, it maybe only LT who will be convicted of murder, as planned.
Bingo, I since the beginning, I feel your thoughts are lined up with mine, and you express them so well, I don't have to write it, because you already have, lol! Such great posters here, I am always excited to see what's been written when I come to read this sight. There are so MANY things to wrap my mind around when it comes to this case. Such a tragedy, all I can say is poor Amanda and baby.
The prosecutor won't let the other two plea out. His voting constituency in Indianapolis would freak the f out. He needed one of the thugs to tell on the others and he got that with Watson. Given the new revelations about the time lines not adding up and the info about the large life insurance policy(ies) Davey took out on Amanda, he is having to re-open the investigation secretly. The prosecutor knows that much of the public and some Indy reporters are now aware that the theory presented by LE doesn't match up with the evidence. There will be a lot of activity in this case in the next few months. The only way that LT and DG would get plea agreements is if they say this was a hired hit. The prosecutor will need them to unravel the conspiracy. Courts will usually give leniency to the hired hitmen that turn on the those that set the hit up. DG doesn't want to be a snitch but LT should definitely start talking. His thug "friends" only waited a hot minute before they threw him under the bus.
What will crazy Davey do if DG and LT are acquitted? There is not much point in "choosing to forgive" men who have been found not guilty in court, is there?
DG and LT have the right to an expectation of innocence. Choosing to forgive them before they have been tried and convicted is denying their right to that expectation, isn't it?
Crazy Davey might have jumped the gun, there. Pun intended.
If Larry Taylor and Diano Gordon ever go to trial for Amanda's murder, I do not believe they will be acquitted. That is why I am surprised they are not trying for a plea agreement. I understand the DA might not want Larry and Diano to plea to lesser charges than murder, (manslaughter) as they probably have slam dunk cases with the murder charge (maybe).
However, if they are slam dunk cases, why are the trials taking so long? Why were the original trials scheduled in 2017 (all four trial dates) canceled? Not that anyone cares, or puts fire to the feet of the DA and the entire judicial system in Indiana. Everything moves at a snails pace and supposedly even Davey himself is perfectly fine with it (except the snail's pace is delaying his book which delays money and more strokes to his EGO).
As to Larry and Diano spilling the beans if they were hired to murder Amanda, well *that* probably won't happen as I doubt either of those two were the ones contacted directly for the hit. Probably it was the "higher up" gang members who were the direct contacts for the hit. Gang members don't snitch on each other.
Just follow the money. Violence and murder is always about money and EGO.
This morning I am reading a realitychatter board from 2015. Someone on that board brought up a good point.
Instead of grabbing the stolen goods and quickly leaving like most burglars, the intruders took their time to do what they wanted, left and came back.
This shows they knew that the husband was not going to come home and stop them.
Exactly, Anon @ 8:35AM. And Davey conveniently waited until 7:10 to leave the gym - the exact time LT was being picked up from his neighborhood. This, after being late for the gym that morning and not leaving until 6:11am, right after a dark-colored SUV sped down his street and sped away a few minutes later. Davey's phone records need to be thoroughly examined and LE needs to look for burner phones. They have phone records of LT and DG. There is one phone number in the APC that has no information written about it. That phone number's records will be revealing, as will Anthony Shannon's, Alonzo Bull's. Jeremy McGee's and Kristi's.
There are too many coincidences with Kristi to question whether knew Davey in 2015 - ATM attempt right across street from her work, her other office is near where the stolen Sebring was dropped off, she's off on Mondays and Davey on Monday had to "drop this thing off, ... run this errand, ... take care of this ... go meet with this person", her friend that works at the hospital starts a prayer chain for a complete stranger that just happens to be Amanda, stepdad is in regular conversations with the suspects, divorced a month before the murder, Davey and Amanda jogged in her mom's neighborhood, she just randomly shows up at his Crossfit one day, she tells Davey that she knows his pastor friends, married two years later and moved right into a house that Davey up-sized into despite losing half his family, etc etc
Except Anon @8:35AM, the suspects didn't linger on Davey's street. JW and DG didn't arrive until 6:25am and left 5 minutes later. LT didn't get there until 6:38 am and left at 7:10. Either Davey or somebody else burglarized Allison Becker's but it wasn't the three in jail, according to where their cell phones placed them that morning.
It's interesting that CI Anthony Shannon gave LE a black ski mask that he said LT left at his house on Nov. 10 (day of murder). LT isn't wearing a ski mask when he is photographed inside Jacola's and he isn't wearing it while he's wandering Davey's neighborhood, talking loudly on his phone and covering his face. Good bet that whoever is seen on surveillance video at Becker's was wearing a black ski mask.
Anon @9:26 thanks for summing it all up so concisely.
Amanda's family didnt hire a private investigator to do more digging, did they? They could have started a gofundme and many people would have contributed. It's not too late, they could still do that.
Blogger Hey Jude said.. It's an insight into Davey that he considers people are not used to being honest in church - he assumes everyone is as insincere as is he in their efforts to live a Christian life. January 29, 2018 at 8:17 AM (snipped)
Yes, he says that all the time, "Can I be honest? Look, I know nobody's used to being honest in church," and "I had a drug problem, my parents drug me to church." He says those two things in almost all of his sermons.
In Davey's podcast/sermon dated 11-23-14, "Better Together". Have you all listened? Toward the end of the service, Davey loses his shit. He starts bawling, (you can only hear it), because his dad couldn't make Weston's baptism and so his grandpa Jim was there to fill in. His Grandpa fumbled through some words and you could still hear Davey weeping in the background, I use headphones so not sure if that makes a difference, but it was interesting. Interesting that Davey weeps often in public, but uses a poker face when describing Amanda's details/death.
Grandpa Jim is a tough guy to track down. He wasn't mentioned in the obit, which was odd given he was a great grandparent to the unborn child and so close with the family. It was stated that Grandpa Jim was one of the main guys at the hospital who kept everyone's spirit up. Wesleyan church came out and said to pray for Davey and Weston, then included that Dr. Jim Blackburn was the grandfather. Wesleyan was heavily involved from the start. The only spokespeople used were both from Wesleyan. But Wesleyan kept an arms distance, hoping not to dirty their hands too much.
Does anyone know where Kristi's stepdad preaches at? Or his full name?
At this point, if the suspects have a decent attorney, it's my belief it will be a stretch to prosecute anyone. They may get LT, but the amount of reasonable doubt they have will be staggering and all the defense needs to do is point to Davey. Especially if le didn't confiscate Davey's guns, check for gun residue on Davey, check his cellphone records/pings, check his computers, check work computers, phones, 911 call, Amanda's journals that he put on display for all the world to see, all that background work that needed to be done, not just a visual from a surveillance tape at LA.
Any DA would have a field day with this case. Not to mention what the interrogation tapes reveal. The real question will end up being, will anyone be found guilty of the murder of Amanda and her unborn child?
Kristi's stepdad is Lee Ladd. His ministry is Extended Hands Ministries
Anon, Thank you!
https://www.theindychannel.com/news/neighborhood-s-latest-of-3-arsons-hits-activist-s-home
Bullets in the home and a $5,000 reward. Amanda's murder reward was only a grand.
I wonder if Lee knew the 3 prior to jail. I wonder if he knew Davey. What are the odds that Lee is 1 of 6 pastors to the prison system and just so happens to end up with Amanda's killers. The odds of all of these special circumstances falling into place are just incredible.
The odds of all of these special circumstances falling into place are just incredible.
Astronomical.
See the dots that “the Lord” is connecting here ?
More like see the plan Davey laid out so carefully and neatly.
Hey FFB, hope you had a nice, warm vacation and hope your parents are doing well. You were missed.
Yes, the dots are there, almost so blatantly there that Barney Fife could have figured it out.
If it went down the way they said it did, wouldn't Amanda be telling the perps her husband would be home any minute? I mean, they hung out that morning long enough to drink up, smoke up, shoot up, why not wait for the hub and take care of him as long as the adrenaline was pumping.
Did they gather any surveillance video from businesses and street cams near the atm to identify a face, how many people in the car? The pink sweater could easily be suggested as a plant, I hope that's not their smoking gun.
In Davey's podcast/sermon dated 11-23-14, "Better Together". Have you all listened?
I started listening here:
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/the-voice-week-4-better-together/
3:50
“This week we have the privilege of celebrating, baby dedication. Now, how many of you have ever been to a church and you’ve, you’ve seen baby dedication before? OK, cool. And sometimes, you’ll they’ll parade the babies up there and, most of the babies are not happy about it. They’re crying, they’re trying to do, you know, get, soothe the baby. Most parents, give them Benadryl. I mean, if, you’re ho- Benadryl honest; just knock them out. Right. It’s like cute baby. No parents drugged them, OK. And, and so ... just saying, if, s-s-, you- just saying. So, so, sometimes you do it, and, and, you don’t, do dedication you see it and you’re like what does that mean, I don’t really understand what that means."
Benadryl ... Zyrtec ... whatever it takes.
Bobcat, that's very telling. I'm now convinced WB was medicated to sleep, if he was asleep through all that AB suffered. Didn't the FDA quit allowing people to buy Benedryl for babies, way before 2014? For that very reason, parents overdosing infants to put them to sleep. I'm sure his congregation, friends and family thinks he's just kidding when he says some of this stuff. ANON 1-29-18 @ 8:29,mi really hope what you said is true, and they are reopening the case. Why would it have to be in secret, and how do you know this?
