Monday, December 24, 2012

Profiling Using Statement Analysis

DNA profiling
Profiling has been given a bad name in some circles yet it is something that most all of us do, whether we are aware of it or not.   For example, while speaking with someone on the phone, we are gathering information that will lead us to consider whether the person is intelligent or not.  In a limited sense, we are profiling. 

Profiling via Statement Analysis can be incredibly accurate when the principles are followed.  Yet, there is still an element of guess work, particularly about a subject's age, and education level.  There are always those who are immature, for example, or who are highly intelligent, yet without a college degree.  

Does the person speak like a male or a female? 

But in the bigger picture, our words reveal us.  This subject gave us a great deal of information.  

                     Can you find who this person is?

Here, the subject gives us a great deal of highly personal information that may shock some.  

The following is a statement written at the request:  "Write out what you did today, from the time you woke up, until the time you went to bed." This is best done when the subject (or you, yourself) chooses a day in which they were off from work, and did not travel.  Most choose a Saturday or a Sunday.  Here, the subject chose a work day. 

The written statement is verbalized reality that is written, or typed, and as such, it reveals us. 

"From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks" remains in effect.  

Going line by line, please tell me as much as you can about the subject.  Do not be afraid to speculate.  If you have gone through this sample in training, please do not post what you know about the subject. 

Begin looking at the basics first, and then move on to the complex.  

A.    Male or female?
B.   Approximate age
C.   Marital status
D.  Work status
E.   Approximate intellect 
F.   Intelligence or educational level

After these, then move on to the personal information revealed within the wording.  

How much do you know about the subject?  

I will later post in the comments section what it is that the subject has revealed to us.  

Good luck!
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I woke up late Friday morning 6ish because my alarm didn’t go off.  I brushed my teeth
made our bed, got Bobby changed. He was very cuddly and clung to me
for a long time.  I washed him up. Afterwards I was going to take him to daycare. Our baby is watched there really well; everyone loves him so much. I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off but had to wait there a long time. The pharmacy was slow. I left the pharmacy
and went to the daycare.   day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to
I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend. He told me that he wasn’t feeling well  I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now.
Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone.
Daycare said he was throwing up. Supervisor tee’d big time.
I got home and Bobby was better.  My fiancé was laying on the couch and said that maybe the baby caught it from him. Did typing from home. Sup called again.
I made dinner. Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down. I held him watching TV.
He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down.
We went to bed finally
Turned out the lights and went to sleep.

72 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is there a part of a sentence missing? It starts to say there were not many kids at the daycare and doesn't finish the thought.

Anonymous said...

-Female
-Early 20s
-Single
-Average Intel
-Trade school or online education for social work degree

Blames the alarm for not getting up and the slow pharmacy indicates victim mentality.

Why did she go back home after dropping off at daycare to confront the fiance, excuse me the "finance?"

I "was going to" take Bobby to daycare is a weird way to phrase that. Why not just say, "then I took him."

Looks like there is conflict between the parents and lack of interest on the part of the father in fulfilling tasks.

Some clingyness issues with the baby going on there as well and the mother feeling guilty for some reason.

Missy said...

A Female
Mid to late 20's
Engaged (calls Fiance "he", but does not use name, bad relationship?) (Baby might not be his, she calls the baby "our", something seen in divorce or step parenting.)
Employed, part time shift work.
Average Intelligence
Trained semi professional position, but limited or no college education.

Bothersome references about Bobby -"He was very cuddly and clung to me
for a long time." (why?) "I washed him up." (why, he just woke up) "I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off but had to wait there a long time." (Why did she have to go with the baby, did he need medication before being dropped off?) "Daycare said he was throwing up" "Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down." (babies squirm, why was he so quiet? Is he only cute when he doesn't make a fuss?) "He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down" (Was he drugged or lethargic?)

Did something bad happen to Bobby overnight or in the morning that caused him to cling to mommy and need to be washed up?

Notes washing of the baby, and of brushing her teeth. Abuse in the house? She "told" the fiance he had to pick up Bobby, and he "told" her he was sick. Strong language indicates strain. Lots of dropped pronouns regarding her work. "Supervisor tee’d big time." (for just one time having to leave early?) Trouble at her job and probably not a reliable worker. Drugs and abuse in the house?

Anonymous said...

"I woke up late Friday morning 6ish because my alarm didn’t go off. "
*because...etc- blaming the alarm clock. Who sets the alarm clock? She does. He does?
" I -brushed my teeth -made our bed, -got Bobby changed. "
*Yep, we all do these things. She is accounting for time, spinning a yarn, telling us her "story".
"He was very cuddly and clung to me."
*of course he was, all babies are cuddly.
"for a long time. I washed him up."
*Very concerning. A long time. Saying how sorry she was? Did he throw up? What did she DO to him? She had to clean him up. She was GOING to take him to daycare.
*She went to the pharmacy instead. To drug the baby? It took a long time. She couldnt decide what to dose him with or how much.
" I left the pharmacy and went to the daycare."
*Yeah, we know. Sensitive much?
-Christy.

Anonymous said...

