Saturday, September 17, 2016

Blackburn: Projection Pre Crime

Shortly before his wife was murdered in a home invasion in which no great theft took place, Davey Blackburn gave this performance.  




On November 10th, 2015, 3 men entered the home, beat, sexually assaulted and shot 3 times, pregnant Amanda Blackburn.  She languished for 2 days before death came.  The fatal shot was to the back of her head, execution style. 

This is not the general behavior of a home invasion robbery in which sudden and often violent interaction takes place for the purpose of theft; incapacitate the home owner enough to take that which was valued.  

Nor was this typical of sexual assault where the primary interest is rape.  

Nor did Amanda Blackburn pose enough resistance to warrant this elevation in violence ending in murder. 

Pre crime and post crime behavior and wording is critical to an overall understanding of the crime.  

Statement analysis of the statements made by Davey Blackburn following the murder showed:

a.  No fear of the then yet to be apprehended killers, nor concern for his son, his neighbors, and the public at large.  A vicious invasive murder produces profound fear, trauma, and concern that the killers, which appeared to the public as "senseless" (since no major theft took place) only increases the fear due to the seemingly random nature of the crime.  Nothing is as frightening as the unknown and with unknown motive, there is the incessant fear that the killers will return.  If it was known that much cash was in the house and this was a robbery, the trauma is lessened for survivors because the motive 'makes sense' in this limited criminal aspect.  Without sense, brutal rapist killers were on the loose.  

b.  An immediate and intense desire to profit from her death.  The language was commercial and shocked the public. Blackburn showed obsessive language about numbers in attendance, like his mentor, Perry Noble.  This unbridled ambition was evidenced within the specific number of attendees, online, to his 'service', while offering nothing about the victim.  The lack of empathy for Amanda was striking.  

c.  Extreme (given both the context and numerical analysis) distancing language from the victims (including the pre born child).  This lack of human empathy for the victims and immediate and consistent distancing from the victims also shocked the public. 
d.  Language of guilt, offering by himself, "for us, we have nothing to hide."  The use of the plural is something that parents of kindergartens recognize as a need to 'hide' or 'share guilt' among a crowd.  
e.  He claimed "Amanda died so the church would live", justifying her death, while claiming to have been alone, naked in the shower, with the Almighty, who spoke to him and gave him "history making" plans.  He qualified the history making plans by removing responsibility of failure from himself to the congregation.  If he does not make history, it would be their fault.  

This represented two elements within murders common of those who either commit the murder, or have guilty knowledge of the murder:  the need to justify the action, and the need to avoid responsibility.  These are not only found in such crimes, but are personality traits found within deviants.  In child homicides, for example, we often find such statements as
"she would not stop crying", shifting blame to the child.
"she was a teenager, you know..." with a subtle shifting of responsibility to hormonal behavior. 

On the day of the murder, Blackburn went to the gym, as he did regularly, at a specific time, returning home at a specific time, yet on this date, he spoke to his best friend (as was his pattern) but remained on the phone for 40 minutes longer than usual.  

This, alone, as a change from the norm, should be examined, but the additional element makes the deviation from the norm heightened:  on this occasion, he remained in the driveway on the phone call while Amanda bled out, with precious time lost. 

Projection and Pre Crime Behavior 

Before the crime, we look for any signals of projection, or even possible planning. 

What did Blackburn, himself, tell us?

1.  He told us that Amanda hindered his ambition.  He told us that he wanted to be out getting the numbers in, but she wanted him home with her.  

2.  He told us that when Amanda first became pregnant, it was the most stressful time in his life. 

3.  He told us that Amanda was incapable of satisfying his sexual needs.  He went as far as to publicly state (in a 'sermon') that Amanda wanted to go out to dinner, but he was incapable of having a conversation with her at dinner until they had sexual relations.  He reduced the victim (pre crime) to sexually reciprocal body parts.  

4.  His public videos show him correcting and embarrassing her.  This passive aggressive nature was in both word and body language.  The public displays of disrespect and humiliation were subtle and consistent. 

5.  Just before the murder, he gave a 'sermon' (with respect to readers of faith) where he waved about this gun as a choreographed prop.  

A man of unrestrained ambition  told the public what it was that stood in his way of success.  He told the public who it was who stood in his way of success.  

As one 30 year criminal investigator said, "no one gets this lucky."  

As soon as she was murdered, his words betrayed him.  His first announcement was a sales pitch for his business, and his second announcement  was his sales report; the number he obtained.  Then, in the media circuit, he continued to sell himself, referencing his upcoming book, while failing to speak about Amanda.  

He attended his father-in-law's church where he said he could not speak, but then could not stop himself from speaking and gave his speech about his naked shower meeting with Deity (something criminal psychologists and analysts recognize associated with sexual homicides and the need to cleans guilt) about his grandiose plans, fully unimpeded.

Had he been polygraphed, the course of the case might have dramatically shifted.  A defense attorney would have had all the videos removed immediately and would have silenced Blackburn.  

The narcissistic lack of human empathy shocked a nation, but it was specifically in his words that we see the removal of hinderance from his ambitious plans; not unlike powerful, ruthless politicians. 

Blackburn was immediately cleared by police and is judicially innocent of the murder of Amanda Blackburn, as his alibi of being at the gym at the time of her murder was sustained and the three males arrested.  It does not appear that Blackburn was asked to polygraph although the statistics are clear that when a pregnant woman is murdered, the husband/boyfriend is most often involved.  






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Anonymous said...

some folks believe. . . somehow, he managed to shoot Amanda without making a sound. You're so shocked that only one neighbor (that we know of) reported hearing shots while he was gone but have no trouble believing NO ONE heard him supposedly shoot her?

Hello, silencer? And it is easy to imagine scenarios where Amanda wouldn't be able to call 911.

How is Davey so positive that Weston never saw Amanda after she put him to bed and kissed him goodnight on Monday?

Anonymous said...

What if the two shots at 6:40-6:45 were actually "shot" at that time, and the third shot was with silencer after Davey returned home?

Bobcat said...

Nic,

I understand your theory of the possibility that DB shot Amanda before he left for the gym, but I don't think it works.

We know DB is a meticulous planner, and his plan was for him to have clean hands and a solid alibi.

For your theory to work, DB would put himself at too much risk, because - what if the thugs weren't able to make it to his neighborhood that morning? Amanda would be shot dead and there would be no random burglaries to investigate. Davey would be suspect #1, even if he said he was at the gym.

Another possibility. The thugs could have driven to Sunnyfield by 5:23 (when Jacola finally called 911). The neighbor's alarm system wasn't disabled until 5:36. There are 10+ minutes where the thugs could have been present with DB. This actually is a remote possibility, but DB would have to have very close knowledge and trust with "these guys" for it to work... However, even if they worked in concert to shoot Amanda during this time, DB still has too much risk, because what if the thugs missed one of their numerous cues in the "random robbery" script that was arranged for the time period from 5:36 - 7:10? What if they just drove home instead of hitting the ATMs?

I believe focus should be narrowed to connections, guilty knowledge, and alibi.

Davey (Alibi - L.A. Fitness & Kenneth Wagner)
Davey's associate?
??? (Jacola?)
Alonzo (Donae)
Diano (Jalen)
Larry

Anonymous said...

The LA Fitness and Kenneth Wagner alibis are too carefully timed to be coincidence (as has been said numerous times).

Jacola's demeanor was too incredibly calm in her appearances and screenshots. And her stolen (borrowed for a few hours?) car being found on a "random" Indianapolis street where the people living on the street actually knew Amanda from years ago, and then having it spoken about by Davey onstage (while saying "listen" and waiting for reaction) smacks of being just another part of "the story".

Anonymous said...

Davey (Alibi - L.A. Fitness & Kenneth Wagner)
Davey's Associate?
??? Treezy (mutual fb connection identified before deletion)
Alonzo
Diano, Jalen, Larry

Supporting roles:
Donae Mitchell
Jacola (Isawake) Searsbrook
Cheese possibly aka Anthony Shannon (associated with Marcus Shannon, Rakiea McCaskill, and Sophia Barker)
Hayley Andreason? (same phone number as Larry Taylor)

Updated to include all parties. http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

Anonymous said...

Link to Meg's Etsy store -

https://www.etsy.com/shop/NothingIsWasted


All Things For Good ...

I've entered into a season in life where I can honestly tell you I have no idea what's next. I've been in full time ministry for the past 5 years and now ... I'm not. During the first few weeks of transitioning out of my job and into new jobs I've heard three resounding words from God ... "Nothing is Wasted". There's a song from Elevation Church that I love with this same title and over and over God's reminded me that He works all things for my good. Romans 8:28 tells us that "We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him .." ... So that's life right now, I'm putting all my eggs in the following Jesus basket and believing that the Best is Yet to Come!



Nothing is Wasted domain name registered (by Newspring?) the same week (two days after?) Amanda was murdered.

Nothing is Wasted is carved on Amanda and Evie's gravestone, along with the text of Romans 8:28, all things work together for good. Nothing is Wasted is also the song that came on Pandora radio randomly while everyone was around Amanda's bedside during the 24 hour waiting game.

'The best is yet to come' was in Davey's initial statement released through Resonate and also in the invitation to the celebration of life service ("in case anyone in the media tries to speak with you. . . you can let them know that we have tremendously heavy hearts but that we believe the best is yet to come") - as well as multiple other instances.


I am not drawing conclusions here, but I find it interesting.

Anonymous said...

About Jacola Searsbrook's car

The CI stated that Jalen and Diano drove to the Boulevard neighborhood and dropped off Jacola's car.

Approx 7:30 - 8:35 AM - Jacola's car is left on Rookwood Ave. A concerned citizen stated that the car appeared at the location during this time period.

DB later states:
(7/18/2016) "So up in Elkhart, so y-, so he and his wife, very close to Amanda, we were talking about some things and, and he started talking about they actually live over, on the street, listen, that the getaway car was found. So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street."


"Actually" is unnecessary. Meant to convince. Emphasizes the coincidence, especially when combined with "listen". Davey did not want this detail to be unnoticed.

And the guys didn't break in - but notice he didn't say "the guys broke in and killed Amanda" - he says "the guys broke in and then they left".

Maybe that's EXACTLY what they did - walked in the front door and then left.

Anonymous said...

"Davey did not want this detail to be unnoticed"

Because it makes it an even cooler story

Anonymous said...

Meg
I've entered into a season in life where I can honestly tell you I have no idea what's next.

Of all the people connected to Amanda, Meg was the first (and only) to go into hiding.

----------------

Davey (Alibi - L.A. Fitness & Kenneth Wagner)
Davey's Associate/Meg?
???
Alonzo
Diano, Jalen, Larry

Supporting roles:
Donae Mitchell
Jacola (Isawake) Searsbrook
Cheese possibly aka Anthony Shannon (associated with Marcus Shannon, Rakiea McCaskill, and Sophia Barker)
Hayley Andreason? (same phone number as Larry Taylor)

Anonymous said...

Meg
"I've entered into a season in life where I can honestly tell you I have no idea what's next."

Of all the people connected to Amanda, Meg was the first (and only) to go into hiding.



I didn't even catch the "honestly" Bobcat. More talk of "the season" too- this time it was "in life" instead of "of pain" as Davey described it, but still.

And yeah, she locked down her Instagram and Twitter really fast if I remember correctly - and she had suddenly moved out of the Blackburn house shortly before the murder. From something Amanda wrote on either Twitter or Instagram, I got the impression she wasn't enjoying the roommate aka nanny situation all that much.

Really Meg said...

"Bobcat said...

Of all the people connected to Amanda, Meg was the first (and only) to go into hiding."



Went into hiding? Gawd you're such a liar, Bobcat. I'll pray for your soul.....and your mental health.

(I'm REALLY Meg, btw. Genius Bobcat said so, and she's never wrong about that stuff, lol.)

Anonymous said...

I don't suppose anyone knows what Amanda's "Kill Jezebel" message to Meg, means.

Bobcat said...

Anon @ 7:04,

We will rehash it, tyvm. Meg, where is the 2015 Halloween costume photo of you dressed as a masked burlar? Why is that hidden?

Rehashing Meg really draws out the angry anons, creative poster names, and book/bible quotes.

A hit dog always hollers.

VP of awesome....you can't get much more "associated" than the secretary who buys a jockstrap for the (beautiful) boss.

I got it boss. I know a guy.

Anonymous said...

burglar

Bobcat said...

"Maybe you could go after the rape victim again"

By that, you mean read the APC and note the oddities, inconsistencies, and storytelling...similar to Jacola's transcripts?

