Saturday, September 17, 2016

Blackburn: Projection Pre Crime

Shortly before his wife was murdered in a home invasion in which no great theft took place, Davey Blackburn gave this performance.  




On November 10th, 2015, 3 men entered the home, beat, sexually assaulted and shot 3 times, pregnant Amanda Blackburn.  She languished for 2 days before death came.  The fatal shot was to the back of her head, execution style. 

This is not the general behavior of a home invasion robbery in which sudden and often violent interaction takes place for the purpose of theft; incapacitate the home owner enough to take that which was valued.  

Nor was this typical of sexual assault where the primary interest is rape.  

Nor did Amanda Blackburn pose enough resistance to warrant this elevation in violence ending in murder. 

Pre crime and post crime behavior and wording is critical to an overall understanding of the crime.  

Statement analysis of the statements made by Davey Blackburn following the murder showed:

a.  No fear of the then yet to be apprehended killers, nor concern for his son, his neighbors, and the public at large.  A vicious invasive murder produces profound fear, trauma, and concern that the killers, which appeared to the public as "senseless" (since no major theft took place) only increases the fear due to the seemingly random nature of the crime.  Nothing is as frightening as the unknown and with unknown motive, there is the incessant fear that the killers will return.  If it was known that much cash was in the house and this was a robbery, the trauma is lessened for survivors because the motive 'makes sense' in this limited criminal aspect.  Without sense, brutal rapist killers were on the loose.  

b.  An immediate and intense desire to profit from her death.  The language was commercial and shocked the public. Blackburn showed obsessive language about numbers in attendance, like his mentor, Perry Noble.  This unbridled ambition was evidenced within the specific number of attendees, online, to his 'service', while offering nothing about the victim.  The lack of empathy for Amanda was striking.  

c.  Extreme (given both the context and numerical analysis) distancing language from the victims (including the pre born child).  This lack of human empathy for the victims and immediate and consistent distancing from the victims also shocked the public. 
d.  Language of guilt, offering by himself, "for us, we have nothing to hide."  The use of the plural is something that parents of kindergartens recognize as a need to 'hide' or 'share guilt' among a crowd.  
e.  He claimed "Amanda died so the church would live", justifying her death, while claiming to have been alone, naked in the shower, with the Almighty, who spoke to him and gave him "history making" plans.  He qualified the history making plans by removing responsibility of failure from himself to the congregation.  If he does not make history, it would be their fault.  

This represented two elements within murders common of those who either commit the murder, or have guilty knowledge of the murder:  the need to justify the action, and the need to avoid responsibility.  These are not only found in such crimes, but are personality traits found within deviants.  In child homicides, for example, we often find such statements as
"she would not stop crying", shifting blame to the child.
"she was a teenager, you know..." with a subtle shifting of responsibility to hormonal behavior. 

On the day of the murder, Blackburn went to the gym, as he did regularly, at a specific time, returning home at a specific time, yet on this date, he spoke to his best friend (as was his pattern) but remained on the phone for 40 minutes longer than usual.  

This, alone, as a change from the norm, should be examined, but the additional element makes the deviation from the norm heightened:  on this occasion, he remained in the driveway on the phone call while Amanda bled out, with precious time lost. 

Projection and Pre Crime Behavior 

Before the crime, we look for any signals of projection, or even possible planning. 

What did Blackburn, himself, tell us?

1.  He told us that Amanda hindered his ambition.  He told us that he wanted to be out getting the numbers in, but she wanted him home with her.  

2.  He told us that when Amanda first became pregnant, it was the most stressful time in his life. 

3.  He told us that Amanda was incapable of satisfying his sexual needs.  He went as far as to publicly state (in a 'sermon') that Amanda wanted to go out to dinner, but he was incapable of having a conversation with her at dinner until they had sexual relations.  He reduced the victim (pre crime) to sexually reciprocal body parts.  

4.  His public videos show him correcting and embarrassing her.  This passive aggressive nature was in both word and body language.  The public displays of disrespect and humiliation were subtle and consistent. 

5.  Just before the murder, he gave a 'sermon' (with respect to readers of faith) where he waved about this gun as a choreographed prop.  

A man of unrestrained ambition  told the public what it was that stood in his way of success.  He told the public who it was who stood in his way of success.  

As one 30 year criminal investigator said, "no one gets this lucky."  

As soon as she was murdered, his words betrayed him.  His first announcement was a sales pitch for his business, and his second announcement  was his sales report; the number he obtained.  Then, in the media circuit, he continued to sell himself, referencing his upcoming book, while failing to speak about Amanda.  

He attended his father-in-law's church where he said he could not speak, but then could not stop himself from speaking and gave his speech about his naked shower meeting with Deity (something criminal psychologists and analysts recognize associated with sexual homicides and the need to cleans guilt) about his grandiose plans, fully unimpeded.

Had he been polygraphed, the course of the case might have dramatically shifted.  A defense attorney would have had all the videos removed immediately and would have silenced Blackburn.  

The narcissistic lack of human empathy shocked a nation, but it was specifically in his words that we see the removal of hinderance from his ambitious plans; not unlike powerful, ruthless politicians. 

Blackburn was immediately cleared by police and is judicially innocent of the murder of Amanda Blackburn, as his alibi of being at the gym at the time of her murder was sustained and the three males arrested.  It does not appear that Blackburn was asked to polygraph although the statistics are clear that when a pregnant woman is murdered, the husband/boyfriend is most often involved.  






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Anonymous said...

College roommates. They either switch after one or two semesters or become very, very close. Davey & Ken were CLOSE.

Hey Ken,

I have a story for you.

The story is we talk every Tuesday morning from 7-8 am.

Yep, got it. Anything else?

I need you to tweet how much you enjoy these convos every Tuesday morning.

Anything for you, friend.

--------
This is what roomies do for each other.

DB has college dirt on KW.

Anonymous said...

Yes I know some gay men conceive children but the energy I get off him is that he has never slept with a woman. Even linguistically, he says stuff that indicates that imo like he is just pretending to know what a couple's sexlife is like. Like saying how he thinks about sex every 5 seconds but he is surprised if women think about it once a month. His comments show incredible levels of naivete which would be obvious to any adult people who have ever been in a relationship...they would realize thus guy is full of sh&t about how women and men are. He doesnt realize how naive he sounds though bc I dont think HE ever consummated the relationship. I dunno...it's like he's pretending to be "in the know" about how men and women relate.
He also says things that sound so rapey that I feel if he actually was that rapey he would attempt to hide it. Like saying "Wives you need to have sex with your husbands no matter if you feel like it or not" and saying he cant eat dinner till he has sex and saying he turns everything into a sexual innuendo even Amanda asking him to clean up Weston's toys and saying when he comes back from a couple day trip he essentially cant stand hearing Amanda talk bc he needs to have sex immediately...I just truly think someone who actually acted that rapey would attempt to hide it better?
He just gives off a vibe to me like he is just pretending to be in a married sexual relationship bc...it just seems he's fabricating it, and w the rapey type comments it's like he doesnt even realize how bad he sounds bc he's not actually engaged in acting that way to realize how awful and unacceptable that would be bc if he did he would try to hide that behavior, notbrag about it. jmo

Anonymous said...

It does sound like overcompensation, the way he said he could turn anything into an innuendo (something like "would you put Weston's toy's in the box?" "yeah, I'll put YOUR toys in the box !" - not being able to focus on the gym because he is distracted by looking at "the girls who dress like they aren't there to work out, they're there to be WORKED OUT, if you know what I mean".

Kenneth Wagner says "what you need to know about this story is that me and Davey would speak every Tuesday". . .

Tuesday was the perfect day for a murder, then.

Anonymous said...

They did not speak Every Tuesday, but that's the story and they're sticking to it.

Me2l said...

@4:06, since I've been reading the blog the past few months, you're batting a perfect zero. 0000

Anonymous said...

Resonate Church tweeted
"Instead of focusing on being beautiful, focus on finding joy in the Lord."

https://mobile.twitter.com/resonateindy/status/778974781710471168?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email&iid=674e578acee44c7d810139a0acdb5880&uid=409489839&nid=244+272699409


Much much focus on Instagram about Davey's muscles, his being ripped, how lucky for Davey and Ashley that there was a Crossfit box on their beach trip. Humblebrag to say oh see what fantastic shape I'm in. Lots of shirtless vain pix and videos of Davey working out. Perhaps he should follow the advice he is tweeting?

Anonymous said...

He is not straight, and I dont think he's ever slept with a woman. He does have gay guy muscles, although thinking back on the gays I have known who've had that type of body do seem more asexual yet nurturing. Usually I get kind of a cold maternal energy from them. Davey has a coldness that reminds me of Ted Bundy. I get a violent energy off him. But overall I think he is in love with himself...I think he works out to impress others but mostly himself. He is very plastic looking and lacks that "maternal" quality very muscular gay men often have.

Anonymous said...

I see two shirtless pics..... one cropped just below the shoulders (with Ashley and Derek) and one where he's working out with Weston. So where are all these "lots of shirtless vain pix," anon @6:35?

Just sayin..... Why lie to make your point?

Anonymous said...

To the people obsessed with Davey's instagram: Jung would call that the "persona"...it is the way an individual presents his or herself to others...

I often wonder regarding social media about middle-aged men who put up "cutsie" memes...like the kind of memes a grandma would put up...very benign, harmless, barely funny...what does that mean? What could that person be hiding? Maybe nothing...but why do that?

Anonymous said...

