Sunday, May 8, 2016

The Hobbyist As Analyst

Statement Analysis can be entertaining.  It can be, after all, rather fun to see a case hit the news, listen to the major players, and be able to say, "he did it!" to learn, later, he really did commit the crime. 

Being a hobbyist can become a fascination and as a new way to view the news, as it is presented today by main stream media, it is also useful.

As one media twister recently said, the 'journalists today are 27 years old, know very little about the world, and are easy to play.'

They are given access to the White House in the last 7 years because they fawned all over the president, like a rock star.  To them, in the presence of their supervisors and editors, the president thanked them, "for their support."

Thus, the death of journalism as we have come to know it.  The hobby analyst has a level of help here, when reading or listening to the news.  

They Hobby Analyst is an interesting person, with an interesting hobby, and reading up on analysis, using its terms, and applying some of them also helps provide a level of protection personally from the harm that liars do, including in emotional and vulnerable positions.  "You just answered my question with a question" and they recognize how their question produced this.  

Here, the hobbyist went from a distant 'who done it' in the news, to an increased level of discernment while now listening to main stream media and the politicians MSM upholds, and to a personal level of protection where the heart, itself, is kept safer.  (not "safe", for this is impossible).  

The hobbyist also uses the principles and skills in child raising.  This, too, is an advantage because it is most likely that to reach the level of hobbyist, the individual has read enough to learn how destructive lying is and has taken to teaching his or her children to tell the truth, and to own when one lies. 

This is a personal advantage, but it is also a societal advantage. 

Those who learn in childhood that lying is wrong are now in a better statistical category for the well being and safety of society in general.  In order to exploit his fellow man, the exploiter must now overcome his childhood resistance to deception.  For some, it is easy to do, but just having resistance, in any dosage, is far better than no internal resistance at all. Should the hobbyist wish to assist his or her place of business with analysis, the call for a formal education, however, must be answered as the first public error is generally the last.  

There are clear advantages to learning to analyze the statements of others in the form of a hobby and these advantages are many, from child raising to greater discernment and natural protection from exploitation.  There are some good solid easy-to-read books to help the hobbyist along, which are frequently recommended here.  Besides the reading...

practice, practice, and more practice.  




32 comments:

Hey Jude said...

Hmm - I don't think of SA in terms of it being a hobby - my hobbies involve stuff - making and/ or collecting it. I see SA as an interest, but it's not a hobby, as hobbies (to my mind) are rather less cerebral than SA is - or more accurately, should/would be if I didn't sidetrack and emote on about the subjects rather than trying to analyse them more - it fills the voids where the knowledge and self-discipline should be. :-/ I don't know, remember or apply the principles too well. In that sense, 'hobbyist' is as good as it can get without formal training, but it's still not much like a hobby. Hobbies are basically for one's own satisfaction - with SA, it's more about others.

Sometimes it seems and looks more like work than relaxation - depending on how much effort anyone chooses to put into looking at and writing about a case. Hobbies are primarily enjoyable and relaxing, more doing than learning - SA, is enjoyable, but more demanding than my type of hobby. Maybe it's an armchair detective sort of hobby, thrill-seeking without the danger - everyone likes a mystery. I always cannot wait for the next blog post, yet without always having absorbed what is in the current one. Still, 'hobby' doesn't seem the most fitting word, to me - I rather 'interest', and one I hope to improve in over time.

rjb said...

SA has certainly become a hobby of mine since I started reading this blog in November. I am one of those who uses it as a parenting tool, but I am aware of my limitations and ignorance (since it is just a hobby at this point) and try not to read too much into things as my ignorance can lead to more harm than good.

I recently finished Peter's book and I am hoping to be able to take courses at LSI after my family moves to Phoenix this summer. I don't know what I will do with a more in-depth understanding of SA; I love to learn and this is the first discipline that has fascinated me since my college science courses.

elf said...

