Friday, May 13, 2016

High Speed Video and Assault

How can something like this happen?

Consider the lack of self control exhibited at the end of the video.  This is something that, culturally, was very important to American parents:  delaying gratification and satisfaction in life by small, seemingly insignificant things while growing up taught boys self control. This was taught in school, in sports, and in morals, including sexual and even appetite, as self control was considered a virtue.  Culturally, this is no longer held by many, in high esteem.  These small lessons, learned in childhood, particularly when parents refuse to become indulgent, allowed for the adult to have a 'fighting chance' at restraining oneself both physically and emotionally.  

 Here is an extreme test that ended up in failure but must be understood in context. 

For about 1 hour, the MA cops were involved in a high speed chase.  This means that for almost one hour, they were in constant and incessant personal danger:  the hormonal increase is severe, similar to combat studies from World War II where high combat situations escalated to personal, hand-to-hand survival.  After the foe is killed, soldiers sometimes exhausted themselves in stabbing the dead body, in a 'blind rage' from the high level of hormonal activity to the brain. 

This high level of 'fight or flight' hormone, particularly, cortisol, is behind PTSD and the imprint upon the brain.   The imprint from even a few moments of elevated cortisol can lead to a life time of symptoms, including hyper vigilance, sleeplessness, depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation.  Rape victims, sexual abuse victims, close contact victims of violence, and some domestic violence victims who frequently go on "high alert" can suffer these symptoms, just as combatants can.  Recall the volume of explosives, in World War I, that led to "shell shock", where the body shook uncontrollably.  In Viet Nam, there were many reports of children who would shake, lose control over their bodily functions, and even freeze at the extreme noise level of an incoming bomber.  

We have seen many examples of reliable accounts of rape, for example, where the victim moved into present tense language, signaling possible PTSD like symptoms entering language. 

This offers no excuse for the lack of self control but allows for insight into the context, and later, the language of the officers, should they make a statement. 


Anonymous said...

This is a disgusting display of power, or as I call it, "An a**hole with a b*ner for authority".
I would expect this from a regular citizen. However, police officers should go through (if they don't already) extensive training to learn self control techniques for situations such as in the video. Each of these officers need to be held accountable for their actions, and their departments. If society consistently allows for police brutality without consequences, society will move to a police state with militarized control.

Parents need to be able to teach their children that the police are there for help, and not to be too terrified to reach out based on the history of the officers' actions.

Trigger said...

Self control is no longer a virtue in our society.

I have seen this move away from self control here in Kentucky. It is now common place for huge amplifiers to be used at high levels of sound for "rock music" to "loosen up" the self controlled parishioners, in an effort to get them "on the band wagon" of moving with the beat and clapping. Dancing in the isles seems to be desirable during church services these days.

This high level of "elation" is supposed to enhance the pleasure of the experience of "church going."

I've even seen people bringing dogs into wedding feasts, and the social meetings and turning them loose, without a thought as to the consequences or how is affects the guests.

Why should we expect our police to use self control when self control is being systematically "erased" from our country as old fashioned and out of date?

I hate it that police brutality like this happens. I hate it that any violence is condoned in our society, but here in the real world we have governments that use violence to "control" it's citizens with armed soldiers and cram "correctness" down our throats with threats of jail and punishment.

What is the difference between a corrupt government and the mafia? NOTHING

Unknown said...

I always defend police officers whenever video is posted - often out of context - but in this case I find it hard to side with the officers. Perhaps the suspect whipped through his home neighbourhood at high speed when school was out and that was what the officer was thinking,pummeling the suspect to exact "revenge" and "punishment" for the perceived wrong.

It crossed a line, regardless of the motivation.

rob said...

This is the very reason that we the citizens have to keep paying our tax dollars, by the million, to people that LE abuses.
Now some people get the money when LE was actually in the right, but by this video, the guy was obviously laying down to surrender.

Kathead said...

Parents nees to teach their kids to not grow up into little delinquents that try to outrun police officers.
This situation is lose-lose.

Kathead said...

Parents nees to teach their kids to not grow up into little delinquents that try to outrun police officers.
This situation is lose-lose.

Anonymous said...

is this Off Topic ? seemingly yes. No, it is not.

Paul Joseph Watson
Published on May 13, 2016

George Clooney is a total prick and a massive hypocrite.

