Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Profiling from a Statement: What Do You Know About Someone?

What do you know about this subject from the following statement?  Put your analysis in the comments section as a profile emerges.  Stay within the statement, only.

Male or Female?
Age
Education
Employment
Situation in life
Background, history
Family logistics
Personality traits and so on..

"I'm not the first 39 year old grandpa in the United States, but I do enjoy my time with my grandson.  Having three grandchildren means three times the fun for anyone who loves their grandchildren the way I love my grandson.
Working at two jobs has always been hard.  You get off work at one hour, and barely get rest or right traffic, and you leave for the second.  You work two jobs because you love the work, but you also have bills to pay. Who doesn't, right?
I find that people who work two jobs are happier than those who don't, just like those who are too old to enjoy their grandchildren.
I think having a dog increases the quality of my life, but owning a cat increases your interest in animal behavior, far more than ownership of a dog. It is very different and this difference is best seen in day to day ways in which we all interact with our pets.  People who own cats are more social because cats are less social, meaning that there more social with people irregardless of how lonely that they are.

I love old movies.  Watch them often.  They are said to be better made by some than today's movies, though I think many people still think that special effects are more important than anything.
I do not like sports.  There is a certain violence people like.  When I came here I was surprised how violent fans are.
Who doesn't make mistakes, right?  Forgiveness goes a long way in forgetfulness.  Marriage is okay, I guess but when a man is single he is more fun to be around.
I'm popular, that is for sure.  Just ask anyone that knows me.  Quality time with a grandson means seeing him.  You have to see him in order to love, right?
10 years was a long time and long enough I think to forget and forgive. You learn a lot more from your mistakes that your success.  When those kind of people put restrictions on you it is hard to love any more.  You get blamed for things you had nothing to do with and family should be understanding and supportive of that, don't you think?
Stuff changes you.  It changed me.  You have to realize that when your young or your too late.  There blame on you is wrong headed. You miss people sometimes and wish they would miss you back. "

44 comments:

Tim Rice said...

He's bonkers.

Anonymous said...

This is a 39 year old single male who works a two jobs to keep busy and pay bills-one of which is at a sporting event as an usher, ticket taker, etc. A high school graduate that married young and produced children young, found he understands men much better than women.

He has three grandchildren, one of which is a male and the only one he mentions. Thus the reason to pay bills.

He is often blamed for things that aren't true-by women. Passed down by his ex, he still gets the blunt end of the deal.

He compares cats and dogs like men and women. People who have cats are more sociable...meaning no one talks to him at the dog park...especaily women.

Life is black and white to him. The good ole days were always better and he'd prefer to chop wood and live off the land with some other gents as mascualine as himself. Which is why he only mentions the grandson and it is slightly disturbing.

"There is a certain violence people like." His statement lends to the thought he has violent tendencies that aren't socially acceptable.

His visitation with his grandson is limited... "Quality time with a grandson means seeing him. You have to see him in order to love, right?"

Anonymous said...

...plus hes got a criminal conviction.

Anonymous said...

Without going into specifics about why I think this, here's my impression:

Male (grandpa)
Early 40s (became a grandpa at 39, presumably a little older now if he can interact with them)
Education: associates degree at most, likes to come across as intelligent-sounding but used "irregardless"
Employment: hates his jobs, tries to act like he doesn't. ("you love the work")
Situation in life: lower-income, divorced, not a great dad if he's a grandpa at 39 (judgmental but true); had kids at a very young age. has some serious gender biases and possible resentment toward women. Clearly wants a familial connection with his grandson but no one else.
Family logistics: estranged from family (lonely), or at least lots of tension in the family. Probably related to whatever criminal thing he did 10 years ago that no one seems to be forgiving him for. Likely committed a violent crime against another family member. He minimizes it and calls it a "mistake," which means he's incapable of taking responsibility for his own behavior.
Taking the statement as a whole, I think he committed a sexual crime against a child in the family, works to pay child support to his ex-wife and resents it, is uneducated and lower-income, and lives alone.

john said...

OT:

'Teen Mom 2' Jenelle Evans Shocking 911 Call! MTV Mom Lied About Not Calling Cops, Screams Heard On Tape During Bloody Fight!

Teen Mom 2 star Jenelle Evans has made it seem like on Twitter that it was the police's fault that her fiancé, Nathan Griffith was arrested for domestic abuse following their bloody fight. Now, the shocking 911 calls from the MTV star and a crew member paint a scary picture of the horrific incident.

In the audio tapes, obtained by Radar Online, Jenelle is screaming to the 911 operator that her "ex-fiancé" Nathan has taken her car keys and won't let her go to school.

Listen to them here:

"My ex-fiancé, he's sitting here, he took the car keys from me and I need to go to school tomorrow," the reality star is heard saying. "Both of our names are on the car. He doesn't even have his license and I can't take my son to school tomorrow."

"They have an officer coming to you because somebody has already called," the operator replied.

