Thursday, April 9, 2015

Wesley Hadsell: Statement Analysis; AJ's Remains May Be Found

Police have their reasons why they are not rushing to give the family information.

There is a link to the jail house interview below the news report.  As I am listening to this now, I am posting and updating analysis.

"Honest to God, I didn't have anything to do with my daughter's disappearance."  Note that divinity within a statement is often found in deception.  This was towards the end of the interview.

The step father said police accused him of sexual interest in AJ, going back to when she was a 12 or 13 year old child:  he does not deny this but only reports it.

Regarding the step father, Wesley Hadsell:

"I don't know where she's at..." is not a reliable denial.  The jail house interview was not reliable and he did not say, "I didn't cause her disappearance.  I am telling the truth."  He did not say, "I didn't cause AJ's disappearance."

More analysis after the news report, below, on the original jailhouse interview.


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From his jail house video, my notes follow the video.





 I posted the jailhouse video to allow others for analysis. In listening to it, he avoided issuing a reliable denial and often changed the topic, moving away from sensitive areas.  Here are some of my notes:

We look for someone to say, "I didn't cause AJ's disappearance. I don't know what happened to her.  I am telling you the truth."

He does not.

He reports that police said some "pretty messed up things" and then goes on to give the allegations of police, but does not deny them, including being attracted to AJ.

"Everyone who knows me, I would pray they know better than that" rather than deny it to be true.

"They asked me where she was at."  He does not deny it.  When one is unable or unwilling to say so, we cannot say it for him.  This may cause some to believe he knows her location.  Where she is "at" and "where she is" may be two very different things to him.

"Yes sir, I can say it with 100% confidence" and "I was speaking of her in past tense" and "I just look at things they saying..."

The interviewer asked leading questions, perhaps out of frustration of the rambling like answers that seek to move the topics off from AJ.

A significant point is that he said he was accused of, 5 year ago, marrying his wife to get to AJ, who would have been about 13 years old at the time.  When this was raised, it would be the time for him to say "I was not attracted to AJ."

"They were not happy when I said I had nothing to tell" is not to say he had no information for them.

He reported that the police were consistently saying they were looking for a body, yet he does not bring himself to condemn them for it.  He seemed like he wanted to sound like he was condemning or disapproving of them, but does not choose words in order to communicate this.

Deceptive people are counting on others to interpret their words, rather than listen to the words chosen.  We listen to the actual words chosen, even in jest, sarcasm, or accompanied by any emotions.  The words themselves, are important for us to understand that in less than a micro second, the brain chose the words used.

He explains that since they, the police, don't share information with him, he does not share information with them, showing no regard for AJ's wellbeing.  He is deceptive about his activities, and uses both distancing and minimizing language regarding his own past.

He blames police.  He does not seek to help police.

He also sets up a scenario in which "those kids", AJ's friends, would give up information about him, to police.  "I've never threatened anybody" yet he told police he would "handle it his own way" and that there is a house "may or may not have been broken into" and "verified information that evidence was there..."

Did you break into a house?

They say I did.

Avoidance of the question, Number 1.

Did you break into a house?

It is questionable the information they put out.

Avoidance number 2.  This indicates the question, itself, was sensitive.

Did you break into a house that you believe had evidence?


yes, I did


Did you plant evidence?

No, sir, I didn't.  


We had a lot of information, he said.  "We" not, "I"

Did you punch a dog?

Maybe

Did you punch a dog?

Yes.  He was a big dog.

Did you find anything?

"Found my daughters jacket, rolled up, behind a cushion."

Note the dropped pronoun.  In yes or no questions, he denied planting it there; another, "no, sir" response.

Remember, yes or no questions do not cause the type of internal stress that open statement deception does.

Even about "brining the evidence to light" he employs passivity.

"I basically wanted to take care of it myself" is likely a truthful statement.

How long were you in the house?

18, maybe 19 minutes.

"Some people are going to say I planted evidence."  

This may be embedded, as he does not attribute these words to any specific person, only "people" in general.

"We honest to God felt that the cops weren't doing anything."