I am a bibliophile descended from a long line of bibliophiles. I love words. I've been reading this blog for over three years now (early 2013) and the first article I read was one about Lisa Irwin and it blew me away. I'd known there was something wrong with Deborah Bradley's story but I couldn't put my finger on it. Then I started to learn about Hailey Dunn and I was a believer in statement analysis.
Since I'm just a stay at home mom in her 40s all this will ever be is a hobby for me, but that's ok :)

John mcgowan said...

OT:

'I was NOT a spy': Polish solidarity hero Lech Walesa denies he was a communist secret agent for Russia on Facebook and releases new papers he says PROVES it.

Solidarity hero Lech Walesa has denied claims he was a communist spy for Russia by new secret files which he says proves his innocence on Facebook.
The former president, who helped bring about the collapse of Communism in Poland, said he would publish 900 documents he has for people to decide for themselves whether he was a secret agent.

Walesa made the decision to start sharing the papers after documents apparently showing his signature seemingly agreeing to work for the Communist secret police were released in February - reigniting conspiracy theories around the leader.

The documents were handed to authorities in Warsaw by Maria Kiszczak, the widow of Poland's former Interior Minister General Czeslaw Kiszczak, who needed the money for home repairs.

They contained 183 pages of a personal file on an agent codenamed Bolek and 576 pages of work carried out by the agent between 1970 and 1976.
The files suggested that Poland's first post-Communist president served as a paid spy for the same regime he later fought and brought down - something Walesa has strongly denied.
He wrote: 'I've never kept secrets in my life. Let the truth of this rubbish come out. Almost everything is a lie and a fake against me.
'This is what I get for serving my country
.

The shortest sentence is the best. It is strong and to the point. They are more than likely to be truthful. When additional words are added the sentence is considered weak.

'I've never kept secrets in my life. Let the truth of this rubbish come out.

"Iv'e never kept secrets in my life, let the truth come out". Is to the point. However, i find it hard to believe that anyone let alone an alleged "Spy" has never kept a secret sometime in their life. Be it their own, or a friend confiding in them.

Almost everything is a lie and a fake against me.
'This is what I get for serving my country
.

"Almost"

Oh dear.

Again the shortest sentence is the best. "Everything is a lie." Although, i would like clarification on what "everything" is.

Almost everything is a lie and a fake against me.
'This is what I get for serving my country
.

He tells us that "Almost everything is a lie" Then uses the addition word "fake". This is unnecessary given that he has used the word "lie" Clarification "lie" "Fake"(subjective internal dictionary definition)

'This is what I get for serving my country.

Note he uses the word "this". It places him close, Psychologically.

'So judge me, fight with me, and find the truth. I'm not hiding anything and do not deny anything. Let the truth prevail.'

I'm not hiding anything and do not deny anything.

Deception indicated.

"I'm not hiding anything"

This invites suspicion. When someone says this or a variation of, they generally have something to hide. What is the "anything" he is not "hiding"? "Anything" is repeated making it sensitive.

"and do not deny anything".

Yet above he says "I've never kept secrets in my life"

This is to "deny" keeping secrets, although unreliable.

What is missing is a "reliable denial". If he would have said "I didn't/did not spy for Russia" in an open statement using his own words, and could look back on this and say "I told the truth" the case would be closed.

Cont..

John mcgowan said...

Cont..

He promised his 38,000 Facebook followers he would make all the documents public if his post received 10,000 likes.
But after falling short by 8,000 likes he decided to publish them anyway, saying: 'As promised all documents are posted here, you will see the deception.'

This maybe an "embedded confession" "Leakage", if he is not using the language of others.

The declaration released in February by Poland's Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) said: 'The undersigned, Lech Walesa, the son of Boleslawa and Feliks born in 1943 in Popowo, Lipno, agrees to maintain the strict secrecy of talks held between him and employees of the security services.
'At the same time he undertakes to cooperate with the secret police in detecting and combating enemies of communism. He will pass on the information in writing and it will be truthful.

'The fact that he cooperates with the secret services he undertakes to keep strictly confidential and to not disclose even to his family.
'The information will be signed with the pseudonym 'Bolek.'
Mr Walesa's signature appears at the bottom of the document just above the codename Bolek.

