Thursday, May 19, 2016

Amanda Blackburn Murder Part Three: Ideology and Deception

While pregnant, Amanda Blackburn and her pre born child were murdered.  
The husband, Davey, made many statements and was interviewed on television shortly after the murder.  

 Police eventually arrested and charged 3 gang members with her murder.

Blackburn, as husband, had a strong alibi:  he was at the gym when the home invasion and murder took place. 

 It appears that he was not polygraphed

His language shortly after the murder shocked the public.   

I have heard two dismissals of Blackburn's words, both using the ideology:

1.  He did not grieve his losses and concentrated on numbers because he loves lost souls so much.  

This was to defend his bizarre language using the ideology.

the second is equally wrong:

2.  His language was due to his ideology.  It is not that he is showing guilt, or even a need to be found among others in a plurality to assuage guilt, it is just that he sees himself and his 'god' in such close proximity that it went into the intuition of pronouns. 

Both of these claims dismiss the analysis due to the ideology that Blackburn affirms.   


Both of these claims are wrong as I will exhibit in this lengthy article about ideology.  

To understand much of the language used by the victim's husband in the Amanda Blackburn murder, it is essential to grasp the ideology.  This is true in any analysis, though it is often not noticed until a cold case is presented:

Ideology; culture; behavior; language.  The language is not reality, but the subject's verbalized perception of reality.  

I will give an overview (general) of the ideology first, 
then, I will raise the question:  

Is the husband's affirmation of this ideology done in a deceptive manner? 

 Lastly, I will bring forth analysis of his language, while referencing the ideology in a separate article. 

Why? 

Why the need to show the ideology first?

It is more than to just understand his language; which is important enough. 

There is something far more important in this murder case where the statistics tell us that when a pregnant woman is murdered, the number one suspect is the husband/father of the child. 

Much of what the victim's husband has said has been dismissed due to the ideology that produced it.  This is to show ignorance, both of criminal analysis, and of the personality embracing a specific ideology who deliberately exploits it.   Here, we will take a basic look at the ideology and then the subject's view towards the ideology and how this may impact the analysis.  

The central question is this:

Is the subject honest or  deceptive, regarding his use of the religious ideology that he publicly espouses?

Is he honest about it?  This is vital for analysis of this case; not is he 'incorrect' about any part of the ideology, but is he deliberately altering, deleting, adding, or outright changing that which he states is unalterably divine?  To affirm divine origin is not only to affirm inerrancy, but it is to hold something to a level of "sacred"; that is, set apart from all else.  

Is he, somehow, deceptive, which means, 'knowingly' changing the ideology for a specific purpose. Is this purpose narcissistically based? 

 If so, it provides strong insight into his personality and subsequent language.  


In researching this element, these factors must be present:

*The ideology must be believed (and stated) to be of divine origin.  This means it is unchanging truth, given to us by God, and cannot be changed or altered to fit human opinion.  Truth, by definition, is not impacted by external influences, including time.  For what I am looking for here, the premise must be that the ideology of the victim's husband is that it is divine truth which cannot be altered.  

What type of personality element can claim that their ideology is of divine origin yet alter it, or even have a need to alter its presentation, in spite of believing it to be divine? 

*The alteration must not an error, misunderstanding, or disagreement.  The alteration must be deliberate.  

If one says "this ideology is divine" and then adds, subtracts or does any alteration of it, in application, presentation, or core belief, the personality is being revealed to the audience, and where the self places his view in comparison to divinity.  In a murder case, it is vital.  

It is as to say, "God is good; but I, that is, me, myself, I am better" in a sense of narcissism that is all but impossible to contain, even by the most talented egotists.  The filter simply gives way once he enters the free editing process of speech where he chooses his own words.  

Question for consideration:  Does Blackburn alter the ideology, in any way, to fit a specific agenda that belongs uniquely to him?

This alteration can be in design, scope, presentation or application, but it must be deliberate, of which I offer a few examples, which would then allow us to gain some insight into the personality.  

We also need to have a basic grasp of the ideology to understand the language in a deeper, more concise manner for the purpose of analysis.  

By understanding the ideology, we may be given insight into personal conflict within the victim's husband.  

This now will give you insight into the element within the personality.  We must step  back in ideology, and then on to the subject's variant on this ideology including any cultural 'adjustment' or compatibility towards it.  This, alone, will provide insight into the personality and temperament of the one person who has done much to foster suspicion that he is connected to the murder, though the case may be 'closed' by police. 

Please consider that everyone is under the influence of an ideology whether we embrace it or not.  

If you were raised in "Western civilization", Judeo Christianity, as an ideology, shaped your own thinking, inherited from your parents, who inherited this from their parents, and so on, regardless of the element of "faith" or personal conviction. Even if you do not believe in either Judaism or Christianity, you are a product of a Judeo-Christian culture, that is, the practical and measurable outworking from the ideology from the Bible. 

 It does not mean you believe in the Bible nor claim to be Jewish or Christian.  It means you were raised in a culture that had its roots in the Bible's ideological positions, even as, generationally, the culture shifts further and further away from it.  Today, it may be fair to estimate, Judeo Christian ideology is no longer the influence it has been, but in many ways, it is even despised, even as some have altered it to make it culturally compatible.  Yet, even in a 'post Christian' generation, its influence remains with us.  The fascinating element of this alteration is that they still claim the ideology to be "divine", meaning, it needs no change, no dressing up, no persuasion, and so on, to be relevant because the divine message, if divine, is perfection, and without "need to persuade" found outside itself.  

In other words, if it is divine, those who alter it, even if in presentation, are showing great weakness.  They either do not believe it is divine, or...

they note that 'divinity needs help' and you can guess just who it is who is bright enough to offer divinity a hand.  

Now, if divinity 'needs help', can you guess the personality that is willing to 'fix divinity' to make it relevant or culturally compatible today?

This is essential in understanding the history of thought (and language) and where specific arguments come from.  

For example, if you dwell in relative safety between your neighbors on the left and neighbors on the right, this may be due to a cultural external adherence to "thou shalt not" of Judeo Christian thought.  To dismiss this as 'common sense' is to deny one's own history and to show ignorance of how others, in other cultures, think about this.  

Here is a more practical and easier to spot example:  

While at work, when you are insulted or humiliated and withhold your anger, it is as a result of culture which was shaped by an ideology that prized self-governing of your emotions.  You presented an idea at your work in which one person disagreed and when you asked him why he disagreed, he ridiculed your appearance, or some arbitrary position, while avoiding giving any practical reason for his disagreement.  

You remained silent and were viewed as 'strong' in your position; admired by coworkers. 

Other ideologies (and the subsequent cultures) would not admire you for your restraint, but would hold you in contempt for your weakness.  This is a basis of the Islamic ideology and its impact upon eastern culture.  What we saw in Cologne was not so much misogyny, (though rape is) but a powerful contempt of European men who are incapable or unwilling to protect their women, lest they be called names such as 'racist' or 'right wing' or now, the new insult, 'nationalist.'

The same event has two very different opinions due to differing cultures, which are due to very different ideologies which impacted the cultures.  

When you show a sense of justice; you are not a 'blank slate' of 'new ideas' but as a result of your upbringing, your parents' upbringing, their parents' upbringing, and so on and how they were influenced by the world around them.   Example:  

The 'West' loves children.  Think of 'nativity' scenes where they bow down before a child in a manager, and how they talk of childhood innocence and such.  This is juxtaposed next to Islamic nations where children are human shields, strapped with bombs, or used for propaganda purposes by migrants.  

This photo is upsetting to the western mind.  To the Islamic mind, there is nothing wrong, nor inappropriate about it, and they question why this would upset any western male.  To them, it is the cultural outworking of the Koran's teaching of the value of woman.  


Iconic photo of Islamic culture invading Europe 

All throughout northern Africa, the middle east and parts of Asia, women and children are denigrated culturally even though these are different peoples, nations, tribes and languages. What is the common denominator?  The ideology;  Islam.  

Westerners project their culture onto a people who hold the ideology of the west in contempt.  It does not work. 

Let's take a look in American culture and ideology and see the waning influence of Judeo-Christian thought. 

Another example is the Titanic Society that heralded the "women and children first" ideology that is distinctly opposite of the dominant Islamic ideology that encompasses much of the world.  The notion that "women and children" are placed first is due to the physical weakness of both.  Rather than "survival of the fittest" (including Marxism today), the distinctly Judeo-Christian thought is that when one is given strength, he is expected to sacrifice his strength to protect those without.  This was the historical definition of "masculinity" that arose from the ideology.  A "patriarchal" society, in this definition, meant that the male sacrifices for the female.  It has been redefined to mean male exploitation of the female, as ancient ideological beliefs are now replaced with "more progressive" beliefs, which are not, as claimed, new to history.  



Here is a rather superficial example, yet for analysis, it is important. 

In the late 50's, Elvis shook his hips on TV and was roundly condemned for being "vulgar" because the culture (outworking of ideology) felt that sex was personal and private.  The word "obscene" means 'off-stage' or 'private.'  Today, this same video clip is used for humor to ridicule another culture.  It was not that sex was wrong, it was private and the performer was mimicking in public that which the culture held as private.  It was 'in the wrong place' but not wrong, itself.  
Not exactly Madonna's dog 


Let's say you were assigned a cold case of a murder where the subject was a young teenager when he heard his parents' anger at Elvis on The Ed Sullivan Show.  He was impacted by something you are not impacted by.  You need to enter the 'shoes' of the subject who was raised to believe that Elvis was, in deed, vulgar, though you, the reader/analyst, may not personally agree.  If you cannot 'see' what the subject 'sees', you might completely miss valuable elements.  This was the recent work done by our top analysts in a cold case murder investigation of which I expect a conviction.  

When a pregnant woman is murdered, statistics point to the husband/boyfriend/father of the child.  

To understand the language of Davey Blackburn, look at:

1.  The ideology
2.  The culture
3.  His public reaction to the ideology
4.  His public reaction to the culture 
5.  Any contempt of the ideology.  

Remember: he is a professional public speaker.  His business is that he sells an ideology and has stated his desire to see his audience grow.    

Then, take yet another look at his language:  It is intended to be understood.  When he was alone, and used the word "we", it was not a signal of psychosis, nor was it a belief that it was him and Jesus.  This is a bit of a journey, but for those who wish to learn analysis, it is indispensable.  It is why I have been prompting study of Islamic ideology, Islamic culture, and the criminal outworking of both.  It is an excellent exercise for those who wish to become analysts.  Listen to Dr. Nicolai Sennels, for example, as a criminal psychologist who treats Muslim men in Dannish prisons.  He was given an amazing education over the years as he learned that their thinking and subsequent impulse was nothing like his own nor the average European.  I disagree, personally, with some of his ideology, but respect his study.  

Those who, for example, can only project their own thought and culture, cannot work cold cases from yesteryear when culture was different from our own. (they fail for a variety of reasons not listed here but of the same theme:  projection).  The dramatic shift (rapidity) today, whether due to political influences and/or the speed of transmission of information, means we must adapt to analyze.  

You must hear Blackburn from Blackburn's own language. 

I ask readers to attempt to understand this ideology apart from any personal belief or faith.  No disrespect is intended in the language, nor in the punctuation.  It is an attempt to bring understanding and clarity to 'enter into the shoes of the subject.'  

Exercise 

I would like all readers to consider, for this analysis,  that Judaism and Christianity are utterly false superstitious stories in an attempt to explain that which cannot be explained, though every human asks the question as to "why" they are in existence.  I want them to view the ideology separate from belief, faith, loyalty, and so on.  This is an exercise for analysis and it is about moving deeply into language; language nurtured by culture, born of ideology.  It is a hypothetical exercise, similar to what we do in expectation to every statement we approach.  

 What you are being asked to do is this:

Is Davey Blackburn, husband of murder victim, Amanda Blackburn, true to the ideology he sells, or is he one who knowingly and purposefully does 'violence' to the ideology to pursue his own personal goals and agenda? 

This is not "Is Blackburn perfect?" as a question.  No human is. 
This is not "Is Blackburn correct in his understanding?" as a question. 

 The best human beings fail in all things in life.  These failures are spectacularly published when one claims to be a Christian though they are the failures that the accusers, themselves, participate in without public reproach.  

 When you meet a perfect family, you are meeting one that hides their frailties well.  When you hear of the perfect marriage, you are hearing elements of fiction.  The Bible's books that are biographical are considered unique as they never present anyone (sans Christ) in a perfect (or even good) light whereas biographies throughout history have traditionally been white washed, lest they are "tabloid tell alls" of today.  

We are in a murder case analysis. 

 It matters not if we disagree about this understanding or that understanding.  We are interested in his understanding, the subject, himself, and what he does (or does not) do with it.  I see the evidence of emotion in the comments of this case. There is deep shame, embarrassment, anger over misrepresentation, as well as the usual anger of believing this to be a miscarriage of justice. 


The Basic Ideology 

It is difficult in choosing the distinctives within this ideology, so I have chosen some basics, and, most deliberately, I have chosen some that are provocative as they are in direct opposition to what is culturally accepted today.  This is vital to our analysis:  where the ideology is in conflict with popular opinion today. 

Short Historical Sketch 

In the middle east, a man of no renown, education, money, nor place in society, stepped into the pages of history and made stupendous and exhaustively intolerant claims.  This was more than 20 centuries ago, predating modern methods of communication, including the printing press, cameras, video and the internet.  Word of mouth and carefully copied parchments alone would rehearse his biography and ideology. 

He claimed that the entire religion of the tiny nation of Israel, "Judaism" was all about him.  He claimed to be present at creation where it is written "Let us make man in our image" (Elohim, plural), in the establishment of all living things.  He claimed that each book in the collection of ancient works that had been used to construct the tiny nation's laws, were written about him and that each ceremony and even historical event, reflected, mirrored or had at its essence, him. He claimed that predictions made, over the course of centuries, in different languages and by different authors, was accurately fulfilled in him, from his birth, exact geographical location, chronology,  betrayal, trial, to the actual detailed forensics of his death, hundreds of years prior to the event.  He claimed to be the unique fulfillment of every prediction.   

To have such an impact as He has, we note his His career was very short; about 3 years.  He claimed not simply to know God, but to be God, as the unique Son, and this, his view point, was utterly intolerant. He claimed to be the exclusive avenue of access to God and that every other means was to indicate deception and fraud.  

He also made historical predictions, including the destruction of the famous temple, and the utter description of Jerusalem, 70 AD, by Titus of Rome, giving both dating and detail which, 40 years later, happened as predicted.  

He gave revolutionary ideas to the small crowds and the distinctions are well known.  Justice would be limited and mercy endorsed.  We grew up, whether we believed (faith) in this ideology or not, influenced by it.  Our nation was founded upon its influence and its influence was in all of the textbooks of the schools, as well as in the legal language of the founding (s) of the country.  Oaths of allegiance were sworn to him by those elected as rulers and even in the legal language of colony, territory and state constitutions, he was referenced. 

He taught and upheld the Old Testament (Judaism) and His explanation of its meaning, pointing to Himself as the fulfillment of all the promises, and then gave explicit instruction to 12 men to spread His message.  He predicted his trial, death and that he would live again.  

On the third day after his illegal trial and execution, eye witnesses claimed to have seen him, at different times, and by different numbers of eye witnesses.  This added a little more than a month to his overall short career.

This poor obscure blue collar man from the middle of nowhere, 20 centuries ago,  claimed to be complete "king" over every nation on earth.  His rule was also laid out:  his followers were to spread His ideology by example of doing good to others, with the consequence of rejection being eternal rejection, but not temporal, nor violent.   

The entire Western world was forged with this powerful and revolutionary ideology.  To "treat one as you want to be treated" was, in history, something that was revolutionary and in lands where it was accepted, progress was seen.   The list of "thou shalt nots" put great restraint upon mankind.  Even the "eye for a eye" was shocking, as it limited justice in a most violent and dark world.  He predicted that his followers would be hated and persecuted, which began in earnest shortly after his death and was the norm for more than 300 years where those who held to this ideology suffered horrific deaths.  Even so, the ideology grew. 

  He was obscure and his local fame, numerically small, was resented by politicians and religious leaders who felt the best way to end the revolution was to kill him.  This became the norm for society, including the powerful Roman empire who would, for hundreds of years, make those who embraced (faith, belief) the obscure man's ideology, targets for violent and cruel death.  Eventually, a merger of his ideology and Roman culture took place.  

How violent was the world outside of this ideology?

Did you see the movie, "Gladiator"?  In one seen, after a brutal battle in which the Roman legion invaded Europe for the purpose of exploitation, the lead character, a general, was asked what he wanted to do next in life.  He stated that he wanted to go home and raise crops with his wife and son, of whom he had not seen at length.  As an invader of foreign lands, he said that he had "seen the rest of the world and Rome is the light!" 

Rome had many Jewish slaves and were influenced by the ideology that came from Israel.  If you view the complex ceremonial descriptions you see the basic ingredients of soap, for example.  In the movie, we view Rome as 'horribly violent' with the multitudes enjoying violence as entertainment and the brutal chattel slavery as its norm.  Yet, this movie had much historical and linguistical accuracy.  Rome, which had brutal slavery, was not as dark as the rest of the world. The ancient world was far more violent.  As the Judeo-Christian ideology spread, things changed, but where there was little or no Judeo-Christian ideology there was almost indescribable brutality.  
The search for Dr. Livingstone

Early slave traders, fame seekers, missionaries and those who simply loved exploration, wrote first hand accounts of African villages that is close to being unreadable.  The writers were of varying motive, which makes it better for us to read, but what did they write?  What was the world outside of this ideology like?  A typical description of a village in Africa, for example, showed that slavery was the norm, with 70% of a village in slavery, and that food stores had specific meat selling, with human meat being the most expensive.  One slaver-wanna be wrote that he watched a fat girl run through a pathway where men jumped her, tore her apart, and ate her alive.  Another wrote that one wealthy owner was having friends over for a dinner and did not have enough meat.  His most loyal slave volunteered to be the host's main course, due to his 'devotion' to his master.  