The interview contains deception.  His use of "we" comes in times of sensitivity and may indicate a desire to share guilt.

"We called the police..." uses the pronoun "we" when he then said that someone else called police.

He wants to be seen as a crusader, fighting for his daughter, against corrupt police who just are not doing their job, yet he is not truthful.

"Our hearts dropped" is to avoid his own emotion.

"I called him, I called him, I called him" three times when asked if he had called the detective "right away" after finding "evidence."

Even with all the time to say, over and over, to issue a simple reliable denial, he does not.  He speaks in a cryptic manner, as if he cannot give out information due to the integrity of the case.  Police likely know how he attempted to not only obstruct justice, but has sought to cast doubt on others, including AJ's friends.

Regarding what he would like to do:

"Get a gun.  Discharge a gun.  End of story. That's what I thought.  Thats what I wanted to do.  That's what I felt like doing. "

This may have been presented 'as if' it was directed to the guilty party, but his words do not say such. It is likely suicide talk.  To remove doubt, he then said;

"I'd give up my life for my daughter."


"Police think that I hurt her.  They can say what they want, they can badger all they want.  "

"I didn't hurt my daughter.  I don't know where she's at. "  

They offered no hope.  They wanted to know where she's at.  I shut down.  I had no emotion.  I was paralyzed. :

Please note that when one kills, one did not "hurt"; which is minimizing language.

If he did not kill her, he has impeded the investigation and police should seek to learn if he molested her.  

28 comments:

Bonnie Blue said...

Well, it is likely that he was attracted to AJ and he has done the worst case scenario here. I hope we do not find out that we have another Billie Dunn on our hands and that she was not only aware of the attraction, but somehow involved.

I will be waiting for more of this story to unfold and hopefully, future analysis Peter =)

Bonnie Blue said...

^^^ sorry, "she", as in AJ's Mother.

Anonymous said...

It's odd that the stepfather, when questioned about how long he was in the young man's house, chose "18" or "19" minutes. That's unexpected. An overwhelming majority of people judge time in 5-10-15-20 minute increments, due to the way we learn to tell time as children. When we are uncertain how long we've been somewhere, as one would be when breaking into someone's home, we subconsciously fall back on that. Oddly enough, A.J. is 18,heading to 19.

BostonLady said...

I just watched, but really, listened more to the interview. Rather than watch the step father's mannerisms, his twitching, scratching, weird facial expressions, I listened with my eyes closed after about 5 mins. Wow, he was leaking everywhere. I heard him leak embedded confessions a few times. I should have written down what I was hearing. Perhaps tomorrow when I have more energy I will.

One statement that gave me chills was when he was talking about finding the step daughter and the person interviewing asked if he knew where she was... he said "the truth will be uncovered". Uncovered? Is he saying she is dead, covered up? Buried? That was not expected. I would have expected him to say "I don't know.. I have no idea..I wish I knew" But uncovered?

LE knows he has been lying to them. He told the person interviewing him for this video that LE suspects him because he was speaking in past tense.

It's 28 minutes full of leaks.

Anonymous said...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/remains-found-search-missing-virginia-teen/story?id=30186636

Anonymous said...

His sister has come out to say she is no longer sure he wasn't involved. After everything has come out she doesn't know what to think anymore. The family knows more than they are all saying. There is a reason they locked him up when they did and made sure he was denied bail. They didn't have her body to prove anything but had enough to decide it was him.

Jen Ow said...

Wesley Hadsell jail house interview with Chelsea Hoffman: (I found this transcription today while reading about the human remains being found. I thought I may have been from today, as WH really doesn't mention AJ very much, he talks about his other kids, and his relationship with his wife, and that his attorneys have told him to stop speaking publically...however, it looks to be prior to today's discovery. Some very strange content!)

CH: *coughs*

WH: Hey, Chelsea, how are you doing?

CH: Hey Wesley. I’m doing okay, umm, I’m sure you’re probably not doing that well.

WH: You what, now?

CH: I’m pretty sure you’re not doing that well. How are you?