But he has always denied having worked for the secret police, and, after obtaining copies of the documents contained in the so-called Kiszczak files, Mr Walesa is now publishing 30-a-day - along with secret police files from his personal collection.
Two of the documents posted online by Mr Walesa show the names of intelligence officers who dealt with his file - but some are missing, proving, he says, the documents are fake.
Mr Walesa posted the first set of documents on Thursday, but then bizarrely deleted them a few hours later. They failed to prove whether or not he was a spy. His press office failed to respond to calls from MailOnline.
Mr Walesa - renowned worldwide for negotiating a bloodless end to communism in Poland in 1989 - said: 'There are two documents, one in each file supposedly found in Kisczak's file.

'Anyone who has the slightest idea about these things knows that in those documents there has to be certain names. Here they are not.

John mcgowan said...

Cont..

'I put these two documents as indisputable evidence they are fake.'
He added that he would make the names of the officers missing from the list public and then a few hours later published them.
Other documents show receipts for cash payments from secret police officers to an agent named Bolek.
One dated January 27, 1972, shows 'Bolek' received 600 PLN 'from an officer of the SB' (the secret police).
Another dated April 5, 1972, shows payment of 500 PLN while another from October 30, 1972, shows payment for 600 PLN.
But Mr Walesa denies receiving these payments and said there were a few agents using the codename Bolek and has now called for them to come forward.
He said: 'In Gdansk there were a few Boleks whose information was collected and added to my file. If some Bolek recognises this please contact me. He will not be in danger and I will be his protector. Here it comes down to truth, decency and honour.'
Last month, Polish prosecutors said they would be seeking the opinion of handwriting experts to compare various signatures of Mr Walesa with those in the documents to see if they were consistent.


General Kiszczak's widow Maria Kiszczak, 82, who handed the documents over for an alleged £12,485 (90,000 PLN), because she needed to money for house repairs, won't be able to help, however.
She told MailOnline: 'Before he died, my husband said that if I ever needed financial help I should take these documents to the IPN.
'They were bound together and I didn't open them. It was only when the police came that I discovered there was a note inside saying they should not be made public for decades after his death.
'I feel guilty because I didn't realise there would be such a reaction. And I didn't realise the documents were supposed to be kept secret for years.
'My husband wanted to protect Walesa's reputation as a hero.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3575480/I-NOT-spy-Polish-solidarity-hero-Lech-Walesa-denies-communist-secret-agent-Russia-Facebook-releases-new-papers-says-PROVES-it.html#ixzz488rQL6J8

Anonymous said...

SA can give insight and provides another way of looking at things, of approaching them, of perceiving.
It may be a hobby to some, but it is also more, something deeper I think.

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My Sew Imperfect Life said...

Hey Jude, I consider it a hobby BC it takes up time & is a leisure activity. I craft/sew too, but I love to read & reading can be a hobby. This is a step beyond just reading though. :-)

Ot:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36097300

2 divers died during a difficult long dive. The 2nd cause was unclear BC the 5th diver who tried (supposedly) to come to his aid claims to not remember clearly what happened. He also refused to be interviewed for the article. And his friends & another very experience d diver planned a recovery mission for the bodies after the police were unable. The 5th diver was the 1st in the recovery mission, but returned almost immediately & said he slept poorly & wasn't in the right frame of mind for the dive. (In his defense panicking means you absorb too much co2 & can die, but this time they had a whole team of divers below & above surface & a literal tonne of gear.)

So is PTSD possible, or something more hinky?

Nat said...

Agreed ! This hobby has helped me to protect myself and also has helped me to be more accepting, in a way, of liars. When I see the lies or half-truths, when I can anticipate that relating to certain people will include hearing their distorted truths, there is less power to cause me pain - I'm not disillusioned because I knew who I was dealing with all along. I've also become convinced that habitual liars or half truthers are generally insecure people who use their deceptions to avert rejection. This understanding helps me to be sympathetic while still protecting myself because I withold trust.

Anonymous said...