The situation between the MTV couple gotten even scarier when a member of the behind-the-scenes team for the reality series also called the police worried that a physical altercation was occurring.

"Send the police, there's a domestic abuse happening," the woman said, as a commotion was taking place.

"We are filming with a talent and the couple is fighting," the MTV staff member continued. "Please send the police right away. ... The fiancé is physically abusing his girlfriend."

The most terrifying part of the call was the fact that while Jenelle and Nathan were fighting, the crew couldn't get into their home.

"We were locked out of the house and we heard her screaming 'Get off of me, get off of me,'" the 911 caller went on.

"Ok baby I've got somebody on the way," the operator reassured her.

As MStars News reported, the mother-of-two seemingly blamed the cops for the blowup aftermath and even said she never called them in the first place!

"Funny thing is I never said he hurt me, never said he hit me. The police took over, I never called. Mind ur own business," the MTV mom tweeted.

A Reliable Denial (RD) consists of three components.

1. The pronoun "I"
2. The past tense verb "did not"
3. Event specific.

In this case we see the past tense verb substituted for the word "Never"

"Funny thing is I never said he hurt me, never said he hit me. The police took over, I never called. Mind ur own business,"

This is deemed unreliable. It's not to say that he (didn't) "Hurt" or "Hit" her. If she is not willing to say He (didn't) "Hurt" or "Hit" her we can't say it for her.

Note also the dropped pronoun.

"never said he hit me".

Her we see she will not take ownership of her statement using the first person singular "I". We know she can use it as above.

Then we have we have.

"He hurt me."

"He hit me".

This maybe a response to a question. If it isn't then this could be an embedded admission that it did happen ?

http://www.mstarz.com/articles/58370/20150318/teen-mom-2-jenelle-evans-shocking-911-call-lied-cops-screams-fight-mtv.htm

Sus said...

I began a long thing on this, then thought "heck with it." This is what I think.

-Male
-Became grandfather at 39
-Incarcerated 10 years
-Not model prisoner
-Separated from family and friends
-Resentful he has to work to dead end jobs
-Probably owes restitution to victim (grandson?)
-Not popular (no friends, doesn't socialize)
-No time for old movies
-Has a dog; wishes he had a cat. His convoluted reasoning is that a cat would ignore him and push him into socializing.
-Possibly an immigrant; or at least moved to large city from rural area or pacifist religion sect.
-Does not reach out himself; everything is within family structure. Which he has lost. Sees life as happening to him.
-He committed some crime to his family which caused his wife, possibly daughter?? to alienate him. He is not allowed to see his grandson.
-Is he actually the father to his grandson??

Jen Ow said...

I'm out and about so I'll be brief for now. My overall impression is that he has spent a significant amount of time in jail.

I'll explain why I think this when I get a chance!

GeekRad said...

Here's my profile based on his statement:
Male
Late 40's
Education- High school degree at the most
Employment- Blue collar job and works at a sporting events stadium
Situation in life- lives alone, few friends, does not like socialize but wishes he did
Background, he was in jail for 10 years
Family logistics- estranged from family, divorced
Personality traits and so on..wants to be liked and accepted, especially by woman. gets to see his grandson sometimes, therefore loves him, as apposed to no mention of love for his other two grandchildren that he is not allowed to see. He is being interviewed in connection to his job at the sporting event stadium.

Anonymous said...

He's 39 dammit. He said he was 39!

If he got someone pregnant at the age of 17, then he could very well have a child of four or five.

Polo said...

Age: 39
Gender: Male
I doubt he graduated high school.
Marital Status: single
Employment: restaurant worker, assembly worker
Family dynamics: Married more than once. Has multiple children, but only has a relationship with one (the one who has the grandson). Probably does not see enough of his grandsone due to the relationship with the child's parent. He doesn't see his other children and, hence, does not see his other grandchildren.
His is nostalgic. He longs for the past. Went to prison for 10 years. He may not have been good at sports or bullied when he played sports.

john said...

OT Update:

Atty: Turn over evidence or dismiss charges in Holly Bobo case

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/attorney-turn-over-evidence-or-dismiss-charges-in-holly-bobo-case/

notarobot said...

Male, 39, did not finish school, working two jobs. He has a grandson that he loves when he sees him. Working two jobs has been hard but he says it's because he loves the work and he has bills to pay.

Justifies that people who work two jobs are happier. He thinks having a dog increases the quality of his life but a cat makes him more social. He reasons out that because the cat is less social (with other cats, I'm guessing), the cat is thus more social with people?

He is not in a good place in his life, someone(or people/family) blames him for something that he's done but doesn't mention. He wishes for forgiveness as mistakes happen.

He's confident that he is popular. He is single at this point of his life, justifies that a single man is more fun to be around. He is regretful over some stuff that had happened, misses the times when he has people/family around. His relationship with his family has gone south for quite some time.

C5H11ONO said...