I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend. He told me that he wasn’t feeling well I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now.
*She explained what she had done and/ or that Bobby wasn't well and fiance was not going to cooperate, he wasn't having any of it.
"Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone.Daycare said he was throwing up. Supervisor tee’d big time."
*Maybe a little work done. Probably lots of worrying, phonecalls and web searches.
"I got home and Bobby was better."
*This probably means unconscious.
"Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down. I held him watching TV.He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down"
I think he died at this time due to either what she'd done to him, any meds she gave, or both. How sad. :(
-Christy

Hobnob said...

Female, late teens to early 20's, cohabiting with abusive lazy male, some college education, average smart intellectually, immature emotionally. not ready for the responsibilty of child rearing

I woke up and made OUR bed, no mention of anyone else in the bed awake or waking up with her.
She says OUR whisch is shared ownership rather than MY

She explains why something happened (she didn't wake up on time) rather than what happened.

Introduces brushing of teeth which indicates tension and likely domestic violence in the house.

Dropped pronouns in regard to making the bed and changing Bobby (Improper social introduction)
order is important she says she changed him then explains how he was cuddly and clingy ( what was the difference did he cry?) then the pronoun arrives with I washed him up.
Changing time was a period of stress and tension.

Temporal lacuna.

Afterwards, after what?

No mention is made of giving him breakfast or dressing him.

She was going to take him to daycare, not she did take him to day care.

OUR baby indicates sharing, it also indicates distancing.
She has alrady introduced him as Bobby albeit incomplete, yet now she refers to him as OUR BABY.
What has happened to cause the change in language?
She trusts the daycare, i think because she knows he is safe there.
She weakens the statement "everyone loves him so much" with the qualifiers "so much"

Tension is ramped up by the fact she woke up late and the pharmacy was slow.

No article for the daycare, it is simple day care not THE.

Another temporal lacuna, what happened between arriving at the day care and getting back home.
She tells us it is empty does this mean no children or adults?
Why empty and not quiet?
note the change in language back to Bobby)
Told her finance? is this a typo or is this what she wrote or said?
if it is what she said then money was on her mind.
Also note no proper social introduction he is just my fiance indication of a poor relationship.

She tells us why she asked him to pick bobby up.
She doesn't have time due to work commitments, this leads to the conclusion he doesn't have such work commitments (deadbeat dad?)
She introduces covering a part-time shft on th weekend.
Does this mean she will be working over the weekend of doing the work on the friday that should have been done on the weekend. ( I was ask more about the shift and the new case)
Told is stronger than asked again introducing tension.
he told her he wasn't well, she told him he had and couldn't deal with it now.
It sounds like they rowed and she stormed out.

No pronouns in regard to being at work and only 9 words used to describe her work day.
If she can't take ownership we can't do it for her.
161 words used to describe her day up to getting to work and 92 after she left work.
By form alone there is deception.
Why the rush to get through her day at work?
What happened at work?

She tells us daycare said he was throwing up, dropped pronoun in regard to the supervisor.

Temporal lacuana
She doesn't tell us she went to daycare, talked to anyone and collected Bobby before getting home.
Why?
By this time i can feel her anger.

How was Bobby better?
had he stopped throwing up, had he gone quiet?
Sick children are noisy.

Hobnob said...

Still no proper introduction she still introduces him as my fiance.

Note the change of language he is now back to being the baby and not Bobby.
Is the fiance the biodad?
Any mention of body position indicates tension.
There is mention of what the baby might have caught from him.

Dropped pronouns in regard to typing from home and the supervisor called again.
Again?
Had she called previously for there to be an AGAIN?
Notice also the reduction from supervisor to sup.
How are things are work? can she cope?
Is she struggling?
I would ask about her work and her her workmates, how she gets on with them, any problems.

I made dinner, no contribution from the fiance, my guess is he is unemployed/unemployable.
I would ask about any criminal history.

She now changes language back to Bobby, what prompts the change in language? him being unbelievable cute and not trying to get down.
No mention is made of his age so i would assume toddler.
She is struggling as a parent and may reel some resentment against the child, possibly to rough handling or shouting when he is cranky or demanding.

WE went to bed but dropped pronoun as to turning out the lights.
When lights (turning on or off is introduced it is an indication of possible sexual abuse since one generally turns the light off to go to sleep.)
Dropped pronoun in regard to went to sleep, if she can't take ownership we can't do it for her.

From this i will say the relationship is poor and the child is a victim of possible neglect, physical or sexual abuse.

No mention is made of feeding Bobby that day.
I would ask what happened the day before and what happened the day after.
Something happened that day i would think Bobby died and she blamed the bug on him being sick.
I wonder if he had internal injuries?

Hobnob said...

I wish all of you a very happy Christmas and a wonderful new year.
May you have health, wealth and happiness and avoid any apocalypses which have been ordered by accident over the internet after one brandy mince pie too many (oh wait that's just me)

Let us hope and work for justice for all.

drdebo said...

I'm really lame- can't really tell much- the washing and brushing and lights is assoc with sexual abuse-the incompltet sentence is missing info, telling her boyfriend what to do-, prior absenses with bitchy supervisor, grammer- lack education.
If she was suppost to write everything she did- must have left a lot out.........can't wait to see correct interpretation!

Hobnob said...

Hi Dr Debo, Merry Christmas.