"Shirtless vain pix and videos of Davey working out"

Anonymous said...
I see two shirtless pics..... one cropped just below the shoulders (with Ashley and Derek) and one where he's working out with Weston. So where are all these "lots of shirtless vain pix," anon @6:35?

Just sayin..... Why lie to make your point?



I was posting fast and from iPhone on tiny screen, poor sentence structure.
Translation -

Lots of
shirtless vain pix
and
(shirtless vain)
videos
of Davey working out

I'm not lying - and even two is a lot when his church or he or someone is tweeting to focus on finding joy in the lord instead of being beautiful. His whole focus is about (1) his physical appearance (2) convincing us that he had no idea someone had been in his house (3) cute pictures of Weston meant to tug at hearts (4) numbers for his church.

Anonymous said...

Well, whoever said there was nothing new here was wrong today.

Nothing is wasted.

We await the worldwide evangilution.

Anonymous said...

Emily Dickinson would be appalled at that catastrophic poem.

ABB

dnd said...

Why did DB have a bad feeling they were going to walk in a season of pain, why did he think something was probably going to happen to the baby, so much so that he thought something happened to the baby when he found Amanda, possible miscarriage instead of seeing bullet holes. He sure was having negative thoughts about the baby! Also, he admitted he didn't know the sex of the baby. Makes me wonder why he named it and even wrote it on the headstone. He had no idea it was a girl. Makes me wonder what kind of game he was playing. Maybe Amanda hated that name, maybe she really thought it was a boy. Maybe he was scaring her with his talk of losing the baby. Something is really wrong with all that, seeing how he never mentioned the baby before it seemed essential to his book. Even remembered months later that he prayed for Amanda's and the baby's safety the day of their murder.

Violet said...

I also cannot fathom why he would put "Evie Grace" on the tombstone, when they didn't even know the gender of the baby. Is he so enlightened that he just KNEW it was a girl?

There really is "something wrong with that boy." I don't think he is safe to be around. Someway, somehow I hope the truth comes out.

Anonymous said...

Updated timeline
http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

I reviewed Kenneth Wagner's alibi quote. There is a lot more stuttering than originally quoted.
http://resonateindianapolis.com/mediacast/resonate-church-how-did-we-get-here/
“And what you need to know about thistop this, this, what I’m the story that I’m telling you, me and Davey speak every Tuesday morning from seven to eight”

Anonymous said...

I hope LE has a plan to use CD's witness testimony against him in the future. First, put the thugs away. Then go after CD.

Anonymous said...

Wtf? Other than Bobcat's update this is the same old ferris wheel of Davey observations?!

Albert Einstein said...

I wonder why Davey sat with the Lord on his couch. That seems suspicious. Why would he say he was relaxing with the Lord on his couch when it was his long day and he should have been fueling up with pop tarts for the gym to get his maximum workout? Wouldnt he utilize that time more efficiently? Why would he just relax with the Lord on the couch? While Amanda was sleeping. Wouldn't he want to snuggle or maybe get the coffee going for her when she awoke? Why would he just be sitting with the Lord on the couch?

Albert Einstein said...

Bobcat, Can you file my observation away about wasted time on the couch? He should have been eating breakfast or snuggling or making coffee but he was just sitting with the Lord doing jack squat. Thanks. I really don't want to lose track of this insight.

Anonymous said...

New to the party maybe ?

There are many across the n-nation, even th- the world, who have commented on Davey's words and actions in the comments section for videos, news pieces on websites and on the Facebook Justice Seekers page. There are many who might have not seen this blog until now. More eyes on Davey will feed into more comments being posted.

The ferris wheel or rollercoaster, take your pick, will continue to be in motion for years perhaps.

Amanda "broke the news" to Davey about the new baby - girl or boy, it wasn't wanted. It was a calculated thing on Davey's part to concoct little "Everett (Evie) Grace Blackburn". I seriously doubt Amanda had anything whatsoever to do with that choice of name.

It's like in the movie "A Few Good Men" when the decedent Private William Santiago was referred to as "Willie" - and the defense attorney advised his clients to NOT call him Willie when speaking in court - because once he was referred to as Willie, then he has a mom and family who care about him and the jury would react to that.

Same with Evie Grace - once there is a name instead of just "an unborn child", it's a more poignant story - and this is ALL about the story.

Albert Einstein said...

Oh, now you have a nervous, timid stutter!

And this: "The ferris wheel or rollercoaster, take your pick, will continue to be in motion for years perhaps."

LMFAO!!!! Dream on!

Anonymous said...

Jacola is concealing information.

Yes, she is a victim, but her car was taken (and returned undamaged) specifically to use to drive to Sunnyfield Court.

A Fresh Angle on the Case said...

What about when Davey was scribing his sermon? I looked at it under a microscope after enlarging it on my computer, and I'm fairly certain there are tiny but perceptible doodles strongly resembling Perry Noble in the margins. Could this be insight into what Davey was thinking during his long day? Did he do these doodles early morning before the sun came up on his couch while he was lounging about?

Anonymous said...

No anon, Jacola is not concealing information. Time to take your anti-psychoses meds and put your conspiracy crapola theories to rest.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, can you please file that away that on Sep 23rd at 1:16 am I told tin-foil hate person to stop coming up with conspiracy crapola about Jacola?

Anonymous said...

I'm hating the lunacy and the back and forth but it's for a good cause, putting this overbearing queer where he belongs behind bars.

ABB

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 1:16

Did you complete an investigative interview with Jacola?

Anonymous said...

Albert Einstein, it's not my stutter - I'm sure you recognize that it's a not-so-affectionately mimicking of Davey's stuttering every.single.time. when he speaks of the events of the morning of November 10th and in his media blitz immediately following.

Everyone notices that for a public speaker with a communications degree, he comes across as very nervous and insecure/unsure when discussing how he walked in to find Amanda. He can't put two coherent thoughts together or two consistent stories when speaking about her - but he can spout endless drivel with no stuttering or stumbling whatsoever when it has nothing to do with her or what he honestly thought or felt on that morning.

And Albert Einstein, interest in this case and calling attention to Davey's words and actions isn't going to go away - laugh your f-ing ass off all you want, hope all you want.

I think it is not a coincidence that Jacola Searsbrook's car was found abandoned on the very street where Amanda's former youth pastor in Elkhart lives now. Does anyone else find this to be more than unlikely for the car to be abandoned undamaged on that particular street - and then for Davey to mention it in one of his appearances (and probably looking around for a reaction as he said it?)


Albert Einstein said...

I just feel you've Sherlocked this case to the max, and you're drawing it out for some reason, and yes I am laughing my f-cking ass off at your stutter.

Anonymous said...

I have a small crush on Billy Bob Thornton. He's so down-to-earth and masculine unlike that other light-in-his-loafers gaylord wife-killer.

ABB

Anonymous said...

I particularly like the Dorothy red shoes that go with the too-short too-small jackets, ripped capri jeans, and long T-shirts.

Anonymous said...

He does NOT dress like a guy who likes girls.

Anonymous said...

He may look as spiffy as a day in May, but that doesn't change the fact he's got his eyes set only on broad-shouldered men covered in sweat doing pull-ups at the gym showing their glistening selves off for all the world to see. Without a single thought of modesty or personal hygiene.

ABB

Anonymous said...

I can relate to Angelina, growing more beautiful with age, even as she wonders how she will feed six hungry mouths, wandering confused and pummeled by the harsh winds of abandonment, confusion and rage, tirelessly and frantically combing her mind wondering why Brad went off with the first trollop who passed his way. What did she do wrong? Nothing. She married a bland, spoiled, infantile Hollywood has-been and toiled endlessly to feed their enormous brood while Brad thought of nothing but indulging himself with pot, cocaine, amphetamines, and letting his gaze wander to a woman not worth half Angelina's weight in salt.

ABB

Trudy said...

Since you facetiously bring it up, Albert E, let me reiterate. Crazy Davey's "long day" is a lie. Notice he says " Tuesday's were MY long day", not "ONE of my long Days" or even "A long day".

Yet, according to his blog, Sunday's (as you might expect for a pastor) and Monday's were longer days.

Tuesday he spent all day writing. That is not a long day. So why did he lie?

Saying "Tuesday's were my long days" is to answer an unasked question. ie. ""why were you up at 4:30 am on the day your wife was murdered?

I think he said it to CHA in case someone (a neighbor) had seen lights on intheBlackburn home in the small hours of the morning.

The weekly phone conversation with KW was factored in as part of CDs alibi. What is unusual about it, is that CD was not ready for it.
KW called (as usual) at 7:00, but CD was still working out when the call came. I wonder where CD normally was on Tuesday mornings at 7:00am.

Going over the minutiae in this case will continue. The devil is in the details.

Anonymous said...

Why are you so passionate about this case?

Bingo3 said...

From Anon:
"Same with Evie Grace - once there is a name instead of just "an unborn child", it's a more poignant story - and this is ALL about the story."

Davey named the baby and put her on the headstone only for his story. Nail on head, Anon!

Trudy, my thoughts exactly. DB was up at 4:30 for sinister reasons. He has no explanation except that he read his bible (casually) and grabbed his gym bag in the 100 minutes he had that morning. He never mentions the invisible Amanda. The only two consistent stories he tells about the morning are that it was his long day and he headed to the gym. I agree, Trudy that he needed to continue to explain the long day and being up at 4:30 in case someone saw his lights on.

Bobcat said...

DB spent time in the "word" between 4:30 and leaving for the gym.

"Word" has a number of meanings.