OT

Peter, are you planning an analysis of Sidney's Moorer's recent hysterical interview? The one where he claims it COULD have been his truck going to Peachtree Landing, but if ti was, no one he knew was driving it. H'es got to be the unluckiest SOB in the world. Someone stole his truck, kidnapped and murdered his former lover, and then returned the truck to his residence without his knowledge. And Tammy and Heather must have truly bonded when Tammy asked her to accompany her to an attorney to file for divorce from Sidney. (LITERALLY, MOORERS, THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD.) After watching those interviews, I can't imagine what Heather Elvis ever saw in him. Curious if after watching the interview, if you still think Sidney is a victim of his controlling wife.

Hey Jude said...

I suppose it depends on one's definition of a hobby - to me it's stuff, or doing something I don't normally do. If I did amatuer dramatics, that would be a hobby, as would be making the costumes, whilst reading the play wouldn't be a hobby, because I already read so often, though not often books these days.

:)

Hey Jude said...

Sorry, that was in response to MySewImperfectLife.

I should get off here now, but I keep checking if Peter has put up a new article.

Anonymous said...

Please comment on terri bevers murder. Near Dallas tx. Late April. Thanks.

My Sew Imperfect Life said...

Hey hey Jude :-) I'm a sahm too. My youngest is now back in school after 4 yrs of back & forth btwn home study & some school time. She has ulcerative colitis, but they changed meds & she's better. I can furtively read here when I should be doing housework since no one is home till 2:30! They all know I do it tho lol. In my defense I have spinal herniations & a neuromuscular disease so I have to regularly lay down flat. (Holding the tablet above my head for long periods isn't really resting tho lol. I just ignore that inconvenient truth!)

I used to read sewing , quilting, and political blogs, but now I read mostly here & the bbc. I think that's why I've not been buying much fabric. No see = no want. My hubby has been happy abt that. He owes Peter a "thank you" fruitbasket! ;-)

Anonymous said...

SAHM = Stay At Home Mom

or

SAHM = Statement Analysis Hobbyist Member

My Sew Imperfect Life said...

Oh my goodness, I want that on a T-shirt lol!

Hey Jude said...
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Zsuzsanna said...

Re: Terri Bevers

Husband And Father-In-Law Of Murdered Midlothian Mom Addresses Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICfVJ4yIHcs

"early in the game" referring to the police investigation

"this person" referring to his wife's murderer

claims his wife was killed because she walked in on a burglary, and then immediately says she was targeted, and that she was not randomly killed.

Hobbyist or not, these two guys set of every alarm of anyone with half a brain.

Nic said...
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Nic said...

Has this interview ever been posted? It's pretty recent (March 11, 2016)

DeOrr Kunz's parents deny harming their son:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/idaho/deorr-kunzs-parents-deny-harming-their-son/78531935

___________

The writer/editor cleaned up the interview, so I've reverted the interview questions and responses back to their raw state. We don't always get to hear the questions because of editing however, (whoa!)

“For me it's hard to even leave my house to go to get gas, or you know to go to the grocery store." said Jessica.

"You get up in the morning hopeful, you go to bed, just no more answers," said Vernal.

Tears stream down the faces of a mother and father accused of lying about their son's disappearance.

Jessica Mitchell and Vernal Kunz say July 10, 2015, is the last day they saw their son.


911 ("Um, my two year old son, um we can’t find him.”)

“It’s, it's so much easier just to blame parents," said Vernal.

......

"People have pretty much laid my son to rest already," said Vernal.

Jessica and Vernal say not a day goes by without a threat.


“People just coming up to us in general, in the public telling us that they know that we're going to go to hell for what we did to our son. And how could we...," said Jessica.

"If you're so damn positive we'd like to talk to you and so does the inv… law enforcement and FBI then, if you're so positive," said Vernal.

........

“Phillip Klein claims that you confessed to knowing where baby DeOrr is, and that you won't go any further than that. Is that true?" asked KIFI reporter Chelsea Brentzel.

"Absolutely not. No," replied Jessica.

"So I have to ask you, did you murder your son?" said Brentzel.

"Absolutely not," replied Vernal.