Practice makes perfect, everyone has to start at the beginning even Peter and Heather.

Sometimes it is obvious, other times we have to look a bit harder and on occasion we have to have a real rummage to see not only what was said when also what wasn't said and when.


Each day listen to those around you (not friends and family if you want to keep them unless it is a huge corker of a fib and must be commented on)

Listen to the news or browse the media sites on the net and look at what is written.

You may find it helpful to copy the text into notepad or an email and color and highlight the pronouns, temporal lacuna, contradictions, non sequential timelines of an event, the number of words before during and after the event, anything that catches your eye and makes you go hmmm.

You will miss some, even the obvious ones on occassion, we all do on first read, read it again and see if anything has changed in what you see, wait a while and do it again, te same with posts here read what others have noticed and see where you match up and where you differ, everyone will see it slightly differently, certain words will grab your attantion and other's won't , all due to you own life experiences, education, age and many other factors.

This is why i love when Peter sets us a challenge, between us we usually get most of what he has seen.

Hobnob said...

off topic

The Sunday Times has revealed that it is suing Lance Armstrong for the return of money paid for him to settle a libel claim, in a case that could cost the disgraced cyclist up to £1 million. In 2006, the newspaper paid Armstrong £300,000 in an out-of-court settlement relating to its publication in 2004 of allegations that he doped.

Now, in a letter sent to Armstrong's lawyers, The Sunday Times said: "It is clear that the proceedings were baseless and fraudulent. Your representations that you had never taken performance enhancing drugs were deliberately false."

The publication is suing for return of the £300,000 paid to Armstrong to settle that earlier action, brought in the High Court in London, plus interest and costs.

That case was concerned with the newspaper's publication of extracts from the book LA Confidentiel, which its chief sports writer David Walsh had co-written with Pierre Ballester.

The book itself has never been published in English, although earlier this month Walsh, recently named journalist of the year in the Press Gazette Awards, brought out a second book about Armstrong, called Seven Deadly Sins.

The Sunday Times has been considering its position regarding that libel settlement ever since Armstrong was banned from sport for life and stripped of results dating back to 1998, including those seven Tour de France titles he won between 1999 and 2005.

Armstrong, who regularly resorted to threats of legal action against those who pointed the finger at him, has never admitted taking performance enhancing drugs, although he chose not to contest the United States Anti-Doping Agency's charges against him

http://road.cc/content/news/72482-sunday-times-launches-%C2%A31-million-lawsuit-against-lance-armstrong

Anonymous said...

OT

http://permianbasin360.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=239912

Billie Dunn "I GUESS when you have a missing child every day is bad."

I guess Billie can only GUESS what it's like to have a missing child because her child isn't missing?

Merry Christmas Everybody! :-)

~ABC

Anonymous said...

Female, early 20s,never married, works freelance,high school education-IQ 105 (??) (perhaps mine is 105 as I really didn't understand the question)

Bobby doesn't play. How sad.

Hobnob said...

Hi Anon
the average iq of a person is generally taken as 100.
Over that the higher the figure the smarter you are.
The lower the figure the not so smart you are.

70 is generally taken as the standard below which you are too mentally handicapped to be executed even if found guilty of a capital crime.
The consensus being the person won't understand why they are being executed and so it is cruel and inhumane punishment.

Mine is 142.
There is a thin line between genius and insanity and i don't have a good sense of balance :)

Katie K said...

A. Female
B. Age is 19-26
C. Marital Status – engaged with man who lives with her
D. Work Status is low-level employee in an office (reports to a supervisor)
E. Average IQ
F. Education level seems like High-School graduate, but she is handling cases, so maybe a 2-year college degree



1. Not a reliable employee was late to work & woke up at 6-ISH.
2. Has a son who is sick. She went to pharmacy to get medicine for him or fiancé but didn’t get it because took too long.
3. In an abusive relationship with fiancé (Brushed teeth)
4. She was sexually abused as a child (turned off lights)
5. Seems her son is also being sexually abused & she is either responsible or knows (she washed him up) and she is a neglectful mother (clingy, and everyone loves him). Also her son let her hold him for a while without wanting to t down. Is he afraid of her?
6. Fiancé may be unemployed or is home because he’s sick, or both.
7. Did she kill her baby or he died from being sick, or she gave him too much medicine? (She held him a long time and put him down).
8. She left out information about ther events that day. She and fiancé may have had a fight(she couldn’t deal with it now).

Andrea Marie said...

Female
23
single
low level employment
average intelligence
some community college

The subject is immature. She blames other people, other things, for her mistakes.

The subject is possibly neglectful with Bobby. (He was very cuddly and clung to me for a long time) was this out of the norm? Was Bobby sick?

The subject felt obligated (had to go to the pharmacy) Again blaming someone (the sick person possibly Bobby)

The subject is impatient (had to wait a long time. Blaming again (the pharmacy was slow).

The subject is pushy. (told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby)

The subject inflates her job. (starting a new case... had to cover...)

The subject is neglectful of her fiance. (He told me that he wasn’t feeling well  I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now)

The subject possibly works in data entry. (read assignments, started typing)

The subject takes a lot of time off work or is often late ( Supervisor tee’d big time)

This subject is an immature, lazy, neglectful, bossy little bitch that does not take responsibility for her actions.