It's interesting, yes, but she is still a victim.
A victim in a crime that was set up to establish a precedent of assaulting a woman, on the floor, with a gun to her head, while robbing her...so that Amanda wouldn't be an out-of-the-ordinary M.O. for the thugs.

The research is not to "go after" the victim.
It's to "go after" the connections to the not-random execution of Amanda.

Bingo3 said...

Resonate Album is being recorded on the anniversary of Amanda's death. They are busing people from Indy to Elkhart and providing host homes for people to stay. DB wants it to be so big. He wants to be the next Elevate worship. I think that is why the core group of people are sticking with him. He keeps feeding them the bull that they are part of something so huge and God ordained and why not make some good money while they're at it?!

http://resonateindianapolis.com/album/

I had a feeling DB would go down to one service again. The last Assistant Snap he posted, there were like 10-15 people in attendance. They all looked like teenagers. He so bad wanted to have two services like all of his mentors, but it was never necessary and appears to have become quite embarrassing.

Bingo3 said...

It is interesting to go back and watch the Davey meltdown in such a short period of time. The beginning of 2015 was yet another Resonate relaunch. I have included the links below. This was the Sunday that Resonate opened in the middle school gym. It was also the first time they did videos of the services. Davey talks about not knowing anyone there. This was like starting over for them. He talks about mailers and commercials. It sounds like the church was on life-support with little to no membership but he was going to relaunch it and fill those 900 seats. Davey really should have been working another full-time job. Maybe things would have not have gotten so desperate. Think about it, he talks about knowing no one there but he is doing commercials and mailers. He is renting a gym, videoing the sermons, using a very complex and most likely expensive website but doesn't really have much of a core membership. He has a car on stage to demonstrate how cars can't function with flat tires. So unnecessary. Psychologically, this guy fascinates me. He was just not going to fail. He probably should have just chalked it up as a learning experience and gotten out of Indy. But that would mean being under someone again, not getting to be the center of attention. He couldn't go back to Newspring. They passed him up for a promotion. Most churches wouldn't hire him because he has never been to seminary. He has never worked a real job. I don't even know how they were surviving. It really makes you wonder where the money was coming from?! If you watch the first part of the service, he talks about not knowing anyone and makes it sound like it was the first Resonate service ever.

http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/change-week-1-change-my-story/

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152583310446143&set=pb.723261142.-2207520000.1476107579.&type=3&theater


I watched bits and pieces of the service and at one point, DB talks about rectal exams. He also talks about people being honest with you when you aren't actually good at something. Someone should have had a real honest talk with Davey. Someone should have told him that his church is little more than a group bible study. Keep doing it if you want to, but you have a family to support. Get a real full-time job. Your not a great pastor but you can keep ministering to the handfuls of people through small group bible studies. Don't launch at a 900 seat gym, purchase an expensive website and do commercials. If someone had been a little more honest with Davey, maybe Amanda would still be here on this earth. It is all very sad.

Bobcat said...

Meg was DB's assistant at Newspring. When DB was passed over for promotion to new campus pastor, she was also passed over as campus pastor assistant.

If DB has his own church/megachurch, her status rises as well. She is his right hand man.
She knows much, much dirt on not only DB, but likely his relationship with Perry Noble and others at Newspring/Resonate, including closeted behaviors. She knows. Because of her knowledge, she considers herself "closer" to DB than anyone else. On DB's side, he needs Meg because he depends on her for managing his contacts, social media (deleting and blocking negative comments, monitoring HERE), and schedule. She spoils him by doing her best at keeping him insulated in his own "superstar" green room fantasy world as much as possible. They have a deep mental connection that DB apparently never considered Amanda intellectually worthy of. They are a great, yet dangerous, pair.

I believe that Meg may have guilty knowledge of Amanda's death.

jmo

Bingo3 said...

The whole Meg component is very troubling yet fascinating. You are right, Bobcat, she insulates him in his little grandiose world of illusions. I had never thought about her getting passed up for a bigger promotion as well. Very interesting. I don't really know how to factor her in to all of this but the moving to Indy abruptly and then moving in and out of the home was quite odd. What did he promise her? AB seemed very much on board to having Meg come from social media at least at first. But why have her come? AB was a stay at home Mom. They didn't need a nanny. The church was basically a glorified bible study group. Davey did not and still does not need an assistant. The whole year leading up to AB's execution is intriguing. Another push by Davey to try to go big with yet another relaunch. Amanda settles into motherhood. She is enjoying being at home with the baby. Davey resents the attention away from him and the church. Meg fills the void and treats him like the rock star he believes himself to be. Amanda "breaks the news" that she is going to have another baby to take the attention away from Davey and his church. It was the perfect storm. I wish someone could have seen it coming.

Bad Juju said...

Folks started accusing Meg of being involved right after Amanda was murdered. Here we are 11 months later, and there still is no evidence of her involvement ... only supposition. At this point, to say "I believe Meg has guilty knowledge" is pretty meaningless without something to back it up, no?

Anonymous said...

Bobcat stated - I believe that Meg may have guilty knowledge of Amanda's death.
vs
Bad Juju stated - to say "I believe Meg has guilty knowledge" is pretty meaningless without something to back it up. . .

The words above with respect to Meg's guilty knowledge were "may have", not "has". It's not concrete, room was left open that she might not. Her words and actions (the burglar Halloween costume, making social media private, moving out of the house) open her up to speculation, just as Davey's words and actions have opened him up.

Bad Juju said...

Ok, I'll rephrase: At this point, to say "I believe Meg may have guilty knowledge" is pretty meaningless without something to back it up, no?

The "may have" weakens the statement even more (which was already made weak by "I believe"), which solidifies my point that it's all supposition.

Her Halloween costume is not evidence she has guilty knowledge. Changing her social media to private when a bunch of strangers started publicly discussing her life and saying terrible things about her is not evidence of guilty knowledge. Moving is not evidence of guilty knowledge.

You can say these actions "open her to speculation," but AGAIN, you still have no evidence and, you're just saying the same things you've been saying about her for 11 months. If that's all you've got, then you're making my point for me.

Anonymous said...

Amanda also wrote on social media something like "@megsgriffith that is a very untrue statement!" (unsure of exact words or date).

With no context who knows what it was about, but for Amanda to have called Meg out publicly in social media like that raises questions as to whether the relationship was on good terms.

Bobcat said...

If SA says Davey has guilty knowledge, and Meg is Davey's right hand man and gatekeeper...she could be unaware...as DB kept the agenda for 11/9/2015 swirling in his head...

If, as DB's assistant, she only knew/managed his official agenda vs. his swirly agenda for 11/9/2015 and 11/10/2015, what might she reveal under questioning by an investigator...?

Was she on the swirly agenda of people DB met with on 11/9/2015?

Did Resonate have a late-night leadership team meeting on 11/9/2015 - or was that something that started after 11/10/2015 - or was that a tradition Davey made up for the sake of blog storytelling? If there was a meeting, were Davey/Amanda there after returning from the family dinner? Where was the meeting held? Is there a record of the meeting?

Bingo3 said...

http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/change-week-2-change-my-direction/

3:00 minutes in:
"Last week, by the way, we need to celebrate this, we had 16 people give their lives to Jesus last week. Isn't that awesome? Awesome and it's just the beginning, just the beginning and so I believe we are going to fill up this auditorium, maybe a couple of times and we are going to see people every single week give their lives to Jesus. That's what our aim is and that is what our hope is and so we talked about how that the way to get that flat tire in your life, your spiritual problem is to give your life to Jesus and then change can start to happen. So now what I want to talk about is what are we going to do next? k cause many of us in here, we have a relationship with Jesus, we've, we've said that prayer, we've done that thing at the concert, conference or right there kneeling in front of our bed, we've prayed to receive Christ but we're like ok Davey I'm still not really experiencing change. Like I've tried some things. I tried last year to lose weight and it didn't happen. right. I,I tried last year to, to make sure my marriage was going to be better, tha that's just not, ju, just not clicking."3:56


I was looking for the quote from DB discussing filling the seats at the middle school auditorium. I found it in the second week of his relaunch. I just find it so interesting after so much failure, he still thinks he is supposed to be this grand pastor filling 900 seats not just once but over and over. He must have had illusions of not just two sermons but three or four and beyond. Even after 3 years of nothing, he couldn't let go of the illusion. In that minute snippet, I was not expecting to hear him stumble over his words talking about a marriage that is not clicking. His whole demeanor changes for like one second. He darkens. How bad was it? When did it go so bad? DB thinks he is supposed to be the next best thing. It isn't happening. How much money is he spending trying to get there? He stumbles over his words talking about a marriage not clicking. He thinks they should be filling thousands of seats. The writing was on the wall for this all to end very tragically.

Bad Juju said...

Another point about social media:

You believe Davey is guilty. Davey did not make his social media private. He left it wide open. If Meg making her social media private is indicative of guilt, then is Davey leaving his wide open indicative of innocence?

Anonymous said...

Davey said "for us, we have nothing to hide" - I wouldn't expect him to make his social media private because of that, because of trying to maintain the illusion of "everything's ok here folks". Also he is a public figure, legend in his own mind, and he wants as many eyes on him as possible.

I would like to know why Treezy was unfriended so soon after we started noticing and commenting on the guns and money he was flashing around in his pix.

Aprilrain71 said...

Anonymous at 11:45

"Amanda also wrote on social media something like "@megsgriffith that is a very untrue statement!" (unsure of exact words or date).

With no context who knows what it was about, but for Amanda to have called Meg out publicly in social media like that raises questions as to whether the relationship was on good terms."


I saw that this morning also. I was able to find the post it replied to which was a post stating that Christmas season was starting in 7 days or something like that. But the strange thing is that the tweet is now gone. I just went to find it to post exactly what it said but now can't find it. I saw it no more than 3 hours ago and now it's not there. Strange!

Bobcat said...

Amanda submitted, but I wouldn't be surprised if she started making a reasonable demand of her own. Tell the truth. Stop lying. They couldn't reconcile and a huge factor may have been because of DB's inability to stop lying to her. Tragic.

Anonymous said...

New blog post from Davey - leakage leakage leakage

http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/how-do-you-deal-with-the-way-amanda-died-part-2

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

Coincidence for sure - during the exact hour and a half, these guys randomly chose this house. It was strategically mapped out and carefully plotted by someone, but not by Satan.


"My counselor said this to me shortly after everything happened. “Davey, if you were the enemy and you wanted to stop the groundswell of the work God is doing in your church and in your father in-law’s church, what would you do?” I knew the answer as soon as he asked me. Satan wanted to take us out, derail Jesus’ work in Indy and Elkhart, cause us to grow bitter or frightened - and he intended to do so by taking Amanda from us."

"That is exactly what is happening in Indy, Elkhart and all around the world right now because of Amanda’s death. People are coming alive. People are waking up. People are receiving Christ and repenting from their former ways. All because this beautiful, righteous girl stepped into a narrative bigger than herself, one that's not dissimilar from Jesus’.


So was Amanda killed
(1) because Satan wanted to take us out, derail Jesus' work in Indy, cause us to grow bitter and frightened
or
(2) to cause revival, an awakening, all around the world - that more people would come to know Christ through Amanda's legacy

Davey presents (in the exact same blog post) two separate reasons for this to have happened - two contradicting reasons.
And below, the last 45 minutes makes yet another appearance. "45 minutes" is sensitive indeed. Why not just say "in the last moments of her life" or "in the last minutes of her life" - "45" is ALWAYS included.


"I have decided that in the last 45 minutes of her life, whether she knew she was on the cusp of receiving her heavenly crown or not, Jesus empowered Amanda with the courage to walk faithfully and boldly through intense fear and suffering. And now, Amanda is experiencing unimaginable and unspeakable joy! She is now receiving her crown. And back here on Earth new life is springing forth because of the pain she endured.

Aprilrain71 said...

"Amanda also wrote on social media something like "@megsgriffith that is a very untrue statement!" (unsure of exact words or date).

With no context who knows what it was about, but for Amanda to have called Meg out publicly in social media like that raises questions as to whether the relationship was on good terms."


I found the original tweet mentioned above on Megs Twitter page.


https://twitter.com/MegsGriff/status/403983840508915712

Anonymous said...

This statement below is damage control, to combat speculation that Davey had Amanda killed to create a Levi Lusko-type of scenario - because he needed something to slingshot his church and increase his numbers and visibility - a story that would draw people in. He is now pointing that "the enemy" wanted to STOP the church, keep it from growing - the exact opposite of speculation and the exact opposite of what he SAYS is happening as a result of Amanda's death.

"My counselor said this to me shortly after everything happened. “Davey, if you were the enemy and you wanted to stop the groundswell of the work God is doing in your church and in your father in-law’s church, what would you do?” I knew the answer as soon as he asked me. Satan wanted to take us out, derail Jesus’ work in Indy and Elkhart, cause us to grow bitter or frightened - and he intended to do so by taking Amanda from us."