Am I dreaming or is Lee Ladd's extended hand ministries on 86th st, Indianpolis, where the successful bank transaction took place?
Also close by Guion St.
The successful ATM transaction was equidistant from Davey's Church at 1801 E 86th St
(2.8 miles) and Extended Hands Minsitries at 4010 W 86th S (2.7 miles). The Chase bank lies right in the middle of 86th St (1313 W 86th St).
And the bank was 8 miles away from Amanda's. They chose these banks for a reason. And then they drove south all the way back to 38th St to ditch the Sebring (almost a roundtrip), and then got picked up and driven north to Alonzo's.
I wonder why DB didn't choose to preach at a Wesleyan church. NewSpring does not strike me as a Wesleyan church, but I'm not sure on that one.
^^ Davey's story of planting a church goes deeper than what he reveals now. According to him, he wasn't pleased at being overlooked for a higher position. The full story sounds more like Davey got his ego hurt and decided to get the heck out of there. I don't think anyone had hurt feelings when Davey let, sounds like they were almost demoting him, but maybe someone else can listen in that some of Davey's sermons drone on for me now.
How God speaks through life circumstances: http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/the-voice-week-3-how-god-speaks-through-life-circumstances/
I think it is later in the sermon when he discusses this.
Where did Davey preach at last weekend?
https://books.google.com/books?id=xx9JDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT25&lpg=PT25&dq=guest+speaker+davey+blackburn&source=bl&ots=6ZOd4ZlQNK&sig=T8suG2Fs7YFinKorxOtXti7NxV8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcg-DhkYHZAhVD0VMKHf_NCIUQ6AEIUDAJ#v=onepage&q=guest%20speaker%20davey%20blackburn&f=false
What in the world is this???? So a book is out with the story, not using real names for suspects. OMG you guys, I think the publisher is worried about Davey being guilty. Why is this book published and Davey's is not. He wouldn't have to include the names of the perps, as this one did.
Well that's interesting. The editor should have been more thorough, though. The date is wrong. It was 2015 not 2014.
The parting shot that "it is not known by this author whether his congregation feels the same" after transcribing Daveys "God allowed this to happen" spiel, is curiously barbed.
I found something interesting today. A very early report of "what happened", reported by a close family friend of Robin and Amber.
Posted to facebook 11/10/15 8:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/tina.walters.167/posts/10207772064597809
"To all my Workout Friends... This girl that was shot was Ambers Sister Amanda Grace Blackburn not Amber. I have had a few
people ask me in the last couple hours ask if it was Amber.....
Ambers Sister lives in Indianapolis. She was shot and is in critical
condition. From a home invasion earlier today. She has a toddler
and is also pregnant. Her husband left for the gym and came home to find her... Please pray for Her.... and for Amber and her
family. They Believe in the Power of A God who is BIG and ALWAYS shows up... Thanks for your concern.. We love you Amber Byars Wilkinson"
If crazy Davey left home at 6:11, and left the gym at 7:10 and the each way drive is 20 minutes, he can't possibly have worked out at the gym for more than 20 minutes. That's a short work out.
Bobcat @4:20, unless you think the person who made that post was involved, it doesn't matter if they used the word "left" or "to." And after having all your false accusations about Amber blown out of the water by Peter ... you know, the highly-trained SA EXPERT ... don't you think you should avoid accusing people of things based on your crappy "statement analysis"?
Not to mention that your bolding of words with no explanation why they're "important" just proves even more how inept you are.
This book is just odd! https://books.google.com/books?id=xx9JDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT25&lpg=PT25&dq=guest+speaker+davey+blackburn&source=bl&ots=6ZOd4ZlQNK&sig=T8suG2Fs7YFinKorxOtXti7NxV8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcg-DhkYHZAhVD0VMKHf_NCIUQ6AEIUDAJ#v=onepage&q=guest%20speaker%20davey%20blackburn&f=false
He obviously didn't do a ton of research. Davey and Amanda were not very much in love as can be seen in Love Songs and Davey's degrading comments about her post death. Also, the church was not growing, it was DOA in Indy 2011 and has been since. It wasn't the perfect dream coming true. Davey tells us himself that they had emptied their savings account and had no money. They had two old cars that barely drove, having to receive a free car from a friend (how humiliating for DB, who thought he should already be on the it-list of mega church pastors) and then Amanda gets pregnant. Someone really should study this case and write a book though, but actually do research, instead of just copying and pasting parts of a police report and assuming because someone calls himself a pastor, that everything is just splendid and happy in the home.
It was apparently mandatory that all of the prisoners who go through work release center go to Lee Ladd's Bible study classes. JW and DG (and pretty much every Kilt gang member) were in Marion County jail, so chances are good that these guys knew Lee before the murder (and therefore good chance knew Kristi). I copied the following from a 2011 Post Road Christian Church e-zine:
"The following is an update from Lee Ladd, Executive Director of Extended Hands Prison Ministries here in Indianapolis. Lee and his co-worker, Bruce Lucas, minister in seven different correctional institutions throughout Central Indiana -- Pendleton Juvenile Correctional Facility, Marion County Jail, Indianapolis Women’s Work Release Center, Indianapolis Men’s Work Release Center, Marion County Juvenile Detention Center, Indianapolis Juvenile Correctional Facility and just recently were asked to come to the Plainfield Correctional Facility because there are inmates there who are asking to be baptized!"
Lee wrote a letter but I just copied one sentence:
"It is still mandatory that all the men and women at the Men’s & Women’s Work Release Centers attend my Bible Studies!"
This is a gag worthy new blog post indeed. He continues to prey on people that are actually grieving. This couple just got married after losing their spouses to cancer and a heart attack. Davey, stop trying to relate. You lost your spouse due to negligence at best. He also thinks he is an eloquent writer. Bleh
"They ushered me past two gray fabric couches facing each other, each clad in homey accent pillows. To the left I noticed built in bookshelves lining the wall. A shabby barn wood centerpiece finished off the wall while arrays of photographs peppered the bookshelves. My curiosity got the best of me while I hugged both Daniel and Brittany, and I strained my neck to see if any pictures of their previous lives made it on the shelves. To my right a long kids’ table lined a wainscoted wall and pushed under the table sat five cute little chairs. Daniel and Brittany showed me in and led me to a marble topped island where Brittany displayed a spread of fruits, cheeses, chips and guacamole and warm sandwiches."
Oh pallleaasse!
Sorry forgot the link
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/kitchen-island
He also says something about this week's travels put him Georgia like he is some huge speaker. I am sure it was some connection through family and it was just a moderate size baptist church.
Anon,
Peter has written at length about the importance of "left" and "to" in SA.
There is a story missing about the leaving of a place. Why is it included when Davey should have just "came home from the gym"? There is no need to include the reason Davey came home from the gym "to find" Amanda. An innocent statement might be "He came home from the gym and found Amanda". In a horrific murder, the words are very important. That they are stated the day of the reported crime, and mirror, in part, phrases that have been repeated by those close to Amanda, makes me wonder how far in advance 'the story' was written.
If the subject is only passing on information about "what happened" that was shared with her, the inclusion of "left" and "to" still warrants inquiry. Who told her what happened, using those words, on that day?
Bingo, I agree. "Nothing is Wasted" except for my time when reading that blog.
Re the Erb murder in 2014: I have a feeling that Davey modeled some of his own crime and responses on it. I noticed some similarities eg. Loving, devout Christian wife and daughter brutally murdered in their own home in the day time by black male. Pearls, phones and Chase bank cards stolen, but most of all Erbs words and reactions.
Erb talks about finding purpose. He says God allowed it to happen he doesn't know why, but God will reveal his plan. He talks about Job being tested. He says he doesn't want to be embittered because it will make him embittered. His wife and daughter are rejoicing in heaven, where he will meet them again one day. He memorized Romans 8:28 and it was very helpful and this:
"(Todd) knows God didn't waste this. He has complete, 100 percent faith that God will somehow cause this to impact lives for His kingdom, for His good," .
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God didn't waste this.
Davey the sociopath, modeling his crime and mimicking a true Christian victim of crime and grief? What do you think.?
https://www.wthr.com/article/faith-sustains-westfield-family-after-tragedy
My red flag went up when Todd exclaimed such shock at discovering Amanda's fresh grave a mere 10 feet from his wife's grave and nobody, none of them were the wiser. Throw that in the one million and one anomalies regarding this case.
Why wouldn't Amanda and her unborn child be buried in Elkhart? That is where Amanda said she'd go if anything ever happened to Davey. Phil Byars claims they are building the park in memory of Amanda, "to leave a little piece of her here with us". Because why? Wouldn't her grave be more of a piece of her than a park? Incidental, just find these people to be so contradictory.
Bingo@January 31, 2018 at 7:31 AM
YES, YES, and again, YES!
Yes, Kate. Amanda's grave 10 feet away with "nothing is Wasted" on it. What are the chances? He really is a sociopath.