Anonymous said...

Katie K

I read again and from the story line, it seems like the baby Bobby was very ill & died. In the morning he probably threw up --had to wash him up. She didn't get his medicine because she was trying to get to work. Left him at daycare even though he was too sick to be there. Had to get him because he was throwing up. The fiance, who is probably not the father because she refers to Bobby as "the baby" when saying what fiance said. It seems the baby was deathly ill and slowly dying because of it and she neglected him and at the end he let her hold him so long because he was dying and when she put him down, he was either dead or about to die. The whole story is about how little Bobby died from being sick and neglected. Since she didn't get his prescription at pharmacy, maybe she gave him some adult medicine.

Lis said...

I'm going to come back to this and go over it carefully but my first impression just reading over it is, something is very wrong here, the statement gives me the creeps. It will be interesting now to look and see what the actual words were that set my alarms off.

Anonymous said...

Afterwards I was going to take him to daycare. Our baby is watched there really well; everyone loves him so much. I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off but had to wait there a long time. The pharmacy was slow. I left the pharmacy
and went to the daycare. day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to
I got back home and

Did she ever make it to daycare? I don't think so.

She uses the passive "is watched there" hmmm

"really well" they love him so much - why the need to justify the daycare quality?

"I left" - something happened then

Daycare "is" empty - she uses the present tense here.

Nic said...

Part I

I woke up late Friday morning 6ish because my alarm didn’t go off.

Not reporting, telling why. Alibi building.

I brushed my teeth
made our bed, got Bobby changed.


TMI, toiletry is something that happens that goes without saying. Reporting about it could mean that there is abuse.

"Our" bed as opposed to "the" bed... problem within the relationship.

He was very cuddly and clung to me
for a long time. I washed him up.


Washing - abuse. I am thinking that the baby was fussy and she might have been a bit rough with Bobby.

Afterwards I was going to take him to daycare. Our baby is watched there really well; everyone loves him so much.

"Our" baby. The baby's responsibility is shared. It's not a lifestyle, i.e., something that they do together. Extra wording about how well the baby is taken care of. Mother may feel that the baby is neglected in the daytime.

I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off but had to wait there a long time. The pharmacy was slow. I left the pharmacy
and went to the daycare.


The word left implies that she may have been frustrated when she left. There also appears to be a piece of time that is missing.

day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to

There appears to be some of the text missing. In any event, "so" implies that she is making excuses for why Bobby may not have much interaction throughout the day.

The verb tense is off, as well. She is not in the past, reporting what happened. She is speaking in the present tense.


I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend.

She is making excuses for not picking up Bobby (because). Bobby's dad doesn't appear to be much into parenting but she left it to him to pick up the slack.

He told me that he wasn’t feeling well I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now.

"Told" is repeated and sensitive. They argued over who would pick up Bobby. Bobby is referred to as "it". Change in reality.

Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone.

Absence of pronoun. She's reporting what would've/shoud've happen not necessarily what she did.

Nic said...

Part II

Daycare said he was throwing up. Supervisor tee’d big time.

I got home and Bobby was better.


Loss of time. No time reported between answering phone to getting Bobby to getting home with Bobby.

My fiancé was laying on the couch and said that maybe the baby caught it from him.

Not a good relationship. Does not use proper social introduction. i.e., Finance does not have a name. Just referred to as "fiance". Fiance doesn't appear concerned about Bobby's health. Seems to lie on the couch and do a lot of nothing.

Did typing from home. Sup called again.

Loss of time. What did the Sup want? What happened between phone call and making dinner?

Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down.

Not reporting what happened. Extra wording to describe a nice time she was spending with him (being "unbelievably" cute. Over reports time she spent with him. Half hour is 30 minutes. Three is liars number. What is reported in the negative is sensitive. Bobby was most likely fussy. She may have tried to comfort him but he didn't want to be.

I held him watching TV.
He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down.


"Put him down" as opposed to put him to sleep. Did the mother hurt Bobby? Did she suffocate him? (Held him/put him down.)


We went to bed finally

Turned out the lights and went to sleep.


Going to bed would imply that they went to sleep. But she reports two events; going to bed and then going to sleep. Turning out the lights could mean abuse. I will "assume" that there was fighting and abuse between going to bed and "finally" falling asleep.

________

I'm guessing this couple is in their early 20's and are poor middle-class. She may have a college diploma (business) he sounds like he might have high school. and works blue collar jobs (is unemployed a lot).

I'm guessing there is a lot of abuse between the couple and that the baby has been abused/neglected as well. I would go as far as to say that the mother may have/could lose it and gravely hurt her baby. She reports herself as being attentive and loving, but I would investigate further to see if the baby is getting the proper care.

jmo

Anonymous said...

Shaken baby shaken during the night... baby was vomiting before leaving home so she had to make bed and wash baby even though she was running late and fiance was home

Trigger said...

"Got Bobby changed"

then states that he clung to her for a long time and then she "washed him up"

What happened after changing and before clinging for a long time that caused her to wash him up?

shaking, hitting, or dropping Bobby?

reference to water is indication of sexual abuse.