They found no books, no poetry, no literature, no plays, theaters, hospitals, nor schools, and this was similar wherever in the continent they landed.  Missionaries lamented that they could not convince the native Africans "thou shalt not kill", as it seemed bizarre and silly to them.  The cruelty they exhibited one to another, especially to children, was unwatchable, but it was their norm. If a baby developed teeth in one side of her mouth before the other, she would have to brutally killed to appease the 'gods' they feared.  Although locale by locale the beliefs changed, brutality and filth, with little reverence for life, was the same.  The white man who came as a missionary was targeted by the Africans because, they learned quickly, he was destructive to the lucrative slave trade.  He was targeted by Africans, Arab slave traders, and European slave traders besides the general danger from cannibalism that was the norm in the entire continent.  Please consider the number of missionary deaths, including family, as well as their testimony of celebration over just one convert to their ideology.  This is something Christians point back to proudly, and must be compared to Blackburn's anger at his followers' failure to meet his pre-set target for numbers "even though" some people professed conversion.  This was stated in the form of minimal comparison, structurally.  It also showed what topic (failure) would produce the pronoun "I" for him.  


If European descendants wish to consider themselves superior to the Africans, one only need to consider some of the testimonies of the Roman invaders to see filth, brutality, and 'the law of the jungle', that is, the survival of the strongest, to know that my background, Irish, for example, without the influence of Judeo-Christian ideology, was as brutish as any other in Europe, which was similar to the barbaric African.  

In fact, this beginning is something we all share in common.   

As this obscure middle eastern man's ideology spread, it was accepted, in measure; (some higher measure, some lower), while some mixed with the local culture.  Improvement in life was slow, but steady, with some setbacks, errors and then recoveries.  

Yet, today, the world around us has been utterly shaped by the ideology presented, so much so, that it divided the world into 2 basic parts:  those areas that accessed his ideology and those which did not.

In general, those that had this ideology went on to create "Western civilization" with advances completely beyond any and everything else, especially at the major turning point of the Reformation, including:

Equal rights,  innovation, freedom, Shakespeare, Architecture, Music, Bach and Beethoven, justice, dignity, human rights, and led to the most bizarre human experiment ever conducted;  the founding of a new nation, of all immigrants, that would come to, in short order, be the most dominant and powerful nation in history. This was unprecedented.  America stood alone having its foundation from the flow of intelligence out of England, where the early charters of the settlements (colonies, states) professed loyalty to the single middle eastern man who lived almost 2000 years prior, and had the short, 3 year career.

It is interesting to note that innovation, itself, is prized by western civilization, while Islamic nations see the 7th century as the "golden age" and hold no noble thoughts of innovation, outside of pragmatism.  

This does not mean that everyone was Christian, nor even claimed to be,  but that the basic ideology drove the general population, while the nations and continents that did not have this ideology, did not advance, but remained well behind, impoverished, rife with criminal violence, and so on.  The "Protestant Work Ethic" became a driving force of innovation and the age of exploration was fueled not only by the desire for wealth, but under this sole man's marching orders to spread his message to the utter parts of the world.  Some went out to spread the message, while others, under the guise of spreading the message, went for wealth, no matter how gained, including theft and murder. 

In history, killers and despots have used the ideology to justify killing and abuse, but this, too, was in contradiction to the ideology.   Even the rules of engagement in war, how Prisoners of War were to be treated, and how treaties would be conducted,  were influenced by this  ideology.

It is interesting, for example, to listen to UK's comedian Pat Condell, as he decries the illogical destruction of his homeland by criminal  Islamic ideology and feminism's castrative impact.  

Listen to his reasoning on his pointed you tube videos and watch his argument develop:  

He takes Judeo Christian ideology and employee it to argue why Islam is counter productive and when his argument is complete, (and successful) he turns and condemns Judeo Christianity.  He borrows from it, has inherited a culture influenced by it, and speaks its language, while then condemning it.  Again, coming from the position of historical thought, it is fascinating, and another example of a talented performing intellectual narcissist making videos to analyze.  

The Middle Eastern Man's Morals


It can be argued as such:  if there is no god, and jesus was a liar, and all of this simple superstition, history  has never produced a more conducive ideology for prosperity, freedom, health and safety than the ideology that the obscure middle eastern man presented 20 centuries ago.   

As an atheist, who would you rather live next door to?

One who 'knows' that the only possible consequence from breaking into your house is the possibility of getting caught by police or...

The one who not only fears the same consequence of being caught by police, but has a 'superstitious' belief that in doing so, he will be punished when he dies?  

In Statement Analysis in hiring, we have a visible barrier to theft and exploitation:  video cameras, eye witnesses, forensic computer footprints, and so on.  

It is not enough.

We see those who also have the invisible barriers, such as the tender conscience, taught in childhood, that theft and exploitation are morally wrong, and have a negative internal consequence upon the employee.  

The results for businesses are amazing; not just less theft, but less unemployment, less fraudulent claims, and an increase in morale, which leads to an increase in sales.  

While young and strong, it is easy to dismiss anything about the afterlife; but not so easy when one gets older, as the philosophers lament and envy those of faith, while in advanced years, getting older, slower, with more limitations, aches, pains and ability to enjoy life; looking forward to...nothing.  This is why I wrote earlier, that the question of "why?" in life is asked by all thinking human beings.  

It is fair to say that Jesus Christ was either Who He said He was, or he is history's greatest liar and perpetrator of fraud.  Please presuppose in the analysis that the victim's husband asserts the former.  

This is an overview of the ideology publicly espoused and used in business by the victim's husband.  I wish for readers, again, to separate themselves from belief or faith and consider the business side:

The husband of murder victim, Amanda Blackburn, works full time to sell the ideology of the middle eastern man, for a living.  Like most men, he works, and wants to be successful in what he does.  This is a 'neutral' for analysis.  In analyzing employment applications, we look for employment motive:  earning money, building a resume, gaining experience, and so on, are all appropriate motives for seeking a job.  In the case of Blackburn, he has spoken extensively about this business aspect:

He has allowed us to know, in analysis, what his priority is.  This will be revisited in the actual analysis of the statements, but it is easy to assert now, to anyone who has either listened to him or read his statements, his priority is numerical success in his business.  It was in his most immediate statement made to his "fans" (his word) when Amanda was murdered, and it was not only analyzed as a priority due to order, but repetition and context.  It is an overwhelming priority, so much so, that it, alone, caught the attention of the public with such questions as, "How could he be talking about publicity for his church while his wife's killers are on the loose?" and "Why does he care about these things while his baby is murdered and...?"  and so on.  

The defense is to use the middle eastern man's ideology, is it not?  Have we not heard something along these lines?  "He is so concerned for the souls of others that he concentrates..."?  

Have we not heard dismissal where some say he is so 'delusional and lost in religion that you cannot take his words seriously'?

These are two attempts to discredit the analysis of the murder case; one from within, and the other from without, the ideology itself.  

Deception Within the Ideology

What about those who "change the rules"?

There have been murderous rulers who have committed atrocities in the name of the ideology but in doing so, they were deceptive.  They were not commanded in the ideology to steal and if you get beyond the propaganda of wars, you will find at all the non Islamic wars there was a consistency beneath motive:

Greed.

Money, land, power...Greed.

"I will have my tariffs!" from Lincoln, led to 600,000 dead.  Eventually, the argument from tariffs went to "save the union" and eventually slavery.  Lincoln's racist statements are all but forgotten in history books today, and even the Emancipation Proclamation is edited for not fitting the narrative today.  


 England had freed its slaves without the need for bloodshed.  

"We need living space!"  Hitler, though he began with a false flag bearing in Poland and had to "intervene" to "save" the innocents.  If you were a citizen of Germany in 1939, you read daily accounts that made your blood boil with anger:  innocent German citizens being attacked by criminal elements within Polish society, manipulated by Polish aristocracy, while Jews were profiting from the blood shed.  You believed main stream media and you wanted your government to intervene.  You knew nothing of Hitler's plans of theft and death.  (Another good reason to study deception detection)

Generally, but not always, the invader or aggressor, was the guilty party, and generally, too, was the quest for wealth, including power that generates wealth, or land that generates wealth.  Religion becomes the pre text and cover for greed. 

This is to go directly against all those unique "thou shalt nots" in Judeo Christian ideology.  If you live in relative peace thinking that while you are at work that your neighbors will not enter your home and steal, it is because an ideology of "thou shalt nots" became part of a culture and even if only superstition, you have benefited from it. 

If you argue that this cultural or ideological influence is in wane, you are not going to meet many who will disagree.  It is said that "Democracy only works" with people of good will.  Your neighbor may not break into your house and steal, but he might hack your computer and steal, or file a false lawsuit against you as the influence is in retreat.  Prisons filled, and once where the Protestant Work Ethic meant personal, internal responsibility, socialism and government dependency re-defines what "compassion" is, for the purpose of voting blocks.  

Judaism gave the origin of marriage, plainly, by painting a portrait of nature, with first plant life, bearing "seed after its kind", so that an orange tree reproduced an orange tree, and then on to animals, so that a horse would "bring forth after its kind", a 'baby' horse.  Then it was time for man in the creation account of this ideology, with "woman" taken from the man, with the pronunciation of what marriage is.  "Therefore a man shall leave his family and cling to his wife and they shall be one..."



Marital laws have, in following this, not only affirmed this definition but added limits (which came from the same ideology) including any union that would harm the offspring, such as siblings.  

The very word "husband" only works as it relates to one created to react to the design of the male.  In statement analysis, it is a dependent word, indicating that while used, another thought is in play.  One can "husband" only a female, with scientific reciprocal physiology; physically and emotionally, in the historical and creative definition of "marriage."  

We, today, have re-defined the word "marriage" as a cultural shift.  It puts things into perspective:

The middle eastern man's ideology affirms the definition of marriage as "one man and one woman" exclusively.  If you make public claim to represent this man's ideology (which presupposes Divine Authorship) yet are willing to publicly oppose his ideology, for the purpose of profit,  it is a form of 'deception', which is commonly called "hypocrisy", but has powerful emotional elements within it regarding truth and exploitation.  

Consider this:  someone who claims to be a "minister" (professional) of this ideology cannot say "it is divine" and then affirm a new definition of marriage, and be truthful.  If it was divine, it was perfect, is perfect, and cannot be altered.  If it was human, it could have been wrong, and the change acceptable.

This, too, begs the question, Why not embrace a different ideology that one is more comfortable with?  Why the need to do violence to this particular historic ideology and demand it yield to personal agenda?  This is a question repeated due to its importance.  What kind of personality is willing to claim divinity and then claim authority over the divine ideology?  This is not one who does not understand, or is in error to the ideology.  It must be deliberate in order to be deceptive.  

This is where 'truth seekers' end up; an almost indifferent external view that observes and questions.  The relevancy is critical in the investigation into the murder of Amanda Blackburn.  The re-definition of "marriage" is just a sample of deception by those who claim the ideology has divine inerrant origins.  It is not a disagreement of interpretation; it is to make an entirely different claim on a statement.  

My assertion here, in context, is about a specific psychological form of deception that takes a unique personality type to employ.  

II.  Ideology and Deception

It is fascinating to listen to people who want to 'own' as theirs the ideology of this obscure man from 20 centuries ago, but at their own recipe.  These are those who see the claims, know the claims, but deliberately present deception. This deception is by re-defining language, which is to pass counterfeit currency, linguistically, or by 'amputation', which is to directly contradict the claims of that man's own claims. 

Why?

Why bother?

If they do not agree with the man, why not simply adopt another ideology entirely?  

It seems genuine to say, "Christianity limits sexuality to heterosexuality; therefore, I have no need of it" than to say, 'that's not what it really teaches" or "jesus and the apostles did not have the understanding of genetic sexual attraction as we do today" which assaults his claim to be God and his word being perfection.  

Statement Analysis:  "thou shalt not lie with man as with woman..." as a prohibition that is from Judeo-Christian ideology.  A truthful one can say, "I do not agree" and be done.  A deceptive person has a need to deceive and change the intent of meaning.  This refers to a specific personality type.  

What happens when this deceptive personality type has talent?

What happens when this deceptive and talented personality type has  a single-minded obsession for something?

Most people have respect for honest disagreement. 

 I've had fascinating discussions and interviews with homosexuals who have said, "Of course I am not a Christian.  Christianity  is against my belief in my sexuality."  Yet others have said "I am a Christian.  The Bible didn't really mean that..." and retail the deceptive responses  they have heard from others.  

It is not Statement Analysis of the texts. 

This is why I often state that Statement Analysis has a "freeing" affect; we let the statement speak for itself; what is true is true; what is not true, is not.  It is as if we are outside looking in, with scientific indifference.  

Some have made the latter claim due to ignorance of the ideology.  
Others have made the claim while knowing the ideology.  This brings us closer to what it is we need to find out.  

Honest Debate Versus Willful Destruction 

There are lots of issues that faith debates over, but issues that are debated are done so to learn.  When one takes a plain, "thou shalt not" and say, "no, that is wrong, it should say, thou shalt!" while claiming to hold to the ideology do so as one who deceives.  He may deceive himself, or he may put himself in a public position (such as in a business to sell this ideology) and knowingly state:

1.  The Bible is Divine
2.  The Bible is Wrong
3.  Please come to my business establishment where I share this ideology 
4.  I am superior to Divinity

In other words, they know what ideology A teaches, but instead of simply disagreeing with it, and moving on to ideology B, or C, they demand ideology A bend to their own beliefs or bias. 

This is where the personality must be in view of the one who takes upon himself (or herself) the public bearer of the ideology of the man from the middle east 2000 years ago.  

This is why it is important to highlight topics of disagreement in this pre-analysis study.    

Another example.  The ideology and women 'business owners' of the ideology:

1.  The ideology claims to be divine; therefore inerrant. It cannot be wrong and it cannot be changed by time, culture, or any outside influence.  Truth remains what it is.  
2.  The middle east man behind it chose 12 men to carry his ideology to the world.  They, in turn, kept the leadership restricted to men.  
3.  The ideology forbids woman to be pastors.  
4.  The ideology reported why this prohibition existed.  
5.  The ideology said that the prohibition was not due to culture. 

Therefore, if I am a woman and I want to be a public representative of this ideology, I am faced with some choices. 

I can, of course, be honest and say that I will find a different ideology to cling to.  I disagree with this middle eastern man's ideology, though it has many fine points, because it excludes me.  I will find something else to sell...or

a.  Ignore the ideology as temporary solution until challenged;
b.  Oppose the ideology by various arguments including-the ideology is wrong, which then leads to, the "what if?" problem.  

One cannot claim divinity and error and be truthful.   

This then leads to the genuine question that says, "Why not find a different ideology to follow?"  

Instead, we find people willing to publicly demand the ideology change to fit their own personal bias. This is heightened if the person wishes to publicly 'sell' the ideology as a business.  The business owner wants to make money off of the ideology which he states is of divine origin, yet:  

 'The ideology, which claims to be divine,  will bend to my will.

This takes a very specific personality type.  It is not the personal or private opinion that I address, but one who is making a public declaration against the ideology while making a public declaration to represent the ideology. 

This next part is a bit difficult to explain, but I attempt to do so in order to allow you, regardless of your own position in any of these matters, to enter into the shoes of the subject, who is a public figure, publicly stating to be a true representative of the middle eastern man's ideology.  

This person is deceptive.  It goes beyond what most people understand psychologically:

'This book is the Word of God; It cannot be wrong.  
I know it says, "this", but I still choose "that" personally.  
I do this because, in essence, I am smarter than God."

Any claim to state the Bible is the inerrant Word of God but then changes it to fit one's own bias or agenda, is to show a personality that is not only unafraid of lying, but he (or she) unafraid of lying publicly, and even unafraid of divine retribution.  Take this a quantum leap further and place the person as one who, publicly and professionally (for money) asserts the ideology in his 'business' or church setting.  

Even if you believe it is all fairy tales from thousands of years ago, you should be able to see the inconsistency in those willing to change the message in order to be popular or successful.  Yet, can you see, from their own perspective, that they see themselves as superior to the god they claim to bow to?

For some, it is to claim the Bible to be God's Word, but it is "wrong" in limiting marriage to one man and one woman. 

Truth is not changed by time.  If something is true, it was true yesterday, and it will be true tomorrow.  Consider that a minister studies philosophy, so these are not new assertions to them.  

The ideology instructed him to teach the message.  When someone claims the message to be authentically Divine, it is submitted to.  

For another, it is to claim that the message is divine (note the capitalization change to reflect the internal)  needs to be altered to fit the person's own agenda.  

If the person adheres to the ideology being perfect, that is, 'complete' because it is divine, does not the person set himself up to be above the divine author?

Does this person now place himself as judge over the divinity?

It is easy to ask, 'Why not just embrace a different ideology altogether?  Why not start her own?' because this would be genuine and being genuine, or true to one's own self, is something humans respect.  

I do not speak to those in ignorance, nor those who have honest disagreements one with another:  I want readers to see that there are those who know what it teaches, but are of a personality that demands the ideology change to fit his or her own opinion rather than adopting a different ideology.  

They demand, for example, that 4,000 years of ideology change, instead of simply saying, "I am not a believer in Judaism or Christianity. I believe..."  

These are people who deliberately "lie" about the ideology are revealing a personality type that is very important to get to know:  profiling.

If the ideology says "thou shalt not lie with man as with woman" you can either:

1. Accept it
2.  Linguistic gymnastics
3.  Ignore it
4.  Truthfully, condemn it and adopt a different ideology in a "live and let live" philosophy.  

To be "truthful" would be to say, "Hey, I don't buy this.  Therefore, I am not going to cling to this ideology started by a man from the middle east 2000 years  ago.  Instead, I will find something else more suited to what I like regarding a man having sex with a man."

This is truthful.

You may or may not like it, but it is authentic. 

 If Jesus claimed to be God, and God, by definition, cannot change nor be wrong, why not bail out instead of claiming to believe Jesus is God, but Jesus is also wrong?  

*It takes a very specific element within a personality to place himself or herself above that which they consider divinity.  

The answer is not singular, but I implore readers to consider one particular element.  I recognize the hatred and the antagonism but in context, consider that those who alter the message may do so to personally profit from the ideology.  

Readers come here for truth.  They are, more than in other places, perhaps, open for the truth to be told than the general public.  They want to hear what analysis shows.     

