Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Amanda Blackburn Murder & Pronouns Examined


Question for Analysis: 

Is it possible that the husband of murder victim Amanda Blackburn uses the pronoun "we" because he sees himself as connected to divinity?

Let's examine this. 

The more one speaks, the more sample we have for analysis, and the broader the reference point or "baseline" we have to work with. 

Pronouns are intuitive and are used to solve crimes.  How powerful are pronouns?

When someone goes from "I" to "we" without any contextual justification, it is due to guilt.  This is commonly found in case after case, from murder to theft, and is so common, in fact, that parents and teachers pick it up in children. 

It is done to either hide within a crowd, or spread out the guilt, psychologically, as it lessens the impact of guilt. This guilt is not always the 'conscience' or cognizance of having failed morally, but a negative reaction in some solely wishing not to be caught.  True sociopaths feel this stress or guilt, as it is commonly called, even if they care for no one other than their own selves. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, there is a list of coincidence which investigators say point to this murder being not random nor exclusively a home invasion.  Here is why:

Home invasions are for the purpose of quick profit.  

Investigators say most home invasions target the victim specifically for wealth, especially for cash, as in drug dealers.  Others will grab the most valuable easily carried and pawned items for quick sale.  The younger the invaders, the more unpredictable, including the penchant for violence. However, sexual homicide is not something expected to be seen.  

In this murder, a reporter disclosed "sexual assault" which was later on refuted.  

The removal of the victim's clothing is a sexual assault unless there is another explanation such as "staging", or corpse removal.  Since she was left still alive, corpse removal is not likely.  This leaves sexual assault or appearance (staging) of sexual assault and the journalist was correct, even if no forensic evidence is conclusive.  Was this an intended rape?  Did she fight off the rapist who then shot her?

Yet, even this is strange:  she was shot three times.  

The point of shooting her more than once was to kill her; as a single shot would likely end any fight or struggle, and speaks more to an execution.  

Police had video of the shooter or gang, outside the home, and knew, with "100% accuracy" that the husband, Davey Blackburn, was not the shooter. 

Video tape evidence at the gym showed him there during the time period of which the victim was likely shot.  This was something, while the shooter was not arrested, was stated with emphasis by police:  removing doubt that Blackburn was the shooter, but the investigation had to continue.  They needed to learn:

Why was Amanda Blackburn murdered?  

This would eventually answer more questions, including:  Is the husband responsible for the murder?

This is the question that has been debated greatly in newsgroups.  

Circumstantial:

1.  The husband was obsessed with work.
2.  The wife complained of his obsession with work.
3.  The husband said it was a bad marriage and gave specific sexual complaints against her. 
4.  The husband said the marriage got worse with pregnancy.
5.  Pregnancy demands interfere with work obsession. 
6.  The husband said he had sexual temptation at the gym. 
7.  The wife was shot while he was at the gym. 
8.  The husband brandished a gun at work 2 days prior. 
9.  The wife died from a gun. Criminal psychologists ask "Was this on his mind at the time?"
10. The husband spent one hour, each Tuesday, on the phone with the same person, the day Amanda was killed.  On this day, however, the bulk of the call was in the driveway:  he did not enter the home.  

The wife became pregnant, again, and now is removed from the equation. 

Linguistically, Blackburn uses the language of guilt.  

1.  Distance from the victim 
2.  Subtle disparagement of the victim 
3.  Distance language from family
4.  Distance language from impact 
5.  No linguistic fear of killer 
6.  Pronouns

Pronouns. 

In repeated statements and questions related to the murder of Amanda, Blackburn uses the pronoun "we", rather than "I", even when seated alone. 

When asked about what it felt like, "as a man of God" to be investigated, he said,

"For us, we have nothing to hide."

This begs the question, "who is 'us'?" and "who is 'we'?" by the news broadcaster.  

It was not asked. 

Recently, Blackburn spoke about a direct revelation he had from God.  The analysis of such is found here: Deception Indicated.

To indicate deception in this "revelation" the subject must know and show awareness that he intends to deceive people. 

He began with "I had a thought", which went to "God spoke to my heart", as if an impression, but once qualified, he then gave direct quotes.  This is to claim direct revelation from God, Himself, and then he used this "Divine Authority" or marching orders to not only declare a vision, but to insult an entire church in front of its pastor, his father-in-law:  the victim's father. 

This is to show himself "above", both in authority and in 'relation to God', to the man who may suspect him in dispatching his daughter.  By using the 2 qualifiers, he did what deceptive people do, with rapid transmission:  gave himself an out. 

This is a signal that he is well rehearsed in deception and may be a pathological liar. 

Note the import of the lie:  it made him and his company a historical figure of prominence. 

Now consider that in this short speech, the use of the pronoun "I" was used, and in it, God used his first name, which is given for emphasis.  

He then said that the murder victim died so the church could come to life.  It was a trade in which he used sensitive emphasis, or the need to persuade, that it is something he would not have done. 

Please note:  

To this, he was "alone" in his pronoun use. 

He, alone, spoke to God.
He, alone, will pastor the "army" that will go forth in historical manner. 

When he addresses Amanda's murder, he is "we" and he is "us", who has "nothing to hide."

When a 13 year old boy stands before his junior high school principal and says, "I have nothing to hide" it is a signal to see what's in his locker, on his person, etc.  The crude remark is, "he has a turd in his pocket" when he said that.  

It is a linguistic signal that the subject, at this moment, is thinking of things he does not want known and is concerned about them being found.  We note what topic (context) produces this response.  

When this arises with the plural pronoun, it indicates:

a.  That there is something, or some things, hidden, of which the subject does not want known
b.  That the subject is thinking of this hidden item in correlation with someone else; or
c.  That which is hidden produces guilt of which the guilt is mitigated by a crowd.  

Analysis Question:  Given the 'divine revelation' claim, is it possible that Blackburn sees himself as 'one' with God, or in some strange way, a 'trinity' of sorts, or even of such divine cooperation that he is so close that this would produce the pronoun "we" in his language?


Answer:  No.  This is not supported by the context. 

We look at what produces the pronoun "we" in his language, versus what produces the normal, "I" in his language and we find, consistently, a need to 'go plural' regarding the murder and its impact.  

It is alarming that he has now found a "justification" for the victim's death.  The "murder" (that which he called an 'event'  or 'situation' early on) was something that "baffled the family", but now, not only does he know "why" she died, but her death is 'good' for his career, something he has obsessed about repeatedly. 

Objection:  Maybe the hurt is so bad that he retreats to the plural?

Answer:   The truth is the opposite.  

The murder of a wife is 'up close' and 'personal' and as we are possessive creatures, even against all 'political correctness', husbands and wives claim personal ownership over each other.  The second most 'personal' death would be that of a biological child. 

In language, this is where we hear "I", most often, even when a spouse is seated with other family members.  

The other family members do not have the same close personal connection with the victim as the spouse.  

The same is seen in child deaths.  

In using emotional language in a you tube video, he expressed a stronger emotional pronoun about the failure to obtain numbers for his company, with this "disappointment" connected to reliably with the pronoun "I"; and in context, the negative comparison was with 'souls saved', which revealed priority and obsession. 

In the claim of having a conversation with God, he gives signals of deception which indicates that he knows this is not true, and needs not only to convince the audience, but will have a technical "out" upon being challenged.  "I said it was a 'thought'!"  This is commonly used in deceptive advertising today.  It is sometimes used conversationally in insults where the subject later says, "I was only kidding" having done the damage and communicated the message. 

That the murder victim lost her 'life so the church could live' is not simply of concern to orthodox Christianity which teaches that Christ died to give life, but to criminal investigators as to possible motive. 

Blackburn's use of pronouns, as well as his rapidity of transmission suggests a history of successful deception and may be a pathological liar. 

A motive for possible connection to the shooter, even through various layers and connections to criminal elements, that should be considered is the profit to be gained from her death. 

In his first statement, he used her death for advertising purposes and has consistently done so since.  

Criminal investigators look into any possible planning and preparation, even while looking at the profile of one:

a.  Does he have a history of lying?
b.  Does he have a history of narcissism?
c.  Is there a history of... and it goes on looking into all possibilities leading to,

"Can we locate a connection between the shooter, his gang and any adult, including the husband?" 

The final pronoun objection is this:

The pronoun use of "we" is delusional. 

This is not evidenced in the language.  The delusional will not use qualifiers such as "I had a thought" and "felt like...my heart..."  They do not show, in language, the need to deceive when speaking under clinical delusion.  

The delusional will speak of voices, directly and commands.  In the delusional, it is often difficult to pick up deception. "The angel Gabriel came to me today and said..." was told to me in an interview.  The subject was delusional but the sentence structure shows no intention of deception.  This is where lie detection picks up its signals:  intent to deceive.  

When we commonly speak of 'delusions of grandeur' it is not in the clinical sense of delusion.  It can be a young boy believing against evidence that he will be a professional sports star, or someone who simply has a confidence that he or she is born to greatness yet unfulfilled.  This expression is commonly used to describe extreme ego, but it is not to say that the person is delusional. 

This was seen in the Casey Anthony trial where the women interrupted it and was given a light sentence under the claim of "not knowing what she was doing" because she was off her medication.  

She knew how to get dressed, and knew which streets to navigate to get to the address of the court house.  She knew which courthouse room to enter.  She knew what time it started.  She knew the television cameras were on.  

It showed planning. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, investigators explore any possible planning involved.  

The original question posed about the use of the plural pronoun having connection to 'divine' association is viewed in context which allows the subject to answer the question, himself, via his own language.  

In connection to having a personal conversation with God, he does not retreat to 'we', as he did in questions related to the victim's murder, or its impact upon him, or his son. 

Investigators should be very concerned about his public justification of Amanda's murder. 

While all things eventually come together to produce good is a long term act of faith, which cannot see what possible good can come of something like this, calling the faithful to trust, here we have something investigators must consider as motive: 

that Amanda died so his company would grow. 

Davey Blackburn has not been charged, nor implicated by police as having any connection to the murder of Amanda Blackburn.   Blackburn, himself, has not only advertised the murder for his own profit, but has made all of these statements available to the public for their opinion and judgement to be exercised.  

Although I do not know if he has any indirect association to the murder, I am alarmed by the coincidental nature of the case, the language of guilt, and the justification of her murder, under the veil of religious language.  

In my own work, I recognize that "for us, we have nothing to hide" is not simply the language of guilt, but of something hidden.  That which is hidden may not be association to Amanda's killers.

It is something, but I have yet to conclude what I think it is. 

I am bothered by the new 'motive' and justification for Amanda's death; not because of Christian blasphemy; from a deceptive one deception will come, but because it so quickly turns something so ugly into something 'positive.'

Far too little time has elapsed for such. 

The need to justify is sometimes found in the language of killers.  It is predominantly hidden, or subtle, but it is often there. The one exception I have learned from is Tammy Moorer:  she justified the killing of Heather Elvis openly.  This is the only example I have seen in which, prior to arrest, one has spoken thus.  

This is more the language of one convicted who has exhausted appeals and the truth comes out. 

Every other example I have studied and taught to investigators is subtle, teaching them to look for quiet, small words used to justify the homicide; especially domestic homicides. 

In shaken baby syndrome, the baby is blamed for not 'cooperating'; in child molestation the child 'flirted'; 
In teenagers killed or abused, 'hormones' are cited. 

When one dies, people, especially loved ones, speak only the positive, quickly forgetting the flaws. 

That Amanda was "not well read" (which justifies the humiliation she experienced on video) is a subtle insult of her intellect.  

That the husband is so driven as to even use 'sloganism' in her death is concerning.  

Cold case detectives have to have thick skin.  

By virtue of their work, they 'criticize' the failure of others.  


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Anonymous said...

You are dead on right Lynda! I tried to think momentarily how to define Davey's master surgeon scalpel description of Jesus;. It left me aghast, but you have done it perfectly. Isn't this gross?

Sick in the head SOB. He can't think anything BUT violence, now bringing Jesus into his violent imaginations with a scalpel. Lordy, Lordy. Have mercy. ABB

Anonymous said...

Along with what was said about DB shooting Amanda before the gym. If they checked his phone records and there is nothing fishy on them, did they check phones at the gym? Maybe he went to the gym for an alibi/to use a phone there or on the way for a cleanup/staging crew. The men were 30 minutes from the Blackburn's robbing the first house. This could explain the decision to drive 30 minutes to a "random" neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

Gotta go for a while. Maybe be back later. Enjoyed the chat. ABB

Anonymous said...

I lived on a dead end street before. It was like living on a cul de sac. You saw the same cars and people daily. If there was an odd vehicle or person just walking around our street, we called for a cop to come drive by and check it out. The police encouraged it. Now we have all of these neighbors who witnessed things that morning and none of them reported anything? If you are so uncomfortable that you turn your car around and go back home, as one neighbor did after seeing someone walking suspiciously down the street, then why wouldn't you call the police? If you hear gunshots or anything sounding like a gunshot along with a woman screaming, usually you call the police! Another unbelievable part to this story.

Anonymous said...

I meant to add, I don't understand why Taylor stayed behind in the first place! They left, leaving him there, then had to drive all the way back to pick him up, exposing themselves in their crime even more.