Goes to the pharmacy before taking Bobby to daycare. Looking for a quick remedy to mask Bobby's condition? or hers? or is she seeking drugs or meds to cope with her life filled with angry people.

Does not introduce "fiance" by name indicates relationship problems.

turned off the lights is indicative of physical abuse/domestic violence.

Fiance is lazy, selfish, immature, and has no love for Bobby.

"Maybe he caught it from him?" That made my skin crawl because it's an admission that what ever ails Bobby has a source, the fiance.

"Unbelievably cute" is the same as being quiet and still for 30 minutes?

This woman knows what happened to Bobby and is protecting the boyfriend.









Trigger said...

female
late teens or early 20's
unmarried
works weekends in a clerical capacity
average intelligence
high school diploma
lives with a dangerous man

JerseyJane said...

I agree with Andrea Marie 100% on mark.

A Billie Dunn twin..

ivanna-anna said...

Female
Early 20s
Engaged
Works in an office, has some responsibilities but not much
Average intelligence
High school graduate

I woke up late Friday morning 6ish because my alarm didn’t go off.
What made her wake up? Bobby throwing up? Has a need to explain why she woke up late.

I brushed my teeth made our bed, got Bobby changed.

Mentioning cleaning/washing could come from the fact that she feels dirty when she thinks about this particular moment of the day.

She made our bed not my bed or the bed.
If a wife of 30 years has a need to point out that the bed is shared, there might be marital trouble. It might also be the case also here. However, the writer seems to be quite young and sharing the bed is most probably a new thing, or her relationship might be a new one, and this might be the reason she thinks about the bed's “ownership”.

Had Bobby been sick on the bed and that's why she remembers making the bed (or changing the linen)?

Why does she say she got Bobby changed rather than say that she changed him? Did she do it with too much force and doesn't want to think about it? Or did she get the fiance to do it and then left him out of the story for some reason? (He's there when she comes back from the daycare so he might have been there already now).

He was very cuddly and clung to me for a long time.
She is late, Bobby has a need for extended cuddles, Bobby clings to her; chances are she is quite annoyed.
If the fiance is there, is Bobby clinging to her because he is a threat?

I washed him up.
She already got him changed so something has happened here:
He might have vomited, which might explain why he was clingy. Or did something else happen that made him dirty
She has now mentioned cleaning/washing twice. This could indicate abuse.

Afterwards I was going to take him to daycare.
She skips time. What happened after she needed to change him? Is she hiding something?
I was going to doesn't mean it happened.

Our baby is watched there really well; everyone loves him so much.
He's no longer Bobby. He's not my baby but our baby.
There is something sensitive here, otherwise she would not mention this.
Obviously, she would not take Bobby there if he was not looked after well. And it should be obvious that every mother thinks everyone loves their baby. Does she have a problem watching him well herself, or with the fiance watching him? Or does she defend herself by saying yes, I take him to this place even though xxx but at least they watch him really well?

I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off but had to wait there a long time. The pharmacy was slow.
She is quite annoyed: she had to do something, twice.
The pharmacist wasn't slow, the (whole) pharmacy was.
Time is a sensitive issue to her.

I left the pharmacy and went to the daycare.
Did she leave the pharmacy before she got what she went there for?

ivanna-anna said...

(second part)

day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to
Is this why she was defending taking Bobby to daycare?
Is this how she feels? Bobby does not have friends to play with but at least they watch him well.

I got back home and told my finance [sic] that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend.
She doesn't introduce him by name but at least he's my fiance so not all bad. Where was he this morning? Was he there even though she didn't mention him?
She has a need to explain why she asked him to get Bobby from daycare. Is she defending herself? He wasn't happy about having to do it: she had to tell him rather than say it to him or to ask him. (If I wrote down that I did on a particular day, I would not even remember things like this.)

He told me that he wasn’t feeling well  I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now.
Is he feeling unwell because of drugs or drinking, or has he gone down with an infection?
They don't have the warmest of relationships. She seems to be bossy, he might be reluctant to take part in the household chores.

Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone.
Suddenly time flies.
She's not taking ownership of what happened here.
Until this point, the text is abundant with left-to-so-because-but, but now it stops.
Bobby is in daycare, but there is something extremely sensitive here.

Daycare said he was throwing up.
He should say Bobby rather than he.

Supervisor tee’d big time.
Her supervisor or the daycare supervisor?

I got home and Bobby was better.
Better than when?

My fiance was laying on the couch and said that maybe the baby caught it from him.
If Bobby is ill, and her fiance is ill, why does she need him to draw the conclusion that Bobby got it from the fiance? If the fiance is ill from substance abuse, then she would not want to admit that she made the connection herself. Did she make both of them ill? Or does she just not want to admit that she knew Bobby was ill in the morning?

Did typing from home. Sup called again.
If she worked from home, she would say it clearly.
The sup called again, which means that the sup called previously.
Was this the daycare supervisor who was so worried about Bobby that (s)he called again, or her supervisor from work?

I made dinner. Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down. I held him watching TV.
Was he so ill he didn't want to get down?
Why does she need to mention he was unbelievably cute?
Did she finally have positive feelings toward him?
Does he normally not want to be held? (he did want to be held in the morning)

He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down. We went to bed finally
Turned out the lights and went to sleep.