"Hey, I'd like to have 3, maybe even 4 wives.  I see that the precept in Creation says, "nope" to my idea, so I am going to adopt a different ideology so that I can practice polygamy. " 

You may not like this person, but he is, in the least, being truthful.  It is completely different from the person who says "I want multiple wives and the Bible teaches it."  If (and the word "if" is critical) the subject knows the Bible both condemns polygamy while historically reporting it historically, he is deliberately twisting historical recognition to justify his own desire.    

Over the years, I have had gay friends who have been open about this and I respect them for it.  "I'm not interested in assaulting the beliefs of others; it is not for me."  

"Why would anyone join a religion with so many restrictions, anyway?"  This is a good question and an honest question.  It is asked in sincerity.  

It is not, however, the question for this analysis.  It is sometimes helpful to see the shadow before we see the original.  

It is most fascinating to see people who rush to an ideology that condemns them, demanding that the ideology bend to them, rather than they find something else to hold to.  We see this in the news almost daily today, as it has become increasingly popular to hold people in faith in contempt and to call their sacred beliefs 'phobias' and 'immoral hatred' not while walking away from the ideology:  but while walking into the ideology, with demands in hand.  

There is something within the personality that lies in this manner.

If it says "thou shalt not", why not just be honest and start a new religion or ideology?  Why the need to input oneself into something that disagrees?

Since this question has been posed several times for impact, it is now time to ask:

"What kind of personality walks into an ideology demanding it bend to fit one's emotions?"

Now we are moving closer to the object, away from the shadow.  

We must consider it from a professional point of view.  

There are a lot of reasons for this, but it is important to note those who are, publicly, willing to deceive even their own profession, for personal gain.  This is what it comes down to:  altering the message to propagate myself.  

On the obvious level:  It takes a very selfish person to do this, yes, but there is still more. 

It takes a very selfish, and talented person, to do this and do it successfully.  

Over the years, most, though not all, of the "televangelists" have done this very thing.  They have a powerful desire for money, and fame makes money.  Those who hold to the ancient ideology as "faith" or "belief", cringe. 

Why?

Most of what is offered is accurate.  

It is the drive for money, one way or another, that causes them to 'alter' the message even if it means creating an imbalance in the message.  

Let's call these who change or alter the message knowingly to be "pragmatic" for the backdrop of this understanding. 

These are individuals who use this man's ancient ideology for personal gain.   They know that it is easier to get the masses to brace a bumper sticker slogan than complicated truth.  They will say and do pragmatically whatever it takes to gain what they seek.  This is almost always money, and when it appears to be fame or power, remember that these are steps towards wealth.  

In the 1970's, there was an attempt to bring the "hippies" to Christianity.  

What would be presented to them?

Consider the choice faced.

Person A says "I will deliver the same message as always, "Repent and live" and call them to live a life forgiven and now intent on keeping the "thou shalt nots", while "loving thy neighbor" and working hard to provide for self.  As society has gotten more and more wealthy, this message has lost some of its popularity.  

Person B says, "If I deliver the same message, few are going to come.  Therefore, I will just present one particular side of the message and once they are in, then I will tell them the other side.  So for now, I will tell them, "Be forgiven" but I won't tell them those "thou shalt nots" which turn them off. They want to do their own thing.   I will tell them to "love their neighbor" but the word "love" needs a bit of tweaking."

Person C  has been watching the others and he says, 

"I see Person A has 10 people and is impoverished.  I see Person B has 100 people and he is feeding his kids.  I'd sure like to surpass him and get 200 people, so I will further "tweak" the meaning of "loving thy neighbor" and this 'jesus' that John the Baptist said would judge...he's got to go.  The guy who went violent in cleansing out the temple...I will emasculate and instead, he is going to have long hair, because my hippie audience does this, and..."

The message of "repent" gave way to new "prosperity" messages and so humorous songs like The Rolling Stones' "Girl With Far Away Eyes" has a comical, but accurate look at the silly message that says if you send money to the evangelist, you're going to find wealth. The key is it is deliberate.  

This ideology progressed in affluent America and with each wave of "political correctness", many willingly changed the teaching of the man's ideology and did so in a rush of competition. 

When the person knows that what he or she is saying is in contradiction to the ideology but do it anyway, the person is  lying and is doing so for profit margin.  

Remember, lie detection has to do with intent.  Simply repeating what one believes is not to lie, even when the information is incorrect. 

When an English Iman said, "Islam is not consistent with democracy" he was countered by non Muslim English politicians who said, "that's not true."  

The Iman told the truth.  Love him or hate him, he was truthful, in a stark moment where he embarrassed the "multi cultural" politicians but he told the truth.  He actually showed the influence of the UK's culture upon him.  He was 'goaded' into the truth, instead of the cultural 'tacquia' that honors deception.  

Baptist and Presbyterians have disagreements on baptism.  These are genuine disagreements, but what of the personality who says,

"I know baptism, by either means, is in the Bible, but today, people hate the water thing, so I am going to change it and say, "there is no such teaching of baptism today.  This was culturally due to...you know, how people in those days rode on smelly camels and they got camel poop on their, well on their heads if they were short, and in those days, everyone was short, so baptism was just needed to wash off the camel poop.  Uh, check history.  It's all there.  In fact, in the original Greek, there were some words found in ancient philosophers that held to camel poop as sacred and it really caused disease so the church invented this baptism as a way of washing off the poop!"

Bingo.  

The more intellectually clever the deceptive one is, the more he can explain off anything that might hinder his goal of fame and fortune.  Here we come to the personality of pragmatic success, even while claiming the ideology to be of divine, unalterable character.  

In understanding this murder case, you must see how powerful this pragmatism really is, no matter your opinion of Judaism or Christianity.  

Many (not all) murderers feel a need to put their victim on trial, which both condemns the victim but it also justifies the action.  This is crucial in analyzing a statement.  It is found to slip into statements where accidental death is claimed.

"The baby wouldn't finish her dinner."  

Now, she is dead, claimed as an accidental death. 

 In the Blackburn case, we had one who:

has embarrassed those who want justice for this case, with his change of Christianity, an ideology many  hold sacred. 

People have become obsessed with Amanda Blackburn's murder, which some interest can be explained in the obvious circumstances but there are other elements:

a.  Blackburn's seeking of attention.  This almost always triggers anger. No one likes being 'played the fool' with liars.  Recall how anger brewed at Falcon Lake 'widow' who emerged from Falcon Lake, Texas, sans husband, with an outrageous theft of the modern "Titanic" hollywood version.  She could barely contain her zeal, going from network to network, while the public insisted that she be polygraphed.  She never was and even made it as far as the Governor's front steps.  Attention seekers hold their audience in contempt, even if they are only appearing in an attempt to control information as was the case of Billie Jean Dunn, in the murder of her daughter, Hailey Dunn. 

b.  Blackburn's crass commercializing of her death. 

This is key to understanding, not only who he is, but who we are.  This irritated people and for some, gave them more resolution to learn the truth in this case.  

In doing so, people of positions of justice-mindedness were (and are) enraged that he would take her death and use it for fame and subsequent fortune.  

c.  The circumstances, including:

1.  Complaining about her publicly.  
2.  Telling the public how his business would be better without her
3.  Making distancing and deceptive statements 
4. Circumstantial Evidence including the conclusion of "no one can be this lucky!" from many seasoned investigators.  The 'odds' of all of the factors coming together on the very day he did not lock the door and stayed on the phone, days after waving around a gun...
5. Flamboyancy as an irritant to audience seeking truth. 

6.  Faith

Some are likely obsessed with this case for all of the above, but have an additional emotional component:  anger at one who holds their faith in contempt for the purpose of exploitation.  In this sense, it is rather personal and it is reflected in the length of comments about this murder case.  

Everything he says, does, and even in appearance, is not only flamboyant, but is designed to entertain, entice, convince and bring fame and fortune that numbers bring. 

He is, at the core of his being, one obsessed with success and his chosen area for this end is the ideology of a middle eastern man from more than 20 centuries ago.  

I suggest to you that Christianity, as an ideology, presents the perfect platform for exploitation by Blackburn, and all others like him, who know plainly, that they are presenting only portions of truth, changing other portions, and deliberately presenting to people a specific personal version of truth, pragmatically designed, to make him famous and wealthy. 

This is all "justified" by the religious veneer.  

Years ago there was a 'televangelist' who said 'God' told him people's woes and he would wow the crowd by revealing,

"Your aunt Polly is sick with cancer.  She will be healed!" to the amazement of the subject and audience. 

Later, it was found that he had a small blue-tooth pre-blue tooth like device in his ear and was exposed as a fraud.  

He lost it all.

How gullible and vulnerable are Americans?  He made it all the way back to TV.  This does not affirm nor deny the ideology, but it does affirm the thief.  

It is this justification that I hope readers will bear with this lengthy article and give consideration to, as I move from backdrop of ideology, to analysis. 

My assertion is that these exploiters know and deliberately alter the message, present an imbalanced message, and withhold truth for the pragmatic purpose of personal gain, no matter what they feel needs to be changed.  For some, it is mild changes, while for others, it is wholesale changes, but the common denominator is deception; that is, the willful knowing that what he (or she) is doing is contrary to the middle eastern man's ideology that is claimed to be perfection.  

Next, consider the personality type who knows, lies, and goes public with it.  Again, this is not one who is in error, but sincere; it is one who knows precisely what he is doing and does it, anyway. 

How much talent does this deceiver have?

What of his presentation's design?

What does his language reveal as his priority?  

For those who hold to this ideology in sincerity, differences are presupposed and accepted among people of good will; while recognizing how many are motivated by personal gain.  

It is within the personality of one bold enough to:

1.  Learn the Ideology
2.  Deliberately twist, pervert, change,  imbalance, manipulate the ideology for personal gain. 
3.  Have the nerve to go 'public' on a large scale, including fearlessness in the face of scrutiny
4.  Remove any hinderance to this 'mission' for success. 
5.  Resolve:  under the public scrutiny, the personality digs his heels in, no different than the liar who backs up his lie with yet another lie, rather than own the truth and admit fault.  

I warn employers incessantly that liars will always put themselves before the material needs of their companies, as well as their employees and customers.  Liars destroy.  It is what they do.  If one is a habitual liar, one has a trail of broken lives, broken promises, and losses for as long as they have practiced their deception.  

From "King" to "weepie, effeminate affirming therapist" 

When the 70's turned into the 80's and 90's, there was a disappearance of "Christ the King" and His rule over the nations, demanding repentance and obedience from them as His subjects, as He claimed the crown rights  both for Himself, and from the Old Testament scriptures, while there was an appearance of a new 'jesus', who is not king, but weak, weeping, beggarly, just asking people to 'accept' him, and have some form of "personal relationship", as if they were having coffee together while seated in a sunny porch on a lazy day. This new 'jesus' existed to 'meet your needs'...what needs?  "All" your needs.  It is easy to do this by destroying context, and history.  Blackburn is not the first, and he won't be the last to use pragmatism to promote his business venture.  He is, however, very talented in what he does.  

It takes a certain personality to first know the truth, and then to pervert it to fit a particular aim, but it takes someone with a deeper commitment to self to take the ideology, bear it in contempt, and then go "public" with it for personal gain. 

Blackburn Videos 

This 'personal relationship' is presented in a sexualized manner, including tight pants, pop haircuts, and an overall "front and center" narcissism of a showman. It includes the open indictment of the victim, Amanda, to 'make a point' which statement analysis shows: 

the need to persuade his audience that he has a powerful heterosexual drive for sex.  

Audience Expectation 

They produce studies and expensive workshops on how to grow their "business", with "example models" and "the latest techniques" on how to "grow your church", with the chief end being numerical success.  

They are taught in seminars how to use the "bumper sticker" education so popular in the United States today where catch phrases supplant the hard work of education.  This, too, is not new or unique to "the best is yet to come" we heard after the murder.  

Remember the bracelets, "WWJD"?  This stood for "what would Jesus do?" for teens who were at R rated movies.  The inherent issue of this bracelet is that it is speculative and it encourages one not to study and learn.  Instead of taking the time (and effort) to learn what Jesus did, and what He taught, and what His disciples taught, one could simply speculate.  For some, "jesus" would steal, assault and even murder. This appeals to the lazy minded audience who craves entertainment over instruction.

 Recall the sad account from the attorney who's client was being sentenced for armed burglary and assault listening to the client's mother and aunts "claiming in jesus' name!" that the guilty violent young man would "have the victory", which meant:  he would get away with his crime.  The attorney lamented that there was no prayer for the young woman he beat up, nor for victims in general.  For them, this 'jesus' existed to bypass justice and help criminals remain as criminals and not learn from mistakes.  

Without getting into what specifics Blackburn twists to further his cause, one can simply choose any video of his and instead of studying it, one can simply listen for a few minutes.  There will be no argument.  Better still?  Look at several videos, just a few seconds of each, to get an even wider portrait.  If you can listen, go to those with Amanda, or about marriage and note how often he talks about himself and his sexuality.  How many times must he tell you that he is heterosexual before you ask, "Why the need to persuade?"  

His presentation of an ideology, precious and sacred to some, is an affront.  

This bothers people, all by itself, but to have video where he insults his victim, complains about his victim, and finally, waves a gun around, compounds with the inherent insult of public lies, to cause a powerful reaction within people; especially people who love the very words he twists or uses for exploitation.   The murder case, itself, fascinates, but to give an in-depth analysis means to understand the ideology, and the 'violence' done deliberately to the ideology, as it reveals the personality. 

Liars are destructive.  This means that they destroy. It is what they do.  "When push comes to shove..." always happens in life:  push will come to shove and when it does, expect the liar to fulfill his pattern in life:  he will protect himself with lies, even if it destroys others.  He will also lie so that it destroys others.  Get him some success and he will lie some more, but get him a lot more success in his ambitions and watch his ambitions grow to levels of ruthlessness.  

Ruthlessness?  Talk to those who have dared to disagree with Blackburn's mentor, the one who described Blackburn as sexy at Amanda's funeral.  

Honest people lie

When they lie, they hurt, they repair the damage but most impressively, they learn from their mistakes.  When they hear a sermon, for example, about theft, they do not say, "I am glad I am not a thief", instead, they look within and say, "I told the ticket puncher that my daughter was 12 when she was 13.  I stole" and seek to amend this, while learning from it.  The 'shaming' of thievery, therefore, is something they found inspiring and helpful because they seem themselves as personally responsible and with the ability to change.  Those that seek to blame others, blame society, blame external forces, cannot make such amendments.  

These hear Blackburn's messages, or worse, watch his carefully choreographed video appearances, and they react with such words as "nauseating", "infuriating" and it fills them with a desire to see justice for Amanda, even though there are thousands of victims of murder that have not received justice.  

They are particularly upset because he has deliberately invaded an ideology they hold sacred, for his own gain and state that the message he gives uses similar language from their ideology, but is very different.  

My assertion is this:

The spouse of Amanda Blackburn has spoken a great deal.  What he has spoken about the murder indicates deception.  Some of the deception appears to be, in context, about sexuality.  When this is coupled with his videotapes messages about his own sexuality, with its specific choreography and costumes, it further asserts deception about his much affirmed heterosexuality.  

But that is not all.  

He is one who is not afraid to deliberately tailor the ideology precious to many to fit his own agenda, nor is he afraid to talk about his agenda; he does it boldly.  His wife had not yet been buried and he was already publicly celebrating an early success in his agenda of numerical success.    

He is more honest and upfront about his "numbers" agenda than he is about his sexuality, and about what happened to Amanda, even though he talked a great deal about his own sexuality, on video.  

To understand his language, and how he puts everything in the context of this ideology, you must first understand the ideology and then understand the personality type that is dishonest enough to alter the ideology to fit popularity and success.  Then, you must see and estimate the measure of his intellect, along with his boldness in the face of scrutiny.  These are all elements of personality emerging.  

Take that another step up and see the boldness of one who not only isn't afraid of television and exposure, but seeks it.  

Take that yet further:  he can read analysis and still be unafraid to attempt to explain away that which is consistent with both guilt and deception.

Let's say that you were in a very unhappy marriage, even to the point where you considered lucky, blessed or fortunate to be freed, even in horrible circumstances, from this marriage. 

Would you use such distancing language?

I affirm that you would not.  In fact, you would feel guilt over having wanting a divorce.  This is called "survivor's guilt" by some in psychology.  "Why Amanda?"  

If your wife, even if you wanted with all your heart and even your sexuality, wanted out of this marriage, was brutally murdered and the killers running free, 

would you express no concern for your son, or your own life?

This article is written, in part, for those who foolishly dismiss human nature and say, "Davey was fearless because he trusted God" and "Davey did not mourn because he knew he would be with her again", and finally, "Davey's use of "we" is because he sees himself and Jesus as one."

He does not. 

I assert that he sees himself as superior to Christ.  I assert that he sees himself superior to the Apostles and to the message they carried.  I assert that he feels the need to 'coach', and 'guide' and give a 'new presentation' to the ideology that he claims and believes to be divine and perfect. 

He sets himself up above perfection.  

This is a form of narcissism that is combined with a well above average intellect and a talent for deception, manipulation and persuasion.  This is wrapped up within a desperation for relevancy that drives him to success.  When he said that he would have been content with x number of congregants, this statement was, in the context of Christianity's ideology, an unnecessary statement.  It is why we have "Negation" in Statement Analysis, and why that which is in the negative is elevated in importance of that which is in the positive.  

He portrayed this number in the context of 'humbly accepting less', which is distinctly negative, and he did so in the wake of his wife's murder.  


The more one speaks, the more we know. 

If he knew his own ideology he would know that "out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks."

So from this abundance, I can simply count words. 

How many times did he use Amanda's name?

I can do the same thing at the Amanda memorial service.  

What did his mentor talk about?

The resurrection from the dead, as the ideology teaches, based upon the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Question:  How many times did you hear the word "resurrection" used from one who is ordained as a minster of this ideology?  If you are familiar with the ideology, the resurrection from the dead is "front and center" not only ideologically, but at every funeral and memorial service where the subject represents the ideology.  

How many words did he dedicate to tell us about the victim's husband's physical appearance?

He told us that something "wasn't right" about Blackburn and that the "fix" or "repair" would be a woman; Amanda.  