One is affirmation or agreement.
It is also the shortened form of the phrase "my word is my bond"

Biblically, it is used as part of the phrase "The Word of the Lord"
He did not say "The Word of the Lord"

This is not a conspiracy theory, a direct quote from DB - a man with a degree in communications and a thorough enjoyment and understanding of word meanings.

Anon "I" said...

Bobcat, I have regularly heard "The Word" referred to and, here in
the south, it is accepted as meaning "The Word of the Lord." To me,
its not all that strange and its meaning is clear to many.

Thanks for working on the timeline.

Nic said...

Anonymous Bingo3 said...
From Anon:
"Same with Evie Grace - once there is a name instead of just "an unborn child", it's a more poignant story - and this is ALL about the story."

Davey named the baby and put her on the headstone only for his story. Nail on head, Anon!


Nothing wasted.

Upon reflection, many men loose their wives. I know I sound callous saying that that kind of story is common and almost expected (spouses don't usually die at the same time, but we can count on "until death do us part"). However, not many men loose their wife and baby at the same time, in such a tragic and gruesome manner no less. It does make for a heart-wrenching narrative. It really did "launch" DB's church business.

jmo

Me2l said...

"The Word" is the bible in that denomination-speak.

"Tuesdays were his long days" and somehow, it can only be defined from local blog analysts' perspectives and understanding of "long day"?

Anonymous said...

However, not many men loose their wife and baby at the same time, in such a tragic and gruesome manner no less. It does make for a heart-wrenching narrative. It really did "launch" DB's church business.

I know I sound callous in saying this, but I think Davey would've sacrificed Weston that morning too if he thought it would have a greater chance of launching his church business.

Except that he needed Weston. Weston is a photo prop. Tearjerking pictures, or an attempt at it anyway.

Weston is being used to put ornaments on Christmas trees with Amanda's name on them, put flowers on her grave on Mothers Day and kiss Evie Grace's name on the gravestone. These things could've happened without needing a photo op - or at least not SHARING them, keeping them personal.

There are pix of Weston sitting on the steps with a fan beside him and eating in his high chair while watching a movie on a flatscreen TV mounted above the fireplace in the massive new house.

Then again, keeping personal things personal isn't Davey's strong suit either - if he is really going to publish Amanda's private journals that she hated him reading - why wouldn't he post pictures of Weston "grieving"?

Anonymous said...

Weston also fits into the "grieving single father who is also a pastor" profile, and by the way to support Weston would you please give donations through Resonate Church for us.

I wonder- if people who gave donations knew what Davey has been buying- whether or not they would choose to give to him again if they could turn back time? Somehow I think many of those who gave donations to the Blackburn Fund were thinking it was for Weston for college or for daycare since Amanda couldn't be caring for him. Not for a brand new SUV for Davey, new house with a pool, trips around the world.

There is STILL a link on the Resonate Church website to give to the "Blackburn Family Support Fund" - in addition to "General Tithe/Offering", "Gauntlet Scholarhsip" and "Joey Kellogg".

He is completely shameless still asking for donations - although at least he took down the much more obvious link from the past, I think it was on a page with Amanda's picture on it.

Anonymous said...

According to DB, Amanda "gave" her life so Weston could have his.
http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/weston-i-want-to-tell-you-about-your-mommy

This is PURE SPECULATION, but I could see DB bringing up the topic with Amanda after showing her the Levi Lusko video on the train.

DB: "Gee Amanda, if Weston died and our church grew because of it (as happened for Levi after his daughter died), could we still carry on with Resonate?"

Amanda: "I don't think I could. I would rather die than lose Weston."

I don't think Davey would have sacrificed BOTH Amanda and Weston, but EITHER Amanda or Weston.

What is worst/best?
The un-well-read, unsatisfying annoying wife?
A two year old?
Both?
Both plus an infant?
Just the two year old with lots of ladies to help with him?
Narcissistic sociopathic issues?

Anonymous said...

How is Davey so sure

when he is talking to Weston in the "wanting to tell you about your mommy" blog post

telling Weston "and that was the last time you saw her" (the last time Weston saw Amanda)

at 8pm the night before when she kissed him goodnight and tucked him into bed?


Davey talks of Amanda laughing at something later that night (and annoying him yet again) - Weston was asleep in his crib.
Davey leaves for the gym at 6-6:10am and doesn't go back into the house until 8:20am.

HOW does Davey know, and to be able to say with such certainty, that Weston never saw Amanda that morning? Maybe they were both still sleeping when he left for the gym - but what happened after he left?

How does he know for sure that Amanda and Weston didn't wake up and that they weren't rattling around the house together or having any interaction at all at some point during the timeframe of after he left for the gym and before he returned?

Amanda had to be already rendered incapable of going upstairs to tend to Weston when Davey left for the gym, then?

Anonymous said...

@411 Yes I believe she was already shot by the time Davey left for the gym. Linguitically thete are indicators she was shot the afternoon or evening before.

Anonymous said...

When did Amanda's social media activity cease? Why no pics put up of time at kid gym, shopping, grandma house? Women often put these pics up in the moment or in the evening when they get home from the outing and have time. No pics of the special time with her visiting sister? Any texts sent out or even received by Amanda post kid-gym that morning? Does the absence of these things post kid-gym not make you wonder if she was shot and dying at that point?
Any pics put up by Amber of kid gym day with Amanda? What about Davey? He was there at Grandma's house--no pics from him?
Imnot even a big facebook user but I do put up pics when my sister visits as its a happy time and nice to get a "together with sister pic".

Nic said...

Something else I keep forgetting to add. DB was supposedly up at 4:30 and out the door at 6. In everything he describes -- not much of anything, except sitting on the coach and reading his bible before "grabbing" his gym clothes like he had some place to be, did he let the dog out? Did he feed Mel? Regardless if you have a dog or a cat (or as in our case, a bird,) when you're up, they're up! I could accept Amanda and Weston still asleep, but Mel?

This segue doesn't even come into play in his story about that morning.

Anon "I" said...

If Weston was on some sort of baby program, do you
honestly think there wasn't a dog program?

I couldn't resist... sorry.

Nic said...

@4:53, interesting observation about social media. I can't say for sure.

Here's a thought. Sunday was DB's long day, but it was also "their day". Interesting she died on a day they would typically spend time together, when there would be no third-party obligations/interference. It was just wide open. It's just so coincidental how their last day together, was together, but just not as planned. Instead DB found himself in the hospital, at Amanda's bedside praying for a miracle.

Life sure does turn on a dime.

Nic said...

Anonymous Anon "I" said...
If Weston was on some sort of baby program, do you
honestly think there wasn't a dog program?


:0)

Anonymous said...

Interesting note from police press conference months ago.
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/11/13/impd-may-address-blackburn-slaying-press-conference/75696864/

"At 6:11 a.m., Hench said, Davey Blackburn left his home to head to the gym. His wife was still at home, and the couple's toddler was in his crib."

Weston was "in his crib". Amanda was "still" "at home". Still at home? Was she getting ready to leave to go somewhere? Did DB give the vague response of "at home" because Amanda was lying on the living room floor instead of sleeping in bed?

I wonder if Hench is using DB's words to describe Amanda's location. Very, very curious.

Nic said...

Bobcat said:
Weston was "in his crib". Amanda was "still" "at home". Still at home? Was she getting ready to leave to go somewhere?


It was a work day. He might not have realized she was a full-time mom/worked out of her garage and she was where she was suppose to be?

Anonymous said...

Nice find Bobcat !

His wife was still at home -

But doing what?
In what condition?

He says Weston was "in his crib" - exact location.


He could have said exactly where Amanda was - and what she was doing - but he does not. . .

whether she was -

in bed (sleeping or not)

in the garage getting ready to work on furniture

in the kitchen making coffee

on her knees by the bedside leading the way in surrender (no wait, that was the morning BEFORE). . .


The point is, he could have said something way more descriptive about Amanda than that she was "still at home". That statement IS vague. And now I think it was intentionally vague. It's true - she was still at home. But where, and in what condition at that point?

Anonymous said...

And why didn't he say it? Up until the last two weeks, Amanda was invisible from the time she kissed Weston goodnight on Monday night - and just recently she turned up later that night laughing at something and annoying Davey in the process . . .

. . . but still no mention of what she was doing that morning, ever. Whether she was already awake, or up preparing for the day and getting Weston's breakfast ready - and he described her as "still at home" to IMPD.

Contrast that (yet again) to Amber's recollection of almost everything she and Amanda talked about, where they went (Starbucks etc), what they did the whole day before.

The lack of detail and vagueness or omission of anything about Amanda that morning is maybe because he *couldn't* describe where she was, what she was doing, how he left her - without implicating himself ?

Trudy said...

CD has stated several times in interviews that "Tuesday is my long day".

I'm not defining " my long day" (singular) from my own perspective and understanding, but from Davey's own blog. "After LONG DAYS pouring out to people on Sunday, pushing through the Monday spiritual hang-over coupled with a late-night leadership meeting, and writing all day Tuesday's..."

He wrote all day, Tuesday's.

But I take your point. Maybe he didn't enjoy writing and from his perspective spending all day writing was what made Tuesday "my long day" As opposed to Sunday and Monday (for instance).
I, personally, could work hard for 10 hours a day, Monday - Sat, then on Sunday be forced to spend 20 minutes with me2, and I would call Sunday "my long day".


Trudy said...

There are so many questions to which we may never have an answer. I have lots about Mel the dog, too.