Sorry about OT:
http://universalfreepress.com/dissatisfied-man-sends-wife-horrific-sex-life-spreadsheet/

Interesting statement from the wife.

Deejay said...

Male or Female? Male
Age. 39
Education. High school, makes common grammar mistakes, has difficulty with logical flow.
Employment. 2 (mediocre) jobs
Situation in life. Lives alone, barely scraping by, some angry split in the family, old wounds, money is tight.
Background, history. Moved from elsewhere. Estranged from some family members.
Family logistics Divorced maybe married 10 years, maybe unfaithful, violent, or maybe committed a crime.
Personality traits and so on.. a bit optimistic, justifies things, a bit wistful for lost relationships, lonely.

C5H11ONO said...

He wasn't born in the US. "When I came here I was surprised at how violent fans are". I would say he was 39 when he became a grand dad, but is now older. He feels more for his grandson than the other "grandchildren", which must be girls. Maybe he abused the girls and that is why he is complaining about "quality time with a granson means seeing him. I think he did something to the girls, went to jail for 10 years and as a result hasn't seen his grandson because his daughter or son doesn't let him see him. He wants to be forgiven for his "mistake" therefore acknowledgeing he did something.

He says working at two jobs is hard, but didn't say he actually had two jobs. i think he's trying to get sympathy here but he is being deceitful. Having to work two jobs has "always" been hard would also imply that he doesn't have an education. He may be a high school dropout. He probably couldnt get a full time job because he doesn't have any marketable skills, so part time jobs is what he takes on, and then can claim having two jobs. Despite trying to come across as if he has two jobs because he loves his work, he demonstrates tension between one job and leaving to the other one. He doen't get what he deems rest. He hates to have to leave and go to the other job. He probably calls in sick at the second job often. He talks about being popular, which might make him a narcissist. He cheats in his marriages, that is why he considers it ok, but believes he is more fun as a single man. He considers himself to be a player. (I picture him with a mullet, why is that?)

Get Them said...

She's 49(ITS A WOMAN)Speaking about her SON.quotations NOT Statements.

Peter Hyatt said...

Accuracy is coming, piece by piece.

Polo caught the prison term!

He is not a 39 year old, and did not say that he was. Remember: listen to his words, and do not interpret.

He does have a desire to be seen as younger.

He is not allowed to see his grandson.

More to follow...

Peter

GeekRad said...

I am looking forward to the profile Peter!

Dane said...

Me too !!

Polo said...

His words sounded and felt like a man older than 39. As Peter pointed out, he was a grandfather, at 39 which does not mean he is 39. Excellent lesson.

tania cadogan said...

"I'm not the first 39 year old grandpa in the United States, but I do enjoy my time with my grandson.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
He starts off with a negative telling us he is not the first 39 yr old grandpa in the united states.
He is older than 39 since he doesn't tell us he is 39 especially since he has 3 grandchildren.
I think he may be an immigrant since he refers to the United States whereas a native born wouldn't need to add that extra bit of info taking it as a given.
The subject feels the need to include it making it sensitive to him.
BUT can refute what preceded it, or can be used to compare, or even negate what preceded it.
He gets into specifics of being a grandpa by saying he enjoys his time with his grandson.

Having three grandchildren means three times the fun for anyone who loves their grandchildren the way I love my grandson.
This is interesting.
He has told us he enjoys his time with his grandson (singular) yet now we learn he has 3 grandchildren.
He does not refer to enjoying time with all his grandchildren why?
It is likely the other 2 grandchildren are girls.
Note he distances himself from all 3 grandchildren showing closeness to only one, his grandson.
Why?
What did he do with his grandson that he did not or could not do with his grandaughters?
Three is the liars number(Mark McClish) although it doesn't always mean the subject is lying, it should be noted as a matter of course.
Here w have sensitivity in that he talks about 3 times the fun, with 3 times the fun for anyone who loves their grandchildren , referring to the number of grandchldren (plural) he has, yet he talks about others loving their grandchildren the way he loves his grandson (singular)
It is clear their are issues with the other 2 grandchildren, is this by choice, upbringing or something else?
he is focussed solely on his grandson, does whatever happened relate to his grandson?

Working at two jobs has always been hard.
There is no pronoun here so i cannot accept as fact that he has 2 jobs at the moment though he may have in the past.
Note the introduction of the article AT rather than the more common working 2 jobs, e he also uses the past tense HAS rather than the present tense IS.
He doesn't say he is currently working.

You get off work at one hour, and barely get rest or right traffic, and you leave for the second.
Note the pronoun used YOU rather than the ownership taking I.
He complains about barely getting rest and then introduces something strange, he talks about right traffic.
Was he often late for his 2nd job and he would blame the traffic?