WH: *sighs* I’m al-.... my faith is strong and my will is everlasting, so that’s the best a man can be right now given the light of the situation. I do want to apologize to you for an indiscrepancy [sic] I told you before. I can’t really speak speak on it, and understand why I may have not have told you before. Um, but please understand that it’s out there. I have spoke the words out of my mouth on a news show, um, didn’t deny anything,really. But anyonethat came to my house and had a face and a kind word for my daughter knew the truth that I really didn’t put out there, because I figured that people who loved my daughter would understand.

CH: Uh huh.

WH: My heart just... my mind just.. things happened that I couldn't control. As easy as, uh... to think the actions of… uh, you know... that I normally do. My faith was put in the wrong place. I see now. But - regrets? No. Because, to me, my daughter is my world, my life. You know, I have five children and uh, still missing one. I’m missing all of them right now.*earnest chuckle* Especially my little 3-year-old. I’m not sure how much you know the situation of what’s going on with social media right now, either, so…

CH: No, I don’t. I don’t know much of what’s going on. (lol) But, you know, I try to tell other people not to speculate too much, either, because we really don’t know the facts.

WH: Exactly. I am under advisement from my attorney now to no longer speak aboutanything revolving this whole case/situation, because if you do not speak a word, then they can’t twist it and turn it. As far as that goes, you know...

CH: Absolutely.

WH: And I do trust this lady. This lady here, she’s smart, she’s witty - she’s called me the female version of my mother.

CH: *laughs*

WH: *laughs*

CH: *laughs*


Cont....

Jen Ow said...

Cont...

WH: I told her today on my support page, Cecelia Johnson. I touched her five years ago and she told me that you shouldn’t go around touching women. And, uh, that was a [unintelligible] joke, and I was like “Oh my God.” So she made me laugh two times in one day…

CH: Well, thats good.

WH: So that is... more than anything is, to laugh right now, that is a blessing. To have any kind of emotion other than anger… I tell people I don’t see a reason to be angry with God, and yes, I stole that off A Walk to Remember.

CH: Hah.

WH: That is one of my favorite all-time movies. Yes ma’am. I’m just a man who loves his kids and will do anything for his family. I really, I.. I want the truth to come out. I want them to find answers because those answers, that truth, it sets me free as well. Maybe then everyone can [unintelligible] where they need to be for my family, and for my… I don’t need it.

CH: Right.

WH: I don’t need it to make me feel better. I know who I am and I know where I’ve been. I just don’t know where I’m going anymore. *chuckles* Um, if you can respect that… you know?

CH: Well, I do.

WH: So.. what did you say, now?

CH: I can respect that. Is it okay with you if I use any of this conversation publicly?

WH: (eagerly) Yes, ma’am.

CH: Okay, good.

WH: Just, please, I’m trying to be as candid as possible with an issue you have with me, you know what I’m saying?

CH: Right right.

WH: Because my phone calls are recorded on both ends, with where I’m at, so I just want to apologize for that mistrust maybe you place in me but, I mean, I think in time you can appreciate the bigger picture. Me being here - I do nothing for my daughter anymore. You know? As far as helping.. or hurting. However people say it. You know?

CH: I understand.

*they talk over each other here, just basic chatter*

CH: Well I’m sure you know that I put some money on your books to use for your phone.

WH: Yes ma’am, I greatly appreciate that. That is, in a way, it is a blessing because if I talk to you... my family situation right now... you know, I can't tell you everything on the record.

CH: I understand.

Jen Ow said...

Cont...

WH: My personal life has been destroyed, just so you know. I feel that my marriage is shot. my mom and my wife can't get along, they don't see eye to eye - they probably hate each other. That’s the best word to put it. And it’s not even that it’s the overall emotion, it’s the worry. My mom has lost a granddaughter. Now, she's lost a son temporarily. My wife has lost a daughter, she has lost a husband, um, there’s so much stuff up in the air. Um, social media has been somewhat kind but somewhat vicious. She’s being attacked right now on social media for doing things.

CH: Right.

