Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Amanda Blackburn Murder & Pronouns Examined


Question for Analysis: 

Is it possible that the husband of murder victim Amanda Blackburn uses the pronoun "we" because he sees himself as connected to divinity?

Let's examine this. 

The more one speaks, the more sample we have for analysis, and the broader the reference point or "baseline" we have to work with. 

Pronouns are intuitive and are used to solve crimes.  How powerful are pronouns?

When someone goes from "I" to "we" without any contextual justification, it is due to guilt.  This is commonly found in case after case, from murder to theft, and is so common, in fact, that parents and teachers pick it up in children. 

It is done to either hide within a crowd, or spread out the guilt, psychologically, as it lessens the impact of guilt. This guilt is not always the 'conscience' or cognizance of having failed morally, but a negative reaction in some solely wishing not to be caught.  True sociopaths feel this stress or guilt, as it is commonly called, even if they care for no one other than their own selves. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, there is a list of coincidence which investigators say point to this murder being not random nor exclusively a home invasion.  Here is why:

Home invasions are for the purpose of quick profit.  

Investigators say most home invasions target the victim specifically for wealth, especially for cash, as in drug dealers.  Others will grab the most valuable easily carried and pawned items for quick sale.  The younger the invaders, the more unpredictable, including the penchant for violence. However, sexual homicide is not something expected to be seen.  

In this murder, a reporter disclosed "sexual assault" which was later on refuted.  

The removal of the victim's clothing is a sexual assault unless there is another explanation such as "staging", or corpse removal.  Since she was left still alive, corpse removal is not likely.  This leaves sexual assault or appearance (staging) of sexual assault and the journalist was correct, even if no forensic evidence is conclusive.  Was this an intended rape?  Did she fight off the rapist who then shot her?

Yet, even this is strange:  she was shot three times.  

The point of shooting her more than once was to kill her; as a single shot would likely end any fight or struggle, and speaks more to an execution.  

Police had video of the shooter or gang, outside the home, and knew, with "100% accuracy" that the husband, Davey Blackburn, was not the shooter. 

Video tape evidence at the gym showed him there during the time period of which the victim was likely shot.  This was something, while the shooter was not arrested, was stated with emphasis by police:  removing doubt that Blackburn was the shooter, but the investigation had to continue.  They needed to learn:

Why was Amanda Blackburn murdered?  

This would eventually answer more questions, including:  Is the husband responsible for the murder?

This is the question that has been debated greatly in newsgroups.  

Circumstantial:

1.  The husband was obsessed with work.
2.  The wife complained of his obsession with work.
3.  The husband said it was a bad marriage and gave specific sexual complaints against her. 
4.  The husband said the marriage got worse with pregnancy.
5.  Pregnancy demands interfere with work obsession. 
6.  The husband said he had sexual temptation at the gym. 
7.  The wife was shot while he was at the gym. 
8.  The husband brandished a gun at work 2 days prior. 
9.  The wife died from a gun. Criminal psychologists ask "Was this on his mind at the time?"
10. The husband spent one hour, each Tuesday, on the phone with the same person, the day Amanda was killed.  On this day, however, the bulk of the call was in the driveway:  he did not enter the home.  

The wife became pregnant, again, and now is removed from the equation. 

Linguistically, Blackburn uses the language of guilt.  

1.  Distance from the victim 
2.  Subtle disparagement of the victim 
3.  Distance language from family
4.  Distance language from impact 
5.  No linguistic fear of killer 
6.  Pronouns

Pronouns. 

In repeated statements and questions related to the murder of Amanda, Blackburn uses the pronoun "we", rather than "I", even when seated alone. 

When asked about what it felt like, "as a man of God" to be investigated, he said,

"For us, we have nothing to hide."

This begs the question, "who is 'us'?" and "who is 'we'?" by the news broadcaster.  

It was not asked. 

Recently, Blackburn spoke about a direct revelation he had from God.  The analysis of such is found here: Deception Indicated.

To indicate deception in this "revelation" the subject must know and show awareness that he intends to deceive people. 

He began with "I had a thought", which went to "God spoke to my heart", as if an impression, but once qualified, he then gave direct quotes.  This is to claim direct revelation from God, Himself, and then he used this "Divine Authority" or marching orders to not only declare a vision, but to insult an entire church in front of its pastor, his father-in-law:  the victim's father. 

This is to show himself "above", both in authority and in 'relation to God', to the man who may suspect him in dispatching his daughter.  By using the 2 qualifiers, he did what deceptive people do, with rapid transmission:  gave himself an out. 

This is a signal that he is well rehearsed in deception and may be a pathological liar. 

Note the import of the lie:  it made him and his company a historical figure of prominence. 

Now consider that in this short speech, the use of the pronoun "I" was used, and in it, God used his first name, which is given for emphasis.  

He then said that the murder victim died so the church could come to life.  It was a trade in which he used sensitive emphasis, or the need to persuade, that it is something he would not have done. 

Please note:  

To this, he was "alone" in his pronoun use. 

He, alone, spoke to God.
He, alone, will pastor the "army" that will go forth in historical manner. 

When he addresses Amanda's murder, he is "we" and he is "us", who has "nothing to hide."

When a 13 year old boy stands before his junior high school principal and says, "I have nothing to hide" it is a signal to see what's in his locker, on his person, etc.  The crude remark is, "he has a turd in his pocket" when he said that.  

It is a linguistic signal that the subject, at this moment, is thinking of things he does not want known and is concerned about them being found.  We note what topic (context) produces this response.  

When this arises with the plural pronoun, it indicates:

a.  That there is something, or some things, hidden, of which the subject does not want known
b.  That the subject is thinking of this hidden item in correlation with someone else; or
c.  That which is hidden produces guilt of which the guilt is mitigated by a crowd.  

Analysis Question:  Given the 'divine revelation' claim, is it possible that Blackburn sees himself as 'one' with God, or in some strange way, a 'trinity' of sorts, or even of such divine cooperation that he is so close that this would produce the pronoun "we" in his language?


Answer:  No.  This is not supported by the context. 

We look at what produces the pronoun "we" in his language, versus what produces the normal, "I" in his language and we find, consistently, a need to 'go plural' regarding the murder and its impact.  

It is alarming that he has now found a "justification" for the victim's death.  The "murder" (that which he called an 'event'  or 'situation' early on) was something that "baffled the family", but now, not only does he know "why" she died, but her death is 'good' for his career, something he has obsessed about repeatedly. 

Objection:  Maybe the hurt is so bad that he retreats to the plural?

Answer:   The truth is the opposite.  

The murder of a wife is 'up close' and 'personal' and as we are possessive creatures, even against all 'political correctness', husbands and wives claim personal ownership over each other.  The second most 'personal' death would be that of a biological child. 

In language, this is where we hear "I", most often, even when a spouse is seated with other family members.  

The other family members do not have the same close personal connection with the victim as the spouse.  

The same is seen in child deaths.  

In using emotional language in a you tube video, he expressed a stronger emotional pronoun about the failure to obtain numbers for his company, with this "disappointment" connected to reliably with the pronoun "I"; and in context, the negative comparison was with 'souls saved', which revealed priority and obsession. 

In the claim of having a conversation with God, he gives signals of deception which indicates that he knows this is not true, and needs not only to convince the audience, but will have a technical "out" upon being challenged.  "I said it was a 'thought'!"  This is commonly used in deceptive advertising today.  It is sometimes used conversationally in insults where the subject later says, "I was only kidding" having done the damage and communicated the message. 

That the murder victim lost her 'life so the church could live' is not simply of concern to orthodox Christianity which teaches that Christ died to give life, but to criminal investigators as to possible motive. 

Blackburn's use of pronouns, as well as his rapidity of transmission suggests a history of successful deception and may be a pathological liar. 

A motive for possible connection to the shooter, even through various layers and connections to criminal elements, that should be considered is the profit to be gained from her death. 

In his first statement, he used her death for advertising purposes and has consistently done so since.  

Criminal investigators look into any possible planning and preparation, even while looking at the profile of one:

a.  Does he have a history of lying?
b.  Does he have a history of narcissism?
c.  Is there a history of... and it goes on looking into all possibilities leading to,

"Can we locate a connection between the shooter, his gang and any adult, including the husband?" 

The final pronoun objection is this:

The pronoun use of "we" is delusional. 

This is not evidenced in the language.  The delusional will not use qualifiers such as "I had a thought" and "felt like...my heart..."  They do not show, in language, the need to deceive when speaking under clinical delusion.  

The delusional will speak of voices, directly and commands.  In the delusional, it is often difficult to pick up deception. "The angel Gabriel came to me today and said..." was told to me in an interview.  The subject was delusional but the sentence structure shows no intention of deception.  This is where lie detection picks up its signals:  intent to deceive.  

When we commonly speak of 'delusions of grandeur' it is not in the clinical sense of delusion.  It can be a young boy believing against evidence that he will be a professional sports star, or someone who simply has a confidence that he or she is born to greatness yet unfulfilled.  This expression is commonly used to describe extreme ego, but it is not to say that the person is delusional. 

This was seen in the Casey Anthony trial where the women interrupted it and was given a light sentence under the claim of "not knowing what she was doing" because she was off her medication.  

She knew how to get dressed, and knew which streets to navigate to get to the address of the court house.  She knew which courthouse room to enter.  She knew what time it started.  She knew the television cameras were on.  

It showed planning. 

In the murder of Amanda Blackburn, investigators explore any possible planning involved.  

The original question posed about the use of the plural pronoun having connection to 'divine' association is viewed in context which allows the subject to answer the question, himself, via his own language.  

In connection to having a personal conversation with God, he does not retreat to 'we', as he did in questions related to the victim's murder, or its impact upon him, or his son. 

Investigators should be very concerned about his public justification of Amanda's murder. 

While all things eventually come together to produce good is a long term act of faith, which cannot see what possible good can come of something like this, calling the faithful to trust, here we have something investigators must consider as motive: 

that Amanda died so his company would grow. 

Davey Blackburn has not been charged, nor implicated by police as having any connection to the murder of Amanda Blackburn.   Blackburn, himself, has not only advertised the murder for his own profit, but has made all of these statements available to the public for their opinion and judgement to be exercised.  

Although I do not know if he has any indirect association to the murder, I am alarmed by the coincidental nature of the case, the language of guilt, and the justification of her murder, under the veil of religious language.  

In my own work, I recognize that "for us, we have nothing to hide" is not simply the language of guilt, but of something hidden.  That which is hidden may not be association to Amanda's killers.

It is something, but I have yet to conclude what I think it is. 

