Saturday, September 17, 2016

Blackburn: Projection Pre Crime

Shortly before his wife was murdered in a home invasion in which no great theft took place, Davey Blackburn gave this performance.  




On November 10th, 2015, 3 men entered the home, beat, sexually assaulted and shot 3 times, pregnant Amanda Blackburn.  She languished for 2 days before death came.  The fatal shot was to the back of her head, execution style. 

This is not the general behavior of a home invasion robbery in which sudden and often violent interaction takes place for the purpose of theft; incapacitate the home owner enough to take that which was valued.  

Nor was this typical of sexual assault where the primary interest is rape.  

Nor did Amanda Blackburn pose enough resistance to warrant this elevation in violence ending in murder. 

Pre crime and post crime behavior and wording is critical to an overall understanding of the crime.  

Statement analysis of the statements made by Davey Blackburn following the murder showed:

a.  No fear of the then yet to be apprehended killers, nor concern for his son, his neighbors, and the public at large.  A vicious invasive murder produces profound fear, trauma, and concern that the killers, which appeared to the public as "senseless" (since no major theft took place) only increases the fear due to the seemingly random nature of the crime.  Nothing is as frightening as the unknown and with unknown motive, there is the incessant fear that the killers will return.  If it was known that much cash was in the house and this was a robbery, the trauma is lessened for survivors because the motive 'makes sense' in this limited criminal aspect.  Without sense, brutal rapist killers were on the loose.  

b.  An immediate and intense desire to profit from her death.  The language was commercial and shocked the public. Blackburn showed obsessive language about numbers in attendance, like his mentor, Perry Noble.  This unbridled ambition was evidenced within the specific number of attendees, online, to his 'service', while offering nothing about the victim.  The lack of empathy for Amanda was striking.  

c.  Extreme (given both the context and numerical analysis) distancing language from the victims (including the pre born child).  This lack of human empathy for the victims and immediate and consistent distancing from the victims also shocked the public. 
d.  Language of guilt, offering by himself, "for us, we have nothing to hide."  The use of the plural is something that parents of kindergartens recognize as a need to 'hide' or 'share guilt' among a crowd.  
e.  He claimed "Amanda died so the church would live", justifying her death, while claiming to have been alone, naked in the shower, with the Almighty, who spoke to him and gave him "history making" plans.  He qualified the history making plans by removing responsibility of failure from himself to the congregation.  If he does not make history, it would be their fault.  

This represented two elements within murders common of those who either commit the murder, or have guilty knowledge of the murder:  the need to justify the action, and the need to avoid responsibility.  These are not only found in such crimes, but are personality traits found within deviants.  In child homicides, for example, we often find such statements as
"she would not stop crying", shifting blame to the child.
"she was a teenager, you know..." with a subtle shifting of responsibility to hormonal behavior. 

On the day of the murder, Blackburn went to the gym, as he did regularly, at a specific time, returning home at a specific time, yet on this date, he spoke to his best friend (as was his pattern) but remained on the phone for 40 minutes longer than usual.  

This, alone, as a change from the norm, should be examined, but the additional element makes the deviation from the norm heightened:  on this occasion, he remained in the driveway on the phone call while Amanda bled out, with precious time lost. 

Projection and Pre Crime Behavior 

Before the crime, we look for any signals of projection, or even possible planning. 

What did Blackburn, himself, tell us?

1.  He told us that Amanda hindered his ambition.  He told us that he wanted to be out getting the numbers in, but she wanted him home with her.  

2.  He told us that when Amanda first became pregnant, it was the most stressful time in his life. 

3.  He told us that Amanda was incapable of satisfying his sexual needs.  He went as far as to publicly state (in a 'sermon') that Amanda wanted to go out to dinner, but he was incapable of having a conversation with her at dinner until they had sexual relations.  He reduced the victim (pre crime) to sexually reciprocal body parts.  

4.  His public videos show him correcting and embarrassing her.  This passive aggressive nature was in both word and body language.  The public displays of disrespect and humiliation were subtle and consistent. 

5.  Just before the murder, he gave a 'sermon' (with respect to readers of faith) where he waved about this gun as a choreographed prop.  

A man of unrestrained ambition  told the public what it was that stood in his way of success.  He told the public who it was who stood in his way of success.  

As one 30 year criminal investigator said, "no one gets this lucky."  

As soon as she was murdered, his words betrayed him.  His first announcement was a sales pitch for his business, and his second announcement  was his sales report; the number he obtained.  Then, in the media circuit, he continued to sell himself, referencing his upcoming book, while failing to speak about Amanda.  

He attended his father-in-law's church where he said he could not speak, but then could not stop himself from speaking and gave his speech about his naked shower meeting with Deity (something criminal psychologists and analysts recognize associated with sexual homicides and the need to cleans guilt) about his grandiose plans, fully unimpeded.

Had he been polygraphed, the course of the case might have dramatically shifted.  A defense attorney would have had all the videos removed immediately and would have silenced Blackburn.  

The narcissistic lack of human empathy shocked a nation, but it was specifically in his words that we see the removal of hinderance from his ambitious plans; not unlike powerful, ruthless politicians. 

Blackburn was immediately cleared by police and is judicially innocent of the murder of Amanda Blackburn, as his alibi of being at the gym at the time of her murder was sustained and the three males arrested.  It does not appear that Blackburn was asked to polygraph although the statistics are clear that when a pregnant woman is murdered, the husband/boyfriend is most often involved.  






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Anonymous said...

I don’t know for sure everything that happened in those last 45 minutes of Amanda’s life, either in the natural realm or the supernatural one, but the truths I’ll share with you the next 4 weeks are the ones that have helped me heal.

I don't know
but
the truths

He's gonna rewrite history with new "truths"

Can't wait for the next installment.

Anonymous said...

"I don’t know for sure everything that happened in those last 45 minutes of Amanda’s life, either in the natural realm or the supernatural one..."

Haven't Davey already assured us that she RAN (or was that Amber's story?) into Jesus' arms with tears streaming down her face, grabbed a virgin pina colada and plopped down to tan on the shores of heaven until she was "well done" (because she wasn't well-read or well-traveled)?

Hey Jude said...



Me21 said:


Davey describes his reactions in the aftermath of Amanda's murder.

"For weeks I couldn’t sleep at night. For weeks I suffered with nightmares and forms of flashbacks. For weeks I was terrified to be alone, not knowing where my thoughts and emotions would take me. It was only by the grace of God that my heart could be stilled enough to get some rest over the first two months."

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It's understandable that he would have felt that way in the beginning, terrified, flashbacks, nightmares - that could be due to grieving, or because he was waiting for the police to show and take him in for questioning, or even to arrest him in the middle of the night. The husband is the main suspect, and statistically the most likely culprit in the murder of a pregnant wife, so he would have felt fear of being considered a suspect, whether he had murdered his wife, or not. I don't think that quote has to point to innocence or to guilt - fear, nightmares, flashbacks might trouble him either way. He repeats 'for weeks' three times, making the time he felt that way sensitive - probably he still feels those things at times - and as he has set up home with his friends, he obviously does not want to be alone.

Davey doesn't say what he had nightmares about - he expects people to fill that blank sympathetically. He was terrified of where his thoughts and emotions would take him (prison?) - he does not say he worried that his wife's murderers were on the loose, he could not bear to think about what has happened to Amanda, or how thankful he was that Weston was unharmed. Readers/listeners are meant to fill in the gaps in a sympathetic way - it's not as if he doesn't have the words for anything he very much wants to say, so it's interesting how he leaves some things open to interpretation - an articulate person might be expected to say more about the actual impact of Amanda's murder upon him, rather than obsess on the impact of her death upon church growth, which comes across as a means of justification. Davey has so much need to justify and explain Amanda's murder whilst also seeming not greatly to care on the personal level about what happened to her - it's almost distraction, he is capitalising on 'the story', without ever having really told it.




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Remember the sermon in which he was speaking and behaving as though he thought he might be arrested any minute? Probably not, but it's up there with the rest and makes for interesting viewing.

Bobcat said...

HJ

Do you remember anything else about that sermon?

Hey Jude said...

Not offhand, Bobcat - I linked to it a while back, but I don't know on which Blackburn discussion. He was ranting like crazy - attempting bravado whilst bricking it. I am not in the frame of mind for venturing onto Resonate site, so might not look it out later, but I will if later feels more Resonate tolerant.

Did you get the bit, I think in his recent blog post, about people pointing out his 'blindspots' - I thought that sounded as if he was either being helped or challenged regarding all that he has not said, his insensitivity, or his discrepancies. Who, in the midst of apparent grief, has or cares about 'blindspots'? As he said, people grieve differently. Still, help with blindspots welcome. :-D. He's such a - I don't know what. (Weston and the latterly acknowledged Evie Grace would fall into the category of early 'blindspots', I'd say.)

Thanks for the timeline, and to Nic, if I didn't already.

Anonymous said...

I don't remember the blindspots blog, or the ranting sermon (or I've blocked them out). Will search later.

Hey Jude said...

Reposting this here in case it got lost in the dross:


Nic said:


Note that according to Taylor's cell phone record, he was not at the first robbery. So anything the CI says about him being there is a lie. In fact, the stills taken from the first robbery says "three" -- but then references "two were definitely inside the residence and the third was either just inside or at the doorway to the apartment." So is the third figure a shadow or a person? Or a partial image? Could the third person have been the person who lived there? jmo

Donae Mitchell said they (Taylor, Gordon, Watson) left her place at 3:30, but according to the records, Taylor's phone doesn't even enter the "story" until 6:38am on Sunnyfield. So the CI's "story" about anything that Taylor supposedly did or said at the first two robberies, is a lie. (The second robbery being committed at 5:36.) He wasn't even there. Anything that that CI said about Taylor walking into the Blackburn residence (busting Amanda in the mouth)is a lie because according to his cell phone record, he didn't even arrive to Sunnyfield until Gordon and Watson had left with Amanda's debit card. So they either obtained it themselves by going into the Blackburn residence, or someone else emerged with the card for them. It wasn't Taylor.

Taylor is the fall guy. He was parachuted into the "story" and left there long enough to be seen by a rousing street/neighbourhood.

jmo

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Thanks for this, Nic. I can see why someone might want to bury it.

I have suspected all along that the three who were arrested were set up to discover the crime scene - whether one of them fired the final shot, or not, I am not convinced they set out that morning to commit a murder, or to be placed at the scene of a crime which was already in progress, or that whoever sent them there was prepared for that either. It is quite possible for Davey to have committed the crime, having arranged via whoever for some suckers looking for easy pickings to take the fall. I'm very interested in the Swisher Sweets pack, and in the forensics from the house - hopefully all will be revealed.

It will probably be a relief to everyone when Me21 is finally able to establish whose theories are the wildest, and picked out of the thinnest air.

Anonymous said...

Under posting of Hey Jude above:

Davey doesn't say what he had nightmares about - he expects people to fill that blank sympathetically. He was terrified of where his thoughts and emotions would take him (prison?) - he does not say he worried that his wife's murderers were on the loose, he could not bear to think about what has happened to Amanda, or how thankful he was that Weston was unharmed.
*************************************************
During THIS hour with CD, we will consider the struggles of car buying, house-
hunting, and traveling all while grieving:

And, up NEXT! Details of why CD worried where the murderers were and how
they could be a threat to the community...

But, wait, THERE'S MORE! How CD finally could start the process of thinking
how Amanda figures into all of this and what happened to her.

For the low, low price of your conscience, we will include TWO for ONE: Why
Weston AND the beloved family dog went unharmed.

STAY TUNED, we will return after this message...

You can pay with cash, credit card, cash, or check.

(Sarcasm, for those who don't recognize it as such. I've had a bad day and I am
more bummed over my broken fridge than CD appeared over his wife's death.)

Me2l said...

Hey Jude said......

Thanks for this, Nic. I can see why someone might want to bury it.

I have suspected all along that the three who were arrested were set up to discover the crime scene - whether one of them fired the final shot, or not, I am not convinced they set out that morning to commit a murder, or to be placed at the scene of a crime which was already in progress, or that whoever sent them there was prepared for that either. It is quite possible for Davey to have committed the crime, having arranged via whoever for some suckers looking for easy pickings to take the fall. I'm very interested in the Swisher Sweets pack, and in the forensics from the house - hopefully all will be revealed.