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from the latest bleeeergh. The truth is there are hundreds, maybe thousands of people who are walking through very similar trials as you. When your eyes are opened up to this, it makes your problems seem much smaller in the light of the larger picture of pain in this world.
Davey likes to suggest that brutal murder and even early death is a "normal" occurance that anyone could expect to happen. He said something similar about him flying back into Indianapolis and realizing that thousands of people have been through the same thing as him. Ahem. No. They haven't. It has happened to some innocent people, like Erb, and crazy Davey is desperate to hide among them, like a wolf in sheeps clothing. He points at the truly grieving and says to the world "See? It happened to them. I am just like them." As if it gives him some sort of credibility.
You know what's really curious to me? That there is room for another name on Amanda's headstone.
A few years ago, a young local man's wife died from illness. I'm sure it was a difficult decision, but he put a single headstone above her grave. I don't know if he bought extra plots near her, just in case, but he gave her a single stone. He eventually remarried.
Whose name does Davey intend to add to the stone above Amanda?
#predator
“There were two and a half pieces of candy corn in her candy bowl.”
I suppose that it’s possible that Davey or anyone else cleaning the place up the day after the murder ate that half piece of candy corn. It’s also possible that Larry Taylor or Jalen Weston left that half piece. I’m hoping that this candy bowl was not overlooked by LE. A significant amount of DNA could have been extracted from the saliva left on the half-eaten piece, as well as whatever the fingers left behind and the tooth impression. It’s also possible that someone lifted the bowl and left fingerprints on it. The thieves were known to have kicked back and indulged at the previous crime site.
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/home
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In case anyone else was wondering what candy corn is, as I was (You can also get it in gluten free.):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_corn
Foreshadowing? https://www.instagram.com/p/BJfu11ohfUc/
I wonder if Davey, knowing that Amber had been desensitized to shooting animals in the head to relieve their suffering by her father ... convinced her to do the same to Amanda.
Thanks for the link Bingo. He's so sure that he will see Amanda again one day and they will all rejoice.
But what if Amanda doesn't want to see him? Doesn't he even remotely believe that she blames him? Even if he didn't orchestrate it all, he was careless for the leaving the front door open and selfish for sitting out in the car that long. The only person I see Amanda wanting to reunite with again is Weston, all the rest have failed her miserably.
Brenda Blackburn is a Child and Family Specialist and an Early Childhood/School-Age Education faculty member................Together they have 2 sons and 2 daughter-in-laws, and they are looking forward to becoming grandparents in August, 2014! https://brendablackburn.weebly.com/blog
Now then, who was expecting in 2014?
Yes, I agree that 'all the rest have failed her miserably'. The only thing that makes sense when you think of DB being reunited with AB and wondering how all that will play out is remembering that there are no more tears, no more pain....etc, for the former things have passed away, behold all things have become new. (my paraphrase)
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelation 21:4
http://biblehub.com/revelation/21-4.htm
I take that to mean that if DB is really a forgiven christian then he will be reunited with AB; AB will have forgiven all, since there is no more pain in heaven and all who believe in Christ will be like Him 'for we shall see Him as He is'.
"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." 1 John 3:2
http://biblehub.com/kjv/1_john/3-2.htm
I know that that probably doesn't make sense to those who are not christians, but basically it means that God's Love will supersede all things and all will be forgiven and forgotten, because we will be like Jesus, fully and completely (by faith alone in Him).
I hope this helps, Kate.
Weston was born in the summer of 2014.
Hi everyon,
In the book linked yesterday, "through an unlocked Door", the author writes:
'Stupidly, they actually drank from bottles of beer beer and wine at the home, and left them sitting there for the police to swab for DNA evidence'
Were they stupid or was someone else very smart? I'd love to know whose DNA was found on the bottles, and whether they were Allison Becker's property or if they been brought into the home and "left siting there for the police to swab."
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CDs latest blog has some not too subtle digs at Kristi. Eg. There never was a more beautiful blended family (what about your own, you tool?) and how it was so difficult to know whether he should marry her, that he had to ask advice from virtual strangers. (Another classic Davey move, if things don't work out with Kristi he can point his finger at his advisors.) He has so many wise counsellors he can use to absolve himself from the responsibility of his own decision making, when those decisions turn out to be wrong, wrong, wrong; as they invariably are.
And f*~< me sideways if there aren't only tanning beaches and piña colada in the "portal party" of heaven, there are also marble topped kitchen islands for dead spouses to sit around and reminisce about earth. God help us all.
Both anon's, ty. I don't know what I was thinking with the 2014 date and yes, I had forgotten that part, thanks for the reminder.
"To all my Workout Friends... This girl that was shot was Ambers Sister Amanda Grace Blackburn not Amber. I have had a few
people ask me in the last couple hours ask if it was Amber.....
Ambers Sister lives in Indianapolis. She was shot and is in critical
condition. From a home invasion earlier today. She has a toddler
and is also pregnant. Her husband left for the gym and came home to find her... Please pray for Her.... and for Amber and her
family. They Believe in the Power of A God who is BIG and ALWAYS shows up... Thanks for your concern.. We love you Amber Byars Wilkinson"
Nice find Bobcat !
The close family friend of Robin and Amber was clued in on the narrative and inclusions from the very beginning.
Shot - check
Home invasion - check
Davey left for the gym - check
Davey came home to find Amanda - check
God has the power to do whatever - check
I also wonder how long this was planned and how many people were instructed what to say. We know Davey instructed those who were attending Amanda's celebration of life service that if anyone from the media tried to speak to them, that they could let them know that although we are hurting tremendously, we believe that the best is yet to come - he was controlling it from the start.
Anon wrote this on January 31, 2018 at 7:16 AM (only a short three hours after Bobcat's post re the wording that Amber's friend used)
Bobcat @4:20, unless you think the person who made that post was involved, it doesn't matter if they used the word "left" or "to." And after having all your false accusations about Amber blown out of the water by Peter ... you know, the highly-trained SA EXPERT ... don't you think you should avoid accusing people of things based on your crappy "statement analysis"?
Not to mention that your bolding of words with no explanation why they're "important" just proves even more how inept you are.
It looks like a nerve was struck, here- accusing Bobcat of crappy statement analysis and being inept. Bobcat's explanation on January 31 at 2:07pm lays it out very clearly - statement analysis says there was NO NEED for the friend to say Davey left for the gym and returned home to find - when they could've just said he came home from the gym and found her. Extra information for sure.
Peter has written at length about the importance of "left" and "to" in SA.
There is a story missing about the leaving of a place. Why is it included when Davey should have just "came home from the gym"? There is no need to include the reason Davey came home from the gym "to find" Amanda. An innocent statement might be "He came home from the gym and found Amanda". In a horrific murder, the words are very important. That they are stated the day of the reported crime, and mirror, in part, phrases that have been repeated by those close to Amanda, makes me wonder how far in advance 'the story' was written.
If the subject is only passing on information about "what happened" that was shared with her, the inclusion of "left" and "to" still warrants inquiry. Who told her what happened, using those words, on that day?
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And Weston was absolutely drugged - Davey can't even talk about Benadryl in that audio without stammering and stuttering - and another time he said Zyrtec works ON Weston, not FOR Weston.
If crazy Davey left home at 6:11, and left the gym at 7:10 and the each way drive is 20 minutes, he can't possibly have worked out at the gym for more than 20 minutes. That's a short work out.
Plus which he had to change clothes when he got there and that would further cut into his training time - because he says he grabbed his gym clothes so that implies he was not wearing training clothes when he left the house. If he had stuck to "grabbed my gym bag" then that could've been towel and water or protein shake or handles and ipod or whatever. But gym clothes = changing clothes.
OR, he was wearing gym clothes already and something else was in the bag, which has been discussed before.
If not for that need for an alibi, it was such a short workout that he could've just skipped the gym altogether that morning. But the gym was the repeated narrative that even Amber's friend knew, that the Resonate Facebook page was amended to add, that has been drummed into everyone's heads from the beginning.
Funny thing, Davey says he left for the gym, but he's never once said he worked out...only that he came home "to find her..." and to shower.
Yet, he never fails to mention that he left for the gym.
Flightful, plus Davey indicated that he usually had a shower at the gym (5 mins at least) before 7:00 am, at which time he received his regular, scheduled phone call from KW. He was was disappointed he hadn't packed a bag well enough to do shower that day so he should have had an extra 5 or so mins. He was not ready for KWs phone call that morning, despite having that extra shower 5 minutes up his sleeve. He was definitely running late that day. The question is why, since he was up at 4:30am.
Foolsfeedon, I have heard him say, "got a workout in" and that he was "finishing up" his workout when KW called.
(Who drives 40 minutes for a less than 20 minute work out? It's not believable.)
Flightful, good call on the gym clothes and needing at least a couple of minutes to change. Also what about warm ups and warm downs?
Unfortunately for Davey, taking the regular phone call at 7:00 from KW was factored too heavily into his alibi. He should have called KW back after he had had time for a reasonable workout. But that would deviate from the carefully established "normal" Tuesday routine and he didn't want that.