I am bothered by the new 'motive' and justification for Amanda's death; not because of Christian blasphemy; from a deceptive one deception will come, but because it so quickly turns something so ugly into something 'positive.'

Far too little time has elapsed for such. 

The need to justify is sometimes found in the language of killers.  It is predominantly hidden, or subtle, but it is often there. The one exception I have learned from is Tammy Moorer:  she justified the killing of Heather Elvis openly.  This is the only example I have seen in which, prior to arrest, one has spoken thus.  

This is more the language of one convicted who has exhausted appeals and the truth comes out. 

Every other example I have studied and taught to investigators is subtle, teaching them to look for quiet, small words used to justify the homicide; especially domestic homicides. 

In shaken baby syndrome, the baby is blamed for not 'cooperating'; in child molestation the child 'flirted'; 
In teenagers killed or abused, 'hormones' are cited. 

When one dies, people, especially loved ones, speak only the positive, quickly forgetting the flaws. 

That Amanda was "not well read" (which justifies the humiliation she experienced on video) is a subtle insult of her intellect.  

That the husband is so driven as to even use 'sloganism' in her death is concerning.  

Cold case detectives have to have thick skin.  

By virtue of their work, they 'criticize' the failure of others.  


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Sus said...

Concerned,
I do not know his IQ and questioned it before here. I asked if anyone knew where he went to school. If he'd finished.

An anon said he was from Speedway. He didn't think he had graduated.

I cannot find out anything on Larry Taylor. He's a junior. There must be a Sr somewhere. He doesn't seem to have a social media presence. He shared a phone. He was sleeping on a pallet at someone else's home when arrested. Was he living on the streets?

Carnival Barker said...

@Sus,

I actually think the reason the other two didn't want to go back for Taylor is because he had already shot Amanda and they knew it. They were so reluctant that Bull had to get involved. That tells me they wanted no part in her murder.

I know the time that the neighbor estimating hearing the gunshots/scream was between the two ATMs, but the neighbor wasn't concerned enough to call the police, so I don't think the exact time would be imbedded in her memory if she didn't recognize that it was a such a serious situation.

I believe she had to have been shot AFTER 6:54 (the successful ATM transaction) because I don't believe he would have killed her before they confirmed that she had given the correct PIN since the first transaction failed.

Concerned said...

Sus at 1:16

Last post and I'm off to bed. Really.

If Larry was living on the streets at the mercy of all the evil out there, he might be very happy with a warm bed at the county/city jail.
2 or 3 meals and nobody (maybe) messing with him.
He might just ride this out 'til the trial.

I think they'll get enough on Davey without him though.

GeekRad said...

Concernd.., I was also eaten alive. in the Hailey Dunn case someone posted as me with hugely vile comments. Posted as me. The posters here called that BS because they knew I would never post ithat. The second time, LeAnne Bearden. I was very unpopular for not buying in to the husband killing her. Don't stop. The ones who criticized have skin in the game. Stay w SA ..geez! You contribute so much! We need you!

Anonymous said...

The sadest thing is ALL the "coincidences" could not have been escaping that precious woman.

KK

GeekRad said...

KK, so great! If you are now we know it. If you want to pick a fun name say formally kk.See, it works. Now we know ok and welcome you. Great!I look forward to your interest and insight.

Sus said...

Carnival Barker,
I'm pointing out the statement, "Alonzo Bull called..." No one called him. He called them. It shows he was involved. That he was directing the burglaries.

I don't think we can discount the given timeline. And the time that the neighbor heard shots. It may not make sense to our organized minds. We may think, but he didn't have the PIN numbers.

But it matches what the CI is saying. That Taylor threatened to shoot the woman if they didn't come back for him. It matches another witness saying they saw (Taylor?) on the street shortly after talking loudly on a cell phone. (Agitated?)

And it makes sense in regards to Taylor being so angry and so upset, he shot Amanda.

GeekRad said...

Concerned, I have been there as Local Anon in the Hailey Dunn case and very unpopular in the Leanne Bearden case. Don't let that stop you. We all n Totodig and ask. You are smart and insightful. You are a threat to the Davey world. When they troll it is b they fear your smarts.

Kate said...

Anon@12:14
"I think DB is a strange bird to us but not to all those that belong to his church and not to Amanda. She married him after all and was having another child with him. His behavior is not NEW. As you all have noted, he has been crazy well before the murder"
.......................................................................................

Right, the thing about the pregnancy is how much did Amanda want another baby? Was it planned? Did he "force" himself on her, because as he states, doesn't matter if she wants it or is in the mood, it's her duty. In the Q&A vid, Amanda looks very sad, very troubled and as though she had a lot on her mind. I really believe she was contemplating leaving Davey. He doesn't just hate her for the grill, or for letting Weston fall under her watch or for not giving him sex on demand. With my theory, he hated her because she wanted to leave him and that was what finally tipped him over the edge. JMO.

GeekRad said...

I hate this stupid smart device. I meant trolls. Arrrrgggh

Anonymous said...

I wrote the long post earlier about the CIs only seeing him as a viable person to implicate later in the investigation.

Also I do not believe it was him wearing Alonzo's jacket.There is absolutely no way Alonzo Bull would have loaned this kid his incredibly expensive Palle-Palle jacket that he's identified with in the hood.

These guys try to come off as somekind gangsta do gooders. You got the gangsta scout leader just making sure his little criminals are well dressed and warm and the other 2 criminals following this kid's lead and just trying to keep him from killing people. I don't buy any of it.

I do think the gf may gave a conscience because the Affidavit says that LT told JW,DG,AB and POSSIBLY blank that he killed her. I think the "possibly" is because she isn't willing to bear false witness.

KK

Not a Robot said...

Carnival Barker: the first transaction most likely failed because of the amount, not an incorrect PIN. Most ATMs have limits of $300-$400 per day. People can usually get more money from other machines the same day but not from the same machine. Unless their bank has a max ATM withdrawal limit. So I think they tried to withdraw too much, and they probably tried several times for the higher amounts and that's what triggered the fraud alert call that went to Amanda's voicemail. The machine probably stopped letting them make attempts so they had to go to another machine and try a smaller amount. I think they had the correct PIN from the start. Amanda was a smart woman, she knew it would be bad for her to lie when she's being held at gunpoint. I have no doubt she would have done ANYTHING to get them to go away.

Anonymous said...

Using the demise of the Caylee case to not seek justice in other cases is telling of the cowardice within the justice system. They didn't need to do an archaeological dig for her bones; it was absurd, arrogant and wasteful.They didn't need to put he grandparents on trial as it was obvious who was guilty. They didn't need to terrorize the neighborhood and lie about them enjoying living in chaos, gossip, property destruction. No matter how many times they repeated it, it was easy to see it wasn't true.The prosecutor was lacking sorely. He failed to prove she murdered her daughter. All the experts in the world couldn't get past the one major thing the sorry lawyer who lacked skills, but his compassion for the defendant was enough to carry the weight. He got good people to help.

I'd much rather have CA in society than the lot that jumped on the bandwagon. The death is sad. Death penalty was overboard for her age and mental capacity and the crime.

If the FBI has Dunns remains then why don't they release them to the family so they can bury her? If they aren't going to prosecute the boyfriend, why keep them unless they are hoping to dust them off later when they can capitalize off books, expert fees, etc. There's no good reason other than the county can't afford the circus or there's something else going on in the area that they'd prefer people not be in there combing over the area.Her family may not have been what TV experts would want them to be, but they are still her family and she deserves to be buried and not a specimen for training others that will never complete their job.

Anonymous said...

IMO, there is every possibility that LE isn't making any efforts to nail Davey in connection with Amanda's murder even though there are blatant signs that he IS their key culprit. It doesn't matter how many thugs are involved or to what degree, Davey HAD to have set this up.

The first obvious reason he is the key culprit is because he did not call for LE to come to the home immediately upon seeing Amanda lying on the floor in the throes of death, (no telling how long she'd been lying there), making it appear as an accident; seeing, and knowing that it couldn't have been an accident. HE KNEW.

Even if he didn't see (had to shut his eyes not to see) the gunshot wounds; one doesn't knock a tooth out by merely tripping over a ladder and knocking a plant over. If one is able bodied, one instinctively protects their face as they fall. Her mouth, arm, shoulder and head were covered in blood. But he called for EMTs to treat an 'accident'. He SAW her panties lying beside her and her shirt pushed up, he KNEW this does not happen by accident. In HER condition? THIS was part of the plan. Leave her exposed.

His ploy, get her (AND himself) out before cops are called. There is NO WAY he thought this was a burglary or a home invasion and wouldn't want LE there, knowing AND seeing Amanda's condition; best thing to do, side-step LE. He did. Cops are called by EMTs, they show up AFTER Amanda has been taken to ER, along with Davey. She is dying, there is no chance then to question her OR Davey. Evidence in the home and on Amanda's body is contaminated. Cops contaminate the home more. The list grows longer while they allow MORE evidence to be destroyed.

Davey has contacts in local LE and in the media. Davey has clout. His father-church-mentor and supporter is the well-known Mr. Big, preacher Nobel with his big money making machine church and his big legal team, AND a wide-range of media, all well known to local LE. NOT gonna go up against THAT bunch. Too bad about Amanda, but the best thing FOR THEM to do is announce Davey 100% in the clear. They announced 'you're not as smart as you think you are', meaning the thugs.

It doesn't matter what these thugs may have told them in lock-up, or who they may have implicated that leads back to Davey, LE doesn't have to divulge this info and doesn't intend too. These boys have met their water-loo. They won't even be able to hire good attys to defend them because they don't have any money. LE hasn't and won't release the 911 call unless someone takes action to force them too, if ever. It is THEMSELVES they don't want investigated for letting Davey Blackburn so obviously slip through their fingers.

I'd be surprised if anyone in LE is reading this blog site, or any of the family members on either side. Possibly preacher Nobel's source is reading it, but IMO preacher Nobel has every intention of dumping Davey and likely already has. Nobel dumped his money in a hole when he invested it in Davey and Indy, bad location, bad decision, all down the drain; but he does know when to pull the plug.

He has not taken Davey to raise and doesn't intend too. He is NOT going to pay legal fees for Davey. Davey is a blight on his good name. Churches don't give away money, they take in money. Davey is on his own. Any appearances Nobel is making now in Davey's behalf is just that; appearances that benefit HIM.

I hope Davey Blackburn winds up having to fork over every dime he has scammed, handing it all to lawyers in his defense at some point, but whose gonna prosecute him? I sure don't see it in the works. IMO, it is questionable that LE is quietly working in the background, keeping it close to the vest. Come'on now, how many times have we been fooled by this sort of thinking? ABB

Anonymous said...