It will probably be a relief to everyone when Me21 is finally able to establish whose theories are the wildest, and picked out of the thinnest air.
September 26, 2016 at 12:56 PM




.....except that the affidavit says that:

“Taylor stated that she charged at him and he shot her somewhere in the upper body so he would not be scratched,” the document states. “Taylor then told them that he leaned over her body and shot her in the back of the head. He leaned further, looked at her face, and watched her bleed.”

I realize the affidavit is widely ignored here, though, in favor of the thin-air theories.

It could "take years" to establish the wildest theory. Currently, take your pick, because all of them have huge holes.

To date, they're still just wild theories and fantasy and may "take years" to corroborate.

My, my, emotionally distraught HJ, were you taking an unsolicited p/a dig at me, as is so common for you?

Me2l said...

Niiiice, HJ....monopolizing half the page with your re-posted walls of text.

Anonymous said...

Me2l,

You're quoting hearsay (from the darling choirboy Diano Gordon) from the APC as proof that other theories are incorrect.

Anonymous said...

I guess Hey J chose to ignore this response to Nic's BS claiming she knows everything on Taylor's phone record ... even what's NOT included in the affidavit:


Where are you getting that info? Where have you seen Taylor's full cell phone records?

The affidavit is explaining how police connected the dots and found the three perps: DNA hit leads to Watson. A snoop through Watson's friends leads to Gordon. Police get warrants for both their numbers. Phone records lead to Taylor's phone number. Warrant for Taylor's number reveals Taylor's phone at Blackburn home while the others where traveling to ATM.

They don't have to say in the affidavit that Taylor's phone records show he was at the other burglaries. Their primary concern would be the murder charges and showing probable cause for those charges. The burglaries are secondary.

They charged him with the burglaries, so the logical conclusion is they have proof his phone was there, too.



Nic has done more misinterpreting, misrepresenting and misconstruing of the affidavit than anyone here. It's as if she's reading an entirely different document than the rest of us. Anyone who thanks her for that is an idiot troll.

(Notice Nic never responded to explain how she magically knows all of Taylor's phone records when the rest of us do not.)

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, you don't know that Diano is the CI. The police originally had four people in custody, and it's highly possible the CI is that fourth person who was released. The story certainly favors Diano, but that could be because the CI is closest to Diano. Either way, that person is a snitch, so the whole "no snitching" thing went out the window long ago whether people here want to admit it or not.

TellMeAboutYourMother said...

Me2l is the former Brenda Shigley, which explains a helluva lot about Davey.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 2:40,

True, true. But they CI's "story" seems to put Diano in the most innocent light, with Larry in the most guilty - almost as if it was told from Diano's perspective.

Either way, it's hearsay and doesn't prove alternate theories incorrect.

Anonymous said...

Yeah sure, anon @2:50 (bobcat). And Nic is Larry Jo's mama.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 2:34

I did respond, it's just that you didn't like what I said. Which is, if Taylor was actually there, then the telephone company's subpoenaed records would have reflected it and it would have been included. You saying that LE chose not to include the information because, (paraphrasing,) it was just more information than necessary to demonstrate what was necessary, or there is some reason to not fully disclose the information because of an "on-going" investigation, is non-sensical. If it were true and LE could point to the proof, it would actually lend credibility the CI's story. In my opinion, LE couldn't include it or say it (that the evidence points to Taylor), hence the "CI' says it for them because of the footer they sign off on, on every page (swearing under penalty of perjury).

Does LE ever have to reveal their source? There is no consequence to a LI from a "CI", right, especially if the identity of the source doesn't have to be revealed.

Nic said...

*no consequence to lying for

Hey Jude said...

No, the times, phones, pings and known owners are all stated somewhere - in the affidavit? I presume Nic was working with that - I would need to draw a map and stick people to even begin to get my head round all that info as to who was where with what phone when, so it is impressive to me. What is not impressive is Me21 quoting what Larry Taylor allegedly said to the CI as if it were fact - the intention to mislead and present an alternative narrative to that presented by the affidavit. It has been pointed out to Me21 previously that those words are not an admission or confession made to investigators by Larry Taylor - they are words which were put into his mouth by an informer or 'co-operating individual' - ie, one keen to implicate others and to underplay their own involvement in a crime,

What is your motive in repeatedly twisting known facts from the addidavif, Me21?

Hey Jude said...

Or even 'the affidavit ? .,,. Meh.

Anonymous said...

Nic you have demonstrated repeatedly that you don't understand the affidavit. Either you're new at following crime cases and reading affidavits, or you have an agenda to try and convince people the poor little thugs are innocent. Which is it?

TellMeAboutYourMother said...

To protect his/her "good enough to outsmart LE" son/friend/lover/protege.

Me2l has a close personal stake...the only question is the posture of the relationship.

What is not at question is that Me2l is an abusive tyrant.
What is not at question is that DB's language suggests abuse.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 2:34

Warrant for Taylor's number reveals Taylor's phone at Blackburn home while the others where traveling to ATM.


They don't have to say in the affidavit that Taylor's phone records show he was at the other burglaries. Their primary concern would be the murder charges and showing probable cause for those charges. The burglaries are secondary.

They charged him with the burglaries, so the logical conclusion is they have proof his phone was there, too.

___________

I disagree. The agenda driving the investigation into Amanda’s murder was the prosecutor's "success" record. The need for Hite to persuade how hard the detective (singular) worked on the Amanda Blackburn case is sensitive. The reference to “long hours” isn’t even assigned to anyone. Cumulatively there were long hours, but DB was “100% cleared” in hours on the basis of his “word” (Amanda was alive when he left,) and a gym video.


Video: Terry Curry, Marion County Prosecutor:
Today, charges of murder, and felony murder, and multiple counts of burglary, robbery, theft and other charges has been filed against Larry Taylor Jr., he is charged with the knowing or intentional killing of Amanda Blackburn as well as uh, two counts of felony murder. In addition, Jalen Watson has been charged with felony murder and likewise multiple counts of burglary, robbery, theft an-and other charges. The first significant break was a, um, a DNA CODIS hit, uh, that tied Mr. Watson to what was believed to be the, uh, sweater or t-shirt that covered the face of the individual who was utilizing the bank card of Amanda Blackburn.

Video: Rick Hite, Indianapolis Police Chief:
The detective worked tirelessly without sleep. Long hours. He put in a lot of time to make sure we bring justice. But not just in this case, there are other cases still pending. As we were talking about the, uh, th-the success of the prosecutor’s office, there have been 34 cases, murder cases they have brought forward. And there are several more in the hopper. We want people to understand, we are serious about bringing back the issue of peace and tranquility to our neighbourhoods.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3401143/Third-man-charged-murder-shooting-death-pastor-s-pregnant-wife-faces-lesser-counts-two-home-invasions.html#ixzz4Ktpjj2pB

Bobcat said...

Nic,
This is from Kenneth Wagner speaking at Resonate on Sunday, November 15, 2015 - in the AM before the memorial service later in the day at Trader's Point.
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/resonate-church-how-did-we-get-here/

“I got a phone call, that explained what had happened to Amanda, and they had said it happened last night and I said “It’s impossible, because I talked to Davey this morning. It’s impossible.” I began to hope, and pray that it was impossible, that it wasn’t, reality. The texts begin to flood, the calls begin to flood and I realize that it was the truth.”

At what time cutoff does "night" become "morning"?

What is Ken realizing is the truth?
1. That it happened last night (before he talked to DB), or
2. what had happened to Amanda, or
3. both?

Anonymous said...

Oh good grief ....now Me2l is Davey's mom? GMAFB. Last week you guys were insisting she was Meg. Grow the hell up. You're making yourselves look so stupid. Do you not realize that?

Nic said...

Video: Terry Curry, Marion County Prosecutor:
Today, charges of murder, and felony murder, and multiple counts of burglary, robbery, theft and other charges has been filed against Larry Taylor Jr., he is charged with the knowing or intentional killing of Amanda Blackburn as well as uh, two counts of felony murder. In addition, Jalen Watson has been charged with felony murder and likewise multiple counts of burglary, robbery, theft an-and other charges. The first significant break was a, um, a DNA CODIS hit, uh, that tied Mr. Watson to what was believed to be the, uh, sweater or t-shirt that covered the face of the individual who was utilizing the bank card of Amanda Blackburn


Further, the sweater CODIS hit on was from a robbery NONE of the three were present for. It came from the neighbour's house! According to phone records, Gordon and Watson were in the vicinity of the tower at the first burglary until appx. 30 minutes before arriving to Sunnyfield. So, if the three of them weren't there, for the second "hit" at 5:36 ((5:36AM second burglary, video depicting “a subject” who disabled the system), who then was on the street to give it to them?

Nic said...

So we have:

an (unknown) subject on Sunnyfield at 5:36
an unknown driver dropping Taylor off at 6:28
an unknown in possession of 3175
an unknown in possession of Gordon's second phone (whom he calls from the first robbery)


I wonder if anybody ever cared to ask Taylor who dropped him off onto Sunnyfield and what that person's cell phone number is.

Me2l said...

Why, of course not! Investigators don't have a clue what they're doing. They just randomly arrested three people and charged them with murder, based on virtually nothing and no investigation. I doubt if any one of them, including Larry Taylor, was polygraphed.

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Me2l said...

Anon @4:49, the Mom thing is the latest from Crazy Akexandra, aka Trudy recently. The Hydra is a writer, you know, so she creates fantasy and fiction.

September 26, 2016 at 5:35 PM Delete

Anonymous said...

Omg Nic you're so full of $hit. I'm not sure if you're just super dense or lying on purpose to help the thugs.

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Nic said...

@ 5:38pm,

If I'm full of it, then the APC and the information volunteered by the CI is full of it, because it's from the third-party subpoenaed information in the APC the LE used to corroborate their allegations, which allowed them to arrest Taylor, Gordon and Watson. The thing about the information is that it was incorporated out of order. If you care to take the time to go through it and put everything in chronological (something the investigators didn't bother to do,) you will see what I posted is exactly what is in the APC.

Anonymous said...

Nic,

Did you see my 4:36 post?

Hey Jude said...

Me21 said:
Why, of course not! Investigators don't have a clue what they're doing. They just randomly arrested three people and charged them with murder, based on virtually nothing and no investigation. I doubt if any one of them, including Larry Taylor, was polygraphed.


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Well, let's hope that is not true...they surely have taken polygraphs.

Anonymous said...

Do you people not understand that the doctors would be able to tell if she were shot the night before as opposed to a little more than an hour before she arrived at the hospital?

You have such a hard time believing only one neighbor reported hearing the morning shots, yet you're willing to believe she was shot the night before and NOBODY heard it? Really?


http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10033&stc=1&d=1243405443

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 6:41,

How can the doctors tell exactly when she was shot? Please enlighten me.

I don't "believe" she was shot the night before, but I am open to the possibility.

DB is expert at planning elaborately timed productions, and I have no doubt that Amanda's demise was one of them.

Kenneth Wagner made a very interesting statement for analysis.

Anonymous said...

Also anon 6:41

It was almost two hours between the time the shots were "heard" and Amanda arrived at the hospital.

Anonymous said...

Me2l said Anon @4:49, "the Mom thing is the latest from Crazy Akexandra, aka Trudy recently. The Hydra is a writer, you know, so she creates fantasy and fiction."

No, the Mom thing was from you, not me. And I wouldn't worry about Davey's Mom or whether I'm a writer or not; I'd worry about yourself being a middle-aged troll and why you're own Mommy won't let you out of her metaphorical basement and why you willingly stay there. She likes you to stay weak and sick and dependent or she won't "love" you anymore, is that the issue?

Me2l said...

Which part of The Hydra are you tonight, nutjob?

FJ said...

Eddy, is that you? I haven't seen you since you got booted from FJ. Pissing everyone off as usual?

Hillarysafrickinscum said...

Hillary Clinton's a scumbag, and her smile is terrifying. I will vote for anyone who doesn't smile like that it is so horrifying.

Hillarylookshotinred said...

Hillary I love you I place all my faith in you I stand strong with you!

IloveLesterHoltmuah! said...

Lester Holt sounds like Darth Vader if you close your eyes. I am voting for him.

Donald called Rosy adog youcan'ttrusthimwithnukes said...

Don't question her staminima you sleazebag!

Shelookslikeawaxsculpture why? said...

Hillary looks like she's made out of wax and looks like she will fall over.

Hillarysucks said...

