Wednesday, September 7, 2016

The Murder of Amanda Blackburn: Analysis Conclusion

The murder of Amanda Blackburn resulted in no small amount of speculative interest across the country.  

The murder, itself, was shocking:  a young, beautiful pregnant woman was murdered in her home.  

As shocking as the brutal murder was, it was the victim's own husband who further shocked the public with his statements described as "crass", "cold", "unfeeling" "disinterested" but, for statement analysis, something quite different.  

He responded publicly and repeatedly, in ways that shocked the public even further, perhaps, than the murder itself.  

With his online videos, the public learned much about him including the basic fact that he is obsessed with numerical success and that his wife, Amanda, stood in the way of his success.  He even went as far as saying her initial pregnancy was a crisis for him and that she frequently complained that he was not spending time with her; but about his 'business' of getting numbers out to follow him.  

His videos reveal talented theatrics and choreographed presentations, of which, just prior to her shooting, one with a prop gun waved around by him.  

A week later, she was dead and his initial reaction was to capitalize on the advertising opportunity her death afforded him.  

The public waited for him to show fear of the killers, if not for him, a man of 'great faith', than at least for his son or the neighborhood. 

He did not.

The public waited for him to speak words of bereavement only to find his statements were made without even mentioning his wife's name.  

There are those who have defended the husband, Davey Blackburn, emphatically due to loyalty to a specific faith, while there are others who have not simply responded with the known details of the case, but who attacked the defenders, projecting their own feelings about faith into the discussion.  

Still, there is a dismissal of his words by claiming mental illness or psychological disturbance on his part; specifically delusional or narcissistic (the twain do not meet) use of the pronoun "we."


Its difficult to find many pictures of Amanda without Davey
This shows an acute lack of understanding of mental health issues commonly called 'schizophrenia', or disassociation, as well as a basic understanding of  narcissism within the talented.  

The perfect storm comes together when narcissism, obsession, drive and talent meet historical or habitual deception. 

We often say, "the liar is a murderer in training" due to the pragmatic world view where one lies to get what one wants and with lies that are successful, comes desensitization and increase in frequency and scope.  Hence, the liar puts himself and his own life above others, and unchecked, the end is murder...murder, if necessary for self.  

 This is also a bit of insight into why this type of profiling has low accuracy rating and isn't actively stood upon in the field of investigations.  

Nothing shows the accuracy and success as the words that come out of a person's own mouth.  It is, in this sense, almost impossible to lie.  One may murder, one may commit arson, rape and other heinous crimes, but once a subject is in the free editing process, he will give it all away.    

Statistical profiling, far more accurate, has been discarded due to politicians' exploitation of it.  

Statement Analysis profiling recognizes that words reveal the speaker's:

Background
History
Priority
Personality 

Studying Statement Analysis Profiling allows for precision; not vague declarations that cannot be stood firmly upon.    

Editing Process

As the husband of victim, Amanda Blackburn recounts 'what happened', it is impossible for him to tell us everything, therefore, he must edit his account before producing words:

Of a vocabulary of more than 20,000 words, what words to choose;
where to place such words (syntax)
what tenses and pronouns to use
what order to place the information...

This takes place in less than a micro-second in time and reveals:

The speaker's background information, including sex, age, etc, 
his experiences in life;
his priority in the account, and lastly, 

his personality. 

To dismiss his use of the pronoun "we", for example, rather than viewing what context produces "we" and what context produces "I" is to show an intense misunderstanding of both human nature and basic  communication, making 'profiling' an undisciplined work akin to 'psychic' guessing. Even the most extreme narcissist who do speak of themselves, in the second person, for example, are noted as all others are:  baseline reference point.  Even in behavioral profiling, norms are established just as it is for statement analysis (or even body language analysis).  If narcissism produces "we", under what context is it seen, and under what context is it abandoned?  This is to establish context within analysis.  

To claim that a public speaker is so mentally ill or so narcissistic as to be incapable of separating himself from Divinity in using the pronoun "we" instead of "I" is not only to not understand mental illness, narcissism, context and baseline pattern, but it is to not understand that Blackburn is an educated and talented public speaker who principally relies upon persuasion.  For those of faith, this point is even stronger:  his psycho-sexual religious ideology is, at heart, pragmatic.  If numbers come, it is positive.  If numbers do not come, it is negative.  

Next, the conclusions here are not simply analysis of the words, but behavioral analysis, both pre and post crime.  The opinions expressed here particularly in this regard, comes from more than one dozen professionals, including those with decades experience in homicide investigation, ranging from local, state and federal law enforcement, to the professionals within psychology and communication.  The representation of the opinion is singular; as the elements were all agreed upon, after much analytical work and discussion.  

The source of information is public record.  No cases assisted upon are published in the Statement Analysis blog.  

Narrative 

Amanda Blackburn was sexually assaulted and murdered when a gang of young black males entered her home while her husband was not inside the house, but  at the gym, en route to or from the gym, or in his driveway.  With this evidence, police quickly cleared Davey Blackburn as a suspect.  As the analysis will show, this immediate clearance of the husband was not warranted, nor wise.  The pressure of publicity also cannot be ignored.  The sexual assault classification is due to the position of her clothing in the murder.  

Amanda Blackburn was pregnant, married to Davey Blackburn, pastoring a church in which emphasis is incessantly placed upon pop psychology "success" driven agenda of populating the church.  

Statistically, when a pregnant woman is murdered, the male partner (husband, boyfriend, ex) is the most likely one responsible.  

Analytical Questions:

Since the murderers are now caught, the analysis seeks to learn whether or not the victim's husband had any knowledge of what happened to Amanda, which can range from facilitating the murder, down to knowledge that his home was to be entered that morning for nefarious reasons.  Therefore, the question is not singular, though "guilty knowledge" is sought to be discerned.  

Behavioral Analysis 

Behavioral analysis simply looks at the behavior of a subject (D. Blackburn) before, during and after the homicide.  

Did the subject show any signals of anticipation before the crime?
Did the subject show signals of benefiting from the crime?  In domestic homicides, behavioral analysis seeks to learn the quality of the relationship, whether there was infidelity, or whether divorce was an undesirable alternative.  
Did the subject show any signals of knowledge, via behavior, that would cause him to, for example, not fear reprisal upon his son's life, or his own?  

We look, in particular, for 'stressors' or unusual and straining circumstances that can precede domestic homicide.  

Statement Analysis

Statement Analysis is the most effective way of discerning truth from deception, exceeding that of the polygraph, voice stress analyzer, and all other means currently employed.  In this case, statements made both before and after the homicide are examined to learn whether or not an answer to the analytical questions can be obtained. Would Blackburn's statements reveal someone with some form of knowledge of the crime?  

I. Life Prior to the Homicide

Much is learned in viewing the unusual circumstances in the life of Davey Blackburn prior to the murder of his wife.  Due to this circumstances, much sample is available online, including both video and written statements.  His connection to Perry Noble also has provided a great deal of information.  

Readers who are interested in understanding the conclusion of the analysis should simply search on this blog for the many articles with analysis on the case.  

What do we know from this background?

1.  Deception 

We know that Blackburn had serious issues growing up.  Those who understand the origin of deviancy know that those who fabricate reality for their own advantage are either properly taught in early childhood, or they are not and even those who claim strong religious crisis experience, later realize that personality traits in childhood are very difficult to over come. Children are born liars and those who are not taught, no matter the reason for the negligence of duty, will become habitual liars and it is their success in lying that will determine how much damage they do in society.  The greater the intellect of the deceiver, often the greater the damage, or, in the least, the propensity for damage.  

A Biblical example of such is the thief.  The cultural mandate was "thou shalt not steal" which was prescribed to be taught at a very early age, repeatedly, along with negative consequences for such.  Yet, what does the Bible say about the adult thief, who now wishes to amend his ways?  

Carefully consider what this highlights in human nature:

For the adult, the directive is to "steal no more" (inner repentance) but a natural remedy was also prescribed to combat the habitual selfishness behind theft:  "let him that stole, steal no more, but work willingly with his own hands, to give to others..."

Those who took that which belonged to others had to not only internally change (no more theft and a change of attitude) but the practical application was that he now had to give money away to others.  This is a powerful antidote to theft and that it is not compulsory is even more fascinating.  Will someone who has only sought to benefit self not only be able to overcome this habit, but actually deny self satisfaction, and give to others?  

It is a good reminder how personality patterns (lying and stealing are cousins; both are forms of theft with lying the passing of false communicative currency) are near impossible to overcome and take special remedy.  

Statistically, those who fabricate reality will grow in the desensitization process right up to falsely testifying in capital crimes to murder.  As Cindy Anthony put it, "just because someone tells a few mis truths, doesn't make them a killer..." in reference to her killer daughter, Casey Anthony, who felt that her daughter was getting too much attention and getting in the way of her social life, so she killed her. 

Just like that.  

That Casey was known to fabricate reality from childhood, including lying when no lie was even needed, was not lost on the public; only the jury, who, perhaps, hoped for their own cashing in on infamy.   

Those who are not properly corrected at a very early age, pose a serious risk for offenses against society later.  Thus the study of criminals and human empathy. 

Those in prison, like those law abiding, were both told,

"Do not hit your sister!" but the criminals lacked something that the law abiding was given:  human empathy.

"Don't hit your sister, it hurts her."  

It is within these early life lessons that language speaks and habits of speech formed.  

Blackburn self reported that he lied so severely in high school that it caused everyone in his life, from peers to faculty, to turn on him.  The lie itself, by the reaction, was antisocial  For trouble makers, generally peers or authority will turn against them, but not both.  The lie was destructive and in the minds of many, likely "unforgivable."  What he did was to put himself above all others, and benefit in a way that would come through the destruction of at least one other person.  

That it happened, not at age 6, but as a teen, is alarming.  It is a strong signal of the narcissism that was to become on full display for audiences via his video taping of himself.  

Pop Entertaining Psychology Positive Thinking Meets  post MTV sexuality, Marries Religious Belief Captured on Video 

Blackburn's belief system is best viewed through his own words, rather than that of historic Christianity.  His adulation of Perry Noble, and his insatiable desire to satisfy himself are only slightly hidden beneath the arch of religion.  Religious structure is a medium of which he can fulfill his ambitions.  

This means Christianity must be subordinated to self, rather than self subordinating to principle.  

2.  Narcissistic Behavior 

Prior to the murder of Amanda, we were able to view video tapes of Davey Blackburn in which the narcissism was readily discerned.  The videos (and statements) show that within his personality there is a desire to place himself above all others.  Linguistically, he placed himself above others, beginning first with his wife, which would eventually place himself equal to and even above, Divinity.  

The narcissism sometimes revealed itself in insulting ways towards the murder victim, herself.  His discomfort at 'sharing the spotlight' with her showed itself in subtle ways, from correcting her to minimizing her.  

In Statement Analysis, we look for small, subtle ways in which the mind of the subject reveals itself linguistically, by justifying the death.  This can range from "well, the baby would not stop crying" (blaming the child for being shaken) to 

'Amanda died so the church would live' statement in which Amanda was the "sacrifice" who "gave her life" for the "church."

Blackburn took this one even further:  he claimed that he and "God" actually discussed this where God "asks" Blackburn if he would have chosen to give up Amanda for the "church."

This puts the arbitration, even in hindsight, as to whether Amanda lives or dies, with Blackburn, himself.  This makes it much more than a "justification" for her death.  


3.  Ambition 

Blackburn was open about his ambitions and his own description of what "success" is within his personal subjective dictionary.  His ambitious nature was such that he was incapable of masquerading it, even shortly after Amanda's murder.  While mankind grieves, he was busy counting numbers, seemingly unaware of how this might appear as crass, commercialism or profiteering.  Even the 'sleaziest' of politicians put a thin veil over opportunistic exposure.  Blackburn showed a complete lack of self awareness but when publicly commented upon, he quickly retreated to religious argument.  

In one short video well before the murder, he was seen berating his followers for their failure to fulfill his self imposted numeric account for new followers.  (This was one of the first video examples where, when his emotion increased, he used the pronoun "I" making his statement quite strong as he castigated them).  Remember, this was "their failure" to bring people; not 'Davey's failure' to attract the numerical figure.  