WH: People are just *sighs* people are just, you know, if you don’t give everybody the answer they want or they expect then they turn. I just wish everyone would realize that AJ is the sole focal point, and I wish that my name wasn’t “Wesley Hadsell.” I wish my name was nothing because all I care about is my daughter coming home and I pray she’s safe and, uh, everybody knows I'm in jail...

CH: Right.

WH: I'm safe, I'm not hungry, I'm not cold or hot you know? I'm just miserable. People can relate to being miserable, but the other emotions: the fear, the dread, the longing, the want-to-know… that’s the part that I can’t deal with.*deep breath* The prayers, the support the kind words, *voice cracking* that takes a father a lot more farther than guilt and accusations.

CH: Right.

WH: So, it’s not easy... but… in here you have to wear a mask or they'll tear you apart, but I'm gonna tell you one thing: everybody in here, they respect me. They would have done the same thing. Nothing but support here. I haven't met one person who wants to chop me up and do evil things to me. *chuckles*

CH: I was gonna ask you that, if you were under any threats or anything while behind bars. Because this is kinda a high profile case - it’s gotten national attention.

WH: Yes ma’am it has, and the people here… they, they are nothing but supporters here, and that’s for everything to do with this whole facility. Um, I have not met an unkind word yet. People… my background speaks for itself.

CH: Right.

Jen Ow said...

Cont...

WH: I’ve made mistakes, but, you know it doesn't matter if I did or did not give my life to the Lord. People change for their own reasons. Mine was more to the Lord. May 26th, 2006, I gave my life to the Lord. And that was the final time. Let me tell you, I’ve offered my life and everything up to the Lord many times. [I’m] not perfect. He didn't tell me anything this time. He didn't help me. He didn't show me anything. I think he wanted to see actions, not words That’s what I believe. And, uh, I got my answers.

It’s uncanny because May 27th, 1993 I lost my best friend: Timothy [unintelligible] - he died in my arms. He was doing pull ups and we were spotting him and, uh, he fell off the bar…. the third time he passed out by doing different stuff that year, and he did not come back around. We lost him. I named my son after him because that was a pact we made when we were kids. I’m a man of my word. Integrity: You can tarnish it, but you can't destroy it. Not when you're true with everything... but uh, I tell you that because May 26th, 2011 I was more worried about my daughter being born on May 27th. And uh, she was born on May 26th, 2011 *voice cracking* and I think the Lord gave me my answer, you know?

CH: She’s a beautiful little girl, by the way.

WH: She’s awesome.

CH: She’s adorable.

WH: She is my fat kid - that’s what she calls herself. She used to climb in my lap and she would say: “Here comes your child!” and that’s her, that’s all her personality. Then one day she said “Here comes your fat kid!” and she looked at me and she’s like, and I'm her fat daddy. I tell you, you know, I'm a man but I'm a father at the end of the day no matter … you’ll see, you’ll see in the future here. people are posting about me, and I don't do that to take away from my daughter, AJ, I do that because I need faith. I need my friends to come together and to remind me that I'm this guy that did all this stuff for people and, um, that they still got my back… because I promised myself I wouldn’t be here in this bed again talking to something, anyone, on the phone. I would never lose control of my life again, and I broke that promise to myself, *voice cracking* even though it’s for my family. It’s still hard to break promises regardless of what face you attach to it, you know?

CH: Right.

WH: A promise is a promise and I don't break em lightly. I don’t… my word to myself... the first time I’ve ever broken my word. “My word was my bond,” that’s what we say. And I have broken my word to myself for the first time *crying* and it hurts but I would do it every day over and over for my kids. It hurts so bad that I can't even call my wife from jail. To hear the pain in her voice and the emotion and everything that’s going on with her, and I feel like I let my family down more so because I'm here so yes it’s..

I'm in prison, not jail, but I'm trying to become free on the inside again. That’s my goal. *voice breaking* and um kind words from people, like Cecelia Johnson... I touched her, not physically, but I met her on my bus ride back from Victorville, CA in 2010... February 17th. She was the first girl I talked to. Women scared me because of the accusations with my ex-wife… women scared me to death, and I apparently said something to her that made a connection with her and she reached out and posted on my page. I hadn't talked to that woman in a long time *laughs* It’s amazing how she found me in my time of need to touch me. *crying*

Jen Ow said...