I'm so glad for these fact checkers!!!

I hate you HIllary!!!!!!!

I'mforyouHillary said...

Hillary is the one who can lead us. She can stay strong and composed in the face of anything and she smiles like the Joker.

Anonymous said...

Blood clotting factors and blood's appearance would help to indicate the
time of shooting. Recent blood is redder and thinner and clotting may
have started recently. Amount of total blood volume and blood observed
could lend some clues. Older blood turns dark red or nearly black in color
and it would be of a thicker consistency as time wore on. Large clots
would have formed and there would be a higher concentration of platelets
and white blood cells at the site. The condition of the brain and blood
within the skull might be helpful, too, as seen on scans and lab work
might generate indicators. Also, body temperature, signs of the body
adapting to meet the challenge to itself, and any signs of degenerative
body changes.

Anonymous said...

Right now my mind's on the debate and why Hillary looks like she's made out of wax.

Anonymous said...

.I've never looked at her closely before because I was scared to. I think she has Parkinson's now that I think about it. Her facial muscles seem weak and she has a mask-like expression.

Hey Jude said...

Maybe forensics will be able to determine, from how congealed the blood was, and how much, the length of time Amanda had likely lain there before Davey went home to discover her. It's pretty amazing what they can work out from what is present or absent at a crime scene, and hopefully they have a decent budget for such things - it might be stretched considering the high incidence of murder in Indianapolis, but I bet they would still pull out all the stops to discover who was responsible for the murder of a mother and her unborn baby.

Anonymous said...

This is the first time I've seen Hillary on TV is years because I never watch TV, and I am alarmed, because she definitely does have a neurological disorder.
Hasn't she had fainting spells also? That could be a sign of Lewy Body Dementia which is often misdiagnosed as Parkinsons. My uncle had that, and it is very bad...if she has that she will go downhill very quickly, and will pretty much totally lose contact with reality and will begin having complex vivid hallucinations...that's what happened to my uncle who was the coolest guy but it just takes over. I think he got it from working with chemicals in green houses because he owned his own green house business. But HIllary definitely has something resembling Parkinsons'. You can tell her facial muscles movements are slow and not coordinated and that she has a lack of unconscious facial movements and a mask-like expression. Combine that with fainting spells, she has something wrong...it is so obvious from looking at her face...I had not seen on TV for years only in photographs...

Anonymous said...

Andif she has that she should NOT be president. When my uncle had it (before he died from it) even if you showed him a simple photograph of a person, he would see birds flying around in it, and landing on the person's shoulder. That was the only time he seems to have enjoyable hallucinations. It causes the person to degenerate quickly. My uncle was very intelligent and the nicest guy ever but it is just a bad disease

Hey Jude said...

Ah, someone already said that better.

So, Me21 - it might not be as simple as just taking the CI's word that Larry Taylor killed Amanda and then leaned over and watched her bleed. On the other hand it might be that simple - probably best to wait and see how the forensics turn out. It's possible someone's best laid plans might have got messed up. These may be anxious days (for Davey, or someone else).

It just is rubbish, the story that Taylor shot Amanda in the arm, back and head in self-defence against a potential scratch. It's so rubbish, as if it was made to be able to fall apart upon questioning, IMO.

Me2l said...

I wonder if LT was polygraphed on that?

Hey Jude said...

(I was referring to my previous comment there, not to Anon's observations on Hillary.)

Anonymous said...

Hey Jude, Thanks for clarifying what you were talking about to the other aspects of yourself. Continue.

Me2l said...

Hey Jude said...
Ah, someone already said that better.

So, Me21 - it might not be as simple as just taking the CI's word that Larry Taylor killed Amanda and then leaned over and watched her bleed. On the other hand it might be that simple - probably best to wait and see how the forensics turn out. It's possible someone's best laid plans might have got messed up. These may be anxious days (for Davey, or someone else).

It just is rubbish, the story that Taylor shot Amanda in the arm, back and head in self-defence against a potential scratch. It's so rubbish, as if it was made to be able to fall apart upon questioning, IMO.
September 27, 2016 at 12:00 AM


You see, that's my point. Investigators don't make it a habit to arbitrarily arrest someone for murder without a few basic preliminary investigative procedures. After all, prosecution would like to be able to prove its case in court. I believe that's been stated several times by various commenters in these discussions. If LT were being set up, does it not make sense that some of the investigative techniques would have revealed that or at least, brought it into question.

Oh yes, and as far as the "someone else" reference I made that is so terribly "confusing", I sarcastically meant the countless others commenters have implicated in their various inane theories. On second thought, most of those implications were probably presented by The Hydra rather than other commenters.

Hey Jude said...

Well, the investigation may be following that line of inquiry, Me21 - if that is so, it wouldn't be public knowledge, and who knows what , or who, might come out at the trial?

As, they say, "It's not over till the fat lady sings... ".

Bingo3 said...

I thought it was a bit humorous that on Snapchat Davey apologized that he didn't have the "Assistant Snap" from his last sermon up. He said he had to use his phone as a prop in his sermon, therefore his assistant Megan was not able to "Snap Assist" all morning. First of all, I think we can all assume Davey didn't have an assistant when Amanda was still alive. Why does a pastor of 200-250 need an assistant? Because his successful pastor friends and mentors do. Just like he had to move to two sermons when the gymnasium where he preaches seats 900. He has two sermons for 200-275 Total people in a gymnasium that seats 900. Grandiosity anyone? Megan takes shots of the green room and all the food she has out for Davey. She sits as far back in the auditorium blocked out at about row 8-12 to make it look like a ton of people are there and gets shots of him preaching. He then posts it all on Snapchat and this week apologizes to all the poor people who had to miss a week of the "Snap Assist". Oh my

Bingo3 said...

From Davey Blog:
"To be frank, unless you've walked in to find your best friend lying on your living room floor, struggling to take every breath, blood smeared all around her, you’ll never truly understand what it’s like to wrestle with the post-trauma I’ve been forced to (and frankly it blows my mind there are some people heartless enough to try and assert themselves into this narrative with their own inclinations as to how I or anyone for that matter should be grieving)."

First of all, watching Davey on GMA, Inside Edition FOX News and INDY News, I was baffled at how "fine" he seemed. I expected him to be tearful, messy, unshaven only on tv to beg for information on the killer. I was shocked to see a smiling, perfectly groomed, well dressed, laughing Davey. He didn't seem in the least traumatized. His blog posts don't match his public behavior. He tells us he was traumatized. He writes stories. His book should be interesting but his behavior will not match the stories. His stories will not match his stories.

I also found it interesting that it still seems all about him. He will not ever show concern for what Amanda went through. Only how it affected him and then again gets upset with everyone for telling him how he should grieve. Has anyone ever heard him say, "I am heartbroken to think about what my poor Amanda endured that morning. I love her so much and would swap places with her in a heartbeat." NOPE! Only, "Poor me! People are criticizing me for not grieving enough. She is heaven ya'll, drinking Pina Coladas! Weston is perfectly great and is going to be raised exactly how I please. She died at just the right time! Stop asking me to grieve! I got money to make, people to save, numbers to increase and trips to take!"

When someone decides to go public the day their wife dies and every single thing said is about themselves, expect criticism. Again, he should have gone away and grieved like a normal person but I think most of us know, that was never the plan!

Anonymous said...

The big question is how many more lives will be destroyed before his reign of abuse is put to an end.

I think I feel worst for Amber right now. Everything is pretty in Amber's world - even Amanda's death which was the "best day of her life".

On the outside, DB is very pretty, but on the inside there is an ugly truth that might destroy Amber's reality.

Nic said...

Bobcat said...
Nic,

Did you see my 4:36 post?


No, I missed it!

Who's "they"? Projecting: Last night falls prior to going to sleep. Even if I'm up until 4:00am (rarely in my life unless we're talking about when my kids were babies,) upon reflection I would say "I was up late last night. I didn't get to bed until 4:00am!" Which is technically in the morning, but I would still say "last night".

I wonder, did DB ever go to sleep that night? Did he shower before he went to the gym, or when he got home? I bet he didn't shower at the gym, or at home.

I wonder if it would be too late to go back to the scene of the crime and swab the shower drain for DNA.

Nic said...
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Nic said...

Anonymous @6:41 said:
Do you people not understand that the doctors would be able to tell if she were shot the night before as opposed to a little more than an hour before she arrived at the hospital?


Wrong. This was actually addressed in the JonBenet case. A coroner will not/cannot determine time of the incident/death without a witness to the crime. That is unless they want to appear credible.

Besides, Amanda was alive when she arrived to the hospital, so time is moot. She had a heart beat and body temperature.

Nic said...

Hillarysafrickinscum said...
Hillary Clinton's a scumbag, and her smile is terrifying. I will vote for anyone who doesn't smile like that it is so horrifying.
September 26, 2016 at 11:01 PM


I made the exact same observation and posted about this under the lies and deception. Chucky doll/ventriloquist doll like gap smile. Totally contrived.

Anonymous said...

Wow...Davey's latest blog post

"I looked back at Heidi with tears in my eyes and couldn’t answer her. Up to this point I’d been able to accept most things surrounding the new reality I was living, but this . . . this one was still eluding me. Heidi probably thought I had surmised an answer to this question when she asked it. What she didn’t realize is I had been incessantly wrestling with this since the morning I found Amanda. Why, God!? Why would you take her? Why like this?"

He makes it sound like life is so hard right now, that the new reality is unpleasant- when it's actually Crossfit, pools, new house, new SUV, trips all over the place. And saying he has been wrestling with why Amanda was taken is disingenuous as well. He explained early on that the reason Amanda was taken was because God wanted his church, his bride, to come alive- isn't that what God told him in the shower? It was so that the Methodist Hospital and all of Indy and even the world would have revival the likes of which had never yet been seen. That was the rationale we've been being given for months - it was clear cut in his mind then, why explain it now?

In reality, the reason Amanda was sacrificed the way she was (presented to the father holy and blameless with help by Davey) was to make a more poignant story and draw more people in.


"Prior to my conversation with Heidi I couldn’t wrap my mind around the whole thing. So many questions and so few answers. Nothing to comfort my aching heart. No answers, and so rather than wallowing in a vortex of uncertainty I tried to suppress that nagging question. I concluded not to dwell on the last 45 minutes of Amanda’s life and instead focus on all the memories we had and the legacy she was leaving behind."

45 minutes is a number that keeps recurring - it's not "the last hours" - it's always "the last 45 minutes". What is so sensitive about the 45 minute statement and timeframe ? - especially given that Amanda was still breathing when he walked in to find her - still alive until the following day.

The legacy...yet again. I think that word was also used in his initial statement (the one that started with "it's impossible to communicate all of the emotions my heart has been forced to process")

This has been a concocted story from the VERY beginning.

CJ said...

Bingo3 said...

His stories will not match his stories.

************

From Davey's Blog:
"To be frank, unless you've walked in to find your best friend lying on your living room floor, struggling to take every breath, blood smeared all around her...

From Davey's Blog (Long Bio):
"On November 10th, 2015 Davey came home from the gym to find his wife murdered in a home invasion."

Anonymous said...

More from the most recent blog post -

"Before I move on, let me say this wasn't a bad thing. It wasn’t unhealthy for me not to focus on what happened to her. To be frank, unless you've walked in to find your best friend lying on your living room floor, struggling to take every breath, blood smeared all around her, you’ll never truly understand what it’s like to wrestle with the post-trauma I’ve been forced to (and frankly it blows my mind there are some people heartless enough to try and assert themselves into this narrative with their own inclinations as to how I or anyone for that matter should be grieving)."

To be frank, Davey, your description of how you found "your best friend" is not only unnecessarily graphic for Amanda's family to read and now probably picture forever in their minds - but it also sounds quite a bit more serious than "injured and unconscious". While we don't know your exact words to 911 (yet), I imagine if you had reported this graphic scene in those words, the 911 dispatcher just might have thought this was a crime scene and not a miscarriage.

And from reading this description of how Amanda looked in your own blog, you CERTAINLY can no longer pass this off as thinking something had gone wrong with the pregnancy. It sounds more like Rachel McAdams' scene in Southpaw.


It blows your mind that people are inserting themselves (not asserting) into this narrative? This really is all.about.you - isn't it? YOU brought this on yourself by your actions. Echoing Bingo3's post somewhat - If you watch your own interviews from last fall during the season of pain- with the volume off, you could be talking about going to Disneyland - not about the massive assault and murder of your wife and loss of little evie grace. You alone are responsible for our impressions of your lack of grief. Everyone can see straight through it.