We take careful note of those who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions, linguistically, by distancing language, including the use of the pronoun "we" when only "I" is appropriate.  

Ambition coupled with habitual deception yields danger.  

4.   Sexuality 

Observed his mentor, Perry Noble, "something" was "not right" about Blackburn, and the remedy, according to Noble, to fix this was a female.  

Blackburn showed an obsession with convincing his audience that he had a powerful heterosexual drive.  In this, he indicated his wife for failure and his own obsession to the point where he described himself in capable of having conversation at dinner unless he first used his wife to satisfy himself sexually.  

This "need to persuade" that his sex drive was heterosexual (he links it continually to his wife) and not same sex attraction (SSA) was further evidenced in his clothing and appearance.  Even shifting a reference point from Christianity as seen in most Protestantism, he bearing in the videos showed the need to accent his physical attributes, with the use of, for example, tight fitting clothing.  Commenting on the videos, many people said that they were difficult to watch for very long,  as he used choreographed body language as an entertainer.  


Behavioral Analysis 

Post Crime

As we examine points one and two, I have included a specific commentary on Christianity due to the 'defense' of Blackburn's behavior and words being ascribed to "faith." 

1.  No fear of killers.  The husband who's wife and pre born child were murdered in a home invasion showed no fear of the killers, for either himself, or even for his son. 

2.  Focus upon exploitation and profiteering rather than grieving.  

This is unnatural and regarding faith, consider that the Bible does not promise, nor teach that the Christian life, on earth, suspends human emotions, which include fears, anxieties, disappointments, grieving, and so on.  In Christ, we are given written examples of Christ weeping over Jerusalem, a city that He knew would be destroyed by Rome in just a generation, as well as other such examples.  

This "hyper faith" movement is not new and the popular 'emotion' over reason is within the Church and in secular culture.  

A home invasion is a traumatic event and this will produce both hormonal reaction and revelation within speech. 

A murder is even more traumatic. 

A close-relative (spouse/ the "one person") murder increases this;

A child murdered, on top of the other elements, is severe.  

To not react to such, but to show not "courage" but apathy, towards the still on-the-loose killers, in a "complete mystery" 
of "why were we targeted" will produce profound fear and activity, including protection of his son.  

The lack of concern of the perpetrators for himself and his son suggests knowledge that he and his son would not be targeted.  

Consider:  those who simply believe that Blackburn was set free from his marriage, something he clearly showed hindered him from his goal (numerical success; pragmatism) must consider that one so driven on numerical success would, yes, be relieved of the burden of his wife, whom he complained about openly, but would still be concerned that his own success would be hindered by the gang members coming back for him.  


3.  Equal or above Divinity, Authority over others, including father in law shows the union between a very troubled deceptive narcissistic personality and religion, which is now met with a showman's talent.  

The videos reveal confident strut, choreographed body posture and facial expressions, and a command of the English language.  

Not only are pronouns instinctive in the English language (therefore, 100% accuracy rate) but consider the subject, himself, as a talented public speaker.  


These points are all covered in the various entries of analysis, in particular, his words that brought these conclusions.  Please see individual entries for deeper understanding.  

4.  Linguistic Indicators of Guilt

These are dealt with in more depth in other articles.  I have taken a team of top analysts in the country through the statements, carefully, and the conclusion has been the same:

Linguistic indicators of guilty knowledge of the crime. 

What was the first thing he said to the public after finding his wife murdered and the perpetrator (s) at large?

“It’s impossible to communicate all the emotions my heart has been forced to process. My wife was such a beautiful, gracious, loving woman of God. I have not only lost my ministry partner and support, but also my very best friend. There is no way to prepare yourself for circumstances like these. As deeply as I am hurting, I am hopeful and confident that good things will come of this. I rest in the truth of Romans 8:28 that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and who are called according to His purpose.
“Amanda made it her life’s calling to love and serve everyone she knew. Even more, she has made it her life’s mission to see as many people as possible come to know Jesus as their personal Savior.”
“I know that in her death and legacy even more people will come to a saving faith in Christ. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt her desire for me would be to continue what we’ve started here in Indy. I hold firm to the belief that God is still good, that He takes our tragedy and turns it into triumph, and that the best truly is yet to come.”

If you go back to the original analysis, you will see that this is very concerning.  He does not mention Amanda by name, which is distancing language at a time where the most closeness in language is expected.  This shocked analysts, initially, who could not grasp how a man could so quickly 'move on' from this murder and how he could make a statement without her name.  That he turned to sloganism so quickly was just the tip of a very ugly ice berg.


He went on a TV circuit and continued to avoid using her name; instead turning it into an advertising campaign for himself.  Those of you that understand somewhat of Statement Analysis and repetition cannot help but note his focus:  

DB: Oh my gosh, I wish I could tell the world everything about her, I wish I had the time to but, um, I think what I would really want the world to know is that she loved Jesus with her whole heart. And she loved people, and she spent her life pouring her life out to people. She served people, she uh, loved the people that were unloveable, gave hope to people who um, didn’t have hope, didn’t think they had a future, and um, she just absolutely gave everything she had to her Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Note:  "people" as in numbers within the crowd...Recall that mere days after the brutal murder he was able to recall the specific number of "people" who 'attended' his business via the internet.  

He went on to pushing for numbers for her "Christian memorial service", which, itself, was shocking as it was not Christian, and it was not a memorial for Amanda, but its focus was "sex" and Davey Blackburn, himself, with bizarre rambling from his mentor, Perry Noble, not discussing the Resurrection of Christ, but "Davey's good looks."

On Television, he was asked 'Who did this?" and "Why?"  His answer was not challenging for analysts:


CD: Um, ya know, the ah investigators um, haven’t given me ah, a, ton of details that um, they’ve given me the details that they’ve released to, to the public as well, an, an so we, we’ve been really tryin’ to do over the past week is um, is, is, kinda figure out , we, ya know, how to grieve the loss an, an how to, how to move forward from here an how to work thru all of this , it’s devastating to the family an , and um, ya know the fu, funeral this past Sunday was just an amazing celebration of, of her life an, we just um, we were so grateful for, for friends and family comin’ to show support, and the nation um, there were over 6500 people tuned in across the world um, and, and, what was so great about Amanda is she was so selfless, that she didn’t want here life to be put on display ever, but she wanted Jesus to be put on display. We feel like that’s what happened at the celebration service, that Jesus was lifted up and people’s lives have been changed because of that.


The use of the pronoun "we" is not, by this talented and highly manipulative public speaker, a 'narcissistic slip' nor is it indicative of mental disorder.  Even as he equates himself with Divinity, he does so for the purpose of usurping authority over others, for his personal gain.  His short speech at his father-in-law's church should be read to be believed.  

Grieving. 

"We" have to figure out how to grieve; not "I" which is not expected under any circumstances.  

"We" did not lose a wife.  "We" did not lose a child.  The marriage is between him and Amanda; no one else; and they were "one flesh", as one 'person.'  There is no more of an "personal" intrusion into this than murder.  


Investigators must learn why he, himself, does not have to "figure out" how to grieve.  If he was just relieved from a burdensome marriage that hindered his narcissistic goal, why did he show no concern for himself, his son, or even the public at large from the killers?

"For uswe have nothing to hideis probably the single clearest point in his language that Davey Blackburn not only has something to hide, but will not stand alone, psychologically, due to intense guilt. 

What is often missed in this guilty formed statement is the following:

He asserts that "for us" they have nothing to hide.  While focusing upon the plural, the comparative phrase should not be missed:

This statement  recognizes that he knows of someone else (likely plural, as well)  that does have something to hide.  

Where did he get this knowledge from? 

We have seen repeatedly the issue of sexuality from this habitual liar.  We then had the psychologically revealing "meeting with God" where he was both naked and in the shower.  

This is akin to sexuality and the need for cleansing. 

To dismiss him as mentally ill because he believes God had a talk with him while naked in the shower is to also fall prey to his deception:  this statement was purposeful to both his father-in-law, and to the audience, of whom, if the "history making" movement, of which he is front and center, does not come to pass:  they would be faulted; not him. 

This is the same thing as "for us, we have nothing to hide" whether coming from him or coming from a 2nd grader home from school after seeking to share guilt.    

Here, Blackburn affirms that he has knowledge that others have something to hide, even as he, himself does, and what he hides, he cannot bear being alone to be responsible for.  





Conclusion:

The police should have polygraphed Davey Blackburn regarding knowledge of the crime that took place in which Amanda Blackburn and her pre born child lost their lives.


Blackburn's repeated statements reveal narcissism, strong intellect, deception, manipulation, and to this, analysis of his behavior agrees.  The investigatory interview would be a long wrestling match in which the interviewer must have a strong understanding of the Bible, which Blackburn will use to defend himself.  

He is a master showman, above average intellect, with habitual patterns of deception, along with a history of success.  He is sexually confused and his need to repeatedly affirm his heterosexuality suggests some elements of same sex attraction.  Should he ever face scrutiny and the tide turn against him, he would likely seek to capitalize on the political atmosphere regarding sexuality.  

Blackburn gives verbal indication that not only he was free from the burden of marriage and pregnancy, but that he had no concern for himself, his son, his home, nor the neighborhood at large, that the criminals would return.    

His delay of almost 40 minutes sitting in his driveway is critical.  By someone who's life and words are so ordered and neat, this, too, was not by accident nor chance.  Listen to the words his best friend said at the "memorial" service.  He and Perry Noble, both, expressed doubts and "something" that was wrong with Blackburn. Don't think these things are completely lost upon Amanda Blackburn's family. These are the things that haunt victims' close relatives long after the media blitz has gone away.  

Blackburn chides father-in-law for his dead church 


Everything within his public statements agrees with guilty knowledge of what happened to his wife.  That he 'corrected' his statements, later on, due to the shock from the public, only shows his awareness of his settings.  

1.  When a pregnant woman is murdered, statistics point to the male (husband).  

2.  The husband is obsessed with success.  
3.  The husband said his wife and pregnancy hindered his success. 
4.  The husband was, in a single day, free of both. 
5.  The husband showed no concern for the brutal criminals on the loose. 
6.  The husband showed only concern for his business success.  
7.  The husband's statements show deception and guilt. 

As one 30 year veteran of homicide investigations said, 

"No one is this lucky."  


Davey Blackburn gives indicators of guilty knowledge of the crime committed against his wife and pre born child.   

Davey Blackburn has been cleared by investigators and is not considered a suspect, including as an accessory to this crime, by any known law enforcement entity.  The opinions here are only those of my own, as all are judicially innocent unless found otherwise in a court of law.  

When one speaks publicly, it is presupposed that the audience will choose to believe him, or not to believe him.  

I do not believe him.  Hiding a poor marriage, hiding same sex attraction, hiding various crimes and misdemeanors, and so on, will not exempt one from the intense fear of the unknown brutal killers on the loose.  Blackburn's indifference is well noted.  

Statement Analysis analyzes what one says...
and what one does not say.   Training is key.   

As the facade around his mentor came down, so it may with Blackburn as the "tell tale heart" beats with much strength of youth to resist it, and as his mentor found, being drunk on one's own success, too, will difficult to withstand.  Truth has a way of coming out...even if it takes a long time.  






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New England Water Blog said...

This all makes persuasive sense and yet why if he colluded with criminals who clearly are not his peers would they not rat him out for favorable treatment? That part is hard to understand.

snap said...

There is a trend in this brand/business of ministry that Mr Blackburn was well-schooled and dialed into and ready to capitalize on: The Tragedy to Triumph Trend; "Our Story".

Dead daughters (Levi Lusko) and burnt boys (O'Leary). Devastation to Divinity.

The Sympathy Card. It could appear to be a repeatable method to capitalize on Feelings to increase Fame and/or Fortune.

Who doesn't love a good Victory/Hero/Triumph tale.

It is the newish fusion of feel-good new age psychology with a twist of Christ. Happy Hour redefined.


Brene Brown
Nic Vujicic (born with no arms or legs)
Bob Goff
Joel Olstein

Add this emotion/psychology stuff to the mentored branding of faith and fresh "reinterpretations" of scripture via Perry Noble and you have a smooth new cocktail ready to be consumed by the too-often unquestioning masses.