Who is George Clooney when he is not stirring political pots
with countries/nations/peoples that hate us. He is a fund and vote conjuring machine. He is telling all 'who he is' or what he is? The latest prophecy of the future, who won't be our president, as he continues on and on, His powerful felt full of self, entitled of inside scoop ? Which is his spouse or the elite left, or they are the same ??

He (this video) speaking, he is the voice of " the people' his arrogant ego without humility, no shame.

He and his husband missed the memo, no one elected him spokesman.
He here feels his clout makes him Mouthpiece of the People of the United States.

He at the top of the crop, whose goal is destroying freedom of speech - he a leader of the destruction (US), he is recruiting followers, he is not seeking path makers to better the US.

He is a Traitor

Kathead said...

Peter, is there better video of this?
It is hard to see exactly what is going on. The officers spread out, I am assuming because they thought the suspect was going to run. They dog piled him to prevent it? Was he fighting them?

I've seen multiple officers holding down a suspect because they resisted and tried to bite, spit, and do whatever they could to the officers.

This situation isn't good. I'd like to see a different angle that isn't obscured by the light pole.

There is no excuse for an officer to punch someone. I do think people tend to forget Officers are human and when adrenaline is coursing through you, it's fight or flight. I'd like to see the arm chair quarterbacks walk in the shoes of an Officer for a day. I bet they'd manage to make some poor choices that would get them put onto the news.

Buckley said...

Donald Trump Denies Pretending To Be His Own Spokesman

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump denied on Friday that he ever used a false name to pose as a spokesman for himself — something he had been widely known to do for years.

During a telephone interview on the “Today” show, Trump responded to a Washington Post report detailing Trump’s attempts to call reporters using the false names John Barron or John Miller. The Post obtained a recording from one call with “Miller” that sounds an awful lot like Trump discussing his divorce with Marla Maples.

Trump denied it was him in the recording and called it a “scam.”

“I don’t know anything about it,” he said. “You’re telling me about it for the first time and it doesn’t sound like my voice at all. I have many, many people that are trying to imitate my voice and you can imagine that and this sounds like one of these scams, one of the many scams. Doesn’t sound like me.”

According to the Post, Sue Carswell, a reporter for People magazine, played a recording of “Miller” in 1991 to several different New York reporters who all said it was Trump. She also played it for Marla Maples, Trump’s ex-wife, who confirmed it was Trump.

When host Savannah Guthrie pointed out that reporters claimed Trump routinely called him under the pseudonym, Trump denied the claim again, then pivoted, questioning why Guthrie was asking him about it.

“No, it was not me on the phone, it was not me on the phone. And it doesn’t sound like me on the phone, I will tell you that, and it was not me on the phone. And when was this, 25 years ago?” Trump said. “Wow, you mean you’re going so low as to talk about something that took place 25 years ago about whether or not I made a phone call. I guess you’re saying under a presumed name.”

Trump then asked to move on to a different topic.

The Post pointed out that Trump’s alter-egos offered a way for the business mogul to generate positive coverage about his love life and business interests in the press without actually boasting of them himself.

Lis said...

It's disappointing to see these men give in to their impulses like that.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

They weren't out of control! Look, they held back, guns drawn, waited until he was on the ground and THEN they beat the shit out of him. That shows premeditation to me; they waited until it was clear he didn't have a gun and then they got their punches in.

Habundia said...

Parents need to teach their kids that cops can be liers and that they never speak to them without parents or other adult (like attorney) is present, to protect themselves of saying things because they maybe not know exactly what is being need to be protected by cops ALWAYS (even if they did something dont have full developed brain so they need someone to guide them even if they did the crime)

Habundia said...

I would (government) is being legal (at least they made the rules so they can used it as they like)....other (mafia) isnt...that would be a differents to me

Habundia said...

Ive seen many of those vids throughout my life of cops beating in to people who already were lying on the ground and had surrender....i do get the fact that people getting adrealine when avolved in a car chase, but at the same time i do expect professionality from people who had schooling for their job and probably had practice.situations like thes often in class (at least you would expect they would have had because they became cops, that isnt just a job at the supermarket....its.a job with responsibility and dangers so you need to be prepaired to get out to do a good job without becomming a victum themselves