Bingo3 said...

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

WOW! Just WOW! It has always been in Davey's words, Evil that did this. Davey had to be a little Evil for the greater good of his business. He took that shower, cleansed himself and is justifying the whole thing by how happy Amanda is now and how many peeps lives are being changed. I have never seen a case this bizarre and twisted since maybe the Jon Benet case. This one may trump them all.

Anonymous said...

7 days from today ... The Christmas season begins!!! #HollyJolly #theMostWonderfulTimeOfTheYear 🎅🎄🎁🎅🎄🎁
12:30 PM - 22 Nov 2013

AmandaGrace ‏@AmandaGrace 22 Nov 2013
@MegsGriff that is a very false statement!


I don't understand - from everything I've read, Amanda loved Christmas - so this tweet is a weird reaction to Meg's tweet. Even if Meg was wrong and it wasn't exactly 7 days from 22 November that "the Christmas season begins", it seems more likely Amanda would tweet back "can't wait for Christmas" or whatever - not call her out as making a false statement !

Anonymous said...

Thanks Aprilrain71 for the link to tweets

https://twitter.com/MegsGriff/status/403983840508915712

Aprilrain71 said...

7 days from today ... The Christmas season begins!!! #HollyJolly #theMostWonderfulTimeOfTheYear 🎅🎄🎁🎅🎄🎁
12:30 PM - 22 Nov 2013

AmandaGrace ‏@AmandaGrace 22 Nov 2013
@MegsGriff that is a very false statement!


I don't understand - from everything I've read, Amanda loved Christmas - so this tweet is a weird reaction to Meg's tweet. Even if Meg was wrong and it wasn't exactly 7 days from 22 November that "the Christmas season begins", it seems more likely Amanda would tweet back "can't wait for Christmas" or whatever - not call her out as making a false statement !


I agree, I thought it was very odd also. Not sure what to make of it.

Bingo3 said...

Anon, so true. DB is constantly on damage control. Isn't it so ironic how that counselor asks him just the perfect questions to fit the narrative. I want to meet this man who asked if Amanda would have chosen to come to Indy to get executed.

"My counselor said this to me shortly after everything happened. “Davey, if you were the enemy and you wanted to stop the groundswell of the work God is doing in your church and in your father in-law’s church, what would you do?” I knew the answer as soon as he asked me. Satan wanted to take us out, derail Jesus’ work in Indy and Elkhart, cause us to grow bitter or frightened - and he intended to do so by taking Amanda from us."

This makes no sense. His church was nothing but a community bible study that he had to try to relaunch over and over and over. And didn't he call his FIL church a bunch of dry bones? What groundswell? Evil needed to step into the picture to give Davey the crowds he so longed to see at his church. The thing is that the church has still not grown. Has AB's father church grown as a result of his daughter's execution. Davey is so insane.

Anonymous said...

Wow! I wonder when Meg unlocked her twitter?
Because it WAS locked down in 11/2015.

Anonymous said...

And this comment below the blog post sounds scripted (ghostwritten?) too -

"Donna An hour ago

Davey, our neighboring village of Townville recently lost a little 6 year old boy and this has broken the hearts of every mother who has witnessed this tragedy. Once again, evil entered our world, but on Sunday night after Jacob's death, his dad got saved. At his service several people raised their hands that they had accepted Jesus. Jacob reached more lives with love, kindness, and joy, in 6 years than many of us will in decades. I don't understand God's ways, and sometimes they . But I can see His goodness that comes out of these situations and I have to trust Him. You are responding amazingly and God is in this...He didn't create it, but He did allow it and is bringing salvation and care for many people that you would have never reached otherwise. Nothing is wasted. Your pain isn't wasted. Blessings to your family on this journey."

- Evil entered our world

- But yay - good came from it, Jacob's dad got saved

- Jacob reached more lives in 6 years than many of us will in decades - sounds like the many times Davey has said Amanda is reaching more people through her death and having a greater impact than she ever could have while she was alive

- blow my mind and crush my heart - sounds just like Davey or whoever is writing his blog

- salvation coming to those who wouldn't be reached otherwise

- nothing is wasted (again and again and again and again and again)

And the positive reinforcement that "you are doing amazing" doesn't hurt either.


I don't think it's a stretch to think that some of the positive comments are also scripted - just as the negative comments and Facebook posts are almost instantly deleted.

Anonymous said...

Wow! I wonder when Meg unlocked her twitter?
Because it WAS locked down in 11/2015.


Certain links are still broken - like the one from November 2, 2015 about the surprise birthday party for Davey where they had to tell him there was water in his house. . .

This is what it looks like when you walk into your house expecting water to be everywhere and instead… https://instagram.com/p/9m6qvoOH_U/ "

or this one -also from November 2, 2015
Most days I completely fail at trusting Jesus. Even so, I'm thankful for the moments that I know I'm… https://instagram.com/p/9mDjYduHzO/

But there is the one about how to buy a T shirt - this link is intact, from November 30, 2015 -

Ditto @mrsabarrett ・・・
For those of you who have been asking how to… https://instagram.com/p/-uOthoOHwgUSYA5SoDriV4_JsXaheP7Sm-1DM0/

For those of you who have been asking how to support the Blackburn family, one option is by purchasing one of our #forindy shirts which have been printed with "AGB" for #amandagrace, and #forindy on the back side! All proceeds go to Davey and Weston, and you get a cool shirt in the process! Head over to resonateindy.com/shirts


http://wiat.com/2015/12/02/church-selling-t-shirts-to-raise-money-for-blackburn-family/

"The church where Amanda Blackburn’s husband preaches is raising money for him and his son following her murder.

Investigators say Amanda Blackburn died after she was shot during a home invasion on Nov. 10. Police have charged two men with her murder. They have pleaded not guilty.

Davey Blackburn’s congregation, Resonate Church, is raising money for him and his 15-month-old son by selling special T-shirts.

You can buy them through the church’s website. Click here for more details."


Thankfully, the T shirt link no longer works - very smart on Davey's part to not sell shirts "to raise money for the blackburn family" after he is flying around the world and buying pool houses and a new 50-60K SUV. I wonder how many thousands of dollars was raised from contributors to the "blackburn fund" on Resonate's site or from buying these T shirts - thinking they were contributing to buying clothes for Weston or adding to his college fund for the future?

Shameless capitalizing, whether or not he had anything to do with setting up Amanda's execution.

CJ said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
7 days from today ... The Christmas season begins!!! #HollyJolly #theMostWonderfulTimeOfTheYear 🎅🎄🎁🎅🎄🎁
12:30 PM - 22 Nov 2013

AmandaGrace ‏@AmandaGrace 22 Nov 2013
@MegsGriff that is a very false statement!


I don't understand - from everything I've read, Amanda loved Christmas - so this tweet is a weird reaction to Meg's tweet. Even if Meg was wrong and it wasn't exactly 7 days from 22 November that "the Christmas season begins", it seems more likely Amanda would tweet back "can't wait for Christmas" or whatever - not call her out as making a false statement !

October 10, 2016 at 12:49 PM
**********
It's a joke. Amanda started to celebrate Christmas early in November, so for her, Meg's statement was false.
https://www.instagram.com/p/vJGJ9LL6fN/?taken-by=amandagblackburn

Anonymous said...

Ah that totally makes sense about the tweet.

Still weird wording though - negative, and easy to take out of context - as opposed to saying something along the lines of "maybe it starts in seven more days for YOU, but it has been Christmas season at our house for three weeks already !"

Bingo3 said...

"To be honest, the part of all this I have trouble wrapping my mind around is why God would allow this kind of tragedy to happen to Amanda when He has the power to have protected her and prevented it. I've had to settle on this: I'm not sure I'll ever fully understand why on this side of eternity."

Blaming God again. God allowed this brutal execution so the world change could happen. Davey may had it all lined up but you know God could've protected Amanda. God could have prevented Davey's well orchestrated plan. God had all the power but he let Evil step in for the better good. What a tool this guy is!

I agree Anon that many of the quotes on the blog seem scripted.

Bobcat said...

Interesting how he drags Kenneth Wagner and his father-in-law's church back into the current narrative.

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy be evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

Left for gym at 6:11.
Returned to his HOUSE at 7:41.

Not his driveway, in the car, but to his HOUSE.

40 minutes before he called 911 as soon as he could.

Anonymous said...

40 minutes sooner in getting the EMTs onsite might have made a difference. It might not have. And that's assuming Davey *wanted* Amanda to survive.

"The last 45 minutes" in Davey's mind might be when he was sitting on the driveway in the car in his wet gym clothes (although with only 20 minutes of training, 30 at the most, he might not have broken a sweat). It's obviously not the last 45 minutes before they pulled life support. That would've been the most peaceful pain-free time of all.

Bingo3 said...

More of the Jesus/Amanda comparisons!

"That is exactly what is happening in Indy, Elkhart and all around the world right now because of Amanda’s death. People are coming alive. People are waking up. People are receiving Christ and repenting from their former ways. All because this beautiful, righteous girl stepped into a narrative bigger than herself, one that's not dissimilar from Jesus’."

Davey is REALLLY setting this up, isn't he? Getting ready for the book and album launch.

Amanda stepped into a narrative bigger than herself? What the heck? She was executed into a horrific story that has probably caused thousands of people to question their faith. DB truly believes he can control this narrative and that everyone will be on board to how great it really all is in the end. Flip that quilt over and look at how beautiful it all turned out. He is absolutely a nut.

Anonymous said...

Yeah this last blog post is the strangest one yet, no question.

I really hope nobody buys the recording OR the book - except for Zach Woolever and the other fanboys which is to be expected.

He makes it sound like Amanda CHOSE this - chose obedience and submission, chose to be part of the story, stepped into it willingly. She did not.

Yeah, flip the quilt - and taste that cake and forget the bitter baking powder and salt that went into making it !

Anonymous said...

Who is Davey in the story? Judas? Wouldnt that mean he accepted a bribe to hand Amanda over to her executioners? What was that psycho quote retweeted by MacDonald?

I would look for something along those lines that Davey got paid to either kill her or have her killed. Who wanted her gone?

Even his "morning before" description of Amanda "in a posture of surrender" bowed in prayer is reminiscent of Jesus's Garden of Gesthemane (sp?) anguished praying before his death.

Since Davey is the one framing the narrative, it seems he plays the role of Judas. (Others may also have a Judas-like role.). Judas accepted a bribe to turn over Jesus and identified him with a kiss on the cheek.

Bottle Cap said...

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

It's a short hop from "a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers" to "a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by the husband"

What happened to god revealing his grand plan in the shower? Did god utilize these evil powers?

Is Davey setting up the story that, when he is caught, it wasn't him, it was evil powers that controlled him?

Anonymous said...

Bottlecap, His focus in that statement seems to be an attempt to explain how such events could have transpired precisely during the shirt amount of time he was gone. And yes, the blaming it on an "evil power", this suggests he was the perpetrator in my opinion.

Bingo3 said...

Yes, such strange wording in this blog. He is getting crazier.

I have become very interested to see how Davey got to the point where he needed to sacrifice Amanda. What in this last year led up to such evil and desperation? Looking back to last Spring and his sermons, his resentment and lack of respect for his wife was just awful. Just in the first 3 sermons, He talks about although he wanted his marriage to get better the year before, it didn't. He talks about her denting his grill and not speaking to her. He brings it up again the next week and how was having to save up again for another grill because his wife destroyed his. He has no love for Amanda and no respect for her. He makes fun of her accent. He didn't seem to think she was that great of a human but now in death, she has replaced Jesus Christ. Now she becomes the perfect person for him in death.

Anonymous said...

Were her pants ever found?

Anonymous said...

At his father in law's church, Davey says God spoke to him in the shower and said "Davey, I want my church, my bride, to come alive" - and asking if he would've said "ok" to God if God took Amanda in order to grow the church - and that's why God didn't ask if it was ok before he took her.

NOW in today's blog post, he's saying Satan wanted to derail the church, destroy what they had built, cause them to become bitter and frightened - and THAT's why God took her (or allowed it to happen, didn't prevent it although He could have if He had chosen to).

Pushing it off on GOD making the choice - really? And which is it Davey - did this "event" happen to grow the church or to derail the church? It can't be both.

Bingo3 said...

I would be curious to see a comparison of all the different reasons and rationalizations of why she died by Davey Blackburn. We knew by his immediate statement that Nothing was gonna be wasted by her death.

Bottle Cap said...

"a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy"

A lot of unnecessary words there. He sure is giving "evil powers" a lot of kudos.