Not A Robot @2:54 a.m., you are correct. ABB

Anonymous said...

Except for the possibility of one thing, Not A Robot: YOu are assuming Amanda was being held at gunpoint and was shot by one of the thugs, when she may have already been shot by Davey, and when it may have been Davey who gave the card and pin # to the thugs. (There are other possibilities here and not just the word of LE)... See?

According to Statement Analysis and many obvious signs of his participation, and with several outside detectives also analyzing this "what are the odds?" case; there IS the very high probability that Davey Blackburn IS involved in the horrible murder of his wife Amanda, and that her murder is not mere circumstantial appearances or happenstance as it was made to appear to be. ABB

BB said...

At least some of the time, DB uses "we" as MOST pastors or professors or "experts" do when lecturing or explaining a subject matter to a group. "We" = group he is addressing, which in his mi d often is "Christians." Not to say it doesn't suggest an easing of guilt by "hiding in a group," but professionally, it is probably his default teaching mode. I haven't analyses past sermons for this, so I could be flat out wrong. BUT It seems very natural for instructors or knowledge imparter a to speak this way, especially when dealing with a subject matter of such s highly emotional personal nature. we need to consider the peculiarities of his profession when judging his speech patterns. He IS a professional communicator. We must consider his context and audience. I write press releases differently than I write FB posts. That is admittedly a horrible sentence. You get my point. If we are going to get in his head, we need to get completely in his head...and not judge HIS head by the realities of OUR outlooks or intention. I don't think this SA being done here acknowledges or identifies intended audience as a factor. May have missed it though.

BB said...

Well put. A fixation for him! Guilty-seeming, too!

BB said...

Maybe SA just doesn't. Clearly, new to the whole thing as a specific field. Also,I'm in a hurry and on my phone so I apologize for the atrocious typos.

Lily said...

Hayley Christianson (sic). Her last name is actually Christiansen.

Lily said...

Hayley Christianson (sic). Her last name is actually Christiansen.

Anonymous said...

Alonzo Bull is not Considered light skinned,lol. Examples of black people with light skin would be Drake,Chris Brown,Blake Griffin,Vanessa Williams,Halley Berry,Lena Horne. Light skinned blacks are also referred to as "high yellow" or "red bones", looking at AB photo he is not light skinned at all. Treezy is closer to being light skinned than Alonzo. Alonzo could still be involved but there's no doubt about his skin tone which may be why he is still free.


Pioneer Bee

M said...

I brought this up before, but things get lost in all of the posts so I am going to throw it out there again.

Whatever he said to the 911 dispatcher did not trigger a police response. I know this to be true because my husband is a first responder with over 20 years of experience. I asked him how it works. Where he works, police are dispatched to every EMS call. Indy is probably too big for that to be feasible.

This is one of the things that I cannot rationalize when I try to eliminate guilt for DB. The only way I can get around it, is if we find out the dispatcher screwed up or the police were initially dispatched and just didn't get there first....which would be very unusual. Firemen have to get out of bed (at that time of the morning), walk to the bay, put their turnout gear on, get in the truck, open the garage door.......you get the idea. Policemen are already in their car with it running.

Anonymous said...

Who is Hayley Christiansen?

M said...

BB at 7:02 I've had that same thought. Although there are a lot of times he uses 'we' when 'I' would make more sense and sound normal.

Anonymous said...















BB, your post @7:02, in a sense you could be right, that is from your perspective and your own personal expertise; however, in another sense you are wrong. I too am a professional and considered an expert in my field among other professionals, including in certain civil court matters as an expert witness.

I have spoken many times before groups, both large and small, including as a guest speaker in student classes in my area of expertise, and I have never used "we", it is always "I". There is no blind lead in. I am speaking for no one but myself in my own experience and knowledge.

My expertise is such that I have been invited to teach classes in client consultation, contract writing and negotiation, even creating a new class where I was in high demand with no one else qualified to teach it. I turned it down due to questioning that I would be able to pass the math exam that was required with a 98%, but also knowing that the math would never be used and which I never tried to pass, consequently I never seriously considered pursuing the offer.

The point IS, professionals (in my field) speak in the "I" when it does not include another individual; and when it does include another individual or group, they are clearly identified by name. There is never any doubt or mystery question as to who this "we" is that is being referred too. In other words, the buck stops here. ABB

Carnival Barker said...


@ Not a Robot

I completely agree that Amanda would not have given them the wrong PIN number, but the fraud alert was sent and they couldn't withdraw the $500 from the first ATM. If you plug in $500 and the ATM says that exceeds the limit, I don't know that that would necessarily trigger a fraud alert. Multiple failed attempts at putting in your PIN number would, though. The affidavit also says Taylor was on the phone with them talking about numbers, so there was some confusion as to what the PIN was between ATM 1 and ATM 2 that was finally cleared up by 6:54 a.m.

Thinking about it a little more now I would think they would have had to put the correct PIN in to even get to the prompt to ask how much they wanted to withdraw. It is confusing. Unless they started with maybe $1000 and ended at $500 whereby the ATM spit out the rejection receipt and told them to get lost.

Anonymous said...

Pioneer Bea, Bull has a far lighter complexion than either Taylor or Treezy.

Anonymous said...

Carnival Barker, I agree with Not a Robot. He is correct.

When a cap withdrawal amount is set by your bank for a maximum certain amount, it automatically rejects any amount over that fixed amount, no matter how many ATMs are tried or what amount over that amount is requested.

My bank has a cap on my ATM withdrawals at the maximum $400.00 limit. Once upon a time I could withdraw up to the amount I had on deposit within a certain minimum balance; then I had to have a cap set on it after I loaned by card to my son to help defray expenses on a business trip just in case he fell short, but he went off on a gambling jaunt while he was on the job in Las Vegas, hitting my debit card time after time.

My branch manager knew me well and called to ask, 'are you in Las Vegas?' HA... my son was caught and right then she set the standard $400 cap on my debit card. My son called, asking 'what have you done to me?' My response, "shut you down." ABB

Anonymous said...

if davey is involved there is NO WAY the three thugs would have known about it. they would have only gang orders from above with no explanations and NO SURVIVAL in prison if they give up fellow gang members.

low level gang members going to prison will NOT give up other gang members. It is a death sentence.

When they keep their mouths shut they can be celebs in prison.

THERE IS NO WAY the thugs knew Davey no one deals with kids gangs use them for the bad stuff

Rella said...

Davey's tweet this morning.....

Immanuel . . . "God with us" . . . He is our ever-present help in times of trouble. Thankful for this reminder today.

Anonymous said...

WHAT hard work, Anon @ 8:47? You don't like my posts, for cryin' out loud, scroll down to the bottom and see the ABB and skip your tired little hard working hand on your mouse right over them! Comprende'? God knows, if this is hard work, I pity you if you ever have to make a living.

Sorry however, that my post skipped a little space at the top, it was a malfunction of my keyboard, no plot of my own to fray your jangled nerves and weary your little bitty mind. Go rest now and pull yourself together. Heaven forbid, you might actually have to use your mind for something worthwhile one of these days. ABB

Anonymous said...

New poster here. I've been following this story since day 1 and have been surprised at how quickly db was written off as a suspect. I get that with le we don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but I guess I expected more discernment from the media. Very glad to have come across this blog as it gives me hope that I'm not crazy in believing there is no way db was involved in this!

I saw this mentioned briefly before, but I think it's significant. As we all know, db has never once said he loved Amanda. He obviously knows that people find that suspicious and he seems to have no problem lying. When people put off by him not mentioning his unborn child, he added that in on his next statement. Why has he not said he loves ab? Only reason I can think of is that there is another woman and that saying he loves ab would set her off. Could be mg? Imo, if not for the unexpected negative attention he's been receiving (albeit only from a small minority of people), she'd already be back in indy under the ruse of helping to care for son. ---ASV

Anonymous said...

Davey should have thought about "God with us"; looking right at him, when he was tormenting Amanda with his evil harassing, blaming, insulting and publically humiliating her, PLUS forcing abusive 'butter' sex on her. God, what a sicko. She must have hated sex with him, I know I would have. Wifely duty my a'ss, he would have had to rape me, the low-life SOB; then he would have learned what real pain feels like.

But hey, wait a minute... Isn't Emanuel spelled Emanuel, NOT Immanuel? Where's all that 'book learning' he claimed Amanda didn't have but he does? ABB

Rella said...

It is spelled Immanuel.

lynda said...

CD inspirational tweets starting at 4:25 AM EST. Can't sleep Davey? Telltale Heart

daveyblackburn ‏@daveyblackburn 28m28 minutes ago
Immanuel . . . "God with us" . . . He is our ever-present help in times of trouble. Thankful for this reminder today.
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Yes DAvey, your wife being slaughtered in your home would qualify as "times of trouble.."

Anonymous said...

I wonder where Davey thought God was while Amanda was being murdered and left with her nakedness exposed, while he did not turn a hand to help her? Well, I can answer that: God was preparing to take her home and out of the reach of the devil in her life once and for all; and NOT to sit on the beach and drink pina' coladas. ANYODY whose ever read the Bible KNOWS this is not where God's children go at the time of their death. Obviously he hasn't read it, nor does he care too. ABB

Anonymous said...

Rella, my correct spell check shows it as spelled Emanuel. Maybe either way is correct? God knows, I'm not a know-it-all so it certainly could be. If so, my mistake. Thanks. ABB

Anonymous said...

Lynda, what in heck does Davey think he is doing? Conning everybody but himself? I would think it's about time he went to check on little Weston, change and feed him. Wouldn't you think? ABB

lynda said...

Very Interesting...FB post from Justice Seekers Amanda Blackburn

Cathy Harris I called the Indianapolis Police and spoke to an officer and told him that Tweezy is selling or trading a gun on facebook

The officer stated,

"Tweezy is a street name for a known gang banger. He is doing what?"

I restated what Tweezy is doing and then spelled the name Tweezy is using for this facebook account.

Officer states, "I gotta' see this, just a minute."
A few seconds later, Officer says "Wow! Okay, we'll get someone on this asap. Thanks for calling.

**************
Good for you Cathy!

Rella said...

Both spellings are correct. Immanuel is a Hebrew name (Immanu'el). Personally, if I had to choose which spelling to use, I'd use Immanuel.

Anonymous said...

Lynda 9:45, if that's a true story, that's depressing. makes me wonder if LE is doing anything at all on this case. they have to get tips like that, from regular people? if the story is true, that means there is no on-going investigation.

rosy said...

Spelling checkers show you Emanuel as a modern given name and surname name.