My assertion is that this ideology, from an Israeli man of obscurity, more than 20 centuries ago, is used for personal gain; not as so much a primary motive, but also from a pragmatic viewpoint:  to change whatever portion of the ideology that might hinder the goal. 

Where the ideology teaches that there is joy in Heaven over one sinner repenting, we saw and heard the strong introduction of the pronoun "I" from Blackburn, berating his followers so that they would not celebrate any turning from sin to Christ, but because they failed to reach his expectation of numbers; a mandate he set, himself.  

He is unafraid to challenge and change anything in order to accomplish his goal. 

He told us that Amanda and her pregnancy hindered him from his goals just a few short years ago and from there, he went on to complain about his wife not fulfilling his heterosexual sex drive. How obsessed did he present himself?

He claimed that he could not "concentrate" on a dinner date with Amanda, lest he had sexual intercourse first.  

This he gave to an audience of young people, including females, who could watch him strut back and forth, allowing their imaginations get ahead of them:  perhaps they could satisfy him since she can't.  Couple this with his complaints about her and you get the picture:

Focus upon him.  Focus upon his sexuality.  Him:  good.  Amanda: bad. 

We listen very carefully for one to justify his own actions.  See the short article on this where murderers sometimes play the role of prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner, of their victims, verbally. 

Step back from this and place it all within the contextual language of the ideology of Judeo Christianity.  Christianity actually gives him justification of his complaints. 

What did he complain about her?

Was it about her ears?  Her family?  Her money?

Think of how he took complaints and indictments against her back to his twisted view of the ideology.  

If one can, whether or not belief in Christianity is held, see the ideology, his alterations of the ideology and his use of it in his narrative, you can begin to understand the language and the analysis.  

It is convenient, in hindsight, to say "we" is "me and jesus" yet Pronouns are intuitive and are used...

after making such a claim.  When he returned, 6 months from the murder, the same pronoun pattern appeared, including distancing language and the dropped pronoun. 

This is a talented, well above average intellect, and showman who has placed himself, naked, in the location of needing to be washed, with Divinity, Himself, having taken "instructions" from the Creator, to go out and receive his fame. 

He is not delusional.  "Crazy Davey", as his mentor called him, does have something "wrong" and that is "very wrong" with him, and it is something that his mentor said would be fixed by a "woman." He knows what he is saying, and he is consistent in both his priority and in his guilty use of pronouns. 

This message, given 'off the cuff', that is, from the Free Editing Process, was a brilliant form of manipulation that included 'preparing the soil' for the message, taking authority over his father in law, his father-in-law's work, the entire congregation, and then to take his wife's murder to boldly give himself a status that demands either submission with all reverence, or... scorn.  

Whether you or I believe him, his message, or in Judaism or Christianity, is not relevant here. 

It is what he believes. 

It is within his assertion.  

Those more familiar with the ideology can have a better understanding and insight into the spouse of murder victim, Amanda Blackburn, when he speaks.  

It comes down to this:  

Is he true to the ideology?

or, 

Does he affirm the ideology to be perfectly divine, only to set himself up, slightly above it, for the purpose of achieving his personal agenda of success?

How far will he go while driven for success.  

He told us.

Amanda died so the church would live.  

Consider this, aside from blasphemy.  

Consider that this was the claim of Jesus Christ.  Years later, Paul pointed to science. 

A tiny seed must be given a burial and from this burial in the ground new life would come, highlighting that humans, too, with all life, experience life from death, in the resurrection.  The little tomato seed is buried in the dirt as to 'die' symbolically, with 4 months later, a 5 or 6' plant yields much fruit.  

Amanda died for the church, he claimed.  

She was not dead but a few days and he already was counting the 'tomato' production, to the point of giving an actual number of people who tuned in to the memorial via the internet. 

Do you see what he is doing?

This is a form of justification of her death.  It uses specific language from an ideology of which he sets himself up as "over" it, or superior to it; in need of his theatrics, as well as his picking and choosing which to emphasize and which to withhold.  

Distinctly within this narcissistic like personality trait is a belief that he is superior to the god he claims to represent.  He takes the ideology for business success reasons, and alters it to fit his compulsion and drive for the fame and fortune of numerical success. 

Whether this is done in theatrics of presentation, or by imbalance, it is clear that the analysis of his priority is correct.  When facing the greatest tragedy a man can face:  losing his own "person"; that is, one half of the "full person" that Creationism teaches, his response was to happily report the numbers coming in.  "Jesus" is just a buzzword to cover this insatiable drive for fame.  "Jesus" bears no resemblance, linguistically, to the middle eastern historical figure.  

There are those who alter the ideology to fit their agenda, revealing an element of narcissistic thinking within themselves, demanding that the ideology be accepted as Divine, while demanding it bend to their will.  This, alone, helps us understand their motive.  

Yet when the need to assert both elements couples with the single minded purpose of drive for fortune as well as the talent of public speaking and the flair of theatrics, it reveals a personality that says:

Nothing will stand in my way for greed.  Nothing.  

This is why we saw no grieving but an almost inability to conceal his giddiness at the free publicity he received and why he was able to say that the murder victim died for this success.  

Fear of the unknown killers?
Fear that they would return to silence him and kill his son?
Bereft of his "better half"?  

No, she was the albatross slowing him down, along with a pregnancy, from his very publicly stated goals.  The memorial was, in deed, celebratory, with the reason for celebration claimed to be a resurrection that was not even mentioned. 

Our words give us away.  

The reason men die throughout history is from greed.  It is the source of wars and it is the source of murders.  True, they hide behind religion to masquerade their greed, or, as in the case of criminal Islamic ideology, violence is prescribed, but to what end?  To the end of taking what others have, including their land, their homes, their wives and their possessions.

Greed. 

Greed kills.  

It is not that money is the root of all evil; it is the love of money that is not all evil, but its root cause. 

Power is intoxicating and it, as fame, brings great wealth. 

Some wars are necessary to stop the greed of others and are fought defensively or to free those taken away by greed.  The number one cause for the American War for Independence was "duty."  Men believed it was their "duty" from this specific ideology, to provide for their families and that when the king of England did not stop the tyranny of a parliament that held no legal representation of the colonies, the decision to fight was that the oppressive taxes caused men to be incapable of providing for their families.  It was the call of duty to resist greed and the tyranny that facilitates greed. 

Greed drives men to insanity, or in the least, to illogical and even murderous decisions,  

 One can claim that good things come from tragedy and this is precisely the teaching of the ideology, yet, there is no suspension of human nature.  This does not explain away the incessant complaints against his wife, or how she held back the growth of his business.  This does not justify the extreme nature of distancing language.  This does not clarify the childlike guilt found within the plural use of "we", when he was alone.  This does not explain any of it. 

For some, he is hiding his sexuality behind the magnificent heterosexual sex drive his wife could not satisfy and is crassly cashing in on her death of which he was just incredibly lucky.  

For others, the language of guilt far exceeds any guilt felt from commercializing her death.  

My conclusion of his language in this ideological setting is this:

The husband of murder victim Amanda Blackburn has revealed, linguistically, a personality that is so narcissistic in scope, that he demands that his audience accept that the ideology he sells is both divine in nature, and that he thus reveals that he, himself, is a counselor and advisor to divinity, and the purpose of such is to advance his ambitious agenda of greed.  

When he claimed that he was personally spoken to by divinity, standing naked in his shower, he deceived his audience, deliberately, to propagate an authority that leads to numerical success.  When he said he received the news that he would be part of a history making event, he was not simply showing his narcissism, but he was deceptive.  

The coincidental nature of the murder is next examined in light of the statements he has publicly made.  






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Alexandra said...

I will just be taking a break from the Davey case, and perhaps spend some time catching up with Peter's posts about Islamic terrorists and how Islam is slowly taking over the world.

I don't find Davey's mind intriguing enough to want to explore ad nauseum, and it seems that any attempt to return to the actual case goes right back to the topic of Davey's psyche, usually influenced by Me2l's posting about narcissism constantly.

His psyche and how it was formed, I'm sure, is interesting to a point. His presnt-day persona I find to be very simple and easy to understand. He is primarily concerned with being attractive to gay men..in fact most of what is discussed here is his appearance and time at the gym. He wants to make pretty good money because that is a huge plus in the disgusting gay lifestyle where other attractive gay men want clothes, jewelry, expensive antique furniture, gym memberships and visits to the spa in order to ever want to have a "repeat" sexual encounter. Otherwise, they are off to their next anonymous encounter.



Anyway, good luck with the case. I need to catch up with the rest of the blog and return to learning about global affairs like the spread of radical Islam.

Me2l said...

Lololol

Sure

Anonymous said...

Bingo @ 1:28,

Yes, I read the blog.

Davey is wonderful. Women should affirm their husbands more. Don't forget - it's Father's Day on Sunday so he is expecting lots of supportive messages!

Alexandra said...

I see now on social media, the sheeple are all acting like gay clubs are the equivalent of Mother Theresa's soup kitchens. Both straight and gay sheeple. One poor soul posted that he "didnt know what he was" until he was "tricked" into going to a gay club 20 years ago. If that wasnt the devil himself working through the 2 people who tricked him. I can see from his postings his life has been empty and full of gay men who use him for his money...leaving him hopeless and alone ever since the devil tricked him. And I am accused of intolerance as these heteros who put up memes proclaiming how loving they are to gay people yet if one of these gay people dont present a sterilized image of what they are these same hetero gay lovers ignore them like they have the plague, while I continue treating them kindly and "like" their posts. What a bunch of hypocrites! And now I will be on my merry way!

Me2l said...

All here to people are angelic and saintly. No hetero is promiscuous.

Me2l said...

*hetero (as if it matters)

Alexandra said...

Me2l,

I will no longer be responding to your sarcastic and mindless challenges to what I write. What you just wrote was nothing short of the devil himself trying to influence me into accepting the abomination of gay males using each other like yesterday's garbage as normal. Luckily I can discern between God's word and the devil's whisperings quite easily.

Alexandra said...

And as far as gay clubs, I see no reason for them to be praised. Back in my drinking days, one time a friend made me accompany him to one and let me tell you it was a BAD TIME. Those gay bartenders are very uptight...I got cut off after my first drink (which was actually more like my 9th) and I was unable to even enjoy dancing bc I got bounced out for trying to get a drink from the bar on the second floor. This wouldnt have happened anywhere else--I found the atmosphere very uptight. My God what kind of a party is that?! Thank God Ive been saved by the Holy Spirit from debauchery and now live to serve the Lord. So sorry for rambling.

Anonymous said...

Holy Toledo

Me2l said...

Yes, you will.

Anonymous said...

"Im so proud of you Davey"! Here's a smiley face sticker to put on your forehead. I read in your latest blog entry that you fixed a leaky faucet! Well, I guess as gay as you are, you're not half as bad as these other feminized men running around who dont do JACK SQUAT for their families....they dont want to get their precious hands soiled or get their dresses dirty. American men rapidly turning into women. Good for you Davey! High five! "Im proud of you, sport!"

Me2l said...

Thank you for that predictable take and contribution, HISG.

mom2many said...

From Davey's latest, this struck me as unexpected: "I would lasso the moon and bring it back to Amanda to hear her say those affirming words again to me."

He doesn't say he would bring her back.

Anonymous said...

Davey said

"I wonder how many men feel the same way I do. I wonder how many men are tired, drained, feel defeated and just need someone to look them in the eye and say, “I’m so proud of you. Keep going. You’re doing great!”"

LMFAO. Davey-boy you know what most men need to hear? "You're doing terrible! You're a lazy no-good piece of shit! You haven't lifted a finger in a year because you're a waste of human space! Happy Father's Day Assw&pe!"

Anonymous said...

Oh Davey, with his nauseating marital advice :

Ladies, a little clue into the heart of a man: Men run to environments where they feel affirmed. If they feel affirmed at work, they’ll spend most of their time there. If they feel affirmed at home, they’ll gladly leave the office to spend more time with family.

"Davey great job! You flushed the toilet after you took a cr&p!" "Great job you fed yourself without needing a bib today!" "Great job!!!! Great job!!!! Great job you stupid POS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Anonymous said...

Mom2many,

Good catch! Plus he's such a bullsh&t artist too! Even his use of the phrase "lasso the moon" is beyond unforgivable.

Anonymous said...

Davey, a little clue into the heart of a woman: Keep her safe. Lock the doors.

Amanda called you out as a liar.

If you want affirmation, be worthy of it and STOP LYING.

Hey Jude said...

He couldn't lasso the moon if he wanted to which is like saying he doesn't really want to hear Amanda saying she is so proud of him again - whereas locking the front door (if he had wanted to) would have been within his reach, and Amanda would have been so proud of him. As he didn't manage that, he can comfort himself with the thought of how proud Amanda would have been to know he'd called 911 'as soon as he could', instead.

Did it annoy him when Amanda said she was proud of him for being able to tie his shoelaces, sort of thing? I can imagine it might have, and that to not praise Davey enough was to have a sullen Davey, but to overdo it could easily raise his hackles. Does a man really need to be told 'I'm so proud of you' so often? I think it was Amanda who tried to be the strategist employing tact with Davey - once he got that, and although he still wanted and/or needed it, her praise annoyed him.

Maybe he did not receive much affirmation in childhood, so always he is looking for people to tell him he is good, clever, talented, and that they are proud of him, and so on - but also feels he is being humoured and patronised if he knows that really, whatever he did was not that great.

He might like to imagine Amanda would be proud of him now - I don't see he has much to be proud of in the way he has conducted himself since Amanda's death. I can't believe he uploaded, or allowed to be uploaded, the 'Worship as a Weapon' sermon (within days of Amanda's murder) - inappropriate doesn't begin to describe it. He does not get common decency, or that it is in very bad taste. I don't understand why others around him don't see that either, or find his quick moving on to be inappropriate (remembering how he asked the congregation to be understanding while he took 'the next few days' to grieve Amanda).

I don't get his, or anyone's, need to be told 'I'm so proud of you' for doing non-remarkable things. I get that a 'thank-you - that's great' might be appreciated for fixing a car or something around the home. 'I'm so proud of you' - more for success in school, sport, career, meeting a challenge, receiving awards etc.

It's an interesting blog - don't know if it is true.

Anonymous said...

That is a very good question: Do men actually want to be told "I'm so proud of you."
Men ARE very simple creatures, so it is possible they would want to be affirmed in that way, with the kind of patronizing affirmation one might give to a trained chimpanzee when they actually do something worth praising, which isn't very often in my experience. On the rare occasion they do, I tend to say "Thank you". HOw in the world could you stay in love with a man who needed to be patted on the head and "affirmed" for doing simple tasks? Davey didn't care that Amanda had long ago fallen out of love with him, she surely had by the time she gave him up for Lent. I wonder if she ever really said the words "I'm proud of you" to him. It must have been so nauseating for her is she felt she had to do so in order to contain his wrath, she looks quite sickened by him in the love songs videos.

Anonymous said...

http://lonniesmalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/stuart_smalley_Daily-Affirmations-I-am-good-enough-I-am-smart-enough-and-doggone-it-people-like-me.jpg

Anonymous said...

Starbucks and LA Fitness must affirm the shit out of him.

Anonymous said...

Lol @ 11:45! (Unless Me2l posted it-then it's not funny)

Anonymous said...

The barista puts a smiley face and hearts on his cup.

Anonymous said...

Lol, just what he needs an affirming cup of coffee to choke down before he heads to the gym to get hearts drawn on his ass.

Bingo3 said...

From Bobcat: Davey, a little clue into the heart of a woman: Keep her safe. Lock the doors
^^^^this^^^^^

I thought this was a little humorous from his blog!
"I received this text from a friend who is both a wife and a mom to a great family:
Hey Davey. Following you on snapchat and just wrapping my mind around the way you’re embracing this new way of life and moving forward."

Oh yes it miraculous how giddily he embracing his new life! Not only embracing but celebrating!!

Me2l said...

"New way of life."

Just wow.

And that's coming from me.

Anonymous said...

Someone else said "new way of life." Not Davey. I don't find it very "wowing."

Me2l said...

I know it was someone else, but it just seems an odd way for anyone to put it. Having said that, I think the "analysis" here has become more ludicrous by the day.

While Davey appears to be a self absorbed prick, so far he has not been shown to be a murderer. LE has not even deemed him worthy of a formal investigation. I guess they're waiting for the trial of those they have arrested, where suddenly, someone will stand up, and in a Perry Masonesque-like move, reveal in dramatic fashion that ........ GASP! ........ DAVEY BLACKBURN killed his wife!

I wonder which theory they will use that obviously came from the imaginations of the crime fiction writers in these comments.....who somehow miraculously, hit upon the truth in one of the countless stories told here.

I read the latest "5 Words" blog post. I must say, the only way to come up with the take two or three ladies and socks are presenting is through a very biased opinion, based upon accepting the outlandishness of events repeated ad nauseam here. It certainly has nothing to do with SA. It's all about feelings and opinions ala HISG. If people here are, indeed, interested in truth, there is no resemblance of such through these fictitious and surreal scenarios presented in the comments.

I was reading earlier blog post comments about Amanda Blackburn's murder, and they were amazingly fascinating, with multiple and intelligent posters applying SA (although I continue to have questions about some of that process). Such a contrast with what passes for SA among the very few commenters who remain.









sore thumb said...

Yeah it wasn't too bad a first, then a bunch of new people showed up and decided it was their job to run off anyone who questioned DB's guilt. You know -- people who say things like, "Why don't you find a pro-Davey blog, this is an anti-Davey blog."

One of the main tactics they used to dismiss the opinions of anyone who disagreed with them was to immediately accuse them of being Davey, Perry, etc. That hasn't changed much, has it?

Me2l said...

I don't know about Davey's guilt/innocence. He doesn't appear to be grief-stricken, but that's not necessarily a sign of guilt.

With me, it's not even the point. Peter's blog posts are excellent and provide much food for thought, but then, go to the comments section, and it's like entering a dream world, where fiction has been told for so long, it passes for reality.

How is that helpful?

Anonymous said...

