Friday, July 28, 2017

Domestic Violence Accusation: Gurbaksh Chalal

Allegations: A man stands accused of battering his intimate partner in a particularly violent incident. The police allege 117 acts of violence in a 30 minute video.

CEO Gurbaksh Chahal

This was submitted by a new analyst in training and is rich with information to study. 

Exercise: Here are some things to focus in upon.  

Beyond the "reliable denial" we can note the following: 

1.  The sermon 

A "sermon" in statement analysis is considered an unnecessary moral lesson.  When such is given we always note the importance of them when they are unnecessary. 

For example, stating that one is "against Domestic Violence" is something that does not need to be said; unless...

it needs to be said by the subject. This is most often projective in nature.  

2.  Victim status

We note victim and linguistically victim-by-proxy status within a subject's statement.  
How many "victim cards" can you spot here?

3.  Human Empathy 

Do we find empathy for the victim here? 

Where do we find sympathy?

4.  Minimization

Look for not only minimization, but distancing language and passivity.  

5.  Tangent 

Note where the subject moves away from the allegation and why he moves 

6.  Personality Traits

We seek to learn the dominant personality traits. 

a  This is good for those who wish to familiarize themselves with the language of narcissism.  

b.  Signals of Manipulation are part of personality traits and are important, especially in D/V cases. 

Statement Made Nn Social Media By Accused:

Can You Handle the Truth?
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Right now there are many people calling for my head. I am the recipient of death threats and hateful language aimed not just at what I was accused of, but attacking me for my ethnicity, my social class, and even my gender. Many would gladly lynch me based because of my origin — and not the facts of my case.
I know that I cannot change the minds of those who choose to hate me without cause — and base their hate only on the misrepresentations they have read, but I hope that others will be open minded and give me the opportunity to tell my story and paint a broader and very different picture.
Before I begin, I want to make it abundantly clear that I abhor violence of any kind, most especially against women. I created a foundation to fight hate crimes. I consider intimate partner violence and domestic violence in that same category.
I was charged with 45 felony counts of domestic violence. All of those charges were dropped, and ultimately the case settled when the DA’s office recognized they had no case and offered me a misdemeanor plea. I accepted that plea, because after a lot of soul searching I believed I was acting in the best interest of my company, my employees, my customers, my family, my friends and my investors.
I fully understand the outrage of those who believe I got off “lightly” as asserted by numerous postings on social media sites. But the $500 fine I agreed to pay, the equivalent of a speeding ticket, is simply what those misdemeanors require, and in no way reflects the toll that this ordeal has exacted on me. There can be no dollar value placed on the pain and suffering I have caused my family and friends, my employees and customers my investors, and everyone else who has looked up to me in the past. The humiliation and shame I feel is immeasurable. The dollar cost to my business and my reputation is incalculable.
I could have spent another year fighting the charges against me, which I truly wanted to do for my family’s sake. I would have prevailed in this fight because the allegations by police against me were overblown and grossly exaggerated. They made good press, but quite literally, they did not hold up in court.
I want you to know that this is not an excuse. I know that intimate partner violence is never excusable under any circumstances. I recognize that my temper got the better of me, and I will regret that for the rest of my life. But there is a difference between temper and domestic violence, and the truth of what actually happened is no where close to what the police claimed nor anywhere near what the online chatter and pundits are now making it out to be. I have two sisters, a niece and a mother. I love them all to death, and would never want any harm to ever come their way.
The situation that resulted in my legal case began when I discovered that my girlfriend was having unprotected sex for money with other people. (She testified to this in her interviews with the cops.) I make no excuse for losing my temper. When I discovered this fact and confronted my girlfriend, we had a normal argument. She called 9-11 after I told her I was going to contact her father regarding her activities. And yes, I lost my temper. I understand, accept full responsibility and sincerely apologize from the bottom of my heart for that. But I didn’t hit her 117 times, injure her, or cause any trauma as the UCSF medical reports clearly document. This was all overblown drama because it generates huge volumes of page views for the media given what I have accomplished in the valley.
The tape in question that was thrown was also bullshit. If anything, it actually made the SFPD look bad because they violently assaulted me as I opened my door despite my being fully cooperative.
The girl in question here, was herself so appalled by the false allegations made by the police, that she agreed to be photographed to demonstrate that there were no bruises or injuries. She could have left my apartment at any time during the argument. She felt safe and chose to stay. Those pictures she agreed to take would have been entered into evidence had my case proceeded, and they would have proven that the police claims were egregiously misleading.
Celebrities in sports, entertainment and business, and high net worth individuals in general are all potential targets. It was only a matter of time when I would fall prey.
I have to accept that many will still want to hate me no matter what I say to bring clarity to my legal case which is now over. But the fact of the matter is that they are jumping to conclusions based on falsified allegations. My case could not have settled in the way that it did if the allegations were true. Trust me, the DA’s were like a pack of rabid dogs coming after me. If they had a case, they would have stuck with it.
I only hope for two things: first that people who I work so hard to inspire are not discouraged by the false allegations and blogosphere spins, and, secondly, I hope others who are not in my shoes — and who have jumped on the bandwagon of criticism against me after the conclusion of my legal proceedings — will be open minded and give me the opportunity to tell them the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I apologize to my family, my friends, employees, my customers and my investors all who have suffered from this bad publicity related to my personal matter. I have learned a lot from this experience, and I will continue to grow. As CEO of RadiumOne, I vow to make it a hugely successful company, a great place to work, and a wonderful partner in the community.
I’ve always wanted the best for others. I have been a tireless fighter against hate crimes through my Foundation, and a huge supporter of education through my scholarship funds. What I am proudest of in my success thus far in life is that I have created jobs and opportunities for people, while building commerce and strengthening our community. Actions speak louder than words, and it is these actions, not the false allegations and spins that you might have read through these various blogs shine light on my real character, on the person I truly am and always want to be.
What is the American Dream? That you can come from nothing and make something of yourself not once, not twice but three times, only to have all of it come crashing down from misinformation, that is spun wildly out of control into the world of make believe and then goes viral into the blogosphere. We need to hold on to the American Dream, and reject those who would rather make it a nightmare.