I really would love to know what time Alison Becker usually got home, too. I believe it was 8:00. As KW said "what (all?) you need to know about this story is that Davey an I would speak on the phone every Tuesday between 7:00 and 8:00. " Yet on that day, the call went for an extra 17 minutes, until Alison Becker got home. Davey wanted Allison Becker to call 911 first. What are the chances that two homes had crimes committed in them hours earlier but the occupants of both homes, call 911 hours later ; but within minutes of each other? (Broken record, I know.)
So, he left late for the gym, had an extremely short workout and missed his shower. But made it in time for the regular phone call. What was inside that gym bag?
The court confirms Watson is pleading guilty to one count of robbery and two counts of burglary in connection with the case. Per the agreement, all other charges, including two counts of murder, will be dismissed.
Marion County Prosecutor, Terry Curry said Watson agreed to help in the prosecution against the co-defendants in the Amanda Blackburn Case.
Curry said he’s pleased with the outcome and he as well as Watson’s attorney have been working on an agreement for months. Curry said he felt the agreement was “appropriate.”
“We were confident his involvement was certainly less than the others in addition to the obvious which is obtaining his cooperation in the prosecution of Larry Taylor and Diano Gordon,” Curry said. http://fox59.com/2017/10/27/man-charged-in-connection-with-amanda-blackburns-murder-pleads-guilty-to-robbery-burglary/
Two counts of murder were dropped in exchange for his testimony. His testimony had better be one stellar performance to have two counts of murder dropped. If he does tell the truth, great job. But if he lies, his words will directly impact a then teenagers life, for the rest of his life. DNA should be all over every one of the crime scenes for as long as they hung out, wonder why they needed Watson's testimony so badly to be working on an agreement "for months" when the DNA, surveillance, vehicles, witness testimony, cell phone pings (even if they have them wrong), were so airtight that by hour 36 they completely cleared Davey. Why would they even need Watson's testimony with all that evidence? One murder count with a plea deal is something, but how common is it to plea out of a two count murder? Whether directly or indirectly involved.
“We were confident his involvement was certainly less than the others in addition to the obvious which is obtaining his cooperation in the prosecution of Larry Taylor and Diano Gordon,” Curry said.
That's not the song you sang at the presser.
And CD agreed with the plea deal. No angst, not a question, just calmly accepts.
(Part 1)From Day One, I felt DB was guilty. He was guilty of many things including insulting his wife publicly and belittling her every chance he could publicly so we know it was much worse when they were alone. How miserable Amanda must have felt on the train ride with the burden of carrying DB like an albatross around her lovely neck. She proved to me that she was a very strong woman during that taping. Would we see tears welling if she wasn't wearing sunglasses? Or would she never give him that pleasure of letting him see her cry?
After Amanda's brutal murder, I felt the church, ie, Perry, would release him instead of embracing him since Perry made him stay with him the month following. DBs sermons are shocking thus, it's no wonder the thugs would enjoy his trashy talk. I jumped into rabbit holes and what I learned about Perry and his shenanigans weren't all good.
It is shocking that Amanda's entire family attended DBs marriage. Does that family live in an alter universe? I was unaware of the possible complicity her own sister, Amber, may possess. Was she jealous of Amanda? I recall they had a dual wedding so jealousy doesn't seem to fit with them sharing such closeness. I don't remember how DB became financially able to move into that swanky home so I'll assume life insurance paid for it. Was there a GoFundMe acct opened for Weston? (I may have that wrong in that Amber's not her sister. It's an impression from reviewing the FB page which I'm glad to have found, btw.)
I find it intriguing that there are hints of Amanda being injured by DB prior to the black male entering her home to further damage her. I'd like to learn more about the possibility of her hanging. I haven't read all of the comments yet. I stopped reading when the bickering began about Amanda's cookies to compose this post but I will trudge through the haranguing because I want to see Lady Justice sweep Mr. B off his feet.
I was involved with a forum, at the time of Amanda's murder, that did not allow any suggestions that DB was involved so the finer points of when the thugs began their evening together are fuzzy as are their precise movements that evening. The ringleader who got the ball rolling must have been an associate of DBs possibly one of "these people". Was there a SW issued for cell tower data? Did DB possess a burner phone?
(Part 2) Is it possible that DB knocked his wife around to assure little "Evie" would be lost then, the thug entered the house simply to rifle through her items to get the debit card? My memory fails on the matter of DNA found that would prove the black guy successfully raped her.
The gang was awake all night and drank at Bs neighbor's home so they lived a skewed lifestyle that could have made the confession easier to come by. Perhaps the right person was not arrested since none of them rolled on DB. No one was more shocked than myself that DB was not arrested.
There is a well-known corruption in Law Enforcement in IN. ISP have been arrested for their involvement in child porn and molestation last year which is probably nothing new. The state Fire Marshall retired after producing an erroneous and false report on the fire that claimed four little girls' lives. Consequently, his son resigned as a Fire Chief. Indy is definitely a stronghold for trafficking so it would be a good place for planting a church.
My apologies for not understanding why Amanda thought it was a nice place to raise her children especially given the way DB treated her. Surely, her inner soul worried about his awful demeaning treatment given his propensity to be addicted to porn and publicly poking fun of her about their sex life. Would it be a long jump to consider DB wanted or demanded rowdy sex from his partner that would include being held in bondage? As that does not seem a personal activity Amanda would find pleasurable.
Did Amanda keep a journal? Did Amanda share, with anyone, the hurt she felt and a need to disengage from the bondage of hell that was her life with DB? She was so talented with her accomplishments of seeing the beauty in something old and refurbishing it into something lovely. Amanda possessed wonderful qualities most men would deeply appreciate and admire in their wife including the home cooked meals and baked goods, even though she never knew when, or what time, her husband may be home to enjoy the privilege of her many fine works and thoughtful, kind ways.
Weston calling another woman mommy woefully hurts me. If it brings him comfort then, it shouldn't matter to me for Weston is precious in my eyes and the best life is wanted for him. It's as if the wrong person died. That may seem cruel but life is a battle in a war zone, when living with a malignant NPD. There were probably moments when Amanda thought "Is this reality? How did this happen to me and what I needed from life?" Because DB displayed the classic double bind psychology, in which, is a confusing demoralizing message of "I love you. Come here." And, then, "I hate you. Stay away." Can we imagine how Amanda felt when he didn't speak to her for days after his mistress grill was dented? Oh, if she could afford it, I'm sure she would have replaced it for a newer better one.
Lastly, does anyone know if the unborn baby was planned? It seems that knowing he was having another child embittered DB to the point of igniting the plot her fatal demise the day he learned about it. If only we could turn back time so Amanda could not look back and just Run for her life and Weston's.
May she know of the love shown for her on the Internet among strangers. Wouldn't she want DB exposed for the hedonistic harlot he is? Shouldn't his Church realize he is a heretic?
ANON AT 10:38 AM asked:
"I don't remember how DB became financially able to move into that swanky home so I'll assume life insurance paid for it."
Yes. Good assumption.
"Was there a GoFundMe acct opened for Weston?"
Not for Weston, for Davey. Megs asked that the money be sent directly to Davey at Resonate's FB page, probably because after someone gets $10,000, gofundme reports it to the IRS as income. There was another gofundme type site set up as well for Davey, a Christian one and he got almost $30,000 from it. And then, every church and even Eastview elementary school and Davey's flag football team collected love offerings for Davey. He most likely received over $300,000 from these offerings.
"The gang was awake all night and drank at Bs neighbor's home"
Actually, the 3 suspects weren't on Davey's street when the neighbor's home was burglarized. Surveillance only shows one person inside but not video oe or pictures have been released, nor was a physical description leaked.
"Did Amanda keep a journal? "
Yes, and Davey shared portions of it publicly, despite the fact that he said Amanda was private and wouldn't have wanted her feelings public.
"Lastly, does anyone know if the unborn baby was planned?"
No but Amanda did seem to have reservations about telling Davey she was pregnant. And Davey announced it to the church the weekend before Amanda was murdered, yet he nor Amanda had told their families she was pregnant again.
How must everyone feel that gave their hard earned money to Davey just to see him join a country club, buy a giant house with a pool, new car and more trips in the last two years than most people take in a lifetime. I bet you he raised close to a million or more. He kept the donation page open for over a year. He also complained when people sent gifts instead of money or gift cards.
It just amazes me that the three guys weren't even at the first house. The police sure did make it sound that way, didn't they? They said in the presser that the guys wanted more money and walked over to the Blackburn's house. But that is not true! Why are they lying? I guess part of the payment for the higher up gang members was knowledge of an empty house and what time the resident would be gone and return.
Someone needs to let the gang members that aren't locked up know about all the cash DB gained from this so they can pay him a visit and collect a fair share for the job they were hired for. Of course I am kidding but I have no doubt that he never realized that he would have hit this kind of jackpot. This is what makes this type of guy want to do it again when the cash runs low because they think they can make it happen again. Look out wifey #2
Well, someone is paying for Diano Gordon to have a private defense attorney as opposed to a public defender so the gang is still getting money somewhere. Most are in jail, with the exception of Jeremy, the guy that worked out at Davey's gym (actually, three of the older gang members worked out at Davey's gym, as did Jeremy's girlfriend at the time). The gang doesn't give a rat's ass about LT and JW was only slightly higher on the totem pole. JW initially got a few "Free Lil Watt" mentions but those have dried up and the gang is actually pissed that he's talking to LE. DG, however, is a bona fide member of the gang (and a relative of one of the otg gang members). The gang still posts pics of DG with "Free DLoc" fairly often.