What the hell was that all about? Why didn't Taylor just hop in the car and go with them when they left the fist time? This makes no sense at all. This isn't what thugs normally do. The get in and get out. Quickly. UNLESS, there was more to the job Taylor had been instructed to do? ABB

Anonymous said...

Agreed ABB!
Seems that they weren't too worried about being caught at the house. You would think they would want to be quick. In and out. It's even risky robbing a second house in the same neighborhood. If that was the case they could've stayed in the first area. Looks more like staging. They even took their time in the first house drinking alcohol like they knew somehow the owner wouldn't be returning.

Sus said...

DB's tweet is scary
"Jesus is a master surgeon. Though it may be painful, trust His healing scalpel."

A surgeon cuts out that which is diseased. That which will spread and harm your body. Is DB really saying Amanda had to be cut out? She would somehow harm the body of his church? I believe he mentioned "cut" her before. He said should would want to be "cut" to bring others to Jesus. Interesting.

lynda said...

Daveys "friend" "unfriend" Tweezy on FB...the one that's selling the gun

Bossman Ripliljay Crawford
4 hrs ·
Never sold pack on the Internet my phone jump for big shit no petty grams....‪#‎back2dabasics‬
*********

Pack is another word for heroin

Tweezy said.."Who komin over my spot to kook? Let's all not speak at once..I will roll up the loud while someone kook me breakfast..
**********
Loud is marijuana


Tweezy said.."All I talk is money..what else is to talk about...bitch I got bands and I put gold all up in my mouf!

************
Bands = 1000 dollars gold = gold grill in his mouth


seems like Tweezy is still remaining a productive part of society

Sus said...

On the phone. Sorry.
she, not should.

Kate said...

Exactly. And I cannot remember any crime I have followed, where the media has covered the neighborhood like this, ever. The neighborhood itself could not have been in on this, so what gives? These houses were on top of each other, very close. Neighbors descibed how they saw a suspicious man in the neighborhood, trying to shield his face so they couldn't see him. Yet, they don't call police?

Questions I have about this case

Why did they put the bolo out for a light skinned black male?
Whatever happened to the dark suv they first reported on?
How long did Davey spend in the gym, are there surveillance cameras inside the gym
Why did they rule Davey out almost immediately?
Why were LE so shaken up at the presser?
Were LE under so much pressure to find the perps that they missed the Davey signals?
Why was Governor Pence at the funeral, but then the press barely touches on Governor Pence being there.
Where was the dog?
Most of all, where are all the 911 calls?

Sus said...

He has another page where he is Treezy (something in the middle) Jones. It's a bit cleaner. He is friends with himself.

His mother is a Crawford and very much into praying and her sweet baby boy.

His real name is Richard.

According to his mother he was shot five times in a robbery, sometime in October.

Anonymous said...

Treezy Riphellrellandliljay jones

Anonymous said...

What is the likelihood SA fulfills itself rather than objectively analyze? How do you guard against that?

I'm new to your site, so maybe this has been explained somewhere.

M2 said...

Lots of people are mentioning the Thanksgiving photo. I went back to find who shared the link, but cannot find it. Would it be too much trouble to share it again? Thanks! M2

M2 said...

Searching for Thanksgiving photo. Came across this on Mrs. Barrett's instagram. Is that MG in the very front, looking at the photographer?
https://www.instagram.com/p/-pM9FRIEXq/?taken-by=mrsabarrett

M2

M said...

The Thanksgiving photo looks normal to me. It is how we gather to pray in our family, too. When you pray on a regular basis there is no ritual or pomp and circumstance to it. Somebody says, "Hey gather around, so-and-so is going to give instructions and then we are going to pray and eat."

M2 said...

Sorry. I've answered my own question. Found the Thanksgiving photo on Mrs. Barret's instagram. Sharing it again with anyone interested. https://www.instagram.com/p/-kE86TIEVE/?taken-by=mrsabarrett

M2

M said...

I feel like I'm Thing One talking to Thing Two.

M2 said...

:)

M2

lynda said...

Kate said...

Why did they put the bolo out for a light skinned black male?
Whatever happened to the dark suv they first reported on?
How long did Davey spend in the gym, are there surveillance cameras inside the gym
Why did they rule Davey out almost immediately?
Why were LE so shaken up at the presser?
Were LE under so much pressure to find the perps that they missed the Davey signals?
Why was Governor Pence at the funeral, but then the press barely touches on Governor Pence being there.
Where was the dog?
Most of all, where are all the 911 calls?

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They did the BOLO based on the very poor quality "video" and neighbors eyewitness statements.
In my mind, the dark SUV was a red herring. Just an Suv. Had nothing to do with murder
The PC affidavit states that video showed Davey at the gym during the robbery/murder
They ruled him out 100% as the SHOOTER, based on video.
I think LE was under fire because crime is skyrocketing, they have many unsolved cases, there is corruption, and elections had just taken place. If you remember, the whole presser they talked about crime in general and what they were going to do, they did not mention the Blackburn murder until the very end of at least a 1/2 hour presser.
I think the Governor was there and at the funeral because of politics ONLY
A "friend" anon of course, stated here way back when that dog was in cage. We do not know location of cage. Garage would be my guess since no one reported that there was hysterical dog barking. I also find that extremely convenient that the dog was caged. Why didn't Davey let it out when he got up??
911's do not have to be released if they are part of an active investigation. The fact that they haven't been released means to me that LE has NOT closed this case at all! They are still investigating. I think this is good news.

We cannot forget that a new Mayor was elected and that new Mayor appointed a NEW sheriff to town. That could be good, that could be bad. If the last police force was rift with corruption, a new regime could clean it up or they could be knee deep themselves. Detectives can be replaced, bad feelings, resentments could occur. I just hope the new chief does not allow this case to become buried.

Concerned said...

Hi, Thing One and Thing Two!
Re: the Thanksgiving photo

If you're gathered around in heartfelt prayer, talking to God,
who grabs the camera to take a picture?!
We don't have a single photo of our family praying.
Do you guys?

Louise K said...

, we probably have other pressures going on in our lives, we probably have things coming against us so it seems and surrounding us, right? So here’s what I want you to do. In the story, I want you to fill in the blank for you. So after this, the — what? What’s happening in your life that’s causing pressure?

So, so maybe for some of you it’s, after this the debt collectors, and the company management, and some of the medical reports, came against, Mary, for battle.
**********************


WTF??

MEDICAL REPORTS?

Was Evie Not Perfect in some way?

Louise K said...

heh look what I found

http://daveyblackburn.com/

Concerned said...

Kate and Lynda,
That Blackburn press conference was off-the-charts weird.
It sure was an antsy line-up, wasn't it?
I couldn't put my finger on it and need to watch again.

Several takeaways based on memory:

There was a great deal left unsaid and some looks exchanged that made it appear they were hedging.
If repetition makes words sensitive, they sure wore out the words "probable cause"! I came away thinking there was much more to be revealed than the PC showed and that maybe what was included it wasn't totally accurate.

Also they seemed to be concerned that the public would think they put more resources to solving this than they had other murders. I came away thinking maybe there were many murders of African-Americans that were open. I don't remember what I based this on.

Re: the Governor
I wouldn't be surprised if Perry Noble had a link with the Gov and was asked to come. Never underestimate a politician's willingness to back a favor or a donation with his exalted presence.

Louise K said...

from DB blog -

"(2) Many times the point is not “what” your core values are, rather just that you have core values"

Scary stuff

Louise K said...

Good to Great By Davey Blackburn:

(3) “This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end – which you can never lose – with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality”

Louise K said...

Left wondering what the eff he got taught in college (ed) -

Good To Great By Davey Blackburn

White Space Time

I’m also a firm believer in this principle . . . so I’m experiencing trouble in trying to keep these thoughts organized so that when I HAVE them I can PRESENT them down the road. That’s what I’m currently thinking through . . . how to keep my thoughts organized so I can be proactive in my message/series content planning . . . Notebooks? Bookmarks? Highlights? Tabs?

Anyone have any suggestions? How do you keep things organized?

Louise K said...

Im sorry but only an idiot cannot assemble his own thoughts without

1. asking how

2. implementing tabs

Louise K said...

People send their CHILDREN to this freak...? - ed

Good To Great By Davey Blackburn

I wish I could have this conversation with everyone in our student ministry and help them to understand, on a personal level, that Jesus has a plan for them – SEXUALLY. AND IT’S BEAUTIFUL!!

Rabbit said...

Louise K said...
, we probably have other pressures going on in our lives, we probably have things coming against us so it seems and surrounding us, right? So here’s what I want you to do. In the story, I want you to fill in the blank for you. So after this, the — what? What’s happening in your life that’s causing pressure?

So, so maybe for some of you it’s, after this the debt collectors, and the company management, and some of the medical reports, came against, Mary, for battle.
**********************


WTF??

MEDICAL REPORTS?

Was Evie Not Perfect in some way?


December 12, 2015 at 5:53 PM

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Davey listed things that cause pressure. His proirities:

Debt collectors.
Company management.
Medical reports.

Were these pressures Davey himself was feeling? And if medical reports cause stress then they must contain bad news, such as high colesterol or even cancer.

However, a medical report could also be confirmation of a pregnancy, something that many people would consider good news. Davey seemed to think that children created problems in a marriage so for him a medical report confirming pregnancy would create pressure.

P.S. Louise K, thanks for the Davey laffs. ;)

Rabbit said...

Er, "priorities" I wish we had an edit button...

Louise K said...

www.daveyblackburn.com

no joke

who does this

theres 0 comments on it btw - or should I say, 1 here and there

Hilarious reading

Freakin NUT

Ït doesn't matter what core values (lol) you have, as long as you have them? <<<gives himself permission to do ANYTHING

There I was thinking a God persons Core Values should align (roughly) with God's

Apparently not

You can just pull them out of your ass to suit yourself

I have a Core Value of greed < yup
I have a Core Value of Being Sexually Inappropriate<<no problem
I have a Core Value of Murdering Whatever Annoys<<A. OK Davey BOY!

Jesus wept...!

Louise K said...

I immediately thought medical reports = pregnancy

13 weeks is usually when you get the first results back

Maybe there was something wrong in those results

Or maybe there was just the first scan so Baby became Real and Unacceptable

Louise K said...

I'm still LOLing at the vision of a heavily pregnant Mary getting handed Medical Reports

I mean, wasn't she in a manger

Davey's shifted her to a Modern Setting apparently

LOL

3 wise men came bearing Medical Reports, debt collection and Company Management Problems

Anonymous said...

Somewhere above, I don't see it now; but Louise posted a link that I clicked onto and there was the longest list of all kinds of church committees, seminars, speakers and group video links I've ever seen. The titles of some of these sermons and videos is sickening. This is unbelievable. I just cannot imagine anyone in their right mind becoming so indoctrinated into all this. This could get all consuming and maddening.

This is pure craziness. Doesn't anyone ever "find" themselves spiritually or emotionally? I'm starting to wonder. I have a sister who has an entire library wall at least 8' high and 12'long, shelves floor to ceiling, dedicated to hundreds, maybe thousands of self-help and ministerial books she has crammed full in it. I never dreamed there were so many of these non-productive kinds of self-help books.

It seems to me that if one really thinks they need a little guidance or help with their wandering thoughts, why would they need more than one or two of these books and a good psychology 101 book? Good Lord in heaven. How much conditioning of the mind does one need before they free themselves up to go on with life and actually get something accomplished with their time and their lives?

What a rot-gut miserable existence having to always delve into oppressive matters of the mind. How depressing. Living in a captivated unsettled state of mind like this could make me want to go out and pitch a good drunk when I'm not even a drinker. If I had to read all this insanity I'd probably wind up in a total state of depression and thinking of killing myself! Wheeeew, what tripe. No wonder so many people are all screwed up, having crap like this on their mind all the time and never finding mental stability. ABB

Anonymous said...

Louise @ 6:56, this is not cute or funny. STOP IT with the blaspheming Jesus, His birth and mother Mary. You don't have to accept Jesus, nobody ever said you did; but this is highly offensive, not to mention detrimental to your own soul to keep posting evil things like this whether you believe it or not. You're free to believe whatever you want too, but so are we. PLEASE just stop. Thank you, ABB

Louise K said...

ABB: it is DAVEY himself who used Mary as an example

how can we analyise what Davey says if we're not allowed to mention Religion

Not EVERY reference to God by myself is intended as a slight to anyone's religion but Daveys

Honestly, if you don't like it roll and scroll

I thought you God fearing types were good at turning the other cheek and forgiving us heathens



Louise K said...

Davey's Spiel about introducting YOUTH to their Sexuality is Tantamount to Grooming

and no one's turned a hair

WAKE UP AMERICA

Louise K said...

Also ABB:

JC and myself are good

We are tight

You don't need to tell me what He thinks of me

ok

Louise K said...

Priorities:

Good To Great By Davey Blackburn

What are your priorities?

If you don’t know CHECK YOUR CALENDAR, CHECK YOUR BANK STATEMENT,

Anonymous said...