Again we having distancing language where he tells us what we (you) would do rather than why he (i) would do it.
BUT can refute what preceded it, or can be used to compare, or even negate what preceded it.
He puts love the work first then negates it with the word BUT and then introduces bills to pay as his 2nd priority.
He then asks the question Who doesn't, right?
Who is he asking?
The interviewer or himself?
The jobs are likely low paid such as dishwasher, cleaner minimum wage if not less.
Is this due to immigration status, education or criminal record?

tania cadogan said...

I find that people who work two jobs are happier than those who don't, just like those who are too old to enjoy their grandchildren.
This is strange.
Most people would want to work just 1 job meaning they have more free time to spend with family and friends.
Did he work 2 jobs because it is social contact which everyone needs?
Working 1 job would , in his case, lead to time to reflect on his life and his loneliness?
Working 2 means he doesn't have the time to reflect on what might have been.
just like those who are too old to enjoy their grandchildren.
This confuses me, i don't see the logical connection.
He jumps from working 2 jobs to those who are too old to enjoy their grandchildren.
Is he comparing himself to the other grandparents who he thinks are too old to enjoy their grandchildren?
Grandchildren are sensitive to him this is the undercurrent running through his statement, why?
Will he reveal more about his relationship with his grandchildren , and presumably his children as he talks more?
Can grandparents ever be too old to enjoy their grandchildren?
What does he mean when he uses the word ENJOY

I think having a dog increases the quality of my life, but owning a cat increases your interest in animal behavior, far more than ownership of a dog.
He is a dog owner as he takes ownership and uses present tense.
We then have a change in language to owning a cat and lastly ownership of a dog. Is the change in language warranted by a change in reality.
He doesn't tell us he owns a dog, he has a dog.
Does this indicate he sees his dog as a friend or family member perhaps?
He tells us owning a cat increases your(our) interest in animal behavior more so than in a dog.
He doesn't tell us he is interested in animal behavior which leads me to think he is alone and his dog is his family/companion.

It is very different and this difference is best seen in day to day ways in which we all interact with our pets. People who own cats are more social because cats are less social, meaning that there more social with people irregardless of how lonely that they are.
Strange
Following his line of thought, as a dog owner therefore he must be less social.
He introduces loneliness, is this by choice or due to circumstances?

I love old movies. Watch them often. They are said to be better made by some than today's movies, though I think many people still think that special effects are more important than anything.
Was he asked a question to prompt this answer as it doesn't follow on from his previous discussion?
I love old movies.
This is a strong statement with him taking ownership.

Watch them often.
Dropped pronoun.
He perhaps doesn't watch them as often as he would like to.

They are said to be better made by some than today's movies, though I think many people still think that special effects are more important than anything.
I think he yearns for the old days when life was perhaps less complicated,when perhaps things he has done hadn't been done, when things were more black and white, good guy bad guy.
He points out that today's movies all seem to concentrate on SFX rather than having a good plot.
Plot holes being filled with an explosion.
This points to him also being older than 39.
39 i suspect was when he first became a grandad.

I do not like sports. There is a certain violence people like. When I came here I was surprised how violent fans are.

tania cadogan said...

Quality time with a grandson means seeing him.
We are now focused on his grandson rather than his 3 grandchildren.
Why does he not mention his grandchildren plural?
Did he do something to his granddaughters which precludes him from now having any kind of relationship with them?
It is as if they do not exist for him any longer.
Can he see his grandson but not his granddaughters?
Did he do something to his grandson (which would explain his fixation on him) and can no longer have contact with him?
I would be asking questions as to what happened between him and his granddaughters that he no longer sees them or even refers to them.
TO him, quality time means being able to see him, why not quality time by talking to him over the phone as well or skyping if distance is a problem?
You have to see him in order to love, right?
By implication, he does not see his granddaughters so he does not love them.
Is paedophilia rearing its ugly head??
Who is he asking, the interviewer or himself?
Can he not love his grandson if he cannot see him?
Grandparents love all their grandchildren whether they see them or not, this can be down to distance especially these days where families can live in different countries.
Is his grandson not allowed to visit him perhaps?
If not, is this because of something he did to his grandson?
How does seeing his grandson allow him to love him?
What is his definition of love in relation to his grandson?


10 years was a long time and long enough I think to forget and forgive.
Ah, now e are getting there.
He has done 10 years for a crime.
It sounds like it was close and personal since he remains fixated on his grandson and not his grandchildren (granddaughters)
It sounds like it was to with family since he feels 10 years is long enough to forgive him and forget what happened.
This links back to the grandson (since he only mentions him) and makes me think paedophilia.
Mentioning him is sensitive to him, by mentioning the grandson the family will remember and if they remember they cannot forgive.
If he doesn't mention him , he forgets him, the family forgets and by default, he feels they will forgive.

You learn a lot more from your mistakes that your success.
He doesn't take ownership of learning from his mistakes as he uses YOU rather than the expected I.
He is in denial and thus still a risk, in particular to boys.
His granddaughters and by default girls, are never mentioned
You also learn from your successes as well, though if you make a mistake there are consequences as he has seen.
What has he learned from his 'mistakes'?

tania cadogan said...