Before Darlie Routier was arrested, she allowed a reporter into her home. The reporter filmed a little white dog barking furiously.
Darlie was laughing and said something like " it's ok. She does that every time there is a stranger in the house".

The next question was why didn't the dog bark on the night Devon and Damon were murdered?

To which there was no answer.

Anonymous said...

Assuming that Crazy Davey is innocent, does anyone have an explanation as to how the Kilt gang members knew to go directly to an unoccupied house? It surely wasn't random. And if they took the opportunity to rob CDs house after seeing him leave, and had already stolen 4 television sets, why didn't they take CDs TV? The robberies almost look like non robberies, so little was taken, despite the inordinate amount of time spent in the homes.

Anonymous said...

850, That little tidbit about the TVs and nature of the robbery from the Blackburn house has already been pointed out well over 20 times (at least). Try again.

Anonymous said...

Thanks, smart arse @9:34. I wasn't pointing out a tidbit, I was asking a question. Moron.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Davey turned the lights off before he left the house that morning.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Davey was listening to this song on his earbuds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9pFPOI8ecw

Anonymous said...

Or this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIwiliEOiCk

dnd said...

And wasn't there a black SUV that came thru to pick up the tv's. Who was in that truck and what phone # did he have? Not much was ever told about that, was there?

dnd said...

And did anyone get a screen shot of DB's friend Treezy?

Anonymous said...

If you click on a link offered by a troll, you get everything you deserve. The trolls here continue to callously trivialize Amanda's murder with their inanity. Sometimes, though, they inadvertently draw attention to points worth discussing.

I wonder if the ear buds were tested for DNA.

Anonymous said...

This is updated again with everything reported or stated. I left out some obvious storytelling but those quotes are noted in the comments.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html


anon @ 10:13
DB mentioned/leaked "lens" in retelling that morning once. Night vision lenses? Perhaps the lights were off and stayed off.

6/5/2016 https://vimeo.com/169442837
"Get up arout, about 4:30 in the morning, and uh, spend some time, um, in the word, and um, you know, I’ve just found that, the best way to put a good lens on your day is even just spending like ten minutes, reading your bible, you know."

Anonymous said...

anon @ 10:47

The earbuds are a sensitive issue. I wonder if they were left behind in the "pool of blood".

DB mentioned earphones a bunch of times since - possible to assure people that he never lost his? as in... Oh these old things...I've had them forever. Never lost any...

Trudy said...

The black SUV seen leaving the cul de sac at 6:00 seems to have disappeared from the narrative. If the 4 stolen tvs were loaded into the SUV , that. might explain why the TV wasn't stolen from Crazy Davey's house.

If LT, JW and DG were in the Sebring, who was in the black SUV?

I agree with the commenter who suggested attention should be placed on the criminals who were hired by CD first, and CD afterwards. Concentrating on the actions of the Kilt gang members should make CDs involvement clearer.

I originally thought Diano Gordon was the CI. Now I think it was, perhaps it was Alonzon Bull. I'm not sure. It definitely wasn't LT, as the CI describes LT as having maximum involvement in all the crimes committed that morning, whilst minimizing the involvement of the others.

Bobcat said...

dnd

If you can find anything on the SUV, please post it.

The Blackburns owned a dark SUV at the time.

A commenter here said they took a screencap of Treezy & DB as "friends" and sent it to LE, but never heard a response.

It was around 11/29 or 11/30 that the friendship was exposed, and then Treezy was unfriended from both Alonzo and Davey.

Bobcat said...

Thinking about the SUV again. The APC says DB took the old Honda Civic to the gym.

I wonder if he lied about which car he used.

Wake the Hell up if you want to solve this case! said...

You people are just spinning your wheels at this point. You want to obsess over which SUV did this or that or took TVs.
Why don't you focus on Amber's narrative in which Amanda's vehicle disappears from the narrative and Davey drives Amanda and Weston home from Grandma's house in his vehicle.?

You want to agonize over was a screenshot taken of this thug or that thug? How about paying attention to the fact that in this day and age of constant cell phone picture taking and social media updates, what is the last photo or video image of Amanda prior to Davey finding her? Can you answer that, genuises? The answer is the last image is on a video surveillance footage taken at the entrance of the church on the way to the kids' gym (supposedly): there are no images of her IN the kids' gym...Amber was allegedly offered the video footage upon returning to the kids gym and received it in the mail weeks later. This underlines the fact that Amber had no other images of Amanda beyond that point in time...not one photo snapped in the kids gym, in the mall, or at Grandma's house. The fact you people don't focus in a little more on this startling fact and this very peculiar attaining and posting of a short surveillance video footage shows you people are not seeing the forest through the trees. There are no photos beyond this point! NO photos of Amber's kids or Weston in kids' gym, at Grandma's house. Wake up!!! Seriously, wake the hell up because your detective work is overly focused on that morning and it needs to expand into the day before.

Trudy said...

Bobcat, the black SUV is mentioned by Eric Hensch in the police presser. He spoke after Riddle.

He says the SUV was captured on a neighbor's camera, entering and leaving the cul de sac.

Trudy said...

Oh, the black SUV was captured on a neighbor's security cam @ around 6:00 am, according to Hensch.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and also when I say "you people" I realize I am only talking to one person pretending to be many. Pretty smart huh? Yeah maybe my other points are just as smart.

Anonymous said...

This is so stupid. Have fun talking to yourself. That's crazy.

Trudy said...

11:23pm. Could you please explain your theory in straightforward terms. I can't understand what you are implying. Thanks.

dnd said...

Around the time DB left. " Wake the Hell Up", why don't you tell me the significance of the car and no pictures. I don't know what car AB drove to meet her sister, or what car DB drove her home in. As far as I know, nothing has been said about what happened to the car AB drove, and how or when it was picked up. I don't have time now to go back and research the SUV, but will when I can.

Trudy said...

The ear buds do seem to be sensitive. They were found on the floor, unattached to any device, next to Amanda.

The story of Crazy Davey, lying on the floor, weeping, listening to worship music through his earbuds, in the spot he found he found Amanda, sounds so contrived.

I don't necessarily doubt that it happened, but I think he wanted to be found in that position by Amanda's family to shore up his "grieving husband" role.

But back to the question, (not that there's an answer) were the earbuds found on the floor tested for DNA? Whose were they?

Anonymous said...

Trudy,

My belief is that something was done to Amanda after she entered the church...likely shortly after she arrived inside the kids gym but perhaps before she even made it into the kids gym.

The last visual record we have of her is entering the church...noone offered Amber surveillance of Amanda IN the kids gym. My feeling is that is because Amanda was not there for long or perhaps never entered the gym itself.
At some point, Davey showed up at the kids gym OR he actually drove them there (this explains how Amanda's car "disappears" from the narrative and turns into Davey's car).
And I believe at some point, she left with Davey from that kids gym perhaps DAvey saying Amber can you watch WEston we need some alone time or we need to run an errand. I believe he drove her home at that time, and at some point after that in the afternoon or early evening, he shot her.
Weston may have stayed with Amber...Davey may have called her and said "Can you watch him a little longer?"

There are all kinds of sensitivities in Amber's account including why she was even staying for the weekend.
There is a vehicle that disappears from the narrative.
There are no visual images that prove any of the things Amber stated happened happened that day: There is no visual proof of Amanda being inside the kid's gym, being inside the mall, being inside Grandma's house, OR being in her own house (unharmed) that evening. There was an effort to attain and post video proof that Amanda had entered the church hallway. There is a reason that "proof" was attained, and there is a reason that there is no visual proof of her whereabouts at any point after entering that hallway. That is my opinion. There is also a reason Amanda's car "disappears" from the narrative.

My feeling is she never entered the kids'gym. Perhaps DAvey had driven them there, entered the kids gym ahead of the sisters (that would explain WEston eagerly running into the gym), and DAvey may have walked out of the gym after WEston ran in and said "Hey Amber, you mind if we go for a drive, do some errands, would you mind watching Weston for a little while?" Amber says "OK sure' Davey and Amanda leave, he drive her home and shoots her. Why would he do it that way? WEll, for one, it would make it so a toddler (WEston) wasn't running around and present when he shot her.

Bobcat said...

Trudy,

The children's gym theories posed by Anon have been posed before.

It is a troll trying to distract.

Amber's notes from Monday are already in the timeline.

Anonymous said...

From Amber's narrative, I believe she was watching Weston and that Weston WAS at the Grandma's and that DAvey did come pick him up, entered the GRandma's house and that he did playfully chase WEston around the living room, but I believe Amanda was NOT there. Amber does not make any mention of her there except that she could NOT hug her bc she Amanda was holding packages (notice what is stated in the negative). The only other mention is of Amber watching Amanda WATCH Davey chase Weston (showing what a good MOM she was). In my opinion, this is unusual...this perspective of an individual's last memory of someone or any memory being of watching that person watch someone else. To me, it's a somewhat unnatural perspective that suggests possible fabrication. Think about it: HOw often does a person write about watching someone watch someone else? A fiction writer maybe. Where the writer is "omniscient" and he is 'watching" the characters he has created react or watch other characters--that is how any fiction writer creates their story. Can you see what I'm saying? It's adopting an "omniscient", unnatural viewpoint.

Anonymous said...

No I'm not trying to distract. This is what I believe.

Anonymous said...

Amber wrote that Amanda was on the couch laughing.

Anonymous said...

Just out of interest, why WAS Amber in Indianapolis? Why did she cut short the Byars family holiday, and fly 12 (?)hours?

I thought she said Amanda talked her into it, but I am probably misremembering.