Davey Blackburn is a pretty good student. Must be the starBUCKS in his eyes.

Anonymous said...

Was he involved or was he not? Does he have knowledge others close to him who were or no?

Anonymous said...

Did Amanda have anyone that she confided in? Someone trusted with whom she shared her feelings or was her friend that diary?

Bobcat said...

snap @ 12:04

Jake "Jail" Baird

Indy pastor friend of Davey. Wife died "kinda inconclusive" in 2011.

lynda said...

It was like Christmas morning to see this blog!

Anonymous said...
Was he involved or was he not? Does he have knowledge others close to him who were or no?

September 7, 2016 at 12:09 PM

________________________

YES! Davey has guilty knowledge meaning that he is/was involved in what happened. The sheeples that continue to follow and edify this man is alarming to me. If he wasn't a self-procliamed "pastor" this would have never shaken out this way. He would have been poly'd immediately, the house would have been sealed for more than a freakin day, and crazy davey would have undergone intense questioning.
Davey is GIDDY with his new life. His appearance has radically changed, he travels worldwide now, hangs with the big cheeses, and is adored and worshipped by the sheeples.
One day...one day..one of the bangers is going to roll on him. I pray that day comes soon. It will be a JOYOUS moment when he finally pays.
I also pray for Amanda's family as they (at least her sister) seem to grovel at his feet. Are they that blind?

Thank you to Peter and his colleagues

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

This conclusion is almost a duplicate of the "conclusion to date" from 11/21/15.

Anonymous said...

Davey started jabbering his mouth off again in April, Me2l.

Lots of guilty knowledge (and purses) fell out.

Bobcat said...

lynda,

"Are they that blind?"

I'm not sure about complete blindness, but if you have the looks and the title "Pastor" (whether credentialed or not), they seem to make mistakenly generous character assumptions.

Me2l said...

But the analysis conclusion remains very similar.

Nic said...

Peter said:

If narcissism produces "we", under what context is it seen, and under what context is it abandoned? This is to establish context within analysis.
__________

Ah. Thank you. :0)

Me2l said...

To elaborate........

"This conclusion is almost a duplicate of the "conclusion to date" from 11/21/15."

....which would appear to confirm the consistency of statement analysis.

Nic said...

Peter said:
In one short video well before the murder, he was seen berating his followers for their failure to fulfill his self imposted numeric account for new followers. (This was one of the first video examples where, when his emotion increased, he used the pronoun "I" making his statement quite strong as he castigated them). Remember, this was "their failure" to bring people; not 'Davey's failure' to attract the numerical figure.


IMO, this is where DB’s “church”, and others like it compare to an MLM. The structure is comparable, that’s for sure (Noble at the top with a bunch of subordinate businesses/churches.) Wherein religion is the "product" sold and the congregation (subordinate sellers/underlings) are expected to share the product with their warm market (family and friends). By sharing I mean get them to go to DB’s church with them, and hold them there by whatever emotionally manipulative means (togetherness, socializing, guilt, etc.). If the congregation does their “job” then the congregation grows (numbers). What do followers “bring”? Tithe. (Numbers = return ($)) Some will even want to open their own “business” (church) some day, which is what DB ultimately wants (passive revenue). Being that they would be a spawn of his church, he would get a percentage of their revenue (as DB pays a percentage to his report). And so on and so forth.


Me2l said...

Or maybe it confirms the consistency of Davey's statements, with his inability to disguise himself.


Questions.....

INTRO: Studying Statement Analysis Profiling allows for precision; not vague declarations that cannot be stood firmly upon.

A:
Statement Analysis is the most effective way of discerning truth from deception, exceeding that of the polygraph, voice stress analyzer, and all other means currently employed.


B:
The police should have polygraphed Davey Blackburn regarding knowledge of the crime that took place in which Amanda Blackburn and her pre born child lost their lives.





If A is true, why is B necessary?

What are the corresponding statistics that are the basis for this claim in A?

I've searched for that information but have been unsuccessful in finding anything definitive.






Nic said...
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Nic said...

Peter said:

When one speaks publicly, it is presupposed that the audience will choose to believe him, or not to believe him.
I do not believe him.


Alleluia to this.

Thank you, Peter, and to the countless unknowns who contributed to this analysis, thank you.

Amanda and her unborn baby were worth more than their "return". Money is the root of all evil, is all I can think.

Nic said...

New England Water Blog said...
This all makes persuasive sense and yet why if he colluded with criminals who clearly are not his peers would they not rat him out for favorable treatment? That part is hard to understand.


This is all my opinion: Because a contract was struck and it was signed, sealed and “delivered”, as agreed upon. A contract that I don’t believe included murder, but instead a contract to make it look like murder. Except there was a “glitch” (maximum allowable withdraw) which inadvertently put three men on trial for the murder of Amanda Blackburn. For the record, I’m not saying they are “innocent" men. What I’m saying is that I don’t believe they are guilty of killing Amanda Blackburn.

Does anyone else find it peculiar that a security guard who carries a gun for a living, who practically lived next door to the Blackburn’s (and everyone else in the immediate proximity of the house, side-to-side and behind,) did not hear a gunshot, let alone three of them; but, a “neighbour” further up the street, who was still in bed "asleep" reported being woken up by a gunshot? I find that extraordinary.

Anonymous said...

What is the definitive conclusion? I do not believe him. Ok. Involved? Guilty knowledge? Both? Neither?

CJ said...

Blogger Me2l said...
This conclusion is almost a duplicate of the "conclusion to date" from 11/21/15.

************

Me2!, are we reading the same posts?:

Peter’s conclusion on Nov. 21
http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2015/11/conclusions-in-amanda-blackburn-murder.html

“Thus far, I am not able to conclude "guilty knowledge" on the part of Davey Blackburn, in the death of his wife, via a connection to the shooter. Although he has not denied it, in taking all of his statements together, he appears to know that he is benefiting, career-wise, from her death, and affirms that his unhappy marriage is over. He may be narcissistic, crass, and a theatrical manipulator of young people, but... This still does not mean he hired someone to kill her”.

Peter’s conclusion on Sep. 7:

“Everything within his public statements agrees with guilty knowledge of what happened to his wife. That he 'corrected' his statements, later on, due to the shock from the public, only shows his awareness of his settings …

Davey Blackburn gives indicators of guilty knowledge of the crime committed against his wife and pre born child.”



Bingo3 said...

Thank you Peter! I don't believe him either!!

Not SA but just DB behavior antics of the week. He is getting a little too comfortable. He is vacationing with his "married" roommates on yet another trip. He is posting many pics and snapchats of himself shirtless. He is obsessing over his cross fit even showing poor Weston running along beside him as he works out shirtless. He is going to lose the faith of Amanda's family the more he acts with this much ridiculousness. When the family who truly loved her gets tired of his antics, they will push for police to investigate this further. I pray for that day to happen soon! Justice for beautiful Amanda.

Bingo3 said...

Above I meant, this was not in relation to the above SA but just this week his behaviors seem a bit more reckless and increasingly unbecoming of a pastor.

Anonymous said...

What does guilty knowledge mean?

Nic said...

Peter said:
Don’t think these things are completely lost upon Amanda Blackburn's family. These are the things that haunt victims' close relatives long after the media blitz has gone away.


I’d like to believe this is true. It doesn’t look like there is any animosity between DB and Amanda’s family, and it doesn’t appear (at least nothing has been reported that I’ve seen) that Amanda’s family is doubtful about their son-in-law ergo pushing LE to delve further into DB’s story and behaviour. In fact, you extensively document DB’s personality over the years/throughout his life, so his “full of himself” personality is an entity they have “grown to love”. It really makes me wonder how valued wives and daughters are in that sort of community, and I often wonder when reading about Amanda’s murder if the “subordinates” are forbidden from reading anything about Amanda on-line, let alone discussing it amongst themselves or with outsiders. How else can their indifference to DB’s behaviour be justified?

jmo

Nic said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What does guilty knowledge mean?


Not oblivious to the circumstances surrounding her murder. There could be culpability in relation to how her murder came about. As in Amanda's murder was not "random".

jmo

Nic said...

Further to above, guilty knowledge can also be defined as: If he knew something ahead of time, he could have used his knowledge to change the outcome of, in this case, the murder of his wife, Amanda Blackburn.

jmo

Me2l said...

Yes, CJ, you're right. It does look as if behavior / statement analysis applied to the same statements from then to now has changed.

Bobcat said...

Nic,
I wouldn't misinterpret the family's silence as indifference.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Nic.
In haste I questioned the conclusion. It says guilty knowledge. Theres just no more available info to get beyond the suspicion of involvement. Was the Gov who attended ABs life celebration Mr Pence? Why did her death attrack the Gov? Who is the special friend DB met in Nov & alluded to few months ago?

CJ said...

Blogger Me2l said...
Yes, CJ, you're right. It does look as if behavior / statement analysis applied to the same statements from then to now has changed.

September 7, 2016 at 3:04 PM

Right about what? I asked if we were referencing the same November post.

Concerned said...

Thank you, Peter, for the conclusion we've long awaited!
I feel confident that some time in the future more will be revealed about Davey's
awareness and involvement in the invasion of his home and death of Amanda
and the baby. (As Bingo3 pointed out, his misbehavior is escalating!)
I look forward to more analysis from you then!

May I ask a favor? I know that as we spread the word about today's analysis,
new people will be visiting the blog and the Comments section.
Is there a chance that you could step up blog administration so the strange and
irrelevant comments can be removed? They drive away serious commenters and
might permanently discourage the newly interested from participating.
Just a thought!
Again, thank you for the time and attention you've given to this miscarriage of
justice and embarrassment to Christianity. I'm thankful we serve a very big God.

Concerned said...

Bobcat at 3:19 said, "I wouldn't misinterpret the family's silence as indifference."

I agree, Bobcat. If Peter, the other investigators, psychologists and many bright
commenters here have had their Hinky-meters on alert with just limited exposure to Davey,
imagine how it's been for Amanda's family.
They know something's off yet they realize their access to Weston would be limited
if they didn't maintain a civil relationship with Davey. Any of us would remain silent
in this same situation.

Anonymous said...

As recorded in their book: "By their Fruit you shall know them". Also, numerous warnings to guard against deceitfulness. Also, the wolf, a vicious wolf, clothed as one of their own. Thats the warning. An enemy so close one thinks its a sheep.

Hey Jude said...


'Davey Blackburn gives indicators of guilty knowledge of the crime committed against his wife and pre born child.'

---

Thank you, Peter - it was worth the wait.

I think your conclusion will be a relief, whilst also presenting a massive challenge to those close to Davey - some are sure to be following, and I hope what you have said will help them to let go of any misplaced faith they might still have in him. I don't know what I'd do if I were any of those involved in Weston's life as it must already be like walking on eggshells.

It's going to be the elephant in quite a few rooms in which Davey is present. He's probably already instructing people on how to respond whilst also pretending he hasn't seen it. Maybe it will be greeted with silence if they all pretend not to have seen it, which would also be interesting, as it's so unlikely that those who long for maximum justice for Amanda are not aware of your analyses.

I hope we get to read the parts which were pared out of the article sometime - It's a fascinating case.


Me2l said...

I think Peter's ongoing analyses of the Amanda Blackburn murder case has been consistent, and this conclusion surely is not surprising to most here if you've kept up. It's expected.

By saying this is the conclusion, does that mean the case is wrapped up? If Davey has guilty knowledge, where does this take LE? It's not as if they've been unaware of all the Davey behaviors.

Of course, as Peter said, he and the other analysts, etc. are not officially actively involved in the case, so this conclusion is for discussion purposes on this blog only?

Anonymous said...

Wasnt this case hurried thru LE? Why? By whom? Isnt Indy a violent cesspool? What is the political interest in ABs death? Sadly, she was one of many. Could there be an undercover informant network within the gangs? Do others think & feel that something other than a quick wrap up of the crime is operating?

lynda said...

