Sunday, March 15, 2015

Think Tank Panel Discussion on Jihad

Here is an interesting panel discussion in which we are provided opportunity to see one's own language interpreted, as this focus is strongly about words. One, Robert Spencer, is introduced as a "former trainer to US military and FBI." I am interested in readerships' commentary, specifically in areas of disagreement, and as stated elsewhere, I appreciate the ability to strongly disagree, as it provides opportunity to learn. In areas in which we are guided by principle, we find exception. In areas where we are guided by percentages, we find the opposing, minority percentage. These are all good things, with distinct American basis, as a people who have a history of agreeing to disagree. Since September 11, 2001, we have been engaged in a war against Islam Terror, yet there has been an increase in publicly stated pro Islamic positions coming from government, in particular, since 2012, even while violence has increased, along with rhetoric of violent threats from Islamic nations. Last week, the assistant director of the FBI lectured media on Islamic theology. Today, the head of the CIA publicly defended Islam. NPR (National Public Radio), funding by our government, now has a segment of "Muslim Life in America" In the past two weeks alone, we have seen photos or actual videos, daily, of: Beheadings of non Muslims; Cutting off the hands of smokers, Gay man murdered and his body desecrated in public Stoning of adulterous women Defense of pedophilia in child marriages; Destruction of a 10th century monastery NYC mayor adds Muslim holidays to their school calendar; This morning, Iranian news released a government video showing off their successful test of a cruise missile. This think tank shows that Muslims are not to blame: it is that "Moderate Islam" does not exist, which is why "moderate" or "non practicing Muslims" do not condemn the acts of terrorism, or speak out against degradation of women, or even the pedophilia in child marriages, for to do so, is to condemn the actions and/or words of the prophet, Mohammad. I encourage dialog on this video. It is, perhaps, the number one issue facing not only America, but the world today. There is now a new element of fear in losing the freedom of speech: More and more people in prominent positions are fearful of speaking out against Islamic violence in our country. They are concerned about their careers. Muslims in Europe are attempting to get anti-terror tactics and laws repealed, and are seeking to classify any anti Koran religious stances "criminal" as "hate speech."

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

I doubt anyone supporting nukes for Isamics will debate you, Peter.

I only made it half way throug, but it is easy to see why the CIA would support the religion: they fight, fight, fight.

So, if you are the personell manager looking for someone to tear up an area, the halo effect works nicely.

Anonymous said...

Peoper are afraid to loose their jobs.Afraid to not be rich. If they aren't, they'll go to prison.

Here's an example of how it works:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/infamous-murder-suspect-robert-durst-arrested-new-orleans-n323766

Anonymous said...

Here is a must gander at link for you, Peter:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/there-is-no-proper-english-1426258286

Peter Hyatt said...

Ha!

anonymous, this was a family debate today on the ride home from hockey tournament!

Why is one form of English superior to another?

I made the point that I enjoyed reading defense of Ebonics arguments, which surprised one of the "panel" in our vehicular discussion group.

I like to see the basis for the argument.

This went to one person defending "common core" with this argument:

Why teach basic math when civilization now all has calculators?

She made some interesting points.

My point was to answer that specific question with:

"People need to learn how to think" which is what my Latin teacher in HS told me when challenged about the value of Latin today.

English versus Slang:

Proper English takes more effort.

The preoccupation in slang with both bodily functions and taboos concerns me, as does the barrage of anti-female references. Incest, itself, is abhorrent to society, yet "mother F***er" is to be accepted?

My son had a college professor who spoke terrible English, but that was not my complaint. He boasted of it.

My son, being 19, thought this was a "stand against judgmentalism" (at the time) and admired the professor for using "ain't" and "irregardless" and other such.

Eventually, my son came to see the prideful stance the professor used to not only justify his improper use of language, but his need for attention, as too often his class became "about him" and not teaching.

I prefer to see people and culture elevated and the mysogonisitci language eradicated from both the tongues and the hearts of American youth.

I don't agree with the lack of math trainings, the dropping of Latin, nor of ebonics or urban dictionary. I like to see arguments, however.

The last few weeks, I have seen videos of what they call "ratchet girls" involved in horrifically brutal fights. The men not only do not break up the fights, but yell "world star", which is, according to the "urban dictionary" and the video context (in all of them) an encouragement in the violence for the women to show a breast during the actual fight.

At first, I thought it was a rarity. The last few weeks, I've seen about one new one per day. The violence in schools, with "bullying" taking on an entirely new and higher definition, has led my kids to say that in the few short years they have left high school that the acceptance of female violence has skyrocketed.

With young girls boasting and bragging, and young men urging them on, how do domestic violence advocates convince victims that it is not acceptable?

Words have meanings. "Bit***s and "h***s" are insults directly towards females.

Language does have consequence.

I hope we turn things around.