Anonymous said...

You ignore the bulk of what I wrote.

Also, Amber wrote that her last memory is of Amanda sitting on the couch laughing at Davey chasing Weston.

Amber's memory is of her WATCHING someone else (Amanda) WATCH someone else--Davey.

This is not a "natural" perspective, and as I writer, I see that it is not natural.

When we recall from a personal perspective, it is very unusual to recall things in this way. An individual is likely to remember "WE watched the sunset" "WE were looking at Niagra Falls". "We were watching Davey and laughing".

We do not typically recall things as an "omniscient" observer...watching another watch another person and that is EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS DOING. She is not saying "I remember US laughing at Davey chasing Weston".
No. She is WATCHING Amanda WATCH (and laugh) at Davey chasing Weston.
This is putting herself into the omniscient observer role. This is how fiction is written. The writer is not IN the story--he or she is OUTSIDE the story watching the characters watch others and react.

Take it or leave it. I'm a writer and I picked up this right away.

Anonymous said...

And yes, Amber essentially said that Amanda texted her saying "Im picking you up from the airport!" And then talked her into staying longer than she had planned.

Anonymous said...

I dunno. I thought about what I wrote about Amber watching Amanda laughing and I guess I may be off base in a certain way. But there's just something weird about it. Maybe just that I think it's weird she was paying such close attention to Amanda laughing at Davey chasing Weston and that that is her only memory from the evening at Grandma's. There's no personal interaction with Amanda. No mention of we talked about this or that, no mention of actually hugging her, no mention of "us" laughing. Somehow, I just don't get the sense Amanda was actually there.

Anonymous said...

Sure, but why was Amber in Indianapolis in the first place?

Anonymous said...

Amber flew in on Monday morning right? She'd only been there one night before Amanda was murdered, so she wasn't there because Amanda talked her into staying. Does anyone know why she cut short her Byars family holiday to fly 12 hours to Indianapolis? Did Amanda ask her to come?

Anonymous said...

I don't know why she cut her holiday short but she does say that Amanda talked her into staying through the weekend right when Amanda picked her up--it's right there in Amber's 48 Hour piece.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why she was in Indianapolis in the first place....it seems linguistically Amber whitewashes over that fundamental point by going on about how Amanda texted her and insisted on picking her up from the airport and then talked her into staying. There are also strange time inconsistencies in the account of flying up.

Anonymous said...

The surveillance footage is STRANGE - and it seems if Amber had even one picture from Grandma's house of Amanda on the couch laughing, she would share it.

I like the theory that there are no more pictures and that something happened the day before.

Anonymous said...

Oh really? You like that theory now? Hmmmmm...you got a good buzz going or something?

Anonymous said...

"I know my truth. I respect my truth." --Brad Pitt



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-XjoLVakXE

Anonymous said...

I thought that Ambers post comparing Amanda in hospital having Weston, to Amanda dying in hospital after being shot in the head, was weird. Saying that, both times, she (Amber) was asleep at her grandmothers house, and all that other stuff seemed odd to me. But maybe me21 is correct. Davey is a malignant narcissist, and so, says weird, unexpected things, and Amber is a fervent Christian, and so, says weird, unexpected things.

I can't believe Amber is complicit in any way.

Anonymous said...

Maybe,despite all the weirdness, this really was a robbery gone wrong.

Anonymous said...

SCAN doesn't lie. Doesn't matter if you are SCANNING the words of a fervent Christian or a narcissist.

Me2l said...

Anonymous said...
Maybe,despite all the weirdness, this really was a robbery gone wrong.
September 24, 2016 at 2:39 AM



Weirdness? I assume you're talking about Davey's weirdness, i.e. his behavior since his wife's murder. The most extreme weirdness, however, can be found in these comments, where fiction, fairytale writing and imaginations run wild, dreams are presented as analysis, and inebriation produces a flurry of anon posters, all in the same body, talking to each other. The Hydra's most drunken story (she says she's a "writer," after all) is the version where Amber is involved in the murder of her sister.

Statement analysis, it is not.

Me2l said...

Anonymous said.....
SCAN doesn't lie. Doesn't matter if you are SCANNING the words of a fervent Christian or a narcissist.
September 24, 2016 at 2:53 AM




SCAN does not lie, but the ability of the analyst claiming to use it is vital to accurate analysis.

Me2l said...

Random thought: It's interesting that, among commenters in these Blackburn blogs, it is unanimously accepted that Davey is a liar and told The Lie during his youth that was so destructive it forced his family to move.

Davey's truthfulness in his every statement is questioned ...... except when it comes to The Lie. In that case, his truthfulness is never doubted, although no one seems to be able to confirm the existence of the The Lie. Whether Davey told The Lie or made up a melodramatic story about telling The Lie, commenters here have overwhelmingly chosen to believe he told the truth this one time about telling The Lie. (Convoluted Logic)

(heads up...sarcasm) I'm sure, though, Davey would never fabricate such a thing for his benefit, which would include the spiritual drama through which he has navigated his life, a common tactic used by many preachers (minus the lying).

mom2many said...

Me2I, do you think the lie story comes from a sermon? This is the second time I've seen you post about it in that context. The lie story comes from his old blog during college, which has been mostly replaced by the current blog. I haven't commented about the lie. I suspect much of the effect of this lie has been exaggerated on his part. Also, I think the family moving shortly after isn't likely related, but it could be if whatever happened impacted his father's ability to minister effectively.

Anonymous said...

Me2l,

That's hilarious, because I dont drink, and Im not the drunken Hydra. You are.

Im confident in my SA abilities.

My theory (based on SA and fundamental clues) actually follows Occam's Razor. It is far less covoluted than the theories that suggest Amanda was shot and "disabled" before the thugs showed up (per his instruction) to "finish her off" OR that this was a murder-for-hire arranged by Davey with people he seems to have no connection to, people who have no reason to stay silent about Davey's involvement, and people who also would have had to have "staged" the crime as a sexual homicide (the staging of which--if done by a thug robber) makes absolutely no sense. If done by Davey it makes a LOT of sense.

Do you think if those thugs DID enter the house (there is NO proof they did) and Amands was already shot and dying and they told officers that: "Oh geez officer, she was already shot when we got there) that they would be believed? Not a chance!

For all we know, Davey lured the thugs there to frame them. He would not have wanted them to enter the home and see Amanda laying there dying, so maybe he told one of them "drugs are in the mailbox" and he put Amanda's ATM card in the mailbox. Then Davey got what he needed--an image of one thug on video near the house as well as "evidence" they robbed his house with time-stamped ATM record coming from the use of Amanda's credit card. (Think of how important surveillance video seems to be to Davey and Co.). You think Davey may have besn smart enough to figure out howt to get one of those thugs to come to his maybe maikbox for a second to get the video image he needed to frame them?

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Anonymous mom2many said...
Me2I, do you think the lie story comes from a sermon? This is the second time I've seen you post about it in that context. The lie story comes from his old blog during college, which has been mostly replaced by the current blog. I haven't commented about the lie. I suspect much of the effect of this lie has been exaggerated on his part. Also, I think the family moving shortly after isn't likely related, but it could be if whatever happened impacted his father's ability to minister effectively.


No, I don't think his lie came from a sermon. There probably either was no lie at all or is greatly exaggerated, and over his short time in the ministry, he's no doubt used the story for dramatic purposes and illustrative effect. As I'm sure you're aware, this is not unusual....many pastors who have had a dramatic turning to God will cite their former sinful selves in sermons. In fact, I've heard a few who seem to dwell a little too much on that aspect of their lives. It does appear to appeal to audiences, though.

I think the thing that strikes me is how easily accepted the existence of The Lie is among commenters here, and I think the reason for that is it appears to corroborate and fulfill the narrative of Davey being capable of evil deeds and being "Crazy Davey."

I wonder about its very existence, but that calls into question others from his past and present who would/should apparently know.

Again, though, I've definitely heard preachers exaggerate, embellish, or fabricate events in their lives, and Davey, being an apparent narcissist, does not hesitate to have his own "truth" (Amanda did correct one of his lies by saying, "that's not true." He's not above doing that, and maybe he hasn't been contradicted or corrected that much in his life by people who surround him).

Peter commented regarding The Lie that deception was not apparent through his statement. If have to return to Peter's comment to be accurate, since I'm paraphrasing.

Me2l said...

Anonymous said...
Me2l,

That's hilarious, because I dont drink, and Im not the drunken Hydra. You are.



and you are who?

Anonymous said...

Anon@ 1:25, you don't know that there's no proof the thugs entered the house. Just another lie from another liar.

If you think the only evidence against the thugs is what's in the affidavit, you're a fool.

Anonymous said...

Taylor's phone was at 2812 Sunnyfield for 32 minutes. It doesn't take 32 minutes to get an ATM card out of a mailbox, anon@ 1:25. Your theory is far more stupid and convoluted than a murder-for-hire.

Me2l said...

If @1:25 is who I think it is, she has her own reality and makes up complete fantasy. I think this blog is an outlet for what she sees as her writing skills.

Anonymous said...

I'm starting to think the people trying so hard to take the heat off the thugs are friends/family of the thugs or work for the defense. What other explanation could there be for trying to convince everyone they were framed? Defense trolls.

Me2l said...

I think you're onto something. If I didn't know they don't have access to blogs like these (surely!), I'd swear they were posting here, trying to throw everyone off.

Anonymous said...

Me2l wrote


If @1:25 is who I think it is, she has her own reality and makes up complete fantasy. I think this blog is an outlet for what she sees as her writing skills.