You could have ended some or all of this speculation with a flat out denial - it has been almost a year and we've still not heard you say you had nothing to do with Amanda's murder. Why not address the doubters, squash the haters - but you either won't or can't say it.

Nic said...

"I looked back at Heidi with tears in my eyes and couldn’t answer her. Up to this point I’d been able to accept most things surrounding the new reality I was living, but this . . . this one was still eluding me. Heidi probably thought I had surmised an answer to this question when she asked it. What she didn’t realize is I had been incessantly wrestling with this since the morning I found Amanda. Why, God!? Why would you take her? Why like this?"

"with tears in my eyes"
Perfectly placed emotion

"couldn't answer her"
dropped pronoun. Couldn't is being "limited" to what he could say to her.

"Up to this point", is in line with "all of a sudden", i.e., story telling

"this", (x 5) which is what he has been "wrestling" with, is very sensitive.
There is no reason for "this" to have happened to Amanda, to the outsider.

Anonymous said...

And more -

"For weeks I couldn’t sleep at night. For weeks I suffered with nightmares and forms of flashbacks. For weeks I was terrified to be alone, not knowing where my thoughts and emotions would take me. It was only by the grace of God that my heart could be stilled enough to get some rest over the first two months."

By the grace of God he had no idea what had happened to Amanda - I guess also by the grace of God that his heart could be stilled enough that he went skiing and looked so happy. He looks really good for someone who can't turn his mind off, who isn't sleeping and is having nightmares. This instagram pic was taken not long after after Amanda was murdered - and the guy in the center of this pic does not look like a guy who is suffering in any way, shape or form- from lack of sleep or grief or anything else.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BA4__MWh4A_/?taken-by=daveyblackburn


"But after Heidi asked me that question, I felt this prompting from the Holy Spirit that it was ok (and even time) for me to “chase” this question further. I couldn’t shake the idea that Jesus wanted to redeem this part of the process for me too.

This is in the context of his now thinking about the last 45 minutes of Amanda's life - FINALLY. After we've been talking about it for months that it didn't seem to concern or affect him.

More likely than right now that "Jesus is wanting to redeem this part of the process for him too", there's the fact that people are talking about it incessantly (and will continue to do so) and therefore it's time for more damage control, or a feeble attempt at it anyway. It's like clockwork - we comment, and Davey and/or someone close to him reads it, and another blog post explaining things is generated.

And again, it's "the process" - from the the beginning it has been a process, an event.
A story too. First Amanda's story but it has turned into "my story".


And whoever wrote that M32I is invested heavily in the outcome of this, who most likely cares deeply for Davey, is someone close - is spot on.

Aprilrsin71 said...

Hi - I have never posted here but have been reading since Amanda was killed. I have believed from the get-go that Davey had something to do with it.

What I have also noticed is how everything he writes in his blog seems as though it's written for a novel.

"so rather than wallowing in a vortex of uncertainty..." Why can't he just speak like a regular person recounting his true feelings without the theatrics? It is all so contrived.

Bobcat said...

Nic @ 9:24,

I got a phone call, that explained what had happened to Amanda, and they had said it happened last night and I said “It’s impossible, because I talked to Davey this morning. It’s impossible.” I began to hope, and pray that it was impossible, that it wasn’t, reality. The texts begin to flood, the calls begin to flood and I realize that it was the truth.”

IF "last night" means before sleeping and waking, THEN; I suppose "they" could have misheard that Davey found Amanda when he got up as opposed to when he came home from the gym.

Something may have been lost in translation during the call Kenneth received... but...there were also follow up texts. Kenneth was very deliberate in his words during the quoted statement. The portion "and they had said it happened last night" was not stated by accident. The sentence works without it, making it extra information and very important.

CJ said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wow...Davey's latest blog post

45 minutes is a number that keeps recurring - it's not "the last hours" - it's always "the last 45 minutes". What is so sensitive about the 45 minute statement and timeframe ? - especially given that Amanda was still breathing when he walked in to find her - still alive until the following day.

The legacy...yet again. I think that word was also used in his initial statement (the one that started with "it's impossible to communicate all of the emotions my heart has been forced to process")

This has been a concocted story from the VERY beginning.

September 27, 2016 at 9:59 AM

*****

Anon, good post. The encounter with Heidi probably happened, but I find it highly doubtful that they had a teary, 45-second hug in the middle of a Starbucks, or that this nice Christian woman used the word "gruesome" in referring to Amanda's shooting.

I have been pondering Davey's references to "45" for about a day now. (45-second hug with Heidi; 45 minutes Davey lies on the floor with headphones on (from the "Running toward the Roar" post), the last "tortuous 45 minutes" of Amanda's life (Newspring appearances), and another reference to the last 45 minutes of Amanda's life here.

IMO, For Davey, Amanda died when she sustained the gunshot to her head. (Note that in his long bio he tells us he came home from the gym to find her "murdered.")

The first reports from the LE presser were that Davey left home at 6:11 that morning. The affidavit states changes that to "around 6:00." A neighbor is in bed between at approximately 6:40 to 6:45 when she hears two shots and what sounded like a woman scream. (Note: Amanda would not have been capable of screaming after the head shot). The first sighting of LT walking away from the house was around 7:05am.

This evidence establishes a time frame of 29 minutes minimum, and 55 minutes maximum for the home invasion and shooting to have happened.

Why 45 minutes, Davey?





Hey Jude said...

On Davey's Grieving

Maybe customs differ, but I found it upsetting that Davey posted on Instagram photos of Weston visiting his mother's grave, and that he caused Weston to kiss 'Evie Grace' on the headstone, and then also posted the video - to top things off, he also had Weston sit and pose in front of the vacant name space on the headstone.

If I was a grandparent to Weston, I'd think what type of sickness is that, to have my toddler grandson sitting in front of a vacant namespace on my daughter's grave, on which is engraved the slogan, 'Nothing is Wasted'? I would think that was disturbing, in the least, and I'd wonder for whom the vacant name space was reserved, as life is long, Davey is young, and could well marry again. 'Nothing is wasted' - there's space in that grave, and on the headstone, upon which he chooses to pose his son.

Okay, they maybe think more charitable and appropriate thoughts than I would if I were them, but I would find that photographic arrangement ominous and threatening, moreso if I had questions or doubts surrounding the circumstances of Amanda's death, which I would.

Perhaps Davey is just an insensitive dolt who takes unfortunate photographs, or maybe he enjoys tormenting and toying with people - he seems to regard Weston as a type of toy, or prop, for sure.


----

I don't know what I think about a father who makes his toddler son kiss a stone and pose for Instagram pictures on his murdered mother's grave - nothing positive. I've tried to see what might be positive in it, but I still think I might feel as if I wanted to kill Davey if Weston were my grandson.

Some people found that graveside episode cute and honouring of Amanda... I wish they would lend me their lenses so I could see what they are seeing. It has to be easier and more comfortable for those who know Davey, and/or believe in his ministry, to see things in that way and to dismiss what might be questionable about his actions there, and elsewhere.


CJ said...


RE: This evidence establishes a time frame of 29 minutes minimum, and 55 minutes maximum for the home invasion and shooting to have happened.

CORRECTION: This evidence establishes a time frame of 29 minutes minimum, and 65 minutes maximum for the home invasion and shooting to have happened.

Anonymous said...

I need to correct misinformation in one of my posts about this picture -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BA4__MWh4A_/?taken-by=daveyblackburn

"By the grace of God he had no idea what had happened to Amanda - I guess also by the grace of God that his heart could be stilled enough that he went skiing and looked so happy. He looks really good for someone who can't turn his mind off, who isn't sleeping and is having nightmares. This instagram pic was taken not long after after Amanda was murdered - and the guy in the center of this pic does not look like a guy who is suffering in any way, shape or form- from lack of sleep or grief or anything else."


From the comments, this pic wasn't taken when he was skiing- it looks like it was taken in the timeframe surrounding a 7 mile run ("7 easy miles"). I read on a different site that this was taken on a ski trip (snow in background) and I am sorry to have shared inaccurate facts.

I stand by everything else I wrote about his appearance and NOTsuffering - he appears to actually be celebrating !

Bobcat said...

Concerned:

The last 45 minuted fits with the time gap between DB leaving the house, and when the shots were heard. 6:00 - 6:45, or 6:10 - 6:55, take your pick.

45 is also divisible by three - the liars number...

Anonymous said...

45 minutes could refer to the time Davey was chatting away in the driveway while his wife was bleeding and suffering inside.

CJ said...

Bobcat said...
Concerned:

The last 45 minuted fits with the time gap between DB leaving the house, and when the shots were heard. 6:00 - 6:45, or 6:10 - 6:55, take your pick.

45 is also divisible by three - the liars number...

Bobcat,

45 minutes may also be the amount of time Davey was captured on camera at the gym.

Hey Jude said...

Most logical is he means the forty-five minutes during which he was absent and the murder is reported to have occurred. By the time he returned, and stayed outside talking to Kenneth, Amanda would have been unaware of having endured anything.

Anon @ 10.22 - I agree, it's damage control - he's been advised to address, or made aware, of his 'blindspots' - the things about which he has not expressed concern where it would be expected.

I wondered if he and Amanda's brother had words about some of those things the night before the family's Q&A sessions at Resonate. Davey referenced something had gone on between them, and the brother was not on the stage for the first session, was uncomfortable at the second and did not say much.

Anonymous said...

CJ, being "divisible by the liar's number" does not count. Please review Peter's posts on the liar's number before you say such nonsense, because others will pick up on it and start repeating it, then everyone here will look more stupid and clueless about SA then they already do. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

My bad ... that was bobcat that said that stupidity, not CJ.

Bobcat said...

HJ

"I wondered if he and Amanda's brother had words about some of those things the night before the family's Q&A sessions at Resonate. Davey referenced something had gone on between them, and the brother was not on the stage for the first session, was uncomfortable at the second and did not say much."

I haven't listened to the recording, but I looked at it, and James covers his mouth during much of the time DB speaks, and many times while Amber and Phil are speaking. He gives his mother a hard look at one point as well.


I predict much of DB's upcoming blogs will be to explain/chase/unpack his questionable words and actions. Like "I voted against it before I voted for it" or I was so full of grief I just focused on what I knew best to keep my mind occupied i.e. growing my church blah blah blah. Yep.

Anonymous said...

DB: "Your brokenness doesn't disqualify you."

True. Murder-for-hire is what disqualifies you.

CJ said...

When Davey walked back into his house from the gym Amanda was not a murder victim. She was alive and seriously injured.

Neither Larry nor Davey could have certain foreknowledge of her death. As unlikely as it seems in hindsight, gunshot victims do sometimes recover from grievous brain injuries. Amanda could have lived to tell about her experience, and borne witness against her attacker(s).

If this was a contract killing, the shooter almost bungled the job. If Davey shot Amanda himself, it was either without the intent to kill or he couldn't follow through.

Anonymous said...

That explains the "waiting game" in the hospital. If Amanda had ANY brain activity whatsoever, Davey would have LOST the game.

Nic said...

CJ said:
(Note: Amanda would not have been capable of screaming after the head shot).


Whoa, CJ. You better duck! :0) The last time I pointed to those two events being out of order, an Anonymous practically combusted.

Nic said...

Hey Jude @ 10:42,

IMO, your observation is spot on. Grieving is a very personal thing not meant to be shared, but somehow he makes it part of his branding. As you say, Weston is merely a prop with which to garner pity. Pity = money. Maybe the bank account isn't as padded as it once was.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 2:27

Re waiting game. Yes, DB referred to it being 24 hours. Twenty-four hours from the TOD (when they pulled the plug,) would have been when he called 911. I always interpreted his timestamp to mean he expected her to be dead upon his return "to shower", hence foreknowledge/she was shot before he left for the gym.

I also previously linked to silencers and what an expert said it would be like if one wasn't used in a house. It would be very loud and disorienting. I am confident a silencer was used. Nothing else explains why nobody else in close proximity to the Blackburn residence heard anything. Especially the security guy who carries a gun for a living, two doors down from where Amanda was shot THREE times.

Anonymous said...

Nic's comment about screaming:

Nic said...