We turn out lights when we go to sleep but those with abuse in their past have a higher tendency to mention it.

Anonymous said...

A. Male or female?
B. Approximate age
C. Marital status
D. Work status
E. Approximate intellect
F. Intelligence or educational level
a. female
b. about 25
c. single
d. i think she's a law clerk or paralegal,
e. maybe 105-110
f. trade school or 2 year degree
-Christy

sidewalk super said...

Poor "Bobby", never had a chance with this unqualified, too young, not that bright mother. Why, why, do these single mothers bring physical "males" into their "homes" to be cared for? Doomed, all of them.

She uses terms not familiar to me:
"washed him up"(laundry)
"put him down" (euthanasia)
daycare being "empty" not the same as "so not that many kids there"

where does Bobby usually sleep? her bed? "fiancee's" couch?

Is she bringing the pharmacy product back to the "fiancee"?

Tee'd supervisor would be at daycare?

What is purpose/function/reality of this "fiancee" in her life?

Why is daycare the place where poor Bobby is watched well and loved? (not at home?)

I have no idea what kind of work involves new cases and typing from home for part time shift on the weekend.

sidewalk super said...



or "washed him up" (turnips)

ivanna-anna said...


She tends to wake up early. She does not get enough sleep.
She has not had this sleeping pattern for long enough for her body to get used to it.
She does not wake up at the same time as her fiance (it's her alarm).

She was late and could have left the bed undone but didn't; she is quite tidy.
She lives in a temperate to cool climate (in hot climates, beds need to be aired before they are made up).

She feels guilty about taking Bobby to daycare and justifies it.
She cares about Bobby more than work, but she needs to work.
She knows that she should not have taken Bobby to daycare, but did. At least she tried get something for him from the pharmacy even though she was already running late.

She is in a relationship.She uses the word 'fiance' instead of 'boyfriend'. She is quite possibly from an area where this has some significance. She might say this to point out that even though she has a child (out of wedlock?) she is not promiscuous. (I'm from one of the Scandinavian countries; about 50% of our babies are born to couples who live together but are not married). The engagement could also be recent.

There is a lack of natural sharing in the relationship. She has a need to order him about, and he has a need to refuse.
She needs to justify why he should do something that he obviously should do. He has a tendency to say no, and he has a tendency not to do his share.

She is not on top of things at the moment.

She is not very close to her fiance. He seems to be quite ill but either she doesn't notice it (he needs to tell her), or she notices but doesn't care.

At work, she is given assignments = she works for someone, she is not the supervisor. A secretary might say she answers the phone but a manager would say something about the relevance of the call ('I had a teleconference' etc).

Someone was quite angry with her; she mentions it. She is dominant at home but not at work.

Her fiance doesn't do much in the evening. She takes care of Bobby and prepares dinner.

She needs more sleep.

Seekker said...

young female
in a bad relationship, but 'engaged'?
has a small child [pre-school age]
employed; not necessarily a '9-5' job, as she needs to cover part shift on the weekend
average intellect
little or no college

Anonymous said...

I woke up late Friday morning 6ish because my alarm didn’t go off.

--This is someone that is chronically late. She is blaming the reason for waking up late is because her alarm didn’t go off, not because she over-slept. With this first sentence I already know that not only did she wake up late, the household environment was probably riddled with arguments and fights and she was also late for work. This is the only sentence that she assigns a time to, which in all probability means that there was an argument at that time.

I brushed my teeth

-- This woman is in an abusive relationship.


made our bed, got Bobby changed.

She made “our” bed. She is in a relationship. She introduced her son as “Bobby”, but without a proper introduction such as “my son, Bobby”. She either has a poor relationship with this baby, or Bobby may be a step-son.

He was very cuddly and clung to me
for a long time.

--Apparently Bobby isn’t usually cuddly and clings to her – for a long time. He clings, but not for long. I think she is trying to convince the reader that she has a good relationship with this baby.


I washed him up.
When water enters a statement it is an indicator of sexual abuse or activity.

Afterwards I was going to take him to daycare. Our baby is watched there really well; everyone loves him so much.

--She was going to take him to daycare. She doesn’t say she did, but that was going to take him to daycare. Something happened that prevented her from doing it, or prevented her from doing it at the time she was going to take him. She doesn’t assign ownership to her son, she now addresses him as “our baby”. There is a change in language reflects a change in reality, and there is no reason for this change. Other than when the baby is not with her or her fiancé, he then becomes “our baby”.

I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off but had to wait there a long time.
She said she had to go to the pharmacy before dropping him off, but – this refutes what she said earlier. She is not stating she actually went to the pharmacy. She is not telling us the reason for going to the pharmacy either. She is trying to jockey for why she was late for work. Apparently she was exceptionally late and throughout the entire paragraph she is blending her story in.

The pharmacy was slow. I left the pharmacy
and went to the daycare.


--Many false statements start with “left”. Usually the use of This is a point of sensitivity, 70% likely due to rushing, time, traffic, but 30% likely related to missing serious information. I am curious if she went somewhere else between the pharmacy and the day care.


day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to

--This is an incomplete sentence. She self sensorced what she was going to say. This is a strange sentence. She is saying that the daycare is empty and the reason why Bobby doesn’t have many kids there – but she can’t bring herself to say “play with”. I think Bobby does play with kids there, only not many kids to play with.