Louise, I did NOT call you a heathen and I did NOT condemn your soul or judge you. YOU make clear your own beliefs and feelings, condemning your own self; not my call to make. But it IS my call to stand up for Jesus and to ask you to PLEASE stop blaspheming His lovely name and His birth. Or is this your mission here? I'm starting too think it is.

Just stop it. PLEASE. There is plenty to decipher within statement analysis and the words of Davey Blackburn without blaspheming Jesus. Tkx. ABB

Anonymous said...

When someone keeps escalating their blasphemous conversation here until another engages,
it's often best to walk away for a while and ignore it when you come back.

Anonymous said...

You're right Anon @7:51. I'm aware of it but thanks for pointing it out all the same. Maybe I will ignore it from now on. I tried, but it's not my blog site anywayz, it's Peter's, and his prerogative to stop her blaspheming Jesus or not too. Tkx for your wise advice. ABB

M said...

Anon @7:51 I think it was last night that someone thanked a couple of posters whose comments they like to read. I look for certain names, too, some to read and some to scroll on by....

Anonymous said...

Good idea, M @8:21. I do that too sometimes, but this particular poster also makes some well-thought out posts too, some even hilarious, then out of the blue here comes the 'cutesy' not-so-cute blasphemy of Jesus that makes me bristle and is almost more than I can take not to defend.

Guess I'll have to start ignoring all of her posts. ABB

Concerned said...

"There is a God-shaped vacuum in every heart."
~Blaise Pascal

Anonymous said...

ABB,

You are all over the place. The only thing consistant is that you come across like you think your unique life experiences, professional expertise, and especially your religion somehow make you better than others. This really comes through with all your preachy rants and peaks when you take on the role of religious police and act like you have the authorithy to call out anyone that doesn't share your beliefs.

I for one would really appreciate it if you would quit this crap. I challenge you to try not posting anything in the next 24 hrs without the words God,Jesus,pray,prayer, church,savior etc. Whether or not you decide this is something you want to try and just continue to rant, you need to STOP calling people out for not sharing your religious beliefs.

KK

Anonymous said...

KK said.....

"ABB,

You are all over the place. The only thing consistant is that you come across like you think your unique life experiences, professional expertise, and especially your religion somehow make you better than others. This really comes through with all your preachy rants and peaks when you take on the role of religious police and act like you have the authorithy to call out anyone that doesn't share your beliefs."



I agree with you on this.



Anonymous said...

9:00 & 9:06;

Well... YEAH!! My experiences are unique to me just as yours are to you. SOOo? You don't like mine just go on living in your own little thinly veiled world, be careful not to ever venture outside of it. It suits you well.

I'm perfectly fine with whatever you think, or don't think; either way it won't change a thing. Only, it seems to me that you spend more time analyzing my posts than you do on the subject matter.

Don't read my posts, scroll on by. Oh, and don't respond either, alrighty? Makes me happy and no difference to me at all. None whatsoever. Your problem.

No offense; have a good rest of the evening. ABB

Anonymous said...

Has there been any confirmation of DB buying a $50,000 car?

Canada

Concerned said...

Canada at 10:35
Kate was on earlier and said there is confirmation.
She wants to make doubly sure by someone locally checking it out.

DB's arrogance and thumbing his nose at people knows no bounds, even when they're sacrificing their money for him.
But I guess that's not anything new!

Louise K said...

ABB

I understand your distress.

The fact is that my posts are blasphemous at times (because I don't have the advantage of a Christian Upbringing) and liable to offend.

Please note a good proportion of the population finds your consumption of bacon, similarly offensive.

However, I amongst few have taken the time and trouble to get myself an ID, complete with an Avatar

You could hardly miss my posts

If you want to keep trying to derail my attempts to analyse DAVEY'S disregard for his own religion by taking offense, go ahead

But at least get an Avi so we can all scroll past your determination to make this about You.

Its not.

Its about certain individuals that hold the bible aloft and hide beneath.

You may or may not be one of those

but what is true>>>>you'll get wet next time it rains

Standing in a church waving a bible doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car

And I for one am HEARTILY sick of this Holier than Thou BS which permeates the Davey Blackburns of the world

*rant over*

Anonymous said...

What do you suppose was going to make so much money for this little 17 year old today?

Donae Mitchell
9 hrs ·
I have the worst cramps ever if I don't get up I'm going to miss out on so much money �� Lord give me strength and a snicker and Sprite

Louise K said...

im loving the Cramps cure = a snicker and a Sprite

normally its like you know, ibuprofen

Tania Cadogan said...

Chocolate makes everything better in big enough quantities :)

Anonymous said...

Just tried to friend request Davey on FB and got a msg I've never seen before...basically said this person has "reached the friend request limit and can't accept anymore". I'm pretty sure there are no limits so is this something he must have put in place?

I just wanted to ask him why he is no longer friends with Treezy...Bossman...etc. Anyone with twitter care to ask him? Is that possible?

rosy said...

'There is the limit of having 5,000 friends on your friends list and the limit of 1.000 friend requests you can have on your pending friend requests list.and when you reach the limit of any of them, any person who tries to send a friend request to you will get a "sorry you cant add this person" notification.'

Bobcat said...

M @ 4:52

I think it's odd that, even though no one is holding hands (which is totally fine), no one has "praying" hands either. Maybe they aren't praying at all?

But whatever Phil is talking about, the crossed arms and hands in pockets is interesting body language.

MzOpinion8d said...

Let's look at all the defenses people offer up for Davey:

"it's not unusual to..." ____ "I do it/my spouse does it all the time..."

-work out every day for at least an hour

-leave the front door unlocked even though the neighborhood is concerned enough to have multiple surveillance cameras and a watchmen group

-sit in the car in the driveway talking for 40 minutes even though it's only 40 degrees outside and would probably feel even cooler since you're in sweaty clothes

-call 911 to report your wife has injured herself even though there are extremely obvious signs of someone else being in the house...panties don't get knocked off in a fall

-issue a statement about grieving for your wife before she's even declared dead (grieving "for the next few days")

-forget to mention your unborn child whose life has also been lost

-mention that you'll be "shepherding" your remaining child's heart by "dialogue-ing" with him

-tweet and/or text during your wife's funeral

-appear live on multiple television shows, dry-eyed, and rave about how the best is yet to come

-immediately forgive the men accused of murdering your wife - who may also have sexually assaulted her

-use a gun in a sermon, pretending to shoot another person

-use language in sermons, tweets, and other social media posts that suggests violence

-be videotaped saying many condescending things to/about your wife

-take over the congregation at your father in law's church, and INSULT them...then go on to say God talked to you in the shower and you know now that he caused your wife's death to breathe new life into the old dry bones of the church

-then make a public statement that your wife GAVE HER LIFE (as if it was voluntary) to see Indianapolis changed

-continue tweeting odd scriptures

-still never mention how much your wife was loved by you and how much you miss her

I've literally seen EVERY.SINGLE.ONE. of these behaviors defended by people, plus seen comments about how much you can tell DB loved and cherished his wife from his precious videos and how his preaching style is "refreshing" and "reaching the unreachable". It's unreal.

His behavior is NOT NORMAL, people!! One or two of these, maybe...but look at them all together!!!



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MzOpinion8d said...

Sorry, that was supposed to say from his previous videos, not his precious videos...although both work kinda...lol

Kate said...

Excellent post MzO! Not to mention early on when Davey's church did not want to comment, they gave the news stations copies of the videos he has online. So even after the news viewed these tapes, they didn't notice what a raving lunatic this guy was? Gone are the days of solid reporting, the media is giving him a free pass.

Rabbit said...

One more to add to the list:

-sell t-shirts at your wife's funeral.

Anonymous said...

Buy a new car.

Anonymous said...

- refuse to speak to your wife for two days because she accidentally dented the grill AND bitch and moan about how every time you see the dent, you feel terrible psychological pain.

MzOpinion8d said...

Thanks, Kate. Ugh, can't believe I forgot the t-shirts sold at the funeral!!! And the grill! I didn't mention buying the new SUV since we don't have public confirmation yet and I didn't want to give people an excuse to discount the entire list because of one unverified item.

Anonymous said...

Great list MzOpinion! I'd have never been able to pull this together off the top of my head, and too lazy to go back and dig all this out of previous posts. Wow.

We know how the b'stard pouted for two days refusing to speak or accept her apology or forgive her, but he never did forgive poor Amanda for accidentally denting his stupid grill. It was years earlier, but he brought it up several times in sermons; like it was meant to last forever; when it was HIS responsibility to take care of his OWN f'en grill, and like he might never get another one. He is one piss poor excuse of a man, as well as lacking a soul of compassion.

OMG, and all that humiliation he put her through over his 'bad' marriage and how having a baby makes it worse, and his disappointing sex life with her, even making embarrassing innuendos of threatening her with anal 'butter' sex. I just can't imagine how no one in Amanda's family ever picked up on what an a'hole he really was in his treatment of Amanda; idly standing back, watching him destroy her soul.

Are they just 'forgiving' people who always turn the other cheek no matter what; see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil? Or just plain stupid, or just non-caring; or all of the above? I guessed it right from the beginning when I guessed that Amanda had no one to turn too. No one. Sad. I'd really like to give these thick-headed people a piece of my mind, but of course, it would do no good. It's too late now. As I sense it, they all have her blood on their hands. ABB

M said...

This is the 667th comment. The other number bugged me.

M said...

Bobcat - The only time I fold my hands to pray is when I am teaching very small children - and that is so that they will sit still for 2 seconds. : )

I don't know many people who fold their hands. I know a couple of people who don't close their eyes or bow their head! There isn't anything wrong with it, but I would struggle to concentrate if I tried that.

I do know families who always hold hands around the table when they pray. I just don't know many of them.

I'm sure it's just a cultural thing. In conservative, baptistic churches it's just not common.

Anonymous said...

Here's another thing that can go on your list, MzOpinion; (unless I missed it), how LE ignored the fact that there were THREE shots fired into Amanda, NOT just the two neighbors heard at a specific time which would have excluded Davey because they could verify that he was at the gym at this specific time; which of course, they have no verification of exactly what time these two shots were heard because no neighbor called them.

However, let's assume neighbors heard TWO shots at this particular 'time', so what about the THIRD shot that no one heard which well could have happened before Davey ever left for the gym, and particularly since he WAS 41 mins late to the gym that morning, AND left the front door open, which in and of itself is highly suspicious.

LE has no verification OR evidence as to when and how the THIRD shot occurred, other than the unaccounted for bullet wound in her body, yet they let Davey go and declared him 100% cleared within the first 24-hrs. They are a blight on LE jurisdictions everywhere for not thoroughly collecting, confiscating and processing ALL of the evidence, being particularly suspicious of Davey Blackburn. So far, I haven't seen anyone, media or otherwise, who has the balls to challenge them. ABB

Anonymous said...

My first thought when Davey was reputed to have purchased a new SUV for $50T bucks was that he must have gotten a fairly large life insurance pay-out. But this is questionable because we don't know if he had a life insurance policy on Amanda's life, or how long it takes to process the policy(s?) if he did have one or more.

However, IMO, he's had plenty of money coming in from the many donor fund raising sites that have been set up for him. There's preacher Nobel's big money church donor site, Mr. preacher Blackburn's church donor site, and Mr. preacher-Paul's, daddy's church site. Right there totals many thousands of possible donors! (Sorry, I can't bring myself to call these people 'reverend').

There would be one hell of a lot of funds being raised, not accounting for all the other public fund raising donor sites that have been set up with many trickling donations coming in, likely some private ones too within media that are known to him.

I'd say Davey's finances (for the immediate future) is looking mighty good. And of course, he's still got his little tee-shirt and video sales; coming on the scene will be his book deal plus hopes for his highly rated movie deal; which he ALSO hopes to star in? Next will be the CUBs fat donation solicitation going into his bottomless well when he makes his freebie trip to the VIP game that has been set up for the poor widower whose wife was murdered by evil intruder home-invasion thugs leaving him with a baby to raise all by his little lonesome. Yeah, right.

Davey is riding the gravy train, or as they say down in south Alabama, "shittin' in high cotton." Oh yeah, no doubt about it, 'the best is yet to come' for Davey idiot-boy Blackburn. ABB

Anonymous said...

Louise, your post from 10:45 pm, to paraphrase; you state that sometimes you are blasphemous because you don't have the advantage of a Christian background. Com'on now, Louise.

YOu know you had previously stated that you attended catholic schools while growing up. If this isn't a Christian background I'd like to know what is? While I don't have a catholic background, I have met several nuns and sisters and have had many catholic friends, VERY lovely Christian people, one very fine gentleman that I would have married in later years had he not passed away; all very devout in their faith.

You'll have to come up with a better one than this to excuse yourself, Louise. BUT, all is good, I've already moved on; not one to linger over spilt milk. ABB

Anonymous said...

Bobcat, I really had never thought much about how others pray, particularly; but when I was growing up we were taught to kneel and pray at the church pews when instructed to do so, otherwise stand and bow our head and pray, sometimes holding hands; altar calls were given to come forward, bow, kneel and pray, not just to 'come forward' and declare Jesus our personal savior, but to actually kneel, repent and ask for forgiveness for our sins. We were also taught to kneel and pray in Bible studies and in our homes. Prayer was reverend and treated respectfully. Sometimes pecial prayer services were held for those requesting special prayers.

