Tuesday, August 18, 2015

Fake Hate: Julie Baker Refunds Go Fund Me Donations

Relentlessly Deceitful 
Julie Baker posted on Facebook that she found a hateful threatening note on her door, telling her to take down her "relentlessly gay" lights or the police would be called, for after all, this was a "Christian area" and there were "children."

She then went to Go Fund Me to raise money for even more "relentlessly gay" lights, which cost about $10.

The donations poured in and when it reached over $40,000, questions arose as to who wrote the note, as some in the public noted the similarities between the note's writing style and Julie Baker's own writing.

Statement Analysis is done of anonymous threatening letters to reveal a profile of the author.

The profile revealed that the author was not a Christian concerned for the neighborhood, but instead the analysis revealed the author was gay female with strong anti-Christian prejudice,
poetic, and, in fact, did match the writing style of Baker, herself.

Statement Analysis agreed with the public perception:  Julie Baker authored the note, herself.

Rather than deny this, she avoided police, initially refused to show them the note, and put the brakes on the donations.   She blamed "hate" as the reason to stop taking more donations, as her own fear of being caught grew, and said the money was "enough."

Baltimore Internet Fraud investigators were able to obtain samples of her writing, including anti-Christian  articles she had written which matched the writing style of capitalizing random letters.  Media picked up on it too, and Baker faced a choice:

Refund the donations or face prosecution and a potentially lengthy prison sentence.  It would not be challenging to convince a jury of her peers that she was the author of the note.  She fraudulently claimed "death threats" with the same credibility as her initial claim of having "received" the note.

Baker is now asking that donators claim refunds as she has chosen to avoid prison.  She is still being deceptive in her posting, blaming "taxes" as the reason.  The website and all the potential sale of t shirts and trinkets comes to naught, as it was based upon a false report.

In her refund message, she does not ask for forgiveness from the community she scammed, but continues, instead, to deceive.

The deception continues.


23 comments:

Anonymous said...

WOW! Good job Peter. You nailed her to the wall from the beginning. Congrats.

Jessica Blans said...

Interesting that I haven't seen this news story in any of the aggregate sites I glance at each day. What a shame, because I think a lot of people will remember the moral of this story is that Christians are hateful, but nonChristians are loving.
Jessica Blans

tania cadogan said...

I am glad she saw sense and has decided/was advised to refund the donations.

With the statement analysis here, posts to her relentlessly gay gofundmepage explaining why she was deceptive including analysis and advise from people to call an end to the scam and also all the posts and comments to the Snopes page again showing she was deceptive and showing in her own words where the deception lay as well as the support page she had on FB where i and many others explained her deception.

Many of us directly messaged julie baker, advising her we knew the truth, her own words told us the truth, minimal digging revealed she and her family had tried other gofundme schemes.

I know she did not respond to me, she may have done to others.

None of us wanted her to end up in jail over something so stupid and blatantly a scam.

I am not surprised she decided to refund the donations, she knew what would happen if she tried to collect.
I suspect she tried to see if there was any way she could get the money without risk of jail, clearly she was 'advised' no and that the moment she clicked withdraw funds, she would be facing serious charges and jail time.

I wish she had come clean about her dishonesty as a reminder to others who might try the same thing, the consequences outweigh the benefits.

Saying sorry would be to her benefit.
That she instead chooses to blame others for her handing the money back will only do further harm to her reputation.

It is clear she has been dishonest and she continues to remain so.
There may still be consequences.

I will continue to see if her ardent supporters have anything to say about the money and her.

BallBounces said...

Her story generated a lot of intolerant/hateful comments against Christians on a UK newspaper website site. I doubt any retraction will result in the same level of coverage or rancor. False hate crimes are themselves a form of hate crime.

Cindy Lee said...

Julie did say she would refund donations, but she seems to be placing the initiative for that on the donors. She ends her statement with this: "I ask you to take your donations back and give to local artists or educational nonprofit organizations."

And, apparently, she literally means she is asking donors to take back the donations on their own. At least, she has not actually issued any refunds herself, according to comments on the GoFundMe page. Nor has she responded to donors who wrote her asking for their refunds. Only those who have directly contacted the GoFundMe site have been successful so far with refunds.

She does not even have the decency, it appears, to take the time to actually issue the refunds, but is suggesting the donors "take donations back."

John mcgowan said...

OT Update:

LEMHI SHERIFF OPENS UP ABOUT DEORR KUNZ CASE

SALMON — Lemhi County Sheriff Lynn Bowerman believes missing Idaho Falls toddler DeOrr Kunz Jr. will be found, even though it’s been nearly six weeks since he disappeared.

In an extensive interview with EastIdahoNews.com, Bowerman said nothing has been ruled out in the investigation, although he doesn’t believe the child was abducted.