Cont...

CH: Well there’s a lot of people out there that do actually support you. There’s a Facebook page and everything of people rallying behind you. (are you serious? that’s what he was JUST talking about)

WH: Yes and I know some people think it’s taking away from AJ, but understand that I want to cross-reference that with their page. But, um, you know, people have to do things that they’re willing to do, so...

CH: Well *slurring words* (this is just awful, I’m paraphrasing it) AJ’s missing and that’s important but so many other lives are being affected, and some people think you've done something to her and others think you’re innocent.

WH: Yes, yes - people need to understand, that don't even know me, but have supported me, people need to see things about who I am, um, I'm sure when that page gets wind enough to the right people you'll see stories that will melt your heart because you're not gonna see people jump on there and say that Wesley Hadsell was a liar, a backstabber, a cheat.. I'm a man, I'm a man’s man. I shake hands, I say yes sir, yes ma’am. Thats how I was raised, and I give people respect whether older or younger than me, and uh, that’s what my dad wanted. That’s what my dad taught me to be. I can only be what my dad, you know, raised me to be because he’s not here anymore... and that was the hardest time of my life -- *voice cracking*

Recording: YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE REMAINING!!!!

WH: I can call you back, too, if you’d like.

CH: Actually can you call back maybe tomorrow around the same time?

WH: Yes ma’am, yes ma’am I can try. I can get ahold of you through the channels like I did before - I have the right number now

CH: Yeah, I was told you wrote down the wrong number at first.

WH: Yes ma’am, but I don’t have a problem speaking to you. We have to keep this stuff off the table, but if you want people to know me, know my daughter, know our life... I have no problem putting a backstory to this... but this is about my daughter, for real, it is, so I do appreciate everything you've done. You understand? I do, Chelsea, I appreciate it.

CH (with the conviction of a dramatic actress in a crime movie): I want to believe that you’re being falsely accused, Wesley, so I’m here to help.

WH: I understand. just have faith, in time we’ll find all the answers we need you know? Okay?

Recording: THANK YOU FOR USING GTL


Jen Ow said...

(I tried to take out the commentary that the original transcriber included, but I missed a few things.)

As I said, when I first read this this morning, I thought the interview was post discovery of the remains, because Hadsell says:

"My mom has lost her granddaughter"...and, "My wife has lost her daughter".

However, WS then goes back to saying he has hope that AJ will come home! He also consistently refers to her in past tense, including saying "the people who LOVED my daughter", etc.

He unexpectedly states that he 'Especially misses his 3 yo', which I find strange as AJ is the one missing. He knows his 3 yo is safe at home, and it's strange for him to express that he is misses the younger girl, over AJ.

Overall, he seems to be congratulating himself. He claims hasn't met an unkind word in jail, and he is respected in there. He asserts that as soon as people 'get wind' of his FB support page, it will be overflowing with glowing and wonderful stories about him. (Heavy emphasis on the STORY part, I assume?)

It's one of the most bizarre interviews from the parent of a 'missing' child I have ever seen! He's talking about his personal life in ruins, his jail house rep, and his amazing integrity, despite the reality that he is nothing more than a criminal! He is either delusional, or a master manipulator who actually thinks people are buying it?

elf said...

My mom has lost a granddaughter. My wife has lost a daughter.
He killed AJ.

Jen Ow said...

I had to revisit this line! Does anyone know the date of this phone interview? It appears to be before the discovery of remains today, but I would love to know the actual date. Thanks in advance!

"My mom has lost a granddaughter. Now, she's lost a son temporarily. My wife has lost a daughter, she has lost a husband, um, there’s so much stuff up in the air."

He differentiates between the loss of AJ, (to her Grandmother/Mother...he excludes himself), and the TEMPORARY loss of a son to his mother. This suggests that the loss of AJ is NOT temporary, although he continues to state that he hopes she comes home later in the interview.


Jen Ow said...

Exactly elf! He excludes himself from the loss, and labels it differently than his mother's 'temporary' loss of him!

tania cadogan said...