Our Founding Fathers believed in the dream, why not the bloggers.


Anonymous said...

Did anyone else have to stop and take a breather in the middle of that garbage?

Laura said...

"I did not hit her 117 times"

Did he hit her 120 times?

He suffers from "humiliation and shame". Poor him. Interesting all he does is brag about himself in no way presenting himself as a person cowering in shame.

"the allegations are true" Embedded confession?

No mention of the victim, her feelings, effects on her....just his investors and blah blah.

Reversal of reality: He calls himself "prey". Yeah OK he's rich, good-looking, successful, probably the apple of his Mummy and Daddy's eyes...just the kind of weakened, downtrodden sheep that wolves seek to prey on.


What did he do?

Anonymous said...

Interesting article in New Yorker about this case.

It just goes to show it is what is on the inside that counts, not money, looks, success etc It also seems he is lying about having been bullied in school
bc of his turban and poverty from reading his exchanges with Oprah (Im curious if anyone agrees with my impression that he is lying).

He sounds like a SPOILED BRAT!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

It looks like he had good dental care for someone supposedly living in poverty in a 3rd World country. Also why would he have been wearing a turban? Was he a Sikh? Geez, the town I grew up in was white as Wonder bread but there was one guy prob 4 yrs oldsr than me who had a big beard with a turban--noone said jack squat to him to put him down or even looked at him funny.

Anonymous said...


Craig Rideout Murder Case

I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the case below. There is a summary in the first link and an interview with the only person aquitted of the four that were tried.

ima.grandma said...

order and changes in order are important indicators

I believed I was acting in the best interest of:
#1 my company, 
#2 my employees, 
#3 my customers, 
#4 my family, 
#5 my friends and 
#6 my investors. 

There can be no dollar value placed on the pain and suffering I have caused :
#1 my family,
#2 my friends,
#3 my employees 
#4 my customers,
#5 my investors, 
#6 everyone else who has looked up to me in the past.

So does he believe his company (not listed) didn't suffer or felt pain?
or does it mean his company is now "everyone else who has looked up to him in the past?"

I apologize to:
#1 my family, 
#2 my friends, 
#3 my employees, 
#4 my customers 
#5 my investors 
#6 all who have suffered from this bad publicity related to my personal matter.

So does he believe he doesn't need to apologize to his company (not listed again) or does it mean his company is now "all who have suffered from this bad publicity related to my personal matter?"

Anonymous said...

Just my thoughts...