Anonymous said...

Well, Bingo...

There's a few bits here:
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/justification-of-amandas-death-changing.html

And this:
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

Listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaFDK-ZP72M and read:
8-(

Thursday 12th November 2015
Morning - Amanda declared dead after organ donation process complete.
10:00 AM - Autopsy of Amanda Blackburn. Cause of death - GSW to the back of her head. Homicide. GSW to the lower left arm which traveled up to her biceps. Through and through downward GSW which entered and exited her upper back. Scratches to her left cheek, a split lip and a lower tooth knocked out. Two bullets were recovered and determined to be .38/9mm. No shell casings were recovered, which would be consistent with a .38/.357.

DB 11/29/2015 "God didn’t, God didn’t cause this to happen, but he allowed it, to happen in such a way, he allowed the breath of Amanda to come out of her so that the breath could be breathed into you and into me so that we could advance the gospel in a way that history books have never even told."

DB 2/21/2016 "No evil can come from God, and what was done to Amanda was evil. Did God allow it? He could have stopped it. ... And so somehow, in all of this, he’s allowed this to happen, and on this side of eternity, I’m not sure I’ll ever understand to the full extent why? But I do believe that when I see Jesus face to face, that he’ll give me answers, and he’ll reveal to me this master plan."

DB 9/11/2016 "That God didn’t cause this to happen, he doesn’t cause evil, evil, but for some reason he did allow it so it can cause us to go, “Why?” Why would you, why would you allow this to happen?"

DB 10/10/2016 "From day one I recognized this was not just a physical attack, but a spiritual one. There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened ... other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers ... Satan wanted to take us out, derail Jesus’ work in Indy and Elkhart, cause us to grow bitter or frightened - and he intended to do so by taking Amanda from us."

Bonus - Mother's Day doozies...(Davey sings Eminem)
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/05/582016-home-run-life-week-6-win-results.html
DB 5/8/2016 "My worst enemy is the dude that I stare at in the mirror every day." and "Isn’t it, isn’t it real difficult to take a stand, for, for Jesus, when, when you’re in the workplace? Like, isn’t it real difficult when your boss comes to you and says “Hey, I want you to do this thing” but you know deep down inside it’s a little bit shady. Like, like, like, like you might be able to get away with it, now, but, but, but, but Jesus, sees, what’s going on and, and he wouldn’t be too happy about that."

Anonymous said...

Davey stutters a LOT more when talking about Jesus and heaven than he does when talking about evil things.

"But, but, but, like, like, like, like Heaven! Do we really believe, that eternity is real? (long pause) Do we really care about it? (long pause)"
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/05/5152016-home-run-life-week-7-when-to.html?m=1

Anonymous said...

I just read Davey's latest blog post.

He's got his theology wrong. God could not have "prevented" Amanda's death.

Davey's latest explanation is a sign he himself may be demon possessed. Evil people who are demon possessed tend to do very evil things and have no problem creating totally conflicting narratives whereby their victim is seen as both "evil" and "saint-like". I think people like Davey just do not see whatever happens to their victim as connected to their evil actions towards the victim, so they are free to see the victim however they choose.

There are linguitic indicators in Part 2 that Amanda was not killed quickly nor was she killed within the 1 1/2 hour time frame.

Anonymous said...

Davey's explanation that Christ rising from the Dead is an example of how evil destroys itself is theologically incorrect and bullshit. Christ's ressurection did not destroy the specific evil that killed him nor did it destroy evil itself. Noone has ever claimed that it did. That is not the meaning of the death and resurrection of Christ. Christ died so that we all can be forgiven for our sins and enter Heaven. Christ's death and ressurection in no way destroyed the specific evil that killed him nor is it a metaphor of how evil destroys itself. That is absolute bullshit theology.
Jesus also did not agree to die bc he knew he would "get a crown". That is absolute bullshit and something Davey totally made up.

Anonymous said...

Christ's ressurection was a victory over death NOT over evil.

Anonymous said...

My opnion is that evil is not capable of destroying good and thereby must inevitably destroy itself. This is not analogous to Christ's death and resurection however.

Bingo3 said...

Thanks Bobcat. We can't forget also that DB tells us over and over sometimes things have to be ugly before something beautiful can be made from it. Quilts and cakes can be messy but in the end it all works out for the best. Nothing is Wasted and The Best Is Yet to Come.

Nic said...


Anonymous @ 4:48pm Oct 9 said:
The language in the APC was very specific that this neighbor reported that she heard "TWO GUNSHOTS", not just "shots" or "gunfire"- and at a specific time.


It was reported Amanda was found face down. The gunshot to her left arm might not have been apparent (at first sight) until she was rolled over. If Amanda’s shirt was not just pulled up, but pulled up over the back of her head then two back wounds might have been visible. Or, if her shirt was pulled up, maybe just one of the back wounds was visible or it was assumed there was only one wound because of the amount of blood, in addition to the gunshot wound to the head (2 wound sights = 2 gunshots). Either way, I have always suspected that whoever walked in after DB did not know she had taken a defensive shot to the left arm. This is why I believe Amanda was shot before DB left for the gym and that the reason why whoever walked in after him to get the ATM card, was there to make it look like a home invasion gone bad. Hence DB's word, "conundrum". I think that word DB uses to describe Amanda's killing is leakage. IMO, Amanda's murder was tragic, it was not a "conundrum", i.e., a puzzle or a riddle to solve which is how I believe he meant to use this word. It's the word of a narcissist.

jmo

Anonymous said...

I wonder sometimes if he is trying to convince himself, or us, or both - that this is a GOOD THING that happened to Amanda and it will have a beautiful ending - indeed, it is beautiful now because of those that are coming to Jesus- and it worked out ok for him too, with the house and the car and the pool and Weston's neat toys and all of the trips. . .

and Amanda's family is still talking to him, too !

Anonymous said...

I wonder if DB brought "Kenneth" and "father-in-law" and "Elkhart" into this blog to try to hide his guilt among a crowd. It's a "we" blog, disturbing and desperate.

Nic said...

Anonymous at 4:48 Oct 9 said:
It is too convenient (my opinion) that this one neighbor woke up and heard only two (not three) gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream and then relayed that information to IMPD that the time was 6:40-6:45am, definitely during the time Davey was at the gym.


Moreover, according to the cell phone records, it is also five minutes +/- after Taylor is dropped onto Sunnyfield.

Anonymous said...

from the blog -

"What I’ve begun to realize is that the greater the potential for impact, the greater (and sometimes the more violent) the opposition. C.S. Lewis wrote this in his book A Grief Observed:

"The greater the love the greater the grief, and the stronger the faith the more savagely will Satan storm its fortress." "

The greater the love, the greater the grief, huh -

Davey's exhibition of NOTgrieving speaks of the love he *didn't* have for Amanda, then?

This did NOT happen because Satan wanted to oppose the church and obstruct the impact. And while Resonate might have had potential, if anyone does choose to Google Davey and finds the things that have been written, they might or will think twice about coming to his church.

Nic said...

Bobcat @ 10:56pm Oct 9 said:
For your theory to work, DB would put himself at too much risk, because - what if the thugs weren't able to make it to his neighborhood that morning? Amanda would be shot dead and there would be no random burglaries to investigate. Davey would be suspect #1, even if he said he was at the gym.


Yes, and no. I have suspected for a while now, that there was a fourth person involved and it was that person who entered the Blackburn residence after DB left for the gym.

Soldiers are soldiers. Minions can be parachuted in any time, any place. They are dispensable. The whole scenario didn't have to hinge on just those three, although the set-up prior to that week (that they got got for as well,) lends credibility to the story the Amanda Blackburn story, i.e., the B&E's leading up to her murder that morning, so the notion that they are "likely" guilty of Amanda's murder.

I believe the connection is one of the neighbours.

Do you find it interesting that a (favourite) pink sweater and a string of [Tiffany] pearls were stolen that morning? That sweater was so loved by the owner she actually declared it so to the investigating officer, and it was duly noted in the APC.

Do you think maybe a neighbour coveted that sweater (and the pearls)? I ask because do the three in custody strike you as sensitive new age guys shopping for a girlfriend while they are ripping a house off of TVs and a computer? IMO, it doesn't jive.

These two items make me suspect that a woman was involved that morning.

jmo

Anonymous said...

It is too convenient (my opinion) that this one neighbor woke up and heard only two (not three) gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream and then relayed that information to IMPD that the time was 6:40-6:45am, definitely during the time Davey was at the gym.

Moreover, according to the cell phone records, it is also five minutes +/- after Taylor is dropped onto Sunnyfield.


WOW - good pickup on the time Taylor was on Sunnyfield compared to the reports of two, not three, shots.

So according to this timeline, if the shots were heard at that specific time and that was around five minutes after Taylor was already out of the house - and we know Davey was at the gym from his carefully crafted being-seen-on-camera alibi, then here are some scenarios -

(1) Taylor didn't pull the trigger on Amanda, although Davey says he's "the guy that actually pulled the trigger on Amanda" (how does he know so certainly - is he relying solely on the confidential informant's testimony or does that fit with the strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy)

(2) Taylor or someone else did pull the trigger and Natasha Tank Jones was mistaken on the time - although she seems quite certain of the time to be able to pin it down so accurately to the detectives

(3) Amanda was shot at least once earlier, probably with a silencer which would be one explanation of why the third shot wasn't heard - and the "two shots" was said because that was what whoever was in the house reported as seeing (their not having seen the third bullet wound because it was in the left arm and Amanda was facedown)

There are missing pieces, nobody here thinks they have it all figured out, but most here think that things don't add up. And the more Davey talks, the worse he looks.


Anonymous said...

I think there are at least enough discrepancies in Davey's story, in the timeline and in the affidavit for the defense attorney to create reasonable doubt that Taylor (or any of them) were the ones that actually pulled the trigger on Amanda.

Bobcat said...

Nic @ 8:48,

Extra information about the sweater...interesting!

I enjoy your thoughts - and agree, there is definitely another arm involved. DB has leaked two/couple arms-length more than once now.

There are plenty of gaps in time that morning for many different possibilities other than what is listed in the APC.

It is a conundrum.

Anonymous said...

And according to the APC, only that one neighbor heard *anything* out of the ordinary - realizing that the APC is not an exhaustive record of every single word spoken that morning (before anyone says it).

No others reported screaming, gunshots, a crying toddler, a barking dog, anything unusual - at that time of the morning while people were up and about? It would be different had it been 2 or 3am.

6:40-6:45am is a very specific timeframe - as opposed to hearing shots but not being exactly sure when they were
and
she reported specifically TWO shots, as opposed to just hearing shots, gunshots, gunfire.

Nic said...

So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street."

Note what DB says: (the guys, they, they)

the guys become they
concealing identity, at this point he knows who
they can be plural or singular

broke in and then they left
broke - there was no forcible entry
DB describes coming and going but does not say "they" stole the ATM card or that they killed Amanda, this is a huge omission of what they did/didn't do

they dropped the car off
again, DB conceals identity.
dropped - typically a stolen car is "dumped" not dropped off, like a favour or as a social nicety. This behaviour DB describes is, by definition, planned and the frame of mind is inconsistent with the crime spree that preceded it, i.e., robbery and murder


jmo

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 8:50 PM, the shots were heard while Taylor was at the house, NOT after he left. Read the affidavit.

Anonymous said...

They dropped the car off (like a favour to Davey) on the exact street where there was someone living who has a connection to Amanda from her youth.

More poignancy, more "what are the chances" (both for Davey to tell his audience and for us to see it as way too convenient, almost needle in a haystack coincidence).

Bobcat said...

This video states that multiple neighbors heard "two, three" gunshots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzsGa5HjytY

Anonymous said...

Taylor's phone pinged at the house - is there a way to prove he was with his phone?
If shots were heard while he was at the house, there is still the question of the one neighbor's statement and her knowing the exact time and only hearing two shots.

I don't intend to be contentious
I find it so odd that nobody else heard anything and that NTJ only reported two shots and "what sounded like" a scream. Was it a scream, or not?

Anonymous said...

I was writing while Bobcat was posting, I will look at Youtube link about multiple neighbors hearing two, three shots now.

Bobcat said...

Anon @ 9:35,

The oddities are numerous and no contention is interpreted here.

The scream that "sounded like" a woman is very strange. That could have been fake and timed to be while Larry was "at" the home. The dirty work may all have been done before DB left for the gym - evidence may have been taken away in the SUV along with the stolen items. So the rest of the "show" was just the final act of the elaborate "random robbery" alibi.

It could work...this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers, after all.

Anonymous said...

Why the heck would Davey have them leave the car near the home of someone he knows? What would be the purpose? I've never heard a logical explanation why people think he would do that.