Who gives a sh&t what you think? You are A) a huge liar and B) someone who doesnt even have one foot in reality and never will. I honestly am sick of your insults. Everything you have ever said or done regarding me has been so f&cking retarded, immature and pathetic. At this point, I will hold my tongue, because your behavior is literally the most idiotic, pointless, immature ball of sh&t to the point where it is so ridiculous and pathetic I cant even wrap my head around it because it's so stupid and pointless. Youre are also a misogynist which is hilarious and shows huge amounts of immaturity, , because literally most, particularly educated men, do not have the compulsion to put women down like they couldnt possibly be intelligent. You an are egomaniacal, narcissistic idiot. While you may have some intelligence, it is dwarfed by your immaturity and ridiculous behavior (behavior which is shockingly immature and nasty). You are like a skipping record of immaturity and unwarranted arrogance and emotional maladaption, and Im sick of talking to you. Computers and being online suck anyway and are boring as hell so you can just talk to yourself cause I prefer to go live in 3D reality which is actually fun and not the same old depressing boring shit of communicating through a screen, nevermind with someone who is rude to me. Have fun with your boring life!

Me2l said...

Oh settle down, troll.

Me2l said...

Hehehe

Still think I'm a man, but not just any man--your ex or someone. Good grief.

Anonymous said...

Dude, WHATEVER...Being online is so f&cking boring and you seem like you're always online, nevermind rehashing this case over and over. All of it: Being online and this case at this point...So f&cking boring. Literally being online is mind-numbingly boring. This case has been raked over the coals. Your stupid repetitive insults. Boring. Thats how you always were...everything was so depressing and repetitive insults and boredom bc nothing fun ever happened bc of you. Good luck. You live a very boring existence.

Anonymous said...

Then why are you here, Anonymous imbecile @6:02? Get off the internet and go live your super-exciting life.

Anonymous said...

WHAtEVer dude....hitting my thumb with a hammer would be more exciting and interesting than this. Your insults are a snorefest and being online is goddamn boring as ahit.

Trudy said...

It's a funny thing, but if crazy Davey told the truth about "The Lie" - he told a lie; and if crazy Davey told a lie about the lie - he told a lie.

Either way, he is a liar.

Me2l said...

That's right.

It just fits the narrative here better if he told The Lie, because that would mean he did something so horrible, it had far-reaching effects and predicted that he was such a deviant, he is capable now of murdering his wife.

That's the preferable lie to the commenters here, because it fits their storyline.



Trudy said...



"...and I think the reason for that is it appears to corroborate and fulfill the narrative of Davey being capable of evil deeds and being "Crazy Davey."

Lol. So wrong. For me, anyway, " The big Lie is WAY down the list of things that "appear to corroborate and fulfil the narrative of Davey being capable of evil deeds and being "Crazy Davey." " Seriously Me21, do you remember the shower convo with God? What about the "how's Weston doing?" blog where CD says Amanda's death couldn't have happened at a better time?

There are many things that CD has said and done that make me think he is crazy and capable of evil deeds. The big Lie hardly even registers on the psycho meter.

Trudy said...

It's interesting how people have different perspectives. In my opinion, believing CD told the truth about The Big Lie makes him look better.
He told his congegation about the Big Lie to help them, to warn them, and to show that he accepts what he did was wrong. He expresses sorrow for those he hurt.

If " the Big Lie is a lie, though, well that fits the assessment of his narcissitic sociopathy.

Trudy said...

Edit: ooops. I see mom2many says this came from a blog, rather than a sermon. The point still stands, though.

Anonymous said...

Oh my, that's so fascinating! If he lied, he lied, AND if he lied about lying he also lied! Let me put on my scuba gear, so I can dive into these deep, philosophical waters!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz said...

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Anonymous said...

How can you be bored by this "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"? Dont you want to know what his lie is? Maybe his lie divided a whole community when he told his coach he was eating peanut butter bagels for breakfast but he was really eating cinammon toast crunch on the sly? Can you imagine the fall-out?
Bobcat, PLEASE write that down! Oh and thank you SO much for your record-keeping!

Me2l said...

Trudy, no one said where the big lie's list priority is. There have been many discussions here about how it must have been something horrible to force the family to move and turn everyone against him. It's odd, though, that if it had such an impact, there is no one who can elaborate or remember it.

Me2l said...

Anon @8:21, that's pretty funny.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Me2l ;). I love when you laugh at my jokes and I really love a man who reduces his carbon footprint by eating vegan...who would have known you had it in you to be so very caring.

Trudy said...

Lol. Ok Me21. I don't know about the family moving because of The Big Lie, (although I have seen it speculated, here) but the fact that it turned everyone against him, comes straight from the horses mouth. If he is to be believed about TBL, he, himself, says it was of such gravity that it ruined his reputation with everyone; ergo, whatever it was it must have been horrible.

If it is not true, and TBL is a sort of Crazy Davey parable, or teaching tool, so what? He told a lie to make a point.

I don't know whether he lied about The Big Lie or not, (hang on, isn't there a principle in SA that says no man can lie twice? Lol. I don't really understand that principle) so it's definitely not "unanimously accepted onthis blog". Don't make the mistake of tarring everyone the same brush. Thanks.

dnd said...

A few people here are good at changing the subject and running people off. I wonder if it's on purpose so we quit asking questions that hit too close to home. We were talking about the SUV among other things and the conversation was completely derailed.

Trudy said...

dnd, that seems to happen a lot here. According to LE, a black SUV was captured on surveillance camera, entering and leaving the cul de sac @6:00. It was referred to in several media reports.

The timing makes it possible that it had something to do with the robbery.

There is a photo of Alonzo Bull sitting in a black SUV on his fb page. Alonzo is up to his eyeballs in this crime.

Me2l said...

Trudy and bobcat were discussing the SUV (I'm not sure anyone else was). So, everyone, shut the hell up so you won't derail conversations that matter by self important people whose fantasy theories matter.

K?

Trudy said...

Me21, that's nice. Actually, dnd brought up the black SUV, and yes, we were discussing it. Would you care to explain why the black SUV is a fantasy theory? Or, for that matter, why discussing it makes us "self important". Your hostility is mystifying. What on earth is wrong with you?

Trudy said...

For what it's worth, I don't think dnd was accusing you of derailing the discussion. I think it was derailed by the one(s) you call The Hydra.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone find a media report about the black SUV AND the 6:00 time?

It might be quiet until early tomorrow afternoon. The minions will be busy at Resonate.

Anonymous said...

Oh Bobcat, I'll get right on it. Is that a hole in your pristine record-keeping, the SUV time? We'll fix it honeypie.

dnd said...

11/23/15
http://m.wyff4.com/news/former-upstate-youth-pastors-wife-critically-injured-in-home-invasion/36384710#comment-2357061642


Hinch said neighbors also saw a dark SUV leave the area quickly.

He said televisions and other electronics were stolen in the burglaries, so investigators believe a vehicle was used.

We know the person caught on camera standing outside the home is the one who murdered Amanda."

12/29/15
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-murder-pastor-s-wife-amanda-blackburn-charged-2nd-killing-n487581

The men returned to the home, and, at some point, Amanda was killed. Neighbors said they heard gunshots about 6:45 a.m. and saw an SUV peeling out of the otherwise quiet street.

Trudy said...

I know it was mentioned by Hensch in the LE/ media presser. I think I read about it in the Indy Star, too. Sorry, no link. I remember an (I guess) erroneous report that said the black SUV was found where the Sebring was found. There might be some mileage in having a look at the "media, maps, timeline" for the Blackburn case, on WS. Some of the comments there are pretty interesting, too.

dnd said...


I can't seem to find any info on what time the SUV was seen, let alone who drove it. It seems to be an aside to the stories, only mentioning that is was seen



11/14/15

http://www.pulseheadlines.com/police-clues-amanda-blackburns-case/10522/


Also, a dark SUV was reported in the area, as neighbors reported hearing shots. Police officials say that they are handling other information that wasn’t revealed and they also stated that they will release the suspect’s photo and other images when forensics ended their analysis.

Anonymous said...

How come the only one who seems to be truly sad about Amanda dying is her Mom? I just watched about 20 minutes of Davey's crappy Q&A thing with the family. I don't need to be a human lie detector to see neither Amber or the father sound upset...Amber sounds perky and happy.

Anonymous said...

Davey sounds downright chipper about the whole thing.

Why would the Dad even say that "I'm the Big Papa in the middle of the whole thing"? He says it in a cheerful, laughing way like it was a fundraiser he planned or something..."I'm the Big Papa in the middle of the whole thing". What the hell?

Anonymous said...

The mother sounds genuinely sad and like she is grieving.

Amber does not.
Davey does not.
The Dad does not.

Trudy said...

Major Eric Hench from IMPD mentioned the time during the press release. (he's the one who also said, "you're not as good as you think you are...you left behind evidence and we will find it and we have found it.")

"At approximately 6:00, there was a camera from west of the burglarized home that captured a dark colored SUV driving quickly down the street. Approximately one minute later that vehicle was then seen leaving"

Anonymous said...

What is your frickin point about the SUV? Just come out and state it! Like I friggin get it--a dark SUV was caught on camera in neighborhood...how many times have you said it in only the past 5 hours? 12? Have you said it 12 times? What is your f&cking point?

Trudy said...

The SUV was driving down a street. Isn't that fascinating?! Oh my God I'm so excited!!! Hooray!!!

Trudy said...