When those kind of people put restrictions on you it is hard to love any more.
Who are THOSE kind of people that he refers to?
LE, the family?
What kind of restrictions?
He is talking about the restrictions that come from a judge.
What kind of love does he refer to?
These is distancing, these is close,
He distances himself from the people who put restrictons on him.
He feels bitter about the restricions blaming them for him not being able to love anymore.
Look back though, he refers to being able to see his grandson in order to love him.

This again makes me think the restrictions are on him having contact with his grandson and possibly even with his granddaughters to a degree.
His love is dependant on him being able to physically be with his grandchildren, in particular, his grandson.

You get blamed for things you had nothing to do with and family should be understanding and supportive of that, don't you think?
Distancing language, he doesn't take ownership of his words.
He is in denial.
he doesn't doesn't tell us he got blamed for things he had nothing to do with, he uses the pronoun YOU.
He is bitter that the family didn't buy his denial, he feels they should have been on his side, supporting him and understanding him.
I wonder if he also abused non family members as well.
Dies he feel that perhaps he should have been believed over someone else, perhaps someone younger?
He is resentful and expects pity.
No doubt he blamed his victim.
He finishes with a uestion, who is he asking, the interviewer or himself?

Stuff changes you. It changed me.
What does he mean by stuff?
He avoids mention of anything specific.
How did the stuff change him?

You have to realize that when your young or your too late.
Again he doesn't take ownership using the pronoun YOU.
Is he blaming youth on what he did?
Is he blaming the fact he was caught on he was too late to stop or change something?

There blame on you is wrong headed.
He is in denial of his crime, it is all their fault.
I wonder if he blamed his victims for what he did to them?

You miss people sometimes and wish they would miss you back. "
People is generic, does he miss someone or some people in particular?
He only misses hem sometimes, when does he miss them?
What does he miss abou them?
Again he uses the distancing pronoun YOU rather than the expected I.
Does he really miss people or only a certain type of person?
Would him using the pronoun I instead of YOU and referring to a certain person or group of people reveal something sensitive, perhaps in relation to his crimes?

He doesn't say he wishes they missed him.
Does he accept , even internally, that they do not miss him nor will they due to what he has done.
is this perhaps regret or just more self pity?

tania cadogan said...

Male or Female? male

Age i would say 50's

Education secondary school(remember i'm a brit) so left age 15-16 little or no qualifications

Employment low paid jobs such as cleaner, dishwasher, oddjob man, no skills to speak off and restricted due to his crimes

Situation in life possibly not long out of prison, possibly in a halfway house due to crime, bitter and resentful about the restrictions placed on him

Background, history Immigrant possibly Mexico or South America, maybe even Cuba,

Family logistics divorced, no relationships,little to no family contact especially with his grandchildren, particularly his grandson

Personality traits and so on.. self pity, loner although not by choice, rather a consequence of his crimes.
Should he find someone they cannot have children as he would not be allowed near them
Feels the need to tell us he is popular, he may have been when in prison and may well be with others in his situation.
By claiming he is popular he minimises the effect his criminal history has on others.
Knowing he is a paedophile doesnt stop him being popular ( this would lead me to ask who he is in contact with)
In denial about his crimes leads me to suspect he either denied outright , minimised or even went so far as to blame his victims(s)
Thinks he should have been believed over his grandson and the family should always support him.
Expects his family to forgive and forget ( is this in order to renew contact with his grandson)
Will likely offend again particularly boys, he is still obsessing about his grandson , (his granddaughters do not exist to him although he admits to haveing 3 grandchildren)
Has a dog for companionship since dogs are loyal and do not question ( cats have staff and always seem to know what someone is thinking and are regarded as judgemental whilst dogs are seen as dumb)
perhaps also for protection since paedophiles are not welcome anywhere.
Probably works evenings and night shifts and sleeps during the day so he doesn't have to be seen in public and thus judged)
Is restricted on who he can contact family wise and he resents this, to his mind once he has done his time, the family should forgive and forget and move on, allowing him contact again with his grandson.
Lots of self pity along with anger, he does question himself probably as to how he got caught and how to lern from his mistakes (not getting caught next time)
Given the chance he will reoffend.
He talks about loving his grandson, love that can only come from seeing him which would imply a physical act not emotional love..
No age is given fro his grandchildren though since he says he became a grandad at 39 and he has since done a 10 stretch they would have been very young.
He doesn't see marriage in his future, again, who would marry a paedophile?
Marriage was ok to him, not good or amazing.
How long was he married, why the diorce?
Was it before or after he commited his crime?
he has convinced himself single men have more fun.
This may be true and what he tells others omitting the fact he is a paedophile.
it is all a front
He talks about love and refers to the restrictions placed on him making it hard to love any more.
This is very concerning as it implies that without the restrictions he would carry on 'loving ' as before.Does this refer solely to his grandson or are other boys at risk?
if he can't have one, he will make do?

tania cadogan said...