My grandfather's home, he would have the entire family kneel and pray at their seat before any meals were eaten, eyes closed and head bowed, while he prayed for all of us and the food. My parents always prayed blessings at the table before every meal. This is just the way it was. At my in-laws I don't remember any grace being spoken other than at the thanksgiving dinner table, certainly no hands held, but definitely a few glancing up to see whose looking, myself included. It was just one of those quickie standard 'we thank you' prayers.

I see it all being done differently in services and everywhere else now. Guess we just have to look after our own selves, 'eh? ABB

Anonymous said...

BTW Louise, just so you know; I have no dispute with you concerning your rants over how religion has been made a mockery of, it certainly has been in many denominations and churches, too numerous to mention. Agreed. It is really disgusting and sickening to watch them in action, frightening actually; still, we are cautioned not to judge them. God knows, other than for my own discernment, I try hard not too. ABB

Anonymous said...

Kate said...

Lynda, exactly. And why would Taylor just hang out and wait for his ride? Why didn't he leave on foot instead of taking the risk of the car pulling back into a cul de sac? They knew they had the time, someone had let them know Becker wasn't coming back until after 8:00 am.

In the probable cause doc, it states a neighbor saw a man walking around the neighborhood, suspiciously, so the neighbor drove back to his home. It stops there, what did the neighbor do? Did he watch the suspect(s) from there? Did he call 911? Why did so many neighbors see something and hear something, but wait to call le? The media has gone on and on about how tight this neighborhood is. Ryan McConnell leading the way as Captain of the watch. Why did they all wait to call 911?! Someone hears two shots and a woman scream, yet they don't call 911.
December 12, 2015 at 2:10 PM
--------------------------

Read it again. He did take off on foot. The car picked him up on the cross street. The neighbor you're talking about lives on that street. He saw the car pick up Taylor and drive away. Why would he call 911? He did turn his surveillance video later.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Here's another thing that can go on your list, MzOpinion; (unless I missed it), how LE ignored the fact that there were THREE shots fired into Amanda, NOT just the two neighbors heard at a specific time which would have excluded Davey because they could verify that he was at the gym at this specific time; which of course, they have no verification of exactly what time these two shots were heard because no neighbor called them.

However, let's assume neighbors heard TWO shots at this particular 'time', so what about the THIRD shot that no one heard which well could have happened before Davey ever left for the gym, and particularly since he WAS 41 mins late to the gym that morning, AND left the front door open, which in and of itself is highly suspicious.

LE has no verification OR evidence as to when and how the THIRD shot occurred, other than the unaccounted for bullet wound in her body, yet they let Davey go and declared him 100% cleared within the first 24-hrs. . ABB

December 13, 2015 at 6:29 AM
--------------------------------'
What are you referring to when you say LE IGNORED the fact Amanda was shot three times?

Do you really believe Davey shot his wife in the head and an hour later the others arrived and shot her two more times? What on earth would be the purpose of that? By then poor Amanda would have been near death with blood pouring out of her head, splattered everywhere. And you're saying one of the suspects held up her arm so the other could shoot her near the hand or the wrist. And then for the hell of it, shoot her in the back. I didn't see blood on the dude walking down the street. No mention of blood on the guy with pink sweater wrapped around his face. How do you think they pulled that off?

Regarding that last statement, LE doesn't rely solely on an ear witness to determine when and how a victim is shot. The body itself provides much of that evidence, and the crime scene fills in the rest. Most likely, the neighbor heard the first two shots in rapid succession followed by a third seconds later. In her mind it registered as two shots. That's not unusual.

As for MzOpinion's "list", and the 911 call, who dreamed up that BS? The 911 call hasn't been released, and the PC doesn't provide a text of the dialogue. So how does MzOpinion know what Davey Blackburn said to the dispatcher? Oh, that's right. She doesn't.

Anonymous said...

Neighbors are not required to provide security for other neighbors. Calling 911 whenever a stranger walks on the street is a good way to get in trouble. Neighborhoods and communities that rely on this type of security soon become crime riddled by the more high-tech generation that take advantage of that technique.

Many don't call because they fear they will be accused. This is an accurate fear in many parts of the nation.

I quit calling when it was obvious they care more for personal property over human life. If they don't respond the death threats, stalking, extortion, etc., they aren't going to do anything about property destruction, burglaries-home and auto-and try to force others into believing it doesn't exist.

When I moved, my hard drive moved with me, much to one neighbors gasps! Regardless of public opinion, I have no obligation to provide security after I am gone as none did anything while I was there. Yes, I know who the burglars are. Could I prove it? No. I care as much about them as they cared about me. Many cops lived where I did and failed to do anything, so I don't feel bad at all.

Carnival Barker said...


@Anon 9:55,

We don't know what DB said to the dispatcher, but we know what DB DIDN'T say. He DIDN'T say he needed the police. After responding to Davey's 911 call of his wife being "injured and unconscious," it was the fire department who requested the police because of a possible assault.

Carnival Barker said...


MzOpinion,

Well done!

Anne of Port Charlotte said...

VERY well done, MzOpinion! ABB

lynda said...

Blackburn said..

"And I don't want this tragedy to be wasted. And so I want us to capitalize on seeing more and more people come to know Jesus as their personal savior," said Blackburn.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-davey-blackburn-taking-time-to-get-healthy-asks-church-not-to-let-wifes-death-go-to-waste-152210/#Wjxl5s8olGRDCLWS.99

*************

So, in other words, he wants to "capitalize" on Amanda's death. Well, at least he's coming right out and saying it now.

lynda said...

Carnival Barker said...

@Anon 9:55,

We don't know what DB said to the dispatcher, but we know what DB DIDN'T say. He DIDN'T say he needed the police. After responding to Davey's 911 call of his wife being "injured and unconscious," it was the fire department who requested the police because of a possible assault

_________________________________

Exactly Anon@9:55. When he called 911, with what he SAW when he walked in, (which we KNOW because of PC affidavit) he is EXPECTED to say "I need paramedics, police, anyone you can send, my wife has been attacked and is bleeding heavily...etc. The fact that he made it seem to the 911 operator that she just needed EMT is NOT EXPECTED. Think about what you're saying before you slam someone else's post. We look for the UNEXPECTED in SA

GeekRad said...

MzOpinion, you need to send your summary to LE and media outlets, starting with Nancy Grace. Please.

Anonymous said...

Lynda said: "Exactly Anon@9:55. When he called 911, with what he SAW when he walked in, (which we KNOW because of PC affidavit) he is EXPECTED to say "I need paramedics, police, anyone you can send, my wife has been attacked and is bleeding heavily...etc. The fact that he made it seem to the 911 operator that she just needed EMT is NOT EXPECTED. Think about what you're saying before you slam someone else's post. We look for the UNEXPECTED in SA"



Actually, Lynda, if he said "I need" whatever, that would be flagged, because he's asking for help for himself. Look at Peter's many posts about 911 calls where the caller asks for help for themselves when someone else is injured/dying/missing.

Anonymous said...

And to add to my comment above (the one about people asking for help for themselves when they call 911), there is a lot of creative writing going on here as far as the 911 call goes. We have no idea what all Davey Blackburn said, nor was there any way he could know that only the fire department would be dispatched at first. There's certainly no indication in the document that he asked for only EMTs and no police.

The document gives only a very brief summary of the call, and people are trying to fill in the blanks with a bunch of fiction. But that's been pointed out before, and some folks here don't seem to want to hear that.

Where I live, if you call to report someone injured and unconscious, you're gonna get the fire department and cops whether you need the cops or not. It just depends on the jurisdiction.

Louise K said...

Downunder if a person is found in Amanda's state, its treated like a Crime Scene from the get go - Police are called by the Ambulance Staff if no one else does

Ambos are quite good at assessing what is a crime scene and what is not btw. So are Firemen.

Amy Smith said...

Oy.

DB tweet today: So grateful for this reminder Sunday brings to us each week: We serve a God who defeated death, conquered the grave and crushed the enemy!

Louise K said...

God he's disturbing

So off tap he doesn't even realize how inappropriate he is

A phrase coined on another forum that I'm rather fond of springs to mind

"Death Gloater"

MzOpinion8d said...

Anon at 9:55 is the perfect example of what I meant when I said one item would be singled out in order to discount the whole list! Thanks, Anon at 9:55!! Is that the only thing you could find to point out as wrong?

You are correct, I don't know what was said in the 911 call, but as Carnival Barker pointed out, I know what wasn't said, and that is that police were needed. That Fire/Medical responded and had to SUMMON police means Davey did NOT request police, therefore I can make an educated assessment via critical thinking skills that Davey only indicated his wife was injured and not that she had been assaulted, and as I mentioned, the fact that her panties were off makes it obvious she didn't just fall down.

The 911 thing is kinda weird in general, because there was a call at 8:17 am reporting a burglary to 911 at the neighbor's house, then another call at 8:22 am reporting Amanda was hurt, and you'd think a flag would pop up in the system for two calls so close together. I don't know how 911 systems work, but it seems like it would be a good idea for agencies to have awareness of incidents in the immediate vicinity at the same time.

I don't think it's all in the neighbors to report things but if all of the people who had seen weird things had called, it would have been pieced together a bit sooner. One caller says they heard shots and a scream, and two more callers say they see a suspicious person in the neighborhood, and police are going to be sent to the area to investigate. If Police had arrived in the neighborhood to check on things while Davey was having his leisurely "doing life" call in the driveway, he would have probably gone inside sooner to make sure everything was ok in his house, and found her sooner. It probably wouldn't have saved her life, but it is so upsetting to think of her lying on the floor, mostly nude and all alone, bleeding, while her little boy was all alone upstairs...

MzOpinion8d said...

Should say all ON the neighbors to report things...

Kate said...

True, we don't know what is on that 911 call, but when that little nugget is released, I'm sure you'll find very few posters who were wrong about this. And once that call is released, along with the other neighborhood calls, my bet is you'll be seeing very few Daveyboy supporters. Tick tock Daveyboy, tick tock.

Anonymous said...

MzOpinion8d,

Just to clarify, I am the person who was talking about 911 calls where people ask for help for themselves. I am not Anonymous from 9:55 a.m.

The 911 operator would have been asking him very specific questions ... Amanda's age, if she had any health issues, whether or not she's breathing, if she is on the bed or the floor so CPR could be given if needed, etc. If was only answering those questions, her lack of undies might not have come up in the short time between his call and when the EMTs arrived. WE DON'T KNOW.

Seems to me the bleeding from her head and the fact that she was unconscious would be far more important to tell the 911 operator than to start describing how she was clothed.

The 911 call is very important, otherwise people wouldn't be chomping at the bit to hear it. So if you're going to include that in your list, you should stick to the known facts.





If the guy is evil and the Anti-Christ and as obviously guilty as so many insist he is, folks shouldn't have to make stuff up to make him look bad, right?

Anonymous said...

Just to reiterate ...

This is was MsOpinion8d's list says:

"-call 911 to report your wife has injured herself, even though there are extremely obvious signs of someone else being in the house...panties don't get knocked off in a fall"


The documents DO NOT say he reported that she "injured herself." It's just not true, no matter how much you want it to be.

Anonymous said...

What is WRONG with people who can't even dial 911 when it is obvious that something disturbing is going on in their own neighborhood, on the very street they live on! It doesn't cost one red cent to call 911 for LE. As a matter of fact they have already paid the salaries of these LE, and they don't want to disturb them???! What do they think they're on salary for?

So Davey was sitting in his car chatting it up with his old buddy Kenny just before the car left the driveway of his neighbors home that was burglarized? It would appear that way. Why didn't he call for LE himself!!!

I just can't believe that he had no idea what had taken place in his own home or that he wasn't a party to it himself. For one thing, how did the thugs know the occupant of the neighbors house didn't get home from work until 8:00am? And why did they choose that particular neighborhood to commit their mayhem, driving way out there from across town?

Just to get a $400 limit debit card while driving a stolen car and risk being caught in the neighbors home where they lolly-gagged around killing time and only took mdse they could have gotten on the other side of town? They HAD to know when the occupant would be coming home. If this isn't a set up I can't imagine what is!

If LE can't get to the bottom of Amanda's murder, rooting out EVERYONE who was involved, they need to be locked up themselves; which, I doubt they can now after letting Davey get away with and/or dispose of all the evidence they would have needed to implicate him. This is an unbelievable set up, with LE blatantly ignoring evidence of Davey's involvement. ABB

Anonymous said...

OK, page 14 of 25 in the affidavit of probable cause documents STATES in black and white -

"At 8:22am, Tuesday November 10, 2015, David Blackburn called 911 reporting that he found his wife, Amanda, injured and unconscious on the living room floor of their home at 2812 Sunnyfield Court".

his words were "INJURED AND UNCONSCIOUS ON THE FLOOR" - I hate to yell but this is in direct contradiction to anonymous at 4:31pm's statement above stating that the documents DO NOT say he reported that she "injured herself".....

The affidavit goes on to state "Indianapolis Fire Department Engine 12 responded to the scene" (Fire responded because Davey reported it as a medical incident and not a crime scene).