“No.” replied Jessica.

"Was there an accident?” asked Brentzel.

“No," replied Vernal

“No” replied Jessica.

if there was it wasn’t to my knowledge." replied Vernal.

“Exactly, we have no knowledge of that, if there was,”
replied Jessica.

“You're saying you have nothing to do with his disappearance," asked Brentzel.

“No,” replied Jessica.

"No, he was left with a trusted adult and when I come back my son was gone," replied Vernal.


“And does it worry you that with these things that have come out from Klein, and uh that people are going to stop looking?" asked Brentzel.

“Yeah, umm I feel like that's been the case for months now," said Jessica. "I feel like they've already made up their minds, ‘Oh he is deceased’ or whatever they think, and people went, 'oh okay, well whatever' and (talking over each other, Vernal: "they were able to put things to rest that way,” Jessica: they were able to walk past him,) yeah and they they could’ve walked past him, someone could have easily walked past him in a store."

“And thanks to the politics of this, in your mind you've already put this to, he’s, you put him behind ya, it’s closed in your mind. He's not home, we have no more answers than we did July 10th," said Vernal.

The parents say the search is not over.

"If somebody has him I want them to know that we're not going to give up and we'll find him, and it doesn't matter what you do to his appearance, we'll find him," said Jessica.

"Til the day I die, til the day we die, I will, I will find him," said Vernal. "I refuse to leave this earth not knowing where he is and what happened at least. At least knowing that he's okay."

Nic said...

“And thanks to the politics of this, in your mind you've already put this to, he’s, you put him behind ya, it’s closed in your mind. He's not home, we have no more answers than we did July 10th," said Vernal.

The parents say the search is not over.

"If somebody has him I want them to know that we're not going to give up and we'll find him, and it doesn't matter what you do to his appearance, we'll find him," said Jessica.

"Til the day I die, til the day we die, I will, I will find him," said Vernal. "I refuse to leave this earth not knowing where he is and what happened at least. At least knowing that he's okay."

Hey Jude said...

Nic - yes, Peter posted an analysis of that interview on March 14th.

Nic said...

Blogger Zsuzsanna said...
Re: Terri Bevers

Husband And Father-In-Law Of Murdered Midlothian Mom Addresses Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICfVJ4yIHcs
_____________

Transcript: Part 1


Brandon: They have everything (shaking head no,) Uh, they have my uh, flight tickets, the rental car that we rented in Gulfport, Mississippi, matter of fact when I pulled in to my driveway Monday at 3:00pm, I was in a car with Mississippi plates on it. And uh, I mean all of that’s, all of that’s (shaking head no) that’s a, that’s a non issue.

Reporter: Randy, minor thing, the dry cleaner had your shirt listed as a woman’s double X-L shirt, (inaudible),

Randy: the what?

Reporter: The dry cleaner listed your shirt with the blood stains on it as a woman’s

Randy: Well my wife, my wife’s shirt ha, my wife’s white shirt had blood stains on it too. So both of us had blood stains on her shirt and mine. So, cause it, you kn..

Reporter: So there are two shirts with blood on it.

Randy: Yeah.

Reporter: But they are only listing one.

Reporter: (inaudible) only listed one, where’s the other shirt?

Randy: The dry cleaners!

Reporters: So the dry cleaner calls and says there is blood on.. (talking over each other)

Randy: I don’t know, I don’t know what the dry, I don’t know the conversation between cleaners and the police station. Okay. I don’t know that conversation.

Reporter: But you’re saying there are, there are, there’s blood on two shirts.

Randy: There’s, there’s, there's two shirts that’s got blood on it. K?

Reporter: Randy even though it’s brought you this attention, would you say, glad they’re looking so closely…

Randy: You better believe it. You better believe it. You better believe it. (Shaking head no.) I d.. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be doing their job, okay? So by them doing this, it tells me that they’re being diligent and doing their job on, on any, any tiny little whatever comes across as being looked at. And it should be. So that’s great!

Reporter: Do you have a photo of that Chihuahua? I know I keep a lot of pictures of my dog about..

