Friday, June 26, 2015

Rick Jones' Statement on Go Fund Me





Rick Jones reported that:

1.  He dismissed his employees
2.  Went out back of his pizza parlor where he was attacked by "someone", hit over the head, knocked unconscious  had "die fag" carved into his flesh, and was forced to drink bleach.  
3.  A week later, a molotov cocktail was thrown threw his window, but did not explode, but burned in his bedroom.  

He also reported that he was robbed $1800 in this "hate crime."

His statements did not connect himself to the crime, as a victim.  Statement Analysis showed that Rick Jones was deception indicated for his report on this crime and was perpetrating a scam, using "homophobia" and "hate crime" as a pretense for theft.  

He started a "Go Fund Me" and the people of Utah responded with generosity by donating and by visiting his pizza parlor.  Hoping to recoup "costs" associated with the crime, he had raised over $11,000 when this announcement was made: 

"Rick and his family are grateful for the expressions of support, but cannot accept this generosity.  All donations are being returned to the donors.
Rick and his family are cooperating fully with the law enforcement investigation and are appreciative of Millard County and the State of Utah for their approach in this case.
While that cooperation continues, the family has no further comment at this time."


Some things to note about this statement:  

"Rick and his family are grateful for the expressions of support, but cannot accept this generosity.  All donations are being returned to the donors.
Rick and his family are cooperating fully with the law enforcement investigation and are appreciative of Millard County and the State of Utah for their approach in this case.
While that cooperation continues, the family has no further comment at this time."

1.  The word "with" between "Rick and his family" and the "law enforcement investigation" indicate distancing language. 

The word "with" when found between people, indicates distance.  For example:

"Heather and I went Christmas shopping."  This could be written as:
"I went Christmas shopping with Heather" where a change in reality has taken place between the first statement and the second.  The distancing in the latter could be anything, including emotion (I did not want to be Christmas shopping) or physical (we went to different stores from each other), but represents distancing language.  

Instead of writing, "Rick, his family, and law enforcement are working to catch the perpetrator...", the writer recognizes the distance between "Rick" and "law enforcement" in reality.

2.  Note next the compliment of "are appreciate":  given that the $11,000 is not being taken, what "appreciation" of officials would the author have?  This is an attempt to show a "make friends" stance, which sometimes shows itself in guilt.  

When the parents of a missing child speak, while the child is not found, they are frustrated with police.  Therefore, when the parent of a missing child who is not found praises police, it is often a red flag, such as the case of Justin Di Pietro and Baby Ayla, issuing large "thank you" messages to a host of agencies and people, while failure to locate his daughter. 

3.  The cooperation is sensitive, as the need to emphasize "fully" is given.  A victim of an assault and attempted murder (arson) would likely have no need to even say he was "cooperating" in the investigation.  

That this family is "fully cooperating" shows a sensitivity connected to the cooperation.  

4.  The cooperation is limited in time.  "While that cooperation continues..." tells us that the element of "time" is involved in the sensitive cooperation and they may have something to say when they end their cooperation with law enforcement.  

Cooperation that is "sensitive" is, at best, a limited cooperation.  This phrase is used by those who are only cooperating in small measure, "limiting" it to certain agenda.  It reveals that the author is concerned about public perception more than the crime.  The author likely fears consequences from the investigation. 


13 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I went Christmas shopping with Heather"

It's noticeable too, that the "I" and "Heather" are as far apart as they can be?

tania cadogan said...

"Rick and his family are grateful for the expressions of support, but cannot accept this generosity. All donations are being returned to the donors.
Rick and his family are cooperating fully with the law enforcement investigation and are appreciative of Millard County and the State of Utah for their approach in this case.
While that cooperation continues, the family has no further comment at this time."

but cannot accept this generosity. All donations are being returned to the donors.
I noted the dropped pronoun which perhaps indicates they wanted to and have been advised not to since it would result in serious charges. The author does not take ownership of "cannot accept this generosity"

Rick and his family are cooperating fully with the law enforcement investigation
Rick had at least one accomplice, the fact they state he AND his family are cooperating indicates perhaps family involvement, a male relative to help with the 'assault'?
The two robberies , especially since the mom said she would be talking to the manufacturer about selling them a 'faulty safe'
Was this a simple con that escalated due to greed since they wanted $50000 for associated costs (what costs would that be?