Anonymous said...

"strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy (marketing trick) by evil powers"

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

Trudy said...

The counsellor is back - with more bizarre questions for crazy Davey. That counsellor needs a shrink. Stat!

Imagine asking your client to put themselves inthe mindset of satan. A sort of reverse " WWJD?".

Now imagine that your counsellor is mad enough to ask such a thing.. and the answer comes to you IMMEDIATELY?

Kill.





Nic said...

Satan wanted to take us out, derail Jesus’ work in Indy and Elkhart, cause us to grow bitter or frightened - and he intended to do so by taking Amanda from us.”


take us out
remove from existence; also has a monetary connotation

derailing Jesus’ work
derailing - changing course
dropped pronoun, someone caused a change in course

cause us to grow bitter or frightened
to create (to grow) bitterness (or) fear in Indy and Elkhart

DB identifies the work as “Jesus’” work only being changed in Indy and Elkhart, but there is a revival everywhere else

taken is minimizing language, Amanda was murdered

If the work is derailed from Jesus’ work then to whose work is the work changed to?

People are "receiving Christ”; but he doesn’t say from whom?

jmo

mom2many said...

"strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy"

Versus

"Taylor is accused of shooting and killing Blackburn, mother of a toddler who was pregnant with her second child, in a senseless act that garnered international intention for its randomness."
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/78023602/

Anonymous said...

Why the heck would Davey have them leave the car near the home of someone he knows? What would be the purpose? I've never heard a logical explanation why people think he would do that.

-----------
Because it's part of the story ! Watch him tell it, starting at 34 minutes into the video. If this isn't looking for a reaction to this "neat coincidence" from his audience, I don't know what is.

From 7/17 ForIndy transcript from video
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/forindy-week-2-no-pain-is-in-vain/

So I kinda just let that sit, uh, and um, about a week later I want and had coffee with, this guy named Jeff Reichanadter, who’s a pastor over in Common Ground church, and he was actually Amanda’s youth pastor. So up in Elkhart, so y-, so he and Adrienne, his wife, very close to Amanda, we were talking about some things and, and he started talking about they actually live over, on the street, listen, that the getaway car was found.

So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street. I -I'm telling you this because I want you to, I want you to see the DOTS that the Lord is connecting here


He wants his flock to see the dots that THE LORD is connecting here. . . very dramatic delivery, while he is pausing and looking around for a reaction form them when he says the ex-youth pastor lives on the street where the car was found, that the car was dropped off at. their. street.

It seems important to Davey to mention this, that's why it is of interest to me. He says "listen" - he emphasizes certain words, he said it twice - that the car was dropped off on that street. It is important to him. A connection to Amanda.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 7:47 said:
Davey's latest explanation is a sign he himself may be demon possessed. Evil people who are demon possessed tend to do very evil things and have no problem creating totally conflicting narratives whereby their victim is seen as both "evil" and "saint-like". I think people like Davey just do not see whatever happens to their victim as connected to their evil actions towards the victim, so they are free to see the victim however they choose.


This is in keeping with he show he did with Amanda’s family where in Pastor Byars says, so maybe he was "inspired" jmo:

"So, let your anger be towards the sin, not towards the people some, even tho they intended for evil, they in many ways, and in this case, an, an , especially, I have to be focused on the fact that this is what Satan wants to do, to destroy the things of God.” […] Now until that day, I’ve got to walk in freedom from bitterness and from anger and from wrath and hatred towards these men and here’s what I want you to understand from me, I’m trying to walk in, um, in hatred (nodding) I’m gonna use that, in hatred in anger towards sin in this world. Towards the brokenness in this world, instead of against the broken people of this world. Because we’re all broken and we all need a saviour to re-rebirth us into a new life in Jesus Christ. And these men that did this, (sighs,) are walking in the wickedness of their hearts (notice the open left hand palm up in the direction of DB) that they need to be redeemed of, they need to be forgiven for and changed. I don’t know why I can say this except the spirit’s in me. I want that for them. Now what that means is that (Looking at DB) I have to walk in Heaven with them for the rest of forever. Okay? But when I understand how broken I am and all that I’ve been forgiven of? I’m no different, in fact, who’s to say that without Jesus Christ what I’m capable of and what I would do. ….

Trudy said...

ITA Anon @ 11:10. doesn't Amanda's ex pastor from that very street, know Larry Taylor's foster parents, too.

Anonymous said...

"doesn't Amanda's ex pastor from that very street, know Larry Taylor's foster parents, too."


Trudy I can't tell if this ^ ^ ^ is tongue in cheek or really true, but either way I find it to be quite funny tonight !
I wonder what neat coincidence he will relate to his flock next, while looking around for the oohs and ahs of reactions from them.

Anonymous said...

" What’s even more shocking than watching a mom walk through this pain (childbirth) is hearing her say she wants to do it again!!

Uh huh. She was mudered because she was pregnant.

Nic said...

Bobcat said...
This video states that multiple neighbors heard "two, three" gunshots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzsGa5HjytY


Yes, I linked to it a couple of nights ago. I transcribed what they said up thread. IMO, it can be taken two ways, that more than one witness heard the gun shots or that the second "investigator" corrected him and said they spoke to neighbours and "one" heard.


Transcript from the linked video:

This is where the first burglary happened at 5:30 in the morning. And then as we come down just the sidewalk we can see, one, two, two houses down we get to the Blackburn’s. So 6:11AM, according to police, we know that Davey is seen leaving to go to the gym out of his driveway here behind us.

Yes, that's correct. So, if we try to put this puzzle together to some degree, we know that a house, two doors from Davey Blackburn was broken into. What we have also learned through sources that the house right next to Davey Blackburn’s house, just in the tiny time period that he was leaving, that someone tried to even get into that home, and,

that’s this home here,

Yes, that’s correct.

So Davey’s leaving here at 6:11am, and talking to some of the neighbours and these houses are close to each other, we’ve heard from multiple people that they heard two-three gunshots at approximately 6:45, 6:50 in the morning.

Yes. Um,we’ve talk to several sources and one source told us that she awakened and she heard gunfire at around 6:45 that morning. We do know that at this stage from all indications, Davey Blackburn was at a gym working out. That Davey Blackburn comes home at somewhere between 8 and 8:30 and when he comes into the house, he finds his wife, she’s been shot in the head, 911 is called.

Nic said...

Anonymous said:
Why the heck would Davey have them leave the car near the home of someone he knows? What would be the purpose?


To evoke fear? Per: "...cause us to grow bitter or frightened "

Great question. Did this youth pastor have any influence over DB's career progression? Did he have a position in the church that would cause DB some bitterness or professional jealousy?

Anonymous said...

Amanda's former youth pastor was not the pastor that was in touch with Larry Taylor's foster parents.

That was Pastor John Girton "Pastor G".


Anonymous said...

It was Amanda's youth pastor - I dunno, did Davey know Amanda when she was that young? Was Davey ever working in Elkhart that this guy would've had anything over him?

With respect to bitterness or professional jealousy, I think Davey has that in spades. It's like acid in his mouth that Resonate isn't successful. He wishes that Resonate was like his buddy Kenneth Wagner's church or Clint Dupin's church or Levi Lusko's church or Perry Noble's church - two services. He even disparaged Phil Byars' church by calling them dry bones - when that church had a ton of people there on the day he spoke (and most likely every Sunday) - knocking that church down to build his own up, much?

My impression is that the getaway car getting dropped off on "that very street" is for the story - especially since he emphasized it twice and looked around for a reaction. Showing how God is connecting the dots speaks to orchestration, making a pattern of neat coincidences that all add up to a master plan.

Trudy said...

Thanks Bobcat, do you happen to recall how God laid out the dots for CD to connect with Pastor G?

Anonymous said...

Trudy,

The comments here have transcriptions of DB describing how he meets up with Pastor G. Davey relays this story to his stepuncle Ken Murphy on 8/27/2016

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/08/8282016-cypress-church-with-stepuncle.html?m=1

Here's where it gets more interesting. I reached out to Pastor G. to see if he would confirm their meeting as DB described it. He says that he tweeted a message of support to DB when he first heard about the crime, and that he "believes" he called DB instead of DB calling him. He excuses DB's version as "Just minor embellishments to enhance his vision I believe."

I also asked him if DB really cried, like "bawling" tears, kleenex, nose-blowing, etc.

His response: "He appeared to tear up. So....yes."

Pastor G. appears to have a similar Pastor/speaker business model as DB. Lots of promotional beauty shots featuring his supportive wife. He also is a bit of an activist and LOVES being on camera - however, he dresses much nicer than DB.

Trudy said...

Thanks Bobcat, you DO have a mind like a steel trap.

I have commented before about how CD sees and excuses his own lies. (Teaching tools, parables, analogies). I love Pastor G's "minor embellishments to enhance his vision." He'll find that little phrase handy if he is ever held accountable for his lies.

"It wasn't a lie, per se, your honor. 'Twas a minor embellishment to enhance his vision."


Trudy said...

That's great dot joining! CD wants to "intercept" at-risk youth. He meets with a few people and they all tell him to to connect with Pastor G. CD contacts pastor G and lo and behold:

".., and so he proceeds to tell me, he said I got a phone call from the couple that has been fostering the guy that allegedly killed Amanda, for the past six years."

Dot dot dot.

Anonymous said...

Seriously !
It is so obvious that this is just too many neat things falling into place. Connect the dots - it couldn't have been scripted any better.

Bingo3 said...


"So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street. I -I'm telling you this because I want you to, I want you to see the DOTS that the Lord is connecting here."

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

So which is it Crazy A$$ Davey?! Is it the Lord connecting the dots or is it a carefully plotted ploy by evil powers?

Bingo3 said...

What revival is going on? Is Resonate really changing the city of Indy? There were grandiose plans according to Davey to go out into the city and take it back for God. I have seen some pics of Resonate members going in and cleaning some yards in the inner city. Most churches are involved in servant Saturdays such as these. Davey acts like it is some amazing new idea.
The only real change I see is in Davey's lifestyle. I think once Davey is arrested and out of the picture, then Amanda's story really might impact a lot of people. It will also shed light on many of these slick, lying pastors who are controlling people's minds and hearts. Just because someone calls themselves a pastor doesn't mean you can trust them.

Me2l said...

Bobcat said...
Me2l,
What happened to your DIL that she "went suffered cardiac arrest"?That's just a year ago - can you offer a comparison of how DB has grieved to how you have/have observed your child grieve?
October 9, 2016 at 3:02 AM


Revisiting this question, because I thought it odd at the time that you included "went" in your quote, when it clearly was an error. (I had re-worded, copied, and pasted, unintentionally leaving the word.) Not only does it make no sense in the context of that sentence, but even if it somehow could be included, it isn't the way I speak--something a perceptive "analyst" would know. Since my IQ tests, like yours, show a high level of intelligence (a bit of sarcasm here), and since I am perceptive, the thought was in the back of my mind that you somehow thought the "went" to be meaningful....and, voila, I discovered this morning I was correct.

Reference Peter's latest blog, "Advanced Analysis: The Hina Clause": In your comment, you mention the "went" connection. Lol!

If you would learn a bit of context and proper application, it would benefit you.

Bobcat said...

Me2l,

You only wrote "went" once, and there was no "left" in your statement, nor a bunch of stuttering etc. You explained your simple error. I've moved on.

CJ said...

Bobcat said...

Here's where it gets more interesting. I reached out to Pastor G. to see if he would confirm their meeting as DB described it. He says that he tweeted a message of support to DB when he first heard about the crime, and that he "believes" he called DB instead of DB calling him. He excuses DB's version as "Just minor embellishments to enhance his vision I believe."

I also asked him if DB really cried, like "bawling" tears, kleenex, nose-blowing, etc.

His response: "He appeared to tear up. So....yes."
October 11, 2016 at 1:08 AM
*********
Great fact checking, Bobcat. Whose account should we believe?

Pastor John Girton ‏@jgirton 11 Nov 2015
@daveyblackburn it's PastorG Praying w/ u bro. Please let Christ MBC support n some way #EnoughIsEnough

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Ajgirton%20to%3Adaveyblackburn&src=typd

Nic said...

Bingo3,

Is this a complete, uninterrupted quote?

"So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street. I -I'm telling you this because I want you to, I want you to see the DOTS that the Lord is connecting here."

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

Nic said...

Bingo3,
Can you please provide the link to your discussion blog, again.

Thanks!
:0)

Anonymous said...

Nic, did you mean me?

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/08/7172016-forindy-week-two-no-pain-is-in.html

I'm answering for Bingo - that is not one quote. The connect the dots story is from July, and the evil ploy is from yesterday.