Looks as if DB's book has a release date of March 1st, 2018 and is now available for pre-order...
https://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Wasted-Forgiveness-Finding-Purpose/dp/1613759916
Jay Broski posted this on FB. The intersection is the same one that the stolen goods from the rape case were dropped off at. Still trying to connect Anthony Shannon, the guy that was with LT on all 3 days of his violent acts and also was the CI for two of those crimes, and the Kilt gang. Maybe they all went to the same barber? Or just knew each other from the neighborhood. Anthony Shannon isn't very active on SM so don't know if he also went to LA Fitness.
Jay Broski
December 31, 2013 ·
At the barber shop on 56th and Georgetown!
And this gem. JW better be placed in witness protection once he's freed. That little red devil emoji is the Kilt's gang sign on SM.
Jay Broski
December 23, 2014 ·
Death to all snitchs 😲😲😲😲😲🔫🔪💣💣💣👊😒👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿
The money. Can you imagine what they raked in at Amanda's memorial? The money from the t-shirts and props, the offerings, his paid speaking engagements, life insurance, the money poured in. It didn't stop with Davey either, both families have benefited greatly since Amanda's death. Now Dave Sr. is doing speaking engagements and his last sermon spoke of him doing great things in 2018, but not striving to be successful, whatever that means.
Forget the gangs help, where is the black lives matter group? Any civil rights groups? I'm not saying these 3 are 100% innocent, but anyone who would look at this case would sniff a set up, especially using an 18 year old.
"Death to all snitches", I'm surprised one of them hasn't been capped yet.
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triggerua@11:49 AM
" Of course I am kidding but I have no doubt that he never realized that he would have hit this kind of jackpot. "
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"“Wow. So you’ve been closely connected with our story for a while then, huh?” I peered at her with a new interest. You see, [several months after Amanda passed] I wrote something in my prayer journal: Lord, if you ever bring me another wife here’s what I ask for, that she loves you more than she loves me, that she loves me, that she loves Weston, and that she loves Amanda.
[I knew that was going to be crucial] [because much of my life to come] I’ll be sharing Amanda’s story and our journey through trial and tragedy.
It would take a special woman to step into that calling, a secure woman, someone who was grounded in her own identity with Christ and who wouldn’t merely be okay with me carrying the story but [who would be able to help me champion it]." (brackets by me for emphasis)
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/she-said-yes
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It looks like he did. He sold T-shirts at his brutally murdered wife and child's funeral (cupcakes too, from what I have read here). He set up a business 'serendipity' soon after. A gofundme was set up in his name--all proceeds from T-shirts also going directly to him. Funds were (and maybe still are) funneled through his 'church'. He petitioned and accepted, and is still accepting, donations. He appealed to churches for money. There was (and maybe still is) money, money, money from the get-go. (If I have left anything out, Posters, please add to this list.)
No, from my narrow window here and all of my research, along with the research of several here, it looks like there was, and still continues to be, an obscene focus on money, donations, trips, and an almost opulent, if not lavish, thirst and/or focus on this type of lifestyle. I have not found, so far, one place where DB has donated or given to a cause that he claimed that he and/or AB were supposedly giving their lives to--other than the 'consuming it upon their lusts' lifestyle that DB seems to demand, right down to, I believe, first-class, all the leg room you can, Disney lifestyle that he has been gorging on for the last over two years.
If I am wrong in this, please post. If I have omitted any information, please add to this. This, of course, is just my observation and my own opinion up to this point with the information that has, and continues to be as I search, available to me.
LN
^^To add to the list: the large, controversial insurance payout; the complaints from DB not to send gifts but to send cash and/or gift cards instead--he was actually annoyed with people for sending gifts instead of cash or gift cards.
The huge expenditures--the large, new house with all the bells and whistles. The constant appeals for more speaking engagements and more trips, etc.....
I think Davey has a ghostwriter. He spews garbage when he speaks, I find it odd he writes a blog without the same undertones to violence and sex as he does in his sermons.
"(I may have that wrong in that Amber's not her sister. It's an impression from reviewing the FB page which I'm glad to have found, btw.)"
What are you saying, Mannequin?
Anon @ 3:41
I wasn't certain if Amber was her sister because it has been a long while since I was vested in Amanda's murder. Hence, I inserted the disclaimer.
"The ringleader who got the ball rolling must have been an associate of DBs possibly one of "these people"."
It's interesting that you chose that phrase, as Davey "pushed the ball forward" on 11/9/15.
Who do you think the ringleader was?
According to his Instagram, the work-shy charlatan is planning yet another trip to Israel in April or May of 2019.
"Downward Relationships" sermon, Father's Day of 2014
Sermon Summary: The thing about downward relationships is they seldom bring anything to the table. Your 2-year-old isn’t going to contribute to the household income. So how do we lead and love the relationships underneath us that tend to drain us?
DB wishes that Weston would want to mow the grass for him and contribute to the house hold income to help him "carry the load." From around the 12 minute mark. This is two months before Weston was born. Who thinks this way? Sick foreshadowing of his desire for income and someone to help "carry the load."
Funny you should say that as the latest Insta has Davey sucking up to Amanda's dad, thanking him for sharing the load.
daveyblackburnWhat an incredible honor to lead a trip to the place that brought me so much healing with @amandagblackburn’s dad, Phil Byars. Sharing the teaching load with this guy was one of the greatest joys of my life! Can’t wait to do it again! (You should definitely come with us next time! Stay tuned for info on our next trip!)
It is testament to crazy Davey's sociopathy that he thinks that because children do not contribute in terms of labor or financially, that the relationship with that (poor) child is beneath him and tends to drain him. Jesus said suffer little children to come into me,
Crazy Davey says little children make me suffer.
PS: And what's whit that @amandagblackburn crap.
Her name was Amanda.
Mannequin @10:36,
Amber was not complicit in Amanda's murder. That is just a sick fantasy dreamed up by bobcat, who has ZERO statement analysis training. Bobcat spent many, many months falsely accusing Amber of involvement; however, Peter recently blew that out of the water. Bobcat now looks foolish, as do the lemmings who blindly follow her and accept without question her bastardization of statement analysis. And not one of these cruel, soulless people has the decency to acknowledge all the garbage they spewed about Amber was wrong.
Amber or whichever member of the Byars family is Anon at 12:11: Most of us don't share Bobcat's opinion about Amber but we respect her tenacity. The same can't be said for your family, which has chosen to ignore the obvious evidence pointing towards Davey and instead selling out for 5 star vacations at your dead sister's expense. It really makes our skin crawl.
Anon @ 12:11,
I don't think Amber was complicit in Amanda's murder. I think she is a coward.
And I am still waiting to be contacted by her libel attorney.
And I still want to know what condition Amanda was in BEFORE Davey left for the gym on 11/10/15. And what really happened on 11/9/15.
What changed your mind about Amber's involvement Bobcat? You've been saving forever she was involved.
In what alternate universe would anyone have fantasies about someone helping murder their sister? Withholding assistance is one thing, (and understandable in Amber's reality if she knew Amanda would never fit into the perfect golden tipped Byars world again after what was done to her), and is not a crime in Indiana. Selling flowery testimonies to rewrite horrific memories also isn't a crime, and if that is the extent of Amber's involvement, I understand her desire to do so.
My problem is that if Amanda had a bullet in her brain on 11/9/15, and Amber has knowledge of it, she is protecting a predator, at minimum. She also should speak up for the B&E kids if she knows they didn't kill Amanda.
The first time I realized the possibility that Amber's storytelling may have been invented to paint an illustration of 11/9/15 that was very different from what the reality was for Amanda ... I felt sick. There was sickness, but no fantasizing.
@Anon at 5:30
"The ringleader who got the ball rolling must have been an associate of DBs possibly one of "these people"."
"It's interesting that you chose that phrase, as Davey "pushed the ball forward" on 11/9/15.
Who do you think the ringleader was?"
If memory serves me correctly, that ringleader would be Diano Gordon, who got the ball rolling toward Amanda because, obviously, DB wanted clean hands.
May I ask why it was DB who "pushed the ball forward on Nov. 9, 2015?" If the final outcome remains the same, with Amanda and her unborn in the hospital, preparing to become organ transplant donors then, I shall concur.
Davey said he pushed the ball forward, although he removed himself psychologically from it by dropping his pronoun.
Davey tells about Monday 11/9/15:
And so I, you know, rush into the bathroom while she’s, getting ready and I, kiss her goodbye, and I, walk out of the house. And, n-and I spent the rest of that day, doing things. (X) Pushing the ball forward."
Quote from the "What Happens When You Die" sermon of 9/4/16.
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/942016-what-happens-when-you-die-week-5.html
Even the last day of Amanda's day on Earth was all about Davey. He was so busy, she was taking it slow. He was reading and trying to sleep because he was so busy running his glorified SS class, while she looked at dumb finds. It amazes me how he thought was so important. He could have run Resonate for like 4-5 hours a week. There was and still is very little mission or community work. It appears the only church that happened was on Sunday for an hour. How was he so busy? He didn't preach real sermons. He just up on stage and started blabbing nonsense. Why did he need a long day on Tuesday for writing? What was he writing?? Maybe preparing public statements and deciding what people should wear at Amanda's funeral? What everyone should say to the press?