Randy: Uh, no, (chuckles,) my wife would have, but I don’t have one. But, you know, it’s just, it’s just little.

Brandon: That, that, that, was a that dog was her b, that dog was a very precious animal to her. (Randy talking over: Yeah, it was, you know,)

Brandon: I mean very.

Reporter: What’s his or her name? The Chihuahua?

Randy: Hey? Kilo.

Randy” Kilo. Yup

Husband: Kilo

Reporter: Could you get your wife to email us a picture of the dog.

Randy: Well we’ll see. (chuckles)

Reporter: Did you talk about anything else with the investigators other than the shirt and the dog today?

Brandon: Not really. We’ve been just sitting in there waiting for you guys to show up. So…

Reporter: And I know, Brandon, you’ve talked with investigators several times, and you continue to do that clearly. How many times would you say you’ve talked with them?

Nic said...

Part 2

Brandon: I’ve only had one, uh, I’ve only had one uh, formal interview that was early in, o, in, in the stage of the game, but uh, and they call me periodically and I call them periodically because I think of uh, I think of certain things that I want to make sure that they’re looking into. Uh, I even called them today and I said, “You need to look into this avenue, you need to look at this,”… and in 90% of the cases they’ve already done it. So, but it’s, you know, I’m, I’m, I sit and I think about uh, about, catching this person, and I think, (shakes head no,) I-I just role play in my mind, any possible leads I can give, uh, but in 90% of the times that I’ve reached out to them to provide them this information, they’ve already gone down the avenue.

Reporter: And I know when we talked with you last, you said that you believed she had walked in on a burglary.

Brandon: Ye, eg, I need to clarify that. Um, when I came up here to review… Now you gotta remember, was that not, that was on Tuesday or Monday? When i gave that statement?

Reporter: That was on Tuesday.

Brandon: Okay. You gotta remember, uh, no sleep, uh, I’m in poor, I’m in bad health, uh, and uh, no, I do not believe that she was, uh,I believe that (nodding) she was targeted. Okay, that’s my opinion. That’s not, that’s not any information that anybody provided me. But uh, I believe that she was targeted.

Reporter: (talking over each other) For what reason? Yeah, for why?

Brandon: Uh, evidence? For reasons of evidence I’m not going to say that. Uh, but uh, there’s no reason, there’s no reason, if a person, you have to ask yourself, if a person’s going to break into a church, what are they going to take. Uh, what are they there to steal? AV equipment? I, I work in a church. Some of the most expensive equipment in a church is AV equipment. Um, or money from, uh, tithings from the previous day. Okay, those are the (shakes no) two things.

Station breaks away from interview...

Nic said...

As an aside, friends rented a car to travel from the airport to a ski resort/chalet they rented for a week. Not far out of the airport they found the steering “wobbly” so they returned that car for another. The first car was subsequently rented out and was issued a parking ticket. When they returned the first car, the return wasn’t input properly and as a result they were sent the parking ticket (because his driver’s license was still registered as the responsible renter.) It didn’t matter that they had all sorts of documentation (credit card receipts for chalet rental, lunches, dinners, at the hill, etc.), demonstrating that they were in a completely different city. The only thing that got him out of the ticket was that his ski pass (purchased for use for the week,) had scanned *him* getting on a lift at the time the parking ticket was being issued.

Nic said...

Thank you, Hey Jude. I'll look it up.

tania cadogan said...

“You're saying you have nothing to do with his disappearance," asked Brentzel.

“No,” replied Jessica.


This is confusing.

Is she telling us she had nothing to do with his disappearance?

OR

Is she telling us she ISN'T telling us she had nothing to do with his appearance? (she did have something to do with his disappearance)


My first thought was the latter option.

She is asked "are you are telling us you had nothing to do with the disappearance"

Her reply is NO

By replying no, she disagrees with his statement that she was not involved.
By saying no, she tells us she is involved.

What she should have said was Yes. I had nothing to do with DeOrr disappearing.
I did not harm DeOrr.
I did not Kill DeOrr
I do Not know where DeOrr is.