The connect-the-dots quote almost sounds to me like DB is trying to point a finger at Amanda's former youth pastor. Guilt - trying to implicate others. He planned all along - that if the getaway vehicle accidentally yielded any clues - the car itself would be found near someone (other than DB) with a connection to Amanda.

Me2l said...

said...
Me2l,

You only wrote "went" once, and there was no "left" in your statement, nor a bunch of stuttering etc. You explained your simple error. I've moved on.
October 11, 2016 at 9:44 AM



haha

Nice to know I've been cleared.

Anonymous said...

"CJ said...

Great fact checking, Bobcat. Whose account should we believe?

October 11, 2016 at 9:49 AM"





Neither. Both Davey and Bobcat are known liars.

CJ said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
"CJ said...

Great fact checking, Bobcat. Whose account should we believe?

October 11, 2016 at 9:49 AM"

*************

Neither. Both Davey and Bobcat are known liars.

October 11, 2016 at 10:48 AM

Hey Anon,

You are attempting to spin my compliment to Bobcat as sarcasm.

The tweet from Pastor G makes the context of my comment clear. I believe Pastor G's account over Davey's.

Anonymous said...

OT

Does anyone recognize this profile?
http://nebula.wsimg.com/1efaa4cbfeddeeb896a457f8a7c63f45?AccessKeyId=267C3777491740C34A1E&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

Nic said...

Yes, Bobcat. I'm sorry!

Thank you!

Nic said...

ploy
ploi/Submit
noun
a cunning plan or action designed to turn a situation to one's own advantage.
"the president has dismissed the referendum as a ploy to buy time"
synonyms: ruse, tactic, move, device, stratagem, scheme, trick, gambit, plan, maneuver, dodge, subterfuge, wile
"perhaps this had been a ploy to revive her husband's fading interest"

There’s no pre-laid-out terms of contract in this whole thing.

"There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world.”


A ploy, a ploy! My kingdom for a ploy.

Anonymous said...

"CJ said...

The tweet from Pastor G makes the context of my comment clear. I believe Pastor G's account over Davey's.

October 11, 2016 at 10:53 AM"


You can believe BOBCAT'S account of Pastor G's account if you choose to, but her past posts about contacting people who know Davey have been proven by SA to be DECEPTIVE.

I choose to take it with a truckload of salt unless I hear it from Pastor G himself. That's unlikely to happen, though, because I'm inserting myself into this case by contacting people who know Davey.

Anonymous said...

^^^ That should say I'm NOT inserting myself into this case (like Bobcat is).

Nic said...

DB 7/7/2016 at Resonate:
33:10 And so I was um, about two weeks later I was down in, downtown, at a, a student conference. It was about six thousand teenagers gathered down in downtown Indy, convention center. Elevation worship, who writes many of the songs that we do on a Sunday, um. They were leading worship so I was kinda, I was kinda side stage. We’ve got some friends there that were putting on this, thing and, so I was side stage looking out, at this sea of 6,000 teenagers and the the lord spoke to my heart and said, “Hey Davey, what if Larry Taylor" - who’s the guy that actually pulled the trigger on Amanda - "What if Larry Taylor had had this, when he was twelve years old?” And I don’t know why that thought came to my mind, but it absolutely crushed me. You know, consequently, or incidentally, Elevation is the one that writes the song Nothing Is Wasted. So ah, I’m sitting there, thinking about this and god’s going “There’s something more here I want you to do."
________

Is DB implying that Larry Taylor's life was a waste until "a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers" gave him "purpose"? That the "evil powers" chose Larry Taylor to be part of the "strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy?

Anonymous said...

Nic,

Don't give yourself a headache. He's selling the (changing) story in any way he can.

Anon @ 11:07

The email exchange is posted here for your perusal:

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/08/8282016-cypress-church-with-stepuncle.html

Nic said...

Trudy said:
CD wants to "intercept" at-risk youth.


You got me thinking, Trudy, as per the nugget I bumped from Bobcat's blog.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, why don't you post the alleged Facebook message about Davey turning tricks in high school "for our perusal." You made the claim HERE, post the message HERE. I don't visit your blog.

Anonymous said...

"CD wants to "intercept" at-risk youth."

Traditionally ideal cult recruits.

Nic said...
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Nic said...


@Anonymous @11:56am,

I agree. And victims of violence, i.e., target market/niche market.

And it happened as a result of gang (smile) violence in the city. So you can imagine I’m going “I don’t know if my heart’s just gonna hate this city.” So I kinda braced myself flying back in and I was like “you know what, I’m gonna. I’m just gonna see what the lord does” and, and, and hopefully there’s some grace here and, and I flew back into the city, landed, and I started to drive, didn’t have a home at the time. It was, it was a crime scene and so, drove to, family member’s house and I drove right through downtown, and I looked at our cityscape, and the unspeakable happened.

Unimaginable. I can’t describe it. Absolutely indescribable

32:44 My heart, instead of growing bitter at our city, actually grew for our city. And I began thinking about, man, there are a lot of people, who are victims of this same exact thing that myself and my family are victims of, and I wonder if we could do something to help. I wonder if this mess could actually become a miracle. I wonder if this test could actually become a testimony.
_________________

So, Indy is a test market?

You know what I think, I think Resonate was dead in the water. The numbers were not there, Amanda was pregnant again and they were broke. It'll be hard to prove the church's viability because churches don't have to report their earnings. But it would be interesting to learn if DB was able to keep up with the bills of his home and church.

There was talk of his assistant living with them, up thread and then bailing shortly before Amanda's murder. I've always been of the opinion that her living with them was in lieu of a full salary. i.e., room/board/stipend, and she left because she was part of the overhead he could no longer afford/manage. If I'm correct, the new baby meant DB would have had to step it up and get a j-o-b; make it full-time and minister part-time.

Nic said...

and I flew back into the city, landed, and I started to drive, didn’t have a home at the time. It was, it was a crime scene and so, drove to, family member’s house and I drove right through downtown, and I looked at our cityscape, and the unspeakable happened.

____________

Does anyone else get the impression that either someone showed up at the airport or DB stopped in on someone after he landed? He started to drive but there is no end to his destination. There is no pronoun in front of family. I've never been to indy, can you see the cityscape as you're driving "through it"? Maybe DB knows someone with a view? Someone in a high-rise?

jmo

Anonymous said...

You can see the Indy cityscape from the highway. Lucas Oil Stadium presents the illusion of an ancient cathedral.

Anonymous said...


Bobcat said...
Nic,

Don't give yourself a headache. He's selling the (changing) story in any way he can.

Anon @ 11:07

The email exchange is posted here for your perusal:

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/08/8282016-cypress-church-with-stepuncle.html



Wow - I just looked at this email exchange.

The whole story of Davey getting a phone call and from this pastor and then having coffee with him - the guy who fostered Taylor (?) - it smacks of the same type of storytelling as in the Love Song Week 6 Q & A where Davey said just recently there was a couple thinking of leaving the church and they talked them out of it - and Amanda called him out (gently) and said "that's not true" and Davey said something like "it's a little bit true" and then got this smirk on his face like - BUSTED ! If Amanda hadn't said anything, nobody in the audience would've known Davey was creating a story.

Same with this.

I think he doesn't know where the truth ends and the lying (embellishment, stretching the truth, adding details that might not be quite accurate but make for a better story) begins. He is definitely stretching the boundaries and thinking nobody will know the difference.

And I've not seen the video yet, but I would bet that he is looking back and forth and around for a reaction when he makes the statement about the couple who has been fostering Taylor for the past six years.

Anonymous said...

Actually I think Davey knows EXACTLY where the truth ends and the lying begins - in his strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy/story. He just hopes nobody will notice.

But we are.

Bobcat said...

Anon @ 1:30,

Pastor G (who met with DB) supposedly knows the foster parents of LT. He was not the foster parent.

Recap: DB at Cypress church August 2016:

"And so, um, I’m telling this guy (Pastor G) this at this coffee, all of this stuff, right, and he goes, "okay, awesome — how do you feel about their family? I’m like, ahh … like, I mean it threw me off, I hadn’t thought about that. And um, and so he proceeds to tell me, he said I got a phone call from the couple that has been fostering the guy that allegedly killed Amanda, for the past six years. And, uh, he’s a pastor in town, good friend of mine, and he’s freaking out when they’re making all the arrests, and he thinks that you would be absolutely enraged at them." So now I’m sitting at this coffee and I am, I’m losing it, like I am bawling, because I’m feeling this weight of suh, something the Lord’s doing in this whole story, ‘cuz I’m like, God has now put me two arms length away, relationally, with the guy who, who allegedly killed Amanda.
So, on one, on one side of things I’m seeing God do something, and, I’m like, ahh, and on the other side I’m like, I don’t know if I can do this, you know what I mean?

---------------------
A relevant follow-up comment:

"God has now put me 2 arms lengths away, relationally, with the man who allegedly killed Amanda."

*****
Linguistically, Davey has placed himself "with" Larry Taylor.

----------------------------------------

First it was
The Lord talking in the shower - and at a "sea" of teenagers
Then Jesus' masterpiece
Then God's placement
Now it's Satan's ploy.

----------------------

This is very disturbing to witness.

Anonymous said...

A tip for Indy & Elkhart folks on 11/11/2016:
Drink only from containers you open yourself.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 2:31,
AMEN.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10:55

Who is that?

Anonymous said...

Quality of discussion gets worse and worse.

Trudy said...

Am I getting this right? Is Lary Taylor's foster father a pastor, too?

" And um, and so he (Pastor G) proceeds to tell me, he said I got a phone call from the couple that has been fostering the guy that allegedly killed Amanda, for the past six years. And, uh, hes a pastor in town...."

What does "fostering" Larry Taylor for the past 6 years mean? Does it mean Larry Taylor was part of Pastor G's church?





Bingo3 said...

No Nic, they are two different quotes. I was just making the point that Davey sometimes says things like God connected the dots as if He orchestrated it all, even allowing the getaway car to be dropped on this certain street. Like God worked out details of the crime! Are you kidding me??"34:20 So, that morning when the guys broke into my house and then they left, they dropped the car off at their street. I -I'm telling you this because I want you to, I want you to see the DOTS that the Lord is connecting here"

But then he says it was orchestrated by evil:
"From day one I recognized this was not just a physical attack, but a spiritual one. There was no other way I could understand how all this could have happened in the hour and a half I was gone from my house, other than this was a strategically mapped out, carefully plotted ploy by evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world."

He just can't stop talking and contradicting himself.

And yes, Nic, I spent a little time yesterday looking back at some things about the church over the last year. They relaunched AGAIN in Feb 2015. In that relaunch service, Davey talks about how he doesn't know anyone because they are a new church. However, Resonate had been there since 2012. It was just a new location. He just wouldn't accept failure. He launched in the gymnasium. He talked about how the plan was to fill the 900 seats over and over. He had a music team, very expensive looking lighting and sound equipment, expensive website, etc. However, no members. Resonate was absolutely dead in the water. I have no idea how he was paying for it all. I had a friend who started a church with about 75-100 members and he still worked full-time. After five years, he decided to go full-time as a pastor and hire one secretary. Davey had a youth pastor and a music team, rent, web-site but very few members. He actually said out loud one Sunday there were only 7 people there. He wanted it so bad but he was not a good preacher. His sermons were awful, he said crude, violent things, his sermons were nonsensical but somehow in that narcissistic head of his, he was supposed to be huge. It was never gonna happen. I just wonder when he actually "snapped". What was the final straw? The pregnancy? How long before the Nov 10 did the orchestration happen? How long ahead of time was the statement written? No way he wrote that up organically the day she died. That selfish statement was ready to go before the event.

Nic said...

I'm bumping this from Bobcat's blog:

CJ said:
BTW, I misspelled John Gerton's name in the transcript. He is the head pastor at Christ Missionary Baptist Church, located 3.4 miles from Amanda and Davey's old house.
__________

When you're operating a business you always want to know who your competitors are. You do not want to be operating in a saturated market, fighting for a piece of the pie (market share). It costs a lot of money going head to head with someone already entrenched in the community, someone who understands the drug and gang culture. Maybe Pastor Gerton is tough competition. Maybe DB couldn't "compete" with Pastor Gerton, but figured he could provide something he needed that he didn't have the time to offer full-time (mentoring/at-risk intervention programs). That would be a passive revenue stream for DB in that Pastor Gerton would point to the problem and DB would be there. Pennies from heaven.

Maybe Taylor was a way to infiltrate Paster Gerton's business/church?

jmo

Anonymous said...