Peter never analyzed this https://daveyblackburn.com/2016/04/14/would-she-have-still-said-yes/ blog, which Davey posted the same day as the Nothing is Wasted blog (which Peter did analyze here: http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2016/04/davey-blackburns-blog-entry.html

In the Would She Still Have Said Yes blog, Davey has referenced this "preparation" in many comments. Here, he prefaces the "preparing" with "honestly", AND places the words "I'm Sorry" in Amanda's mouth.

We were spending some time as a leadership team praying and worshiping, honestly preparing our hearts to listen for the plans Jesus had next for our church. It was one of those moments you could feel something different in the atmosphere. Almost as if Jesus himself was sitting in the room with us. Amanda led out in prayer. In tears she said, “Jesus I’m sorry for the times I make my life about my agenda. I want my agenda for my life to be Your agenda for my life.”

That simple prayer opened the floodgates for prayer after prayer from our team all congruent with this one theme: SURRENDER. Amanda led the way in surrender. Surrender to a greater plan. Surrender to a greater story. Surrender to a greater God than anything she could have ever imagined or fabricated.


There are so many extra words in this story.

Amanda was already a godly, surrendered woman.
Her journals are clear evidence.

Davey is saying Amanda now led the way in surrender to a
Greater Plan
Greater Story
Greater God
than anything she could have
imagined (SHE ALREADY KNEW GOD! THERE IS NO NEED TO IMAGINE!)
or
fabricated

FABRICATED

FABRICATED?

HISG said...

Throwing out different scenarios is how you solve a crime. Otherwise how will you peel back the layers to find out what actually happened? Noone is going to do it for you.

Also, I stand by all analysis Ive done, including the SCAN I did onAmber's posting and the areas of sensitivityI pointed out. My concerns about the attaining and posting of the surveillance video remain, and I stand by the the theories Flightful and I came up with as stemming from legitimate concerns about the attaining/posting of the surveillance video.

Where is the common sense even? How can anyone who is a regular here NOT think that the attaining/posting of that surveillance video is not suspicious? Because of the way it is presented to you, that Amber claims it was offered to her and isnt it wonderful? Nevermind the sensitivity all through her account. I cant tell you what her getting the video and posting it means, but I will say no way do I believe that video was offered to her. And no other pics from the special day? I stand by it. It is suspicious. Period.

HISG said...

Me2l, I love how you're kissing up to Peter and putting us down...even though all you do is mock SA and we've read through all the things he's taught and actually consider SA valid. You have mocked SA over and over so it's hilarious to read your kiss-up post.

HISG said...

I have a ques. also for anyone tech savvy. Since she says the video was mailed to her, not sent through the computer, how and would it be a difficult process to convert the mailed video into something that could be posted on facebook?

Anonymous said...

Davey has his starter cult.

Hopefully no one else will be surrendered to his greater plan.

That is my prayer.

Anonymous said...

Liar HISG said she was leaving AGAIN but stayed AGAIN.

HISG said...

Youre the liar Me2l, and your insults towards me dont disprove any of my points. You're the liar. Youve mocked SA literally hundreds of times and then post saying Peters blog posts are excellent. They are, but why do you mock SA over and over then? You have, and its been pointed out to you by multiple posters.

Hey Jude said...

Me21 - you are part of the problem, some days I think you are a shill for Davey - most days I think you're just another of ABB's sock puppets and having a ball with yourself - each to their own, but I don't find it clever or entertaining, whoever you aren't.

I wish the nonsense would stop - maybe we might have to wait a long time for the next Blackburn article, but I suppose that's the hope behind your trashing of the comments section. If I was Peter, I wouldn't be too inclined to post a new Blackburn article just in order for the nastiness to start all over on the front page.

Why do you seem to want to put off all the posters, knowing so few people can be bothered since the overtake of the comment section with continual vacuous trashy insult?

If you don't want to discourage posters, why continue to bait and feed 'the trolls'? I think because you are all one and the same. HISG articulated what this is perfectly somewhere - I can't be bothered to find the quote, but of course, you'll know it as you wrote it.

HISG said...

Hey Jude,

I am not Me2l. If I articulated something perfectly it's because I know what's going on regarding Me2l and I recognize exactly what he is doing.

Hey Jude said...

Lol, nice try - of course you know what is going on. :)

Anonymous said...

Me2l is very close (emotionally, but not in a good way) to Davey.

Skill with words.
A brilliant, controlling mind.
A very mean streak.
Verbally abusive and belittling.

Sounds a lot like Davey may have described his own father.

IF Me2l were Davey's own father, his words here fit.

There may be a disturbing sense of pride that
IF
Davey
orchestrated
Amanda's death
and
linguistically
gets away with it

HIS KID IS A FREAKING GENIUS!

THE APPLE DOES NOT FALL FAR.

HISG said...

Also, he's not ABB, I reread some of his posts accusing others of being ABB and I also reread some of ABB's posts in the Blackburn threads and found a little clue in something he said when he was accusing others of being ABB that proves there is no way he is ABB. This clue has to do with him using one of the big words ABB used, and when he was laughed at for using the word, he wrote "oh I mean -----", writing a word that was one letter different than the word ABB used, and which is also a legitimate word. He was trying to imitate ABB's word choice and got confused.

Me2l said...

Much as you want me to be someone other than who I am, you are wrong. I have nothing to do with Davey Bkackburn. I dislike what I have seen of him in media and on social media. I do not know ABB, although I think that screen name was posting when I first began to read this blog several months ago. I noticed the moniker, ABB, because of what I recall to be the emotional outbursts from "it."

Again, if SA is in the hands of people who can't discern the crazies among you, then it's no wonder SA is coming off as looking less than valid.

I may be "part of the problem" for pointing out the "problem", but the real problem here is the increasingly fantasy-like turn the comments have taken. It is neither SA nor analysis; it is imagination....the more outrageous, the better. Oneupmanship?

HISG said...

He's not Davey's father either. He is someone who does not like SA. He is very controlling, although I wouldnt say he is that brilliant. He is angry at me also.

Anonymous said...

I have nothing to do with Davey Bkackburn.

Not a reliable denial.

HISG said...

The truth is often stranger than fiction. Me2l has been mocking me as well as my writing as far back as 20 years ago. He told me how stupid something I wrote was even though I had won the writing contest--top winner out of every grade at my high school.

HISG said...

Also, why do you need to call ABB "it"? I have actually gotten into an argument with ABB but for the most part I enjoyed reading her posts. Her posts were interesting to read and intelligent. What did ABB do that was so offensive?

HISG said...

And yes Me2l is extremely verbally abusive, almost sadistic in that regard. It's actually horrific to be subjected to it.

HISG said...

Me2l, I enjoyed reading ABB's posts and you can go to hell for calling ABB an "it" Me2l. Seriously, you are such a nasty denigrating person especially to women, who cares if you are intelligent. Youre a brutal person, so who gives a sh&t if youre smart? Wasnt Adolph Hitler intelligent too?

HISG said...

Anon @ 1:56,

He doesnt know Davey Blackburn.

Me2l said...

LOL

A couple of things here.....

I thought you weren't responding to me. Why do you stalk me?

Now I know: HISG=ABB

LOLOL

Me2l said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Me2l said...


"Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have nothing to do with Davey Bkackburn.

Not a reliable denial.

June 18, 2016 at 1:56 PM"


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Reliable gross stupidity. ^^^^^^^

Concerned said...

Hey Jude, Bobcat, Bingo3, Mom2many & a few others,
I think it's possible to take back the comments section if those interested in
good discussion could just ignore HISG under various names and Me2l under
his/hers.

Most here seem to realize that we are just discussing various scenarios
and not making claims to have the Statement Analysis training Peter has attained.
Let's let the two who enjoy inane conflict keep hashing it out (or faking it) while we refuse
to make comments and encourage them.

It would certainly not surprise me if they were actually Davey, Perry or someone else with a
vested interest in shutting down intelligent conversation about Davey's possible guilt
and absolute inability to bring the lost to God.

Someone here suggested a book I just completed, "The Sociopath Next Door" and I too highly
recommend it. Used copies are available for just a couple of dollars + shipping on Amazon. You
will be surprised how well Davey fits into this psychiatric category.

mom2many said...

If a commentor is certain he or she is right, has no desire to pursue further information, and is unwilling to take correction, I attempt to interact as little with him or her as possible. Repeatedly hammering the same nail is equally tiresome.

Anonymous said...

"Concerned" you wrote

It would certainly not surprise me if they were actually Davey, Perry or someone else with a
vested interest in shutting down intelligent conversation about Davey's possible guilt
and absolute inability to bring the lost to God.

Really? You think that Davey and Perry or "someone else" is so concerned about what is discussed here and would dedicate lots of their time into shutting down conversation her lmao. Like we're on the FBI and on their trail LMAO.

And I keep hearing Davey described as being so brilliant. I would love someone to copy and paste one "brilliant" thing he has said.

Hey Jude said...

Yes, and yes, Concerned and Mom2Many. So much inanity and distraction to scroll through, though - Bobcat rises to the bait, too, which is a pity as she works so hard on this case. If we all would resist the temptation, yes - I don't like to ignore anyone though, even if they are being stupid. They catch us by putting in an occasionally good point - it's part of her trolling method, engage interest or sympathy - sound normal, then start it all over again. I think not to engage or respond to anyone who can't be civil to any other on here. I don't know what it is - one person trying to demonstrate their superiority, batting off against her own sock puppets - or a Davey shill who HISG has fixated on as some spectre from her past. They are online together, which suggests they are all the one person, most easily explained as a 'stalker' - one always waiting for the other to come online. Tedious, whatever it is. And HISG is ABB, I think...though one never should be too confident - I know it is a pain to be accused of being someone else. Argh, ranting - head done in. :-/

HISG said...

Me2l,

REally? You friggin put me down in almost every post you write talking about me nearly constantly. I'm so sorry was I not allowed to retort to your latest trashing of me?

You also constantly insult me, focusing mainly on my (according to you, lack of intelligence and craziness).

Why don't you go tell the professor who offered me (I did not apply for one he approached me and offered me one) a Fulbright Scholarship. One of his reasons for doing so was that he discovered at the end of his semester long Chaucer course that I was taking, that the entire class got either D's or F's on the Final exam, because a large part of the test was translation.

I got a 96 on the test and he wanted to talk to me further. He told me that he was impressed that I had gotten the translation section on the text absolutely perfect and explained that the rest of the class all got F's. I told him yeah you told us to learn how to read the Middle English so I did. He said yes he had discovered the rest of the class read translations. I showed him that I had taught myself to pronounce the Middle English nearly perfectly, could read it fluently, and could translate an entire Chaucer tale in writing into modern English with no assistance of any kind-(no word definitions, nothing) etc into modern English. He said in his decades of teaching Chaucer not one of his students was ever able to do what I could do with Middle English. Why don't you go tell him how stupid I am and how "crazy"? Oh yes I'm so friggin stupid with the English language I shouldn't even allowed to explore statement analysis. You can kiss my ass ya friggin big mouth shit talker.

HISG said...

No I'm not ABB. But just out of curiosity, as I have only read her posts back on the Ayla threads and the Blackburn threads, why is she disliked? Why do people think she poses as other people (or has puppets)? I am asking because I just don't know if she did something that would make people think that or make people dislike her.

truth hurts said...

ABB is extremely mentality ill, and all she talked about was butt sex and what a great Christian she is. She is full of hate and continually attacked commenters who were trying their best to ignore her. Does that answer your question?

Anonymous said...

truth still hurts....

HISG is terribly mentally ill and posts her delusions for everyone to see. She is full of hate and obsessed with "gay sex"

She claims to be a Christian.

ABB is HISG

Anonymous said...

No I'm not ABB.

truth hurts wrote

"ABB is extremely mentality ill",

What is your evidence ABB is mentally ill?




and all she talked about was butt sex and what a great Christian she is.

I read her posts, and that is not all she talked about.


She is full of hate and continually attacked commenters who were trying their best to ignore her.

I read through her posts on the lengthy Blackburn thread, and I didn't see where she attacked any commenters. Could you please cut and paste the specific words where ABB attacked any other commenter?

Does that answer your question?"

No, it doesn't answer it.

Anonymous said...

anon wrote

truth still hurts....

"HISG is terribly mentally ill

Really? What is your evidence that she is "terribly mentally ill". That's a very strong statement. CAn you back it up?



and posts her delusions for everyone to see.

Just bc you don't agree with what she writes, doesn't mean that they are "delusions".




She is full of hate and obsessed with "gay sex"

Who does she claim to hate? Don't say "gay people" bc she specifically said she doesn't hate them and treats them kindly.

How is she obssessed with gay sex just because she said she think it is disgusting. Stop twisting things.

She claims to be a Christian."

Yeah. And? Do you have a problems with that?

ABB is HISG

No ABB is not HISG.

truth hurts said...

Anon @3:59, oh I know she is.

Hey Jude said...

Last one: I don't hate ABB, or anyone. I very much dislike a lot of what the troll poster/s say, the lack of civility, the vandalism of the board, and the general disregard and disrespect for everyone here. I do not like the behaviour - at least while HISG was posting as ABB there were some gem troll posts, now,it's just tedious, except for the bits where, after a vicious attack, she thanks God she's such a good Christian. I can't help enjoying that, though I shouldn't. :) Strange sense of humour, yes. You need to get over wanting to be loved while you behave like a banshee, ABB - even if your Middle English is good. (So is Mr Jude's but he doesn't let it go to his head.) Why didn't you take up the scholarship? - you could have saved us all from this constant need to prove yourself. Do you always have to be the smartest one in the room?

---

I don't hate you, ABB, you're a pain, for sure. I'm sure at least some others don't hate you either - only that you mess up the board, and couldn't give a toss about the rest of us. That's not very nice - admittedly a troll doesn't set out to be nice. I don't know why I'm bothering - I just wish you would stop it, and get over whatever it is which makes you want to do it. :-/

Anonymous said...

Hey Jude, Concerned, mom2many,

I do rise to the bait, but it is also an interesting challenge to use my beginner SA on Me2l/HISG. IF Me2l is connected to Davey (or IS Davey), many of the statements are SA gifts. Some of my 'taking the bait' comments may actually BE bait, and it has been interesting to see follow up comments in those instances. It is also possible that Me2l has some other reason to troll Peter's blog, thought I can't discern it if that is the case.

Anyhoo...

In the newest blog, Davey uses the word "transcribing".

Leakage?

Anonymous said...

Oooh! He must be talking about YOU, bobcat! How exciting for you! There's no way anyone would EVER use the word transcribe unless they're talking about YOU!!!!

Concerned said...

Bobcat at 4:41
It's not my business to tell you what to do but it might help stop the distraction
if we just ignored their verbal wrangling altogether. I'm not sure there's anything
to gain from doing SA on an unidentified game-player.
I appreciate all the time you've put into transcribing words of which Davey takes
ownership and I hope you continue to do that for us and others who want to see
justice done. He is definitely leaking.

Thanks, Mom2many and Hey Jude for good posts today.

Anonymous said...

I believe the last time Peter commented here, he said something to effect of how our statements reveal ourselves, and that Part IV would be up soon.

Part III came out a month ago.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jude,

Maybe you're a troll. I noticed how tight you are with ima.grandma...if I had to use my SA skills I would say you are ima.grandma (the biggest troll on here) as well as foodiefoodnerd.

Bobcat,

Why would you think Me2l is Davey or knows Davey? Because he doesnt agree with SA or the take on Davey here? What SA gems have you garnered from Me2l? Can you name one? Some kind of clue you feel he's given that would help "solve" the case?

And you also feel Me2l IS HISG? WHY? Are their writing styles alike? No. The fact they totally dislike each other...yes that's normally a great indicator they are the same person right?

Your little theory that Derrik feeding his dog a line of cheese somehow related to one of the thugs being called "Cheese" and that that therefore suggested Taylor might have been messed up on "cheese heroine" and that that meant maybe the CI was lying about Taylor's involvement was literally the most ridiculous thing Ive ever read on here hun.

Anonymous said...

Actually, HISG/Anonymous 4:58, your theory that Davey shot Amanda 24 hours before the thugs showed up, and that Amber is somehow complicit, is the most ridiculous theory here, hun, but the cheese heroin thing is a close second.

Anonymous said...

Think what you want Me2l. That's what I get from looking at the language, and if you dont like it I dont give a rat's ass.

And Hey Jude, The only one who's actions could be construed as "vandalizing" the board are ima.grandma/avinom sapir troll. Didnt you say you emailed ima.grandma's daughter to express your concern for ima.grandma's mental illness? How would you know that info? Ive never seen anyone on here write their full name.

Hey Jude said...

Bobcat - okay, it's not for me to tell you what to do. :).

I noticed the 'transcribe' too - is he writing/typing someone's dictation, copying or plagiarising. or maybe working with someone on writing his more saccharin posts? I suppose he could be transcribing his own handwriting, but if you're writing a blog-post, isn't it a lot faster and easier to compose it in draft on the blog and then just post it when satisfied?

--


No, I'm not Ima.grandma, or anyone except me. I'm not tight with anyone, I'm autistic, lol. :)

Hey Jude said...

ABB - No, it was not me who emailed Ima,grandma's daughter I suspected she was catfishing and that all the family profiles were fakes or someone else's family. IDK - maybe too suspicious there. Sometimes I have wondered if you are Ima.grandma. I know you will hate me for saying it, but I decided Ima grandma is more intelligent than you. That's not to say you're not intelligent or an ace at Middle Englsh, perish the thought, just that Ima grandma is differently intelligent and more civilised than you, at least when she is not out of her mind, or acting out of her mind. There were some similarities when she became abusive,mans I was amused when she said she was signing up for Peter's course - that was good trolling, or at least I hope it was trolling. Shut up, me. Let's leave foodie out of it - she has a brain tumour.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jude,

That's right sweetie, you decided ima.grandma is more intelligent than me bc you are imagrandma lol. Imagrandma is more intelligent than me in the sense she's really good at simulating various mental illnesses. I agree with you there.

What I said about Middle English was to defend myself against Me2l's attacks bc Im sick of him telling me how stupid I am when he's actually told me before how smart I am. That was the context it was said in...not to brag.

Ive only told one other person in my life about that Fulbright offer bc I dont give a crap about that kind of stuff, but if someone going to verbally abuse me over and over telling me how simple-minded I am, I damn well have the right to tell them about my intelligence being acknowledged by intelligent professors.