Also, buying the big house with the giant master bedroom and king size bed makes sense now. The pool, all the extra rooms. He was preparing a home for his new blended family. Why would he even think about buying a house that big? He knew, Kristi knew.
Bobcat,
Amanda did not have a bullet in her brain on 11/9. Amber did not withhold assistance. That's a SICK FANTASY you dreamed up, claiming you discovered these things through SA. But you're an untrained, SA hack. Are you suggesting you know better than Peter? Just admit you're wrong, ffs. Just admit that you, over and over again, falsely accused a grieving woman of participating in the murder of her sister. But you can't, can you? You'll continue to sit on your perch, squawking and flapping your wings like the vulture you are and pretend you're qualified to accuse anybody and everybody of being involved/complicit in murder based on SA. The only thing you should feel sick about is the garbage YOU'VE spewed here.
I believe you anon. I think Amber assisted quite a bit on 11/9/15. It's like politician would say ... I assisted before I stopped assisting.
What does "assistance" look like?
What would Davey, Amber, and Amanda's cell phone pings show for 11/9/15?
I provided assistance with this, but not that.
"If memory serves me correctly, that ringleader would be Diano Gordon"
He's definitely not the ringleader but he was in charge of JW (and LT for a brief period) that morning. DG was taking orders, which is why he was careful to 1) not be the driver, 2) not be the guy that used the ATM cards, 3) not to go inside Jacola's or Amanda's and 4) to be the first to rat out LT to the cops.
DG's orders came from Alonzo Bull and others who were smart enough to drop young and dumb LT off on Amanda's street and strand him there for 30 minutes, hoping he would be arrested on the spot. That didn't happen and surveillance video led LE to the Sebring, which led LE to JW and DG. The chain is still being unraveled and will be before LT's trial. LT's defense attorney has a sworn duty to represent him to the fullest and he is aware of the timeline and evidence inconsistencies as well as Davey's life insurance policy windfall. Hell, even Donae Mitchell told LE that the gun used in the killing was left at her apartment by "either JW or DG" and NOT LT.
It takes time for these cases to come together. Just watched a Dateline where a white guy hired a black guy from his gym to murder his wife. Husband was far away in Alaska while wife was killed so at first he wasn't a suspect. LE began digging deeper and used cell phone traces to match everyone up. There were burner phones but the suspect forgot to delete a message from husband and LE matched husband's voice to the recording. I think it was 3 years before husband was arrested.
Bobcat,
Amanda did not have a bullet in her brain on 11/9. Amber did not withhold assistance. That's a SICK FANTASY you dreamed up, claiming you discovered these things through SA. But you're an untrained, SA hack. Are you suggesting you know better than Peter? Just admit you're wrong, ffs. Just admit that you, over and over again, falsely accused a grieving woman of participating in the murder of her sister. But you can't, can you? You'll continue to sit on your perch, squawking and flapping your wings like the vulture you are and pretend you're qualified to accuse anybody and everybody of being involved/complicit in murder based on SA. The only thing you should feel sick about is the garbage YOU'VE spewed here.
Wow that was an extreme flood of consciousness, anonymous poster from February 2nd at 7:45am.
Are you feeling the heat ? You certainly seem to be.
Methinks thou dost protest too vigorously ! Why does Bobcat bother you so much ?
You expended a great deal of emotion and energy writing that post trying to ridicule and silence. It is not going to happen. If you could channel that energy into finding the truth - getting Davey to answer the questions that are possibly or probably going to be asked of him when he is on the witness stand - we'd already have the answers.
For the record, the two questions repeatedly asked that Davey has yet to answer and explain are -
- How can he say (repeatedly, in appearances and blog posts) that he honestly thought they had just lost the baby right here, but um. . . - when Amanda was bleeding out from three gunshot wounds, one to the back of the head - lying there with her shirt pulled up and underwear off and her top teeth knocked out and scratches and bruises on her face, to the point that Davey's brother wouldn't have recognized her if not for the family in the room ?
and
- How can he say (repeatedly, in appearances and blog posts) that he had no idea anyone had been in his house - with Amanda in the condition she was in, the ladder and a lamp turned over, duct tape and earbuds on the floor near her and a Swisher Sweet package on the counter that DAVEY said did not belong in their residence ?
Asked 100 times and still not answered. You could have a shot at ending our questions and discussion if you could answer these two questions - somehow I think you know the answers to them.
Oh yeah, that fly in the ointment 911 call. . . oh shit, she's still breathing. . . .
911, what is the nature of your emergency? Hi, uh, I'm Davey Blackburn, the lead pastor of Resonate Church and I just walked in from the gym. . . my wife is on the floor, she's unconscious, she has a head wound . . .
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It takes time for these cases to come together. Just watched a Dateline where a white guy hired a black guy from his gym to murder his wife. Husband was far away in Alaska while wife was killed so at first he wasn't a suspect. LE began digging deeper and used cell phone traces to match everyone up. There were burner phones but the suspect forgot to delete a message from husband and LE matched husband's voice to the recording. I think it was 3 years before husband was arrested.
Mark Sievers had what he thought was an airtight alibi too. He was in Connecticut with family when his wife was brutally beaten to death with a hammer. His best friend and an accomplice drove for hours to lie in wait for his wife to arrive home from her flight and attacked her when she entered their house in Florida. The alarm system was disabled and the path was made clear for these two to do the deed.
Davey's planned Israel trip in 2019 is probably not going to happen, at least not with Davey as the "guide and shepherd".
"who were smart enough to drop young and dumb LT off on Amanda's street and strand him there for 30 minutes, hoping he would be arrested on the spot".Anon 2-2-18@10;51AM
Yes, exactly. It never made sense that "someone" was walking down the sidewalk, talking in a LOUD voice, keeping his face hidden. If he had just put a bullet in Amanda, or anyone had for that matter, they wouldn't be walking down the street, oblivious to the cops on their way, neighbors watching, in plain view. No criminal does that and yet we have the decoy in plain site, waiting for arrest and the big show to start.
Last night I listened to a sermon of Daveys, he wasn't in love with his neighbors, he couldn't stand a lot of them, especially the ones to his left and right who wouldn't keep their yard free of weeds. He hated that "average" neighborhood and felt above them all. Yet when that average neighborhood was trying to help le as much as they could, Davey left town. Never put up a flier, never upped the reward money, no desperation plea to find his wife and unborn child's killer, just packed 'er up and hit the road, which many people pointed to and stated no way was he under suspicion as le wouldn't allow him to leave the State if he were. Also, if le had any suspicion whatsoever, would they not confiscate Amanda's journals? Even if they didn't suspect Davey, wouldn't they still (early on) want her journals for potential clues/info? Just thinking out loud.
FFB Said...911, what is the nature of your emergency? Hi, uh, I'm Davey Blackburn, the lead pastor of Resonate Church and I just walked in from the gym. . . my wife is on the floor, she's unconscious, she has a head wound . . . 2-2-18@11:49AM
I'd bet everything I have he prefaces that 911 call with, "I was at the gym". Bet that's why they haven't released it. Is there any reason in the world that would justify not releasing the call?
Yet when that average neighborhood was trying to help le as much as they could, Davey left town. Never put up a flier, never upped the reward money, no desperation plea to find his wife and unborn child's killer, just packed 'er up and hit the road
And Davey didn't even show up to the ceremony honoring that neighorhood. That speaks volumes. From every indication, those neighbors were relentless and tireless (someone in that ceremony described it as "nonstop") trying to gather information and find the killers.
I think one reason Davey left was because he was afraid of questions from neighbors, that he wouldn't have held up to scrutiny and been able to keep his story straight when repeating it over and over in different conversations.
Witness the narrative that was force-fed to everyone from the very beginning - if they stick to the script, nobody goofs up.
And I am sure that never in Davey's wildest dreams did he think that anyone would care enough about Amanda to suffer through transcribing his appearances and blog posts and compiling videos and writing on message boards comparing his statement and actions from different dates. It is SO obvious that he knew what was going to happen and has been riding the wave of the results of his carefully crafted / orchestrated plan ever since.
How unfortunate for him that we care so much.
I'd bet everything I have he prefaces that 911 call with, "I was at the gym". Bet that's why they haven't released it. Is there any reason in the world that would justify not releasing the call?
I wish I had a transcript of Peter's chat room in November 2015 right after this happened - everyone was posting what they thought the 911 call said - everyone said it would start with some variation of "I just walked in from the gym" !
I definitely agree that was what he would've said first. That was the alibi on which he was counting. What a shame that just being seen on camera at the gym doesn't rule up any involvement whatsoever in setting up a hit. It is an insult to the general public that IMPD cleared Davey as fast as they did when everyone knows there's no way they could've looked at everything needed to rule him out (100%, no 150% yet).
But Davey is really hung on this lead pastor thing too - he might've thought "lead pastor" would look like a little innocent white lamb - as in who would suspect a pastor !