SHUT UP U EVIL COW said...

Tania your NOT Miss Marple!! Chomp some biscuits and shut up ffs!!!!!!


That would be cannibalism and it is frowned upon in polite society

Have a nice day anyway :)

Anonymous said...

Tania, he doesn't say he has 3 grandchildren... -Vicki

Skeptical said...

A sad, rueful man attempting to put a positive spin on an unhappy, disappointing life. He works long hours at low paying jobs. Has little time for a social life so he spends his free time alone watching TV, perhaps abusing drugs or alcohol to ease the pain.

He blames others for his circumstances. In particular the sentence."You get blamed for things you had nothing to do with and family should be understanding and supportive of that, don't you think?" This makes me think he was an accomplice in the crime he went to prison for. He doesnt't sound like he would be capable of planning and carrying out a crime, but would go along with someone else who did commit one.

He says he has learned from his mistakes yet blames others.

Anonymous said...

The way he loves his grandson= fun.

Anonymous said...

He does not say how old he is now. He doesn't say he has 3 grandchildren, but that 3 are 3x the fun for anyone. He doesn't say he has a job. It sounds like not having a cat is a reason he is not very social. His mention of violence is in close proximity to mistakes, forgiveness, and marriage so that's important. he loves old movies but doesn't watch them much. He was in prison for 10 years. Was it for DV in his marriage? And now he has restrictions because of it. he says 'you blame', 'they' blame. He takes no responsibility or blame himself. His grandson is likely an adult now and he missed enjoying his grandson growing up. He says there are 'those' who are too old to enjoy their grandchildren He is not popular...extra info on that.
He is a lonely, bitter, unsociable, and selfish old man.

Anonymous said...

--Vicki says:

He does not say how old he is now. He doesn't say he has 3 grandchildren, but that 3 are 3x the fun for anyone. He doesn't say he has a job. It sounds like not having a cat is a reason he is not very social. His mention of violence is in close proximity to mistakes, forgiveness, and marriage so that's important. he loves old movies but doesn't watch them much. He was in prison for 10 years. Was it for DV in his marriage? And now he has restrictions because of it. he says 'you blame', 'they' blame. He takes no responsibility or blame himself. His grandson is likely an adult now and he missed enjoying his grandson growing up. He says there are 'those' who are too old to enjoy their grandchildren He is not popular...extra info on that.
He is a lonely, bitter, unsociable, and selfish old man.

Sella35 said...
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Sus said...

Oh, I get the 39 comment now. Like holding at 39. So he could be much older. I'm betting in his 50's.

I also don't think he works two jobs. He drops the pronoun. He uses different ways to number them (one and second). He describes it out of order (lack of rest before right traffic). He uses the pronoun "you" throughout.

He displays a lack of empathy and really that people are for his use. He "enjoys MY time with MY grandson." His mention of marriage doesnt include a WIFE. He doesn't say a word about any children.

He takes no blame, and expects his family to forget and forgive ( in that order).

I agree with the poster above. His crime involves DV. He says people like certain violence. And that a single man is more fun to be around.

Anonymous said...

He is in his golden years, guessing +70's. He has been incarcerated a long time, which has led him to a lonely life, yet popular in prison with inmates. He went ten years without seeing his grandson... perhaps due to his grandsons parents not bringing him to visit.

He is speaking to someone who is younger, with 3 grandchildren.

He is talking to the younger man about how to handle life in prison both inside and outside with family.

"When I came here" could be into prison...he nevers says he was an immigrant to the USA or anywhere else. And prisoners can be violent.

GetThem said...

I'm going to post my answer and then go back and read the others.

This is a man who is 39 and references being a young grandfather 2 times.

He works two jobs, and did not go to college. He doesn't know how to spell the difference between: your and you're. He needs two jobs to pay his bills.

He is estranged from his wife and children for ten years. He has 3 grandchildren but only references his "grandson" without using his name. We don't know the ages of the grandchildren, but they are young.

He did something unforgivable because his family does not associate with him. He does not mention his wife... they are probably divorced or separated.

He talks about "loving" his grandson but we don't know his definition of "love". He gives no examples of ball games, or celebrating birthday or holidays. He mentions "seeing" his grandson to "show" love. But, saying "seeing" and "showing" are different then "spending time" or "hanging out" with his grandson. He doesn't mention showing love to other family members. He should be asked more questions to confirm sexual or physical abuse.

He talks about pets before he talks about any friends or friendships. He doesn't mention spending time with friends so we can't assume he does... and he sounds like a loner, watching a lot of TV and movies at home. He's a loner and works two jobs and says he is happy working a lot.

He is angry at his family for not forgiving him, but he does not say, or admit what he did wrong and he does not say he is wrong, or sorry for what he did in the past.

He doesn't like sports. It is difficult to find male friends that like to sit around in a house and watch TV. 40ish year old men don't do that...

He relates to cats and their standoffish behavior.