SHL, my guess is that it is an assumption because DB was cleared (I think) the next day. LE cleared him on a single piece of evidence: LA Fitness's video of him being at the gym while they ASSumed the crime was being committed. I ASSume that assumption was substantiated by a single neighbour who lives away from the Blackburn residence (up the street from them) who reported hearing two gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream. Which, doesn't doesn't sound right, does it? Don't people scream before they're shot? It would be interesting to read her statement. If LE even asked for her to write one.

September 9, 2016 at 5:47 PM




The response:

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure someone might scream after being shot, for Pete's sake.

You don't know more than LE does, Nic. The idea that you've figured out when she was shot but LE is clueless is just ludicrous.

September 9, 2016 at 5:52 PM

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 3:13

I love how you identified with what I said. Thanks for bumping my post.

Nic said...

Anonymous @ 3:13 said:
The fact is Amanda could have screamed after the first or second.


Amanda had scratches on her left cheek. If a right-handed shooter was pointing a gun at her he/she could conceivably have her by the face with their left hand cross-wise, digging their fingers into her face just to make her hurt a little more.

Didn't DB say something about "no matter how much it hurt". I bet Amanda hurt a lot that day. In her heart, on her body and in it. jmo

Prayers for Amanda.

Anonymous said...

Nic, the scratches on the face and the tooth knocked out have always bothered me as well as the execution style shooting. There was a pastor in my hometown who stabbed his wife to death but then staged a robbery. I knew immediately that it was him. Stabbing is personal. Execution style is personal. Scratches and teeth knocked out are personal. The police reasoning that the thugs just wanted more money and they saw a crime of opportunity (after sitting in the neighbors house drinking beer and wine) and so they walked over to the Blackburns after seeing the punk husband walk out and leave the door open. It just doesn't makes sense. The petite young pregnant woman posed a threat to them getting a laptop and a few hundred bucks so they knocked her teeth out, scratched her face shot her twice and finished it off execution style. It just makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

The crime as reported makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense if DB set it up.

It's a masterpiece (NOT!!!)

The damn delusion that he is smarter than everyone else is the flaw.

Bobcat said...

5:36 AM - the neighbors alarm system was disabled

The CI later stated that Diano, Jalen & Larry stole TVs & laptop and loaded the items into the Sebring.

6:00 - 6:01 AM The dark SUV drives in and leaves.

6:10 DB leaves for gym.

The CI stated that they wanted more money. Larry and Jalen walked from 2830 Sunnyfield to 2812 Sunnyfield and enter the home through the unlocked front door. Diano waited at the Sebring in the driveway of 2830.

The CI stated that Jalen exited 2812 Sunnyfield, walked back to the Sebring parked at 2830, and told Diano that there was a woman inside and Larry busted her in the mouth with his gun. Diano and Jalen discussed leaving, but then Larry walked to the car and threw a couple of cards in the car.

At some point between 6:11 and 6:25 AM, Amanda is alone (except for Weston) and has been busted in the mouth. She doesn't scream or call 911?

6:25 Diano & Jalen leave to drive to ATMs.

6:25 - 6:45 or 6:55 Larry hangs out with Amanda in her home for 20-30 minutes, and completes two phone calls to Diano & Jalen before he shoots Amanda for charging at him (even though she could have called 911 or ran out of the house earlier).


The more I read about the APC and the timeline, the more I believe that LE is definitely investigating DB. They know things don't add up. Amanda was executed, and after they put the fall guys away, they are going after Davey.

Nic said...
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Nic said...

Bobcat, except that the phone records don't jive with the CI's timeline.

Do you know what would confirm/deny/fill in the blanks is the neighbour's video surveillance LE took from 2018. That video surveillance/house is literally between Blackburn's and the witness who supposedly heard the two gunshots and what sounded like a woman scream. It will be interesting what activity it caught on the street at 5:36, if any. If none, then you know what? The activity had to be from the "inside", i.e., the missing link to the gang. That means one of two people (or both).

jmo

Nic said...

CJ said...
Bingo3 said...

His stories will not match his stories.

************

From Davey's Blog:
"To be frank, unless you've walked in to find your best friend lying on your living room floor, struggling to take every breath, blood smeared all around her...

Whose best friend would he be talking about? Who is her? Oh yeah, right, Amanda didn't have a single enemy. Not one. It's a conundrum.

__________

From Davey's Blog (Long Bio):
"On November 10th, 2015 Davey came home from the gym to find his wife murdered in a home invasion."
___________


That's why he came home (to find his wife murdered in a home invasion... how could he know?) But that's not what he found. Instead he found Amanda (in order of priority,) struggling to take every breath, blood smeared all around her.

That's when he felt out of control, things were "bad" and he prayed for a miracle.

It's a good thing LE had enough personnel to dispatch to two houses on the street at the same time that day. Could you imagine how overwhelmed they felt? It's amazing they got there when they did.
___________

Yes, CJ/Bingo, the story keeps changing.

First he walks in to find your best friend....

Then, he came home from the gym to find

I guess we could sum it up by what he said another time: he was "away".

jmo

Anonymous said...

Nic, there are so many conflicting stories.

First it was a home invasion.
Then a few things were taken.
Sources say Amanda was definitely sexually abused and they have DNA evidence, but none of the thugs have been charged with a sexual offense against Amanda.
Davey's language reveals sexual abuse.
Monday morning was when Davey "kissed Amanda goodbye".
They were at a family dinner Monday evening.
Kenneth Wagner says it happened "last night".
and so on...

If LE isn't already quietly building their case against Davey, I would be very surprised. I am willing to wait instead of trying to figure everything out with far less information than LE has.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html?m=1

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Leopard said...

Davey wears pajama pants with bunnies on them. When he sat down with the Lord on the couch, do you think he had changed out of the bunny pants or do you think it was just a casual talk?
Do you think he stopped the talk with the Lord early to change out of his bunny pants and into his nuthuggers for the gym? You would think he would have had to. That could shave an extra 5 min. off the couch time.
Bobcat please put that into your timeline if you haven't already.

Giant Panda said...

Leopard, Great point about Davey needing time to change out of his bunny pants. Do you think he could have changed into the nuthuggers when he was already at the gym. I know when I go to the gym oftentimes I go in my pajamas, so I don't have time to talk myself out of it. But that's just conjecture--he may well have changed out of the bunny pants. Just in case he did, Bobcat should put it in her timeline.

Howling Monkey said...

Giant Panda and Leopard, Great thinking as usual, but we haven't factored in whether his routine at the gym may have begun with a swim in which case, he most likely worse the bunny pants to the gym to change into his swimsuit in the gym locker room. Maybe he even left EARLIER to do allow for time to change in the pool locker room. Bobcat, you may need to adjust your timeline quite a bit to allow for this possibility. Thanks for all your tireless work.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat said...
Concerned:

The last 45 minuted fits with the time gap between DB leaving the house, and when the shots were heard. 6:00 - 6:45, or 6:10 - 6:55, take your pick.

45 is also divisible by three - the liars number...

September 27, 2016 at 10:53 AM





Uhhhhh, what is that supposed to mean? Lololol.

Please, Bobcat, tell us what Statement Analysis says about numbers divisible by 3. Go ahead. Tell us.

Anonymous said...

http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/what-happens-to-you-when-you-die-week-5-making-the-most-of-the-mist/

Talking about Monday night:
16:05 "And that night we went to bed, and, she was watching, dumb finds on Instagram, like, laughing hysteric, I’ve never heard, like jus, gut laughing, you know? And, and I was like, would you, I’m trying to go to bed, I’m, would you stop laughing? You know? Like I’m trying to sleep, I’m trying to read so I can fall asleep, and she’s like “hahaha” like I’ve never seen her more carefree and happy, but listen, I was annoyed with it. Know why? I didn’t know that I only had 3694 days. I thought I had another day…to appreciate the annoying things."

try means attempt but fail

Davey was not going to bed
Was not sleeping
Was not reading

He was annoyed because the execution was moved up a day?

Just before the above quote, DB drops all of his pronouns telling about what he did on Monday after leaving the house. The he takes a long pause and puts his finger to his mouth. In ALL of his sermon videos I have seen, this is the ONLY time he has made this gesture.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ko7Hd6Y6tS0/V9dSrZtG6PI/AAAAAAAAAiQ/OYMEVrSkUYov92PKANGBcI4ZfhADInuKACLcB/s1600/lies.jpg

Giant Panda said...

Bobcat, That actually is an interesting observation.

Do you think he possibly killed her because she was annoying him by laughing at instagram stuff on her phone and being in such a good mood while he was trying to read to go to sleep? She was found dead in her nightgown, with her phone directly next to the bed on the floor.

Giant Panda said...

It would explain the direction of attack where she was shot while running down the stairs to get away from the assailant if Davey chased her from the bedroom.

He may have punched her in the mouth when she refused to stop laughing...if you look at what he says he told her to stop and her response was "Hahaha"...she kept laughing.

Giant Panda said...

If her mouth was open in a laugh, it could explain how the punch knocked out her lower front tooth.

Giant Panda said...

Davey said

16:05 "And that night we went to bed, and, she was watching, dumb finds on Instagram, like, laughing hysteric, I’ve never heard, like jus, gut laughing, you know? And, and I was like, would you, I’m trying to go to bed, I’m, would you stop laughing? You know? Like I’m trying to sleep, I’m trying to read so I can fall asleep, and she’s like “hahaha” like I’ve never seen her more carefree and happy, but listen, I was annoyed with it. Know why? I didn’t know that I only had 3694 days. I thought I had another day…to appreciate the annoying things."

He's lying about something here though, and I can't put my finger on it. He's lying about what she was laughing at. It was something on her phone. But it was something she was "watching". He starts to say that but then changes it to "dumb finds on instagram". Could she have been watching one of his sermons and laughing at something about it in a good-natured way, just something she found amusing and he punched her in the mouth, she runs from him down the stairs, he shoots her. That would explain how he knows that Weston saw her for the last time when she put him to bed that night.

Anonymous said...

Jus like clockwork .

Here come the trolls, out to clog the board with ridIcule, satire, humor, misdirection, anything and everything to take focus away from the case. The comments throughout the day and into tonight must be hitting close to home for someone methinks.

If twelve or however many seasoned investigators told Peter that "nobody is this lucky" with respect to all of the coincidences surrounding Davey and Amanda that morning, then they have not ruled out Davey's involvement. They are quietly building a case, absolutely. IMPD would be the most incompetent ever if they just let this go without snagging the one who is the mastermind -- the weaver of the beautiful quilt which has some threads on the backside that are ugly but is beautiful when you turn it over -- the baker of the cake with thgredients some of which are bitter by themselves but which combine together to make a tasty confection.

The introduction to the Levi Lusko video was a real "oh shit" moment, when Davey said the Lord had used the video "to prepare his heart leading up to Amanda's death" - leading up to Amanda's unexpected random unplanned death - oh oh, no need to prepare my heart for something I didn't know was going to happen - "uh, I mean, the Lord has used it to comfort my heart in this process".... and then he thinks wow, I hope nobody noticed my slip of the tongue there. We DID notice - - you really should've re-recorded that video to your church flock.

Combine that video, all of the coincidences that morning, all of your changing stories about that morning - even without the lack of grief in your life and media appearances - it is obvious there is more to the story.

The 911 call is going to be huge. The dog coming out and greeting IMPD may factor in - where was Mel the whole time, the dog that Amanda said "literally never leaves my side?" The personal nature of the injuries and execution shot (one to the head) make it obvious that wasn't random, especially because things were left behind that burglars would usually take - like the flat panel tv, the credit cards that were scattered about ?

It's not over.


Anonymous said...

Next he'll start pausing and putting his finger to his mouth in all of his sermons.

Hey Jude said...


Talking about Monday night:
16:05 "And that night we went to bed, and, she was watching, dumb finds on Instagram, like, laughing hysteric, I’ve never heard, like jus, gut laughing, you know? And, and I was like, would you, I’m trying to go to bed, I’m, would you stop laughing? You know? Like I’m trying to sleep, I’m trying to read so I can fall asleep, and she’s like “hahaha” like I’ve never seen her more carefree and happy, but listen, I was annoyed with it. Know why? I didn’t know that I only had 3694 days. I thought I had another day…to appreciate the annoying things."