The bible shows you:
Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son ...
"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will
call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us"). ...
//biblehub.com/matthew/1-23.htm - 18k

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The ...
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive
and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. ...
//biblehub.com/isaiah/7-14.htm - 18k

Isaiah 8:8 and sweep on into Judah, swirling over it, passing ...
... Its outspread wings will cover the breadth of your land, Immanuel!" ... .

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 8:53 true but he still wouldn't be considered light skinned to many black people. He would be referred to as a "browned skinned" black person, the other two as dark skinned. I am a high yellow black person, my dna is 53 percent African and 46 percent European per ancestry. I am also a former 911 dispatcher in California and in Indianapolis and to describe AB has lightskinned would not help with apprehension

Pioneer Bee

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Anonymous said...

An example of Alonzo Bull's friends that would be considered lightskinned is Brett Carter on his FB friends list.

Pioneer Bee

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terrydeb said...

Ha! I happen to enjoy ABB's comments.

Anonymous said...

It's interesting to me that, on the one had DB seemed to change some of his language and demeanor after his first or second interviews, whether from reading SA, or from suggestions from friends and family. As mentioned, he STILL can't seem to bring himself to say that he loved Amanda, yet we know he's able to lie about other things. Perhaps he has his limits? Also, he's still saying that he's shepherding young Weston's heart....Goodness. As Peter has pointed out, that's distancing. This makes me wonder if, perhaps, he's not a troll on this site, and isn't even reading Peter's posts and comments? Or, it could be due to having no filters....

OT: ABB contributes a lot to the discussions, imo. When I disagree with ANY of the posts/posters, I take them with a grain of salt and move on.

-L

Sus said...

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/atf-raids-several-homes-in-indianapolis

Anyone checked if this is Twezey on the clip? I don't know what he looks like.

Cyndi said...

I happen to enjoy ABB's comments. She's very well-versed and well-spoken and contributes with a true zeal and passion!

Anonymous said...

Thank you Cyndi! Every now and then I need to hear a kind word or two. I don't get many of those anymore, not since I lost my precious son. To heck with his little gambling jaunt off to Las Vegas, damned near clearing out my bank account by the time I caught onto it; but he didn't know I wasn't staying on top of it either. He wasn't really a gambler, just started off with a run of good luck and thought he'd hit pay dirt. Thanks to my friend Marilyn at the bank who picked it up, wondering if I really had gone to Las Vegas. If she hadn't I could have wound up dead broke.

I miss him terribly and our life and home together more than there are words. He was a kind soul and a dear son, in spite of himself; he had so much more good in him than I could ever relate. BTW, he DID pay me back. There were very few times that he actually scre'ed me over, but then, he gave back much more than he ever took. Everywhere I look there is something he gave to me or something he did for me. A lot of parents can't say this. I would trade it all to have him back, just for one day.

Thank you again, sweetie. Your kindness means the world to me. ABB

Sus said...

Never mind. I had no idea Treezy and Tweezy were the same people till now. I just saw his other fb page. Wow. He sure plays it differently on that page. On his first page, the one his God-fearing, ever praying mama comments on, he's a little angel.

Anonymous said...

Pioneer Bee, the description LE gave of the person seen walking with the Pelle-Pelle jacket was medium to light skinned. This describes Bull, but not LT or Treezy. So this is definitely not the reason Bull is not in custody.

KK

Anonymous said...

I can't get my head around a lot of things when it comes to this case but a few things I keep thinking about this morning would be...IF Davey thought it was an accident and told the 911 operator that and they sent just EMS, first off why was she nude? & why wouldn't he cover her? Even if you knew it was a crime scene, most people would be tempted to cover their loved one or go ahead and do it even if it would tamper the crime scene. So he thought she fell, had an accident, was naked and she would be ok with staying naked while help arrived? ODD.

Anonymous said...

Maxie & Anon L, and another anon, thank you too for your kind words. They are much appreciated.

To anyone who thinks I just started posting here last week? I have been reading here and posting off and on for EIGHT years.... Duh. How little you know. Or that silly head who thinks I am half truth, or whatever you said. You would NOT make good candidates for statement analysis when you don't know the truth when you see it and can't even accurately second-guess truth. Ha. It's a mystery how you are able to chose the correct robo photos proving you are not a robot.

I really feel sorry for you, having to make it in this big bad world we live in. What a mess you are in, trying to think for yourself. God help you. I hope for your own sakes you have someone supporting and making decisions for you as you sure do need it. Oh well, back to the Blackburn issue. Poor Amanda, her life and murder and statement analysis is the issue, not me. ABB

Sus said...

Bull should be in custody on at least that he had knowledge of a crime, at the most, that was involved by directing the burglaries and accepting stolen goods.

The prob cause doc says "Alonzo Bull called Gordon..." to tell them to go back and pick up Taylor. Bull couldn't have just called without having knowledge of the burglaries in progress.

Bull is free because police are gathering evidence on him. Or Bull has turned states evidence, and not just in this murder case. They would want more from him. Bull is probably giving up names for all sorts of things.

Anonymous said...

On the other hand, maybe you would be the PERFECT candidates for statement analysis training; that is, if you have the capacity to learn. It's not all that hard to do if you actually try to aim in the right direction before you shoot yourself in the foot. Right? ABB

Concerned said...

Anon at 11:49
Not so much ODD as GUILTY!
I can't get past the fact that Davey sat there doing nothing and not covering her. I think he had checked on her, found she wasn't dead...all while talking to Kenneth Wagner. He went back to sit in the car and waited a bit. Maybe her breathing was so shallow when he came back in that he thought she was finally dead and called 911.

When the police questioned him at the hospital, he mentioned the Swisher Sweets package so, obviously, he had noticed it at the house. Yet seeing it didn't make him recall 911 and say someone had been in his house? And seeing the SS package didn't scare him that someone might still be in the house with his baby son? That would make anyone call back and ask for police, right?

Anonymous said...

There you go Anon @11:49! You have answered your own mystery. Davey gives himself away, we don't have to do it for him. "What are the odds?" is entirely correct. ABB

Sus said...

Concerned and anon,
That is one of the most telling parts.
The prob cause doc is very clear that whatever DB said in his 911 call did not cause the dispatcher to think assault and send police. He/she only sent medical personnel.

Those medical personnel sent for police within in minutes, recognizing it as an assault. The police then cleared the house looking for suspects.

DB was not frightened at all of someone who assaulted his wife being in the home. From what we know of the 911 call he didn't seem to know his wife was assaulted.

But that contradicts what he told police. He saw her unclothed in a pool of blood. He said her shirt was pulled up as if someone was trying to take it off of her. DB said her purse was spilled and credit cards on the floor. He saw the swisher sweets. Any one would take this in and recognize it as assault and state it as such in their 911 call.

Why didn't DB?

Anonymous said...

If you've ever witnessed or experienced trauma or a traumatic event you'd know that fear for oneself isn't always the first reaction.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 1235

Fear for oneself might not be my first reaction but if I came home to find my wife naked and in a pool of blood, an accident would definitely NOT be my first thought.

Anonymous said...

It would be if you paraded around in fatigues and waved an airsoft gun like you lived in lala land.

Anonymous said...

Someone last week posted the "cleanup crew" theory and I think its the most plausible.

Amy Smith said...

Blackburn urged them to use his wife's death to get more people to come to church.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-davey-blackburn-taking-time-to-get-healthy-asks-church-not-to-let-wifes-death-go-to-waste-152210/#dzZOOGUsoieULZ8U.99

Anonymous said...

ABB-
What is your profession,if you don't mind? Thank you

Concerned said...

Anon at 12:35 said
"If you've ever witnessed or experienced trauma or a traumatic event you'd know that fear for oneself isn't always the first reaction."

Anon,
I have a child and I guarantee my first reaction would be fear for my child's safety and my bleeding spouse.
I would be screaming for police to come fast.
I am absolutely sure I would wrap a blanket, my jacket...something around my almost naked spouse.


Anon at 1:01
I'm convinced Davey shot her and had the robberies staged.

Anonymous said...

Let her continue to guess what your profession is, ABB. She wants to know this info for a nefarious purpose.

Anonymous said...

Life is too short to pick fights over nothing on an anonymous message board.
We are all here because a woman unexpectedly (except for Davey) lost her life a month ago.
Would you want your final minutes to be spent ragging on someone who may not even be emotionally well?
I bet not.

Anonymous said...

No, there are no nefarious purposes, only curiosity.

Kate said...

I didn't realize Ryan McConnell had done National news as well. He must have been one busy dude with all his appearances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuIq0x2j9a8

At the end of this short clip, they make sure to reference le is NOT suspecting any of the family.

ABB, I love your posts and hope you never stop posting!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, there are no nefarious purposes, only curiosity.

December 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM


This was not a reliable denial! HA!

Kate said...

Ryan states what an amazing person Amanda is and what a great fam they had, all the while shaking his head no.

Anonymous said...

HA! Moving on..

Bobcat said...

This is for Davey.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/1917976_1134792571431_6637856_n.jpg?oh=d036709260368c97f63acbb06368eccc&oe=5720CF5B

terrydeb said...

Keep up the good work guys. Your work might pay off!

Headline in the dailymail.uk...

"Mystery car crash victim known only as Grateful Doe because of two Grateful Dead ticket stubs in his pocket is finally identified after 20 years by amateur internet sleuths"

Rella said...

Bobcat, who is that in the picture?

Anonymous said...

I am going off of very little here, and cannot even share what that is, but I have reason to believe that friends and family are suspicious of DB. I don't know if that means LE is also suspicious or what.

Kate, I would love to hear more about the car. Could you please share more details?

If some random person was able to call LE about Tweezy or whatever his name is, why haven't any of us called to point out some of the "coincidences" with DB? Maybe we'd get a telling reaction on whether or not they are investigation him.

I'd been hesitant to fully believe DB only wanted a large church, but I recently watched the video of him canceling church. He basically said the main reason was because nobody new would be there because of the weather, so what's the point. Uh, the point is you still have members that need to hear the word. That was very concerning to me. His "don't let this go to waste" line also reminds me of Rahm Emanuel saying, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste." Rahm follows that statement with, "And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before." It's EXACTLY what he's doing now, based on the little sermon he gave at Amanda's dad's church. Hmmm??

Kate said...

Anon@3:52

I hesitate to post about Davey's new vehicle because another poster seemed to get upset when I mentioned it, even though I prefaced (at that point) that it wasn't solid info and I was waiting for confirmation. However, it has been confirmed and while I can't reveal the solid source, it will be confirmed soon by a local, I'm certain of that. Davey purchased a 2016 SUV from Hare Chevrolet for approximately $50,000 and paid in cash.

After watching and doing a little research on James Blackburn, Davey's dad, well let's just say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. jmo

M2 said...