"But I didn’t hit her 117 times, injure her, or cause any trauma as the UCSF medical reports clearly document."

1 - There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost when a medical professional lies, especially in such a magnitude. That is why they are so trusted. Medical professionals are trained to work objectively and without prejudice.

2 - They "clearly document" the injuries because that is what they saw. Medical professionals are not involved in the case, the apprehension of a suspect or any other facet of an investigation except where such involvement is necessary to determine cause of death or injury.

3 - a bruise doesn't necessarily show up immediately. Depending on the length of time between beatings and medical attention, he may have only hit her 100 times this time, and the other 17 are residual from yesterday's battery.

4 - Why settle if you are so sure that you could have won?


Akula said...

"I have two sisters, a niece and a mother. I love them all to death ..."


ima.grandma said...

Victim blaming:

The situation that resulted in my legal case began when I discovered that my girlfriend was having unprotected sex for money with other people. (She testified to this in her interviews with the cops.) I make no excuse for losing my temper. When I discovered this fact and confronted my girlfriend, we had a NORMAL argument. 

"She called 9-11 after I told her I was going to contact her father regarding her activities. And yes, I lost my temper."

I can hear him telling her "it's your fault I'm hitting you because you called 911. We would just be having a NORMAL argument if you wouldn't have 911'd me." So he didn't hit her because she was having unprotected sex for $, but because she dared to report him (his foremost thought was "protect my reputation.")

An analogy:
During a particularly violent late night of domestic violence, a husband is beating his wife and children. The eldest child climbs out the window to knock on the neighbor's door for help, the neighbor does not want to get involved. The father discovers this and the violence escalates with the reason being that the child could have gotten the cops called on him and now the neighbors will know. "Therefore, you deserve this because it's all your fault"

Anonymous said...

The charges were that he kicked her 117 times.
WHY did they reduce charges to misdemeanor? I would like a legal explanation for this that makes sense. My Mind is already exhausted from the absurdity of LE taking 4 innecessary years to arrest Mark Redwine.

Also, using SA I believe Gurbaks may have been forcing his wife to sleep with men for momey (to give to him) and the brutal attack ensued when his wife was either not paid or she used the money to go somewhere or buy something she wanted. Mr.Moneybags was probably giving her a small allowance to get through the week. Garbaks looks gay so that would work out for him best as she would attract men, he could earn money off of her suffering (gay men have all sorts of fetishes and that is a major one that they get aroused from having sex w a man while looking at the mans wife. I think Garbaks ('ll just call him Garbage) couldnt resist making more money by forcing his wife to sleep with men probably while he hid in a closet and watched. And isnt that what s pimp does is beat the crap out of their women when they dont hand over the prostitution momey or they dont get paid. I hope "Garbage" rots on hell!!!!!!!!"

Karl said...

"my legal case which is now over"

He sure wants to bring a lot of attention to himself over something so shameful, after it was over. He likens himself to the rich and famous and concludes that it was only a matter of time before he would be targeted. I feel grateful to him that he is willing to put up with the consequences of success, so the rest of us don't have to.

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
Did anyone else have to stop and take a breather in the middle of that garbage?
July 28, 2017 at 1:21 PM

I did.


tania cadogan said...

off topic

A TEENAGE girl who ran into a church covered in blood and half naked claiming she had been “gang raped by three black men” is being indicted after admitting it was an elaborate HOAX.

Breana Harmon Talbott, 18, entered the place of worship wearing only her underwear and a shirt with cuts on her body, alleging two black men raped her while a third suspect held her down.

But cops began to doubt her story when doctors could find no evidence she had been sexually assaulted.

Talbott later admitted the whole incident on March 8 was staged and her wounds were self-inflicted.

Police in Denison, Texas, USA, where she claimed to have been attacked, said yesterday that Harmon has been charged with two counts of tampering with physical evidence and two counts of tampering with a government record.

In a statement police chief Jay Burch said: “Breana Harmon Talbott’s hoax was also insulting to our community and especially offensive to the African-American community due to her description of the so-called suspects in her hoax.

“The anger and hurts caused from such a hoax are difficult and all so unnecessary.”

Three of the charges are felonies and carry a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison in addition to a maximum fine of $10,000 (£7,600), according to Grayson County District Attorney Joe Brown.