Right and the other odd thing is, typically when you read an article about Davey being cleared, it would usually include "the family" being cleared as well. So they not only ruled out Davey that quickly, but any and all family, in that short amount of time. How? That isn't to say I thought any of the family were suspicious or involved, just how could they make that big of a leap, that quick? If they viewed the surveillance and determined it was indeed the kilt gang, as Pirro and a lot of the other experts say, you still can't rule out the husband because of a potential hired hit.
You can run, but not for much longer. Pretty soon this case is going to be ridiculed for the amount of time it has taken to proceed, with such an air tight case there is no valid excuse not to have had these trials wrapped up by now and again, no outrage from any of them, just let's build parks and go to Israel and share our story for MO MONEY$$$$$$$$$. I don't think we have seen the climax of this case yet, I think the best really is yet to come, there's no escaping it, too many people are staying on this case and observing the continual road of evasion.
He's out there, loving life, getting married, honeymoon, traveling to Israel, buying real estate, purchasing cars, etc. Not a word about the murderers in jail and the delay in trial except to say how he forgives them and hopes to establish a relationship with them. They disgust me.
Interesting observations by a former detective about what to look for in a 911 call:
1. A pre-emptive 911 call: Criminals sometimes call police very early to cover their bases. For instance, a man with a missing spouse might call police within a couple hours to say something is wrong.
(Davey waited to call before he was sure Becker had called so cops would associate the neighbor's break-in with his. And he is preemptive about almost everything once he feels that something won't look right to the sleuthing public.)
2, The emotions don't fit: even if what a suspect is saying on the call appears to be true, their tone is a big tip-off to police, Dittrich said. For instance, a calm demeanor while reporting a home invasion could indicate something is amiss because ``most people are hysterical in that kind of situation.''
(Guaranteed he is even-toned with the call and guaranteed he identifies himself as "Pastor DB". Even if he says on the 911 call he thinks it's a miscarriage, he later admits she was struggling for breath and unconscious and was surrounded by a pool of blood. Most spouses would freak out.)
3. Not answering "yes" or "no": an innocent person will usually answer questions with a direct yes or no. Not so for criminals, says Dittrich. When asked "are you involved in this murder?" they are likely to give a long answer like "I swear on my mother's grave and all my children I didn't." This is a way of stalling: even though they tell themselves to lie, they can't quite follow through.
("For us, we have nothing to hide." He never answered "NO, I am most certainly not involved.")
4. Too many details: A criminal usually carefully plans their story in advance, anticipating that they'll eventually speaks with detectives. A 911 call with too many details about the suspect, such as what they did that day or whether they're happy with their significant other, is a red flag because it shows the person put thought into his or her story.
(Time will tell on what DB said but his posts since then have been filled with way too many minute details.)
She ended with this:
"The ones who are acquitted despite ample evidence are "sociopathic'' enough to convince themselves that the lies are reality."
http://www.businessinsider.com/police-detective-reveals-how-she-can-tell-suspects-are-lying-2012-4
Amanda is his product. That is the only mention that comes from DB. Nothing about getting to the truth. Nothing about still being in danger right after the attack.
I gag when I hear the term pastor alongside his name. It's a fine line that I walk in this case, since I do not want to be guilty of suggesting that he is guilty. I have to wait for LE to do that, if it is the case.
The other fine line that I walk is commenting on his incredibly offensive behavior. The Bible says that we are supposed to look for fruit. I also try to give grace, if he really is a pastor called of God, since his behavior could be attributed to a learning curve type thing. If it is a learning curve issue, though, there should still be accountability. I don't see any of that.
I see a speaker who has one focus in mind--numbers (money) and personal success and preeminence, which DB has planned for from the outset and continues to plan for and which seems to continue to be the trajectory of his life.
A pastor lays his life down for the sheep. A hireling uses the sheep and flees in times of trouble.
I am still looking for good fruit. I see: annoyance, bullying, shaming, using people, merchandising people, selfishness, among many other things. I also see the absence of: love, compassion, generosity, selflessness (among many) and the absence of glorifying God by putting God's will and God's desires first. The sheep are God's inheritance. How is DB treating them? I see the absence of the fear of the Lord when it comes to how he treats the sheep, whether at home or at large.
When he talks about sharing the teaching with 'this guy', I see distancing and coldness--surely, you don't call your father-in-law 'this guy' and respect him at the same time. But, 'this guy' is the same man that DB shamed in front of the whole congregation when he made fun of 'this guy's' sheep, right there in front of the whole congregation. How mortifying. 'This guy' had nowhere to run.
I think that my tolerance has played out to the full. I give DB over to the Lord. I pray that the truth will come out, whatever that truth is.
I am disgusted with his self-seeking self-promotion and the *constant*, unending coming together, or seeming orchestration of all of the events. If it is accidental then I wonder why God has suddenly turned into a Respecter of persons, which He has not.
I would have liked to have seen a public apology for his leaving the door unlocked. I would have liked to have heard an explanation of why he thought doing so would 'teach Amanda a lesson' for losing her keys. (and so much more)
His callous indifference has wearied my soul.
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Referring to a missing person in past-tense: Most people hold out hope that their missing loved one will be found alive. Referring to a person in past tense, saying "I really loved her" or "he and I were happily married,'' is incriminating, Dittrich said.
^ From the link ^
Like Ashley and Derek Barrett referring to Amanda in the past tense the night of the incident (I refuse to call it a burglary)
Like Davey in his written statement released almost immediately saying "my wife WAS such a gracious, loving woman of God".
Too soon, guys. Far too soon. Still hoping and still believing that the best is yet to come - right from the very start, repeated over and over.
Flightfulbird,
What does all your rambling about Davey have to do with falsely accusing Amber? You're trying to deflect because you're one of the butt-licking lemmings who acted like bobcat's "SA" about Amber was correct. Sounds like you're the one who can't take the heat.
Care to admit you were wrong about Amber? Probably not, because you're even more spineless than bobcat.
I'm willing to bet money that the ME will testify during the trial how long before she arrived at the hospital the gunshot wounds occurred, and I'm willing to bet it won't be from the day before. Even then, you won't be able to admit you were wrong about Amber. Pathetic.
Probably not from the night before, Anon at 3:22 PM, but perhaps before 6:11am when someone was running late to the gym?
I'm willing to be the defense will counter the ME with their ME and we will have differing expert opinions on the time Amanda was shot.
Kate, you really think the defense will try to show that Amanda was shot the day before when she was with Amber? Remember you said that when you get laughed at later.
And, flightfulbird, if you (or anyone else here) REALLY can't understand why someone NOT connected to this case would be so bothered by bobcat's disgusting accusations against Amber, there's something deeply wrong with you.
Davey, Amber, and Amanda's cell pings from 11/9/15 are a very sensitive subject. Why? What will the records show?
No, I don't think Amanda was shot the day before, but as others have said, prior to 6:11 am? And I don't think Amanda's family was involved at all, but I do think Amanda's family is heartless and shame on Amber for being such a "close" sister, yet disrespecting Amanda after death. I had a lot of hope for Amber and Amanda's friends early on, but that proved to be disappointing as well. Still, it's not too late.
I just wanted to remind others that the ME will be countered.
Not just the cell pings but whenever evidence that contradicts LE's narrative is being discussed, someone tries to derail the discussion and pick fights with individual posters. Pretty transparent. Been happening a lot latery. Didn't happen when someone was in Israel. Hmmm
Will those records contradict Amber's statements about Amanda's activities around town on 11/9/15?
Some pointed questions about Amanda's capabilities and appearance (was she "beautiful"?) throughout the day on 11/9/15 might be telling. How will Mamaw, Poppy, Amber, Davey, and Audrey respond? Why did Amanda wait until late in the day to send Elizabeth a Happy Birthday text?
Anon @ 4:17. The ranting has definitely stepped up since everyone got back from Israel.
Even now, the anonymous cannot answer or chooses not to answer (why not answer?) the two questions I asked above.
Sticks and stones....do your worst, say whatever.
For us, we don’t care what you say about us, it’s not going to quiet us.
It might and probably will make us even more relentless in pursuit of the truth.
Bobcat’s thoughts about Amber’s involvement is extremely sensitive to you. There is a poster on this board named Hey Jude - who at one point and maybe still does not believe Amber was involved in any way - she has said as much - yet she does not feel the need to aggressively and insultingly defend Amber the way you do.
Your words and tone reveal much.
Whether Amber was involved or not (although how amazing that in her flowery description of the day she walked into the house ONLY three days after Amanda’s “life had been taken”, she had the presence of mind to notice and describe two and a half pieces of candy corn in the bowl -and Amanda’s autumn candle was still sitting on the counter.
But the Christmas tree was up in all its splendor and glory. And I will never believe the autumn candle was left out on the if Amanda had already decorated for Christmas - I won’t.
Answer the questions about DAVEY, anon. Focus. Please answer. Remove Amber completely from the country -place her in Honolulu or France or Australia on Monday the 9th- and you still have a lying piece of shit of a husband who cannot keep his stories straight about what he honestly saw and thought that morning. And nobody else can or will answer for him. And he stammers and stutters the whole time he’s telling it.
Bring on the 911 call and end this thing. Yes yes there wasn’t as much time during the Israel trip to rant and rave and call people ignorant.