Anonymous said...

Troll jealousy rears its ugly head.

Me2l said...

The few "analysts" left here (3? 4?) have discredited themselves with their suspicion of anyone who disagrees with them, but the clincher is when they begin to theorize who may be what screen name. If they only knew how they have devalued their SA skills by doing that, because those to whom they apply their dubious to non-existent ability know how far off the grid they are. It's one of the reasons I've lost all respect. These people are jokes! Their conspiracy theories only highlight an unrealistic view of reality (clue: reality exists outside this comments section). The competent analysts have dropped out, and the place is left in the hands of a nut job and three other self appointed sleuths who are clueless and apparently see Davey under every rock.

BTW, I never post anonymously, but you crack analysts should be able to pick up on that FACT pretty easily.

Take imagrandma .... please (as the tired joke goes) .....how dense must an SA practitioner be to miss the myriad clues the dingbat "telegraphed"? She claimed to be 102 years old, and in a comment, described how she had just returned from visiting her parents and grandparents. Brilliant. Just brilliant. When I estimated what these people's ages would have to be, imagrandma threw one of her Rumpelstiltskin fits and flew all to pieces.

That wasn't SA. It was old fashioned common sense--a rarity here.

(I'm not a he.)

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure the imagrandma who said she's 102 was when HISG was pretending to be imagrandma. She eventually admitted to being the imagrandma whose name was in black instead of blue.

Me2l said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Troll jealousy rears its ugly head.

June 18, 2016 at 6:02 PM




I know you include me in that, but that's pretty witty.
Lol

Me2l said...

Well, I was pretty sure the one I had the discussion with was HISG, and shortly after that, she became more scarce in these here parts. She probably got tired of the game.

Anonymous said...

Me2l, Are you friggin kidding us? You accuse people of writing under other screennames daily including episodes of paranoia where you accused everyone of being a "sock" of HISG (and that is when there were many more posters than there are now) lol!

Anonymous said...

While I think you are totally trolling Me2!, that comment was more for HSIG getting jealous of her other sock puppet trolls.

She's become the Jan Brady in this saga.

And I here I was still morning the loss of All My Children, but now we have All My Trolls.

BTW, Me2! was this your site?:

http://abbswallows.blogspot.com/

Me2l said...

Oh good grief.

The gay sex obsession should tell you exactly whose site it is.

ABB=HISG

Anonymous said...

That ABB swallows thing was made by someone she pissed off prior to the Blackburn case if I'm not mistaken. If you go back to all the stupid butter/Last Tango in Paris shit, there is someone commenting who already hated her before that.

Did that make sense?

I'm pretty positive Me2l had nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

And there used to be more stuff about ABB there that now appears to be gone.

Me2l said...

That's definitely NOT my style.

Anonymous said...

Oh wow Me2l, whoever made the site making fun of ABB seems to be an immature POS. That's one thing I can SA about it...a total loser made it.

Anonymous said...

You're a sick little puppy huh Me2l.

Me2l said...

I would say whoever posted that link here is the person who created the site.

But you idiot analysis experts should know that.

Anonymous said...

It wasn't you who posted the link Me2l? Really? You're an immature POS.

Me2l said...

Are you still stalking me, gay-bashing HISG?

Anonymous said...

Hehehehehe Me2l rubs his hands together at how very clever he thinks he is.

YOu came here to this site to stalk me, and you're ABB link is putrid and that's the last thing I'll say to you cause you ain't worth any of my time or attention.

Me2l said...

Sicko

Hey Jude said...

Me21 - SA isn't geared towards party-games, plus most, probably all of us still here, are not analysts proper, we just try (sometimes) to practice at it and to apply what knowledge we do have to the cases under discussion. You must be pretty desperate to try to discredit SA if you are willing to claim that inaccuracy in troll-identification in a comments section by non-analysts has any type of relation to SA, or to what Peter does. Quite desperate, which is interesting.

----
Still, enough already, I am not engaging any further with anything on this thread which is not related to the Blackburn discussion,

Hey Jude said...

Except to say you are a free-range shill who has a grudge against Peter, and who is also ABB, HISG, and at least s half dozen others.
Goodnight. Keep,it classy.

Me2l said...

Hey Jude,

It has nothing to do with what Peter does. That's what I've said all along.

Anonymous said...

Me2l is right. It's the comments in the Blackburn threads that make SA look like a joke, not Peter's posts.



You really seemed to enjoy chatting with ABB/HISG when she posted anonymously in the Rainn Peterson thread, Hey Jude. You guys were like two peas in a pod, making a mockery of SA while accusing the man who found Rainn of hiding her then pretending to find her. You're no better than she is.

Me2l said...

Anon, the "analysts" who remain here are all very similar....full of hot air theories.

Peter's analyses and blog posts are thought-provoking and informative. This makarkey in the comments is just worthless.

snap said...

Feel you at 1:41
Agreed Concerned.

I ignore posts from the the United States of Troll gang and persons who post as anonymous; and, reactions to the aforementioned.

Which thins the posts substantially on most comment sites.

Hey Jude said...

Rainn Petersen's Case is still under investigation - I still think the guy who found her hid her, if I am wrong, I will learn from it. That little baby didn't survive all that time outside on her own, and that is for sure.

You've been around a long while Me21/Anon if you go back to Rainn, and remember ABB on that - like because you are ABB and suchlike. I am no better than ABB, I agree, and no better than anyone else either - i do behave better though, and I like people better than ABB/you/HISG seem to. Goodnight.

Anonymous said...

Me2l, are you HISG?

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone think he is ABB or HISG when he has professed to hating both of them? I'm not understanding that.

Me2l said...

You are wrong. I have been here since late November or early December, and what brought me here was the Bkackburn case. I was never involved in any other discussion here before that.

I log in to post to avoid being mistaken for the other anons, and if you SA experts were astute, you would be able to clearly differentiate by words, phrases, sentences, patterns and tones of speech. Instead, you all wear tinfoil hats.

Me2l said...

I am not HISG. She and I sound nothing alike.

I am not a he.

Anonymous said...

Anon wrote

You really seemed to enjoy chatting with ABB/HISG when she posted anonymously in the Rainn Peterson thread, Hey Jude. You guys were like two peas in a pod, making a mockery of SA while accusing the man who found Rainn of hiding her then pretending to find her. You're no better than she is.

I am actually of the belief that the man who "found" her actually did hide her before pretending that he "found" her. Read a little more about criminology and learn some SA and maybe you won't attack posters as much for the opinions they form.

What do you believe happened to the girl? She just survived on her own? Her hair not even messed up? HOw did she even arrive in the field where she was "found", a field where searchers had already looked? HOw is that any more "absurd" than believing that the man hid her and then pretended to "find" her?

You think you know everything about everything "anon" but you don't.

Anonymous said...

You were calling the guy a "psycho," HISG/ABB. Why don't you tell us, according to SA, what he said that made you think he's a "psycho."

Anonymous said...

Me2l,

so you're not the one who stated that Hey Jude was talking to an anon poster in the RAinn thread who you somehow felt was HISG or ABB? That's a load of horseshit to imply you weren't the poster who said that.

Anonymous said...

I will anon. Why don't you tell me which person (screen name) I am talking to first. You're an "anon" who is angry about what another "anon" said in another thread over a year ago and accusing that anon of being HISG or ABB yet you don't have to say who you are? HOw does that work again?

Anonymous said...

First of all, ABB/HISG, I'm not Me2l. Secondly, you admitted recently it was you. Duh.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I did believe the guy who said he found her hid her and pretended to find her. Whoever you are "anon" why have been stewing about it for how long ago was it? Over a year? If you don't agree with that take on the Rainn Peterson case, wouldn't most people just think to themselves, oh that doesn't sound right, I don't agree with that and move on?

If I'm wrong about it, then I'm wrong. I think I am right. Can I prove it? No. Am I omniscient? No. ARe you omniscient? NO.

I'm sure Ive said things on here that were wrong, probably outright ridiculous at times, howeever I think I've said some things on here that were extremely intelligent. If you don't agree with that...who cares?

I think most posters on here are sometimes right, sometimes wrong, and sometimes probably say things that are way off, other times say things that are right on.

I would never lose sleep over it. Who cares? Why do you care so much?

Anonymous said...

What are you the thought police? It seems you've scoured the past year of threads to find anything you didn't like and then you are bitching and whining about it. Who cares? If you don't agree with something, express your opinion and move the hell on. Why in God's name are you bringing up stuff from the Rainn Peterson thread? And then you're asking why I thought the guy was a "psycho" when you obviously read whatever I said. Why do you care so much? Totally insane.

Hey Jude said...

Anon at 9.09 - theatre, with one person assuming many characters, is why. Some set up a whole 'community' of interacting characters who don't necessarily like each other. Here intended as a display of her incomparable brilliance and ability to outwit all we dimwit idiots. Complete with free range Shillery. God knows what Peter said or failed to say to 'deserve' have his blog so assaulted. I wish they would grow up.

Apologies to serious posters, and to Peter, for adding to the noise - it doesn't help.


Anonymous said...

Hey Jude,

You wrote

"Some set up a whole 'community' of interacting characters who don't necessarily like each other."

Really? How would you know that? HOw would you know that "some" set up a whole "community" of interacting characters?"

That's not what is going on here, and very strange you would think that unless you yourself do it.

Me2l said...

Blogger Hey Jude said...
Anon at 9.09 - theatre, with one person assuming many characters, is why. Some set up a whole 'community' of interacting characters who don't necessarily like each other. Here intended as a display of her incomparable brilliance and ability to outwit all we dimwit idiots. Complete with free range Shillery. God knows what Peter said or failed to say to 'deserve' have his blog so assaulted. I wish they would grow up.

Apologies to serious posters, and to Peter, for adding to the noise - it doesn't help.


**********************************

"Serious Poster" ^^^^^^^^^

flightfulbird said...

From Davey's "5 Words That Will Make His Day" post -

"I was reminded of how much these words meant to me the other day when I received this text from a friend who is both a wife and a mom to a great family:

"Hey Davey. Following you on snapchat and just wrapping my mind around the way you’re embracing this new way of life and moving forward. I’m blown away at your discipline, determination and intention on being the best dad you can be – playing both roles as parent, and also leading and pastoring your church. I know some days you must feel so tired, so drained, and frankly, probably pissed at life. I just want you to know what an incredible job you’re doing. You’re impacting so many lives by the way you’re living out The Gospel! I know Amanda is SO PROUD of you! I’m proud of you, too. Just wanted to encourage you to keep on going. You’re doing a GREAT job. Love you and praying for you!" "


The blog post is about Amanda saying “I’m so proud of you”. Forgive my skepticism, but what are the chances that a random friend (wife and mom) would write this in these words? And what are the chances that later the exact same day that this text came through, Davey would be spending time with Amanda’s grandmother and she would tell him “Amanda would be so proud of you”?

Ok, either Davey totally wrote this flowery text message and hit all of the bullet points -
- someone (a friend) is following him
- the friend is wrapping her mind around the way he's embracing this new way of life and moving forward (WTF? )
- the friend is blown away at his discipline, determination and intention on being the best dad he can be, playing both roles as parent
- the friend also includes "leading and pastoring your church."
- the friend expresses concern for him ("I know some days you must feel so tired, so drained, and frankly, probably pissed at life" (actually you must want to curl up into the fetal position and get underneath a rug)
- the friend builds him up ("you’re doing an incredible job")
- the friend includes "you’re impacting so many lives" and confirms that he is living out the gospel
- the friend knows Amanda is SO PROUD of him - supporting the blog post
- the friend is also proud and wants him to keep on going, that he is doing a GREAT job
- the friend loves him and is praying for him


- or maybe this happened exactly as he said and a friend really spontaneously wrote and sent this flowery text message that conveniently hit all of the bullet points - but it sounds like over the top language and it all so neatly fits the agenda of the post.

Whatever Davey wants to get us to try to believe, he writes or says - and we are expected to believe it because why? Some will think or outright say how can we not trust him? But we know he flat-out lied in the Love Song Week 6 Q&A when Amanda gently said “that’s not true” when Davey told the story about the couple who was thinking about leaving the church “just the other day”. We know his version of the events of the morning of November 10th have changed several times, as well as what he thought when he walked in. Which is true?


As Keanu Reeves said to Bodhi in the movie “Point Break”, you gotta earn trust. I am free to express that I do not trust a thing Davey says right now - and anyone is free to disagree, obviously. He can write anything he wants and say it’s from a friend or the Queen of England and unless the friend or the Queen of England confronts or stands up to him (as Amanda did), we would never know the difference - and he counts on this.

This blog post and text angers me. And how many times did he say he was brought to tears. I thought he had cried all of his tears that day when he was lying in the same spot as he found Amanda and running toward the roar for 30-45 minutes.

Anonymous said...

I share your suspicions that an unidentified Mom did not write the text.

When I first read it, my first impression was that Amber wrote it. Something of the tone in it, along with the capitalized words in the middle of sentences which seem to be the same type of words she tends to capitalize. Either that or he wrote it to himself.

The "Im so proud of you" blog post...I guess I believe he wrote it, except the one phrase "lasso the moon" is very peculiar, not commonly used, and strikes me as feminine. However, I suppose he wrote it I guess.

anon said...

Flightful,

if you go look at Davey's blog posts: look at "Home" by Amber and you will see the capitalized words in the middle of sentences along with the use of dashes/hyphens. These 2 things (cap words in middle of sentences along with dashes or hyphens appear in the text).

If you look at Davey's post "Five Words", which I do believe he wrote, you will not see a single capitalized word in the middle of sentences or any use of hyphens or dashes to separate sentences or phrases.

Concerned said...

The blog posts definitely have a feminine slant.
Amber could indeed be writing them as a favor to Davey and perhaps
thinks this is something she can still do for Amanda. She has been encouraged
by people on Facebook to write a book about Amanda. She seems to be an
unselfish and loving sister and I could totally see her doing this.
Amber is married to Davey's best friend from way back so she would also
be pleasing her husband by coming up with posts which shed a positive light on Davey
while us trolls try to put him down!

Asking Amber to do it could be Davey's way of keeping her busy writing what will
ultimately be content for his own "Amanda's Story".
Not SA...Just my thoughts.

flightfulbird said...

I think he wrote the blog post - I'm just not sure if everything in it happened the way he said it did. And I also thought of Amber when I read the words in caps in the middle of sentences in the text. That text from the "friend who is also a wife and mom" is written in trademark/textbook Amber style.

We know that Amber is a wife and mother - I guess even though she's a sister-in-law, she could still be described as a friend - and that would look better than saying he got that text from a relative (or actually saying it was from Amber).

Anonymous said...

Flightful,

I agree, I don't think that things happened the way Davey said they did in his "Five Words" blog post. I also don't think Mamaw told him she was "so proud of him"...sometimes I wonder if this grandmother "Mamaw", while I'm sure she does exist, is sometimes incorporated into the stories for fictional purposes. (ie. the grandma dinner)
The text I definitely think is from Amber or was written for Davey's story by Amber as a bit of co-authoring. One part that troubles me in the text is "I know Amanda would be so proud of you." How would a random Mom "know" that?

flightfulbird said...

Compare this from Davey's "Would She Still Have Said Yes" blog post from April 14th to Ashley Barrett's Facebook post from January 6th -

Davey's words -

We were spending some time as a leadership team praying and worshiping, honestly preparing our hearts to listen for the plans Jesus had next for our church. It was one of those moments you could feel something different in the atmosphere. Almost as if Jesus himself was sitting in the room with us. Amanda led out in prayer. In tears she said, “Jesus I’m sorry for the times I make my life about my agenda. I want my agenda for my life to be Your agenda for my life.”

That simple prayer opened the floodgates for prayer after prayer from our team all congruent with this one theme: SURRENDER. Amanda led the way in surrender. Surrender to a greater plan. Surrender to a greater story. Surrender to a greater God than anything she could have ever imagined or fabricated."


Ashley's words -

Our leadership team was spending the weekend in Cincinnati, dreaming together, talking vision and hopes for Resonate, discussing plans on how we could reach our city. We also ate looooots of food and ventured around the city just enjoying each others' company.

On Friday night, when this picture was taken, we all huddled in what used to be the gym of the hotel we stayed at. We sang songs, worshipped together, and some of us shared and prayed about what Jesus was speaking to each of us personally. I remember Amanda's prayer so vividly. That she wanted her own agenda to match God's agenda for her life. That she was sorry for ever making this life about herself, and that she was willing to do whatever Jesus wanted her to do so that lives could be eternally impacted.

If you know Amanda well, you know that she was selfless, always putting others before her own interests. I was always blown away by her willingness to dig deeper, to love greater, and to follow Jesus harder. She never settled, always striving to be the version of herself that Jesus intended for her life. Always seeking to follow God's exact plan for her life.

Looking back, it seems as though Jesus was preparing her heart. I'm not saying that she knew what would transpire in the next few days, but that Jesus was pulling her closer to Himself, and that she had reached a level of unity and intimacy with Jesus like some of us so long and strive for.

I'm so thankful for that moment that we all shared as a team. And I believe that Jesus was preparing each of us as well for the impossible road ahead. Jesus prepared the way, and is now walking it with us. Some days the steps seem easier, and some days I know He is carrying me through.

I'm thankful that this world is not our home, and I cannot wait until we can all huddle together and worship Him again."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpfbid=10206043269227811&set=a.3065014471376.2125562.1443930430&type=3&theater


Davey and Ashley are both describing the same event that happened on November 6th - roughly three months apart though. Did they compare notes to weave the story correctly and support the agenda - or did Davey draw his words from Ashley's post - or do they (uncannily) both use similar terminology and phrasing and have such similar memories of that experience?

flightfulbird said...

I see so many similarities in their words - and in their use of "we" and "our" in circumstances where "I" would be expected - and switching from "we" and "our" to "I" and back in the same paragraph.

Anonymous said...

Flightful,

Great find! That is SO eerie!!!

From Davey:

"Amanda led out in prayer. In tears she said, “Jesus I’m sorry for the times I make my life about my agenda. I want my agenda for my life to be Your agenda for my life.”