Kate, I'm looking forward to your next youtube video! M2

Anonymous said...

Thanks Kate! No, don't reveal your source. And DB has just gotten crazier. What in the world is he thinking, buying something like that??

Statement Analysis Blog said...

And so I'm confident that within the next several weeks there's gonna be great opportunities for people to come to know Jesus, so I want you to invite your friends. I want you to invite your family.

"And I don't want this tragedy to be wasted. And so I want us to capitalize on seeing more and more people come to know Jesus as their personal savior," said Blackburn.


If he comes out of this without arrest, he is not unscathed.

"Capitalize"?
Really?

He has been seen as narcissistic, materialistic, and a lot other ugly stuff...


Peter

Bobcat said...

Rella

It's a relative of Davey's. I may be off track, so won't name names. However, the photo stuck out to me because he worked at a grocery store in his younger years.

Rella said...

Bobcat-
I'm not understanding.

Anonymous said...

Kate,

You should post the info about the car purchase on Justice Seekers - to see if any locals there could sniff out more info.

Jo

Bobcat said...

Rella,

It's for Davey. Something that might get under his skin, OR not. Please disregard the photo.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Amanda was smarter than Davey gave her credit for and left some "in case of my early death" letters or evidence for LE to find. She stayed alive long enough to mess up his plans. Good for her.

Anonymous said...

Kate - I've seen proof of the car purchase, too.

Anonymous said...

oops - anon at 4:57 should say "M"

Anonymous said...

Rella can you provide a link for picture please. Bobcat, are you referring to his sermon on the dented grill where he spoke about seeing the person who hurt you at the grocery store.



And I wasn't implying AB was still free because of his skin shade only that he isn't light skinned by any stretch of the imagination

Pioneer Bee

Anonymous said...

Anonymous
Anonymous@3:52 said...

"I am going off of very little here, and cannot even share what that is, but I have reason to believe that friends and family are suspicious of DB. I don't know if that means LE is also suspicious or what."
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Oh, I hope that's true! In Kari Baker's case it wasn't until her family pressed LE to re-open it - LE closed it as a suicide that very night. It took several years but through their pushing and LE actually working the case her husband, Pastor Matt, was arrested and convicted of her murder.

Rella said...

Pioneer Bee-
Bobcat posted it in the comments at 2:22.

Rella said...

Pioneer Bee-
Also, good observation about the grocery store, whether or not that's what Bobcat was saying! I couldn't figure out the grocery store reference he made.

Bobcat said...

Yes, it is regarding the dented grill and grocery store transcript. If I let my amateur mind go, the person that caused Davey pain may have been a relative that he saw at family grill-outs - which is why Davey's pristine grill that was under his own control was so important to him. His own grill that would not be associated with any pain ... until it was laying face down on the ground and damaged .... and brought back terrible memories for him.

Amy Smith said...

Ain't no party like a Resonate men's party
https://twitter.com/mwcfamilyaware/status/675407100785356802

Anonymous said...

As a 9 yo child, I came home from school and found my father-figure dead from a gunshot wound to his head. Police called a lady who lived nearby to try to comfort me.

I thought it happened because I "bad girl", I would blame myself and say (both outloud and to myself) "If only I didn't play with my friends and gone straight home, maybe he would still be alive."

After the original shock wore off I could not talk about it.

I acted out quite a bit as a teen. There were social workers who tried their best to get me open up about it as a teen, but I couldn't - I was outright angry at my father-figure, GOD and anyone who dared bring it up. I questioned myself AND God too many times to count. I attended a Christian Day School and a strict fundamentalist Christian University which is in the same circles as Pensacola Christian College where Amanda and her sister attended. Even today, I cannot talk about it without reliving what I saw, breaking up in tears. I assure you that I could never do an interview dry-eyed. Even after all of these years! As a matter of fact, I think it would show disrespect to the memory of my father figure to do such an interview.

Even the most devout question, grieve and have emotional and physical signals trauma. For example, My friends taught at the same Christian University I attended. 15-years-ago their baby daughter died. They have never gotten "over it." They still celebrate her birthday with cake and candles! They still grieve to this day and they are VERY devout. I say that to show that I GET these people's theology. I get the fact that they need to show "the world" that their faith makes it possible to overcome this tragedy. What I DO NOT GET is Davey.

It wasn't until I was well into my 30's before I could even tell my husband.

Davey Blackburn looks well-rested, well-groomed (like he just stepped out of a spa)...He doesn't blame himself for forgetting to lock the door, (My friend's husband who lost their daughter, stated he would have unconsolable guilt if he left, forgot to lock the front door, then came home and found his wife dead following a home invasion.) Davey has never said anything about questioning himself such as why her not him, what IF he hadn't spent an hour talking to his friend, would Amanda have survived? He doesn't ask God WHY? Hell even Job asked WHY? Davey does not act like someone who walked in and saw the aftermath or a gun-shot that his life-partner's head. Those scenes, I can tell you from eyewitness experience, are beyond words horrifying. That sight is something that is etched into the very very nooks of your brain. You never, ever, forget and it takes years, and proper professional help to get past it.

~C

M said...

C - Even John the Baptist had a moment of doubt...and the purpose of his life was to point to the coming Messiah.

He was sitting in prison and sent the disciples to find Jesus and ask him if he really was who he said he was.

Another emotion we are all looking for from DB is anger. It's not a sin to get angry either. Jesus got angry at unrighteousness. It's okay. Revenge belongs to the God, human justice is for government to mete out, but anger against sin isn't exclusive to some higher authority.

BB said...

I'm local. I'll see if I can find out anything.

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about BB?

BB said...

Car

Anonymous said...

Local as in Noblesville?

rosy said...

Treley Kidd's friend Kevin B, a friend Alonzo Duguoise Bull, asked

November 29 at 2:51pm

"I wonder if Amanda Blackburn and her husband were black would they story have been as big as it was? Smh the world we live in."

One of his Northside friends replied:
"I hope it would have been as big a deal but nowadays I don't know if it would be smh this world is so messed up if I ever do get the chance to talk to God I'm like WTF!?! Seems like it's way more bad than good out here"

Another one said:
"At the end of the day... this was a senseless killing. Taking someone elses sh*t. mfs. Need to stay in school.. and get a life..... im tired of sticking up for these low life LEECHES! !!! AND u for one should be tired too..."

Kate said...

Anonymous said...
Kate - I've seen proof of the car purchase, too. December 11, 2015 at 4:57 PM
................................................................................

Thanks Anon, I hope someone local can snap a pic too.

JBB said...

"This little bit of chaos. . ." DB

Makes me wonder what event DB would characterize as "tragedy" if murder is a "little bit of chaos." Why is he using the word "little?" He is minimizing his wife's MURDER, for sure. But, I wonder how this helps him? Does it distance him (if he is guilty) by referring to the murder as a "little" thing?

I could not watch the entire video. I read that it goes on for an hour. Even in the few minutes I watched, I noticed that words never stop coming. DB is full of stuff to say. I hope he says enough to arouse suspicion. I cannot begin to understand why he has not been brought in to do more "talking" to LE:-(

Lily said...

Someone up thread asked who Hayley Christiansen is. She is Larry Taylor's girlfriend. His phone number in the affadavit appears in her prostitution online ads and in their criminal records. It's how the police traced one of the phone numbers being called.

Amy Smith said...

@matt_mccutcheon: Support for Davey Blackburn pouring in from @Cubs as owners have invited Davey to a game next season with VIP treatment. #WTHR

JBB said...

Woops. No. Not "little" bit of chaos. I guess I am projecting my own perception of his words on DB now:-)
Sorry about that.

Still, A "bit" of chaos is not much--considering that chaos to which he refers was the brutal murder of his wife.

JBB said...

@ amy 7:49

Wow. DB must be ecstatic about this: he has to feel that god is really "showing favor" on him now.

Concerned said...

Amy Smith at 7:49 and JBB

Dear Cubs,
We are sorry to inform you that Davey is going away on a long trip due to a "little bit of chaos" in his life.
He'll be "doing life" in the big house.
Thanks anyway.

JBB said...

I just watched the entire video Christian Post posted. It is only 6 minutes. I read somewhere that DB went on for an hour. Is there more? is there another video? THX:-)

JBB said...

"I love you VERY, VERY, Very much"

3 "Verys" for his congregation. Not even ONE when talking about his wife, the mother of his child.

I hope this guy talks himself right into a confession......

Rabbit said...

Amy Smith said...
@matt_mccutcheon: Support for Davey Blackburn pouring in from @Cubs as owners have invited Davey to a game next season with VIP treatment. #WTHR

December 11, 2015 at 7:49 PM
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Amanda died so more people would join resonate church. No, wait - Amanda died for Indianapolis. No, that's not it either; Amanda died so Davey could get some VIP treatment from the Cubs.

Yeah, that's it... oh, and a new car too.

rosy said...

Anonymous Lily said...
at 7:31 PM
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Is Hayley in Twitter? I don't see her on FB under that name.

Sus said...

My Cubs?? Hmmmphh. Well, he's not welcome out in the bleachers with us bleacher bums!

Unknown said...

JBB, I posted on the Facebook page that the video is an hour ling. I should have been more specific, DB said goodbye for about 5 or 6 minutes then Levi came on.

Maggie said...

Rosy,
In the affidavit I read that her name was Hayley Andreason, not Christanson, as someone above said. I can't find Hayley Andreason on FB either though.

rosy said...

Maggie said...
December 11, 2015 at 9:13 PM

Thanks. Is there a link to the unredacted Affadivit? I can't find it via Google

Anonymous said...

Interesting writeup (and comments) I found linked from the CityData True Crime forum - by a former long-time evangelical church pastor who is now a humanist and an atheist.

http://brucegerencser.net/2015/12/pastor-davey-blackburn-dont-let-my-wifes-death-be-in-vain/

For what it's worth, I will post a link to the last page of the thread where I found the link on CityData. It's not a super-active thread but any type of comment and speculation is fair game and I've been watching /reading it since Amanda was murdered. The CityData True Crime forum is so totally UNLIKE Websleuths. Websleuths is a virtually useless forum in this case because we are not allowed to speak a word or exhibit a thought against "victims" (which Davey most certainly is not). . . . so hence making the Websleuths pages almost impossible to read .

Some of the posters on Websleuths certainly seem to feel that Davey is involved with this or maybe even pulled the trigger himself - especially in the earlier threads (this is thread #4 on the subject) - but even a small comment or idea that might be construed as pointing at him is immediately shut down or deleted. I am so grateful to Peter for allowing us to sort this out without putting a leash on us - and grateful to all of you who post on this forum for your insight and thoughts.