The affidavit then states "At 8:30am, IFD 12 requested the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department to respond for a possible assault".

Fire requested police because it was obvious to them that this was a crime scene. 911 call was at 8:22am. Not sure how long it would take them to roll and arrive at the Blackburn residence - but by 8:30am they were calling for police reinforcements. They knew what they were seeing was a crime scene as soon as they walked in the door.

Anonymous at 4:31pm, read page 14 - short of hearing the call ourselves, all we have to go on is what the affidavit states. What Davey said and chose not to say was a calculated effort to avoid police involvement for absolutely as long as possible.

flightbulbird

Anonymous said...

Wanders off to see the location of IFD Engine 12 fire station and its proximity to the Blackburn residence - it would be really interesting if they were seven or eight minutes away. . . 8:22am 911 call, 8:30am call to summon police assistance !

flightfulbird

Louise K said...

I would just like to say here that I find the use of the word "panties" incredibly Offensive and please just STOP okay

Anonymous said...

Engine 12 station (as far as I can tell) is at 2151 Kessler Blvd.

Google maps states 5, 6 or 7 minutes transit time from this location to 2812 Sunnyfield Court depending on traffic and depending on route. This is a Sunday afternoon at 4:53pm.

Again, the 911 call was made at 8:22am - if the operator notified the company to roll immediately, how long would it take for them to mobilize and get the truck out of the station and drive to the Blackburn residence in morning traffic, lights and sirens or not?

The eight-minute timeframe between the start of the 911 call and the call from the house made by the fire personnel indicates that they knew right away when they walked in that there was more to the story, that this "injured and unconscious" person had been the victim of a crime.

flightfulbird

Anonymous said...

because they were driving for most of that 8:22am ---> 8:30am timeframe !

Louise K said...

Amanda was apparently shot on the stairs

I suggest it was not Immediately Obvious she had been Assaulted if she was found in a pool of blood at the base of the stairs (at least that's what Davey assumed)

Apart from the underwear - the underwear that shouldn't be off -

Davey overdid the alibi and overdid the staging

Amateur.

Anonymous said...

Definitely overdid the alibi (as well as the staging). How convenient that Kenneth Wagner would tweet on that morning at that particular time. His statement analysis was also interesting - "what you need to know about this story". Story - the word alone smacks of something that is made up - a bedtime story.

rosy said...

It took the fire department 8 minutes to reach the house after the 911 call.

It took the police 14 minutes to reach the house after the FD called them from the house.

That's six more minutes, almost twice as long, for police to respond than for FD with medics on board.

If a relative of mine was on the floor unconscious and bleeding, my first hope would be that she would be taken to the hospital as fast as possible.

One factor I've not seen anyone mention is that Amanda was pregnant. DB may have mentioned that in the 911 call. Pregnant women sometimes pass out. They faint. From the first page to come up, U of M medical center:

"Dizziness or Fainting During Pregnancy
Feeling dizzy or faint is very common during pregnancy. It generally does not mean something is wrong. It is most common during the first trimester, but it can happen anytime during pregnancy. Dizziness and fainting (syncope) are often caused by a drop in blood pressure. This is from the hormones released during pregnancy that relax the body’s blood vessels. Too little blood is then pumped up to the brain. When this happens, you lose consciousness (faint). Fainting is not dangerous to you or your baby unless you fall and hurt yourself."

Anonymous said...

Affidavit of probable cause also states the circumstances of Davey's finding Amanda - pages 14 and 15. Detective Pete Perkins spoke with David Blackburn at Methodist (hospital). Paraphrasing now to shorten - Davey said that he left his home, went to gym, LEFT FRONT DOOR UNLOCKED when he left, left gym while talking to Kenneth Wagner and stayed on driveway on phone with him until 8:20am.

Davey stated to Detective Perkins that-
1. he found Amanda face down lying in blood on the living room floor
2. nude with her panties next to her and her shirt pulled up as if someone had tried to pull it off BUT
3. it was not clear if she had been sexually assaulted
4. he noticed her credit cards and wallet on the floor
5. he noticed her purse on the counter and a package of Swisher Sweet cigars on the counter
6. he stated that the Swisher Sweet package should not be in their residence
7. a decorative ladder and a lamp were knocked over in the living room next to Amanda Blackburn

These are things DAVEY NOTICED when he arrived home and then stated to the detective who interviewed him at the hospital. These are not hearsay or what the fire engine company / first responders saw. He called 911 at 8:22am after allegedly walking in at 8:20 and finding Amanda "in the condition she was in", as Kenneth Wagner said.

As many movies as this guy has to have watched (including the Final Destination films which have all of the deaths that happen from strange coincidences and with almost impossible odds for everything to have happened the way it did to kill these people in the films), he HAD to know this was not an accident and that this was, again for the hundredth time, A CRIME SCENE ! Whether he had anything to do with it or not (and I absolutely think he did, no question), anyone who has watched TV or movies knows a crime scene from a residential accident or fall.

We don't know that he didn't say any of this to 911 operator because we've not been able (yet) to hear the call - but from the operator's response of only sending medical personnel, Davey gave no indication whatsoever that he had seen ANY of this when he walked in. He just said "injured and unconscious".

He could obviously tell that someone other than Amanda and Weston had been in his house while he was gone. If he wasn't trying to avoid police presence, he totally would've had time during the call to say some of this to the operator. And we know he didn't. . . because. . . the operator sent only the personnel that he/she felt were needed to attend to the victim given the circumstances of which they were made aware ! !

flightfulbird

Anonymous said...

flightfulbird ... NO, the documents do NOT contradict what I said. "Injured herself" implies she somehow HURT HERSELF rather than being assaulted. That's NOT what the document says.

Also, when you throw in the part that says "Fire responded because Davey reported it as a medical incident and not a crime scene," that's more creative writing. We DON'T KNOW exactly what he said. He might've told the dispatcher he had no freakin idea what happened and didn't actually specify whether he thought she hurt herself or was assaulted.

One thing I can guarantee you: He didn't say, "My wife is injured and unconscious," then just sit there. He said a whole lot more than that, so it's just silly to act like that tiny sentence in the document is really a good representation of the entire call.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting this, Anonymous at 5:26:

"Davey stated to Detective Perkins that-
1. he found Amanda face down lying in blood on the living room floor
2. nude with her panties next to her and her shirt pulled up as if someone had tried to pull it off BUT
3. it was not clear if she had been sexually assaulted
4. he noticed her credit cards and wallet on the floor
5. he noticed her purse on the counter and a package of Swisher Sweet cigars on the counter
6. he stated that the Swisher Sweet package should not be in their residence
7. a decorative ladder and a lamp were knocked over in the living room next to Amanda Blackburn"


It's important to point that that in No. 2 above, it says nothing about her still being exposed when EMT/police got there as many folks have claimed. Davey found her that way, yes, but it's just more fiction when people say he didn't cover her up.

Kate said...

Anon, you're right, he most likely did say a whole lot more, but that's speculation as well, we don't know if Davey hung up or the call was dropped, we do not know how much time Davey spent on the line with 911, do we? Typical procedure is for the call to last until an emt/le/fd arrives, was that the case with Davey's call? And if so, that 911 call will be very revealing. If you think about it, that's a lot of time for Davey to be flapping his jaws, may or may not be, very incriminating.

Kate said...

He may also be using this time to go up and check on Weston, indicating the baby was fine, only Amanda was hurt.

Anonymous said...

Peter can you take a look at Daveys latest Twitter post of Amanda's journal entry he posted a short time ago.

Louise K said...

What we need is what EMT noticed

was she covered? Had Davey attempted Recovery Action?

Yes/No

Louise K said...

I just took a look at Twitter

Notice the post from Amanda's journal Davey posted is about Davey (as is everything else)


This guy is unbelievable

Louise K said...

They're flogging T shits (typo, keeping)over on Twitter

T Shirts for Amanda (All Proceeds go to Davey)

No mention of Weston...

WTF

Louise K said...

Davey over alibi-ed

It should've been

1. I was at the gym working out

OR

2. I was bromancing Pastor Kenneth on the phone

NOT BOTH

It is literally impossible to do both at the same time.

Idiot. Tsk *shakes head

Louise K said...

It is my personal belief that Davey does not have the support of his own congregation

As far as I know he's never spoken to them since it happened, face to face.

He's failed to Pastor them, in other words.

There's only a couple of reasons I can think of for this and the Most Likely One is - the Congregation also think something's hinky

Davey said "i cant wait to get back with you all on Sunday" (pp) then didn't = he was sacked or put on forced leave imo.



lynda said...

Anonymous said...
flightfulbird ... NO, the documents do NOT contradict what I said. "Injured herself" implies she somehow HURT HERSELF rather than being assaulted. That's NOT what the document says.

Also, when you throw in the part that says "Fire responded because Davey reported it as a medical incident and not a crime scene," that's more creative writing. We DON'T KNOW exactly what he said. He might've told the dispatcher he had no freakin idea what happened and didn't actually specify whether he thought she hurt herself or was assaulted.

One thing I can guarantee you: He didn't say, "My wife is injured and unconscious," then just sit there. He said a whole lot more than that, so it's just silly to act like that tiny sentence in the document is really a good representation of the entire call

________________________________________________

Give it a rest Anon. As stated somewhere above, 911 operators are trained to pull as much info out of the caller as humanly possible. Why? To PROTECT the people they are sending! Whatever Davey DIDN"T say, 911 ONLY sent EMTs. Having been in the medical field for 30+ years, those EMT's would have been PISSED when they got to the scene and immediately knew it was a crime scene. If there would have been any HINT from DAvey that a crime would have taken place, that operator would have sent police because to send EMT's to an open and uninvestigated crime scene is reckless and endangering to their lives. When those EMT's saw that crime scene they immediately called for police. Why? They had no idea if perp was still in the house! The scene hadn't been cleared for EMT's. They had no idea that Davey wasn't the perp, just shot his wife, and would pull a gun out of his pants and shoot them! Police are ALWAYS sent if there is a possibility that there was a crime! They HAVE to clear the scene before EMT's go in. I should say, that is protocol.

No, we don't have 911 tape. It will be interesting when we do. If Davey relayed there was a crime scene and that she had been SHOT by an unknown and the 911 operator failed to send police, than 911 is likely looking at a lawsuit from someone.

Anonymous said...

Did LE retrieve any of the stolen electronics?
DB claims a blue bag with books and a Macbook was stolen. I think it is very odd that such a high dollar laptop would be stored in a book bag because it would offer no protection. On the other hand, if this was something they put it in to carry,I can't imagine Davey noticing/reporting it missing in addition to his computer. The Affadavit doesn't say anything about "Taylor" bringing this blue bag out when he supposedly brought out the debit card and the person seen walking is not carrying it.

I am convinced that this computer has a wealth of information that's crucial for this investigation and for that reason it will never be recovered.

KK

Rella said...

Louise K....

Davey not being with his congregation Sunday may have had something to do with the school district referring his weapon waving sermon to the IMPD.

Rella said...

Louise K....

Also, I love your wit!

Louise K said...

Thanks Rella not everyone gets it lol

I follow another case with a Blue Bag and I tell ya, it almost seems like Staging 101 - get thee a Blue Bag to Go Missing.

Louise K said...

Rella,

they would've met in someone's yard

they would've met in a donated church

they would've met SOMEWHERE

but no.

They met, as usual, the only thing missing was Davey.

:)

Heh.

Rella said...

Louise.....

Mhm, yes you're right. Davey has shown us time and again what kind of "pastor" he is.

Louise K said...

OK re 911 tapes -

I believe that they are obtainable under FoI - media usually gets em

the only exception would be if they were part of an ongoing investigation

This tends to imply that there is an ongoing investigation that centres/requires the 911 call to remain Unreleased/exempt from FoI

which in turn tends to imply involvement of DB

as if there wasn't already enough red flags

The c*** put more of Amandas journal on Twitter

vulgar beyond words

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
his words were "INJURED AND UNCONSCIOUS ON THE FLOOR" - I hate to yell but this is in direct contradiction to anonymous at 4:31pm's statement above stating that the documents DO NOT say he reported that she "injured herself".....

The affidavit goes on to state "Indianapolis Fire Department Engine 12 responded to the scene" (Fire responded because Davey reported it as a medical incident and not a crime scene).

The affidavit then states "At 8:30am, IFD 12 requested the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department to respond for a possible assault".

Anonymous at 4:31pm, read page 14 - short of hearing the call ourselves, all we have to go on is what the affidavit states. What Davey said and chose not to say was a calculated effort to avoid police involvement for absolutely as long as possible.
flightbulbird
December 13, 2015 at 4:47 PM
-----------------------------------
"Injured and unconscious", you have concluded those were Davey's exact words? All I can do is SMH, Obviously, and lucky for you, you've never been on either end of an actual 911 call where a victim is in a state of crisis lying in a pool of blood. And to think that a man as verbose as DB, who in your mind staged the entire tragedy, would speak in such rational, succinct terms is absurd and contradictory to your portrayal of Davey Blackburn.