But can refute what preceded it, or can be used to compare, or even negate what preceded it.
Would they not be grateful for the support since it led now to the police investigation and possible charges?

This was not written by rick or his family it sounds legalese so i wonder if their attorney wrote and posted it or disctated what to say?

appreciative of Millard County and the State of Utah for their approach in this case.
This definitely sounds like lawyer speak.
Who uses appreciative in everyday language?
Why not the more usual thankful or thank?
Are they appreciative that so far, the con has not been publicised?
Are they appreciative that so far no one has been arrested (that i know of)?

I expect members of the family to be involved and that a plea deal will be offered and accepted.
They will prosecute since he faked a hate crime, wasted police time, committed wire fraud/internet fraud, robbery, arson, possibly filed a fake insurance claim or two and whatever else they can think up.
They want to deter people from n making fake hate crimes and from using gofundme for fraudulent purposes.

I do wonder if, in fact, gofundme will be looking at ways to minimise such fraudulent claims as this, perhaps obliging people to file a police report first and provide the crime number in cases of alleged hate crime.
It may act as a detterent if people relaise they have to involve police and that if they are lying they face charges of filing a false police report.
It won't deter the determined ones though.

Jen Ow said...

"Rick and his family are cooperating fullywith the law enforcement investigation and are appreciative of Millard County and the State of Utah for their approach in this case."

Their APPROACH in this case? There is missing information associated with this sentence. This statement, (meant to be interpreted as a 'thank you' or praise for the police) tells us a lot. The police are having to take a special 'approach' in this case. They are having to deal with it in a way that deviates from their normal course of action, which would be investigate, identify perp, and make arrest. In this case, their 'approach' necessitates cooperative measures from Ricky, and the family.

My take on this statement is that LE has 'solved' this case, and the course of action they have taken involves Ricky/his family returning the donations in exchange to no/reduced charges for their role on this hoax.

Matt Whan said...

Forgive me but, I understand the distancing language between rick and family, but not law enforcement. To me, family indicates an implied closeness, an expectation that family is physically closer than law enforcement. I can't think of a way to communicate cooperation with something like law enforcement without using distancing language and also keeping in mind the rule of the shortest sentence tends to be the best. How else might he communicate it" the police and I are cooperating"? That's out of the pronoun boundary of the note using "we". Can you help me to understand this please?

tania cadogan said...

"Rick and his family are grateful for the expressions of support, but cannot accept this generosity. All donations are being returned to the donors

This was written by a third party, probably their attorney or who used language spoken by the attorney.

Note "Rick and his family rather than the expected I if it was written by Rick or, WE if it was written by a family member.

There is no pronoun in relation to but cannot accept this generosity
Who cannot accept this generosity?
Rick?
The family?

Rick is the one who initiated the fund so the expected would be I can't accept this generosity.
Why would there be a need to drop the pronoun?
If they used the pronoun WE, it would imply shared unity and cooperation leading to perhaps questions regarding familial involvement in the assault and perhaps the robbery.

There was at least one other person involved judging by the alleged injuries, unless he threw himself down some stairs or otherwise managed to inflict the broken bones (were they actually broken) and also the alleged hate words carved into his arms (location, which way up the writing was and depth)

Was this a family member who saw an opportunity to make some money?
Along with what was allegedly stolen (twice)

I would like to know if they were polygraphed, who passed, who failed, who refused?

Anonymous said...

Off Topic: I didn't know if you guys had heard of this discovery of remains of female toddler on Deer Island. Police trying to identify, figured might relate to one of cases on here???

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/06/26/search-for-identity-girl-whose-remains-were-found-deer-island-continues/6lnjDL4mJqqxxWBXSyhKXN/story.html

Anonymous said...

Must I be the one to have to enlighten you peeps? Don't you know by now that people don't want to be saved from themselves? They don't want to know if they've been scammed. They'd rather lose their money than have to admit how foolish they were in believing a liar and donating their money to a hoaxed up scheme.

Dang it, sorry to say, but that's the truth of the matter. Might as well call it a day.