Peter

tania cadogan said...

Quote Peter Hyatt

This went to one person defending "common core" with this argument:

Why teach basic math when civilization now all has calculators?


A calculater, like a computer, is only as good as the information entered. Garbage in, garbage out.

How do you know if your calculation is correct if you don't know basic maths?

You need to have a basic knowledge of maths in order to know if the answer given is not ncessarily correct (though it helps) it is in the ball park.

If you don't have a basic understanding and you enter digits or information incorrectly, even missing a decimal point can make a heck of a difference, then problems will arise when you assume the resulting answer is the correct one.
It can mean life or death when calculating a dose of medicine, it can mean success or failure in the launching of a rocket.

Calculators, like computers, play an important role in the modern world.
It saves times, it makes working out complicated maths easier (though i still fail to see how the alphabet managed to sneak its way into the numeric world unless it used a fake photo id)it makes computers work so we can send cute pictures of kittens to each other and bad dad jokes.

If you don't have a vague idea of the answer then a calculater is just and interesting toy with buttons on that can spell words if you turn it upside down.

I have interesting debates with people who argue for the use of relaxed spelling, vbonics and slang in english language classes.

I have found i usually make them think again when i point out the similiarity in spelling of many medicines and how if the patient has one they live long and prosper and if they have the other one that is spelled similar except it has an i instead of an o then they will have a short and interesting life probably of about an hour or so.

Being as how i am English and most of you lot being foreigners (even when i was stateside and in Canada, you all were sill the foreigners :D ) certain words are spelled differently such as omitting the letter U ( i admit to my English teacher's shame tat, having worked for an American company for 12 years i type American and uses more than a few American words and pronunciations)

Language does change over the generations let alone over the decades and centuries.
I admit there are times when i struggle to understand what someone is saying when they use street slang, and, has anyone else noticed, that teens these days tend to mumble and not enunciate?
Half the time it sounds like they are hearing impaired and can't hear their own voices (yes it does annoy me)

On American tv shows where they show teens speaking such as scared straight, i have to put subtitles up to understand what they are saying their speech is so bad, and then they wonder why they are basically unemployable (even the subtitles struggle at times which leads to much hilarity on my part)

tania cadogan said...

Sadly Peter, women demanded equality and, it seems, that included violence and crime.

Once caught though, those self same women promptly play the gender card and want a minimal sentence due to them being female and possibly even a parent.

Too my thinking, you do the crime you do the time regardless of your gender.

Fathers get jailed for life for serious crimes, it should be the same for mothers.
If they have children well tough, if they are pregnant well tough.
You lose them.

It is well known through the centuries that females of the species are more dangerous than the males.
This can be down to maternal instinct especially in crimes where offences against women and children are committed.
It can also be because females are much better are making someone suffer the agonies of a slow death.

Anonymous said...

Miss Tania is sadly mistaken about the rise of viiolence and crime after the equal rights admendment.

Prior to that time, women worked for much less, fed their families, and still took a beating when the supper wasn't prepared accordingly.

I assume you rub shoulders with other house-mouses and cause trouble wherever you go claiming to be god-fearing and troublefree-bearing the perfect children (who kick people in the shins while in the grocery check-out line) will carry the next generation through its woes through your puritan teachings. My guess is they are all boys who can do no wrong.

Anonymous said...

"Ratchet girls" is a new term for me. I can see why the men cheer them on and enjoy the fighting if they want someone to pound, too. They fight alot in my area and it is quite discerning.

I remember mud wrestling was big years ago and women would enter. Others tried to get me to do the same as I was always muscular. I never wanted to. Even the water fights where one is on a shoulder was a task tough I always won. I didn't like it much but it was a sport.

I am quite older, and when in high school our PE teacher squared us off in a boxing match. I took out a Sr., though a freshman myself, with one punch. No one ever bothered me and I was never bullied.

I weas once attacked by a woman that had just beaten up a man. She attacked me, then was on the floor. These women are really mean and won't back down until beaten. They are like pit bulls.Their litter turn out likewise.

Today is different as their children could care less who they bully because bullying is trendy. I do not like bullies. Even if it is for their own gain.

I recently had a similar conversation with a college professor who claimed the cursive style of writing has almost disappeared. I found that hard to beleive. He taught computer science and math, so he speaks from his knowledge. Surely an English teacher would dispute that claim.

He also stated his children had the morals of a skunk. Odd to say that to a stranger I thought.

So, this may tie into the fighting among women. Equal rights. Place yer bets and step on up.

Anonymous said...

With young girls boasting and bragging, and young men urging them on, how do domestic violence advocates convince victims that it is not acceptable?