Of course reported it as a medical emergency because first and foremost it WAS a medical emergency. Once the initial dispatcher established that, Davey would have been transferred to an IFD/EMS dispatcher, who would have asked more questions, and gathered additional details. From there, it was in the hands of IFD/EMS, and up to them to call for police assistance, which they did. Further, despite all of your time and distance calculations, we don't know if the call for police assistance was made before or after IFD 12 reached the residence.

To state that Davey made a "calculated effort to avoid police involvement for as long as possible" is another ludicrous argument. How much time did he buy for himself? An extra five minutes? What would be his motivation? What would he possibly gain by saying that Amanda injured herself? Or by intentionally refusing to acknowledge that he walked in on what appeared to be a crime scene? Again, if he is this conniving, evil villain who went to the extremes of tracking down a few thugs to murder his wife, or to stage a murder for which he was responsible, he'd be shouting it out loud from the start. It's a ridiculous notion not even worth addressing, except for the fact that others who don't know better read this garbage and believe it.

To accuse a man of murder based on fabrications is wrong. And as another anon pointed out, if he's SO obviously guilty, the truth will find its way. Why the need to lie?

Anonymous said...

Unless DB hung up, Dispatch would have kept him on the line until FD arrived. Giving them a couple mins to get equipment and get inside, he would have probably been on the line for 4-5 mins. That's a long time for the trained Dispatcher not to hear anything that alerted them to the need for police.

KK

Louise K said...

Its entirely possible Davey told two different things to two different people, also

Anonymous said...

Yes, I would also think the EMTs would be there in 4-5 minutes. I'm not sure about in Indianapolis, but, where I live (small metro area in another state) our first responders have some kind of remote to change lights to green so they can rapidly respond. And, of course, cars are supposed to pull over for fire trucks, etc. In any event, if it had been made clear that it was not only a medical emergency, but that it appeared something suspicious had happened, such as a home invasion, etc. (during the 4 -5 minutes that the operator kept him on the phone, asked questions, etc), the police would have been dispatched asap.

Also, per neighbors possibly not wanting to bother police with false alarms:
Police have a non-emergency number (where I live). If one doesn't know it, he/she can call 911 and say it might not be an emergency, but....Anyway, moot point, as it turns out it was an emergency.

-L

Anonymous said...

The Kenneth tweet on the morning of Amanda's murder was at 8.18. am.

Ergo, the alibi call between Kenneth and Crazy Davey ended BEFORE 8.18.am

The 911 call was made at 8.22.

Four minutes (at the very least, more likely five) seems like quite a long time, even allowing for running upstairs to check on Weston, (assuming he did, in fact, check on Weston before calling 911)

The driveway is very close to the house. It can't have taken more than 30 seconds to walk inside.

Who knows? Maybe he boiled an egg.



Anonymous said...

Oh, Davey also needed to let Amanda's dog out of the garage, in addition to checking on Weston and boiling an egg.

-L

Anonymous said...

Oh, and I would like to add that I don't think DB hung up.

As a retired Paramedic in a large Metropolitan City, I also spent a lot of time in the Dispatch Center. When the caller would hang up and not answer the call back, the Police would be dispatched to make sure there wasn't a problem with foul play or someone being panicked and hindering care.

KK

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 7:14pm, are you Davey or one of his friends?

The affidavit says that ENGINE 12 requested Indy Metro Police to respond for a possible assault - they requested at 8:30am (probably almost immediately after they walked in).

The 911 operator dispatched Engine 12 based on the situation that had been described. Whatever Davey did or didn't say in exact words, these trained operators know to dispatch whatever equipment might be needed - and I imagine they would err on the side of having too much presence rather than not enough - as in, if there was any shred of doubt in their mind as to whether or not police were needed at the scene or not, they would've had them there.

911 didn't send police because they had no indication that police were needed. In all of the time they were on the phone with Davey and whatever was said, he still did not give any of the information that he gave Detective Perkins at the hospital. If he had said ANY of those statements I itemized above from the affidavit (and all of them would've been better to say, if he wanted the police there) - police would've been sent. It wasn't until Engine 12 arrived that the police were requested to come to the scene.

flightfulbird

Anonymous said...

"She always hated me reading" her journal.

"Amanda never wanted to be on display, ever."

Way to go, Davey. Do you ever listen to yourself?

Louise K said...

flightful - I agree

Does this mean that Davey never called Police At All? Just 911 and said "she's hurt" or some such?

oh to hear that 911 call...

Louise K said...

"911 what's your emergency"

"oh hai. I am Lead Pastor at Resonate Indy, My Name is Davey Blackburn, how are you today? Well I just hung up from my regular scheduled call and came in the house (I work out a lot you know) and gosh, there's my bestest ever Helpmate cracked her skull. Can you come? oh, I don't know....gee she's got her underwear torn off - nah don't send Police she's just fallen down the stairs, you know, she's not very well read and all"

Something like that...?

Anonymous said...

Crazy Davey obviously didn't tell 911 that Amanda had been shot.

Louise K said...

Also im no expert

but guns smell right? gunpowder

so if 3 shots had been fired in a closed room

and old DB came along and found the missus bleeding No Apparent Cause

wouldn't he (the Marksman) SMELL the gunpowder...?

See the bullet hole/s?

REALISE by a combination of his 5 senses, that a shooting had taken place...? He keeps guns!!!!

Nope, apparently not.

ER smelt it though. They took one look at Amanda and called Police.

Louise K said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
"She always hated me reading" her journal.

"Amanda never wanted to be on display, ever."

Way to go, Davey. Do you ever listen to yourself?

December 13, 2015 at 7:49 PM


***********************************

Apparently not

I found something on his web page that sounds like Pedophilic Grooming

None of the sheeple reacted to this at all apparently

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:14, I dispatched for IPD/Marion County Sheriffs Dept in 1997 and also for another major city in California prior and it's obvious to me that you are either Davey or the dumbass who helped him plan this dastardly deed. Unless there is still a perpetrator on hand and you are giving suspect information, 911 dispatchers transfer you to the appropriate agencies dispatch center in large cities with major crime instead of keeping you on the phone. If you need over the phone medical assistance while waiting for EMS,such as talking someone thru CPR, the EMS dispatcher would talk you through it.

The bottom line is Lynda explained the process perfectly and she is right and you are wrong!

And Davey, God gave me a message for you while I was in the garden today
Hebrews 10-29,30
How much worse punishment do you think will he deserve, the one having trampled upon the Son of God, and having esteemed ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and having insulted the Spirit of Grace.
For we know the One having said, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge His people."

Pioneer Bee

Bobcat said...

Isaiah 1:15
"When you spread out your hands in prayer, I hide my eyes from you; even when you offer many prayers, I am not listening. Your hands are full of blood!"

Rabbit said...

Anonymous @7:49 pm said...
"She always hated me reading" her journal.

"Amanda never wanted to be on display, ever."

Way to go, Davey. Do you ever listen to yourself?

December 13, 2015 at 7:49 PM
-----

This! Why on earth would Davey decide that it's okay to share Amanda's journal to the world - and of all places on Twitter? What conversation did he have with himself that made it okay to disregard her personal wishes? "She alway hated me reading her journal so let me cherry pick stuff in it to capitalize on my agenda now that she's dead and can't object."

Yes Davey, let's assault her one more time by exploiting her private and personal writings to God for your own gain. Davey, you are disgusting excuse for a human being.

I'm an atheist but this quote from Proverbs 24:20 seems appropriate:

"For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out."

Louise K said...

Its almost agony

like watching it in slo mo

slowly, ever so slowly unwinding from the Glorious Vision of Prophetry

to the solitary pleasures of death row

Anonymous said...

If you haven't already done so, I strongly suggest you read Peter's analysis of murderer, Raven Aberoa's 911 call, on this blog.

One of the things I will be very interested to know is if CD checked on Weston before he called 911 or not.

Raven Aberoa did not.

Louise K said...

Davey himself told us Weston sleeps 12 hours a night no matter what.

The chances are he slept through everything, as he was supposed to.



Anonymous said...

Louis K,

OT - You are not alone in the words that you find offensive.

http://youtu.be/hDjJ4Y4uSTk

Anonymous said...

Louise K, his 911 call would initially have been screened by Police Dispatch. This would have been a pretty quick process to put him through to EMS Dispatch.
The brief communication with the Police Dispatcher could have consisted of an appropriate request for EMS and not be suspicious. However, the extended communication with the EMS Dispatcher, who would have been trying to ascertain specific information about the patient's condition and the scene should have elicited something about that horrindous scene that would have alerted them. If the information he provided minimalized or in some way portrayed the scene in such a way that didn't indicate the need for LE, that would seem extremely suspicious of someone deliberately trying to prevent LE from being dispatched.

Also, I think it's important to point out that the normal thing for anyone to do after getting medical care on the way for there loved one, would be to specifically request police in order to catch whoever was responsible. I could see myself becoming so despondent that ALL I could manage to scream after getting the ambulance sent, was "Get the police! Get the f/!+ing police here, NOW"! I can not imagine there being any ambiguity. Maybe DB was struggling with that "conundrum" BS as "they" were just torn betweening wanting to be forgiving blah, blah, blah........blah,blah...blah....total line of DISGUSTING BULLS/*T!!!!

KK

Anonymous said...

Frightful bird and KK also understand how the real world of dispatching works not the tv version


Pioneer Bee

Anonymous said...

A very good point about the 911 call. I had a family member that passed out and hit his head last week.

His wife called 911. She was not required to STAY ON THE PHONE until the EMTs arrived because the family member did not seem to be in immediate danger.

I also called 911 when my father thought he was having a heart attack. I was not required to stay on the phone until the EMTs arrived.

My husband called 911 after I had an episode and on the verge of passing out. My husband was not required to stay on the phone until EMTs arrived.

Curious. So, if the dispatcher does not receive info that the injured/sick person is in immanent danger, only EMTs are dispatched?

Anonymous said...

Imminent danger, sorry!

Anonymous 9:38

M said...

Anon at 9:38 - It depends on the department. We are in a 'bedroom' community of Indy. Here an injured person gets the appropriate EMS personnel plus a police officer. The current police chief wants it dispatched that way.

Hey - I have another question. On page 7 of the PC - there is one sentence that jumps off the page at me every time I read it. It's near the bottom of the page. The detective is talking about the pink sweater and throws this in there:

"She said it was one of her favorite sweaters when she saw a photograph of it."

It seems so out of place and unnecessary. Does that sentence bug anyone but me? I'm not suggesting it has any hidden meaning - it's just weird.

Anonymous said...

So many similarities with this case and the Amy Smart case. She was also a "media darling" after having her husband killed. Watching it right now on ID Discovery. Mo seems to be the same - loves attention, the limelight, etc.

Anonymous said...

Anon@9:23

In the three examples you gave, each person was conscious and not hemorrhaging,therefore the Dispatcher may not have seen the need to have the caller on the line to receive instructions. In a case where someone is unconscious and/or bleeding the Dispatcher is required to try and stay in contact with the caller to provide first aid instruction. During this time, they are also gathering key information in order to dispatch appropriate personell and also to pass onto the responding units.

KK

Anonymous said...

Pamela Smart, I mean!

Anonymous 10:15

lynda said...

Pioneer Bee said..

Anonymous 7:14, I dispatched for IPD/Marion County Sheriffs Dept in 1997 and also for another major city in California prior and it's obvious to me that you are either Davey or the dumbass who helped him plan this dastardly deed. Unless there is still a perpetrator on hand and you are giving suspect information, 911 dispatchers transfer you to the appropriate agencies dispatch center in large cities with major crime instead of keeping you on the phone. If you need over the phone medical assistance while waiting for EMS,such as talking someone thru CPR, the EMS dispatcher would talk you through it.

The bottom line is Lynda explained the process perfectly and she is right and you are wrong!

And Davey, God gave me a message for you while I was in the garden today
Hebrews 10-29,30
How much worse punishment do you think will he deserve, the one having trampled upon the Son of God, and having esteemed ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and having insulted the Spirit of Grace.
For we know the One having said, "Vengeance is mine; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge His people."

Pioneer Bee
December 13, 2015 at 8:19 PM

__________________________________

BAM! Go play somewhere else Anon (Davey, Perry, babysitter, banger, take your pick)

Anonymous said...

Cut/pasted from DataLounge thread #4 on this case - I LOVE the second paragraph/line !

"Not only did Davey sit in his driveway on the phone for 40 minutes while Amanda lay dying, he also left his front door unlocked when he left that morning for the gym. Also interesting to note that when the police asked him he actually remembered that he left the door unlocked.

I always thought you forget to lock the door, not remember that you didn't."


Davey told the detective he left the door unlocked. Very nice coincidence that on a day he left the door unlocked, these random perpetrators came clear across town and all the way back into this culdesac in this subdivision to this house and walked straight in through the unlocked front door !

flightfulbird

Anonymous said...

Yes anonymous at 7:14pm, you should totally go to Websleuths where you will find moderators of your ilk who won't allow a word against Davey, or even an inkling that he might be involved. Or, maybe those moderators are stuck on the idea of it being a "victim-friendly" forum and have to enforce that, but really deep down think he is guilty as well . . .

Anonymous said...