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They went to bed
He was trying to go to bed
He was trying to sleep
He was trying to read so he could fall asleep

That's out of sequence, methinks. Well, he was trying to go to bed but they already went to bed - he was trying to sleep before also trying to read - so he could fall asleep. Could be true if 'trying to go to bed' also means 'trying to go to sleep' to him, but pretty garbled, not explaining things very well.

Is he really sure he actually formulated the thought that he had another day to appreciate the annoying things? 'I thought I had another day' - he was really thinking that? He was in bed trying to go to bed reading a book whilst thinking he had another day to appreciate the annoying things about Amanda. Who appreciates annoying things - if they are annoying one day, they are likely to be just as annoying the next. It's a bit weird of a thing for him to claim he had been thinking - why would anyone think that? Like, just one more day to go - well, that's an unfortunate sounding thing for him to have said he was thinking. Maybe just awkward attempt at expressing himself and meant lots of other days ... to appreciate the annoying things...which sounds unlikely. I think he made all that up and it is not from experiential memory.


Giant Panda said...

Duh, that's not a trollish comment! That probably IS when he attacked her...for laughing in the bed! It explains the phone dropped right on the floor next to the bed and her assailant chasing her down the stairs and shooting her initially as she ran down the staircase. Everytime I say something insightful, you call it a troll comment!!!!

Imagrandma said...

Oh, I just hate to feel the tension and animosity here on this board. It's too much for me to take after having just recovered from a terrible case of shingles and just now risen from my bed to look again at this case, and to check for updates. My entire left side was covered with painful, stinging shingles causing me motor difficulty, so I was not able to even walk to the computer. I have been very concerned and hoping that those on the board would have made some progress. It seems all intelligent comments coming from Giant Panda as well as various anons have been disparaged. For the sake of an old woman trying to get back on board here and help with the case, please listen to Giant Panda and stop the aggressive conversational tactics towards one another. Let's call a truce for the sake of Amanda. Can we agree to that?

momto437 said...

Imagrandma, You don't have to worry. We'll keep things calm here on the board while you regain your mobility. So happy to have you back!

Hey Jude said...


I've tried to fix that for you, Davey, but it's still broken:


like
I've never heard
Like jus'
You know
I was like
You know
you know?
like, I'm trying
I'm trying
I' m trying
So
And she's like
Like I've never seen her so carefree and happy
But listen
I was annoyed with it
Know why?

---

Yeah, maybe: one way or another the show was going to be over the next day, and it sure as hell wasn't going to be Amanda's way? And if she really was 'carefree and happy' and laughing, which seems unlikely, in view of that hideous 'Worship as a Weapon' sermon/abuse, and the Levi Lusko preparation/abuse she'd been going through in order to be presented as a living sacrifice (till finally she died), then it wasn't at dumb finds on Instagram.





Mathematician said...

Bobcat, why won't you answer the question about the Liars Number as it applies to multiplication and division?

Anonymous said...

"Gut laughing" sounds like "gut-wrenching". Amanda may have have actually been crying gut-wrenching sobs about the video, and this angered him. Why was her phone left on the floor next to the bed? He's lying in a sociopathic way in the instagram laughing story to make what SHE was doing the opposite of what it was. Additinally he says "dumb finds"...could Amanda have accessed his email or or some other account through her phone which showed some type of porn Davey had looked up and she started crying and he attacked at that point? What was the dumb find? He says dumb finds on instagram, but he's lying...it wasnt on instagram. She accessed something through her own phone that was a "dumb find". Like "dumb luck"? Gays often join websites where they can locate the nearest gay person geographically. Maybe she joined the website, and Davey popped up as the nearest gay person?

Anonymous said...

Giant Pands, I can totally see Davey slapping and knocking out a tooth in frustration for Amanda's raucous laughter while he was "trying to go to sleep" (or was if trying to read and go to sleep?)

The scenario as you described it fits nicely - certainly your posts are not the ones to which I was referring as troll posts - it's others.

To everyone - Davey would know that Monday night was the last time Weston saw Amanda if he indeed did incapacitate her that night and she was on the floor in the living room downstairs already when he left for the gym- but would Amanda have been able to live through the night if he shot her in Monday night ?

Anonymous said...

She may have joined the gay website to investigate Davey. She would have had her suspicions as he is blatantly gay. Maybe when she and Amber "got lost" they were really visiting a private investigator?
Something happened regarding her phone. He tells us...she "found" something. She may have even stated that sge felt like sge had been punched in the "gut" by whatever she found and that is how he is getting the phrase "gut laughing@.
And yes she could have lived through the night...she lived through the whole next day...

Anonymous said...

Maybe a private investigator emailed her video of Davey caught cheating. Maybe a PI also sent Amber the church surveillance video?

Me2l said...

Inanity, thy name is SA Commenter.
anon @11:29 said....
The 911 call is going to be huge.

Going to be huge? What do you think this is.....a TV show, where the next scene will reveal ......what ....some big surprise ending? And the case will be solved.
The 911 call--you do realize, don't you, that investigators have already listened, analyzed, and investigated its content? It's not a show for us, whereby the ending will be revealed in dramatic fashion.

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imagrandma said...
Oh, I just hate to feel the tension and animosity here on this board. It's too much for me to take after having just recovered from a terrible case of shingles and just now risen from my bed to look again at this case, and to check for updates. My entire left side was covered with painful, stinging shingles causing me motor difficulty, so I was not able to even walk to the computer. I have been very concerned and hoping that those on the board would have made some progress. It seems all intelligent comments coming from Giant Panda as well as various anons have been disparaged. For the sake of an old woman trying to get back on board here and help with the case, please listen to Giant Panda and stop the aggressive conversational tactics towards one another. Let's call a truce for the sake of Amanda. Can we agree to that?
September 27, 2016 at 11:41 PM

The Hydra never stops. It's comical and especially so that anyone would believe her obvious drivel. C'mon people! Your skills as analysts are at risk here.
This fake once claimed to be 104 years old, then, at the same time, spoke of seeing her parents who, logically, would have to be around 120 years old.
Where are your SA skills, people? Divisible by three, or not, this fake is the troll we all know. THINK.

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And yes she could have lived through the night...she lived through the whole next day...
September 28, 2016 at 12:45 AM

The logic truly is underwhelming here.
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investigator emailed her video of Davey caught cheating. Maybe a PI also sent Amber the church surveillance video?
September 28, 2016 at 1:01 AM

Riiiight. Amanda had a PI.
You seem to forget many things here, but the most glaring is their lack of funds. Do you suppose a PI was budgeted?




Anonymous said...

Very interesting how Davey knew it was going to be Amanda's last day.

I recently divorced my husband and I had thoughts the entire month before--this is the last time I will be at his family reunion, this will be the last time we eat as this restaurant, this will be the last time...

When you know something is coming, this is how one thinks. When you have a secret and are trying to hide it....

Davey knew she was going to die. Her laughter in finding something she wasn't supposed to is just eerie--and yes, he may have punched her and knocked out her tooth.

I do believe he shot her.

And I do believe he is gay and has a micro penis--there is nothing that ever shows in his pants...



Hey Jude said...

Me21

' It's not a show for us, whereby the ending will be revealed in dramatic fashion.'

I agree, at least the intended audience for Davey's show is not 'us', it is anyone who will believe him, join his church, and support it and him financially. There's little question that Amanda's murder has been played out like a show from before the beginning, with Davey casting himself as the central character. The Davey Show has been broadcast week by week by Davey, but not 'for us'. Davey now has a tragic 'My Story', previous to which he had to live the more humble lifestyle of a struggling pastor who did not have 'A Story' to tell and to sell. A Tragic Story is a helpful ingredient in the formula for slingshotting mega ministry, it would seem. - he was very impressed by Levi's Story and how his churches expanded thereafter. It is unfortunate for Levi Lusko that the tragic loss of his little girl has been such an inspiration to Davey Blackburn - I can't see how, in the long term, it will turn out to be a welcome association.

Bingo3 said...

Resonate working on the album.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKT3-P_hV92_FbCAVdAQI9OfBsW2rMQCPx3noo0/

I guess they are rushing to get an album out in time for the book promotion. Nothing like wrapping up your grieving, pushing out an album and writing a book in time for the 1st anniversary of beautiful Amanda's death. DB announced a few weeks ago that they will be introducing the new album songs on the anniversary of her death. When Davey wrote The Best is Yet to Come and Nothing is Wasted in his statement on the day she died, he sure wasn't kidding, was he? Fastest wrap-up of grieving in the history of the world!

Bingo3 said...

From Anon:
" the one who is the mastermind -- the weaver of the beautiful quilt which has some threads on the backside that are ugly but is beautiful when you turn it over -- the baker of the cake with the ingredients some of which are bitter by themselves but which combine together to make a tasty confection."

Justification at it's finest. The bloody Amanda and the last 45 minutes were hard but look we got us a beautiful masterpiece and we are saving the world! I am confused tho, did she give her life so Weston could have his? Or did she die so she could breath life into the dead bones at FNL church? OR did she die to #ForIndy. Or did she die so that 100,000's of thousands could be saved across the world thanks to all those internets DB keeps mentioning. Or did she die so Davey could become a rich and powerful pastor like his mentors Perry Noble, Levi Lusko and Steven Furtick.? He worships these guys. Where do you think the unoriginal The Best is Yet to Come came from? Perry Noble. Where do think the unoriginal Nothing is Wasted came from? Steven F. Where do you think Run Toward the Roar came from? Levi Lusko. DB wants to be one of these guys but he doesn't even have an original idea. He got desperate for the fame and fortune. He had a wife who probably didn't worship his every move. She got in the way. After death, she MADE the way for his "overnight success and wealth". "She was in a posture of surrender"

CJ said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UG7r_eZpqY
(Published Mar. 18, 2012)

6:30 “as I was planning to go and plant the church here in Indianapolis I would go and ask a couple of my friends or ask people that I know, or ask people to be part of this, and I can’t tell you how many times I heard, heard this statement. It was, um, “Davey, I would love to go to Indianapolis with you and, and plant this church. And I would, if I was single.”

And, that statement kind of caught me off guard at first and I started thinking about it and I was like, that doesn’t make sense, because the Bible talks about, in marriage, um, the two become one. And so if you, especially the guy, if I’m talking, if I’m going to talk to the guys for just a second, I know there’s some girls in there, too, and um it’s very important for you guys in ministry to choose a spouse that is fully supportive of you as well, but I want to especially target the guys right now.

Your wife is either going to squelch your ministry or slingshot your ministry, into, into places of influence that you never thought possible. It’s gonna do one of two things, though, your relationship with your wife. And I’ve seen wives, um who, who have really squelched people’s ministry because they wanted to be close to home, and close to family all the time, and they were really uh needy and manipulative, and not on board with the ministry that God, the calling that God has placed on that family, and on the head of that household, the husband, on his life. And I’ve seen that, I’ve seen it squelch it. And I’ve seen that husband, that man, not be able to reach the people and have the effectiveness that he should have because of that wife.

I’ve also seen and experienced a wife who is fully on board, fully supportive, um, and and that, and my wife particularly, she has just slingshotted me um into, into areas of ministry and influence that I never thought I could have, um, and we reach more people and are more effective for the kingdom together than we ever would have been by ourselves, because she’s fully supportive, um and she’s fully behind the calling that God has place on our life. Um, I don’t know of any other wife that would pick up across the country and move and [snaps fingers], just like that when the Lord has called us to go and move and reach a city that we were unfamiliar with when we left everything behind us. But it’s because, my wife is fully onboard.

And so I think one of the things we don’t talk about a whole lot is that, how much that spouse factor in your relationship can really inhibit or it can really excel your ministry and your influence, and the amount of people that you’re going to be able to reach. So choose, that spouse, I can’t, I can’t stress this enough. Choose, your spouse, carefully. If there’s red flags going on right now, you need to take those red flags into consideration. If your, if your girlfriend or fiancé or whatever, your future spouse right now, the person that you’re dating, has any inkling of a problem, with the fact that you have the highest calling in the world possible on your life, and that it’s gonna’ be a high demand on your life to sacrifice, then you need to end the relationship [snaps fingers] right now because you won’t be effective in ministry. I don’t care how beautiful she is, dudes, I don’t care how cute he is, girls, I don’t care. That needs, that needs to be um a high priority in your life.

CJ said...

daveyblackburn @daveyblackburn 18 Jan 2014
Few things will destroy a life, a family, a nation more than this combination: a Passive Man with a Manipulative Woman.

Anonymous said...