Two charges of tampering with physical evidence stem from two interviews where officials say that Harmon knowingly gave false reports, reported the Herald Democrat.

Police are also planning to recoup $8,000 (£6,000) costs for the investigation, which has now been closed.

Talbott’s former fiancĂ© Samuel Hollingsworth had reported her missing on March 8 at around 5.30pm, after he found Talbott’s car abandoned in a parking lot with the “driver’s door open and her phone, keys and a shoe nearby”.

As police started to hunt for the troubled teen, she turned up at a local church bleeding, claimed to have been kidnapped by three African American men who snatched her from her home.

Saul Marquez, the pastor at the New Creation Church where Talbott was found, described her condition to KDFW-TV.

He said: “She was in bad shape. She was bleeding. They had to bring some sheets to cover her up and try to calm her down.”

She told cops that “three black males’, who were wearing ski masks, drove her in an SUV to woods where they raped her.

But within days, police said that they began to doubt her story as they found the alleged kidnapped scene to the point of her condition appeared “staged”.

But Chief Burch said: “Almost from the beginning, we had doubts in Breana Harmon Talbott’s story as the puzzle pieces just weren’t coming together.

“We were unable to corroborate any of Talbott’s allegations that she had been abducted or sexually assaulted.”

Her motives for staging the bizarre hoax and lying to police remain unclear.

Akula said...

Deceptive by structure: Rather than the expected 25/50/25 for a truthful statement, this one comes in at approx. 38/15/45.

Change in Language: Girlfriend to Girl. Although appropriate that his language changed he continued to refer to her as “my girlfriend” even after becoming aware that she was having “unprotected sex, for money, with other people.” What changed? His language toward her changed when she called the police. That is interesting to me.

Denial: “But I didn’t hit her 117 times, injure her, or cause any trauma as the UCSF medical reports clearly document.” Unreliable. His statement is too specific in certain terms and too broad in others. As another poster mentioned, 117 times is very specific. Perhaps he hit her a few more time or a few less, perhaps he considered some of them slaps, perhaps he just pushed her. He also links the UCSF medical report with “as” and would be highlighted in blue.

Just interesting: “She called 9-11 after I told her I was going to contact her father regarding her activities.” Nobody calls the emergency number 9-11. Everyone calls it 911. I would be interested in why he chose to write it that way.

ima.grandma said...

Akula said
Just interesting: “She called 9-11 after I told her I was going to contact her father regarding her activities.” Nobody calls the emergency number 9-11. Everyone calls it 911. I would be interested in why he chose to write it that way.

I thought so too. When I read it, my mind immediately flashed to the NYC buildings.

CptKD said...

And now his 'Probation' has been potentially VIOLATED for 'kicking' Another Woman ...
Which means it appears that 'IT' may now be revoked & His Wealthy A$$ is headed off to Jail!!

Let 'Liars' Lie where they Will!
Or in the least,
WHERE they should ...

ima.grandma said...

major personality characteristics of writer:

The writer is the instigator and the issues are centered around him and his behaviors including grandiosity, paranoia, rage, arrogance, lack of empathy, the inability to forgive, and his demands for appreciation, adulation, and compensation.

authoritarianism: He probably causes conflict wherever he goes through aggression and rigidity exhibited in authoritarianism (evidenced by his threat to call victim's father.) He prides himself on being a leader, "master of the universe," "king of his castle?"

Anonymous said...

1st paragraph-he is the victim and that's why he formed a foundation, because lynchings occur only within his race.
2)His masterpiece on a blank canvas
3)The charges were dropped implying they must have been bogus not that the VICTIM chose not to go forward for reasons unknown buy implied (lastly...investors)
4)The pain and suffering to his family name is more important than filling the room with uppercuts.
5)Her family name will be slurred because she is a whore and will be beaten more once at home.(Protected sex for money may be different)
6)Its all a lie because it was reduced to misdemeanor charges and the police who were called by the victim actually assaulted him making HIM the victim (refer to first paragraph as this may be where he inserts his thesis statement)
7)Trust him and not the rabid dogs of society (let freedom ring!
8)Our founding fathers believed in a dream

"Action Speaks Louder than Words"

That's the best wording in that load of horsehockey, but it is the only truth. If he was filming beating the crap out of his girlfriend or girl, those actions are what others saw and his load of campaigning for class president is WAAAy too late!

ima.grandma said...

ima.loving this:)
... his load of campaigning for class president is WAAAy too late!
Thanks for the smile

Anonymous said...