Peter Hyatt said...

For some, this is sadly true:


Anonymous said...
Must I be the one to have to enlighten you peeps? Don't you know by now that people don't want to be saved from themselves? They don't want to know if they've been scammed. They'd rather lose their money than have to admit how foolish they were in believing a liar and donating their money to a hoaxed up scheme.

Dang it, sorry to say, but that's the truth of the matter. Might as well call it a day.
June 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM


Some of the "gay mafia" not only blasted Christianity, but some acknowledged that the note may be "fake hate" but still want to support her...because of Christophobia.

Julie Baker blasted an organization that has fed millions of people over the past 75 years, without asking sexual questions first, they just fed them food, because they uphold that marriage is a Divine institution, given by God, for one man and one woman only.

For this stance, she condemned them, entirely, saying she would not support them.

Agenda before food.

This is raging hatred and an insight into how much she loves herself, and how she cares for none but herself. This is what a thief and liar looks like, in the flesh.

There are many who do not embrace Christianity but recognize that their country, unlike 3rd world countries, exists as a result of Christianity's principles of the dignity of life, and that countries that rejected Christianity has had, historically, greater violence among mankind.

Islam does not feed millions of people, and is growing in strength and acceptance in America, while Gay Rights are silent, and women's rights are silent.

As they gain more power, Gays will long for the days where they felt "not loved" by Judeo-Christians, while being stoned as the Koran is being read over them.

The Constitution is destroyed with more force than in more than 160 years.

Brace yourselves.

Peter

maaronslc said...

You do know that not one of the words on the GoFundMe were written by Ricky or any of the Jones family, right? They were written by Scott Fausett, who became involved after the news broke. That would be good information to know before you add insult to injury, literally.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your response to me on June 28th, Peter. You are SO right in everything you said. Please know; I am proud of you for having the fortitude to say those things you know to be true, with no apologies, many others wouldn't.

We have GOT to get back to standing up for what we believe in, Peter, those things we KNOW to be true, right and pure; no matter if others drop all around us like flies in times to come.

For a little while they get away with their mischief and violence.... ahhh, but God is still sitting on the throne with this earth as His footstool. You know, as well as I do; we will be held accountable for our words of knowledge and truth in the end.

He will smile upon you for taking a stand for His people and eschewing the evil that is done towards them. It is written: "Right-eous-ness covers a multitude of sins."

Peter Hyatt said...

I don't even know where to begin.

For those who do not think a sociopathic-like liar is a danger, there is no reasoning.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/hillary-clinton-emails-greta-van-susteren-leslie-gelb

Peter Hyatt said...

Blogger maaronslc said...
You do know that not one of the words on the GoFundMe were written by Ricky or any of the Jones family, right? They were written by Scott Fausett, who became involved after the news broke. That would be good information to know before you add insult to injury, literally.

June 30, 2015 at 1:42 PM Delete

The mantra, "the subject is dead; the statement is alive" means that the words, themselves, are analyzed; not the person,

Rick Jones is guilty of a false police report and using his sexual preference to make money. He has committed fraud and was likely wise in returning the donations solicited under false pretense.

That he still may face charges is unknown to me at this time.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Okay, so I'll be the one to dredge up an unpleasant controversial one-sided opinion; which IS, I believe ALL of these homos, lesbos and transgenders are whacky sickos. A little short on the old beam, and I don't care WHO they are. I can't even stand watching any of them on tv; not the talking heads, the hosts of various shows, the actors or any others.

They are deceitful; they are nasty in their sexual preferences and they've had a HUGE detrimental affect on this country and our sheep-like addled-minded citizens. They are ALL liars to one degree or another, denying their natural course of God created sex. There argument is with GOD, not man; but of course, they blame God, their adversary.

Whether anybody likes it or not; there are TWO kinds of DNA and that is a scientific fact: male and female. The male body and the female body are built to perfectly fit together in sexual intercourse. Like it or lump it; anything else is unnatural, dirty and deviated.

The only good thing that has come out of the entire movement is that many of them who have come out of the closet and openly display their sexual mental sickness no longer trick and deceive innocent partners of the opposite sex into life-long tormenting marriages and a lifetime of misery.