"If your, if your girlfriend or fiancé or whatever, your future spouse right now, the person that you’re dating, has any inkling of a problem, with the fact that you have the highest calling in the world possible on your life, and that it’s gonna’ be a high demand on your life to sacrifice, then you need to end the relationship [snaps fingers] right now because you won’t be effective in ministry."

Anonymous said...

He seems to like dressing like a girl...maybe he is wearing "tucking" underwear.

CJ said...

I’ve also seen and experienced a wife who is fully on board, fully supportive, um, and and that, and my wife particularly, she has just slingshotted me um into, into areas of ministry and influence that I never thought I could have, um, and we reach more people and are more effective for the kingdom together than we ever would have been by ourselves, because she’s fully supportive, um and she’s fully behind the calling that God has place on our life.

*****
In relating his own experience of being slingshotted, DB first tells us of "a wife" who is "fully on board, fully supportive." This is someone from his past (verb tenses "seen," "experienced.")

By contrast: "my wife particularly" [Amanda]
she has JUST slingshotted me ... ["just" minimizes, "slingshotted" is past tense]
"into areas of ministry and influence that I never thought I could have" {this is honest acknowledgment. Amanda is the visionary. She is the one with the influence].

"...we reach more people and are more effective for the kingdom together than we ever would have been by ourselves" [DB retreats into "we." Contrast with "I" am more effective for the kingdom ... than "I" would have ever been by myself." It is for Amanda to say whether her union with Davey makes her more effective for the kingdom than she would be alone, from Davey this is subtle disparagement.]

"...because she’s fully supportive, um and she’s fully behind the calling that God has place on our life.

The slingshot analogy is a catch-22 for Davey. Envision one person slingshotting an other into _______ (ministry, fame, influence, the air, you choose. : ) Who is manipulating the action? Who is active? Who is passive?

To give credit to Amanda for slingshotting him makes her the active one. She is manipulating the slingshot. She is gauging the trajectory. She is picking the target. She is in charge.

At the end of the paragraph Davey retreats [again] from his honest acknowledgement of Amanda. "because" = reason why. Here's what Davey MEANS when he talks about slingshotting: Amanda is FULLY supportive ... FULLY behind.

... Except [the truth will out]: what is Amanda behind? Not Davey, but "our" calling. Amanda had her own share of their calling (which may have been higher than Davey's own). In addition, she was responsible for slingshotting Davey to higher levels of influence and areas of ministry than he could get to on his own. AND responsible for fully supporting him.

It was a big job.







Nic said...

Amanda wouldn't have been "watching" Instagram. She would have been looking at "dumb finds". Instagram is photo sharing, not video.

Anonymous said...

So how do you explain all the videos people post on instagram if there are no videos, lol?

Anonymous said...

Nic, that blog was also written before Amanda had Weston. She decided she wanted a normal, simple things kind of life. Davey not so much! It is Go Big or Go Home for Davey boy.

Anonymous said...

With two children and Amanda having less time to refinish furniture and help with ministry, Davey would have had to get a day JOB.

Anonymous said...

Nic said...

Amanda wouldn't have been "watching" Instagram. She would have been looking at "dumb finds". Instagram is photo sharing, not video.


September 28, 2016 at 5:14 PM



Incorrect.

Both Amanda and Davey have videos on their Instagram profiles that some of us have discussed many times. It's been more than three years since Instagram added the video option. Ask one of the 150 million people who actually use it.

https://help.instagram.com/442610612501386

Anonymous said...

He was annoyed because she was looking at "dumb" finds.

Stupid stuff. Annoyed that stupid things entertained her because she was not well-read.

Anonymous said...

Me2l,

You're not Meg.
You're not Davey's mom.
You're not Uncle Eddy.
but you are most definitely related.

I know.

I'm sorry your judgmental parents were verbally abusive to you.
Davey described his home the same way. I hope the cycle will be broken with Weston.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, I dont think Me2l is related to Davey, but I DO think he is the most brilliant we have on this board. It's unbelievable his level-headed insight into these cases. I do hope he shares more soon, although Im sure he's very busy with all his case loads.

Anonymous said...

I agree anon. Me2l is one of our most upstanding and effective detectives here. Not only does he make incredible progress on these cases but he keeps all the other lunatics from derailing the conversation. One has to tip one's hat to him when considering the awesome responsibility he has here.

Anonymous said...

I agree. Me2l is unquestionably one of the best in the field of statement analysis.

Me2l said...

Bobcat said...
Me2l,

You're not Meg.
You're not Davey's mom.
You're not Uncle Eddy.
but you are most definitely related.

I know.

I'm sorry your judgmental parents were verbally abusive to you.
Davey described his home the same way. I hope the cycle will be broken with Weston.


I always wonder why people who are attempting to showcase their skills as analysts, specifically of SA, would subject themselves to engaging in erroneous theories and being so easily and thoroughly discredited. It calls into question cognitive skills, because an intelligent person would understand that the likelihood of Davey involving himself here is so remote as to be nonexistent. There is a disconnect from reality, driven by a loss of objectivity and perspective. When nearly 24/7 is devoted to a message board, that board becomes one's life, thus the disconnect. Bobcat, you work so diligently at your SA, but in one fell swoop, you illustrate your lack of even the most basic SA ability, and certainly, you are far from mastery. Dropped pronouns and numbers divisible by three be damned--back to square one.

I am not Davey. I'm sure Peter, who can, if he wants, determine through IP addresses much about this blog's participants, would be disappointed in his .... uh ..... "star" student's lack of progress.

Although (or because) you've committed the ultimate faux pas on your way to giant SA fail, by committing yourself to something so easily and readily disproven, I will continue to comment when you failed analysts lose your way. This will give you ample opportunity to analyze and investigate me. Good luck and keep trying. I'll even give you a big clue to help you along your way--I am female. It helps if you can at least get that much right. Try not to be pulled in by The Hydra. It gives the appearance you may be one of its heads.


September 29, 2016 at 12:22 AM

Bobcat said...

Anon @ 12:53,

Funny you should mention case loads.

Me2l,

I know you're not Davey either.

And I did not figure out who you are by using SA...unless you add in a small amount bit of leakage. SA or not, I know who you are.

You may be the most accredited in your profession here, but you are still an abusive tyrant.

Me2l said...

You have used that term before--"abusive tyrant." I'm sure you won't, but I'd like you to provide some examples of that. As far as I can see, you become extremely offended because, not only do I disagree with you, but I do it convincingly. Now, really, coming back with, "it's not because of differences of opinion, blah, blah, blah," offer up a few examples in context. After all, you appear to be oblivious to the insults and attacks lobbed my way by others nearly always initiating a conflict with me or the multiple times others make insulting remarks about me, when I'm not even around. Later, upon checking the discussion, I will find I've been a topic of conversation in a disparaging way. That's weird behavior. Analyze that.

If I weren't reasonable, I'd think you feel inferior and intimidated, because maybe what I've said hits "too close to home" (as you "analysts" like to conclude when someone calls you out on one of your outrageous and nonsensical theories). After all, you have said in the past you're often the "most intelligent person in the room." Well, while I'm not trying to insult you, I'd say you're not here in this room. Your faulty SA .... or whatever process you use ....to "analyze" me is a good example.

So......examples please.

Bingo3 said...

"Before I move on, let me say this wasn't a bad thing. It wasn’t unhealthy for me not to focus on what happened to her."

How many negatives does it take to make a positive?

Me2l said...

I'm not on board with Davey's projected involvement; however, his self absorbed attitude is incredibly offensive and contributes to the conclusions of people that he is "guilty." Everything about The Story (offensive in and of itself) ultimately is how it affects him. God's "blessings."

That is disgusting.

Bobcat said...

There's a reason I stay as far away from lawyers as possible, Me2l.

You are an ambulance chaser and an expert liar.

My only question is - does Davey and his family know you are here?

You both think you can lie your way out of anything.

Bingo3 said...

Exactly! It is ALL about him!! He couldn't even talk about the last minutes of HER life without it being about HIM. You would expect empathy about what she experienced but instead it is poor me, people don't think I grieve enough. Poor me, I have to process how to grieve (huh?) poor me, I lost sleep for a couple of weeks. Poor me,I had to walk into a gruesome sight that gave me bad flashbacks. Not one ounce of thought about Amanda. He can't even pretend and he is too dense/narcissistic to realize how bad he sounds even to people who don't even think he is guilty. (not me, I do think he was involved) But even people like you Me2l, that don't think he was involved still think his behavior is terrible! I'll say it again, he should have just dropped out of sight for a while! He just couldn't do it. He had to chase that fame.

Bobcat said...

Me2l,

You will NEVER be on board with Davey's projected involvement.

If there were photos and a paper trail of him involved, you would still make an argument against it. He's family and you want to keep him out of prison. We get it.

Your linguistic power of persuasion is impressive (and revealing), but not effective on everyone.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

You're right, Bobcat. Based upon what I've seen here, it's not convincing.

When I found this blog, I did so hoping for some insight. Although Peter's blog writings and analyses are excellent and thought provoking, the commenters present a distinctly different impression, with wild, outlandish theories and a tendency to misuse and mis-apply SA, leaving a reader wondering what the actual hell! Are these people serious? I've often thought and said the casual reader, seeking information, would find it quite easy to discount SA, if only reading comments and thinking that's what statement analysis is. How are people reading what Peter writes and yet, engaging in the trash that often defines the comments. Does no one learn anything at all?

So, no, neither you, with your lack of perspective/objective SA, nor any other commenter who is prone to incoherent ramblings have done anything to convince me, or indeed, anyone with an ounce of logic, of Davey's involvement. The irony of this is that when I first learned of the murder and its circumstances, I immediately thought, "the hubby did it." After reading here for months, I now have serious doubts. No commenter here has made their case. In fact, they've gone so far off course, they've done the opposite.



Anonymous said...

Bobcat weren't you recently insisting Me21 is Meg? Now you're saying she's not Meg. Which is it?

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Bobcat said...
There's a reason I stay as far away from lawyers as possible, Me2l.

You are an ambulance chaser and an expert liar.

My only question is - does Davey and his family know you are here?

You both think you can lie your way out of anything.
September 29, 2016 at 8:52 AM



HAHAHA! is this meant to be taken seriously? You sound like HISG/Alexandra/etc., and I've always discounted those suggestions (accusations?) about you, because, you see, I do apply logic; however, it's hard to ignore your revealing use of phrase.

Good grief. Get a grip and try to realize you're discrediting yourself. It's the reason I've lost all respect for you and your ability .... because, you see, I know how mistaken you are about me.

Me2l said...

Yes, bingo, he leaves a deplorable impression of himself.

Me2l said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Bobcat weren't you recently insisting Me21 is Meg? Now you're saying she's not Meg. Which is it?



Bobcat is sounding very similar to the off-the-wall Alexandra/et.al. I'm now beginning to wonder.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat I'm with you regarding Me21. Davey is their main concern. Me21 trys to give you hell in order to discourage you. Your blog would be a very useful tool for any defense attorney. Maybe Me21 is very much aware of that. Sure she/he will deny it, but the protest is too strong.

P.S. I noticed Me21 is hanging around the blog today. Keep up the good work Bobcat, I think you hit a nerve.

Me2l said...

Good morning, anon HJ.

Yes, I'm in bed not feeling my best today, so I'm home from work, apparently upsetting Bobcat, judging from her rather reactive and dramatic responses. I guess I must be hitting a nerve.

Looks like I'll be a thorn in your sides today. (wink, wink)

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, YES!! Great job on your timeline, etc. I applaud your passion to see Justice for beautiful Amanda! Her story will be told one day and it won't be hidden behind a master manipulator that is DB. Keep up the amazing work!

Bobcat said...

Me2l,

Assume - you have the credentials to prosecute in any appropriate jurisdiction.
Assume - the Byars and Blackburns have loads of money.
Assume - you are not related to Davey.

If the Byars family came to you and asked you to represent them in a wrongful death lawsuit against Davey, would you take the case?

Me2l said...

BUT, you're ASSUMING.

I'm not an attorney, so there's no danger of being asked to represent anyone.

How can such a "crack" (pot) analyst be so deceived? Or are you intentionally deceptive?

You remind me of a psychic: you may hit it lucky once out of 20,000 attempts, but it's like a shot in the dark. A correct guess now and then is not persuasive.

Me2l said...