Here's hoping Indy LE is watching, reading and sorting things out as well.

Here is the link to the True Crime forum on CityData-
http://www.city-data.com/forum/true-crime/2480738-young-husband-finds-wife-shot-dead-11.html

flightfulbird

Maggie said...

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/291143533/Affidavit-of-Probable-Cause-in-Amanda-Blackburn-Case

Link to unredacted affidavit.

rosy said...

Maggie said...
at 9:29 PM
Thank you.

Lily said...

I am so sorry, that was me that posted above. I must have Christ on the brain lol. Her last name is misspelled in the affadavit thought. It ends in -sen, not -son. She was on fb under "Haydee Yvonne" but her page is now down. One of the pics on that fb page matched one from the prostitution ads.

Anonymous said...

@Amy Smith

from Canada


https://www.instagram.com/p/_JqsJwoEe8/?taken-by=mrsabarrett

Resonate Men's Christmas photo was taken at a pretty Christmas sweater party. At DB's house? Babysitter MG in attendance.

Lily said...

Here is her flipagram though:

https://flipagram.com/livingfornickking_x

M2 said...

Is this a 2015 photo? And which one is MG?
M2

Lily said...

She is, but her tweets are protected.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ladybam_otg

M2 said...

My question was referring to the Christmas sweater photo link @ 9:40.
M2

Anonymous said...

M2:

MG is front and center in this photo.

Canada

JBB said...

Anon 9:51
MG is front and center in this photo.

Uh, does she look pregnant?! Possibly just a large tummy? The one in the maroon top?




JBB said...

MG is the Blackburn babysitter, right?

Maggie said...

Lily,

Thanks for that info and the confirmation that Haydee is Hayley and Taylor's gf. I actually found her on FB based on a comment she made on Zay Bands FB post about Taylor's arrest and thought she might be the girlfriend. And yes, her page is down now but there wasn't much info there.

Anonymous said...

yes. MG was their live-in babysitter. She is an obese woman so I do not think the bump shows a pregnancy.


Canada

Anonymous said...

The reference to Ezekiel in the "God spoke to me in the shower" speech has got me wondering.

I wonder if CD referred to it in the hopes that people would join the dots for themselves and make a comparison between Amanda and Ezekiel's wife, and therein, find an explanation for CDs inability to grieve, without him having to point it out himself.

EZEKIEL 24:15 The word of the Lord came to me: 16 “Son of man, with one blow I am about to take away from you the delight of your eyes. Yet do not lament or weep or shed any tears. 17 Groan quietly; do not mourn for the dead.

I don't know. I might be reaching. Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

Are you vultures feeling proud that you harassed Amanda’s friend BRoach on twitter?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 10:06

Who? What happened?

Canada

Anonymous said...

Re: Anonymous at 10:06

That appears to be a red herring. I found nothing on twitter about a BRoach. It seems to be a attempt to distract from the focus of this pag: DB's statements and how they show deception on his part, his lack of grieving over the traumatic murder of his wife and his unborn child.

Canada

Kate said...

If Watson took the time to wrap the pink sweater around his face for the atm cameras, why would he just carelessly leave it in the car as evidence? There seems to be no consistency with these guys. If it turns out the gun found in the neighborhood is directly linked with Amanda's death, that would nail the case shut against the three. If you remove DB from the picture completely, I would say either these are some of the dumbest people who really do need to be in a mental facility or the plan was laid out in great detail to leave that much evidence behind, appearing borderline deliberate and if so, why?

rosy said...

Anonymous Lily said...
December 11, 2015 at 9:42 PM
and
at 9:45 PM

Thank you. So messed up. So young. So sad.

Anonymous said...

(Photo of congregation last week @ Resonate church)
mrsabarrettSeriously great day @resonateindy! I really really really love my church! #
#nothingiswasted
https://www.instagram.com/p/-rmNbQIEYS/

Boston Lady said...

I'm watching Dateline and the case is a great study for Statement Analysis. The wife killed her husband with antifreeze. Found guilty with a judge rather than jury. The key items I picked up on were: The 911 call. She called and her first words were "I'm calling to report a man down". A man down? her husband?? Right then, flags ! I don't remember every word but it was a very cold, detached call. Next it was her mother who found the husband, naked and disoriented. It seems that the wife told her mother that she had been trying to reach her husband and he wasn't answering the phone and asked if the mother could go over. So transparent ! She didn't want to be the one to find her husband. The wife then failed the lie detector. And lastly, after she was pronounced guilty, the judge asked if she wanted to say anything. She said "Your honor I did nothing to HURT my husband" "I WOULD never do anything to harm him". Even then, she was unable to say "I did not kill him" I have learned here, on Peter's blog, some of those key phrases, words to look for and flag. Thank you Peter !! and a Thank You to Heather too. I miss both you and Peter on the Sunday blog talk radio !

Anonymous said...

Photo of Resonate church congregation from 3 weeks ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/-HCgfKIEQ_/

Juliet said...

Anon @'10.02pm

I agree - also these verses following:



18 So I spoke to the people in the morning, and in the evening my wife died. The next morning I did as I had been commanded.

19 Then the people asked me, “Won’t you tell us what these things have to do with us? Why are you acting like this?”

20. So I said to them "The word of the Lord came to me: Say to the people of Israel, 'This is what the sovereign Lord says'.....

----
The people want to know of Ezekiel, 'Why are you acting like this?' - why he is not behaving as they would expect at the sudden death of his wife - they want to know why he is not grieving. He tells them that the word of the Lord came to him, and that the Sovereign Lord told him that they, like him, are not to grieve either.

Well, that's handy. Prophet Davey, the new Ezekiel.

--

I find the beautiful, 'Turn your eyes upon Jesus' (chorus to a hymn) to have been spoiled since Davey's weird rendition of it during his 'Worship as a Weapon' sermon (he sang it before he began 'shooting') and it also 'coincidentally' appearing as Amanda's (last?) journal entry. Too many coincidences - altogether it seems more like a movie plot.

rosy said...

Anonymous Kate said...

I would say either these are some of the dumbest people who really do need to be in a mental facility or .....
December 11, 2015 at 10:57 PM

Some of them are dumb. Diano Gordon for one.

Read how Diano "DLoc" Gordon was jailed around 2011. He was let out on parole under house arrest. August 17 2011 his cousin Treley Kidd posted a photo of Gordon with a gun in his waistband "Aw yea thats my blood cousin bro.. He just beat his case, they finna let him out on the 2nd."

"On December 28, 2011, at approximately 12:00 p.m., Jodi Pearce (“Pearce”) heard
a loud banging sound coming from an adjacent home owned by Brandon Switzer (“Switzer”). When Pearce looked out her window towards Switzer’s home, she saw two men hiding around the corner at the back of Switzer’s home. The men then returned to the back door of Switzer’s home and began kicking the door."

So this is how these young guys do their "professional" burglaries. At noon, by kicking in a door. A woman neighbor called 911. As they walked away she got a good look at their faces. She ran outside and shouted "I saw you." Git in her car and followed them down the street. They were caught.

"At the time, Gordon had an electronic monitoring bracelet on his ankle as a condition of home detention." A charge of felony escape was added. In 2013 Gordon appealed the additional sentence on grounds of "lenity," and was refused:
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/01241304pdm.pdf

rosy said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
yes. MG was their live-in babysitter. She is an obese woman so I do not think the bump shows a pregnancy.
Canada
December 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM

=======
She doesn't look fat hn the face here:
https://www.instagram.com/megsgriff/

Anonymous said...

@anonymous 11:15

Isn't Amanda in this picture? Could this have been a picture from Thanksgiving 2014?

rosy said...

But nor does she look pregnant.

Bobcat said...

@ anon 11:15

Speaking from my experience of many family Thanksgivings and many large group prayers...

I have Never seen a group pray like that (Phil is talking) and NOT be holding hands, or making some kind of "praying" hands. Not one of them (except for Gavin holding Weston) has their hands together. Arms crossed, hands in pockets? What a detached group!

Bobcat said...

Rosy

I also think Meg looks pregnant in the recent photo. But a lot of shirts are worn like baggy tunics these days.

Anonymous said...

@Bobcat

Is that not Amanda in the picture, though? I agree with you about the disconnect, but do you think this picture is from Thanksgiving 2015?

Anonymous said...

@Bobcat
Sorry, 2014?

Bobcat said...

It's probably her sister Amber or even their mother - they all had the same hair! Gavin is holding Weston.

Anonymous said...

What am I missing when spouses of murder victims make huge purchases right away or cleari out the deceased belongings or pack right up and movie. Wouldn't you want to lay low to not appear guilty of anything??? BC

Anonymous said...

@Bobcat

That's freaky (the hair thing)

Kate said...

Rosy, I guess so. I know they're dumb, but most have street smarts. i guess in this case, it doesn't apply.

Anonymous said...

The Thanksgiving photo was posted on Instagram by Amanda's friend Ashley B., 2 weeks ago.
It appears that Ashley is also pictured standing beside babysitter (Meg) at the Resonate Christmas party photo posted earlier this evening.

https://www.instagram.com/mrsabarrett/

rosy said...

That's not Amanda, that's her mother (blonde, head bowed). It was taken this Thanksgiving.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 10:06
Her first name is Becky. She hid her twitter account tonight because of the vultures.

Anonymous said...
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Concerned said...

For a guy so consumed with social media, Davey Blackburn has remarkably few comments of support on Facebook and Twitter. I don't know what he gets privately but people don't seem to want to publicly identify themselves with him, even Amanda's family.
And his own family? Zip! Nada!
I'm not surprised.

BB said...

Who cares if they aren't holding hands in prayer. My big, extended fam doesn't hold hands or anything at pre-meal prayers. Bowing your head is customary... Particularly when a large group of peeps are spread into three rooms. There is enough that is troubling about Amanda's death. No need to go reaching like that.

Kate said...

JusticeSeekers has a new post up. Seems Ryan McConnell was the one to contact the Cubs and score the vip tickets. https://www.facebook.com/Jutice4AmandaBlackburn/?ref=notif&notif_t=notify_me_page

This neighborhood is very tight.

Anonymous said...

Just had a 2 am scare of our alarm going off. i hid in the closet until my husband gave the all clear. Our alarm company monitors sound over the panel when an alarm goes off so I talked to the dispatcher to give the all clear. Apparently the door to the garage wasn't latched good and it came open. Even though we have exterior overhead garage doors l usually always lock the interior garage door to the house just in case someone were to get in through the garage. Apparently I forgot to do that tonight! My house is usually kept locked all times. Even when I let out the dog in the yard. Needless to say my adrenaline was running so high when I was awoken to the sound of the alarm that my heart was racing and I was still shaking uncontrollably after canceling the alarm. I can't imagine the horror Amanda went through her last moments. BC

Anonymous said...