From Ashley:

"I remember Amanda's prayer so vividly. That she wanted her own agenda to match God's agenda for her life. That she was sorry for ever making this life about herself, "

You asked

"Davey and Ashley are both describing the same event that happened on November 6th - roughly three months apart though. Did they compare notes to weave the story correctly and support the agenda - or did Davey draw his words from Ashley's post - or do they (uncannily) both use similar terminology and phrasing and have such similar memories of that experience?"

I don't see how they could both just have, as you put it well, uncannily, used the same terminology. Or even focused in on the same things.

What is incredibly eerie is they both focus on her being "sorry" for the times when she had focused on her agenda and not God's, when, of course, we know that God's supposed agenda was for her to die for Davey's church.

My opinion: I think that they have talked about it. I think they have schemed together. They have denigrated her together about how "selfish" she was when she made things her "own agenda" instead of "God's" (aka. "their" agenda). Possibly they forced her or told her that she needed to say that prayer at their meeting apologizing for focusing on her own agenda. I feel it speaks to mutual denigration of her and to some kind of scheming together.

What do you think about it?

Anonymous said...

Heather, the guy in prison in California, and the texting wife/mom/friend represent demographics. I don't believe any of it.

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Me2l@1:54
"I have nothing to do with Davey Blackburn."
Me2l@8:26
It has nothing to do with what Peter does."
Me2l@9:12
"I am not a he."

"Nothing to do with" is not a reliable denial.

Also noted:
Extremely defensive regarding usage of "on" vs. "for" as applied to Zyrtec.
Affirmed being from the South.
Came here in late November and IS STILL HERE.

Why here?

To insult "inane" theories using smart yet nasty language?
"Not a he" has the entire internet to get its troll on.

Why here?

Who is as close to Davey as you can get? (Imagine Dr. Evil and his loyal assistant) MEG
Who is from the South and a female? MEG
Compare Amber's memories to her posts before Amanda's death (and even her more recent, spontaneous posts). They're not the same style.
Who would help others edit their future blog posts for Davey's site? MEG
Whose old blog was all about SURRENDER? MEG
Who did Amanda kick off her couch? MEG
Who else writes with random caps in the middle of sentences, ..., and dashes? MEG
https://megs71385.wordpress.com/

8 weeks ago, Meg said this about Davey:
"I wish I could tell you what a blessing it is to follow a Pastor like Davey, but my words would never come close. These past five months have been the most difficult thing I've ever seen any one walk through ... And I've watched as Davey has walked through with grace, authenticity and unbelievable faith."
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEj7z1xOH_XopHh6hBIErC1er3PKNhxjw5ENFE0/

Anonymous said...

Meg = Frau Farbissina https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Frau_Farbissina_APIMOM.jpg

flightfulbird said...

I have long thought that the defensiveness and protectiveness toward Davey which is exhibited by certain posters on this board goes far beyond just objectivity or wanting to see both sides of an issue. It is very aggressive and often seems like it's personal.

It makes sense that Meg could be here in the form of Me2l. Everyone knows I think Davey reads here - but someone else is reading and posting here - reporting tidbits and questions and statements to him that he needs to address - and trying to shame us, chase us away, make us think our thoughts are not valid, make us doubt our intuition. .

It's not working. . .

And this post of Meg's from 8 weeks ago smacks of the same flowery words as the text from the friend who is a wife and mom - over the top. Same with tweets from Kenneth Wagner and others. They are building up their fragile Davey who has admitted that he is sensitive and needs this type of support.


Anonymous said...

Amanda had a lot of sick people around her. I believe there was more than one "player" who plotted against Amanda. Amber and Ashley are both on my radar. Meg I dont know much about. Me2l doesnt know Davey Blackburn. Yes it is odd how defensive he is and how aggressive but it is mainly lashing out at just about every poster, he doesnt spend much time defending Davey, and when he does it is done in a way with the objective to prove how "stuipid" posters are. I can tell you he does not know Davey or anyone associated with this case.

Anonymous said...

And this isnt to defend him! Just letting people know dont let him make you doubt your intuition (that is his goal) or to distract your attention from actual clues...he is not a clue...he's just someone who hates SA and most posters.

Hey Jude said...

I don't think Davey is all that close to Amber - he refers to Amber as 'Amanda's sister' rather than as his sister-in-law or as his sister. He says 'with Amber' rather than 'Amber and I' or 'Amanda and me, which is distancing. Amber is supportive of Davey, and he appreciates the support and maybe finds her and her writings helpful, but to him she is 'Amanda's sister' -!she is not 'my' anything to Davey. I have noticed it recently but don't know if that was always the case. It would be interesting to know if Davey has earlier referred to Amber as his sister in law or sister, and if the distancing is more recent.

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Megs is of rather better character than Me21, IMO.

Hey Jude said...

I meant 'Amber and me', not 'Amanda and me'.

Hey Jude said...

Also, I don't think Amber is in cahoots with Davey about anything - only she knows what Amanda said to her on the journey back from the airport, and at the indoor play park. I think the play park conversation was not as she said, or that she has at least changed the order of priority, and she also avoids saying what they talked about in the car on the way back to the grandmother's house. I'd say it was important, and something Amanda wanted to say once Amber's chatter subsided, but as she wanted more time, they extended it by getting 'lost' on a known route. She wanted to be alone with Amber, but we are not told why Amber returned from the family holiday earlier than the others - she said Amanda persuaded her to stay in Indy for a few days - it could be that Amanda had persuaded her to come home earlier, too. This was all around the ugly 'Worship as a Weapon' event, and Davey's odd pregnancy 'announcement', which did not even reference Amanda.

Amanda's parents, their own church's prayer requests, and the press reports in Elkhorn did not initially acknowledge that there had been a pregnancy - the unborn baby, though she apparently had a name, was not included in Amanda's funeral.

Me2l said...

Hey Jude said...
Me21 - SA isn't geared towards party-games, plus most, probably all of us still here, are not analysts proper, we just try (sometimes) to practice at it and to apply what knowledge we do have to the cases under discussion. You must be pretty desperate to try to discredit SA if you are willing to claim that inaccuracy in troll-identification in a comments section by non-analysts has any type of relation to SA, or to what Peter does. Quite desperate, which is interesting.


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Oh, I'm afraid you're mistaken. Why, bobcat has some of her best delusions using SA.

She has identified me as the troll, HISG, as Meg, and as old Davey-boy, himself, and she has done that using SA. YES, it's true! Apparently, the crack analyst, Bobcat, decided through her flawless analysis that one of my denials that I am Davey indicated deception (LOLOL. I'm sorry, I'm laughing out loud as I type this...you people crack me up!). Her powers are simply amazing!

And you geniuses wonder why you're turning this into a joke. Who can dream up this stuff? Better yet, how can it be taken seriously?

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

........when an unsuspecting reader happens upon this blog, curious about SA, and posters in the comments section are accusing each other of being Davey......


SMH!

Bingo3 said...

Concerned, thank you for your post! I think those of us who want to continue to discuss and analyse should be able to do so. I think everyone is entitled to their varying opinions and should do so without being bullied. None of us know for sure what exactly is going on because this case is one big head scratcher! Thanks to all of you who post discussion without lashing out at other posters. Ignoring posts that veer off from this case discussion is best. It is what I do and I am thrilled when I see a great insight in between all of the wasted space.

Great posts about the latest blog. You guys are right! The text from the other mother saying how great it is that DB has embraced his new way of life was odd. Who would say that to a recently widowed dad? The blog came across to me as extremely deceptive and way too perfect.(and as usual super self-serving) In my opinion, DB is writing a creative story and it is all so scripted. The script was in place even when she was in the hospital as Nothing is Wasted plays on Pandora. Maybe long before. There was the the romantic getaway preparing their hearts for the tragedy. There was the statement stating the best was yet to come and that there will still be church on Sunday. There was Amanda telling Davey (as they walked and talked about life insurance :/)to please make sure that if anything happens to her that the church will go on! There was the AB/DB watching of Braveheart over and over where the wife just happens to get killed. The gun performance at church and then the posting of it after she died. It is all so strange, no wonder many of us want to discuss. With each new sermon, interview and blog, there is always something new.

I am curious how the speaking engagements are going? I don't see any new ones up? Besides the few people he seems to have control over around him, I doubt many people are buying his story. Someone reposted the Newspring interview on Youtube and it didn't go over well with most people.

Hey Jude said...

Me21 -If you offer yourself as practice material, it's a bit churlish to complain when Bobcat practises.

Also, don't be afraid.


__

To your earlier question, I blogged before there were blogs - it was interesting to see which posters shared the same ISP address/es, what they wrote, and how they behaved.

Me2l said...

You're welcome to share/reveal my ISP. If you have it, you will see it belongs to me and only me.

The irony....people who are "analyzing" and see themselves as attempting to solve a murder case can't even accurately size up to whom they're speaking. It's comical.

When I found this blog, it was fascinating to me, because I thought it offered valuable information from Peter, but over the course of time, the comments section has become increasingly surreal. It's annoyingly stupid, and the obtuseness is obvious.

I've noticed you log in and out while posting. I will assume you are one of the many faces of HISG. Probably Bobcat, too.

Yeah, that's it.

Me2l said...

"None of us know for sure what exactly is going on because this case is one big head scratcher"

It is? Only here. Apparently LE is not mystified.

I think the mystery fir you analysts is you can't reconcile Davey's self-focus and disgusting public persona with the fact he can't be linked to his wife's murder. After all, he's a thoroughly awful pig. He MUST have killed his wife.

Hey Jude said...

'When I found this blog, it was fascinating to me, because I thought it offered valuable information from Peter, but over the course of time, the comments section has become increasingly surreal. It's annoyingly stupid, and the obtuseness is obvious.'

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There is a logic fail in your statement, Me21.

Does the blog offer valuable information from Peter, or does it not?
Does what follows your 'but' make the valuable information (you thought) it offered from Peter less valuable?
If so, how does that work, bearing in mind that you repeatedly claim the comments have nothing to do with SA, or with what Peter does?
How do the comments reduce the value of information from Peter, when his articles are not the comments?

--
I don't have your ISP - I'm sure it belongs to only you, but that doesn't mean you only post as Me21.

I don't think the intention is to 'solve' a murder case - it is to look at the language used by those who feature in 'Amanda's Story', and at what it may or may not point to. It is sometimes little more than opinion here, there is true - even so, some of that may be correct. Personally I am interested in the opinions of those who are trying to employ SA, or who are applying SA -if they are not even attempting to use SA, Websleuths would be more their environment. As you are here to denigrate and insult, and appear to believe that LE could not possibly have any interest in investigating Davey because you say so, it is pretty obvious that your interest is not in SA, except for a wish to discredit. As you are unable to discredit Peter's findings, you attack the comments - and altogether protesteth too much. You have major problems with your logic which is quite in common with some other disruptive elements here.

Fm25 said...

Davey's most recent blog post is obnoxious but not surprising coming from a narcissist. I found some of the language to be over the top. I think he must be trying to work on his writing style, maybe for his new book. The part about lasso-ing the moon angered me. He's never public ally expressed any desire to bring her back that I'm aware of, but he would to hear how proud she is of him. Also the part about men running to where they feel affirmed. We know davey was getting a lot of affirmation from females at his church so I wonder about that. And finally the text. I think he added the part about snapchat. I think it's someone close to him that sent text. Especially with the closing of love you. Maybe Ashley or Meg?
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I don't think all posters on here who disagree with the analyses of davey are him or friends of him. But one particular one does intrigue me and I wonder about her/his identity. I wonder if Peter is following these comments anymore now that this train has gone off the tracks. Thanks to those who have tried to keep things going!

Anonymous said...

Reliable denials would solve this easily if Me2l is not Meg or anyone else connected to DB.

They have not been forthcoming.

Meg was the perfect recruit for Newspring.
Single mother. She never had her father's last name.
Mother married when Meg was 7 and raised a second family.
The odd girl out.
Little girl lost? Not so fast.
She's smart. Razor sharp. (Great uncle is a JUDGE)
She lets Davey think he is smarter than her.
Davey likes having her around because she is smart,
and takes care of any/all odd requests (bib, jockstrap).

She sees herself as the plain Bella to beautiful Edward.
She's selfish and lazy (her words).
All she needs is a place to write, a roof, a bunk, and food.
To be Davey's gatekeeper, as intimate as can be with zero sexual requirement,
is the ideal setup as long as it keeps a roof over her head.

If she KNOWS who DB was connected to on 11/10/15
and is innocent, who would believe her if she turned him in?
She would incriminate herself for staying silent so long.

DB said "We have nothing to hide."
No one else hid themselves, except for Meg.

Anonymous said...

Raised by a single mother.
Meg is not a single mother.

snap said...

Davey's last blog is straight out of Dr Laura's "The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands", where she takes your 20 bucks and 200 pages worth of time to say wives should: feed, Ph^K, and pat their husbands on the butt daily to keep them motivated to provide and happy to be at home fathering their own offspring.

Maybe that would not be a bad exchange if the dude would actually "lay down his life for the wife" or minimally lock the front door and not church chat in the driveway with their little buddy after the warrior opportunity was missed.

Yes, Dr Laura explains men to be simple and needy. My dad gave me her book 10 years ago with 10 100 dollar bills book-marking sections around my tenth wedding anniversary so that I would read the book. I read the book.

I do think it is true that most men are more simple than most women; and men are more easily made happy and strifes more easily forgotten. Dogs and men are a lot a like- Similarly - feed them, walk them, say "good doggy" and they are loyally and happily yours for life. Teach them clever tricks and set boundaries they are even more companionable.

This is a good formula for a lot of people. There is a lot of truth in Davey's blog statement that men will hang where their ego gets stroked.

And this formula does work for a large percentage of people on the planet; and, an even higher percentage in the under 9 crowd.

For myself I want an equal friend and lover, not to be my husband's other mother. But that is a individual choice.

"Proud" gets thrown around a lot. People say they are proud of other peoples actions; not just their own achievements. I do not have that experience; but, - again- most people seem to feel proud of their friends or love-ones' accomplishments.

Again, folks are at different stages/levels.

Maslow's heirarchy of needs simplifies this:

(Basic needs to more complex needs)

Physiological Needs
Safety
Love & Belonging
Esteem
Self-Actualization

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I think it is pretty easy to see where Davey is stuck. This guy is an energy hog that needs a lot of stroking. You could even say he has a stroke dependency.

Labeling personality disorders can have a foundational basis from this inner-need.




However, this formula does work for a large percentage of people on the planet.

Me2l said...

Bobcat,

I have issued several "reliable" denials. Several. I have said, "I am not HISG." Etc. I have said it many times.

In the first place, I'm under no obligation to "issue" any denial to people who are so inept at recognizing truth, they see me as being everyone under the sun because I've offended them.

Because I know the truth where I'm concerned, it validates the worthlessness....not necessarily of SA, but of SA in the hands of people who can't separate their biases, perspective, and "feelings" from true statement analysis. You are as far from the truth as ever, and it looks as if you'll never progress.

As I've said many timesl, this blog is an utter joke, with the clumsy and faulty attempts at SA, intertwined with self-indulgence in the form of outrageous and unlikely theories.

The more efficient and capable SA practitioners have moved on, leaving it with the three or four who remain to write their fiction.

Fm25 said...

Me21, surely you can understand why long term followers suspect you are related to the case?

Anonymous said...

I am not Meg.
I am not Derek.
I am not Ashley.
I am not Davey.

Your turn.

When one cannot discredit the message, discredit the messenger.
See Lance Armstrong and Bill Cosby.

HISG said...

As much as I despise Me2l, Im starting to agree with him that some people here cant do SA very well.

The fact that when I have pointed out repeatedly that he is here bc he found I come here and he wanted to bother me on here, and somehow that gets translated to: No, Me2l IS HISG, and he is also Davey is BEYOND PREPOSTEROUS.

Me2l is not HISG. His writing is not like mine.

Me2l is not Davey. Dont you think if he WERE Davey he would be offering positive statements about Davey...for example "Davey's a nice person who loved Amanda." Can you find one positive thing he has said about Davey?

He is here to bother me because he is seeking vengeance for some reason that I dont even understand. I think he was angry I told him that I taught myself SA and it made him angry...I think his fixation on it is two-fold: He thinks I suck at it but at the same time is afraid I might be very good at it, so he tries to make me look as bad as possible.

Im done bc I cant take anymore of his lying about me and trying to ruin my experience here. If you guys want answers, look at Ambers 48 hour post...that's the only thing Ive looked at where SCAN would highlight sensitivity throught the piece.

Good luck.




HISG said...

And no, Me2l is not a "spector" from my past as someone said here yesterday. He is a guy who has always put down my intelligence. Why? He likes to tear women down apparently. I think he also doesnt like my creativity, yet is simultaneously drawn to it. Overall though, his goal is to stop women from thinking unless it is to echo his thoughts and opinions on matters. He attacks me for being Christian bc he is an atheist and considers that the superior, "rational" position to take on God. Gasp! How could anyone think differently than him? Whatever.

Hey Jude said...

Yeah, whatever HISG.

Davey gets a tweet in which he is thanked for not being fake. I can't recall a time when it would have seemed affirming or in any way complimentary to write, 'Thanks for not being fake', to anyone, let alone my pastor (or priest). What is that? He is feeling sorry for himself today, because he saw a salad dressing bottle with best before 11 Nov 2015, which he says is like him. Check out his Twitter or Instagram to see it - one person responded thus:


mindyreynAs much as you are an inspiration to press on, it is just as important to let people see your low times. Everybody has them...even strong, faithful pastors. It lets the rest of us know that it's ok for us to as well. We need to see real men and women of God "do" real life. Thanks for not being fake. @daveyblackburn

Me2l said...


Blogger Fm25 said...
Me21, surely you can understand why long term followers suspect you are related to the case?

June 19, 2016 at 12:58 P


I can't understand that.

Why does that even make sense? You see, this is one of the problems with the commenters here....a lack of living in reality. Do you really believe someone related to the case would come here and verbally spar with the four commenters who post their fantastical scenarios? If you think that, why would you believe such a thing?

Next question, why on Earth would you think I am related to the case? Not only do I chuckle when I read that here, it is nonsensical. Do you seriously believe anyone related to the case would be so worried that you're getting close to the truth, so they need to throw you off? Is that your reasoning? If so, you people need a reality check! Lol

If I ever had doubts about SA, your conspiracy theories about me have made me certain that you have no idea what you're doing; therefore, I think SA may be what many say it is....junk science or superstition. I have seen the folly of it here.