That statement was ready to go LONG before the event, like you said. I've thought that from the very beginning. There's no way a grieving husband could pull it together to write such a lengthy, flowery, comprehensive statement while his wife was lying in a medical center on life support - and even in the few days after she had "passed". Who thought he needed to write a statement anyway? Probably the same person who thought he needed to announce that he is the pastor of Resonate Church of Indianapolis in Amanda's obituary.

No, that statement was all part of it - it had all of the key words - "legacy", "all things work together for good", "the best is yet to come" and more ! - all rolled into a neat package that was released on the Resonate website literally hours after they removed life support.

And it's still hard to forget the video of the people smiling and speaking of Amanda in the past tense on the night of November 10th while she was still alive !

Nic said...
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Nic said...

Bingo3 said:
. I just wonder when he actually "snapped". What was the final straw? The pregnancy?


I would say yes. The new baby would force DB to put Amanda and the kids first. Amanda strikes me as being a realist. She would have insisted that their focus shift. There would have been a power shift. It would become Amanda's "agenda" (family first). I couldn't see her agreeing to abort her baby. "They"would not be losing the baby. Life would go from all about Davey and growing his church, to Davey "settling" on a small part-time business and working full-time elsewhere to earn a stable salary to feed and to take care of his family. The agenda would be family first, and it would be immediately. They had expenses to plan and budget for: A hospital stay for a baby is a few thousand dollars. They would need more baby furniture, another car seat, etc., etc.

The church would die so the baby could live.

jmo

Anonymous said...

Amanda strikes you as being a realist? How well do you know this woman?

Anonymous said...

Amanda "broke the news" to Davey - that doesn't sound like they were trying for another - it sounds like unplanned.

Trudy said...

Bobcat, is this correct? The foster father of LarryTaylor is a pastor.

CD is a pastor
Pastor G is a pastor
And Larry Taylor's foster father is a pastor.


". And um, and so he (pastorG) proceeds to tell me, he said I got a phone call from the couple that has been fostering the guy that allegedly killed Amanda, for the past six years. And, uh, he’s a pastor in town, good friend of mine, and he’s freaking out when they’re making all the arrests, and he thinks that you would be absolutely enraged at them"

Again. Is Larry Taylor's foster father a pastor? Thanks.



Nic said...

You know, I’m, I’m grateful that I don’t have these huge regrets. I’m grateful that Amanda and I weren’t in this middle of some like huge fight, and we weren’t on speaking terms; we couldn’ttalk, we couldn’t reconcile. We couldn’t talk to each other. We/were had this animosity or this tension between us I’m glad, and I’m grateful that that wasn’t the case some of you are living right now in life with tension between you and somebody else. You’ve got some animosity, you’ve got unresolved conflict that’s going on, and I’m telling you on this side of things, I’m so glad that we didn’t have that.

4:25 I’m so glad that there were some really good peace har, peaceful harm-uh, harmonious times, right before leading up to her death."

_____________

I think the above statement pretty much sums up their life right before she was murdered.

From DB's statements it sounds like he wasn't happy for a *long* time and he ruminated about an "out" for a *long* time.

I found the talk about DB being suicidal about being passed over interesting and I think it plays into this scenario. He has a survivor streak in him. He could not be "comfortable" with (absolute best case scenario,) a wife, two kids and a church of 120. With the way he is conducting his life today, I say no way.

jmo

Trudy said...

I think the murder was planned about a month before the 10th November, (pretty much as soon as Amanda "broke the news" that she was pregnant again. I think it was telegraphed in the Worship is a Weapon" sermon.

Nic said...

Anonymous at 8:28pm
Amanda strikes you as being a realist? How well do you know this woman?


She died so the church could live. DB said it himself.

She could walk away from planting a church that refused to germinate and be perfectly happy with a modest house, a husband, two kids and a dog (and two used cars). Resonate would not germinate. I believe her focus shifted to more practical activities like planning for an expanding family. That would require DB get a job working for someone else.

Sip and Savour.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 8:28pm,
Why do you think people have to know each other "well" to determine whether they are practical, are realists, or have their priorities in the right order? There is so much video of Amanda and Davey Blackburn. It's easy to see who is practical and a "realist" and who the dreamer is.

jmo

Trudy said...

It's interesting how often CD talks about his premonitions that the baby was going to die. (The premonition was so strong he thought she had miscarried on the 10th - despite the evidence to the contrary) The first trimester is the most dangerous time for a foetus. Amanda was at the very end of the first Trimester and was, in fact, entering into a relatively safe stage of pregnancy.

Anonymous said...

If it's true that Larry Taylor's foster father( for the last 6years) is a pastor, CD is going to have to revise his plan to kick satan in the nuts.

Nic said...

I wonder if Amanda put her big girl panties on and told (?) the assistant she had to go. That "they" could not afford her. I could see a huge fight over that. For sure. Amanda dismantling DB's dream? Interfering in "his" business? That would be epic.

jmo

Pastor Bobcat said...

Trudy @ 8:36,

I interpret it the same as you.

However; "Pastor" appears to be thrown around quite loosely in some circles. Apparently, it commands respect and gains (sometimes) undeserved positive assumptions about one's character.

I was a substitute youth director for awhile...most of my best friends are in religious life, so...I'm feeling an upgrade today. I'm now Pastor Bobcat.

Blessings

Bobcat said...

Nic @ 9:07

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/04/1312016-bring-me-ephod-sermon.html?m=1

DB 1/31/2016:
"C’mon, sometimes when you go through really tough stuff, man, people who used to heroize you will demonize you. Man, you really do find out who your friends are when you go through really tough stuff. Man, people were like “I got your back, bro,” and there all of the sudden something happens, and you wind up pregnant, and you’re…OH, gone."

There was discussion about this quote previously. I couldn't make sense of it and I'm still not sure. HJ may have interpreted it as DB speaking about teen pregnancy, considering his usual audience...but it seemed like the pregnant comment just snuck (leaked out?) up on him.

If he is talking about himself, can you make sense of it?

Bobcat said...

More...

You should watch the video at 39:50
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/overwhelmed-week-1-bring-me-the-ephod/

It seems like he needed a few seconds to recover after "pregnant" leaked out.

Anonymous said...

Amanda picked up trash and restored it. Amanda shopped at garage sales.

That's real.

Anonymous said...

Remember too in the Love Song Q&A week six about Davey saying there were ways to get around the porn filters on websites - that seemed to really take Amanda by surprise from her reaction. He didn't want his "activities" to be monitored and curtailed by her any longer.

And yeah from looking at his current lifestyle, as much as he said in Phil Byars' church something like "no way, I'm good with two little kids and a church of 120, I'm good with comfort" - he would not have been happy with the lifestyle with two kids and a dog and two used cars and his wife refinishing furniture.

Every time he mentioned what Amanda did, it was framed as "trash to treasure" and "see how Amanda could make something beautiful out of some junk found alongside the road, well Jesus is going to do the same thing with this situation" - it wasn't like he was proud of what she did.

Davey Blackburn wants to be a rock star - he wants to be idolized - he wants to be rich and famous - he wants a standard of living that might only have been possible if a life insurance policy paid out. He loves having water brought to him on stage and having a green room set up before he goes out. He is dreaming of dollar signs from appearances and a book deal and an album.

To not have his internet habits monitored now is just icing on the cake.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat said...
More...

You should watch the video at 39:50
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/overwhelmed-week-1-bring-me-the-ephod/

It seems like he needed a few seconds to recover after "pregnant" leaked out.



TOTALLY. I just watched it. He was like a deer in the headlights for awhile, stumbling, completely lost his train of thought.

Hey Jude said...

Bobcat. @ 9.27 - That wasn't me - my memory is not always the best, but I don't recall commenting on that.

Trudy said...

Bobcat, I disagree that the term "pastor" is used loosely. Pastor is quite specific. Why would Pastor G tell CD that Larry Taylor's foster father is a pastor, if it wasn't true?

Bobcat said...

HJ,

Will you comment now? Can you make any sense of it?

Trudy,

I wasn't disagreeing that he is a pastor, as Pastor G described.

Anonymous said...

"He is a pastor in town."

It's not ambiguous. Larry Taylor's foster father is a pastor.

Anonymous said...

This is a f$cking hilarious video (I think the guy is serious but it is hilarious)

Hillary Clinton is a Robot (proof)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNoCSx2XxO0

Anonymous said...

said...
Nic @ 9:07

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/04/1312016-bring-me-ephod-sermon.html?m=1

DB 1/31/2016:
"C’mon, sometimes when you go through really tough stuff, man, people who used to heroize you will demonize you. Man, you really do find out who your friends are when you go through really tough stuff. Man, people were like “I got your back, bro,” and there all of the sudden something happens, and you wind up pregnant, and you’re…OH, gone."

There was discussion about this quote previously. I couldn't make sense of it and I'm still not sure. HJ may have interpreted it as DB speaking about teen pregnancy, considering his usual audience...but it seemed like the pregnant comment just snuck (leaked out?) up on him.

If he is talking about himself, can you make sense of it?
October 11, 2016 at 9:27 PM


The pregnancy remark seemed to be made to teens in the audience, talking about dealing with problems that overwhelmed and being deserted by everyone.

He did not look like a deer in the headlights, unless the remark is interpreted to be about him, then it's possible to imagine that reaction.

Bingo3 said...

http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/live-worship-album-recording

Pushing the worship album.

"When you walk through seasons of shock, trauma, and grief you realize that often the only thing that can truly reach into the depth of your soul and heal some dark corners of your heart is music. I can’t tell you how many songs, especially worship songs, I’ve listened to on repeat just to salve the wounds of my heart."

Who is his creative writer? Gag me! What grief? I guess he channeled his grief through music in his new 50,000 SUV or sitting around his new pool or while cooking on his new fancy grill. (did you guys catch that Weston bought Davey a new grill on Father's Day. Another slap in the face to Amanda)

Nothing is Wasted!! I smell a worship album flop! Davey expects a top seller. Nothing like Marketing a Murder even on the anniversary of her death.

Bobcat said...

"The devil flees at the sound of God's people lifting up the name of Jesus. I want to make a statement to the enemy (and frankly to my own heart) that Satan has no claim on either our lives or Amanda’s legacy."

God will forgive DB, but there is still earthly justice to pay. The only way your heart will be still is to admit, and submit. If you somehow manage to avoid prison, live a simple, quiet life (a self-imposed sentence, if you will) focused on fatherhood (NOT "buddy"hood!) and helping victims of domestic violence...you might be able to pay your spiritual debts in full before the end of this life.

Selling Amanda's legacy for your own gain will only continue the rot. For starters, take down your desperate Jesus-pose rock star photo and put Amanda ALONE on your album cover.

Disgusting.

>end rant

Bingo3 said...

The Jesus Rock Star pose says it all, Bobcat! He makes a statement with that alone. He loves that picture. Look at it, arms are up all around him, he is on stage, he is in the center. It is disgusting.

I noticed that about "my own heart" also. He somehow thinks he has cleansed himself from the orchestrated evil, Amanda is in heaven, he finally has the fame and power he was so desperate to obtain and in his mind, world revival is happening. Stranger than fiction.

Nic said...

@ Bobcat:

Hold on, David’s mighty men, whose wives have all been taken, they say, this is David’s fault. Okay, if you go back and read the story of the mighty men and we’re going to talk about it in a couple of weeks, it was their choice to follow David. They did this on their own volition. David didn’t coerce them. He didn’t manipulate them. David was sitting in a cave on the run from Saul and it says that all of these men who were distressed discontented and in debt came around David and David grew them up into his mighty men and all of a sudden they get in a situation where they get things stolen from them, too, and they point the finger at David and say, “It’s all his fault”. "C’mon, sometimes when you go through really tough stuff, man, people who used to heroize you will demonize you. Man, you really do find out who your friends are when you go through really tough stuff. Man, people were like “I got your back, bro,” and there all of the sudden something happens, and you wind up pregnant, and you’re…OH, gone.”