Few other things that stick out. If DB is such good pals with Ken W. Why isn't Ken on his Facebook....out of the 4 different people who stated they saw all this activity, why did no one call the police. What kind of pitiful neighborhood watch is that?
The first lady who was burglarized lived in an apt, left her door unlocked, she was awakened at 4 30 am but called an hour late to report it. I think I would have called immediately and would have kept my door locked.
Why do all the females married to these strange pastors all have the same hair style, look.
Why do the pastors all have body issues, weight lifting and metro sexual appearance..where is Weston...

Was it not obvious when the carpets were cleaned so quickly that something wasn't quite right....who releases a crime scene that fast...there is no way he can be 100 percent cleared. Only way of that is he is not the shooter but he is the mastermind. I noticed on his Facebook on some pics he stated how wonderful she was earlier in the relationship but once she was his wife and had a child something changed. He has the craziest eyes I have ever seen and the most pathetic and bizarre preaching style I have ever seen and I am from the south.
Was Amanda duct taped at any time...I saw nothing in the affidavit except criminal confinement and that made me curious if she was...also where do the earphones come in at that were found near her body...was she listening to music.......

DB spent more time on the phone chatting than he did working out that a.m. was he always so chatty....strange behavior from a male....when he had to put blocks on his computer due to open, what kind of pornography....PN also has an pornography addiction. Several of the pastors ping to me.....sorry I have a lot of questions but I think the truth is in the details and I think DB will eventually be found guilty of setting the wheel in motion to have her killed.

D.G.B.

Unknown said...

I read a few comments where people speculate that he might have a drug problem. He then mentions in his "farewell" speech that he needs to get healthy. I first could not understand what he meant by getting healthy, perhaps he might have a steriod problem, trying to build the ultimate muscles? It might also makes sense that he is so over sexed?

Anonymous said...

D.G.B., exactly! Davey was a worship leader at NewSpring's during the James Duncan pajama pages debacle which includes threats of violence/ sexual violence along with other harassment on and off line. I wonder if Davey,being a communication and media major in college had any involvement in that as well. Perry Noble may be distancing himself from Davey now because of possible foreknowledge of his plans.

OT. I would love to see this tragedy lead to increased scrutiny from federal authorities and some changes made in the for profit churches of all denominations. Not likely...

Pioneer Bee

Anonymous said...

Pioneer Bee I don't believe PN or any other pastor had foreknowledge of DB's plans if he is the one who orchestrated her murder. DB is trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes. BC

Anonymous said...

I find it more unusual that someone was taking a pic of everyone praying than them not holding hands! Time to instagram...I mean pray and give thanks to the Lord! #ThanksJesus #NothingIsWastedNotEvenAPhotoOpp

Carnival Barker said...

Kate said:

"Davey purchased a 2016 SUV from Hare Chevrolet for approximately $50,000 and paid in cash."

* * * * * * * * * * * *

#NothingisWasted, ESPECIALLY time cashing out that insurance policy #ChaChing

Hope's Food and Family said...

What confuses me the most, if NS/PN gave the start up/Seed Money, why did they not continue with the NSIndy theme? I mean, all of the other "satellite churches" are NSRKH, NSClemson, NSGreer etc????

Anonymous said...

I have a very different take on the Thanksgiving photo. This is a family devastated by grief. That they are standing each alone does not surprise me. That shows me they are in great sorrow. That Mrs. Barrett, who strikes me as a warm and loving person, took a photo does not bother me. My hunch is she too was full of emotions and wanted to capture this moment of grief.

Canada

Anonymous said...

@Hope's Food and Family 8:56

Those churches you mention are all in South Carolina, which is a 10 plus hour drive from Indy. So I guess the "brandname" is not needed in Indiana. Just a thought.

Canada

Anonymous said...

Sloane Berry @6:05

Steroids can cause erectile dysfunction..Also here is part of a blurb on steroids from WebMD.

"Steroids Can Cause Extreme Mood Changes

Steroids can also mess with your head. Homicidal rage can come from how steroids act on the brain. That's right. Non-violent people have been known to commit murder under the influence of these synthetic hormones.

Your moods and emotions are balanced by the limbic system of your brain. Steroids act on the limbic system and may cause irritability and mild depression. Eventually, steroids can cause mania, delusions, and violent aggression or "roid rage." "

Canada

Hope's Food and Family said...

Thanks Canada. I just found it odd that the seed money came from NS, and there are so many NS "campus sites". Good point on the "brand name"

GeekRad said...

Sloane, I think steroids could be part of the equation.

Anonymous said...

Someone posted a comment about how Amanda couldn't have been that unhappy and must not have minded his "craziness" because she was having another baby with him. Don't you think she could have been having that baby for a number of reasons? She obviously loved being a mom and with DB always working or working out, she wanted another baby around. Maybe DB liked the idea of a bigger family, although most likely not helping much to raise a bigger family, but he wanted Amanda to be in just that mother role. It seems that it was just her and Weston a lot of the time so maybe another baby would satisfy her loneliness with DB so busy with work. A new baby doesn't mean that she was completely in love and happy with DB. Although looking at her instagram account, she sure painted a pretty picture. A picture that DB goes and ruins.

Unknown said...

In the original article Peter asked:

Is it possible that the husband of murder victim Amanda Blackburn uses the pronoun "we" because he sees himself as connected to divinity?

I don’t think so. I think it’s a disconnect. Here’s why:

Davey consistently drops his pronouns when he references his own relationship with God, or escapes to “we”.
---------
This from Sus and an anon poster:

Words from DB in an Insider Fox interview.
"...man, do I really believe this stuff? And um, and I can honestly say through all of this WE do."

Note he calls it stuff. Note the ands and ums, and honestly, which indicates he hasn't always been honest. Then he can't say "I do." He says, We do.

"...and the peace that we feel is, it's testimony to um, um Jesus is real in OUR hearts. And I've looked at our family. I've looked at our friends and I'm like, I see peace and I see joy in THEIR hearts through all of this."
---------
and this from John McGowan:

When life is crumbling around us I'm so glad we have the rock of Jesus' Church to breath life back into us!

-------
and this from another anon reader:

2-weeks ago
mrsbarrett Spending this day, and the last couple of weeks, with this family is one that I will not soon forget, and that I'm forever thankful for. I've seen supernatural strength in a time of great weakness. I've seen overwhelming joy in a time of sometimes unbearable pain. I've seen unexplainable peace in a time of confusion and uncertainty. I've learned that Jesus is true to His word, that He remains close to the broken-hearted and that He saves those who are crushed in spirit. (Psalm 34:18) Being near to this faith-filled family has allowed me to see Jesus in a new and real way, that He really loves and cares deeply for His children.
I'm thankful more than ever for His peace, love, grace, and mercy. Can't imagine a life without Him.
Happy thanksgiving to all of my loved ones! Squeeze those who are closest to your heart and remember that every good and perfect gift comes from the Lord!


Is it possible that he is escaping to we because he feels a significant disconnect from God?

Concerned said...

Hope's at 1:30,
I wonder if PN chose to leave NewSpring out of the Indy plant name because of that nagging little worry about Davey's craziness.
If Resonate failed, his brand wouldn't suffer. If it succeeded, he could take credit.
I believe Davey chose Indy so he could show up Amanda's father near his turf.

Unknown said...

Sorry, I forgot to add this bit:

I think what he's hiding is an absolute disconnect from God. Particularly when I read the above example that said:

I've learned that Jesus is true to His word, that He remains close to the broken-hearted and that He saves those who are crushed in spirit. (Psalm 34:18) Being near to this faith-filled family has allowed me to see Jesus in a new and real way, that He really loves and cares deeply for His children.
I'm thankful more than ever for His peace, love, grace, and mercy. Can't imagine a life without Him.

If I were a minister and my wife were brutally murdered, I would experience major doubt and disconnect from God. DB isn't being honest about his feelings here...he has that disconnect but feels like he still has to get up and preach to the congregation. Because it's his job he has to preach a God positive message, even though he may not personally believe it at the moment.

Just my 2 cents :)

Bobcat said...

Jesus Wept.

Maggie said...

Just found another FB page for DB's ex friend Treezy and he is advertising the sale of some guns! Geez I hope LEs watching this guy.

cant lie to me said...

Even if the guns aren't linked to the Blackburn case, I am shocked how brazen these guys are on social media with their activities. I would image there would be a cop just keeping an eye on social media, but the info from this case makes me question it. There seems to be a lot of talk of guns, drugs, and violence in these Facebook accounts.
I don't have a Facebook account, but wouldn't it be against terms of use to use Facebook as platform to communicate the intention or brag about an act of crime?

Amy Smith said...

DB tweet this morning: Jesus is a master surgeon. Though it may be painful, trust His healing scalpel.

Anonymous said...

Brooke @11:13, I would question that he ever did have a 'connect with God'. IMO, if he ever did he wouldn't have treated Amanda in the humiliating and non compassionate way he did throughout their marriage, and even in death. But then, it's not up to me to judge the soul of another human being so I'll draw the line in saying he didn't. I just know that his words were not of God; they couldn't be.

It appears that he had more of a connect with satan than he ever did with God, which is obvious, whether he had anything to do with Amanda's murder or not. Satan may have deceived him into believing he had a relationship with God, just as he does many others; but just listening to his sermons and all the ugly, disparaging and insulting, hate filled comments he made about Amanda speaks loudly that his words were not from God. God is loving and compassionate. Davey wasn't and isn't.

Neither God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit treats people the way Davey Blackburn treated his wife, Amanda, neither during their marriage or afterwards. Satan even has Davey convinced that Amanda's death should be used for gain. God doesn't do this. Jesus has already paid the price for us; he bought us, this earth is His footstool.

Davey can fall back on all the scriptures and prophets taken from the Old Testament that he wants too in an effort to justify himself, but in doing this he is not following the teachings of Jesus. Prior to the dispensation of Christianity, for a period of about four hundred years, God had turned his back on humanity, repenting that he ever created man; they wandered around in spiritual darkness without communication from God. Man was evil, totally given over to their own desires and devices, they had not heeded His Word and refused to understand those teachings and scriptures He had laid out before them. God saw and had abandoned man.

But because He loved us so much and had such pity for us, He sent his divine and perfect son Jesus, the only sinless one; who willingly came to teach us the way, GOD'S way, and the only way; to pay the price for or sins, and to give his life's blood and die on the cross for us, which was the only way to lead us back to God. (This is not so simple to explain, however I'm trying to make it simple).