I skimmed the New Yorker article. Oprah is shameless in the way she considers herself an enlightened deity yet she WORSHIPS money, fawning all over "Garbage" bc he has a lamborghini. WHO CARES OPRAH! Yes Oprah so glad you started your own cracker jack religion based on a retarded watered down New Agey belief that our THOUGHTS create OUR REALITY. Oprah's BELIEF SYSTEM does not allign with any known religion, and to any religion it most closely resembles cherry picks and eliminates major factors like KARMA, EVIL, ETC THAT EFFECT EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR OPRAH WHO CONTROLS REALITY WITH HER THOUGHTS.
Oprah's belief is based on a Course in Miracles which CONDENSES reality to a SIMPLE 2+2=4 equation where if you BELIEVE SOMETHING IT WILL HAPPEN, and interestingly believing you will be wealthy and getting wealth seems to DELIGHT OPrah more than anything even though this directly CONTRADICTS the beliefs of MOST KNOWN RELIGIONS AND ANYTHING JUDEO-CHRISTIAN. Oprah one time blamed a domestic violence victim for being shot in the head (and surviving), self-righteously saying to the DV VICTIM as she sat there disfigured, "That is what you get when you give your power away" after the victim had described laying in bed with her baby when the attacker had crawled into bed with her and started becoming violent. Oprah is so TRASHY, and WORSHIPS WEALTH. I used to read her O Magazine and in the section Oprah's Picks there would be mumdane household items like a napkin holder that costed $1,100. Oprah is one of the most EVIL people on TV WHO ACTUALLY HAS HER OWN RELIGION SHE SPREADS WHICH RESEMBLES "WORSHIP OF THE SELF AND MONEY" AND IT DOES NOT ALLIGN WITH ANY KNOWN RELIGION.


Anonymous said...

"Before I begin, I want to make it abundantly clear that I abhor violence of any kind, most especially against women. I created a foundation to fight hate crimes. I consider intimate partner violence and domestic violence in that same category."

He can't even say: "I abhor violence against women". I guess there is a level beneath "unreliable denial".

Anonymous said...

Most especially qualify women

He "considers" DV in the category as hate crimes; bad tempers aren't in that category.

Anonymous said...

There is a unique type of obscenity to Oprah implying that a child dying of starvation because he or she created that reality with her thoughts while Oprah extoles the virtues of a $1,100 napkin holder & THE MASSES FOLLOW ALONG SALIVATING OVER OPRAH'S "WISDOM". I dont claim to be a smart person, many brain cells have been lost, sleep dep, anxiety disorder, PTSD ETC BUT THAT IS JUST SO FRIGGIN STUPID HOW MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS DO NOT SEE THE GLARING AND DISGUSTING FLAWS IN OPRAHS "BELIEF SYSTEM".

Anonymous said...

"Nobody calls the emergency number 9-11."

Wrong. I've seen it written that way, because people are dumb regarding grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc. Somr people write it as 9-1-1.

Needless to say, those who write it as 9-11 are wrong. People also say "your" when they mean "you're." I could go on, but it's monotonous.

But I am a robot! said...

Some people do refer to the USA emergency system as 9-11, although it was more common before the infamous Sept. 11, 2001.

It's generally discouraged because a panicked young child or new visitor to the states could be confused and unnecessarily delay emergency response looking for the "11" key on the phone.

Peter Hyatt said...

Oprah's use of the air conditioned car and office are also killing polar bears.

Anonymous said...

Good point,Peter!

Those whose life is focused on AC units cause more PTSD, anxiety, sleep deprivation and untimely deaths than anything Oprah and all the TV personalities could dream up for an alt-philosophy.

Anonymous said...

Lol point taken....I still do not like her...her viewpoints are deeply offensive bc that id EXACTLY what she believes is that evrry person's "beliefs" create their reality...spunds great until one is faced with a starving Ethiopian child...Did that child believe that he or she should not have food to eat & that created the famine? Talk about victim blamimg! WOW!!!