Do you not realize how you discredit SA with that behavior?

Here's something that obviously hasn't crossed your mind: There is a high likelihood that Davey is NOT guilty. GASP! So why would the rankings of three or four Internet story writers here have any effect on him?

I know you discount that, but you must consider the possibility; in which case, yours making fools of yourselves.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jude,

And what do you feel the comment is evidence of?

Do you believe he sent it to himself?

Because it seems right in line with the other ass-kissing comments he gets.

You don't believe a person reading his tweet could have thought 'oh geez, the poor guy, look at him wearing his heart on his sleeve' and then commented "thanks for not being fake".

Why do people post every single thing he writes or is written to him without having a reason?

Anonymous said...

Me2l wrote

"Why does that even make sense? You see, this is one of the problems with the commenters here....a lack of living in reality. Do you really believe someone related to the case would come here and verbally spar with the four commenters who post their fantastical scenarios? If you think that, why would you believe such a thing?"

I don't believe someone related to the case would spend enormous amounts of time sparring with 3 or 4 posters, but then again, I don't understand why someone unrelated to the case would either, so it is a head-scratcher why you are here.

I'm assuming you deny HISG's statements about why you are here, because sometimes I think she may be telling the truth.

Anonymous said...

Entry to the new palace:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SooskRogqg0/V2bnZjDRWCI/AAAAAAAAAcE/BFafvtAPYmQ0XujL5eVs6mvb-MoP9Ra7gCLcB/s1600/new%2Bhouse.jpg

Since all the cult sumissives are living there, I wonder if the big house is considered a parsonage for tax purposes.

Anonymous said...

HeyJude@2:35

Mindy might enjoy SA. She appears to think Davey's regularly advertised response to Amanda's death has been off. She knows "doing life" is not always a praise Jeezus photo op, but that's all you ever see from some people on SM.

Anonymous said...

Wow, that's quite a house! Do you think there is any way that his money and the promise of his growing empire may have helped influence some people close to Amanda to conspire with him against her?

I remember Amber's piece that appeared recently in Davey's blog called "Home" and it was all about Amanda and Davey's home. Does it occur to anyone that it may be very important to her what someone's "home" looks like and how beautiful and impressive the home appears? Is there any chance she may want to upgrade her own home?

Fm25 said...

Hey Jude, I see why that comment stuck out to you. its not as positive and glowing as normal. I assume negative posts are deleted quickly. Not that this is necessarily a negative one. But it does seem like the poster wanted to remind davey that real men of God should show emotion. His way of grieving or lack shouldn't be held up as the gold standard.

Me2l said...

Blogger Bobcat said...
I am not Meg.
I am not Derek.
I am not Ashley.
I am not Davey.

Your turn.


That is an unreliable response. Your knowledge (limited, and as you understand it) dictates that a "reliable" denial is presented in that manner; therefore, it is calculated to have the desired effect. Because of that, it is disingenuous in motive. It is a rehearsed or prepared response--not reliable.

Anonymous said...

Fm25,

How is that comment Hey Jude posted not as glowing as the other ones? The comment is praising him for showing his low times and not being fake.

Concerned said...

Hey Jude at 2:35
Davey really does love for people to feel sorry for him and
for those who've read the well-researched "The Sociopath Next Door", you know that the best clue to
identifying a sociopath is "the pity play".
From the book:
"The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine,
at our fearfulness. It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy."

I just realized that the book is available for free as a pdf. Just google it with author, Martha Stout's name and it
will come up. You're going to be amazed to meet Davey in those pages! I sincerely hope his family and
Amanda's are reading here so they can guard their hearts from his actions that are surely to come.

Anonymous said...

I am Meg
I am DAvey
I am the pool guy
I am Davey's father
I am Pastor Wagner
I am the local grocer
I am the real estate agent who sold Davey the house
I am Perry Noble
I am ABB
I am HISG
I am Barak Obama
I am Derrick
I am Me2l
I am the thugs
I am the Davey's lawyer
I am the thug's lawyer
I am everything

This conversation is f&ckin retarded!

flightfulbird said...

Back of the new palace - three pix from Ashley Barrett's Facebook page -

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207200457036783&set=pcb.10207200468877079&type=3&theater

"Indy friends! Selling this umbrella for $40! Wedidn't return it in time, and it just doesn't match our color scheme. Perfect condition, brand new! It will need a new umbrella base, as this base isn't quite strong enough to support the umbrella!
Also, umbrella base is $20, also brand new!"

We and our = Ashley, Davey, Derek . . . I know they are sharing a residence but this is Davey's house, right? It is seriously like a cult - or one big happy family ?

Me2l said...

said...
I am Meg
I am DAvey
I am the pool guy
I am Davey's father
I am Pastor Wagner
I am the local grocer
I am the real estate agent who sold Davey the house
I am Perry Noble
I am ABB
I am HISG
I am Barak Obama
I am Derrick
I am Me2l
I am the thugs
I am the Davey's lawyer
I am the thug's lawyer
I am everything

This conversation is f&ckin retarded!

June 19, 2016 at 3:15 PM



LOL!

I sometimes wonder if these people have something against Peter, the way they post the CRAP they come up with.

(BTW, I'm Mel, the dog.)

Anonymous said...

"Indy friends! Selling this umbrella for $40! Wedidn't return it in time, and it just doesn't match our color scheme. Perfect condition, brand new! It will need a new umbrella base, as this base isn't quite strong enough to support the umbrella!
Also, umbrella base is $20, also brand new!"


Oh what a tragedy Davey! Was there some mismatching of your color scheme?! HOw sad for you! You must have so many gay men you need to entertain at your pool now that you offed your wife and you're letting your inner gayness out! Oh my gosh, I hope one of your "Indy friends" buys it so you can get an extra $40! Imagine having that kind of pocket cash! You'll have enough to buy your boyfriend 3 pina coladas and an AIDS test! Hurray!!!

flightfulbird said...

Warning - shameless non-statement analysis below (we need another chat room opened sometime for stuff like this !) -

Maybe Ashley brought the umbrella "home" herself (or she and Derek acquired it) and Davey didn't like the color for his backyard. . . so "we" had to get rid of it because it didn't match "our" color scheme. . .

It actually matches the green in his pool from this humblebrag -

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFUNftzB4Jl/?taken-by=daveyblackburn

Is it really "ours" and "we" if you don't own the house ? Are they guests in the house - if so, taking possession like this is interesting. This relationship between the three of them is interesting. And more people must think that as well - more than just me - for Davey felt the need to address it and defend it in his "How Is Weston Doing" blog post

Anonymous said...

anon @ 3:15

Interesting order of importance you shared.

Anonymous said...

That's cuz I'm Meg.

Anonymous said...

" This relationship between the three of them is interesting. And more people must think that as well - more than just me - "

Oh, I think it's strange especially judging from the gleeful looks on Derrik and Ashley's face while Amanda lay dying on life support. It's called a threesome relationship.

Just another perverted arrangement now being embraced by our society. But I forgot, isnt it "gay pride" week? What is it they are so proud of again? Oh that's right! They are proud that they like &ss, and not only that they expect heteros to be "proud" of them too. Oh my God, Im so proud of them!!!!! How come heteros are not proud to be hetero and they dont wave flags in people's faces and expect others to be proud of them for being hetero?

Our country is going straight to hell. I recently read in the dailymail about a 50 year old guy with 7 kids who decided he was really a 6 year old girl, left his family, started wearing dresses, and some sick church gave him his own support group and a kind couple adopted him and allow him around their children?!?! He should have been brought into the town square and had rotten fruit thrown at him till he snapped the hell out of it!!!! How about give his poor kids a support group! Meanwhile kids are starving, Albino children are being slaughtered in Africa and this freak of human nature gets a support group. And we should all clap and say we are "proud" of him right?! He looks like the biggest moron Ive ever seen--a burly grown man wearing dresses. What is wrong with this world?!?!?!?!

Anonymous said...

WEATHER

Anonymous said...

php?fbid=10207200457036783&set=pcb.10207200468877079&type=3&theater

Anonymous said...

Oh, and Happy Father's Day to all the deadbeat Dads of America cause it's like yo not cool to have ta raise a kid yo. Extra shout out to the majority of black men in America who treat their kids worse than garbage and of course yo dont take care of em cause that aint cool, that aint fun! Happy Father's Day to all the sissified men of America making America suck again!!!!! Not politically correct? I dont give a sh&t.

Anonymous said...

The liberal media wants to guilt people aboit homophobia? How about start guilting this country of deadbeat Dads. Makes me so angry when I go on social media and see a story about 2 black male teachers who started "A Young Men's" club for all the fatherless kids and there's dozens of them! Really?!?! Where the hell are their fathers? But you cant ask that question or you're considered hateful?!?! I'll tell you who's hateful is the awful morally bankrupt men who make up the vast majority of men in this country!!!!!! Father's Day is bull! Men are not expected to be men in this country, maybe it's different in Europe.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

HISG hates men.

Anonymous said...

Right, liberal that's what I said when you filtered it through your liberal brain. I love men! Hooray for men! Fighting for their right to wear dresses, not taking care of their kids, and socializing and posting pics on social media like women, putting up memes when they should be realizing their place is in the backyard mowing the lawn and setting up their tent for the night. Oh Im sorry, they dont have xbox in their tent and cant post their memes from the tent. What a sad story. Get out the violins.

Anonymous said...

It's pretty scary when I'm the voice of sanity in this crazy, crazy world.

Anonymous said...

ARRESTED!

capitalletters said...

YOURE CREEPY

Anonymous said...

IMA

mom2many said...

For anyone wondering about speculation whether commenters could be associated to Davey or his cohorts, it is a known M.O. of Noble to conduct such a campaign. http://apprising.org/2013/01/04/bloggers-lawsuit-for-harassment-against-perry-noble-and-newspring-church-reaches-settlement/

snap said...

Interesting article.

I had been surprised by how the organization has handled some comments.

But now, less so.

Appreciate the perspective.

Anonymous said...

Perry - Keeping it Classy

His older half brother is a registered sex offender.
http://www.bustedoffenders.com/north-carolina/sanford/sex-offenders/melvin-eugene-noble/007098s4
http://andersonobserver.com/deaths-and-services/2011/7/29/melvin-e-noble.html

Concerned said...

mom2many,
Check out www.pajamapages.com and
read the whole story of what Perry Noble and his people did to that respected professor
and nothing they do on this blog will surprise you.
I can picture several of them playing games here and laughing their heads off at the
distress they think they cause.

Sociopaths lead miserable lives as they are easily bored. Making someone else miserable
stimulates them, which explains their behavior here.
The more we ignore him/it/them the less satisfying it will be, in my opinion.

shower talk said...

I'm looking forward to what Jesus has to tell me this week. Last night he told me he thinks I should switch my conditioner to something more with a more citrus smell.

God said...

Davey, that's not what I said! I told you it was your shampoo that was weighing down your hair!

Be on alert for infiltration by said...

Name: Perry Noble

Code Name: Minnie Mouse

Operation: Running the Bases

Intention: Interfere with SA of Davey's tweets

flightfulbird said...

"Best Before" Instagram post link--
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG0OZDVB4F1/

"daveyblackburn Sometime grief will hit you out of no where. You'll be going along strong for a couple of days and then something small triggers uncontrollable anguish. Tonight at dinner I picked up the salad dressing bottle and on the back it read this: Best Before 11NOV2015. The first thought that came to my mind was, "This describes you, Davey." I wish I could tell you I know how to handle moments like this. I don't. But I'm walking through them. I guess that's all I know to do. Just keep walking. It'll all make sense one day."

From DataLounge poster -
"Oh puke...you know he probably crafted that quip long ago. No effing way he has salad dressing at his new house that expired last fall."


Would he have salad dressing at his house that expired last fall? Does he really think he was "best before" Amanda was murdered? I find it hard to believe that salad dressing bottle was on his dinner table last night. This smacks of another scripted shameless poignant moment to "share" with his followers - and the Instagram world ate it up, with 57 responses of encouragement.

From everything he is posting, the trips he is taking, the speaking engagements he has given,the house he bought - he is best now - not six plus months ago. We heard/read it from him numerous times since November 10th and now we are seeing it - the best truly is/was yet to come !

- continued next post -

flightfulbird said...

- continued from last post -

Writing so mournfully "it will all make sense some day" - it should make sense right now. He has explained the reasons why this happened so many times already. All things work together for good to those who are called according to His purpose. God prepared his and his leadership team's heart for this season of pain back on November 6, 2015, four days beforehand - and the Levi Lusko video he and Amanda watched on the train to Chicago also helped prepare his heart as well.

God allowed it - Amanda laid down her life in sacrifice - she led the way in surrender - so the church - God's bride - could come alive. So that thousands across the n-nation, even th, the w - the world, would come to know Jesus. Davey presented his bride holy and blameless (or whatever the hell he said in his blog) to the Father.

I am so tired of reading how he is struggling through this. Whether or not he killed Amanda himself or set it up for others to do it - or neither of the above - he is clearly not suffering in the least. Look at his face in the snow in this pic of approximately eight weeks after "the event" -

https://www.facebook.com/Jutice4AmandaBlackburn/photos/a.1653080304972433.1073741828.1652577575022706/1726992424247887/?type=3&theater

The only struggle Davey has right now is to confront all of the questions and speculation here and try to do damage control when he sees it or when one of his flying monkeys reports to him what we've said. That, and fitting in his gym time while trying to shepherd Weston and dialog with him- and getting that lime green sun umbrella out of his backyard because it clearly doesn't match the red cushions on the chairs - trying to figure out how to tactfully tell Ashley and Derek that it just didn't match "their" color scheme without taking a chance on offending them and having his live-in nanny and housekeeper and his worship leader (if that's actually all they are to him) bail on him as a result.

There seems to be no more trouble with lack of funds, no shortage of money to renovate his house and clean up his pool and buy an SUV and travel the world - he no longer has a wife from whom he has to hide the websites he visits - he has ordained himself a public figure and created his own fan page on Facebook - has professional photography of himself and Weston - has Meg preparing a green room for him before he gets on stage - has Ashley cleaning his house and caring for Weston -has a ghost writer helping him with his blog posts and Amber providing content from her Facebook posts of old . . . .

He has the world by the tail right now and will ride the wave as long it will last. . . I wonder how long it will last.

Truthseeker said...

The salad dressing bottle expiration date thing is really weird. Maybe the contrived sentimentalism of the psychopath--imitating what he feels would be a "normal" reaction to seeing that date. Or, perhaps leakage--that he was "better"--he was not "spoiled", "rotten", "gone bad" BEFORE that date--before he murdered Amanda or had her murdered?

Also: It is a really weird picture--is it just me or does it look like toothpaste or something? So disgusting!

Truthseeker said...

Also, it is very narcissistic the way that he immediately relates the date back to himself, saying how he thought "YOU were better before that date Davey". He doesn't mention anything about Amanda being alive before that date or Weston having his mother before that date. It's striking how he immediately relates it back to himself even within the context of it being the date that his wife was murdered.

Bingo3 said...

From Truthseeker: Also, it is very narcissistic the way that he immediately relates the date back to himself, saying how he thought "YOU were better before that date Davey". He doesn't mention anything about Amanda being alive before that date or Weston having his mother before that date
___________________________________________________________________________________

Exactly! It is always about Davey! Always! Go back and read every blog and every interview. It is about him. The lassoing to the moon to get her back to say she is proud of him. Gag me! How about lassoing back for Weston to have a mom, AB parents to have a daughter back, Amber to have her sister back. Oh but no, only get her back to tell Davey how she is proud of him. Absolutely unbelievable.

Just curious if anyone has that Derrick Ashley interview? I have never watched that. Are they all living in the new mansion? I bet you are right Bobcat that it is paid for by the church and will be just a big tax deduction. I have seen many church pictures taken in the house, so maybe the house was bought by DB to be a second home church. I believe there is even an in-home theater. I will try to find the picture. It is all just crazy.

Anonymous said...

Here is the Derek/Ashley video.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3332707/I-don-t-know-life-without-Amanda-Pastor-left-devastated-pregnant-wife-shot-dead-teens-home-invasion.html#v-6675246410191946015

Anonymous said...

I wonder if there is more footage available by request.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you ask the news station, bobcat? Tell them you want the unedited footage so you can pick it apart and accuse Ashley and Derek of being involved in the murder (along with everyone else DB knows). I'm sure they won't think you're an obsessed kook or anything.

Anonymous said...

The brief comments by derek and ashley don't sound unexpected.
Their peaceful faces could be attributed to having already heard/felt from god/davey that jeezus did not want Amanda's death to be wasted, the best was yet to come, and it would be used for good.

Me2l said...
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Me2l said...

I have been reading past SA blogs and their discussions to get a handle on evolving dynamics and the current disturbing tendency Peter addressed below. Peter's quoted comment is regarding another subject, and he said much more, but this quote surely can be applied just as accurately now as then:

"The most disturbing element for me is the erroneous use of the principles of Statement Analysis in an attempt to fit analysis to a presupposed theory, rather than allowing the statements to build a theory."

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2014/02/conspiracy-theories-and-leanne-bearden.html?m=1


Anonymous said...

Surely, if Peter wanted to apply his own quote in these comments, he would do it himself.

Me2l said...

I'm not implying he wouldn't.

Anonymous said...

You used extreme assumption to take Peter's quote out of context (Leanne Bearden Suicide) and apply it somewhere else (Amanda Blackburn Murder).

If he doesn't say it, you can't say it for him.

Anonymous said...

Bobcat wrote


Their peaceful faces could be attributed to having already heard/felt from god/davey that jeezus did not want Amanda's death to be wasted, the best was yet to come, and it would be used for good.
June 20, 2016 at 10:50 AM

Really? So they have no minds of their own? How does that work? Davey just downloads his propaganda into Derick and Ashley's computer brains and they turn "peaceful". I thought Ashley was her best friend. Didnt she just write a blog post about their wonderful friendship. Even the thought of Weston losing his mother didnt disturb their peaceful (gleeful) expressions?

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