“Here comes your child!” and that’s her, that’s all her personality. Then one day she said “Here comes your fat kid!” and she looked at me and she’s like, and I'm her fat daddy.

This is disturbing to me.
He doesn't say how old she is at that moment in time.
I don't know of any kid referring to to themselves as a child as in here comes your child.
Child is often used in relation to sexual abuse and would require further questioning as to what the word child means to the subject and where it changes ie child to kid.
Is the change waranted?

We have to keep this stuff off the table, but if you want people to know me, know my daughter, know our life... I have no problem putting a backstory to this
Order is important and here he puts himself first, his priority is him not his missing daughter.
Notice also he refers to OUR life.
If i didn't know the relationship between them i would think of them as a couple.

Is this perhaps how he saw AJ?
not as his daughter, rather as his girlfriend or wife?
Does this explain his previous comment where he referred to someone that they knew had "loved" and "obsessed" over her.

Did she rebuff him and he killed her?
If he couldn't have her, no one could?

His language and behavior is throwing up all sorts of red flags. this makes me wonder if perhaps by breaking and entering the house and 'finding' her jacket, any forensic evidence that could incriminate him can be explained away as contamination from when he found it?

The same goes for her credit cards.
Anything incriminating is because he found the cards and picked them up not knowing what they were or who they belonged to or his DNA was placed there by whoever found the cards and cross contamination.

I agree the time he gave 18 or 19 mins is very exact when most would say about x number of mins usually rounded up or down such as quarter of an hour, half an hour give or take a few minutes or maybe in increments of 5 mins.

18 and 19 have a meaning to him,the numbers are on his mind, unless he was clock watching whilst he was rummaging times would be vague.

I would ask how did he find the jacket if it was rolled up in the sofa?
Where did he search in the house?
What did he touch?
Which room did he search first?
Why that room?
What made him check the sofa?

It is as if he is trying to preempt anything that could be found incriminating him, controlling where where is being sear5ched such as you don't need to search there i already checked etc.

WH: My heart just... my mind just.. things happened that I couldn't control.
Is tthis an embedded confession?
He self edits twice making this especially sensitive.
His heart comes first, often linked to the emotions.
His mind is the logical side.

Did he molest her?
Did he regard her as a lover rather than his daughter?
This would fit in with the "loved and obsessed" comment he made.

His mind just what?
Snapped?
She rebuffed his advances?
She said no and was going to tell?
He lost his temper?
He was jealous?

Cecelia Johnson... I touched her, not physically,
Why did he need to add not physically?
is this because he has been accused on inappropriate behavior previously?
It is sensitive to him in that he has to specify it wasn't physical.
I also noted he refers to her as a GIRL first in relation to talking and then tells us he is scared of WOMEN because of accusation made by his ex wife.
Is the change in language warranted by a change in reality?
He didn't touch Cecelia and she is a girl because she talked to him.
Does this imply that when he touches a female they become women and scary to him?

I wonder if he was attracted to AJ?
Perhaps he viewed her as a girl (safe and non threatening) rather than a woman (unsafe and threatening)
Did he think perhaps she would aceede to his demands?
She would be a good girl?
She would comply?

When she didn't she then became a woman and a threat to him?

tania cadogan said...

addendum

In all of his statement he doesn't appeal to the 'abductor' to release her or talk to AJ.
it is all about him, how he feels, how he is coping, how he is respected,
he says he has had no threats nor unkind words as his background speaks for itself.
This would lead me to ask about his background.
What is in his background that would cause inmates to be nice, to respect him?
Is it perhaps he has a history of violence?
Do they believe he is a killer?

I’m missing all of them right now.*earnest chuckle* Especially my little 3-year-old.
This bothers me no end.
He chuckles and talks about missing his little 3 yr old.
Gien what he is suspected of i would wonder if he has been inappropriate with the child?

Perhaps it is just me being overly cynical and suspicious and seeing something that isn't there.

Thanks Jen Ow for posting the transcript xx

Sus said...

Jen,
The interview you posted was done a day or two before the remains were found.