There was a changing of the guard in LE when Amanda was murdered. Remember that bizarre press conference with everyone from the janitor to the governor there? I think a cover-up is firmly in place to hide police ineptness. They got their "men" and it's 3 black, gangbangers that no one is going to make a fuss over.
If I was Amanda's sister, I would be demanding to know why Bull was not brought in for questioning, why he was not arrested, and what the hell he is hiding. Here's a man that said he was talking to them as they committed the crime, knew that they had murdered her, received stolen property, and did not call police. There was already a link between them thru FB (just the fact that Davey made that link disappear almost immediately after the murder is HIGHLY suspect)those cops should be coming down hard on Bull and associates to break them. THEN we might get to the bottom of this farce of a "pastor"

Anonymous said...

Its all troubling. What makes AB murder high profile? IMO the political presence is unusual and may suggest familiarity between parties. A christian affinity based relationship btwn Gov indianapolis & resonate & newspring.

Nic said...

M32I said;
By saying this is the conclusion, does that mean the case is wrapped up? If Davey has guilty knowledge, where does this take LE? It's not as if they've been unaware of all the Davey behaviors.


No. LE's job was making an arrest. Evidence has not been presented or defended. The three in custody have not yet been given the opportunity to defend themselves against the allegations.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the three in custody standing trial. Not only will we finally learn about any withheld details, Davey Blackburn will be called to testify. (He was the one who discovered his mortally wounded wife so how could he not be called.) I hope the defence lawyers are motivated and hungry and possess exemplary questioning skills and are good listeners. I pray they go for the glory.

Anonymous said...

I meant Indiana

Concerned said...

Bingo3 at 2:37, lynda at 4:53 and Hey Jude at 3:50
As usual, excellent comments!
Thank you!

Amy Smith said...

In a recent appearance at his uncle's church, Davey announced the trial date is set for March and said he will have to testify. (He sounded very annoyed.) http://watchkeep.blogspot.com/2016/08/pastor-davey-blackburn-says-he-and-his.html

He also talked about his "overnight success" and said he is seeing "revival sweep across the nation" because of his "story."

Anonymous said...

Is there maybe political influence obstructing the truth from being persued in Ramsey and Blackburn cases?

Traci Mosby said...

Because they are part of the 'Kill Gang.' They have notoriety, which is like a badge of honor for them. I think it was set up for him, but he knew "something" was going to happen. Either that, or he should by a Powerball ticket, cuz he's got a streak going on.

Peter Hyatt said...

Amanda murder is "overnight succes"

http://watchkeep.blogspot.com/2016/08/pastor-davey-blackburn-says-he-and-his.html?m=1

Peter Hyatt said...

It's sickening.

Concerned said...

Amy at 5:43
Thanks for the link. I tried to watch and just couldn't stomach Davey
and Levi, whose t-shirt I so badly wanted to wash. If Levi is one of the great
successes of that movement, how sad....fairly well medicated and
bored. I continue to grieve for the people in need of salvation who
will meet up with one of these two.

Amy, keep up the pressure on Davey. The more nervous he remains
the more likely he is to slip up. If you are connected with the Indy
news media, I would think their viewers would be interested in Peter's
conclusions.

Traci Mosby said...

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Traci Mosby said...

SPOT. ON!!!!

Anonymous said...

Nic, I agree with you. I dont think any of the 3 killed Amanda. I believe Davey killed her.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 7:21PM

DB did say it was a "conundrum". Who takes out a contract on their wife to make it *look* like she was murdered by the robbers?

jmo

Bingo3 said...

Nic, I too think that she was possibly killed execution style before the thugs were sent that way. I hate to say it but I think Larry Taylor was the guy who took the fall. All the thugs around him tell us that he shot her in the back of the head and watched her die. Larry Taylor claims to remember nothing because he was too strung out. He didn't want a speedy trial. The other guys didn't expect to get hung for murder. They will stick to their story that they just stole some items and begged LT not to kill Amanda. I agree with someone on the thread also that it is quite strange that Bull who was most obviously involved did not get arrested but instead got to to be a CI. Also, no investigation or acknowledgement of the extra phone called during the conundrum. Whose phone was it?

I have always been mostly convinced DB was involved but he sealed the deal for me at Levi Lusko church with one last changing account of that normal morning. He didn't know she had been shot (which was obvious by the affidavit to be untrue) but he started taking mental snapshots of things that seemed out of place to tell the investigators. Also, his finally being asked by Ken Murphy about the front door and he included Amanda in the blame saying it was just habit of the both of them. CREEP!

Traci Mosby said...

Maybe he should consider franchising!! πŸ˜‚

Traci Mosby said...

He even lied about the baby! First they didn't know the sex, (never did, it was too early), then he said Amanda THOUGHT it was a girl. Then, poof!! It WAS a girl, & they were going to name her Evie Grace. (He added the Grace in the 3 Rd interview with Inside Addition. Davey lies to lie.

Anonymous said...

Nic, Im not sure what you are saying exactly, but I dont think Davey took out any contract. I think he killed Amanda and then framed the 3....I believe the 3 were "lured" there with the promise of drugs or money...

Traci Mosby said...

Guilty knowledge.

Traci Mosby said...

Unfortunately, I think Amanda's family is too deep in Bible verses to see Davey for who he really is. His life is everything he ever wanted! #cars #trips #newkicks #housewithapool #FREEDOM

Traci Mosby said...

I agree!!!!

Anonymous said...

Bingo, great point about Davey taking mental snapshots of moved items...again this points to framing of the thugs.
I apologize for saying this, but I also get a very bad vibe off Amanda's father (a vibe I would describe as possible sociopathic...he dod not appear to be grieving whatsoever 2 weeks after his daughter's brutal murder--thats not normal--it's just NOT.)

Nic said...

Amy,

"overnight success"

There are no words.

Thankfully, DB is mortal. What goes up, must come down. It's the law of gravity.

Traci Mosby said...

Gov. Pence attended because of racial tensions in Indy. It's gotten pretty bad here. Amanda's murder shook up everyone in the city & suburbs. Everyone but Davey.

Anonymous said...

If, in every fiber of your being, you wish someone dead, and then they end up dead, and yet you had no involvement in the murder, are you guilty of anything?

Nic said...

Bingo3 said:
I hate to say it but I think Larry Taylor was the guy who took the fall.


I agree. I hope he is left-handed. It will be a major lunch-bag-letdown for me if he is not.

mom2many said...

I will never understand how LE could announce that Davey was cleared before any arrests were made. How could they thoroughly investigate possible connections when they had no suspects? In a high crime city with a soaring murder rate, I think they simply were satisfied with the arrests that were made. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think they are investigating Davey. I think not investigating Davey has more to do with available time and resources than possible ties not existing and no investigators having suspicions. On the books, the crime appears solved. Davey will continue to believe he has gotten away with his part in it. But there is no statute of limitations on murder, and ultimately, "'vengeance is mine,' says the Lord."

I am most disturbed that he has repeated his line about presenting Amanda pure and blameless to the Lord. It gives him peace, in fact. Chilling.

Traci Mosby said...

I'm sure the court will limit who can be in the court room, but if I can attend, I'm going!!

Traci Mosby said...

Not in the Blackburn case.

Traci Mosby said...

Yes, the mental snapshots was a nice addition. 😳 The other part of that interview that struck me, was when Levi said, "And you were calling 9-1-1? Davey: "I was trying to."

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 7:48 said:
I believe the 3 were "lured" there with the promise of drugs or money...


Change the word "lured" to "dispatched" and I agree.

When I say I believe there was a contract, I don't mean between the three awaiting trials and DB. They're just the minions. Their pay was what they syphoned from Amanda's bank account. That's it.
__________

Davey Blackburn said:
None of us know what “cross” Jesus is going to ask us to carry. There’s no pre-laid-out terms of contract in this whole thing. He just says take up your cross and follow me. Amanda chose Jesus over anything else.

Over comfort. Over health. Over safety. Over convenience.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 12:21.

I think she hid her real life away. I don't think she confided in anyone. Not even her beloved sister. If she had, it would be public knowledge now, what white all the focus on this crime.

Anonymous said...

Yeh DB saying it's a "conundrum" about his wife being murdered. That has always nagged at me.

co·nun·drum
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noun
a confusing and difficult problem or question.
"one of the most difficult conundrums for the experts"
synonyms: problem, difficult question, difficulty, quandary, dilemma; informalposer
"the conundrums facing policy-makers"
a question asked for amusement, typically one with a pun in its answer; a riddle.
synonyms: riddle, puzzle, word game; informalbrainteaser
"Rod enjoyed conundrums and crosswords"

Traci Mosby said...

I think they said he was cleared after the neighbor gave his security cameras video. The manhunt was on then. Also, Amanda was NOT raped. A friend of mine, whose husband oversees the homicide division, said she wasn't raped. They still don't know why it appeared she was.

Anonymous said...

I posted 8:20. I searched Google on "conundrum" and got those results. Try it.

Anonymous said...

Traci Mosby, being stripped to nude is sexual assault. You don't know what happened. She might have been sexually assaulted.

Nic said...

What the heck! From Amy's link:

"So we moved in 2012, we actually started Sunday morning gatherings 2013, and then did a big launch in 2015."

A launch is a "kick off". Kick offs require strategic planning. Weren't Resonate's numbers dismal around the time Amanda was killed? I was under the impression they were about to lose their church (hence, Amanda died so the church could live).

Note the dropped pronoun. Who launched what?

IMO, the only thing that "launched" Resonate Church was Amanda's murder. That's when DB went "national" and everyone learned who he was.

Wow. He is fearless.

The Sheep said...

I don't like Davey Blackburn. He is a crass, selfish, narcissistic man child. But he has not exhibited guilty knowledge of Amanda's murder.

Anonymous said...

thanks Peter!

I'd love to see a sequence of Davey photos showing his dramatically increased muscle mass in the past year.

I believe that, like OJ, he will slip up later & get caught.

The Weston tombstone photo shoot did me in...& the upcoming book promotion...he is one sick puppy.

"whatever it takes"

Nic said...

Traci Mosby said:
They still don't know why it appeared she was.


1) staging (clothes placement)
2) if DB's seamen was present, would they rule out rape? If yes, then maybe assumptions are being made. I'd request her underwear be tested for his DNA. Yes, so much for that theory. No, there is a problem with "order".

jmo

Hey Jude said...

How do you find he has not, The Sheep?

I think it was in his mind for a long time before it happened that Amanda needed to be 'sacrificed'.

mom2many said...

Sounds like an attempt to disguise the failure of Resonate to attract the numbers that would be expected of a third-year startup. Resonate was incorporated in August 2012, regardless of when he claims they launched. http://nonprofitlocator.org/organizations/in/indianapolis/453936230-resonate-church-incorporated

Anonymous said...

"Waiting game" is not a phrase to describe the experience of being in the horrible suspense of watching the progress of a severely injured loved one. There are many stories of people hoping and praying for loved ones in intensive care in hospital, and they never say they are "waiting". Waiting? "Waiting" for what?

Anonymous said...

My dad had a heart attack and ended up in ICU. The family gathered around. At NO POINT did anyone say "We are waiting." No, we were praying, stroking him, talking to doctors, etc. We weren't "waiting".

The Sheep said...

Jude, you're asking me to prove a negative. I can't do that; the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.

The vast majority of the article is about his strange behavior. Peter put the subheading "Behavioral analysis" in the middle of the article; it belongs at the top. "No one is that lucky" is a sarcastic tag line, amusing, but not proof.

But I'm open minded. I'm not saying he didn't kill her; I'm saying I haven't seen proof of guilty knowledge. I mean this sincerely: If SA proves he has guilty knowledge, show me the quotations- bold words if you (or anyone convinced of his guilt) want. Just his words, no commentary at first. This creep has said so much that if he has guilty knowledge, the words will show it.

But the vast majority of these Blackburn threads devolves into (justified) character assassination and conjecture about his abnormal behavior, behavioral habits that was present and documented well before Amanda was killed. Proof of guilty knowledge should come from words about the murder. Isolate that language and let's see what we've really got.

lynda said...

Traci Mosby said...
He even lied about the baby! First they didn't know the sex, (never did, it was too early), then he said Amanda THOUGHT it was a girl. Then, poof!! It WAS a girl, & they were going to name her Evie Grace. (He added the Grace in the 3 Rd interview with Inside Addition. Davey lies to lie.