Oprah puts herself on a pedestal claiming superior wisdom & sporitual knowledge for NO REASON except that she is good at interviewing celebrities.
Her focus is on EXTREME WEALTH & perhaps if you look in "O" Magazine--there is a pic of her on EVERY COVER, and look under the section "Oprahs Picks" and you will see MUNDANE householf items like a lemomade pitcher that costs $1,500...its literally retarded since Im sure 99.9% of her readers cant afford to buy any of that sh&t. And all of the items look exactly like the ones at WalMart that cost $4, so who is stupid? Oprah! For spending that much on that crap! Oprah could go buy herself another lamborghini if she didnt spend $10,000 on a lightbulb. VERY STUPID!

Anonymous said...

OK so can anyone hear interpret dreams? Like Ive been having dreams for like 2 YEARS every night that I am like lost in strange buildings, oftentimes a crappy party going on, usually I am not drinking in the dream and I dont know anyone or if I do like not well & dont know how I got there or how to get home & like sometimes I dont know where my car is if that is a factor, usually I just have NO IDEA how I got there. SUCKS! So doc put me on med for anxiety insomnia PTSD hypervigilance early onset sleep waking so like cool like last night I had a weird dream of kind of same thing going on, I am in a strange place with lots of rooms, dont know how I got there or why I am there dont know anyone but this time I am tired in the dream I lay down in a bed by myself try to sleep & all of a sudden someone is behind me like just hugging me but like in a joking around way like they are just being playful/horsing around but I cant see who it is & I am like "Who are you?" and it was him (?!) and then like Im like walking around and Im like "where am I?" and someone is like "Youre at his house he is having a party" but it was his old house I think and then I am trying to find my shoes & I cant, there are lots of shoes but I cant find mine & then I see him and I am hugging him & I am happy & then I kiss him for not that long bc something doesnt seem right & I look up & it isnt him anymore it is my ABUSIVE EX who I didnt like to kiss & then I go in the back yard and I go into this small tiny house I dont know why and there are like 1 or 2 other people there but it is too small and then I go back in house and I see him walking by & I hug him I hold onto him and everything is so confusing as to why do I have recurrent dreams of being lost in these weird places/buildings and like why would I see him & be happy but then he turns into my abusive ex and I feel horrified? What could these dreams be telling me?

Anonymous said...

Like this recurrent theme in my dream SUCKS! It may not sound like a nightmare and it really isnt but its like a feeling of being lost, disoriented, confused. I really think people take a huge psychological gamble staying in abusive relationships bc they cause a lot of emotional damage. That was weird that even when someone I have positive feelings for showed up in my "lost/disotiented" dream he turned into my ABUSIVE EX and then turned back into himself but still I dont get it...WHY do these dreams keep repeating? SO SUCKISH!!!! Its not like Im learning anything from them bc I dont get what they mean!!!

Anonymous said...

It just sucks so bad cause now I am remembering even back in school final year we had one (1) class together & the teacher was like the craziest but kinda funniest teacher ever and he never wanted to teach & all he did was tell us stories from Vietnam War and he would let me and "him" sit at same desk & talk & laugh & yes sometimes I emotionally tormented "him" but one day the teacher got frustrated cause the year was half over & he hadnt taught hardly anything and he got really angry at me at him for talking/laughing/me sitting on his lap in class etc & yelked at us & made me sit away from him several desks forward & then after I moved to the desk the teacher said "I feel kinda bad separating you two. Do you two act this way in all your classes?" And another student said "this is the only class they have together". And the teacher said "Oh I see they just need to get it out of their systems". And then he started talking to the class and being super spazzy & he's like "They love each other. I bet they'll get married some day." And then he said "He loves her. I see how he looks at her. He doesnt want to admit it though. No, he doesnt want her to know. I wonder why? And I think she loves him to. She hides it better though doesnt she. Yeah its a little harder to tell with her. I think she might have the same problem. She's very proud too isnt she? I think they both have the same problem. Theyre more alike than they think! Or does he think they're too different? What is that saying? Pride cometh before the fall. I wonder if he'll ever forget her? I wonder how long it will take for them to realize what they had? Will it take till they are 30? Oh with them it might take even longer huh? What if theyre married to other people by then? Are other people going to get hurt? What if by the time they realize it its too late? That would be sad. I hope that doesnt happen. I hope at they can at least be friends even when theyre married to other people." Oh and he also asked bith me and him our nationalities & he told him his nationalty & he said "Are you allowed to date people cause some people from your nationality are not" and he said "yes" & that was a lie...he was not allowed to date people ot go anywhere & his father was beside himself ranting in another language when he saw me with him & their house. It is just very sad. Thats what it is it is just sad I dont undersrand bc when the teacher was saying that stuff I was thinking "Yeah right you are so wrong none of thst stuff is going to happen he is not my type". What the hell? Did the teacher caste a weird spell I dont understand?!?!