I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend.

--She had an argument with her “finance”. Told is stronger than said. She also explained why she “told” her “finance” he had to pick up Bobby. Because she was starting a new case and had to cover part time shirt on the weekend.


He told me that he wasn’t feeling well I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now.

C5H11ONO said...


--There was an argument, since she “told” him he had to pick up Bobby, and he “told” her that he wasn’t feeling well. He didn’t tell her he couldn’t, but that he wasn’t feeling well. I get the impression they know that there is something seriously wrong with Bobby and are arguing as to who will go get him.


Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone.
She didn’t insert the pronoun “I” to any of this statement so we can’t assume she did any of these things. She says she started typing, but didn’t finish typing. She answered phone. This means that only one phone call came in.

Daycare said he was throwing up.
--She got the one call she was expecting.

Supervisor tee’d big time.
--She didn’t say she had to explain to her supervisor that the baby was sick, but what she found important to say was that the supervisor was tee’d big time.

I got home and Bobby was better.
--She still has not said Bobby is her son.

My fiancé was laying on the couch and said that maybe the baby caught it from him.

--She is inserting body posture. The fact that she mentions body posture means that it was important enough for her to mention it. There was tension..


Did typing from home.
--She didn’t say she typed from hom. If she didn’t say I did typing from home, we can’t assume she did. She left out the pronoun “I”

Sup called again.
--This means her supervisor called several times since she left work. The reason she said “again” sounds like it was bothering her.

I made dinner.
--Truthful statement.

Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down.

--Bobby again, but never addressed him as her son. She is trying to convince the reader that this was “fun” time. She held him for “almost” a half hour, not that she held him for a half hour. She could have held him for 5 minutes.


I held him watching TV.

--She was likely holding him as whatever happened to him finally took its course.

He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down.
We went to bed finally
--This shows unity and cooperation. Whatever happened to Bobby she was a part of it.

Turned out the lights and went to sleep.

--Those who mention turning off lights often have indicated sexual problems in their past. Also she didn’t say she fell asleep, only that she went to sleep. This is another indicator of sexual abuse or activity.

--In this short statement the writer had two indicators of sexual abuse.

--I pray that Bobby is alive.
--This is a woman, aged between 22-32, single, employed part time, very uneducated, below average intelligence/education.

Wallruss said...

Bobby was unbelievably cute and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down. I held him watching TV. He fell asleep on my shoulder and I put him down. We went to bed finally.

There's something badly wrong. I guess you could argue that she's talking about a specific event, so the past tense is stictly correct, but "Bobby was unbelievably cute" doesn't sound right when talking about your kids. "Bobby was being unbelieveably cute" or even the statement "Bobby is unbelievably cute". "Bobby was unbelievably cute" sounds like Bobby was no longer alive or was dying.

Anonymous said...

Ivanna-anna

Here, the subject chose a work day.

Did the subject really choose to write about this day? Was she not asked to write about this particular day?

Lisa MTarot said...

"didn't wake up till 6 b/c of alarm" means she heard the abuse but says in her 1st sentence she didn't see or hear anything.
"made our bed" - man was already out of bed - doing the abuse.
"told" man he was going to watch her son - the man made the problem, he has to help fix it now.
The 1st sentence is disturbing, and it is just the start. Oi

Justme said...

She refers to the other "kids", not babies. I don't think Bobby was a baby. I think he was adopted or a foster child who they drugged and had to be "washed up" after the sexual abuse that made her late for work. I think they had to keep Bobby drugged to keep him from telling anyone at the daycare about the abuse and is the reason she had to stop at the pharmacy. I also think that is why she mentions the daycare being empty. I think they hoped that there would be enough kids that no one would pay much attention if Bobby slept all day which is also why she mentions that he is "watched really well" and that worried her. She may have even hoped that he would die there and not on her watch. But he "got better". She made dinner and possibly put something in his food to make him sick again. I think he died on her shoulder. Then they could "finally go to bed".
She may even be a social worker herself. Her job includes cases, assignments, phone work, typing.

Mouse74 said...

Female
18-24
Single, living w/ fiance
Average IQ
Community College

The first sentence is telling. This is what she wants us to believe as why she is late, due to the clock not going off, not her fault for not setting it. Things that go wrong in her life are often not her fault, according to her.

She mentions brushing her teeth, which is unexpected as it's normal routine for getting ready. Why the need to mention it?

She then changes Bobby (I assume changes diaper, could this also mean changes clothes? I would have to ask more questions), and states that he was very cuddly and clung to her FOR A LONG TIME. I think it is during this time that the mother lost her temper due to being rushed from being late and also from the lack support from the fiancé, and abused her baby (via shaken baby syndrome). She wants to portray this time as cuddly and loving, and note how long it lasted. Why else mention it? There is no need, as its normal for toddlers to act in this way to their mother several times daily.
Next, she washes him up. Not sure about this hunch as I'm not a parent, but seems to me the logical time to wash up a baby would be before or as you are putting on the new diaper/new clothes?? I could be stretching here. It just seems out of place. If mom did lose her temper, it could create a reason for baby to be washed up, post trauma.
She then mentions she WAS going to take Bobby to daycare afterwards (the cleaning). I would ask what she ended up doing right after washing the baby, then, since she used the word WAS. Information is missing here.
She seems to catch herself here after saying WAS going to, and stopped herself from explaining what happened instead. She goes back to daycare, stating that she approves of their ‘watching’ of her son. She goes on some more about how much daycare loves her son so much. Odd things to bring up, when just asked to describe actions performed during the day. Seems like filler to the story by throwing in an opinion. Possibly she didn’t want the daycare workers to come under suspicion, knowing she did the harm? Again, stretching a bit here.