GetThem said...

These are my "walk away and come back the next day" thoughts:

Where a person starts is important and he starts with "I'm not the first 39 year old grandpa in the United States, but I do enjoy my time with my grandson.
- He starts in the negative.
- The math bothers me. I can't make it work for him to have 3 biological grandchildren. They must be step grandchildren.
- He is not originally from the US.
- He says: "...the first 39 year old grandpa...". He was/is a grandpa at 39.
- He says "I enjoy MY time with my grandson." He gets supervised visitation.
- Why is it in the negative? Is he 49 and talking in "the now" when remembering a time 10 years earlier?

Next he moves into saying: "Having 3 grandchildren means three times the fun for anyone who loves their grandchildren the way I love my grandson."
- He has three grandchildren, but he focuses on his grandson.
- "3x the fun for anyone who loves their grandchildren." HOW does he "love" his grandchildren.
- "The way I love my grandson." HOW does he "LOVES" his grandson.

Next he says: "Working at 2 jobs has always been hard. You get off work at one hour..."
- Is this sentence broken English or poor writing skills?
- He references "you" and not "I".

He states: "I love old movies. Watch them often."
- Dropped pronoun.

He states: There is a certain violence people like.
- "certain violence." Did HE use a "certain violence?"

Next: "Marriage is okay, I guess but when a man is single he is more fun to be around."
- He wasn't married when he came here.
- He says "marriage is okay" which means it was not. He did not enjoy his wife.
- He doesn't mind working 2 jobs, so he married not for money, but for access to grand children.
- He says "marriage is okay" in the present tense. Still married.
- "when a man is single" does not mean he is currently single.
- His wife is older since they are not his biological grand children.
- He does not have a relationship with his wife's children only his grandchildren.

It's odd when he says: "I'm popular, that is for sure
- He weakens it by saying "that is for sure."

He says: "Quality time with a grandson..."
- Switches to "a" grandson from "my" grandson. What caused the change.

He says: "You have to see him in order to love, right?"
- He only "love" his grandson when he "sees" him.
- Get his definition of "love."

He says: " When those kind of people put restrictions on you it is hard to love any more. You get blamed for things you had nothing to do with and family should be understanding and supportive of that, don't you think?"
- Who are "those kinds of people?"
- "You get blamed for things you had nothing to do with." He is in denial, but no reliable denial.
- Disputing grandson's story.

He ends with: "You have to realize that when your young or your too late" and "You miss people sometimes and wish they would miss you back."
- "when your (sic) young". He is not young now?
- He does not say HE misses people.
- Distancing language using the word people.

Don't forget to give un analysis please

mamacat said...

one more - he says "having 3 grandchildren means...blah blah blah" he doesn't say HE has 3 grandchildren.

mamacat said...

awwww man.... I spent a few days reading and rereading the original post and avoiding the other analyses before I finally typed a gosh-danged novel and posted it in two separate comments today. I'm new to this, so maybe I messed something up when posting, but they're both gone - waahhahahah! The first time I give it a go, lol. I'm so bummed. Anyway, now that I've read the other comments I see a lot of similarities and a lot of differences in what we all came up with, and I'm DYING to read the actual profile from Peter!!!

Peter Hyatt said...

He does not say he is 39 years of age.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

Please follow his language and do NOT interpret as you, an honest person, will interpret his words honestly. Deceptive people are counting on your honesty and your interpretation.

Note only what he affirms, using the pronoun "I" and past tense verbs.

Note when he attempts to persuade, or present, rather than report.

Peter

Anonymous said...

Age- Elderly, older
Education- High School
Employment - Retired
Situation in Life - in retirement home. Has something to do with pets there, the kind brought in to make them feel happy.
Background, history - Bad marriage, maybe no longer married. He is a grandfather. Does not have a good relationship with grandson or his family. His family has not forgiven him forsomething and puts restrictions on him.
Personality traits- Egotistical, wants people to think he's popular. Maybe he's in charge of the pets somehow and that's why he seems popular. He blames others for his mistakes. He is not easy to get along with. He wants to seem non-violent, loving, social and knowledgeable, but he is none of those things. He does observe behavior and interactions of others.

Jenn C. said...

Male
approx 49 or 50 y/o
H.S. education or equivalent but may be a reader.

Unemployed, may be living in a halfway house or some other kind of supervised, communal living situation where he sees himself as popular with the other residents and is allowed to choose a pet to care for...possibly as part of a rehabilitation plan.

Spent the prior 10 years in jail for a crime he sees as a "mistake." I suspect manslaughter, DUI with vehicular homicide or some other not-premeditated homicide. I suspect he is an alcoholic. He definitely hurt someone.

I believe he used to work two jobs in the past but his change in tense suggests that he does not anymore. He uses being a "cheerful hard worker" as a way to validate himself to himself and others as somehow inherently pious and redeemable. I think he also uses the exhaustion and stress of having worked two jobs as an excuse for his past reckless or harmful behavior.