And Pamela Smart left the door unlocked for the murderers . . . .

Anonymous said...

also cut/pasted from DataLounge -

"there is nothing regarding this case that you have seen, heard or thought of that law enforcement hasn't seen, heard or thought of first. They're all over this asshole and have been all over him since the minute he called 911 the day he had her killed. It may take a little time but they will get him for this."

I certainly hope this is true ! It has to be so obvious to Indy LE that something isn't right - that a TON of things aren't right and don't add up.

flightfulbird

lynda said...

Bird...That's just ole Crazy DAvey covering all his bases.

Left in time before the bangers got there...check
Made sure I was seen on video during the "incident"....check
Placed call to friend when I left the gym so cops could see where ping started....check
Sat in my driveway for 40 minutes while my wife was dying and neighbors camera would pick me up also NOT getting out of car .....check
Called 911 implying that wife was unconscious and bleeding but NOT a crime......check
Got EMT's there to trample scene and contaminate crime scene.......check

Got to ride in ambulance to hospital since I didn't say police were needed so I would be gone when police got there and wouldn't have to answer questions there..........check
Unfriended the killers on FB........check
Let the dog out...check
According to the PC..Davey told police at 8:05 am at the hospital that things were missing. How did he know?? You walk in, find your wife in a bloody heap and trust me,it was bloody, she was still alive, the blood kept pumping out of her wounds, supposedly call 911 immediately, they arrive approx. 8 min later. How did he know that things had been stolen? He did a whole house search while waiting for EMT? Left his ALIVE wife on the floor, all alone, while he took a stroll thru the house?

I would also like to know how much blood was on Davey. THAT would be very telling.

Maggie said...

Frightfulbird,

That was a huge red flag for me too. Wouldn't you be like "I thought I locked the door, I always lock the door - wow, did I forget to lock the door?"

Unless he never locked the door, which seems HIGHLY unlikely.

lynda said...

Whoops! I forgot the all important

Left the door unlocked....CHECK

lynda said...

There is a HUGE amount of "politicking" going on in this town, and in government entities. I am fearful Amanda may never receive justice because of it

Anonymous said...

I remember watching an episode of dateline where a guy had hired someone to kill his estranged wife but the person he had been referred to was actually an undercover detective. They police let her know about it and staged a photo of her shot in the head in the park so photos could be shown to the husband.that the job was done. I was thinking about the affidavit saying the suspect knelt down and watched her bleed out. I wonder if this is so he could report back that the job was done. It's also possible that when DB called 911 he believed she was already dead even though he may have implied she was injured from falling down the stairs. BC

Anonymous said...

I know people who never lock their door or only do it at night.

lynda said...

Anonymous said...
I know people who never lock their door or only do it at night.

December 13, 2015 at 10:56 PM

_____________________________

It WAS night when he left...technically morning but the sun didn't rise for another hour after he left. It was dark as night at 6AM

Anonymous said...

Yes but it was 6 am morning and they could have had a routine thet he didn't lock the door for the hour he was gone at the gym every day. I don't know if there is any way to know if this was normal for him and Amanda to leave the door unlocked. most people never imagine that an intruder will come in their home at 6 am. I religiously lock my doors but I know people who never lock their doors.

Louise K said...

Its like the Madeleine McCann case


they took off and didn't lock the doors either

reason being - nothing valuable was at risk

(except their kiddies but they apparently weren't valued)

Louise K said...

I leave my house every day to go for a walk

all I have is kittens

I lock the kittens up because I value them

Louise K said...

If I could be arsed I would ask ABB why "Lordy Lordy Lordy" isn't considered blasphemous

But I cant be arsed

Anonymous said...

I bet Crazy Davey locked his car.

Anonymous said...


Two things.

1) CD says "IF someone is withholding information". There is no IF. Someone IS withholding information, obviously, or we would know what happened.

2) he points to HIMSELF when he says "someone is withholding information."


http://youtu.be/deWODIYJENQ








http://youtu.be/deWODIYJENQ

Anonymous said...

M,

I remember thinking that was a strange comment to include in the PC
about the pink sweater. After you brought it up, I started thinking about it again. There is a good chance she hadn't even realized that her sweater, oranges and bedsheet were even missing when LE found these items in the stolen car. Because the sweater was seen being used to cover the lower face of person at ATM they knew it probably had DNA. They needed a positive ID of the sweater to link it to Blackburn neigborhood burglary.I think she recognized the sweater in the photo,and when asked if she was sure it was hers, she probably responded that she was sure because it was her favorite. This makes it a positive ID.

☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

On a different note...

I found an Instagram account linked to LT and the person that according to the PC, he shared the phone with.

This instagram account is set to private. I found it while going through the comments on Bull's Instagram. The profile pic has this person with LT standing behind them holding a full hand of what appears to be $100 bills over his lower face. The person he's pictured with is definitely unique in that Northside community and this connection stands out to me as just bizarre.

I would really like to hear, preferably from a Moderator if it's ok to post this account name.

KK

Louise K said...

oh go ahead and post it

Louise K said...

I suspect Davey had no blood on him

I doubt he tended to Amanda at all

she was supposed to be dead remember

the idiot probably thought she was and didn't have the nuts to check

mom2many said...

Was Davey late that day because he was waiting around to be sure the perps were in the neighborhood before he left? Could there have been a signal between the two houses? It appears from mapping the two locations, one perhaps could see the front of the Blackburn house from the side windows of the neighbor house that was burglarized.

Anonymous said...

>>>I think it's important to point out that the normal thing for anyone to do after getting medical care on the way for there loved one, would be to specifically request police in order to catch whoever was responsible. I could see myself becoming so despondent that ALL I could manage to scream after getting the ambulance sent, was "Get the police! Get the f!+ing police here, NOW"! I can not imagine there being any ambiguity.<<<
I have to disagree. I would be screaming for an ambulance at that point in time. I would worry about catching the criminal after I had time to process all that had happened, which could be hours or days.
Shelley

Kate said...

I think Davey was late to the gym that day because he was the one who commited the sexual assault. That's just my opinion. I also think he's the one that punched her in the mouth, it was her bottom tooth that got knocked out, that had to have hurt like hell.

It went from sexual assault to not enough evidence to press charges. What changed?

M said...

Anon @7:14 yesterday

I would agree that he probably didn't use that language. I would also agree that DB is verbose - which might be his undoing with that 911 call.

You are wrong about who called for police. That's in the affidavit. EMS called for it after they got there.

I think most people would be surprised to see police show up if they called for help for an injured person.

What did he do in that 5 minutes? who knows - let the dog out of the crate?

Not a Robot said...

I wish the rumor that he left late for the gym that day hadn't become fact. It may or may not be true, but the person who said it was a troll trying to spread misinformation. He also said another woman had been shot in a home invasion that same morning, which was never reported to be true by law enforcement or media. Therefore I don't think his/her story about DB always leaving at 5:30 am except that day is true.

I think it's quite likely DB was involved in this but it's better for our credibility when we stick to the verified facts.

Anonymous said...

I wonder who is the early bird who posted again about the Indy shirts at 4 am this morning. Hmmmn I just don't know who that would of been....

On a related note, one of the church members posted on their fB page to get a shirt soon because the sale ends on Wednesday. Hurry folks while they last so Davwy can pay taxes on his new SUV.

MzOpinion8d said...

I'm apparently banned from posting at Websleuths because I said "For a preacher/public speaker, DB makes unfortunate word choices sometimes. "Capitalize" isn't the best word to use when talking about the murder of your wife and unborn child. Hopefully he'll take this time off to really feel his feelings instead of keeping up the "perfect Christian" facade. It's ok to feel angry, upset, and unforgiving when something like this happens!"

And it was called victim bashing and removed.

Anonymous said...

MzOpinion8d: you are a bad girl, daring to defy the omniscient Bessie, who doubles as Davey Blackburn's fan club prez! She think DB is a victim, thus it must be so. That thread = zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Anonymous said...

Shelley,

I don't think we do agree. I'm saying that while I was waiting for the ambulance,I would have been sitting in a pool of blood holding my loved one with a blanket on them,crying and screaming at the top of my lungs into the speaker phone GET THE POLICE HERE!!! GET THE F#/*ING POLICE HERE NOW!!!

When my son was a toddler,my mom and I were at what was the Midwest's version of the Mall of America the day after Christmas. There was an open play area out in a main corridor and Zachariah was running through this tunnel that had identical benches at each end. He had fallen coming out the other side and when he didn't see us sitting on the bench,he kept running looking for us. We had literally taken our eyes off him for secs and he had completely disappeared. This happened so quick, I was convinced that a pedophile had just abducted him, and I started running around screaming this exact thing at the top of my lungs along with "LOCK THE F/*#ING DOORS!!! After about 10 mins of this, we got word that he had been found over 1/2 a mile away on the other side of the mall. The police had recieved many 911 calls and had arrived, but security had not even announced him missing over the intercom. As we were waiting for him to be brought back on the shoulder's of a shopper, I had crowds of people coming up to me telling me I had done the absolute right thing(language and all) because there wasn't a single person in that mall that didn't know a child was missing. Like I said before, there wouldn't have been any ambiguity,that dispatcher would have known to send the police.

Pak31 said...

I'm terrible at posting links but I just read a story about a woman from Nova Scotia who died on vacation. She was possibly hit by a car and was buried in a shallow grave. She was missing for a time and she was married with two small boys. Her husband left her a message on Facebook after her death. His name is Matt Veinotte and you can google if you'd like. To me, his message is what a grieving husband who lost his wife in a tragic way should be like. Praising her, expressing his love for her, saying what a wonderful mom she was. Nothing about him at all. Complete opposite of DB. This should have been how DB spoke of his wife yet it was all about him and his church. I'm convinced more now that he's guilty. He hasn't said one nice thing yet about her.

Anonymous said...

IMO, we will never know the truth of all that went on the morning Amanda was brutally pistol whipped in the face, knocking a tooth out, raped with her panties deliberately left lying beside her, shot three times and left to die. Yes, I do believe she was raped, specifically because I saw and heard a black detective saying so as Nancy disGrace angrily and quickly shut him off (can't recall his name) her show the last time she spoke of this case, while yelling at him for making the statement. He tried to refute her but couldn't.

All evidence in the home of Amanda's attack and murder, as well as her life with Davey has been destroyed and/or allowed by LE to remain in the hands of Davey Blackburn. It is SO obvious that he schemed not to have cops show up at the home until after he had Amanda taken out of the house, deliberately calling for EMS under false pretenses that alluded LE. There would be NO WAY he didn't see her injuries. Everything connected with Amanda's brutal death is too much of a coincidence for him not to have been involved; he HAD to be. He was never investigated but it's too late now; all of the major evidence that could have helped convict him is gone.

I would be repeating myself again to go over what we know about the circumstances and mysterious things we don't know in Amanda's death, and the actions of Davey; it would be the same as others here have outlined repeatedly, as well as Peter's statement analysis from the beginning and along with other professionals, adding up to 'what are the odds?" We have seen from every possible angle that he WAS involved and no angles that he wasn't.

IMO, LE became involved in the cover up of Davey's participation in Amanda's murder. Further, I do not believe they will do anything to go after him now and expose their own malfeasance and sloppy work. It's too late, they cannot recover evidence they let slip through their fingers nor can they make him confess.

They took him at his word that morning and never even considered him a suspect, allowing him to take out everything that belonged to Amanda that could have facilitated knowledge that would have led to his involvement, while never even treating the home as a murder scene. All the evidence has subsequently been contaminated or destroyed.

All that is left is some video tapes of Amanda & Davey's life together, and his sermons where he proves his violent nature, speaks of how much he hated her, hated sex with her, and their marriage, even her pregnancies disgusted him; with others (like us) figuring out the timeline for LE and seeing that he IS a suspect which LE continues to ignore. It is very sad for Amanda, but I do believe her real killer, her husband, will get away with murdering her and masking the cover up, and with a whole lot of help from so-called 'credible' others including local LE. I'm sorry to say, but I do not believe that true justice will be sought or obtained for Amanda's brutal murder. Sure, for the thugs who supposedly did this, but not the real killer, her own husband.

I believe she lived a life of walking on eggshells with Davey, was abused much more than we will ever know or that anyone else ever knew, while she gracefully and humbly took whatever he dished out, knowing that she was treading on dangerous ground with him. If you can imagine how he treated her in front of others, which we've all seen and heard in his sermons and videos, just imagine how much worse he treated her in private.

This reminds me of the Drew Peterson case, where trapped Kathleen lived under such horrendous fear of Drew, knowing what he was capable of and in fear that he might kill her, but also knowing he could get away with killing her; and did, all with a little help from his 'good' friends. If his new wife Tracey had not disappeared he might never have been caught. I'm sorry to say, but IMO, I believe this is petty much the same thing that could happen in Amanda's murder. ABB

Anonymous said...

Seems like he may get away with this. If the police are unwilling to even monitor FB of the connections... (unaware bull was/is selling firearms on FB) all hope is lost.

Do we need to start a new go-fund me page to raise money for a private investigator? There has to be someone willing and able to solve this. Did I hear the carpet was cleaned shortly after the incident? How was the crime scene not protected? If I was DB I would demand the crime scene remain uncontaminated in hopes of trying to solve the crime. I would want every detail preserved. He obviously did not want that...