Anonymous said...

Like was the teacher psychic cause how did he know all this stuff that would happen and emotional pain that would come? I thought he was off his rocker cause was the craziest teacher ever!

Alex said...

His focus is on self and money.
He doesn't give a proper social intro for his girlfriend.
"The situation that resulted in my legal case began when I discovered that my girlfriend was having unprotected sex for money with other people." What is he so angry about in this statement? Unprotected sex, sex for money or sex with other people. I believe he thinks she is only supposed to have unprotected sex for money with him so she will remain disease free so he can have risk free unprotected sex for money with her. He thinks he has paid her enough money to ensure her exclusivity. He has reduced her to prostitute status thereby allowing himself the right to treat her as property.


Anonymous said...

Alex, Why would a woman whose husband is extremely wealthy need to or want to sell herdslf for momey? If people here are so brilliant at SA, there should be more insight into what is really going on.
He is forcing her to sleep with men for money. He is a pervy gay guy who probably hides in a closet & watches abd then confiscates the money SO HE CAN PAMPER HIMSELF WITH MORE SHIT HE DOESNT NEED.
The CLUE lies in the word "unprotected". This is what angers him, NOT HER SLEEPING WITH MEN FOR MONEY (HE FORCES HER TO DO THAT".

Alex said...

I believe it is a form of victim blaming. He wants us to think he believes she is a prostitute. By assigning prostitute status to the victim he wants to minimize his responsibility because in his culture it is acceptable to beat a prostitute. I do not believe the victim is a prostitute. He did not say she was, so I won't either.


Anonymous said...

Alex, Yes it is a form victim blaming. I was troubled by the fact you wrote that he wanted to make sure she had disease free sex with HIM for money (arent you implying she is a prostitute with HER HUSBAND?)

On a separate note, it is amazing how often abusers PROJECT...this is something I learned while in an abusive relationship...oftentimes my abuser would spazz out on me accusing me of stuff, some of it strange, and lo and behold THAT WAS WHAT HE WAS ACTUALLY DOING!!! He actually didnt often accuse me of cheating on him often (although he did accuse me once of "making out with black guys" after me & my sister took a walk through a local park in broad daylight WHEN I WAS 6 MONTHS PREGNANT!!!?!?!
Who knows? Maybe he made out with a black guy?! Cause the accusation was bizarre & unfounded. HE WAS A NASTY PSYCHOPATH!!!! I generally assume NOW that anything an abuser says is PROJECTION. They all seem to love this technique--as it confuses & disorients the victim and causes the victim to have great difficulty carrying through with complaints about their abusers behavior.
Maybe "Garbage" has unprotected sex for money, and she found out! What better way to divert attention away from himself by accusing HER of being a prostitute. It is LIKELY HE HIMSELF IS A HOMO WHO TURNS TRICKS!!!!!!

Alex said...

"The humiliation and shame I feel is immeasurable."

Is this because you can't measure that which does not exist?


Anonymous said...

Good point Alex.

Dave Jones said...

Was my comment deleted, and if so, why?

Anonymous said...

The overwhelming amount of time he spends talking about his feelings and how he was victimized is what stands out to me. He is really unconcerned with the girlfriend on all points, aside from how it relates to *him* (ie, "she felt safe enough to stay with me."). He spends a lot of time talking about how tirelessly the police worked, yet were unable to come up with anything concrete.

He talks a lot about how important and successful he is.

The whole thing comes off as outrage that anyone would dare do this to him. And yeah, I read "I did not hit her 117 times" as way too specific. He could have stopped at "I did not hit her." Instead, the number was important enough to mention, so to me that says he's probably guilty.

What a bully.


Dave Jones said...

OK, again, I'll ask on what evidence are you basing your claim that this guy is a "fag" and a "homo who turns tricks"? There is plenty of evidence that the guy is abusive, but I've seen nothing indicating your claims are true, or that they're based on anything more than your own anger. Apparently you hate gay people and therefore label anyone you don't care for as gay.