He was married but is not anymore. He may have been estranged from his wife before he went to prison or his wife may have been the victim/deceased. There is a sense of acceptance of finality in his speech about marriage...this one or any future.

Has at least one child--probably a daughter--who bore him a grandson with whom he'd gotten close/affectionate before he was sent to prison. The daughter bore two more children while he was serving time whom he has not yet met because she has cut ties with him and will not allow him access to her kids. She does not and can not forgive him for what he did that put him in prison which is why I believe it's possible his crime caused the wife (her mother)'s death.

While he was in prison, it is probable that his daughter sought therapy and/or uncovered other childhood hurts and losses caused by him. Since he was not present for this process, her grief or to bear witness to the ripple of other consequences caused by his actions, he sees her anger towards him as unwarranted persecution for things over which he had no power from within prison.

It's possible that he sees his lack of genuine, meaningful remorse or empathy and his refusal/inability to communicate genuine love or concern for his daughter's pain as the fault of his jailers/the system.

Now that he is paroled and in the halfway house, he feels entitled to forgiveness, craves contact with his grandchildren and is disappointed that his release has not resulted in the realization of his delusions and hopes of a happy homecoming. He blames the daughter for being stubborn and wishes she'd heed his warning that she may grow old enough to regret not forgiving him before his grandchildren have grown up.

I am writing this "cold" and before reading the other user comments in this thread so I may guage my own assessment skill afterwards.

Jenn C. said...

Second-blush observances of this statement:

1. "I do not like sports. There is a certain violence people like. When I came here I was surprised how violent fans are."

I believe this is a deliberate segue to the subject of "violence" whose sole purpose is to convince the listener/reader/target (daughter?) that he is averse to violence. This "satellite" (as Gavin DeBecker refers to these seemingly extraneous bits of volunteered information) further suggests to me that the author's crime resulted in a violent death and leans me a little more towards a Domestic Violence "accident" or other not-premeditated homicide.

2. To clarify my reasons for believing the author is living in a halfway house:
"People who own cats are more social because cats are less social, meaning that there more social with people irregardless of how lonely that they are."

He indicates by his inferred ownership of a dog that he is less social.

"I love old movies. Watch them often. They are said to be better made by some than today's movies, though I think many people still think that special effects are more important than anything."

This further underscores my sense that he is inherently a loner. His feelings of separateness from people in general.

"When I came here..."

This indicates to me that when he was released from prison, he didn't just "come home." He doesn't say "When I got out" or "When I went home." He does not feel that the place where he currently resides is "home." His current living situation is not a place where he feels a sense of ownership or comfort. This indicates that his living situation is compulsory, not of his choice.

"I'm popular, that is for sure. Just ask anyone that knows me."

Indicates his participation/presence in a social setting where people know him and find him "popular." A place where being a single man (man, not "guy" or "person") and therefore "more fun" is relevant. Somewhere that mixed-gendered socialization is allowed.

Because I've determined he is likely a "loner," this also points to the likelihood that his living situation is compulsory and socialization an unavoidable but accepted part of that. Again, like a group home.

CONTINUED...

Jenn C. said...

CONTINUED FROM ABOVE

3. "You have to see him in order to love, right?"

I think this man's daughter (probably as a result of therapy) confronted him and told him plainly that she knows he is incapable of love. He is blaming the system and blaming her refusal of access to her children for this fact about himself as though it were circumstantial instead of inherent. He is holding an implied promise of developing a capacity to love for ransom in an attempt to get her to relent and let him see his grandkids. More cruel manipulation for a daughter who probably has to work very hard to stick to her guns, move on and let him go.

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I showed my first comment here to my friend who is also a deception-detection hobbyist. He pointed out a theory about the author's employment: that he possibly worked many blue-collar jobs but had a difficult time holding stable employment. That the attention deliberately called to periods of time where he might have overlapped or worked two jobs concurrently is a deflection from a truth where this was the exception, not the rule.

I'm not certain I'm getting that same "read" but it fits the sociopath profile. There are exceptions: not every sociopath or narcissist lives a parasitic lifestyle. Those who do not seem to take a certain amount of pride that they are self-sufficient and possibly feel that it's a detail about themselves that affords them a degree of credibility. As in: "I may be cruel/selfish/make mistakes but at least I'm not lazy/a freeloader. At least I hold down a job and work hard."

I think that fits better. Again, I think it's a truth he deliberately points out about himself as to validate a sense or image of piety. He may also be using it as a way to prompt his estranged daughter into feeling guilt for abandoning the father who made sure she was clothed and fed: "you also have bills to pay. Who doesn't, right?"

The second half of that seems to prove my point. He feels internal stress at his manipulation/guilt-trip attempt and softens it with "Who doesn't, right?"

Oddly, this very "pulled punch" is also manipulative. It says "Hey, I'm just a regular guy like everyone else. We're all on the same team. We're all together in this."