September 7, 2016 at 7:47 PM

_________________________

Yes! That has ALWAYS bothered me that no one talks about that! How CD figured out he could get a lot more Money, butts in the seats, interviews, etc. by actually making it a "girl" named Evie, and then adding Amanda's middle name. He has NO SHAME and if any of his sheeple are reading here tonight, if HE is reading here tonight so he can change what needs to be changed, YOU WILL PAY DAVEY...Sheeples...tell him he will pay. Davey, I hope you NEVER have another moments peace. You are building everything on a foundation of sand made up of lies, deceptions, self-righteousness, and the blood of Amanda and it WILL FALL. YOU WILL FALL. Someday, somehow, YOU WILL FALL. Whether you pulled the trigger or not, you are a murderer.God will NOT BE MOCKED. You are a murderer.

I am so angry! So angry that it seems more and more men are killing women and getting away with it.
__________________________

The Sheep said...
I don't like Davey Blackburn. He is a crass, selfish, narcissistic man child. But he has not exhibited guilty knowledge of Amanda's murder.

September 7, 2016 at 8:35 PM

______________________________

Since Peter is the expert and he has shown us exactly where CrazyDavey HAS exhibited guilty knowledge of Amanda's murder, I'm interested in knowing your credentials Sheep, since you say the exact opposite.

Anonymous said...

My spouse whom I would be better off without was brutally attacked last night. He's in the hospital now, and we are all gathered around, waiting. It's a waiting game, ya know. Just waiting, and waiting, and waiting. Thank God for Pokemon.

Anonymous said...

Anon you wrote

My dad had a heart attack and ended up in ICU. The family gathered around. At NO POINT did anyone say "We are waiting." No, we were praying, stroking him, talking to doctors, etc. We weren't "waiting".

This has linguitic indicators of being fabricated.

the family upon first introduction of the noun "family" instead of "my family" or "our family"

Anonymous said...

wait·ing game
noun
a tactic in which one refrains from action for a time in order to act more effectively at a later date or stage.
"policemen were playing a waiting game outside a country cottage"

The Sheep said...

If he had proved it, Lynda, you wouldn't need to strawman me, you'd have the proof itself to point to. Peter gave a lot of behavioral quirks that do not prove guilty knowledge of the crime in question.

shown us exactly where...

Yes, that's what I'm asking...if he's shown us exactly where, it should be easy to quote here.

Anonymous said...

waiting game
This term is used to describe the process of waiting for something you wish to obtain/achieve (usually drugs).
Have you heard back from Bob on the weed hookup?
No, I'm still playing the waiting game!waiting game.

Me2l said...

Peter said:

"Next, the conclusions here are not simply analysis of the words, but behavioral analysis, both pre and post crime."

Davey's behavior from the beginning has been unchanging. He behaves like the self-centered narcissist he is, but I'm not sure where he has exhibited guilty knowledge....to conclude that, SA has to be suspended in favor of behavioral analysis, but even then, it's open to liberal interpretation.

Anonymous said...

Why was the governor of the state of Indiana at ABs funeral service?

Carnival Barker said...


I have three questions that I want DB to answer: Where was the dog on the morning of Amanda's murder that was "always under her feet"? Davey quickly got rid of the dog after Amanda died, but where was the dog that loved her so much on that morning when three intruders were assaulting her? He not only didn't attack, he didn't even bark????!?!?!?

Also, Davey, please explain why the two thugs that took her ATM card drove 30 minutes and passed 40+ closer ATMs to use the ATM that is the closest Chase ATM to Resonate "Church" (school gym). That little tidbit has always stood out to me as being more deliberate than coincidental.

And, finally, when you were on your media blitz the week after her murder when the killers were still at large, why did you NEVER ONCE make a plea to the public to find them or give out a phone number in case anyone had a tip? It was almost like Amanda's murder was an annoying footnote to your national stage debut.

Anonymous said...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=waiting%20game

Bobcat said...

The Sheep @ 9:27

From his conversation with Levi Lusko:
http://freshlifechurch.com/series/single.php?id=81&tm=734
"Yeah, uh, it was a Tuesday morning. Um, most Tuesday mornings are my long days. Uh, at least, during this season of life. And so I'd wake up, go to the gym super early, um. So this particular morning, I woke up about 4:30, spent some time in the word. Um, I remember, actually. I remember sitting there at my couch and, and just for some reason had this sense of, of just praying over the protection of my family. And uh, just lord please protect Amanda, please protect, little Evie, uh, make this pregnancy healthy, and just spending some time there and then, [dropped pronoun] grabbed my gym clothes, [dropped pronoun] left for the gym and um, uh came back about an hour and half maybe two hours later and I walked into, to my living room and, and found my, my wife face down, uh, in a pool of blood, and um, she was still breathing but she was unconscious."

From Peter's "time and form" blog: http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2013/12/time-and-form-in-statement.html
"If you hear a phrase like, “and then later on” along with a missing pronoun, you are likely at the place where the event took place, and likely speaking to the person responsible for abuse, neglect, or exploitation."

The above is only one sample, but it ticks all the boxes. I've collected a bunch (along with SA links) here: http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/06/11102015-i-had-no-idea-daveys-evolving.html?m=1

Anonymous said...

Why was the governor of the state of Indiana at ABs funeral service? Invitation? By whom? Or just in the area.

The Sheep said...

Also Lynda, you can turn it into some sort of Peter vs. a dissenter thing. I respect Peter and SA. I respect them both enough to say when I disagree rather than being a sheep that questions nothing. If you'd like discussion to be more about character assassination than science and language, well that's certainly your prerogative, but don't pretend simply saying "Peter's the expert so you're wrong" that you're being true to analysis.

lynda said...

The Sheep said...
Jude, you're asking me to prove a negative. I can't do that; the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.

___________________

Oh my, seriously? I'm not going down your rabbit hole. Why would anyone cut and paste what is in the blog? Read it yourself. If you feel it was not proven, fine. But to say " But he has not exhibited guilty knowledge of Amanda's murder" is pretty finite. BTW..I notice you did not answer the question..what are your credentials for you to say a definitive statement as you did? Just answer the question, no need to redirect..just answer the question. Somebody would have to show me some pretty big SA guns for me to believe them over Peter. You are entitled to your opinion, keep it your opinion. To come onto Peter's blog and say he has not proven ONE SA showing guilty knowledge is just wrong

lynda said...

I'm done engaging with you Sheep. *sigh*

Anonymous said...

Its been observed that DB has accumulated significantly more muscle mass. Theres only one way thats achievable quickly. PEDs. Testosterone. Steroids. The only way posdible.

Anonymous said...

Just itemize his references proving guilty knowledge. ABC 123. No need to argue. Can you list them? What are they? Valid question.

The Sheep said...

Read it yourself. If you feel it was not proven, fine.

I did read it. I did state I didn't think it was proven. You say "fine" but then go on to insult me. I have been reading this blog since before Baby Lisa went missing. I know what is SA and what is not. I have praised Peter when I thought he was right and disagreed when I didn't. If Peter only wants approving comments from sycophants, he's free to run his blog as he sees fit. I don't compromise my belief in the principles of SA for anyone. As far as insults, I can give as good as I get, so we can continue if you'd like. I'd prefer SA.

Bobcat- YES. That gives me pause, but not there yet.

The Sheep said...

Well maybe ABB or CAPTAIN CAPPY CAP will come along and pick up where you left off...

Nic said...

From Amy's link to "overnight success":
...It was a Tuesday morn’n, Um, most Tuesday mornings are my long days, uh, at least during this season of life. And so I wake up, go to the gym super early. Um, and so this particular morning I woke up about 4:30, spent some time on the word, um I remember actually, I remember sitting there at my couch and just for some reason had this sense of-of just praying over the protection of my family. And uh, just Lord you know, please protect Amanda, please protect little Evie, uh make this pregnancy healthy, and just spending some time there, and then grab my gym clothes, left for the gym ...


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Notice who "for some reason" DB doesn't have the "sense of (just) praying over the protection" in his family?The very ones who were not harmed: Weston and Mel.

Bobcat said...

Sheep at 10:13

Please review all of the quotes I linked. There is much more to take you "there" than the Lusko interview.

Anonymous said...

Yes where is ABB? Are you reading along ABB? Please pipe in! I always loved your writing!

Anonymous said...

Davey looks like such a snotty bitch in that pic above where he is wearing navy blue sweater. I can't even imagine how horrible it must have been for Amanda struggling to cater to his pansy-ass bitchy self.

Anonymous said...

The pic right above pic of himself with Amanda's father.

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt in my mind after looking at that pic he is a murdering queer.

CJ said...

Waiting game quote from Davey's blog:

"I called 911 as soon as I could, and the paramedics rushed Amanda to the hospital. The next 24 hours were a waiting game to see if the swelling in her brain would subside and give us any hope of her survival. Mid-morning on November 11th the doctors informed me that there was no brain activity and she would not recover."

Nic said...

Um, an-and honestly, um, the family comes in and we’re all sitting around her hospital bed. An-the, the only thing that we could think to do, because we were completely out of control. You know control is one of the greatest illusions known to man. We think we can control our situations and even ……..and that was the moment, pastor, th-that I was the most out of control in my life and so all I could do was look to the Lord.

Is it just me, or does anybody else think maybe DB forgot "pastor's" name? :0)

@ Bobcat: there was another dropped pronoun @ "and just spending some time there ". :0) Very sensitive!

I still think "clothes" is sensitive. People grab their gym bag (with their clothes in it).

The Sheep said...

Thanks, I will

Anonymous said...

In that context waiting game is understandable. Her condition was uncertain. Iffy. Either way. If swelling subsides then hope of survival. If not.... Just have to wait and see.

CJ said...

Blogger Nic said...
From Amy's link to "overnight success":

Notice who "for some reason" DB doesn't have the "sense of (just) praying over the protection" in his family?The very ones who were not harmed: Weston and Mel.

September 7, 2016 at 10:20 PM

*******
Great catch, Nic!

I wouldn't expect Mel to make Davey's prayer list, but leaving Weston out of this account is a rather big oversight on Davey's part.

NTP, all the way.

Nic said...

Carnival Barker said:
Also, Davey, please explain why the two thugs that took her ATM card drove 30 minutes and passed 40+ closer ATMs to use the ATM that is the closest Chase ATM to Resonate "Church" (school gym). That little tidbit has always stood out to me as being more deliberate than coincidental.


Interesting detail. I completely missed this discussion.

Bobcat said...

Waiting "game". Games have winners and losers. Davey has sermonized about this - he hates games (soccer) that can end in ties.

Nic said...

@CJ,

Note, too, the unborn baby had a name!

The Sheep said...
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The Sheep said...

Have we got a working definition of "guilty knowledge"? Maybe that's where I'm getting hung up.

Anonymous said...

Russian military aircraft taunting US. Iranian military aircraft taunting US. Philippines president publicly insults US president. What did the world think of our rainbow colored whitehouse?

Anonymous said...

For reference purposes I'd like to see a listing of the guilty knowledge indicators.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...September 7, 2016 at 9:51 PM

waiting game
This term is used to describe the process of waiting for something you wish to obtain/achieve (usually drugs).
Have you heard back from Bob on the weed hookup?
No, I'm still playing the waiting game!waiting game.


CJ said...September 7, 2016 at 10:43 PM

Waiting game quote from Davey's blog:

"I called 911 as soon as I could, and the paramedics rushed Amanda to the hospital. The next 24 hours were a waiting game to see if the swelling in her brain would subside and give us any hope of her survival. Mid-morning on November 11th the doctors informed me that there was no brain activity and she would not recover."


And then, mid-morning on November 11th, the thing that Davey wished to obtain/achieve happened ! YAY ! Cue the hallelujah chorus - oh, no, it was "Nothing is Wasted" from Elevate Church that randomly came on Pandora radio when the family was gathered around Amanda lying there on life support.

Randomly, that song came on - the same wording that's on Amanda's tombstone, the same thing that he's been tweeting from the start.

SO many coincidences. Like the getaway car being dropped on the same street as the people who used to be Amanda's youth pastor - like the wedding song coming on the bluetooth on his iPod in the car -the genderless unknown baby suddenly turning into little Evie Grace - it goes on and on.

I bet Davey was freaking out until the doctor told him there was no hope of Amanda's survival - because it has been said here before - WHAT IF SHE WOKE UP and told everything she had seen and what was done to her and who did it ?