Anon@ 2:18, loved your post. It speaks to my confusion as to why no one in CD ' S life sees through him, or stands up to him. I am also floored by the way DB has influenced and lead everyone to believe God answered his prayers, and it was a good thing. I don't know why even Amanda's family fell for it. Deep grief? I don't see how he has gotten this far and continues to deceive so easily. Can't help but wonder what Derrick and Ashley think now that they aren't living with him. I can believe many are fooled by him, but I can't believe they don't have doubts about what he does and says. I also believe the day CD said he forgave the perps, that he was already seeing KM. And the earliest I've seen him say that was Feb. 2016. So IMO he had met her much earlier than he says, and Meg probably has known all along. In one of the blog posts, I think it was the one he wrote about asking KM to marry him, someone commented about how soon it was, and Meg answered her. Just thought it interesting.
https://daveyblackburn.com/blog/she-said-yes#comments-outer-wrapper
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My only comment is how is Amanda's family coping with this? The reason I ask is that I'm in the exact same position. My sister died 5-25-17 and her husband is starting to be interested in someone we know. I'm so confused and I feel a sense of disloyalty to my sister. It's so hard!
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Hey Renee! This is a GREAT question! Davey and Phil talk a little bit about it on the Nothing is Wasted Podcast (episode 2- I believe) and I think the Byars outlook on your question is such a great demonstration of the gospel and what it means to be adopted into God’s family! They’ve walked through this season with unbelievable grace and joy - I’m hoping that Davey and all the Byars will write more/speak about this more in the coming months/years!
Hmmm, I hope this is true.
http://www.singlemind.net/?p=9381
From some people I know who are following this closely, the police are still investigating. They are just keeping things close to the vest.
If he masterminded this, then sooner or later, it is going to catch up to him.
Sooner or later, someone is going to spill the beans.
Thank you, Bobcat, for the reference to DBs own wording and leaving a link as proof.
I wrote:
"If memory serves me correctly, that ringleader would be Diano Gordon"
From Anon @ 10:51:
"He's definitely not the ringleader but he was in charge of JW (and LT for a brief period) that morning. DG was taking orders, which is why he was careful to 1) not be the driver, 2) not be the guy that used the ATM cards, 3) not to go inside Jacola's or Amanda's and 4) to be the first to rat out LT to the cops.
DG's orders came from Alonzo Bull and others who were smart enough to drop young and dumb LT off on Amanda's street and strand him there for 30 minutes, hoping he would be arrested on the spot. That didn't happen and surveillance video led LE to the Sebring, which led LE to JW and DG. The chain is still being unraveled and will be before LT's trial. LT's defense attorney has a sworn duty to represent him to the fullest and he is aware of the timeline and evidence inconsistencies as well as Davey's life insurance policy windfall. Hell, even Donae Mitchell told LE that the gun used in the killing was left at her apartment by "either JW or DG" and NOT LT."
First, allow me to mention that I truly appreciate not being treated as an interloper simply because I require refreshers on the insidious murder of Amanda. Anon @ 10:51, please know that your explanation did not fall on deaf ears and it is greatly appreciated knowledge to glean.
I shall not barrage the topic with further questions until I have the time and ability to proceed with my own research. It is preferred, in murder investigations, to perform my diligence rather than expect data handed on a silver platter.
Also, know I am in it for Justice for Amanda. I do not need to make friends as I have plenty. Typically, my interest in delving into murder investigations is the psychology behind the perpetrators intentions. What makes people kill others and by what methods? At the same time, beyond my own control, I bond with the victim. In this case, it includes Amanda and Weston. All others are suspect until I can rationally eliminate them.
I'm quite familiar with Dr. Teresa Sievers murder at the hands of her husband's best friend and his co-conspirator, who enjoyed being nicknamed "The Hammer", long before he murdered Dr. Sievers by crushing her skull some 28 times, I believe it was. I managed to decipher Mark's codes in his uncanny method of texting and marking his calendar. There is little doubt that Mark intended to sale his wife's practice and had already sought out the buyer, who owns a purple truck, for her business, mere months before she was killed.
Coincidences are considered to be clues. Hence, in a murder investigation, there are no coincidences, only clues. Discerning those clues and moving the pieces until they fit nicely within a package is the goal for a successful prosecution. Not all evidence should be given the same weight as there are almost always items of evidence that will not make sense.
Once more, I'll compliment the mighty efforts presented by the astute thinkers on this forum that align with those of my own. It is pleasing to learn new things even when they are unpleasant to acknowledge. It is obvious, that the majority of us, see DB for who he is when unmasked. That is, DB is a being with a hedonistic lifestyle cobbled under the unearned and unworthy title of Pastor. He is a heretic who took full advantage of a sweet, kind, talented, young mother and turned her into dust. Let the chips fall where they may.
Flightfulbird,
Why would I "remove Amber from the country"? The false accusations against AMBER are precisely what I'm addressing. Can you not grasp that? I'm not talking about Davey, do why do you demand I answer questions about Davey when I'm talking about Amber? Are you really that dense?
Since I'm talking about AMBER, and YOU chose to respond to ME, why don't YOU answer MY question about who you think is right about AMBER ... Peter or Bobcat?
Prediction: flightful responds with more rambling about Davey because she doesn't have the balls to answer my question.
Saw this comnent on a link that was postef above. Davey directly addressed it in the "She said yes" blog. He was obviousky trying to be on the DL with Kristi, dedpite the thumbs up from the prosecutor.
"Also – I didn’t put it together until I saw a photo of her daughter…but I definitely interacted with them at Chick-Fil-A a couple of months ago.
He put his son in the play area while he sat on his phone in a booth nearby. She showed up – put her daughter in the play area, also.
The little girl was a doll. Both kids were adorable and I sat in the play area chatting with them while my daughter played.
However…Kristi and Davey DID NOT look happy."
Two things about Amber. Why was she in Indianapolis in the first place? Did Amanda call her and ask her to come? It was strange that she cut short a bucket list trip to Yosemite to fly to winteryIndianapolis. It sounds weird but I thought Amanda or Amber might have have some kind of premonition. (My sister and I are extremely close and once, when I was very ill, she showed up at my door like magic. She didn't ring beforehand and she looked as surprised as I was to find herself there.)
When the Byars went on stage with Davey, Phil said "we were all in California" when it happened. Amber was sitting there too, but nobody corrected him.
The other thing that is a bit strange is that when crazy Davey talks about the Monday morning with things swirling in is head and having to meet with this person and pushing the ball forward etc etc he doesn't mention Amber. I thought that was strange. In the context of describing the morning before Amanda's murder, he doesn't mention that she was meeting with her sister, and Weston, his cousins, in a few hours.
It was unexpected. Bear In mind that he was describing Amandas movements on the morning before her murder, so the omission of Amber, in his narrative is odd.
Also, if Amber and Amanda went places publicly (Starbucks, shopping) why, on earth does their mother say that Trader Joes was Amanda's last public appearance? Such a weird thing to say.
There are definitely questions about Amber. My main one is, what was she doing in Indianapolis?
In the "How to hug a vampire week - hard to love - 6/22/14
Davey gloats and exclaims he knocked Amanda up, when speaking of her pregnancy. He also tells a story about how helpless Amanda came to him and said her storage was full on her phone. Davey proceeds to go through her phone and says the bulk of it is text messages and basically how silly those messages are. He describes how he deletes them. (I envision a completely different story than what Davey describes, more like he grabbed her phone and nosied in).
Amanda had absolutely zero privacy. He reminds me so much of Scott Peterson.
It's a 14 hour flight, btw.
Kate said (as have others). He reminds me so much of ScottPeterson.
Me too.
Davey is a megalomaniac. Scott was just an egomaniac.
Per Peter, Amber's language does not indicate guilty knowledge or involvement.
The diligent crew here needs to own up to that.
All the Davey stuff rings true.
Keep on keepin' on.
*p.s You're right about the posting of anti-stuff coming back after the Israel trip. I was wondering where Brenda, Meg or whoever, was. Veddy Interestink.
Also, Amber's note 2 days after Amanda was murdered was heartbreaking and I mean heartbreaking for Amanda. In the note, she says "I" approximately 25 times. 25 times! She says "Amanda" 3 times.
This: She was stronger than she had ever been. She rose up in that moment and protected the precious gift she brought into this world only a year before. And I sat by her bed in complete and total awe of what my sweet sister endured. Through the distress and fear, she conquered. She knew it wouldn't be easy but that it would be worth it all. And oh the joy on her face on November 11 at 7:55 am when she was able to walk into the arms of Jesus, holding her precious little Evie Grace in her arms. This was the MOST AMAZING day of her life. https://www.christianpost.com/news/the-heartache-of-amanda-blackburns-sister-i-talked-to-her-yesterday-in-heaven-150469/
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That's messed up, so utterly and completely messed up. If you look at the hand pic, you can see Amanda's hand is swelled by comparison to Amber's. How does a very close sister, who shared graduations and weddings together, walk into a hospital room and describe her beaten and shot sister as looking "sweet". And how do you have joy on your face or such joy that it appears clear to Amber. How do you describe it as the MOST AMAZING day of her life, when Weston lost his Mom and Evie didn't even get a chance. The hell is wrong with these people? Seriously, is there any valid justification for this load of crap?
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