Perhaps a change of environment would help victims of domestic violence. If these young women are raised to be jumped by a number of girls at any given time, it is doubtful they would ever trust anyone. Why are they fighting anyway? Too much energy? Perhaps a sport to use up the excess. To be part of the group? Perhaps trying out new social skills to stretch the boundaries of the norm. To be competetive? Enter a different type of contest in which victory is certain.

Redirect, I think would be the solution.

I was amazed at the fight in Brooklyn. Never seen anything like it before. It is commonplace now, you say?

I have noticed women talking crap to me in the past and just thought it was the culture. Absolutely jumping up in my face over petty little mindless bs. Looking back, I see it was to start a fight. I've walked away. I've armed myself on a couple of occasions. And, more recently, I took a catscratch swat at the last that left her leaving with her mouth shut (after I got her off the street where she spewed her bs and onto my "turf" so she would know where the line is). I didn't even feel bad about it as it seems meaness has no boundaries and the people who do these things are just mindless.

I've heard of being beaten in a car while at a drive-thru. And, one woman told of being attacked by a gang of Mexican teens when she was young (this would have been in the 70s). Fortunately, I never had to endure this type of treatment until later in life.

Domestic violence is rampant in my area and their children are violent. They do not ackowledge they have a problem. It isn't like what you see on the Internet, but still dangerous levels of their violent behavior is creating enough trouble to cause fear of loss of life.

I intend to leave for an area where real police are employed and are expected to do their job. The community policing only serves the bullies needs and no one elses. They pretend they are family oriented yet enjoy the highest divorce rate in the nation. Women naturally beat other women down as it is ingrained in them. But, I've never seen the physical altercations like the one posted on this blog before. That's striking out more than mentally.

Anonymous said...

18-year-old Anjelica Hadsell is missing. Please listen to Wesley Hadsell, Anjelica Hadsell's stepdad who was in prison for years. He talks for 10-15 minutes on this podcast. Thank you.
http://www.chelseahoffman.com

Anonymous said...

@chelseahoffman

Listening to the podcast was next to unbearable. I analysed your statements more than I did his. Words like: Headlines are going crazy,trolls are coming out,and allthings media related and self-serving promotionals.

Just mentioning here the stepfather was in prison sends the signal of bully this guy until he goes back to prison.

Telling about the card parts appearing after area being searched. Finding a coat that belonged to the girl in a suspects home. It is being dragged on longer than needed and escalating a bad situation for clicks.

He does speak in the past tense. He LEFT for work.
If he killed her, it was over money.

Apple said...

I enjoyed this informative video. I wish Jamie Glazov spoke less.

john said...

"It's somebody's intention to put her where she is right now" - Aunt spills
Bobby Brown's sister, Leolah, went on a blistering attack during an interview with TMZ on Sunday, March 15 accsuing both Nick Gordon and Pat Houston for Kristina's situation


Bobbi Kristina remains in coma after being found unconscious in her bathtub on January 31.
Now her aunt, Leolah Brown claims her partner, Nick Gordon and aunt Pat Houston are responsible for what happened. her niece's dire medical situation.
Bobby Brown's sister went on a blistering attack during an interview with TMZ on Sunday, March 15.
In the recently released video, Leolah added flames to the fire saying: "It was someone's intention to put her (Bobbi Kristina) where she is right now. That I do believe."
Leolah continued: "There is a police investigation going on and i don't want to hinder that in any way but my belief is that Pat Houston has a lot to do with it,
"Whether it be her actual hand I cant say that right now but I hold her accountable for what happened to my niece Bobbi Kristina because of what knowledge i have of her and i have that right to say that,
"I do not have any respect whatsoever for Pat Houston...Pat is a manipulator from the door, she has never ever earned my trust...Whitney was not fond of her, we all know that."
As for Nick, who is currently under investigation by police for attempted murder, Leolah said:
"I believe that Nick is manipulating Doctor Phil just like he manipulated my niece Bobbi Kristina.
"His habits and his actions are not conducive, nor are they consistent with anyone who is concerned for anybody.
"Look what he is doing in the public eye ..he is putting up guns on Facebook...he's blurting out nasty words to my brother Bobby for what reason...why are you doing all this? for what reason? Let's hear it Nick."
Whitney Houston's daughter remains on life support in an Atlanta, Georgia hospital after she was found unconscious in a bath in January in circumstances eerily similar to her mother's death.

http://pulse.ng/celebrities/bobbi-kristina-its-somebodys-intention-to-put-her-where-she-is-right-now-aunt-spills-id3572414.html

john said...

OT:

Has a poltergeist been caught on camera? Woman claims she is being terrorised by her ghost of her dead brother and has been forced to move FIVE times

Donna Ayres, 33, says the hauntings began in 2009 after brother Paul died
Said pair had fraught relationship and believes he is behind spooky activity
Has recorded cup appearing to move on its own and levitating spoon
Mother has moved house five times but says spirit keeps following her



Read more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2996813/Has-poltergeist-caught-camera-Woman-claims-terrorised-ghost-dead-brother-forced-FIVE-times.html#ixzz3UYYuERTw

Peter Hyatt said...