Do you think Mr Hyatt will be impressed with my detective skills and give me an SA Detective Award?! I bet he will!!! Yipeee!!!!

Trudy said...

Um "Trudy" What are you doing? Why are you posting as me? WTH are you foaming at the mouth about? Lol

The black SUV is a perfectly cromulent topic for conversation.

Anonymous said...

What the f&ck does cromulent mean? That's a shitty word that I hate already.

Trudy said...

anon @ 1:15 Calm down. Don't you know a sense of humor embiggens the smallest man?

Me said...

The word cromulent is a delicious word. It's an elegant and stunning word. I am terribly sorry for my outburst.

notme said...

"embiggens" is a word that sucks.

Trudy said...

Lmao. I'm so glad that your humor bypass operation was a complete success!

Anonymous said...

You didnt pick up on my facetious, jesting tone? It seems you may be missing your sense of humor.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

Regarding fantasy theories:

No, the SUV sighting is not, in itself, a fantasy theory; the time spent on the phone as Amanda lay dying is not a fantasy theory; the unorthodox behavior after his wife's death is not a fantasy theory. None of the "evidence" collected and organized here is new or unknown to investigators, however. In fact, they probably have evidence no one commenting in this blog knows exists.

The fantasy theories come into play as amateur sleuths try to prove Davey guilty of murder, using their very limited knowledge of evidence and by incorrectly applying their understanding of SA and other analysis to DB.

I will guarantee no one here is going to "solve" the murder (it's been solved), nor is anyone here going to unearth new evidence by commenting on a blog

Anonymous said...

Someone posted on here that Davey is still collecting donations. I do not see that link although I did see it up until just maybe 2-3 months ago. It was front and center with a pick of Davey with Amanda squished up behind him. Where is it if still there? Should he really be collecting anything besides maybe a scholarship fund for Weston? Davey lives in a very large home. He has pool, a fire pit and what looks like very nice landscaped backyard. He is living larger than he has ever lived. He grew up with no money and he never made any money. (he still hasn't earned any money, just been given handouts) He now gets to take vacations that he was never able to take. He called AB not well-traveled but look at him jumping on airplanes every other week. He drove a 20 year old car that probably embarrassed him. He now drives a fancy SUV that he brags about in his sermons. Davey expected to get rich and powerful by preaching. His pastor friends and mentors were successful. He was not. He probably resented that his wife had to shop at garage sales to clothe Weston. He has been posting Snapchats of Weston with big new toys. This weekend he posted Weston playing with a large water toy table. He posted Weston bouncing in a new bouncy castle. He posted a giant toy room in his house with Weston playing with what looks like brand new toys. He has Weston constantly wearing propaganda t-shirts with Eyes of a Lion, Run toward the Roar, Skull Church, etc. Davey somehow feels like now he is this huge success and somehow he has earned this fortune and fame. This case cannot get any weirder. When this all comes tumbling down, what a movie this will make.

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Bobcat said...

It might be quiet until early tomorrow afternoon. The minions will be busy at Resonate.

September 24, 2016 at 11:44 PM


-----------------------------

Bobcat? dnd? Trudy? Various Anons? HISG? How were the services? Haven't seen a thing from you here. Are you still in the services?

Anonymous said...

I updated the timeline this morning.

I found the timed reference to the SUV entering and exiting the development.

http://case-discussions.blogspot.com/2016/09/timeline-of-events-surrounding.html

Anonymous said...

"I will guarantee no one here is going to "solve" the murder (it's been solved), nor is anyone here going to unearth new evidence by commenting on a blog"

Murder - solved (according to Me2l)

Murder-for-hire - possible

Me2l said...

I ask this routinely. Never get an answer. Does anyone here think they have evidence investigators do not?

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Me2:


No.


Peter

Statement Analysis Blog said...

In discussing this further, I've not encountered a single professional who thinks Blackburn did not have knowledge that his home was going to be hit that morning. As I travel, I continue to ask...

Most believe the truth will come out.

Many have stated that the gang members may not have knowledge of the home they were told to hit.

All have stated that even if they did, they would not talk and live prison life as a snitch...

the more seasoned law enforcement officials agree that Blackburn will eventually lose control and the truth will come out...perhaps years from how.

Bad Juju said...

Why the sudden interest in the SUV? I made a number of posts over the past few months about the SUV, including links to news stories, my thoughts on why the SUV is still relevant even though it disappeared from the police/media narrative, and how the timing might relate to Davey. But nobody gave a flip. My posts were ignored in favor of a bunch of garbage about the three suspects being framed and a million repetitive posts about LE not releasing the 911 call.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

said...
In discussing this further, I've not encountered a single professional who thinks Blackburn did not have knowledge that his home was going to be hit that morning. As I travel, I continue to ask...

Most believe the truth will come out.

Many have stated that the gang members may not have knowledge of the home they were told to hit.

All have stated that even if they did, they would not talk and live prison life as a snitch...

the more seasoned law enforcement officials agree that Blackburn will eventually lose control and the truth will come out...perhaps years from how.
September 25, 2016 at 3:15 PM



1. What could local investigation have consisted of to emphatically clear DB almost immediately?

2. SA and the team of analysts indicate DB has guilty knowledge. Do investigators in the case have access to someone who can professionally apply SA?

3. Being confident of DB's guilty knowledge, how can there be no way to follow up and further investigate?

4. Why do they not do a polygraph? Could there possibly be evidence no one is aware of, other than investigators, that convincingly eliminates DB?

5. In light of the consensus of seasoned investigators of DB's involvement, why is it not clear to Indy LE? Or is it?

6. Is DB good enough to outsmart LE? If it's a paid hit, wouldn't investigation reveal a money trail? A paid hit leaves evidence. DB had no access to ready money, so if he acquired cash in some way, how difficult could discovery be?

7. Is it possible investigators are focused on DB, or is it likely they consider the case solved?

8. If there is a way to implicate DB or someone else, would defense attorneys and the prosecution not be pursuing that in light of the trial?

9. If the 911 call incriminates Davey, what's the hold up with bringing him in for further questioning and investigation, such as a polygraph?

10. Has investigation been exhaustive, so now, as you suggested, is it a matter of DB stumbling and revealing himself even years from now? Is that all that's left?






Anonymous said...

Mel is either young and dumb and full of cum; OR old and dumb and full of sh!t; OR on this blog doing investigative work for DB. And because, in your mind, you are smarter than all commenters on this blog, why don't you give us the answers to your questions?Otherwise, why don't you use common sense to answer your own questions?

CJ said...

Thank you for the clarification, Peter.

Concerned said...

Thank you, Peter! at 3:11 and 3:15


Me2l at 4:32
You must be aware that Peter, if he had received the answers to your
questions directly from Indy LE, would not be able to tell you. He has professional
relationships in law enforcement to maintain.

My humble advice to you would be to calm down and let people discuss the case here.
To bicker with people who have a genuine interest in seeing justice done and also
with people who are not mentally well makes no sense. After all these months,
you surely realize you will not change their minds and they will not change yours.

There's an old saying, "If you always do what you always did, you always get what you
always got." You certainly don't have to take this advice, but you could be happier if
you just relaxed. God bless you.

Anonymous said...

"Is DB good enough to outsmart LE?"

Evil.

Anonymous said...

Exactly Bobcat! Evil is the magic word and the act of DB. IMO.

Anonymous said...

Concerned @ 5:59

It would not surprise me if soon Me2l realizes she has been defending the indefensible.

Trudy said...

Thanks for showing up Peter @3:11 and 3:15. What a relief!

Hahaha Me21. I bet you didn't expect that! Many of the questions on your list are the very same ones which you have continuously mocked people here for asking. Who do you think will answer you? Do you think someone here has evidence investigators do not? Why do you even ask?...when you can gaurantee that no new evidence will be unearthed by commenting on a blog? Hahaha. You, my dear, have been hoist on your own petard.

Anonymous said...

Concerned,

Peter has
made it clear
that
he is not
working
with IMPD
on this case.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Peter!!!

I think Me2l just needs to start his/her own blog about why they think the amazing Davey Blackburn is innocent! He has many fooled so there should be a following! Go away and do that please! Why hang out with those that think he is a big bag of lying crap! That must be frustrating.

Anonymous said...

Me21 at 4:32p, All of your questions are good questions to me. What I don't understand about a lot of your posts is baiting trolls/troll or baiting legit posters by being totally rude. Your pattern as a whole comes across as trying to distract or derail conversation so people give up posting. Why the questions then?

Concerned said...

Anon at 7:45
Yes, he has.

Anonymous said...

Is the brilliant Me2l trying to bait Peter? Pfft.

Anonymous said...

Who cares if Me2l is trying to bait Peter? Me2l is an internet troll who is too mentally crippled to function in reality, or doesnt have the balls to, or both.

Anonymous said...

"8. If there is a way to implicate DB or someone else, would defense attorneys and the prosecution not be pursuing that in light of the trial?"

By someone else, would that be:
Meg?
Perry?
Treezy?
Who?

---------

It could be, like your questions, one at a time.
They know the thugs won't snitch, and they have video and DNA evidence to take them to court...so why not get that done first.

In the meantime, let DB keep talking and talking and talking and talking, and put him on the witness stand (unrepresented) to talk some more under oath.

Put the thugs in prison. They can always be called to the witness stand in a later trial.

Then focus on DB and/or someone else.

-----------------

Do you know "someone else"? Does "someone else" have information that LE should know?

Me2l said...


Trudy said...
Thanks for showing up Peter @3:11 and 3:15. What a relief!