I note again...to Wesley Hadsell it's all about how he is seen. He has to "tell the story" so others will see him as he wants, not as he is. He ran the investigation so as to control it, or lead it his way. Even from prison, he's still trying to throw out his false agenda. Talk, talk, talk...no substance. He is narcissism to the max and AJ somehow interfered with the story of himself.

GeekRad said...

That interview was really disturbing on so many levels. Especially the "here comes your child" statement.

Jen Ow said...

Hey Sus,

Thanks! Considering that he uttered the above line about her mother/grandmother losing her before her remains were found, it's case closed for me! However, there is still so much more to pull from his statements! After I read his first interview with CH weeks ago, I said the whole story is in there, just not in the way he is trying to portray it. (The interview where he outlined the last time he saw her, the money for her boyfriend, and lied about police finding the jacket/debit card).

He is something else! There is so much weird/red flag/huh?/seriously?, in this above interview, I don't even know where to start!

I'm going to search back in the blog for the transcripts of that original CH interview, and repost it.

john said...

Some of the language he uses.

"I feel that my marriage is shot.

In here you have to wear a mask or they'll tear you apart

I haven't met one person who wants to chop me up and do evil things to me."


This make me wonder if "the remains" are AJs, what condition was she in?

GeekRad said...

Jen Ow, thank you for posting this interview.

Jen Ow said...

Your welcome guys! I am looking for the original CH interview where Hadsell details dropping off the truck, last seeing AJ, etc. It was transcribed by someone as well, (on Websleuths I believe) and then someone posted it on the blog a few weeks ago, but I haven't been able to find it again. (It must have been posted as an off topic?)

Anyway, I think it would be great to analyze. It's the interview that included the line about them sitting in silence, etc.

Lily said...

Hi Jen, here is the link to Peter's first post about AJ. Lots of great analysis of the interview in the comments. I think this is the post you are looking for?

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/03/missing-angelica-hadsell.html?m=1#comment-form

Bonnie Blue said...

I was confused by most of what this man said in the interview above ^^^ but there is one comment that I am really hoping is not leakage:


WH: So, it’s not easy... but… in here you have to wear a mask or they'll tear you apart, but I'm gonna tell you one thing: everybody in here, they respect me. They would have done the same thing. Nothing but support here. I haven't met one person who wants to chop me up and do evil things to me.


First, the mention of the mask. Did he wear a mask when he last saw AJ?
Did he feel that AJ was not "respecting" him?

"I haven't met one person who wants to chop me up and do evil things to me."

Oh geez.
That's an interesting way of putting it.

Is this leakage?
I am going to have nightmares if they report that AJ was mutilated at all.

Here is another interesting thing, Chelsea says that some people think that you have done something to her (AJ), and some think you are innocent?

This is where I would expect him to say that he had nothing to do with her disappearance! Instead, more gibberish:

"WH: Yes, yes - people need to understand, that don't even know me, but have supported me, people need to see things about who I am, um, I'm sure when that page gets wind enough to the right people you'll see stories that will melt your heart because you're not gonna see people jump on there and say that Wesley Hadsell was a liar, a backstabber, a cheat.. I'm a man, I'm a man’s man. I shake hands, I say yes sir, yes ma’am. Thats how I was raised, and I give people respect whether older or younger than me, and uh, that’s what my dad wanted. That’s what my dad taught me to be. I can only be what my dad, you know, raised me to be because he’s not here anymore... and that was the hardest time of my life"

He NEVER EVER said he didn't do it. He never said he was not involved. He just gibbers ...bla bla bla

Foolsfeedonfolly said...

"I haven't met one person who wants to chop me up and do evil things to me."
Anyone notice anything odd about Wesley's statement? Chronologically, it seems out of order. As horrible as it sounds(and I apologize in advance), most people of that ilk do the evil things first, then the killing, followed by the chopping (and then disposal).

Jen Ow said...

Yes! Thank you Lilly!

Peter Hyatt said...

Fools,

no apology necessary. You are listening to words that reveal violence in his vocabulary.

Good job in listening.

Peter