“Phillip Klein claims that you confessed to knowing where baby DeOrr is, and that you won't go any further than that. Is that true?" asked KIFI reporter Chelsea Brentzel.

"Absolutely not. No," replied Jessica.

"So I have to ask you, did you murder your son?" said Brentzel.

"Absolutely not," replied Vernal.

“No.” replied Jessica.

"Was there an accident?” asked Brentzel.

“No," replied Vernal

“No” replied Jessica.


Note where their denial changes language.
We get an "absolutely no, not" from jessica when asked if she confessed she knew where DeOrr was.
This is an unreliable denial.
Her denial is weakened by the addition of the extra word NO.

When asked if there had been an accident both her and vernal answer no.

When asked if they murdered their son, Jessica says NO
Vernal says absolutely not"

There is no reliable denial about ether knowing where DeOrr is or him being murdered.
Both use the same language in relation to it being accidental NO

We then have a similar denial from vernal regarding murder when he replies "absolutely not"

If it wasn't accidental, was it as a result of something else happening, another crime perhaps?
Was it as a result of negligence?
Could it possibly have been premeditated?
If premeditation, was it altruistic, custody battle, some other reason?

Anonymous said...

What a messy and confusing interview.

Nic said...

tania said:

If it wasn't accidental, was it as a result of something else happening, another crime perhaps?


I think it was neglect and death due to one of two scenarios: drowning or drugs (ingestion).

If there was a baggie of drugs and they were colourful, DeOrr might think they were candy and if left to his own accord might have eaten them.


Nic said...

tania said:
She is asked "are you are telling us you had nothing to do with the disappearance"

Her reply is NO

By replying no, she disagrees with his statement that she was not involved.
By saying no, she tells us she is involved.

What she should have said was Yes. I had nothing to do with DeOrr disappearing.
I did not harm DeOrr.
I did not Kill DeOrr
I do Not know where DeOrr is.


Good analysis, tania. I agree. She is not listening to the question. She is only interested in denying any involvement.

Regards to the question about disappearance.

There are two parts to that day in question. DeOrr's death and then the secreting of his body.

Who hauled what? Rhetorical. :0)

Nic said...

Part 1

Yesterday I took Weston to Amanda’s gravesite for the first time. I thought it fitting to begin a new Mother’s Day tradition with him. Needless to say it was very painful. Her headstone wasn’t set yet, and He certainly didn’t understand what I was trying to tell him. But I wanted him to know more about his mommy. While she was pregnant with Weston, Amanda wrote me a long Father’s Day note entitled, “Weston, I Want to Tell You about your Daddy”. Yesterday I got to read him a note I recently wrote about his mommy:

Weston, I want to tell you about your mommy. I’m sure I could write everything there is to know about her, but there wouldn’t be enough libraries to fill the books required to describe how incredible she was. So I’ll try to summarize.

Your mommy was beautiful. I know you get to see pictures and videos of her, but you have to believe me, pictures in no way do her beauty justice. No amount of camera angles combined would have been able to capture the many facets of her charm. When she would walk into a room everything got brighter. There was something about her smile and those crystal blue eyes, softly inlaid next to her smooth rosy skin. You have her eyes, son. You have her skin. I see her in your smile. As you grow up I know there will be something magnetic about you because of your mommy. She had that. There was something in her beauty that was most certainly beyond the surface level and yet oozed out of her for everyone to notice. It was the kind of beauty that made every man take notice. It was the kind of beauty that made every woman angry and envious. She was radiant.

Your mommy was diligent. You may wonder why every night around 8pm you get really sleepy, why every morning you wake up at 8am on the dot, ready to take on the world, why every afternoon at 1pm you’re asking to go “night-night.” Your mommy and I read a book that helped us learn how to direct healthy sleep and feeding patterns for you. Even when it was tough and exhausting, she followed the plan. She would get up with you in the middle of the night. She would cuddle with you and sing to you when she could barely keep her eyes open. She remained patient with you when you didn’t want to feed. She was determined. She always had your future health in mind for you even from the beginning.