Hahaha Me21. I bet you didn't expect that! Many of the questions on your list are the very same ones which you have continuously mocked people here for asking. Who do you think will answer you? Do you think someone here has evidence investigators do not? Why do you even ask?...when you can gaurantee that no new evidence will be unearthed by commenting on a blog? Hahaha. You, my dear, have been hoist on your own petard.
September 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM


Why would I not expect Peter to "show up" and respond? I think it's excellent that he did. It's his blog, and all you anons may not be smart enough to know he knows (or could if he wanted to) who each one is and how many names you use to post. Are you surprised he "showed up"?

There you go, talking out your a** again. The questions I asked are ones I've always had, and I don't make fun of others for asking them. I make fun of you people for your utterly idiotic conjecturing, most of the time having nothing to do with SA or any other analysis, but rather, just crap you make up from thin air.

If you are so terribly threatened by someone who has questions and doesn't often agree with you, then how do you ever hope to discuss anything? You apparently feel rescued by Peter. What a strange reaction.

People say I'm rude, but I've never reached the level of rudeness extended to me by several of you, much of the time unprovoked.

So quit whining.

Anonymous said...

Oh gosh I bet people feel "threatened" by you...you pretend to be like 20 different people talking to each other...that's so tricky...and so clever and villainous...how manly! You're a real man lmfao!

Anonymous said...

You're so tricky! So so tricky!

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


Part 1 of 2

You raise some very legitimate questions for discussion Me21. I hope Peter has the time to respond.

1. What could local investigation have consisted of to emphatically clear DB almost immediately?
--Good question! I’d like to hear Peter’s input on this question in particular with his experience in case procedure. I would expect that interviewing Davey/family/friends regarding their relationship, reviewing Davey & Amanda’s financial records (as well as Resonate’s), reviewing Life Insurance policies, polygraphing Davey, evaluating social media posts, confiscating and investigating computer hard drives and other devices, subpoenaing cell phone records, etc. would be somewhat the norm given both the pregnant-wife murdered scenario and several well-publicized cases of pastors murdering their wives. If nothing else, as LE, I‘d want to shut out those defense options in terms of case building. So, is there more that LE does?

2. SA and the team of analysts indicate DB has guilty knowledge. Do investigators in the case have access to someone who can professionally apply SA?
--An assumption on my part here, but I'd think most LE Dept's have people well-versed in SA. However, SA may not always be readily acceptable as evidence in a trial by jury situation?

3. Being confident of DB's guilty knowledge, how can there be no way to follow up and further investigate?
--In this day of Casey Anthon-esque jury members and essentially juror stacking/manipulation, prosecutors can no longer count on jurors having the individual ability to apply reason, logic, and knowledge to evidence. I'm regularly told in my profession that most people are operating/processing on a third/fourth-grade education level...a scary thought at best!

4. Why do they not do a polygraph? Could there possibly be evidence no one is aware of, other than investigators, that convincingly eliminates DB?
--Given how much time has passed, three suspects in custody (one of which on video?), Davey’s/Perry Noble’s parlay to publicity for the “grieving single father widowed Pastor Nothing Is Wasted God told him personally in the shower that his wife died so the Church could live”, and the large number of unsolved Indy crime cases, polygraphing Davey now would be a questionable PR move without some degree of solid evidence to back it, IMO.

Foolsfeedonfolly said...


Part 2 of 2

5. In light of the consensus of seasoned investigators of DB's involvement, why is it not clear to Indy LE? Or is it?
--It may be clear/fairly clear to Indy LE, but without enough evidence for a solid conviction (particularly given the iffy-ness of juries to convict), state prosecutors may not be willing at this point.

6. Is DB good enough to outsmart LE? If it's a paid hit, wouldn't investigation reveal a money trail? A paid hit leaves evidence. DB had no access to ready money, so if he acquired cash in some way, how difficult could discovery be?
--I doubt that LE is taken in so much by Davey, but perhaps biding their time, with three suspects waiting in the wings. I think Davey’s need to keep the storyline rolling, continuously feeding and milking the cash cow will eventually be his undoing (not the comments/commenters here or on any blog site).
--DB did have access to ready money (the ATM withdrawal, the haul from the predictable neighbor’s early morning unguarded home likely provided money, and/or any monies from Amada’s furniture refinishing sideline business, any salaried money Davey was paid, etc.).

7. Is it possible investigators are focused on DB, or is it likely they consider the case solved?
--I have to believe that more seasoned Indy LE know that Davey’s oft-repeated story of that morning is scrubbed of identifying detail with regard to his morning interaction with Amanda (he neither attributes any visual or verbal interaction to her, yet he has never volunteered that Amanda was asleep when he left, even 10 months and multiple interviews and guest appearances later). He’s had numerous opportunities, yet he always begins with where he wasn’t and why.

8. If there is a way to implicate DB or someone else, would defense attorneys and the prosecution not be pursuing that in light of the trial?
--Defense attorneys work for their client, so if the Fab 3 are committed to Alonzo Bull at all cost, their defense attorneys simply may have little to work with. If this is a paid hit, likely the three underlings have little to no knowledge.

Anonymous said...

Me2l is a deceptive douche posting under the names Foolsfeedonfolly, Hey Jude, Trudy, Observer, Imagrandma, Sus, Turd Troll, Avinom Sapir Troll and many others. He's a liar and a sadist.

Trudy said...

Hahaha Me21, you got pwned, and now you're trying to backpedal, with your wide eyed "who me?" attitude. You have been insufferably rude to people who haveaskedthe very same questions that you posted, and you know it. Hahahaha. You don't threaten me in the slightest. Are you serious? You simply prove the old adage that all bullies are cowards.

Anonymous said...

But Trudy, you are Me2l. Are you too drunk to realize how unconvincing your different characters are?

Trudy said...

Thanks FFOF - good answers to questions many have been pondering for a while. To add to no. 6. it would not be the first time a contract killer was paid from the life insurance of the murder victim.

Trudy said...


Concerned @ 5:59, that is sound advice for Me21. I hope she takes it.

Anonymous said...

Gosh Trudy I thought you were Me2l, and since Me2l is "Concerned" as well, this is getting complicated! FREAKIN STUPID SHIT.

Me2l said...

September 25, 2016 at 11:29 PM
Trudy said...
Hahaha Me21, you got pwned, and now you're trying to backpedal, with your wide eyed "who me?" attitude. You have been insufferably rude to people who haveaskedthe very same questions that you posted, and you know it. Hahahaha. You don't threaten me in the slightest. Are you serious? You simply prove the old adage that all bullies are cowards.


Lol! I got pwned? Where? Care to explain? I don't feel pwned, nor am I backpedaling. Not my MO, and I never will, until I'm shown where I am wrong. That hasn't happened yet.

I have seen no one ask those questions, and as for rude, I can't compare to you.

As with everything else in this blog, you're reading into things only what you want, and erroneously, as usual.




Trudy said...

Lol. Ok Me21. Whatever you say. I guess you aren't going to be taking Concerned's advice, then. Oh well. Good luck.

Bingo3 said...

Peter, I too think he will lost control. He has money now but how long will it last with how he is living? He is living like a rock star. The big house, the pool, the car, the traveling, the new toys for him and Weston. He has moved to two services at his church not because they needed to. They have a curtain up at about the 8th row of a gymnasium. He moved to two services because his mentor and friends have several services on several campuses. His ego had to go to two services to compete with his friends. That will get tiring and expensive to try to do that every Sunday for a couple hundred guests. His church has grown a little but not a lot. It didn't grow before because DB is not a good preacher and he isn't sincere. He dresses like a 16 year old and his physique has gotten distracting. He is the star of his own show. People who come to church for their own healing and spiritual growth will grow tired of this rock star appearances. Amanda was the only pure and spiritual thing about Resonate and even she couldn't overcome Davey to grow the church. It will come crumbling down sooner rather than later. His little group of Resonators who he is taking on trips, providing living quarters and taking to fancy Monday night dinners will eventually grow weary of him, especially when the money dries up. The only speaking engagements he has been on are mostly family and old friends. I don't see that he has gone on any in a while. Could his book possibly do well? Doubtful. It may actually be his downfall as he travels to promote it and his stories get mixed up. This will not turnout well at all but justice for Amanda will be served. Maybe her story can actually impact lives once Davey is out of the way and in prison.

Bobcat said...

"Amanda was the only pure and spiritual thing about Resonate and even she couldn't overcome Davey to grow the church."

Bingo,
I disagree. There is good there, in spite of DB.

Bingo3 said...

Your right Bobcat! I was associating Resonate as being Davey and Amanda, because in the past they were the only nucleus according to Davey who said it was never the same membership.

Bingo3 said...

There are many at Resonate who truly do want to continue Amanda's legacy.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

Anonymous Trudy said...
Lol. Ok Me21. Whatever you say. I guess you aren't going to be taking Concerned's advice, then. Oh well. Good luck.


Lol. Ok HISG/Alexandra/Various.

No, I doubt i will take "advice" from someone who wants only like-minded opinions. So, Hydra, I guess you'll have to brace yourself, grin and bear it.

Me2l said...

Davey describes his reactions in the aftermath of Amanda's murder.

"For weeks I couldn’t sleep at night. For weeks I suffered with nightmares and forms of flashbacks. For weeks I was terrified to be alone, not knowing where my thoughts and emotions would take me. It was only by the grace of God that my heart could be stilled enough to get some rest over the first two months."

http://daveyblackburn.com/posts/how-do-you-deal-with-the-way-amanda-died

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