“I think an abduction is one of the least likely events,” Bowerman said. “Grandpa was sitting within 20 to 30 yards of the only roadway into the campground, and absolutely no one was seen at that lower campground coming or going.”

Bowerman is “99 percent sure” DeOrr was at the campground with his parents, DeOrr Kunz Sr. and Jessica Mitchell, great-grandfather, Robert Walton, and Isaac Reinwand, a friend of the grandfather, when the 2-year-old was last seen.

Early in the investigation, there were conflicting reports about when the family arrived at the Timber Creek Campground in Leadore. Authorities had said the group arrived Friday, July 10, but Bowerman said the group actually arrived late on Thursday, July 9. The next morning, DeOrr’s parents said they took their son to a store about 20 minutes from the campsite.

“I don’t believe the store has a surveillance (system), but we have a receipt that shows they purchased certain items,” Bowerman said. “The time was stamped on the receipt, so we believe that’s where they went.”

When asked if the family was anywhere else during the trip, Bowerman said they stopped for diesel fuel traveling from Idaho Falls to Leadore, but the gas station doesn’t have surveillance video either.

After the Friday morning shopping trip, the family returned to camp, and DeOrr’s parents said they left the child with Walton while they went exploring.

“Isaac (Walton’s friend) was in the same general proximity,” Bowerman said. “He’s downstream, they’re upstream and they’re all within probably 100 to 150 feet of each other.”

Cont..

John mcgowan said...

When the parents returned, they couldn’t find DeOrr and called 911.

Weeks of extensive searches focusing on a three mile radius around the campsite resulted in nothing.

Meanwhile, Bowerman said DeOrr’s parents and Walton were questioned multiple times by Lemhi detectives.

“Those three have been very cooperative,” Bowerman said. “They’ve given us everything we ask for, and I feel real good about the parents and the grandfather.”

Reinwand has also been questioned, and Bowerman revealed Kunz Sr. and Mitchell had never met him before this camping trip.

“I’m not getting any feeling that he’s not being truthful,” Bowerman said. “He’s come up to the area on a second occasion with me, and I think he’s been very truthful and I appreciate his help.”

Bowerman said everyone at the campsite has had their vehicles and homes searched several times, and Bonneville County deputies and the FBI are now working with Lemhi County detectives.

“All four have voluntarily taken polygraphs and right now they’ve been turned over to the FBI,” Bowerman said. “We’ve given the FBI lots of items to analyze behaviorally and we’ve given them some physical evidence.”

Bowerman wouldn’t go into details about what specifically has been turned over to the FBI but he said he wants “all bases covered” to help solve the case.

“We’ll wait until we get the report from the FBI,” Bowerman said. “It’s going to be critical in this case.”

Bowerman said the FBI would have results in six to eight weeks. Meanwhile, the search for DeOrr will continue and, with hunting season starting soon, Bowerman hopes a hunter in the Lemhi mountains might discover the child.

Bowerman said his office has received hundreds of tips in this case and he continues to ask the public to contact his office at (208) 756-8980 with any information about DeOrr’s disappearance.

*An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated the name of DeOrr’s great-grandfather. We regret the error and have updated the story with the correct name.

Click here to watch the unedited interview with Bowerman.

http://www.eastidahonews.com/2015/08/lemhi-sheriff-opens-up-about-deorr-kunz-case/

Anonymous said...

Just watched the new documentary on Kurt Cobain's apparent suicide. "Soaked in Bleach"
Do you think Courtney Love or soemone else murdered Kurt ?
Have you done statement analysis on her recorded conversations by Tom Grant, the P.I. she hired to look for Kurt ? Or any of the case ?

Anonymous said...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/19/did-black-lives-matter-organiser-shaun-king-mislead-oprah-winfrey-by-pretending-to-be-biracial/


An investigative blogger has accused Shaun King, a key figure in the Black Lives Matter movement, of misleading media icon Oprah Winfrey by pretending to be biracial in order to qualify for an “Oprah scholarship” to historically black Morehouse College. The blogger says King is white and has been lying about his ethnicity for years.

Anonymous said...

And, of course, in the Kunz missing child case the man seen with the child in a 1996 sandstone Buick LaSabre got gas at a station with no surveillence system, too.

Sounds like a "Gracer" with the searchers showing up to indict the family.

MzOpinion8d said...

Anon @ 9:36 am, where did the info about a Buick come from? I haven't heard that before.

Anonymous said...

Re Tania post on 8/18 @ 7:37 p.m., "None of us wanted her to end up in jail over something so stupid and blatantly a scam." Speak for yourself. I DID. Arrest and jail is exactly where she should be. This was not just a game she played.

What she committed was a crime. Why should she get away with it? Perhaps if she'd been charged, prosecuted and served time in the pen, others might think before they commit such a crime the next time.