The 911 call needs to be released and analyzed.

As far as the sexual assault... I agree with the above poster. I believe DB raped Amanda that morning and knocked out her tooth. She would have been in shock and disbelief... trying to decide what to do... (call her mother? call the police? leave the house? etc... ) when only minutes after before she decides what to do about the rape/abuse, in walks the three "burglars"... DB had nothing to lose at that point. Of course he would take advantage of her knowing she was about to be killed. He would have "had his way with her" before having her disposed of. There is no proof/evidence of rape because it was his semen found in/on her. The others would have just left her staged after shooting her.

Is there now way to access the "continuous data" from her smartphone/laptop/computers in the house? Is there not a way to access sound recordings from the house? Are they not always on? The NSA would probably have something...

Concerning the car purchase. That is completely inappropriate. I laid a Soldier to rest and was responsible for sorting though his personal effects and sending them back to his mother. Before his mother got the boxes she had gone out and bought a brand new Camaro... It did not sit well with me. At the very least it shows a lack of love/respect for the deceased to do something like that during the time of grieving. It showed low emotional IQ... EQ...

DB has no EQ...

Anonymous said...

Anon@8:27 was me, KK.

Also if Zachariah had been found, but it was too late, I would have been getting the reward up to the highest amount possible and would have been on every single news show that would take me begging and pleading with the "nation" to help us find the sick monster that was responsible. I certainly wouldn't have been there looking pretty and preaching Jesus and saying some bulls#/* about how I or "we" were in a conundrum about wanting who did this caught because of some crap about forgiveness.

I normally don't cuss much, but I'm so infuriated with this case that I find myself wanting to cuss a lot lately.

KK

Anonymous said...

Lynda said yesterday at 10:33 p.m.:

"BAM! Go play somewhere else Anon (Davey, Perry, babysitter, banger, take your pick)"


Lynda, I'm not sure who you think you are, but last time I checked, you are not in charge here, and you don't get to decide who can and cannot post on Peter's blog. Dissenting opinions are allowed whether you like it or not. Why are you so threatened by those of us who remain open to the idea that Davey Blackburn wasn't involved in his wife's murder?

I've followed this blog for roughly two years, and you're not going to run me off.

(I am not Anonymous from 7:14 p.m. last night, btw ... I am the anonymous person who you told earlier in the evening to "give it a rest," even though you continue to run your mouth.)



Also, can everyone please stop with the childish BS of accusing everyone with a dissenting opinion of being Davey Blackburn or Perry Noble or whomever? I've been accused of being both Davey and the neighborhood watch guy (twice), and it's just ridiculous at this point. Grow up.

Anonymous said...

KK, I understand your feelings well, I have felt the same way; but I have gone beyond getting so angry at cases like this where we sat and waited and waited for LE to take action on cases where we KNEW LE had plenty of evidence to make arrests of murderers but still didn't take action, realizing there is nothing we can do. Not one damned thing. There are so many of these cases. I could make a long list of them. Oh, it IS infuriating alright. The guilty go unpunished in so many of these cases, especially in missing/murdered child and women cases.

It IS infuriating that LE LET Davey con them with his initial call for EMS, by passing them, then let him get away with destroying all the evidence that might have shown his involvement in Amanda's murder; and I feel quite certain WOULD have proved his involvement, while being delighted that they had apprehended someone else they could place it all on, clearing Davey 100%, when they had never investigated Davey OR the crime scene, nor had they confiscated Amanda's cell phone and other phones, neither hers or Davey's computers, her diaries or anything else. They LET him walk off scott free as if he were God executing some kind of warped judgment on Amanda all for his benefit and better things to come just for him.

It infuriates me just as much that neither have her parents or anyone else in her family come forward and DEMANDED an investigation of Davey, or the return of her personal things or that they be investigated, or that they did NOT take any action to instigate a worthwhile reward for the apprehension of her real killer when they could have. It sickens me that they have paid no attention to the way he mistreated their daughter, which, I don't believe now that they ever did.

Likewise, Davey's parents and family members HAVE to know that he is a lose hinge and always was, and that he was/is incompetent to preach, has a violent tendency and should never have been preaching in the first place. They HAD to see how he mistreated Amanda. They ALL let this weirdo big-money machine preacher Nobel run their lives. These people all make my skin crawl. They were never loyal to Amanda, not even in her death. She literally had NO ONE and still doesn't. ABB

Anonymous said...

Why did LE NOT secure the murder scene (i.e. - the Blackburn residence)? By not securing it, they allowed the carpets to be cleaned, a big red flag in itself.

Does LE have to have a search warrant to collect items (journal, etc.) from the scene of murder??? Really?

Anonymous said...

OMG ABB@8:58 that was an amazing post! Actually your's and Anon @9:00 are the two posts that I'm going to have my mom read. She is interested to know what I've learned about this case and why I feel so passionate about it. There is just so much, I find myself not wanting to take up our time discussing it so these posts will give her a pretty thorough overview.Thanks so much.

Sincerely,

KK


Anonymous said...

Interesting . . . . . . .

"Practically speaking ANYTHING and EVERYTHING should be considered as evidence until proven differently. You can never go wrong in over collecting. I cannot recall how many times I that and my detectives returned to a crime scene. This circumstance usually occurred after we received additional information from friends and or family, which revealed that some seemingly innocuous item in the crime scene was actually an important piece of evidence. That is why it is imperative to "hold onto" the crime scene as long as possible. Some item, which didn't seem significant on the first day of the investigation, may suddenly take on the intrinsic value of gold."

PRACTICAL CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION:
Legal Considerations



By
Vernon J. Geberth, M.S., M.P.S.

Anonymous said...

Y/W, KK. Sincerely, ABB

Anon @9:49, I can't answer your questions. I suspect it is the 'good ole boy' network at work all over again. It has far reaching tentacles. They can do whatever they chose and to hell with you. KWIM?

But I will say; should Davey Blackburn chose to sell that house of murder, (and he just might, IFF he can!), if I were the broker, there is NO WAY I would allow that blood soaked carpeting and padding left there, I don't care how much it was cleaned. It WOULD be torn out and the floor underneath it treated and the carpeting either replaced or new flooring installed, or both. It is unsanitary to leave padding and flooring down that has been blood soaked, not to mention gruesome and nightmarish, knowing what lies under the carpeting. Just my thoughts.... ABB

Anonymous said...

"The sins of some men are quite evident, going before them to judgment; for others, their sins follow after." -1 Timothy 5:24


DB will one day answer for his actions, whether it is for merely being a lousy excuse of a husband and pastor or for being the mastermind of his wife's murder... He will face judgment.

mom2many said...

While it is true that we do not know he left at exactly 5:30am every day, I think we can infer that he did leave late that day by some of the facts we do know. If he really did have a weekly phone date with KW, he would have made sure to leave early enough on those days to get his full workout in. The timeline in that regard is pretty tight. Even stronger, others have posted several tweets from Davey about enjoying the quiet of the gym in the early morning in the 5ish am hour.

Anonymous said...

I'm still hopeful about LE, sooner or later, nailing DB. Maybe there is a pervasive good ole boy network, but I can't imagine there's not at least one seasoned detective who has picked up on DB's insincerity, lack of emotions (horror at the scene, grief at the death), and made it his or her mission to catch him. Think about it - we've just read about it (the scene, her death), and watched the videos, and we're shocked. Imagine the LE, as well as paramedics, medical personnel who witnessed it firsthand, and continue to follow his antics.

I have been a social worker for 26 years, in medical and mental health settings. I have a good sense of whether someone is sincere, or lying, or leaving out important information. I come to look at Peter's blog to learn more about what I unknowingly already do, from experience.

I have worked with people who have witnessed an accidental death, or another single incident which has caused them to have crippling anxiety. I cannot imagine how DB (whether involved or not) witnessed his wife bleeding, suffering, etc without having some kind of acute stress reaction. If nothing else, the feelings of guilt (warranted or not) and hopelessness are especially difficult for men, b/c of their role of protecting their wives and families.

The only other possibility I can see, if DB isn't involved, is that he is suppressing his feelings, and will have a breakdown at some future point. I don't think this is the case, but nothing else could explain his lack of appropriate reactions.

sorry to ramble on, but my point is that LE has to see this.
Jo

Anonymous said...

Diano Gordon has now been officially charged as well

http://fox59.com/2015/12/14/third-man-officially-charged-in-burglaries-prior-to-the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn/

Anonymous said...

http://fox59.com/2015/12/14/third-man-officially-charged-in-burglaries-prior-to-the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn/

BB said...


Third man officially charged in burglaries prior to the murder of Amanda Blackburn
POSTED 10:40 AM, DECEMBER 14, 2015, BY AMANDA RAKES - DIGITAL MANAGER, UPDATED AT 10:53AM, DECEMBER 14, 2015

Prior mug shot of Diano Gordon
Prior mug shot of Diano Gordon
INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. (Dec. 14, 2015)— A third man has officially been charged in connection with robberies that occurred prior to the murder of Amanda Blackburn.

Police say 24-year-old Diano Gordon is accused of committing two burglaries with Larry Jo Taylor Jr. and Jalen Watson on the morning of November 10, the day Blackburn was fatally shot.

Gordon is charged with two counts of burglary and two counts of thefts.

Taylor Jr. and Watson have been charged in connection with Blackburn’s death. Taylor was charged with felony murder, three counts of burglary, three counts of theft, robbery resulting in serious bodily injury, criminal confinement, auto theft and carrying a handgun without a license. Watson was charged with murder, three counts of burglary, three counts of theft, robbery resulting in serious bodily injury and auto theft.

Gordon has been in custody since November 19 on a parole violation.

http://fox59.com/2015/12/14/third-man-officially-charged-in-burglaries-prior-to-the-murder-of-amanda-blackburn/

lynda said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lynda said yesterday at 10:33 p.m.:

"BAM! Go play somewhere else Anon (Davey, Perry, babysitter, banger, take your pick)"


Lynda, I'm not sure who you think you are, but last time I checked, you are not in charge here, and you don't get to decide who can and cannot post on Peter's blog. Dissenting opinions are allowed whether you like it or not. Why are you so threatened by those of us who remain open to the idea that Davey Blackburn wasn't involved in his wife's murder?

I've followed this blog for roughly two years, and you're not going to run me off.

(I am not Anonymous from 7:14 p.m. last night, btw ... I am the anonymous person who you told earlier in the evening to "give it a rest," even though you continue to run your mouth.)



Also, can everyone please stop with the childish BS of accusing everyone with a dissenting opinion of being Davey Blackburn or Perry Noble or whomever? I've been accused of being both Davey and the neighborhood watch guy (twice), and it's just ridiculous at this point. Grow up.

December 14, 2015 at 9:24 AM

__________________________________________

First, I told you to give it a rest because you REFUSED to acknowledge Carnival Barker's suggestion to read certain paragraphs of the PC affidavit and kept insisting that what we were saying was not true. Read what he suggested, don't just keep up with your insistence that you were right when it is obvious you didn't read what CB was telling you. Yeah, I'll stick with that...give that a rest. You've said what you wanted to say over and over and over again. We get it.
If you been on this blog for 2 years..pick a name Even Peter wants people to pick a name.

I am not trying to "run you off" I never said that so don't say I did.

Then your little slam that I used the word "I" when I was saying what would have been ExPEcTEd for Davey on the 911. Yeah, yeah, I get that too. To use a quick example of what I was trying to say and subjecting it to SA was a little much. Good for you.

I'm done talking to you about this matter. You're entitled to your opinion, as am I.

Anonymous said...

And sadly, the comments on the Fox 59 facebook page concerning Gordon's arrest are all negative racial comments.
https://www.facebook.com/Fox59News/posts/10153872787164575
Pretty much the same if you search the #AmandaBlackburn hashtag on twitter. It's a shame that a portion of the public use this story to further their own personal agendas because this story is so much more than that IMO.

lynda said...

So, they just have Gordon so far on the burglaries, not the murder. At least this will keep him in jail longer.

Anonymous said...

The prosecutor has to have enough evidence to convict. It took over 3 years for Jason Young to be arrested for the murder of his wife Michelle. And during those 3 years, LE never talked about whether he was (or was not) a suspect. He never even asked how his wife died. But the entire 3 years, he was never named a suspect. Then finally, BAM, they arrested him. During his first trial, there was a hung jury. He was convicted during the 2nd trial. There's more, but I won't elaborate.

My point is that regardless of what we think, LE may well be doing X, Y and Z. They don't have to share diddly squat with us. And they could arrest on mere suspicion, but unless they have enough evidence to convict, it defeats the purpose to arrest prematurely since if they cannot get a conviction, double jeopardy kicks in.

Maybe we shouldn't claim LE as bumbling idiots just yet. We don't know what they know that they're rightfully withholding during their investigation.

It sounds like maybe their attempt to squeeze info from Gordon has not worked out, but I'm just speculating.

Anonymous said...

3rd man charged!

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/12/14/3rd-man-charged-crime-spree-before-amanda-blackburn-killing/77283468/

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