… Natural tendency says, “We’re victims. We’re victims.” You see it’s so easy for us to take on this victim mentality. Now here’s where it gets crazy. Were they victims? Yes, yes, it’s okay to say yes. They were victims of a heinous crime. But listen there's a difference between being a victim and taking on a victim mentality. You see, you can be a victim, but when the spirit of God is living in you, the bible says that we can be victorious through our circumstances. So, so we don’t have to take on a victim mentality that says ‘whoa is me, it’s all their fault. See that’s what a victim says, “it’s all their fault. It-it’s all his fault.” Hey, last I checked, the only person who can control your heart and your emotions is you. And that’s great, isn’t it? That’s the only thing the enemy can’t steal from us. He can steel our stuff. But guess what? He can’t steel our salvation. Right? I mean he can steel our possessions from us. We can get in a car wreck. We can have things happen to us and while he can steel our possessions… li-listen, he, he can’t steel our praise. There’s something about what happens in here that is “ours”, that is sealed when you are a follower of Christ that cannot be touched. Which is why it’s so incredible and important for you to see how David responded in the situation. He reacted with weeping. But he responded with rejoicing. Watch this, watch this, it says this: But David strengthened himself in the Lord.


volition
coerce
manipulate
situation where [they] got things stolen from them (too)
something happens
pregnant
victim
a heinous crime
victorious
control
“Hey, last “I” checked the only person who can control your heart and your emotions is you."
salvation


sal·va·tion
salˈvāSH(ə)n/
nounTHEOLOGY
deliverance from sin and its consequences, believed by Christians to be brought about by faith in Christ.
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I'm not familiar with this Bible story. I've Googled it, but nothing comes up about wives being taken and I don't have the patience to research what he's going on about. This sermon was given after Amanda's murder, right? He's all over the place. Is the intent of this homily to make it a life lesson and to speak to taking control of [his] emotions and refusing to adopt a victim mentality after Amanda's murder (hence reference to wives taken and response/reaction speech)? Is DB leaking his h.s. secret wherein they had to move away? Is he ministering to the teenagers in the audience (being accountable for self/lack of self-control and consequential teen pregnancy?)

In context, I believe he's speaking about Amanda's murder and the consequential impact on him, and I wonder if he identifies with David and feeling betrayed/abandoned. i.e., I got your back bro. Not.

Did KW abandon Davey?

Nic said...

Does DB come from a ministry where they pledge their purity? i.e., where someone's virginity could be "stolen"?

Am I wrong recalling that he was a popular and talented baseball player back in h.s.?

jmo

Anonymous said...

And in spite of all the handwringing and investigating, none of you can even begin to connect Davey with the murder much less offer any proof. It's funny to observe.

All you can do is transcribe, fantasize and try to interpret. The lot of you must feel very frustrated judging by the daily, all day posting and being so paranoid and threatened by those who don't agree with you. Do you do this for a living? Far as I can see, it's down to two or three people.

Nic said...
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Nic said...

So, so we don’t have to take on a victim mentality that says ‘whoa is me, it’s all their fault. See that’s what a victim says, “it’s all their fault. It-it’s all his fault.” Hey, lastI checked, the only person who can control your heart and your emotions is you. And that’s great, isn’t it? That’s the only thing the enemy can’t steal from us. He can steel our stuff. But guess what? He can’t steel our salvation. Right?

IMO, the above is leakage (his fault). IMO, this is DB talking, not DB recanting David from the bible story.

Note the change in pronoun when "the enemy" is introduced (he). He is who judged him and took from him what he valued.

jmo

Anonymous said...

Worthy review:

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/12/amanda-blackburn-murder-investigation.html

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 12:06 said:
And in spite of all the handwringing and investigating, none of you can even begin to connect Davey with the murder much less offer any proof. It's funny to observe.


The only way investigators could move past DB was if unknowns/outsiders had been introduce to the story/house. That doesn't preclude prior knowledge.

jmo

mom2many said...

The passage about David and his men losing their wives comes from 1 Samuel 30. It is an interesting choice for Davey to preach from because the men essentially abandoned their wives and children and left them defenseless, and so they were vulnerable when the enemy came to destroy the city.

You'll have to flip back a few chapters to get the wider context of the storyline. In a nutshell, David had run from Saul, who sought to murder him. He ran and sought comfort with Israel's enemy, the Philistines. He didn't trust the Lord to protect him. He hid out with the enemy for a year and four months, before the Philistines sent him back to his people. When he and the men returned, another enemy that Saul had failed to defeat, sacked their city and ran off with their wives and children.

Anonymous said...

Prior knowledge is not a fact, and so it has not been proven.

Nic said...

It has not been proven because DB runs a "cash business". A cash business that does not report its earnings to the IRA. It's impossible to "follow the money" when there are no ledger sheets to audit. Although, I wouldn't mind seeing a record of his cash flow after Amanda died. That might be interesting.

jmo

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 12:55,

Guilty knowledge has been indicated. Repeatedly.

Anonymous said...

Guilty knowledge has been "indicated" by SA. I get that, but that really is not proof. If it were, why is LE not connecting the dots? There is just as much incriminating indication of guilt in other areas of his behavior. Maybe LE has investigated all the "indications".

Nic said...

Maybe Taylor was a way to infiltrate Paster Gerton's business/church? jmo

I just had a sinister thought. Reflecting upthread or it might have been on another post. Remember DB “imagining” coming fact-to-face with the guys in jail and ministering them/“forgiving” them? Given DB’s lust for “all eyes” on him, do you think maybe this was his way to somehow tee up that opportunity? I wonder how many would tune in for that! What a chapter that would make!

jmo

Nic said...

*face-to-face

Anonymous said...

Maybe LE is waiting until after the trial in March...

Nic said...

@ Anonymous at 1:55pm,

It could be that is the case. It could be they were limited. From what I learned from watching one of LE's pressers, there was a need to persuade the public the amount of resources available to serve the community. There has been a merging of resources to help fill the "gaps". Crime is high. I think it boils down to "downloading" the cost of investigation onto the defence attorneys. Correct me if I'm wrong: The defence's budget and funding is separate from the LE's (from a different source?) and it's (I'm thinking) not rationed... except for the public defender's salary which is capped.

jmo

Anonymous said...

Yes Nic, that would be a great photo-op wouldn't it. It might even be covered by Good Morning America's cameras. Don't think for a second that if Davey was going to the jail, he would't want as many cameras on him as possible.

I can see it now - breaking news -
Davey Blackburn, the grieving pastor and husband whose wife was shot and killed by home invaders last year, comes face to face in a meeting with his wife's killers and chooses to forgive them and shakes their hands and ministers to them.

Just the fact that he said this in his appearances at NewSpring indicates that it's in the plans. He would do anything he could to make this happen.

Anonymous said...

And he will hand out the Resonate Worship Team albums for free to the crowd because they will have ordered thousands of them and only sold one hundred.

Anonymous said...

One hundred is actually being optimistic - I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a handful, like was said yesterday, to the fanboys and to those who actually recorded/sang on it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Maybe LE is waiting until after the trial in March...

Nic said...
@ Anonymous at 1:55pm,

It could be that is the case. It could be they were limited. From what I learned from watching one of LE's pressers, there was a need to persuade the public the amount of resources available to serve the community. There has been a merging of resources to help fill the "gaps". Crime is high. I think it boils down to "downloading" the cost of investigation onto the defence attorneys. Correct me if I'm wrong: The defence's budget and funding is separate from the LE's (from a different source?) and it's (I'm thinking) not rationed... except for the public defender's salary which is capped.

jmo


So the prosecutor's office stated that the 911 call could not be released because it was part of an active (ongoing?) investigation - I think the defense are investigating Davey and connecting the dots. I'm trying to see where what Davey said or didn't say on the 911 call would make a difference when prosecuting or defending those in custody. I don't see where the 911 call sheds light on anyone but himself and his actions that morning.

If they are investigating him, he is actually helping them connect the dots, on an ongoing basis, every time he posts.

Anonymous said...

The active, ongoing investigation does not include Davey. The 911 call is being used as evidence in the investigation. Get used to it.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 6:02,
Are you LE? You have no idea who might be included or who might not. Get USED to it.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone in Indianapolis or elsewhere know when the first trial date is ?

It seems almost certain,
well I am hoping anyway, that the 911 call will be released early on during the trials.

For some reason March 2017 stands out as when it might be?

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 4:48 said:

I don't see where the 911 call sheds light on anyone but himself and his actions that morning.

Yes. So many cases go to trial and their calls are released prior to trial. This one must be a humdinger.

There is so much street surveillance they have. It'll be interesting to learn the exact comings and goings of each player, and if there are any that have not been arrested. I'm ASSuming there are, but LE spoke to "snitch", so maybe they were managing the public's expectations about any further arrests/time spent on investigating "whodunit".

jmo


sore thumb said...

Some of you are still in fantasy land about what the defense will be able to use to create reasonable doubt. There's a high probability the 911 call will come out during trial, but what Davey says will have no bearing beyond how he describes the scene/his wife's condition as it relates to the evidence against the accused.

I'm wasting my breath, I know.

sore thumb said...

Nic, sooooo many 911 calls are held until trial -- a fact you and others continue to ignore.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 6:46,
Bumped from:

Blogger Bobcat said...
BJJ @ 5:57,

By now, if Larry's DNA had been found on Amanda's private zones, the match would be known and the charges would be reflected.

Larry's Charges: https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6Ill6STBNREl3TmpFME1EQXhPamN4TkRBd09URXlPRGs9In19

Jalen's Charges: https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6IllUZ3pNVEl3TmpFME1EQXhPamM0TnpBd09URXlNVEU9In19

Diano's Charges:
https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb2tlbiI6Ik9EQXpNVEl3TmpFME1EQXhPalUxTkRFd05ESXlOR1U9In19

October 3, 2016 at 6:16 PM

Anonymous said...

Just because Taylor's DNA wasn't found on her private parts doesn't mean he didn't sexually assault her, Sherlock.

Anonymous said...

"Obsession is the single most wasteful human activity, because with an obsession you keep coming back and back and back to the same question and never get an answer."

~ Norman Mailer

:0)

Nic said...

sore thumb said...
Some of you are still in fantasy land about what the defense will be able to use to create reasonable doubt. There's a high probability the 911 call will come out during trial, but what Davey says will have no bearing beyond how he describes the scene/his wife's condition as it relates to the evidence against the accused.

I'm wasting my breath, I know.


If the defence calls everyone before DB and their testimony leaves a heaping pile of doubt in their wake, all eyes are on DB, the statistical probability. To be clear, these upcoming trials are about creating reasonable doubt for Taylor, Gordon and Watson. Evidence has to at least support Taylor was in the house. Will his DNA be present? Did Amanda's DNA hit on the get away car? If surveillance shows Taylor (et al) did not enter the Blackburn house, a loiterer does not a murderer make. The other two were busy trying to syphon $400 from an ATM while the shooting was supposedly taking place, so they didn't shoot Amanda, for sure... If all the surveillance cameras shot is Taylor arriving but not entering the Blackburn residence, then who shot Amanda? Better yet, would street surveillance footage show Taylor even reacting to the sound of gunfire at appx. 6:45am?

It's a tangled web, non?

Nic said...

*If all the surveillance cameras show Taylor...

Nic said...

Anonymous said...
Just because Taylor's DNA wasn't found on her private parts doesn't mean he didn't sexually assault her, Sherlock.


October 12, 2016 at 7:36 PM

That's right, Anonymous. Bobcat was pointing out, based on the links, that had Taylor, Gordon or Watson sexually assaulted Amanda the charges would have been updated/upgraded accordingly.

We all agree that if any semen was present and it was DBs, LE could have ASSumed she hadn't been sexually assaulted. i.e., his semen "belonged" there.

jmo

Nic said...

*if not or.

Nic said...

@ 7:37pm

Not that it bothers you.

:0)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anon @ 6:02,
Are you LE? You have no idea who might be included or who might not. Get USED to it.
October 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM


Haha well, genius, the fact is that if it implicated Davey in any way, he would have been arrested. Unless......oh, I get it. You imagine that it will be a big dramatic scene during the trial where the finger will be pointed at Davey, "He did it, your honor!"

Get real.

Anonymous said...

I love DRAMA!! Thanks for that,it would make a very nice scene, indeed.

Nic said...

Gees Louise, I'm smart!

Let's think about this. There are a lot of "if's" but lets connect the dots...

If cell phone pings are correct and Taylor did not arrive until 6:36, and street surveillance shows that he did not enter any house on Sunnyfield between when he was dropped and when he was picked-up, (supposition based on his choice not mask his face in lieu of cover in either house he supposedly hit;) if surveillance has him anywhere near the house when the neighbour said she heard two shots and what sounded like a woman scream, Taylor should at least *react* to hearing something, right? Given his alleged proclivity to guns and violence, the sound would at least have him stopping and looking in the direction of gun fire, right? So the investigative evidence shifts from what one witness reports hearing in the APC, to the jury seeing what she supposedly heard (via the *reaction* surveillance captured of Taylor hearing the alleged gun fire).

I wonder if the evil powers that live in the supernatural realm and have been given dominion of this world, ever thought to plot that part.

jmo

Nic said...

*supposition based on his choice to mask his face in lieu of taking cover in either house he supposedly hit;

Nic said...

I wonder if it was common for Mel to be locked in the spare room every night. I wonder if LE ever looked on the back of the door to the room Mel was found in, to see if she had scratched the back of the door to try and get out (to help Amanda).

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