Moreover, I think I might have felt that she deserved to lose every penny of the scam she pulled off on having to use it to pay legal fees, with her watching all this money sprout wings and fly. It would have served her right.

tania cadogan said...

Anonymous said...

Re Tania post on 8/18 @ 7:37 p.m., "None of us wanted her to end up in jail over something so stupid and blatantly a scam." Speak for yourself. I DID. Arrest and jail is exactly where she should be. This was not just a game she played.

What she committed was a crime. Why should she get away with it? Perhaps if she'd been charged, prosecuted and served time in the pen, others might think before they commit such a crime the next time.

Moreover, I think I might have felt that she deserved to lose every penny of the scam she pulled off on having to use it to pay legal fees, with her watching all this money sprout wings and fly. It would have served her right.


Since she did not take the money nor did she report it as a hate crime to the police, she did not technically commit a crime.
What we all advised her to do both in the posts and via pm was don't be stupid, we know you are lying, you know we know you are lying, don't make the situation any worse by trying to collect the money or by continuing to ask for more.

Had she tried to do either then i was all for arrest and prosecution and justifiably so as well as making peter's analysis and my own available indicating her deception.
As it stands, her reputation is in shreds though this will not likely bother her given she still continues with the deception claiming taxes etc.
Should she ever genuinely need help she will find it to be not forthcoming or if any does arrive it will be from close friends only (and possibly those who like to jump on a cause)

I suspect though her children or family will likely try other gofundme's as they have done previously.
I also expect her to make statements to inquiring media about 'taxes etc' and she being the kind loving soul that she is decided to return all the donations whilst asking the donors give it to other deserving causes, making out she is an all round goodie two shoes showing concern for others.
All rather predictable in such cases.

I also hope those who donated think before jumping on a bandwagon of alleged hate and instead donate to someone in genuine need who perhaps needs only a couple hundred dollars.

tania cadogan said...

http://www.gofundme.com/x6dkw9h?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cta_button&utm_campaign=upd_n

Kellie said...

OT

Dylan Redwine
Mark Redwine Now Person of Interest in Son's Death

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Dylan-Redwines-Death-Ruled-a-Homicide-322329332.html

The La Plata County Sheriff's Office has officially ruled Dylan Redwine's death a homicide. They've also officially named his father, Mark Redwine, as a person of interest.

Earlier this summer, the sheriff's office identified a person of interest in the case. Just this afternoon, they announced that person is Mark Redwine, the father of Dylan Redwine.

11 News sat down with Elaine Hall, Dylan's mother, who told us she was not surprised at the announcement.

"Dylan didn't go missing. Dylan went missing to us, Mark knew exactly where Dylan was on November 18th," said Elaine.

Dylan was just 13 years old when he disappeared from his father's home outside Durango just before Thanksgiving in 2012. His remains were found along a rural road in the San Juan National Forest in June 2013, seven months after he vanished. Middle Mountain Road is frequently used for hiking and off-roading, but is rendered inaccessible in winter months due to snow. Dylan's body was found after dozens of law enforcement and search and rescue personnel combed the mountain over a five-day period looking for clues previously hidden by snow.

"Dylan would be proud of [Mark] if he came forward and let everybody know and let us know where the rest of Dylan's remains are and what happened that night," said Elaine.

Investigators said they made their decision to make Mark a person of interest based on "evidence collected, inconsistent statements made by Mark Redwine, and his behavior throughout the investigation."

Last month, The La Plata County Sheriff's Office told 11 News that new evidence was discovered after two recent searches near the location where Dylan's remains were found two year earlier. Investigators worked with Pete Klismet, a former FBI profiler from Colorado Springs.

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OldPsychNurse said...

Peter,
Would you please analyze this very short interview r/t the disappearance of Joe Keller? The interview is with one of the two teens who were with Joe when he disappeared.
http://www.newschannel9.com/news/top-stories/stories/friend-speaks-cleveland-missing-teen-19432.shtml
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

ABB,

Are you capable of ever posting without insulting someone? You bring this site down with your constant, harpy, vitriolic and one-sided judgement. Stop messing up Peter's site.

Anonymous said...

ummm.... let me see. Who uses the words harpy and vitriolic? Shouldn't be too hard to figure out who made this post to me under the guise of 'anon'... or do I even care that much? Uh, I think not. On the other hand, I might take your advice (insult) to heart. ABB

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Debbie Cabral said...

Amen,Peter,i agree.

Kallan Kennedy said...

I am one of the people that investigators contacted in their investigation. I turned over several pieces of evidence, as she wrote for my epublication last summer. I also gave them your contact information in case they wanted to get your perspective. It's clear that she was warned what would happen if she touched those funds. Generally speaking, fundraising proceeds aren't considered a taxable source of income. The IRS classifies the donations as gifts, which recipients don't need to report on their tax returns, so her claim of taxes being the issue is bogus.