Your mommy was nurturing. This is why you love to cuddle. One of your favorite things to do with mommy (and her favorite too) was to fall asleep on her shoulder or chest. She would rock you back and forth until whatever was ailing you subsided. She fostered your love for books, and I’m so glad she did! This is why you love to sit down and read with daddy! Countless hours in the day were spent looking through books with mommy, your eyes darting back and forth from the pages to her lips as she read them aloud to you.

Your mommy was tough. She had really thick skin and not much bothered her. She and I would run and workout a lot together and each time I was always impressed with how gritty she was. I see her toughness in you. She wasn’t afraid to take risks. She wasn’t afraid to try and fail. She wasn’t afraid of much at all.

Although she was tough, your mommy was also tender-hearted. She loved people. Her heart broke for what breaks God’s heart. When people hurt, she hurt with them. I watched her hug people, pray with people, and cry with people. The last couple weeks of her life she talked a lot about us fostering kids. I didn’t understand why she was so urgent about it since we were pregnant with your baby sister. But I loved to see how her heart broke for these kids who didn’t have an opportunity to have a loving family. That’s all your mommy wanted to provide for you, buddy. She wanted you to have a family that could love you into loving Jesus.

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Part 2


Your mommy was wise. She may have been young, but her youth didn’t inhibit her from wisdom. Everyone would come to her for advice. People used to confide in her. She didn’t speak much, but when she did wisdom dripped from her words. She loved God’s Word and made it a regular habit to memorize it. She would want more than anything for you to fall in love with God’s Word and make it the anchor for your life.

Your mommy was confident. She is the only woman I have ever met who was completely secure with who she was in the Lord. Confidence exuded from her. It wasn’t the type of confidence that made you nauseous to witness. It was the type that made you want to be friends with her, so that maybe some of her confidence would wear off on you. Sure, like everyone else, she battled with her insecurities, but she made it a practice to lay those insecurities at Jesus’ feet and trust what He said about her rather than what the world said about her.

Your mommy was poised. One of my favorite things to do was greet her as she came through the door at church every Sunday with you on her hip. It didn’t matter how rough that morning may have been getting herself and you ready, she never showed signs of stress. She took every curve ball life threw at her in stride and she embraced the twists and turns in the journey. You never saw her freak out over menial things. She made it a practice to trust God’s truth in her life over her feelings.

Your mommy was surrendered. She prayed everyday that God would do something great in and through her. She wanted to be used as a vessel for His kingdom. When you were born, she made a sign that hung over your rocking chair. It said “For the rest of his days he will be given over to the Lord.” That’s how she felt about you. From day one she knew Jesus was going to do something great in your life. She knew He was going to use you for a monumental assignment for His Kingdom, so she surrendered you to Him. She always held things in an open hand. I found a book on generosity on her side table as we were packing up her stuff. Even to her last breath, she was learning how to be more surrendered and more giving with her life.

Weston, you need to know your mommy was brave. When you get older you’re going to have lots of questions about what happened the morning she was killed. I know it up-ended your world as much as anyone’s. She walked you upstairs the night before, sang to you, prayed with you, kissed you and tucked you into bed. And that was the last time you saw her. I know it is really difficult without her, buddy, but you should know she would have done anything to protect you. She loved you more than life itself. I found a quote on her phone that read, “Sometimes your greatest assignment in life isn’t what you do, but who you raise.” She embraced that assignment to the fullest extent. She gave her life so you could have yours. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt she did what she had to do that morning to protect you. She loved you that much.

Your mommy was completely perfect. She was perfect for me and perfect for you. There isn’t another like her. I know today doesn’t seem as difficult for you as each successive Mother’s Day is going to seem, but I want you to know The Lord isn’t going to let you go without a plethora of “mommies” in your life. There are many women that love you and loved your mommy. They’re going to tell you all about her as you get older. And one day we’ll get to see mommy again. We’ll get to play with her in the park again and soak up the heavenly sunshine. And on that day you’ll get to give her a big hug and kiss and wish her Happy Mother’s Day.