Apple!


Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

Anonymous said...
Miss Tania is sadly mistaken about the rise of viiolence and crime after the equal rights admendment.

Prior to that time, women worked for much less, fed their families, and still took a beating when the supper wasn't prepared accordingly.

I assume you rub shoulders with other house-mouses and cause trouble wherever you go claiming to be god-fearing and troublefree-bearing the perfect children (who kick people in the shins while in the grocery check-out line) will carry the next generation through its woes through your puritan teachings. My guess is they are all boys who can do no wrong.

March 15, 2015 at 8:22 PM Delete


Anonymous,

She wasn't speaking against equal rights, specifically for pay, jobs, etc.

She addressed violence.

Equality, for some of us, means equality under the law.

Kids today are told "all men are created equal" without understanding the context of this equality, instead understanding how very "un-equal" (ha!) we all are.

Some excel in one thing, while failing in another. This is life and it is not fixed by those who get a short term job, knowing it is short term, and do what is in their own best interest in that very short period of time...oops, talking politicians.

Peter

Peter Hyatt said...

For those who think Islamic terror on Jews, women, same sex, etc, is a "partisan" issue, please note the following:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/robert-spencer/glenn-beck-to-nra-its-norquist-or-me/#.VQcCKy7vxBE.twitter

Peter

Anonymous said...

This sentence is set apart by itself:
Sadly Peter, women demanded equality and, it seems, that included violence and crime.


Her statement alludes to the rise in violence among females to equal rights.

In the good ole days, instead of prison, there was always the mental institution if someone wanted to put someone away. Hence, the modern day techniques with a new title.

It's nice to know how the media plays into the scenerio under the guise of keeping society safe for the future generation.

tania cadogan said...

Anonymous said...

I assume you rub shoulders with other house-mouses and cause trouble wherever you go claiming to be god-fearing and troublefree-bearing the perfect children (who kick people in the shins while in the grocery check-out line) will carry the next generation through its woes through your puritan teachings. My guess is they are all boys who can do no wrong.

March 15, 2015 at 8:22 PM


Interesting, the assumptions you made.
Obviously you are not a regular reader of the blog since you would know i am an out and proud atheist (with accent)
I am also child free having decided at a very young age i never wanted children.
I tolerate children and i treat them as adults. i expect good behavior and polite language and i in return will be polite and good mannered to them
My point regarding equality and violence is that today's ladies no longer act like ladies, there is very much a ladette culture where girls match boys in drinking, fighting, sexual conquests and suchlike and are proud of it, boasting on social media how much they drank, how many men they have had, catfights and insults made by them to others and their response when insulted.
It is possible that girls were violent before (look at the mods and rockers culture of t6he 60's as an example) but it was not as in the open as is it today.
Boys fighting does not scare me, girls fighting however does.
Boys are fairly predictable, girls are not
The female of the species has always been more dangerous than the male.
A male may be violent towards a woman, he may however pause before he does it having (hopefully) been brought up not to hit girls.
Girls don't get that advice to not hit boys or hit girls.
Girls will also invariably fight as a gang. it won't be one on one, it will be many against one, biting kicking scratching, hair pulling and worse if the other girl is prettier.

Girls and women want to be treated as equal under the law, this changes though when under the law they commit a serious crime in which case they decide they want to be treated as women ie the alleged weaker of the sexes.
Sad to say, often the law accepts this and reduces the sentence if any is given due to the fact they may be a mother or pregnant.
We seldom see this option offered to the male, that he gets a reduced sentence because he is a father or his partner is pregnant.

People will play any card they can if they think it will get them preferential treatment. we see it in gender, we see it in race, with see it with sexual preferences and we see it with religion, particularly at the moment with it pretty much seems to be (in the UK at least) that no muslim must be told no and we must bend over backwards at their demands or be prosecuted.
Examples being having a pig ornament in the window, having pigs in farm books, having a tv show about a cartoon pig, fast food chains and scyhols not serving halal food even if no muslims use it and so on)

Anonymous said...

Say, aren't you the one that moved to France with all the other females and are writing a book?

I often wonder who is doing research for the benefit of society and who is doing research for the benefit of prescribing a personality for transexuals or whatever they are called.

Anonymous said...

Italian father of criminal anthropology, Cesare Lombroso, offered the Darwinian explanation that centuries of competing for male attention to ensure their survival had instilled in women an ‘instinctive and implacable hostility’ toward one another that inevitably underlay their relations; criminal degeneration only removed any remaining vestiges of civility. Other Victorian commentators likewise purveyed the idea that female offenders were not only intent on each other’s destruction, but that this reflected malevolent feelings latent among the sex as a whole.