We are under the dispensation and the teachings and the path of Jesus, otherwise there is no way back to God. The Old Testament was appointed by God, and other scriptures are divinely inspired, but Davey Blackburn or anyone else who "uses" other scriptures to justify their lies and sin is of the devil. ABB

Anonymous said...

What if he never meant for her to die? What if he arranged for these boys to rape her or rough her up, but it didn't go as planned and the thug shot her and then had to kill her? Then the two, who were out picking up their payment at the ATM, didn't want to go back for him because he had botched up the rape and killed her instead.

Why would Davey want his wife raped or roughed up? This is total speculation of course, but he is failing in his church plant. He hasn't made a go of things and Noble is about to close the purse strings. Davey doesn't want to admit failure, so he concocts a plan to make Amanda demand they leave Indy. They could move away with the blessing and sympathy of their families(both blood and church families)and Davey could forever lament that they were just on the verge of an attendance explosion when this awful thing made Amanda not want to be there.

Even if he doesn't use it as a reason to move his family out of Indy, it certainly would buy him time...Noble would feel horrible that they live in this place, minister to this sinful city and this happens to his sweetheart, Amanda. It would show what Davey is up against in trying to build a church here. He couldn't pull his monetary support when she was just raped or beaten.

Again, this is total speculation, and probably not even close to correct...It doesn't explain Davey not being upset, because if you meant for you wife to get roughed up and instead found her dead, a normal person would be pretty freaked out...although he doesn't seem like a normal person.

This case just has so many things that raise my BS flag. I feel like there is something we are all missing, so I find myself coming up with all sorts of outlandish plots to try and figure out just what that is. LOL


Unknown said...

ABB,

I also wondered how far back the disconnect with God goes. I'll look it up if I have time, maybe some of the folks on here have wayback examples? I haven't looked at anything he's said before Amanda's murder yet, except for what's been brought up in the comments on some of the articles.

Anonymous said...

He vacuumed. He left.
The.title.for.me.

Anonymous said...

OMG Amy. This man is so demonically sick. He will say anything to distort scripture to make himself sound authentic. Jesus DOES heal. I've seen it with my own eyes, in my own home. I KNOW it to be true. It does not require laying on of hands either, or even going to church, or having someone else pray for you;

I question a lot of this 'laying on of hands' business; (how do WE know where their 'spirit' came from? We don't); knowing there is a deceitful satan sitting on the church pew, trying to deceive us all in every way. I think we need to be careful whose spell we fall under. I don't question the power of Jesus, but if all these healing preachers could heal people so easily, why aren't they strolling down the corridors of hospitals healing everyone along the way? One wonders.

This idiot twists words to makes it into something it is not, making himself sound like a lunatic. With the best yet to come, I guess next he'll be trying to set up a healing line in the name of Amanda. Nothing he does would surprise me. ABB

Statement Analysis Blog said...

Bobcat,

Take a look at the very first analysis of Davey Blackburn.

It is interesting to see it in context.

I analyze what I can and get so many requests that it is impossible to answer the FB messages or emails. A statement that is 1 and 1/2 pages takes, on average, almost 4 hours for a professional analysis (like for a business) and less for law enforcement interview preparation. I often get videos that are not even transcribed. A few volunteers have transcribed here and know that a 5 or 10 minute video is going to take more than an hour to transcribe. Then if the analysis is not what the person wanted to hear, the degradation begins...so it is a bit 'touchy' at times.

In this one, however, I knew the person requesting it. She is a Christian and deplored the idea that she had doubt towards a Christian pastor; it went against her own nature. All she knew was:

a. the news report of his wife's murder
b. his initial release for his church, made public online.

She was upset by it.

She had no knowledge of him, nor had seen the video. All that we know now, was unknown to her and unknown to me.

She asked if she was being judgmental but that the statement did not sit well with her.

It bothered me enough to take action and I decided to analyze it.

I, too, felt badly that this statement had indicators of guilt that I asked others, of whom I trust, including those with NO analysis knowledge. (I knew what analysts and L/E would say).

AFTER the analysis, I saw the first video and I no longer felt emotionally negative. The Q&A was, in deed, that bad.

Everything since then, including the "Amanda, my wife," and "I love Amanda" type of recent remarks only shows what 'corrected statements' look like.

Peter

Statement Analysis Blog said...

PS The point was that "Jesus wept..."

Peter

Bobcat said...

Yes Peter,

I reviewed the first analysis. It's dead on - Davey is not a grieving man.

Thank you for your expertise in SA, and for sharing your blog with the world.
It's comforting to see how SA often reinforces what many "sense" but can't explain.

Anonymous said...

Anon @12:48, there are a dozen theories that we can hatch that sound like reasonable possibilities, I've thought of a few myself; but I only have to go back to how Davey treated his 'sweetheart' wife Amanda all during their marriage, beginning with the week they got back from their honeymoon. Obviously a marriage he conned her into. FOR HIS OWN REASONS as he certainly did not love her.

One doesn't come back from their 'glorious' honeymoon, then the first week start shunning and ignoring his new bride, blaming it on work, and HER; and talking about how lousy she is in bed! EVERY man and woman knows that it's up to the husband to teach his new wife the art and beauty of love making. She was inexperienced sexually. This was HIS duty to lovingly teach her.

He was just HORRIBLE to this poor girl, in every way we know about; quietly she took it all in stride. I'm sure there's plenty more that we don't know about, that she kept quiet about, too embarrassed to tell anyone. She was literally alone.

She was a Godly woman, totally devoted to him, the home and the baby, even doing all she could to help them financially, so much so that she took every humiliation he slung at her. Raised to be a pastors good wife by a mother who was also a pastor's wife, she didn't know any other way nor would she have ever thought to go in any other way, she took it all in her good graces.

He destroyed her, in life and in death and is STILL chipping away at destroying her. Even seeing every signal that is obvious to us, I cannot see him in other way than involved in her murder. HOWEVER it came about, he despised her and he LET this beautiful woman lie there and die for his own wistful and evil gain! ABB

CJ said...

I would highly recommend the Netflix series Broadchurch (which has nothing to do with church) and/or River to anyone looking for an antidote to all the meglo maniacal megachurch rhetoric and "best is yet to come" sloganeering around the Blackburn case.

Both series focus on characters who are devastated by grief, along with a good dose of whodunnit crime procedural drama (who is lying? who is telling the truth?).

lynda said...

what I want to know is this...Once they get done robbing the first house, they load up their goodies in the car parked in the driveway and then stroll thru several front yards, walk right up to Daveys house and straight in the front door. (Change of MO, other homes were entered thru the back.) 10? minutes later, Taylor then came out of Amanda's house, strolled down several houses to where the stolen car was parked in the driveway of the home they burglarized, threw some bank cards at them and then strolled BACK over several front lawns to go back into Amanda's house thru the front. QUESTION: WHERE was Amanda during the time that Taylor left the house to walk down to the car and give them bank cards? Unconscious? Tied Up? Shot already? We have to assume one of these things as she didn't RUN when she was left alone in the house. Not to mention that these 3 guys are walking up and down the front sidewalks, boldly parked in the driveway of the house they robbed, stay there while the murderer walks back and forth, and nobody thought to call THE COPS??? Didn't they have a neighborhood watch? Even if they didnt..someone saw them and it should have been reported ASAP. Again...WHERE WAS AMANDA when everyone was out of house and before Taylor walked back over and reentered????

Anonymous said...

I also agree with how odd them going to the Blackburn's front door was. Were they just walking up to every house trying the front doors until they found on unlocked? That's pretty bold. Ironically they found one quickly.

Kate said...

Lynda, exactly. And why would Taylor just hang out and wait for his ride? Why didn't he leave on foot instead of taking the risk of the car pulling back into a cul de sac? They knew they had the time, someone had let them know Becker wasn't coming back until after 8:00 am.

In the probable cause doc, it states a neighbor saw a man walking around the neighborhood, suspiciously, so the neighbor drove back to his home. It stops there, what did the neighbor do? Did he watch the suspect(s) from there? Did he call 911? Why did so many neighbors see something and hear something, but wait to call le? The media has gone on and on about how tight this neighborhood is. Ryan McConnell leading the way as Captain of the watch. Why did they all wait to call 911?! Someone hears two shots and a woman scream, yet they don't call 911.

Anonymous said...

Lynda, IMO, Amanda was lying there on the floor unable to move or cry out by this time, otherwise she would have struggled out the front door, or getting up or crawling to get her phone or the house phone if they had one. We may never know exactly what went on in that house that morning; but like Concerned, I tend to believe that more than likely Davey had already shot Amanda in the head.

When HIS timeline is looked at, not that at the thugs, it makes perfect sense that he had already shot Amanda, or had done something to restrain her. He could have shot her earlier without neighbors hearing that first shot, before the thugs got there, and took his spent bullet with him. He didn't leave for the gym that morning until 6:11; forty minutes later than he usually left.

He also likely wasn't at the gym the entire time he said he was, cameras or no; he could have left via a different door, returning by the same door then leaving again via exiting the cc door that he entered when he first arrived; NOT when it takes 20 minutes to drive to the gym from his home.

That would mean he didn't arrive at the gym when he said he did, arriving there at not less than 6:40(+); working out for an HOUR; THEN his cell convo with his good old bud Kenny from 7:30 til 8:30, during which time he was first working at the gym for an hour; second, driving back home for 20 mins; third sitting in his driveway on the phone for an hour. Go figure. It does NOT add up. There is a small window of missing time here. Just enough to hang him. ABB

Anonymous said...

Thank you CJ. I might try to watch that on Netflix later. TKX, ABB

lynda said...

Master surgeon? Scalpel? That gave me an image of Jesus hacking and slicing his way thru someone to "heal" them. Can Davey NOT say something that doesn't touch on violence? Now he uses the image of Christ with a scalpel? When your wife has been slaughtered? Davey SHUT UP! SHUT UP NOW! Not tomorrow, not next week, NOW..RIGHT NOW

Anonymous said...

Kate, that is absolutely the craziest thing; that no one called LE after someone seeing all they did and someone hearing the shots and a woman screaming!! WTH kind of neighbors are those anyhow!!!? Yet they all claim to be so close knit! AND with this wonderful neighborhood watchman!

I'd guaranDAMNtee you Amanda wouldn't think they were all that close knit right now, when none came to her rescue. Not a soul. HOW in hell can they justify themselves??! I'd be ashamed to show my face.

Now this fool neighborhood watchman has lined up guest VIP tickets for Davey to attend a CUBs game; WHERE he's sure to gather up more big bucks off non suspecting people who haven't had sense enough to check him out, bringing in the sheeves. Did you ever! ABB

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