Bobcat said...

Guilty knowledge:

1. Changing and dropped pronouns
+
2. Lacuna
+
3. I can't remember (blur, cloud), except for everything I CAN remember (vivid, snapshots)
+
4. I Had No Idea
+
5. Why, not just What (to DISCOVER, to SHOWER)

Put them all together, in sensitive repetition, in DB's multiple stuttering diarrhea of the mouth quotes, and you end up with a stinking toilet full of guilty knowledge.

Hopefully Peter will have something more scientific!

Anonymous said...

Good question sheep. Be helpful to know what the term actually means. From the author. Not a commentator.

Anonymous said...

@11:19

Beautiful! Beautiful! ABB is emerging!!! Continue emerging ABB. Come out and talk to us!

The Sheep said...

Anon at 11:20- Bobcat's got a good formula for the case but yeah, I'm looking for something good for the ages, more dictionary.

Anonymous said...

I absolutely adore ABB. I really do. She is so wise, and I love how she gets right to the heart of the matter. ABB is also a wonderful writer. I hope ABB won't be shy about speaking up.

Anonymous said...

I hope ABB will at least let us know if she is OK, as we haven't heard from her in a while.

Anonymous said...

Sheep,
I think a large part of Daveys guilty knowledge becomes evident in what he didn't say, and the unusual way he acted after Amanda's brutal murder.
And never once expressing guilt over leaving the front door unlocked, and never shedding a tear. So many other examples.


Anonymous said...

I can't believe Rory is letting Logan treat her this way!

Anonymous said...

Logan is the worst, Rory! Leave him now!!!

Anonymous said...

What does statement analysis say (if anything) about absurd statements that interject reason into emotion such as "learn to grieve"? Who learns to grieve? It happens. A person doesn't practice it, or make decisions about how to live it, it overwhelms them and they cope...

Anonymous said...

He's not all that girl! DONT believe him! He's lying, he can't be faithful, why are you falling for it?

Anonymous said...

@11:56, Good question, although I think over time, a person does make decisions about how to live it, because if they don't a person goes kinda crazy.

Anonymous said...

"Carnival Barker said...

Also, Davey, please explain why the two thugs that took her ATM card drove 30 minutes and passed 40+ closer ATMs to use the ATM that is the closest Chase ATM to Resonate "Church" (school gym). That little tidbit has always stood out to me as being more deliberate than coincidental.

September 7, 2016 at 9:54 PM"

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They went to the Chase ATMs closest to the Blackburn home. Plug the addresses into Google maps and see for yourself.

Anonymous said...

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2016/08/katelyn-markham-lesson-for-analysts-and.html

"At one point in the documentary, commenting on analysis, I express certainty as to "guilty knowledge" possessed by Katelyn's fiancΓ©, John Carter."

Question: When should an analyst express such certainty?
Answer: When the totality of the text demands it.

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Here's a longer list gained from an SA search for "guilt/guilty knowledge":
1. Pronouns
2. Praising Law Enforcement (No Urgency to solve crime)
3. “I’m sorry”
4. Subtle disparagement of victim
5. Proclaimed "innocence" with extra words added
6. Need to control information, alibi building, continued public speaking
7. Focus on self, not victim
8. Projection of guilt by inclusion of unnecessary words (explaining things when they haven't been questioned about them)
9. Distancing from victim (incomplete social introduction)
10. Suggesting other possible suspects for police to investigate
11. Guilty knowledge is indicated when it is a very close familiar relation of whom there is no information to cause the subject to quickly process and accept the death.
12. Deception regarding the last time the victim & subject were together
13. Soft language to describe perpetrators
14. Accepting/understanding that they may be a suspect

Anonymous said...

Agree with bobcat and sheep because it will help us having a list of statements indicating guilty knowledge. And a definition of the term. Theres too many claims that guilt is suspected only due to disliking blackburn.

Anonymous said...

Anon, regarding your #11

11. Guilty knowledge is indicated when it is a very close familiar relation of whom there is no information to cause the subject to quickly process and accept the death.

This would apply to Amanda's father also.
This would also apply to the smirking Derrick and Ashley.

Both examples quickly processed and accepted Amanda's death. Ashley and Derrick accepted it before she was even totally dead.

I maintain that there are more players than Davey involved. It's not something I care to delve any deeper into, but a person is just plain stupid if they think that Amanda's father's reaction is normal, nevermind Derrick and Ashley's.

Anonymous said...

Good list also by the way!

Anonymous said...

Maybe we can get a case specific list pertaining to guilty knowledge as indicated by db.

Anonymous said...

Did amanda have any friends? Her own friends? From photos she seemed very nice, quiet and good. Very happy with her baby. But was she happy? Earlier photos I'd say she looked happy. Later photos sad. I wonder if she was depressed and lonely. What was she really like?

Anonymous said...

That would be great. I'll work on it tomorrow. Right now I have to recover from just now peeking at Facebook: Tonight it was cute puppy videos, self-elected fitness gurus, people taking aerial shots of their gorgeous living rooms under the guise of showing their "sick kids" laying on their couches, guys who make me wish I was gay posting "tiny house" updates and "frugal" living off the grid shit, happy families with Mom and Dad cheek to cheek against a purple and orange sunset, insipid political debates involving men whose words make me long to turn gay...basically whatever had flowered in my soul today sucked right down the drain. Thanks Facebook!

lynda said...

I'm sure CD is salivating about being in the spotlight when he "testifies".

I will be stunned if this actually goes to trial. I am imagining a plea will be accepted because I don't think LE wants it to go to trial. They have their guys..they just want them locked up and forgotten. With how LE botched this up any defense atty worth their own salt would crucify the prosecution and the evidence obtained and NOT obtained. They (LE)do not want anything to come out in open court is my feeling.

Anonymous said...

11. Guilty knowledge is indicated when it is a very close familiar relation of whom there is no information to cause the subject to quickly process and accept the death.

This would apply to Amanda's father also.
This would also apply to the smirking Derrick and Ashley.

Both examples quickly processed and accepted Amanda's death. Ashley and Derrick accepted it before she was even totally dead.

I maintain that there are more players than Davey involved. It's not something I care to delve any deeper into, but a person is just plain stupid if they think that Amanda's father's reaction is normal, nevermind Derrick and Ashley's.



Amanda's mother also used the phrase "that girl" (as opposed to using Amanda's name), in the context of saying "that girl didn't give me FIVE MINUTES of trouble in her whole life"

And Amber even said that the day Amanda died was the BEST DAY of her life.

All of these individuals handled losing Amanda surprisingly well, especially considering the sudden and extremely brutal invasive way it happened. It has been said before but it wasn't like it was a car accident or the ending of a long-term fatal illness/bad prognosis or whatever that ended her life.

The Sheep said...

Do we have any transcripts of Taylor or the others?

Here's another place I'm getting stuck. AKA another way Davey "is lucky":

Taylor and others are so easily caught with clear evidence, including a witness quickly admitting Taylor shot her, but were so careful not to have evidence of a Davey connection, no willingness to turn on Davey?

That Taylor committed a rape/ theft and the a theft/murder the week before killing Amanda? Was it practice for the hired kill? Commit a few extra felonies to throw off the motive of murder for hire?

Their sloppy pattern of a string of theft and violence with hard evidence left behind to prove it don't jibe with a targeted murder for hire that police can't uncover.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else think it odd the governor of Indiana was at her funeral? A tiny church group inside a high school. There is a connection obviously or he wouldnt have attended. Was his office involved to expedite investigation? That something odd was occurring was evident during the live LE press releases.

Lis said...

Peter, I am sure you have called this one correctly, right from the beginning.

I just recently read the book, "Dirty Little Lies," about the murder of Kari Baker by her pastor husband, Matt Baker. It is eye opening in showing how religious figures are given the benefit of the doubt to a ridiculous degree, and also in terms of how deep pathological lying goes. In Kari Baker's case, the authorities were extremely reluctant to prosecute the case. The family basically had to investigate on their own and keep hounding the authorities until they would listen. A lot of the early evidence was lost because of this. Yet the truth prevailed in the end.

I see these photos DB posts on social media all the time of himself smiling manically, having the time of his life. Yet, behind the smile he looks strained. He will eventually crash and burn.

My question is who is the "we" who have nothing to hide? Who else is in this with DB?

Lis said...

Oops, got the name of the book mixed up, it's "Deadly Little Secrets," by Kathryn Casey. On the Kindle you don't see the name of the book so easily as when you have an old fashioned book sitting there!

Anonymous said...

Who else is in this with DB? Who is the we? IMO He's referring to himself and his church group. He's astute enough to know that himself, his group and newspring all could come under suspicion due to past newspring scandals.

Lis said...

Anonymous said...

If, in every fiber of your being, you wish someone dead, and then they end up dead, and yet you had no involvement in the murder, are you guilty of anything?

September 7, 2016 at 8:01 PM


But wouldn't you at least have exhibited some terror over Weston's safety? He's absent from the whole narrative! Wouldn't you still have been fearful for your own safety? Wouldn't you still be horrified at the invasion of the sanctity of your home? It may as well have been you that happened to be home at that time- you would be shook up bad, even if. And, even if you wished the person dead, wouldn't you still have anger at those who did it? Would you be ready to excuse murderers who came into your home and give them a pass just because they happened on the person you wanted to be free from? I don't think so.

There are still so many things that don't add up.

Anonymous said...

This here forum for crime talkin gots a few Lieutenant's Columbos. Not many. But gots a few. He be on it. And back again. And agin. We too be lookin and talkin and be aksin. Sometimes we be waitin but it ok.

Anonymous said...

Rev Jesse Lee Peterson said DBlackburn should not have announced forgiveness for the murderers. Stating it was weakness that offered forgiveness so soon to thugs that may not even want it . Mr Peterson is a Christian man.

Anonymous said...

Incredible timing. Really it was perfect timing. Seems choreographed. The house selection minus the viable male armed homeowner. Entering,exiting, leaving, returning, robbing and killing without a peep from anyone who could've helped her. Help arrives but stays outside. 911 called and police arrive, but No request for ambulance. Placement. Timing. Choreography.

Anonymous said...

But that's often how crime happens.

Anonymous said...

That's because you only have part of the picture.

Anonymous said...

Was it pre planned or unplanned but lucky?

Anonymous said...

Misquotes, when repeated over and over, create misconceptions.

AnonymousSeptember 7, 2016 at 8:20 PM
"Yeh DB saying it's a "conundrum" about his wife being murdered. That has always nagged at me. "


That's not what he said. This is what he said:

"We want to find whoever did this," Blackburn said. "It's such a conundrum. In our hearts, we want justice."

But Amanda — who was deeply religious — would want those grieving her to forgive her killer, he said.

"She lived her life to see people who were the unforgivable be forgiven," he said."

Anonymous said...

It's whatever fits the narrative at the moment.

Anonymous said...

"That Taylor committed a rape/ theft and the a theft/murder the week before killing Amanda?

Was it practice for the hired kill?

Commit a few extra felonies to throw off the motive of murder for hire?"

Yes.

Carnival Barker said...


@ Anon 12:08,

From the Affidavit of Probable Cause:

"A second transaction occurred with Amanda Blackburn's Chase debit card at 1313 W. 86th St. at 6:54 a.m., November 10, 2015. The same subject is on foot and successfully withdraws $400.00"

That ATM is 8 miles from the Blackburn home. Resonate is located on E. 86th Street.

Nic said...

GUILTY KNOWLEDGE

From the "Law Dictionary"

http://thelawdictionary.org/guilty-knowledge/

What is GUILTY KNOWLEDGE?
This term is used when you know that an unlawful situation exists but you choose to ignore such as accepting goods you know are stolen.
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From the thelaw.com

GUILTY KNOWLEDGE
THELAW.COM LAW DICTIONARY & BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY 2ND ED.