Sorry, Bobcat. I just noticed 20,000 is not divisible by 3. Let's use 21,000, instead, just to assuage your sensibilities....affirmation and stuff.

Anonymous said...

M32I -
The question is IF you WERE an attorney, had credentials to prosecute in any jurisdiction, would rake in loads of money from representing someone (Byars fam or anyone else) in a case against Davey Blackburn and weren't related to him - would you take the case?

It's just smoke and mirrors when you're saying I'm not an attorney - that was not the question. The question is IF you were an attorney - not assuming you are one. Talking about 21,000 being divisible by 3 = avoiding the question, not so deftly either.

I think you are either related to Davey or else are a very close friend, mentor, associate, ex college roommate, roommate, preparer of the green room at resonate. . .

I would take the case in a heartbeat IF I was an attorney and someone came to me with loads of money and questions. I would probably do it pro bono to see justice served and the truth emerge. But I'm not related to Davey and have no interest in seeing him get through this scot free.

Answer the question - with no misdirection? WOULD YOU take the case?

Anonymous said...

And while you state that "a correct guess now and again is not persuasive" - I think there have been many correct guesses, theories which are either the truth or extremely close to it - too close for comfort. Surely with the number of people reading here, there is a very strong chance there are connections to law enforcement among the readers. Certainly it is possible that the defense for those in custody can use the information here and in bobcats blog for good.

Davey, while you are away golfing in South Carolina with Gavin and Amanda's brother, enjoy your freedom. I'm just sorry we won't get to see a video of Weston swinging a little golf club- like when we get to see him in a little muscle shirt set up for doing renegade rows with 1 lb dumbbells or hanging from the rings - or kissing evie grace's name on the headstone at the cemetery - along with the pic of him laying flowers on the grave, the pic in which you couldn't even be bothered to include Amanda's whole name.

Shameless you are.

Anonymous said...

What's your favorite fizzy drink? Mine is Diet Pepsi, or Diet Mountain Dew if I'm in need of a caffeine boost.

Me2l said...

Bobcat, you aggressively demand an answer from me to a hypothetical question which bears more resemblance to child play than to anything else, yet, you still have not answered me from an earlier post. (Typical)

Get hold of yourself.

Here's my answer: I am not an attorney; therefore, I don't know what I'd do if I WERE an attorney. If I were an attorney, there no doubt would be things that come into play that I'm not aware of as a lay person.

You demand to hear what you want to hear. Your foot stomping and fantasy role playing are quite juvenile, and the question you pose is illogical, but, with no more evidence than has been presented by you hysterical types, I can't see a positive outcome for taking a case such as you describe. The money would be the sole reason for taking it on. Assuming I would still get paid in the probable event of losing the case, I would gain a fortune, so yeah, my greed would encourage me to grab the money and run.

You do realize, don't you, that attorneys routinely take cases where they know the guilt of their client? It's really not like on TV.

My tentative answer to your (yet again) fantasy scenario is: yes, I would take the case for the money, knowing I would lose in a court of law.

No, I would not take the case if a large sum of money would not come my way, regardless of outcome, based upon evidence presented in this blog. That's a sure loss. You people have not built a good case.

For money, yes. For a successful court case outcome, absolutely not. The evidence is lacking.

Now, stop heaving as a petulant child.

Me2l said...

anon HJ said...
And while you state that "a correct guess now and again is not persuasive" - I think there have been many correct guesses, theories which are either the truth or extremely close to it - too close for comfort. Surely with the number of people reading here, there is a very strong chance there are connections to law enforcement among the readers. Certainly it is possible that the defense for those in custody can use the information here and in bobcats blog for good.



Of course you "think" there have been a number of good guesses. Lol. My point exactly. This comment section serves as a fiction-writing exercise for people who have lost all perspective.

BTW, how do you know the number of people reading here? You assume much. there may be a large number, but very few of that number comment. This section is comprised of a ton of anons who are one person, so participation is represented by a very few.

A good analyst would recognize that.

Concerned said...

Me2l
You are not having a conversation with Bobcat.
I bet you're correct in pegging this commenter as HISG.
If I'm not mistaken, when Bobcat logs in, the name shows in blue...like yours.


Bingo3
Excellent comments!

Anonymous said...

Fizzy drinks sure got a response.

A layperson with a law degree?

Wrong again said...

You are wrong, Concerned. Bobcat frequently comments while not logged in and has never complained that someone else is using her name. For instance, on her posts about the people who know Davey from high school she claims to have spoken to on Facebook, she was not logged in, but acknowledges it was her.

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CJ said...

Me2l,

I'm eavesdropping ...

RE: "The irony of this is that when I first learned of the murder and its circumstances, I immediately thought, "the hubby did it."
If you don't mind my asking, what was it that led you to that early conclusion?

RE: "When I found this blog, I did so hoping for some insight."
Did you find this blog in conjunction with the Blackburn case? What insight were you in search of?

Anonymous said...

Me21, Bobcat has rattled your cage. ROTFLMAO!!!!
Glad to see you are feeling so much better and that you are hanging around a long time today. But, you should look in the mirror and repeat all the accusations, thrown at Bobcat and others, to yourself. You are your own worse enemy. Cheers and Smiles :) :) :) !!

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

CJ said...
Me2l,

I'm eavesdropping ...

RE: "The irony of this is that when I first learned of the murder and its circumstances, I immediately thought, "the hubby did it."
If you don't mind my asking, what was it that led you to that early conclusion?

RE: "When I found this blog, I did so hoping for some insight."
Did you find this blog in conjunction with the Blackburn case? What insight were you in search of?
September 29, 2016 at 2:44

CJ, as with many people, I read the headlines regarding the murder of a pastor's wife in Indiana--a very far distance from me in miles, yet, having a background of a similar type denomination/religion, it piques my interest when these things happen with pastors, and there are a few recent cases where the pastor-husband was found guilty.

I lumped the Blackburn case in with those, but the single most curious thing to me was the connection, however subtle, far-removed, or tenuous, through FB of Davey and any one of the thugs. I still think that's highly incriminating -- much more so than all the other coincidental pieces of so-called evidence, including his demeanor since the murder. I wonder if the thug/FB connection has been fully investigated, but nothing appeared to develop with that.

When I searched the Internet for anything relating to the murder, this blog popped up. I read Peter's writings and analysis, finding them quite insightful, but a mystery to me as far as how some of it came to be accepted as solid technique in analysis....so, I continued to read. Soon, however, the comments section seemed to become full of more and more outlandish scenarios...ridiculously so, with people stretching to twist "evidence" to fit their favorite theory. Many of the more reasonable commenters who offered plausible insight and theories, letting the words and statements speak for themselves left--at least, discontinued posting, leaving us with the role-players who are prone to projection.

As for searching forvinsight, at that point, I was fairly certain DB was involved and more evidence would be connected to him. I was hoping to find additional news on that. Three people were arrested, and nothing further has developed, at least openly , with DB, and the surreal world of misapplied SA here has replaced valid evidence discovery and intelligent discussion.

Me2l said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Me21, Bobcat has rattled your cage. ROTFLMAO!!!!
Glad to see you are feeling so much better and that you are hanging around a long time today. But, you should look in the mirror and repeat all the accusations, thrown at Bobcat and others, to yourself. You are your own worse enemy. Cheers and Smiles :) :) :) !!

September 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM



Worst

Me2l said...

said...
Fizzy drinks sure got a response.

A layperson with a law degree?

September 29, 2016 at 2:22 PM


Are you talking to me? Where have I ever said I have a law degree?



Lol. Gotta admit, you people have entertained me today. Haha

Bobcat said...

Me2l,

You have a law degree, and you are related to Davey. Maybe not directly related but if not, then by marriage.

You too have been entertaining today.

Anonymous said...

Yea Me21, you have certainly offered a good dose of, 100%, unadulterated entertainment here today also! ROTFLMAO!

Me2l said...

I don't have a law degree, and I'm not related to DB.

Lol. SA fail.

Me2l said...

You're "all" (The Hydra) perplexed by me, but the biggest problem for you is that "I'm the smartest person in the room." That's something bobcat can relate to.

This blog is for grownups said...

Dear Anonymous at 2:47 and 3:35,

If you are an adult, please avoid saying "ROTFLMAO." If you are an adolescent, by all means, go ahead, but there are probably forums for middle schoolers that better suit you. :) :) :)

Anonymous said...

Too funny but not surprised Me21 @3:44. Yes, in your own mind, you do think you are the smartest person in tbe room. Keep on tripping baby.😄

Very entertaining...true about Bobcat though.

P.S. don't look in the mirror on that one, the reflection might find it funny too & CrackUp! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😉😉

Anonymous said...

Dear This blog is for grownups, you are not the boss of me and I will continue to use ROTFLMAO if I want to. Isn't that right Me21?

Anonymous said...

Anon@3:59pm, I think you're confused. Me21 was referring to bobcat's comment about herself that she's a genius and always the "smartest person in the room." Maybe you missed that. I was embarrassed for her.


I feel sorry for Bobcat's minions and worshippers. Their lives must be as empty as hers is.

Anonymous said...

I'm not Me21 you imbecile.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

Hydra, that. was a bobcat statement.....something about how she "always" tests in the genius range.

Sigh.

Anonymous said...

Anon @4:07, the statement stands as written.

Anon @4:08, it takes one to know one.

Hey Jude said...


Me21 - kindly disabuse yourself - if you were the smartest person in the room you would stop addressing anonymous commentators as the individuals you would like others to think they are. I did not make the comments you replied to as if they were mine. You have a desperate need to lump some commenters in with 'the Hydra'', which, along with the other insults, show that you are not the smartest person in the room. If you were, you would be able to present your arguments without recourse to personal insult. I only post as Hey Jude.

Once again, you turn the attention away from discussion of the case and towards yourself - you present yourself as one who is desperate to keep burying discussion about the case through distraction and deflection. I do not see evidence of any real interest in SA from you - your participation is mainly in the Blackburn threads; you appeared with the Blackburn case, your posts are shillish. Your commitment to monitoring these threads does not match your interest in the case - you didn't even read the affidavit till the other day, apparently, or were otherwise very eager to misrepresent the contents in regard to what Larry Taylor had said to investigators. That does not add up. Such things are noted - rant as much as you like. :)

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Me2l said...
HJ, please read the comments. The smartest person remark was directed at bobcat regarding a statement about her genius level IQ. She made that statement about herself. I was being sarcastic.

If mis-identifying posters casts doubt about intelligence, then you and bobcat are right up there at the top of the list. Bobcat has identified me as Meg, Davey's family member, an attorney, other posters here. You have done the same thing.

I did not turn the conversation to myself. Bobcat began that dialogue early this morning--a logged in bobcat.

Mama said...

I want some Davey news -updates on his most recent adventures, antics, muscle mass, conspicuous consumption, bastardized scriptural wisdom, upcoming plans for the blow-out to celebrate the one year anniversary of his wife's murder (a city-wide revival?), hot-daddy & Weston photo shoots, etc.



Anonymous said...

None of that matters, mama. What matters is that Bobcat convinces everyone me21 is a lawyer, even if it isn't true.

Anonymous said...

Mama,
I bet you are one of DB's corpulent minions!?

Trudy said...

Hi Hey Jude, @ 4:58 I totally agree. For all her criticism of just about every poster on this blog, I have yet to see any reasoning from Me21 beyond repeated accusations of " outlandish scenario, fantasy, fiction, hysteria", for her opinion. I have never seen her actually attempt to apply SA to any of Crazy Davey's statements. Her broad brush approach that "you people" all hold the same opinion and subscribe to the same theories is laughable, as is her misidentification of all posters as "the Hydra". I made the observation a while ago, that attempting to debate anything with me21 is like playing chess with a pigeon. She knocks over the pieces, shits on the board, then struts around with her chest puffed out like she's won.

me21 said:
"You do realize, don't you, that attorneys routinely take cases where they know the guilt of their client?"

Wrong. It is unethical and illegal for an attorney to take a case if they know the client is guilty.

Nic said...

Anonymous said...
So how do you explain all the videos people post on instagram if there are no videos, lol?

Yes, now there are but when Instagram first launched it was just pics. This year they went to 60 sec. video. Mostly <-- all Amanda's stuff was pics.

Something else I just discovered, FaceBook owns Instagram. I don't know how it is that people buy into all this social media stuff. All it is, is a mechanism to capture data on members and their behaviour, data which they turn around and sell to third parties.

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