Friday, July 18, 2014

Russian Denial of Shooting Down Plane

“In view of various types of speculation concerning operations of the Russian armed forces in the areas bordering Ukraine, we affirm that the anti-aircraft means of the Russian armed forces did not operate in that region on July 17."

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28 comments:

Anonymous said...

Idk what to make of that. I need someone better at SA to analyze it.

They have taken over areas IN Ukraine, if I'm not mistaken, so maybe "in the areas bordering Ukraine" and "in that region" are deceptive?

Anonymous said...

Also, this might be a stupid question, but are the rebels actually considered "Russian armed forces"?

Anonymous said...

Pro-Russian Rebel Commander: 'We Did Warn You — Do Not Fly in Our Sky'

http://mashable.com/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-ukraine-russia-rebel/

john said...

Ukraine-Russia Row Over Who 'Shot Down' Plane
President Putin calls for a ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict after 298 people, including nine Britons, are killed in a jet crash.




http://news.sky.com/story/1303136/ukraine-russia-row-over-who-shot-down-plane

Anonymous said...

anything is possible, I really can't tell what happened, but I still strongly suspect the plane was brought down by remote.

even if they could prove it was shot down by missile -- there is still the question WHY was it flying there. a commercial plane flying over a no fly combat zone. it makes no sense. Malaysia airlines did not intend for it to fly there. something happened beyond it being "shot" down - if it was indeed shot down - somebody diverted the plane to where it would be believeable that it would be shot down.

Anonymous said...

there were a lot of scientists on the plane. says a report.

Anonymous said...

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2014/07/mh17-lies-already-falling-apart-ukrainian-govt-messes-up-like-msm-us-govt-did-on-911-2464132.html

I'm not sure what happened. or what I yet believe. but I think it's worth considering these alternative news responses, already pointing out suspicious details --

Anonymous said...

I thought that it actually, for some strange reason, wasn't a no fly zone?

Anonymous said...

there are a lot of details, but to give the theory in extreme brevity: rothschilds are a family who own most (at least half) of the worlds wealth, they have central banks in almost every country in the world, following 9/11 they put central banks in two of the biggest hold outs, Iraq and afghanistan riding on the tail of our invasion of those countries. they OWN the federal reserve. so they own america in essense. (look it up) back in ww2 era they loaned money to all sides of the war and in many ways orchestrated the war to be a huge world war, this was all for monetary profit, their loans were guaranteed and the more war the more debt. the more of the world they own. the theory is they are trying to do it again by starting WW3. apparently owning half the world insn't enough they want it all. theories of how they are attempting to do this exist almost entirely off mainstream - surely in part due to fact that they own all major media. but the basic history of their clandestine financial stronghold is well documented.

so when something major and tragic and potentially ignigting a world war happens -- there are a lot of reason to look for Rothschilds connections. (also Rothschilds are represented by many groups which they own/control - CIA, Israel, CNN, Obama. prob a lot of hollywood and music industry, and more. but not everything and not everybody. when I first figured it out I couldn't believ it - it sounded like a fantasy, and just not true. but enough research and scouring many many sources -- I see it's true.

Anonymous said...

I don't know for fact that it was a no fly zone, I assumed as much if they rebels were supposedely saying "we told you not to fly here".

I guess it was a place where there was battle, which I'd define as a no fly zone if i were a comercial airline. I know there were questions as to why the plane took that path.

Anonymous said...

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-loses-relatives-2-malaysia-air-disasters-102012283.html

Anonymous said...

I hear you. I'd assume it was a no fly zone too. As usual, there are conflicting reports.

Anonymous said...

http://news.yahoo.com/says-spokesman-aboard-crashed-jetliner-093750869.html

yeah, we'll have to sift through report as it all unfolds. apparently there were a lot of aids researchers on board as well as spokesman for wold health organization. creepy. as there's lots of theories that nwo will starts with a virus.

eh, I dunno.

nice to know you see the mk untra thing too!