Having knowledge that a wrongful act is being committed, such as purchasing goods that one knows or should know are stolen.
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From : http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Guilty+mind
Mens Rea
As an element of criminal responsibility, a guilty mind; a guilty or wrongful purpose; a criminal intent. Guilty knowledge and wilfulness.
A fundamental principle of Criminal Law is that a crime consists of both a mental and a physical element. Mens rea, a person's awareness of the fact that his or her conduct is criminal, is the mental element, and actus reus, the act itself, is the physical element.
The concept of mens rea developed in England during the latter part of the common-law era (about the year 1600) when judges began to hold that an act alone could not create criminal liability unless it was accompanied by a guilty state of mind. The degree of mens rea required for a particular common-law crime varied. Murder, for example, required a malicious state of mind, whereas Larceny required a felonious state of mind.
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What is GUILTY KNOWLEDGE TEST?
Written by Pam MS, NCSP | Fact checked by Psychology Dictionary staff

Lie detector test where knowledge of a crime is tested. A polygraph is used and the examiner will measure the person's physiological arousal to the responses they make.
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The definition is pretty consistent and easily researched.

Jenny said...

So, is it too late to polygraph Davey now? Would his answers show guilty knowledge?

Still hoping for the release of the 911 call.

Anonymous said...

Idk why Davey isn't wracked with guilt.
"why did I leave the house this morning?"
"Why did I leave the house unlocked this morning?"
"Why did I sit in the driveway so long before going inside this morning?"

He's just a cold sociopath, imo

Nic said...

The Sheep said;
Taylor and others are so easily caught with clear evidence, including a witness quickly admitting Taylor shot her, but were so careful not to have evidence of a Davey connection, no willingness to turn on Davey?


What evidence? The only "evidence" is that Taylor was in the house (fingerprint on the doorknob?/if he even left DNA). Amanda wasn't raped, by any of them, that's for certain or they would have been charged with rape. The stolen computer has never been recovered. There is a picture of (Taylor?) holding a gun similar to the one they said killed Amanda, but the gun used to kill Amanda has not been recovered. There is grainy CCTV pics/video of a guy walking in the neighbourhood. Neighbours report seeing someone as they drove out of the neighbourhood, but they don't report that someone being a "bloody" mess. I would think shooting someone three times, including once in the head at the proximity the "witness" said Taylor shot Amanda, would be a mess. The "witness" says he saw him shoot her, but the only one that reports hearing a gunshot, lived towards the top of the street, not the security guard neighbour, the one who carries a gun for a living who lives two (?) doors from the Blackburn residence. Speaking of whom, he and his wife, saw Taylor loitering on the street/at the end of their driveway. This is an aware man. So they had to be up or getting up at the same time the Blackburn's house was being "robbed" and Amanda supposedly murdered. Yet they did not report hearing any gunshots. No one in immediate proximity did.

It'll be interesting to hear what sort of forensic evidence is presented at trial to tag Taylor to Amanda's murder. Nobody is denying Taylor was in the home, not even Taylor. But from what has been released, re "witness" to Amanda's shooting and the neighbours' reported statements, IMO, the witness saying he saw Taylor shoot Amanda has as much credibility as Santa Claus clamouring up the chimney.


Bingo3 said...

Jenny, I have wondered the same thing. Can he still be polygraphed? I think it will be like the Texas story someone posted about earlier. The family will have to step in and call for this to be further investigated. I posted earlier that DB is getting a bit reckless in his behavior. In the last week he has posted a ton of shirtless pics and videos on social media. He is on another vacay with his married roommates (so many ?'s on this one). Maybe they will get tired on his actions and lack of grief and want to investigate further. I don't know. They have been pretty on board with all the Nothing is Wasted stuff too. I think they really need to find peace, comfort and some kind of purpose out of her murder. They really do. Davey is exploiting it for the show and the money and that was the plan all along.

Amy Smith said...

I emailed the Marion County Prosecutors office last week and received this reply:

Dear Ms. Smith,

The recording of Mr. Blackburn’s 911 call is evidence in a pending criminal case. It will become public if it is entered into the court record during the course of a trial or pretrial proceeding, or after the criminal case is concluded.

Sincerely,

Peg McLeish
Communications Director
Marion County Prosecutor’s Office
O: 317.327.5543
C: 317.223.3988
www.Indy.gov/MCPO
Social Media: @MCProsecutors

Nic said...

Lis said:
The family basically had to investigate on their own and keep hounding the authorities until they would listen. A lot of the early evidence was lost because of this. Yet the truth prevailed in the end.


This is why I am not confident that DB will be the subject of any investigation, unless the defence team associated with the accused go after him on the stand. Amanda's family doesn't appear to be at all "dissatisfied" with the outcome of LE's investigation into her murder. If they're fine with the outcome, where is the motivation for IMPD to investigate any further?

jmo

Bingo3 said...

Nic, agreed. Taylor shooting Amanda comes from the CI. I didn't think anyone saw him shoot her. The two accomplices, Bull and Denae reported to the investigators that LT said he shot her and watched her bleed. I thought Larry said he didn't remember anything because he was so wasted. The fact that Larry Taylor was walking down the road without blood and without real concern of being caught is odd. He shot her execution style in the back of the head. He would be covered with blood and brain matter. Why did they leave him there and make him walk through the neighborhood to get to the car. It sounds like they were setting him up to get caught.

The gym bag is so sensitive and DB never fails to mention it with all of his varying versions of that morning. Something was in that gym bag. What was it? He never talks about seeing Amanda for the last time but every single time he talks, he mentions that gym bag. "I called 911 as soon as I could." What did he have to do before he called 911? Stage it to look like rape? Throw things around a bit? Why all the uh's and um's about the morning. Why tell the family and friends it was a head wound from a fall? Every family member and friend that discusses what happened says they were told it was a head wound until they got to the hospital and were shocked when they were told she had been shot three times. Why all of the deception from DB about what he thought happened? The scene had to be gruesome. No way he thought it was anything but what it was and he deceived. What exactly was DB's part in that morning?

Anonymous said...

He may be "presumed" innocent due to his uppity Wesleyan connections. The Wesleyan church is HQ near Indy and his grandparents are connected with at least one person on the President's (of the U.S.) Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

Amy Smith said...

From DB Instagram:

It's fall in heaven and Jesus is serving up pumpkin spice lattes. https://instagram.com/p/BJ1JuJnBsVJ/

The SOB actually put "Nothing is Wasted" on Amanda's headstone. https://instagram.com/p/BJfu11ohfUc/

Amy Smith said...

There is a subreddit Justice for Amanda Grace. I found out there about the second sudden death at Resonate Church in 8 months. In July the teenage son of Davey's board member died suddenly. There are news stories of JK going missing in October 2015. He was found sags the next day in Chicago. https://m.reddit.com/r/Justice4AmandaGrace/comments/4wnn1v/2_resonate_church_deaths_in_8_months/

JK knew Amanda well and posted on Facebook about her death https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=925400627538307&id=100002051349932

This is JK's brother's tweet on the day of JK's funeral:
https://twitter.com/realarizado/status/753401270254264320
"Today, we buried my brother, Joey Kellogg. Joey, your death was not in vain. We will avenge you. We will fight. We will act. We love you."

Amy Smith said...

*safe

Anonymous said...

Traci Mosby at 8:22. You may not know or can say anything, but have you asked your friend if anyone in homicide is suspicious of DB? Also, I saw you post on Twitter that he bought a brand new SUV with all the trimmings just 3 weeks after she died? Is that fact? That alone is super incriminating!

Nic said...

The Sheep said:
The vast majority of the article is about his strange behavior. Peter put the subheading "Behavioral analysis" in the middle of the article; it belongs at the top. "No one is that lucky" is a sarcastic tag line, amusing, but not proof.

But I'm open minded. I'm not saying he didn't kill her; I'm saying I haven't seen proof of guilty knowledge. I mean this sincerely: If SA proves he has guilty knowledge, show me the quotations- bold words if you (or anyone convinced of his guilt) want. Just his words, no commentary at first. This creep has said so much that if he has guilty knowledge, the words will show it.


________

Sheep, the title of this post is “The Murder of Amanda Blackburn: Analysis Conclusion”. Quite literally, "the conclusion" is the summation of the analysis.

Peter said: "Readers who are interested in understanding the conclusion of the analysis should simply search on this blog for the many articles with analysis on the case."

Peter further states: ..the conclusions here are not simply analysis of the words, but behavioral analysis, both pre and post crime. The opinions expressed here particularly in this regard, comes from more than one dozen professionals, including those with decades experience in homicide investigation, ranging from local, state and federal law enforcement, to the professionals within psychology and communication. The representation of the opinion is singular; as the elements were all agreed upon, after much analytical work and discussion.

There are all your answers. If you want a better understanding of how Peter came to his conclusion, from the analyst himself, just do as he suggested and take the time, yourself, to search the blog.

Anonymous said...

The silence of the family may be this: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

Nic said...

Bingo3 said:
"I called 911 as soon as I could." What did he have to do before he called 911?


Tend to the squeaky wheel? Weston? By that time he would have been asleep 12 hours so awake if not waking up. He must have been hungry/thirsty/in need of a diaper change/some comfort? He doesn't even mention him.

Speaking of 911:

I listened to the video Amy linked us to (thank you, Amy). he host pastor (Levi? "come on" (love it)) really illustrated just how contrived DB is. DB is as slow as molasses in January and "flat" when he's setting up the scene in the house when he discovers Amanda. I didn't think he could make it about him, but he succeeded until Pastor Levi literally snaps his fingers, motivating him to get to calling 911 in his story, i.e., feeds DB Amanda's urgency. It's brilliant, actually.

" And um, and so I’m I’m panicking, but, but going “okay” thinking that something had just gone wrong with the pregnancy. Pause. Maybe. Pause. Uh, that, that everything was going to be fine if we could just get Amanda to the hospital. Um, (PL: snapping fingers...."so you’re calling 911") calling 911 trying duh (PL: motioning to DB, "praying") Exactly. The -all- the whole thing, the whole time the only thing I could do was “dear Jesus, please. Dea-dear Jesus please. Dear Jesus, please.” (And it’s bubbling up from within you.) Exactly. Exactly.

Pastor Levi is squirming in his seat and he is animated describing the desperation of prayer bubbling up within him for Amanda, and all DB can do is sit there and agree.

Nic said...

Quoting myself:
Tend to the squeaky wheel? Weston? By that time he would have been asleep 12 hours so awake if not waking up. He must have been hungry/thirsty/in need of a diaper change/some comfort? He doesn't even mention him.


He doesn't mention Weston because he knows he's okay. Just like, he doesn't mention/pray "over" Weston before going to the gym, because he knows he will be safe.

jmo

Bobcat said...

Weston may have been somewhat overdosed on Zyrtec that morning.

Levi GLARES at DB quite a bit during his storytelling.

Nic said...

http://watchkeep.blogspot.ca/2016/08/pastor-davey-blackburn-says-he-and-his.html?m=1

start at 15:15

DB starts talking about Tuesday at 15:24

DB he walks in the living room at 16:02,

16:42 (PL snapping fingers to impart Amanda’s urgency/speed up the story saying (for DB), “so you’re calling 911”),
16:45 (PL: snapping fingers, “praying”), DB parrots PL, and "prays" for Amanda
16:52 (PL, “and it-it’s bubbling up inside you)

It took 40 seconds about talking about himself, from when DB walked in to calling 911, but only because PL forced DB's story along.

lynda said...

Davey added yet another "twist" to his story, one to make him even more sympathetic.

http://freshlifechurch.com/series/single.php?id=81&tm=734

DB:"Yeah, uh, it was a Tuesday morning. Um, most Tuesday mornings are my long day uh at least during this season of life and so I'd wake up, go to the gym super early. Um, so this particular Tuesday morning, woke up about 4:30, spent some time in the word. Um, I remember um, actually, uh I remember sitting there at my couch and for some reason having this sense of praying over the protection of my family and uh Lord just please protect Amanda, please protect Little Evie, uh, make this pregnancy healthy and just spending some time there and, and grabbed my gym clothes,
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So now..CD when doing his devotionals that morning, his devotionals were all about Amanda and the pregnancy and protecting them.
In this video, DAvey is HUGE. His physique has changed drastically. His step-cousin, who is interviewing him, makes mention on what a "stud" he is and how good his body looks and his biceps. What is it with these people and sexualization of the Pastor?