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1QYfET1YVk

heartbreaking, & most believeable theory about crash I've seen yet,

Anonymous said...

http://news.yahoo.com/aids-conference-attendees-downed-malaysian-jet-003927115.html

this is nor first time aids pioner killed in suspicious plane disaster

Anonymous said...

http://www.aidshealth.org/archives/news/obama-budget-decimates-global-aids-funding

Anonymous said...

in refference to previous post...

speaking of Bush sitting in classroom as planes hit, anybody else realize the words the kids are reading!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gllsgu1HoFA

Kite
hit
plane
steel
must

Anonymous said...

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, I think it's too early for us to be able to guess what the intentions of those who might have launched the -- this surface-to-air missile might have had. The investigation's going to be ongoing, and I think what we'll see is additional information surfacing over the next 24 hours, 72 hours, the next week, the next month.

excerpt from transcript from today - gotten from washinton post. I think it's notable that he can't say launched the missile - he stops, pauses and then says "this"...

Anonymous said...

the grammar isn't even right

Anonymous said...

here's the source:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-obamas-statement-on-ukraine-and-gaza/2014/07/18/a3224560-0e8c-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html

Anonymous said...

speaking of MK ultra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLA0ofsu0Qg

new chart topper sia has mind control brainwashing, torture imagery in every one of her videos, heres the most blatant.

Anonymous said...

Guaranteed obama & handlers gonna try to use this to justify war with putin. we gotta do everything possible to refuse war over this plane crash.

Anonymous said...

Omg jack lew treasury secretary obama associated with caterpillar is making laws that make all us major corporations more vulnerable to foreign takeover. its all over wsj. they are like - whats wring with jack lew. hes in the program is what.

BostonLady said...

Rothschilds, Illuminati, blah blah blah. Nothing more than conspiracy theories. That is not what happened with this tragedy.

The area where the plane was shot down was NOT in a no fly zone. It was voluntary for each airline to decide if they were going to fly thru that area. The United States had already stopped flying there since the fighting began.

It was not an accident that this plane was shot down. At 33,000 feet someone had to have radar and know. On Twitter there was some posting of satellite pics of the Buc launcher being moved into place by the pro Russians.

I believe it was done intentionally.

BostonLady said...

“In view of various types of speculation concerning operations of the Russian armed forces in the areas bordering Ukraine, we affirm that the anti-aircraft means of the Russian armed forces did not operate in that region on July 17."

Interesting. The Russians affirm that the anti aircraft means did not operate in that region. There are other types of missle launchers. They didn't say "We did not do it". That is the most direct statement they could have made. Instead they opted for a wordy way of saying nothing.

Also, they reported in the negative which makes this sensitive.

BostonLady said...


U.S. Points to Russian Missile Connection in Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Crash

New U.S. intelligence assessments indicate that Moscow likely provided pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine with sophisticated antiaircraft systems in recent days, matching evidence put forward by Ukraine and bolstering charges that Russia was the source of the weapon that shot down Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -11.11% Flight 17 this week, killing 298.

U.S. officials say they now suspect that Russia supplied the rebels with multiple SA-11 antiaircraft systems by smuggling them into eastern Ukraine with other military equipment, including tanks.

Further, U.S. officials believe the systems were moved back across the border into Russia following the shoot down of the jetliner, buttressing what Ukraine charges is an attempt by the rebels and their Russian advisers to cover up their involvement in the crash.


http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/u-s-intel-points-to-russian-rebel-missile-connection-in-malaysia-airlines-flight-17-crash-1405816389-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwOTExNDkyWj

Anonymous said...

I dunnno if it was shot down and if so by who. but I say -- be warry of how us tries to use it for their military interests. they are already claiming it puts eurpose on their side against russia. I think we can all agree, even if put supplied a missile and thats the missile that hit the plane -- it's not an intentional act of war and it's not a reason for a world war.

Anonymous said...

I dunno if rothschilds had a hand in this or not, but if not, bet they are kicking thelselves saying -- that shoulda been us making that happen. why is random luck stealing our thunder,