More from this vid
1. You never think this is gonna happen to you, this kind of tragic thing isn't gonna happen to me but when it does happen, you're really grateful for those things.
2. In his retelling the morning..he makes ZERO mention of Westin, checking on Westin, or where Westin was.
3. "There's a whole slew of people out there, actually a sliver, they just happen to be really loud, we call them the trolls.
4. "I literally wrote down a page of things I felt guilty about. The unlocked door was habit for US.
5. I'm praying that at some point I will be able to share the gospel with "these guys" (The 3 murderers)
6. Davey finds out that Larry Taylor was being fostered by a local pastor for the last 6 years making Davey "two arms lengths away from this guy, relationally, that alledgedly killed Amanda."

One of the most disturbing, awful things that Davey said? That he is going to be publishing a collection of Amanda's journals. She HATED when he read them but now he is going to, for a price, let the whole world read them. He leaves this woman NO dignity or privacy at all. It's disgusting.

lynda said...

Another reason I don't think this will ever go to trial?

THey DO NOT want Davey's 911 call released.

Nic said...
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Nic said...

And so I remember being able to recall that later when the investigators came and asked me about what was going on, you know wha-how I found her.

Change in language. Self-sensoring.

I wonder what was DB going to say. Could it have been, "what" happened? How could that be? If he knew "what" happened, that would mean he had "guilty knowledge" making the random home invasion, not so random. Gees, I wonder what it was he was initially going to say.

jmo

Amy Smith said...

He's trying to explain his conflicting accounts of that morning. In the affidavit he gives details of the "things out of place" when the officer arrived at the hospital at 9:01 am just 30 minutes after paramedics arrived and he "had no idea" she had been shot and thought something had gone wrong with the pregnancy. But snap! He was recalling his mental pics.

Anonymous said...

Joey Kellogg died of a drug overdose.

Anonymous said...

"They do not want 911 call released." Who is they? Dont say LE. Who? Why? Pence was there yet no one here pursues why? Political connections in play early into investigation. Who within ABs, Resonates, Newsprings group knows the governor?

Anonymous said...

If the perps insist on going to trial, prosecutors will not be able to force them to take a deal just to keep the 911 call secret. It's silly to even suggest it.

CJ said...

Anon @ 12:32

13. Soft language to describe perpetrators

"And so I was um, about two weeks later I was down in, downtown, at a, a student conference. It was about six thousand teenagers gathered down in downtown Indy, convention center. Elevation worship, who writes many of the songs that we do on a Sunday, um. They were leading worship so I was kinda, I was kinda side stage. We’ve got some friends there that were putting on this, thing and, so I was side stage looking out, at this sea of 6,000 teenagers and the the lord spoke to my heart and said, “Hey Davey, what if Larry Taylor" - who’s the guy that actually pulled the trigger on Amanda - "What if Larry Taylor had had this, when he was twelve years old?” And I don’t know why that thought came to my mind, but it absolutely crushed me.

..... our church’s heart now is to go in and intercept a generation of at-risk and underprivileged kids who, who are turning to an alternative of, you know a lifestyle of gang-related, drug-related activity, right? violence ...

....So now I’m sitting at this coffee and I am, I’m losing it, like I am bawling, because I’m feeling this weight of suh, something the Lord’s doing in this whole story, ‘cuz I’m like, God has now put me two arms length away, relationally, with the guy who, who allegedly killed Amanda.

****
Questions for Davey:
1. Do you want justice for Amanda?
2. Do you think the right suspects are in jail?
3. Do you need the suspects to tell you the truth about the events of that morning?
5. How do you know that Larry Taylor was not involved in Christian outreach as a teen?
4. After your meeting with John Girton (right after the arrests happened) did you have contact with Larry's foster parents?




lynda said...

Anonymous said...
If the perps insist on going to trial, prosecutors will not be able to force them to take a deal just to keep the 911 call secret. It's silly to even suggest it.

September 8, 2016 at 11:33 AM

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What's silly is to think it doesn't happen. These are 3 poor, black, gangbangers who murdered a white woman and her unborn child. It's naive to think that they cannot be strong-armed, manipulated lied to, into taking a deal.Happens every freaking day thruout the nation.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that Davey's grandparents are politically connected. They were on the board of WEsleyan and if I'm not mistaken, I think Grandpa was President. Davey's uncle is also a vice=president of a college
There is money, power, religion, and oh yeah...a completely botched investigation, to provide all the reasons necessary to NOT go to trial.

I'm not saying it will happen, I am saying that I would not be surprised if there are no trials and to say that all they need to do is "insist" and they will get a trial, while true technically and legally, it is not necessarily what happens in the real world.

Anonymous said...

No one witnessed LT pull the trigger. But someone claimed LT told him he did? It may be that an infiltration exists within the gangs. Could be law enforcement and/or an insider. Possibly a church plant in attempt to intercept the at risk. Theres a visible triangle of infuence. LE(political),Church, gang. Very dirty dangerous. Nonfiction.

lynda said...

Anonymous said...
No one witnessed LT pull the trigger. But someone claimed LT told him he did? It may be that an infiltration exists within the gangs. Could be law enforcement and/or an insider. Possibly a church plant in attempt to intercept the at risk. Theres a visible triangle of infuence. LE(political),Church, gang. Very dirty dangerous. Nonfiction.

September 8, 2016 at 12:11 PM

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I believe it's in the PC that Alonzo Bull is the one that stated LT told him that LT killed her and watched her bleed.

Traci Mosby said...

I think that's why he had the plug pulled so quickly. Sure didn't have faith in a miracle for Amanda.

Anonymous said...

Does A Bull have diplomatic immunity?
On the phone instructing the crew. Guilty knowledge and not in custody? Why? Playing both sides? For underpriveledged victims how is it they have nice new clothes, expensive hair doos, mobile phones internet enabled, pics online with guns, cars, booze, money and drugs. And obviously a home. Sympathy for predators but not victims.

Traci Mosby said...

He knew what was going to happen. He knew neither Mel or Weston would be harmed. Interesting he threw that in late in the game!

Traci Mosby said...

Good point!!!

Anonymous said...

Amy Smith acknowledges the Indy Gov presence at funeral.

Bingo3 said...

I transcribed part of his latest sermon because it is just so narcissistic. The callous way he talks about going to Amanda’s tombstone and makes it all about himself is just sickening. He actually says this "It says Blackburn really big and if you’re over looking at the side it says Amanda Grace." He then makes fun of her with a story (he does this in almost every sermon he preaches) He clearly thought he was smarter and better than her. He gets a really disgusted look on his face when he talks about her forgetting to write Blackburn. He then compares changing her name to Blackburn to becoming a new person in Christ. Is he for reelz?

I transcribe from about 6:47 to 9:00
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/what-happens-to-you-when-you-die-week-5-making-the-most-of-the-mist/

I thought about this a couple weeks ago. I went and saw Amanda's tombstone for the very first time, it takes them a while to get the foundation done and pour it and all that and uh her tombstone was up and took Weston there and we took her some sunflowers because that was Amanda's favorite flower and uh it had these dates on it, her birthday and the day she went to heaven. These were the dates and it was it is striking. It’s hard to look at that. Now her tombstone is beautiful. It says Blackburn really big and if you’re over looking at the side it says Amanda Grace and then it has these dates under her and then it says Evie Grace which Evie was our unborn uh baby girl. We were going to name her Everett Grace and it just has that one date November 11th under her and then um uh underneath both it says Nothing is Wasted (pauses looks around) and under that it says Roman 8:28 And we know that God works all things for the good of those who love him and have been called according to his purpose. I know without a shadow of a doubt that Amanda was called according to His purpose and I have been called according to his purpose and this church has been called according to his purpose and we’re in a story that we would not have chosen for ourselves but God is writing it and using it and people’s lives are being changed by it so when I got there to the headstone I looked at it and it gripped me cause you’re just not use to seeing your name on a headstone. You're not used to seeing your best friend's name on a headstone and I’ve seen that date July 31st, 1987 over and over and over. When I went to like change Amanda’s social security number right we went to the social security office which (starts laughing in a very mocking manner) was always really, really funny because when we got married and went to the social security office she was signing her name Amanda Byars which were trying to change it to Amanda Blackburn but she signs it Amanda Byars and I am like (shakes it head and rolls his eyes) you can’t sign it Amanda Byars you're now Amanda Blackburn you know (laughs again) your your a new person which somebody in here needs to understand that you have been living in your past and you keep signing your name your old name and in Christ you're a new person and you need to step into that new name which is Jesus, That is just a totally whole another aside right there. But I am used to seeing that date the July 31st 1987 I am used to seeing that but I am not used to seeing November 11th 2015. Every time I see that it grips me. Every time I see that it grabs my heart, grabs my emotions.(shows NO emotion at all!)

This is all I could take but I did watch a few minutes more where he begins his marketing of Resonate’s upcoming album. He gets super excited telling his church about busing bunches of people from Indy to Elkart on November 11, 2016. They will be releasing the songs his church has been recording. He talks about how incredible the songs are etc. I guess it is time to release the album and make some money. He is trying to follow in Elevation’s footsteps and make loads of money with album sales. It IS all going according to his own selfish purposes in christ Davey.

Anonymous said...

Traci Mosby, when someone is declared brain dead, the hospital will pull the plug after giving the family a chance to say goodbye, or, as in Amanda's case, if the patient is an organ donor, the hospital will wait for the organ donation team to arrive. That's it. Davey didn't have the option of pulling the plug early or waiting days for her to get better. That's not how it works. She was brain dead, not in a coma or just resting.

The Sheep said...

Nic- I have read every Blackburn article here. SA and BA proves he's a liar, proves he's an opportunist, proves he's a narcissist. It does not prove he has guilty knowledge of his wife's murder.

lynda said...

Anonymous said...
Does A Bull have diplomatic immunity?
On the phone instructing the crew. Guilty knowledge and not in custody? Why? Playing both sides? For underpriveledged victims how is it they have nice new clothes, expensive hair doos, mobile phones internet enabled, pics online with guns, cars, booze, money and drugs. And obviously a home. Sympathy for predators but not victims.

September 8, 2016 at 12:38 PM

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That's the 64,000 dollar question..Just WHO is Alonzo Bull and why did he get a pass? To look at his SM..he's a young, POS, gangbanger, that is procreating new little gangbangers at an alarming rate. He openly shows guns, openly advertises that he is selling drugs (he was NOT arrested during the big drug sweep either) and openly talks about how he is NOT a snitch and that if you are a snitch..woe to you.


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Traci Mosby, when someone is declared brain dead, the hospital will pull the plug after giving the family a chance to say goodbye, or, as in Amanda's case, if the patient is an organ donor, the hospital will wait for the organ donation team to arrive. That's it. Davey didn't have the option of pulling the plug early or waiting days for her to get better. That's not how it works. She was brain dead, not in a coma or just resting.

September 8, 2016 at 1:16 PM
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There are all sorts of rules and regulations that govern this. Also, people say "brain dead" and that can be quite confusing. Add that Amanda was pregnant. I do not know the rules/regs of Indiana or that particular hospital but in some states..you CANNOT DISCONNECT any support of a pregnant woman. Declaring someone brain dead is very intense also. All sorts of tests and such and even one comes back abnormal (or showing signs of life such as a spike in sodium,) and you cannot declare brain dead even if zero blood is in the brain. A physician has NO AUTHORITY to remove organ support if the family does not want him to do so. The family can get a court order. They can remove the person from the hospital. There's lots of things really that a family can do if they do not want organ support removed but a doc can't just go into someone's room and disconnect because he thinks that's what should be done. It varies state to state but Davey DID have an option to NOT remove organ support. Hospitals are always clamoring for organs so they like you to do it fast so the organs remain viable but I've seen people wait 3 whole days before they say okay, and Davey even had firmer ground to stand on because she was pregnant. To say that he had no choice and it was up to the hospital is simply not true.

lynda said...

Nic...don't engage The Sheep in his/her rabbit hole of semantics. Peter DID prove it using SA that DAvey has guilty knowledge. The Sheep just refuses to believe it so I guess that makes it true.

Anonymous said...

To "The Sheep",

What do you mean by "prove"? This is only my opinion, but I think SA has given every indication to point to DBs involvement in one way or another. That is, because of all of the things he has said, he certainly could not be eliminated from being involved. Depending on what you mean by "prove", I think I could agree with you.

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