Mouse74 said...

Part II

She HAD to go to the Pharmacy (but does not specify for what/whom). This took a lot of time too, and again, not her fault, it was the Pharmacy’s fault for being SLOW, not busy, but SLOW. She is finger pointing the delay in time. She is trying to account for time, but leaving out a lot of details.
She gets to daycare, mentions it is ‘empty’. Unfinished sentence of “not many kids there for Bobby to”, it’s possible she stopped herself from writing “get sick”. I think she was trying to add to a lie that the baby must have died from being sick. BUT, for the lie to work, she has to say that she didn’t notice the baby was sick until later, until daycare called. She would want to hide the slip in words, as you are not supposed to bring a sick baby to daycare and stay home instead. If the baby was sick and she knew it, dropped Bobby off at daycare anyway, she is neglectful not only to her own son, but to the other children there.
She wanted the fiancé to pick up the son, and states that it is b/c of work. I’m thinking she was scared to be the parent to pick up a sick child. She was avoiding angry daycare workers, because she knew very well what condition Bobby was in when she dropped him off. The fiancé was just being lazy in saying no to the request, IMO. Her stating that the fiancé was sick and maybe he gave the sickness to the baby….part of the lie to cover up abuse.
She couldn’t deal with it, because she was in denial mode.
When she gets to work, then the details finally emerge, only to be interrupted by daycare calling. I’m going to bet the tee’d supervisor was from the daycare. Mad because she dropped off a very sick baby.
Bobby was better = Bobby was dying, becoming lethargic.
Sup called again, but she does not mention why. I’m guessing the call was to check up on the baby.
Bobby WAS unbelievably cute. Past tense. She held him for some time after he passed. She was reflecting back, thinking how nice it was that she was just able to hold him and he lay still for her to look at. She was overwhelmed by normal toddler behavior and wasn’t up for the task of motherhood. She continued to hold him while watching TV. She was holding him one last time, before “putting him down”, as opposed to laying him down, or putting to bed.
“We went to bed finally”. Must have been a long day for her.
“Turned out the lights”. Huh, maybe there was sexual abuse involved, and not shaken baby syndrome as I previously thought?

Justmyfeebleattempt said...

My first post was just impression. Now working through it I disagree with myself.

I woke up late Friday morning 6ish because (highest sensitivity, need to explain being late to work )my alarm didn’t go off. I brushed my teeth (can indicate abuse)made our bed (our bed- bad relationship with fiance) , got Bobby changed. (Changed into what?) (The child is Bobby during the "cuddling" ) He was very cuddly and clung to me (clung sounds like fear or desperation)for a long time. (If author was late for work already how could they let Bobby cling to them for a long time?) I washed him up. (He's already been changed. Why the need to wash him up after a long time of cuddling and clinging?) Afterwards (after what?) I was going to take him to daycare. ( Was going to but they don't say they did take him to daycare ) Our baby ("our" baby is sharing guilt. Now the child is a baby not Bobby) is watched there really well; everyone loves him so much. I had to go to the pharmacy before I dropped him off (why the need to go to the pharmacy? There has been no mention of anyone being sick yet) but had to wait there a long time. The pharmacy was slow. (alibi building? pointing out that it took a long time. If it took a long time it was obviously slow. Why repeat it?) I left the pharmacy (why mention leaving the pharmacy? It goes without saying that you had to leave the pharmacy to go to the daycare)and went to the daycare. (THE daycare, not our or Bobby's daycare) day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to (incomplete sentence. It's not the, our or Bobby's daycare. Again no ownership of the daycare. They also can't bring themselves to finish the sentence about the "empty" daycare and what happens there with the other kids. Nonexistant daycare?) I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because (because- highly sensitive ) I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend. He told me that he wasn’t feeling well. (Guilt?) I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now. ( Is Bobby dead and neither can bring themselves to deal with his body? Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone. (Incomplete sentence. Author never went to work?)
Daycare said he was throwing up. (Not owning the daycare) Supervisor tee’d big time. (Not owning the supervisor) I got home and Bobby was better. (Bobby was better? Was his body less rigid and easier to "deal" with? more cuddly? My fiancé was laying on the couch ( body position indicates tension) and said that maybe the baby caught it from him. Did typing from home. Sup called again. (not owning these statements)
I made dinner. Bobby was unbelievably cute (he wasn't usually cute?) and I held him for almost a half hour without him trying to get down. (drugged or dead?) I held him watching TV. (cuddling a dead child?)
He fell asleep (or died) on my shoulder and I put him down. (put him down, not put him to bed)
We went to bed finally (they had time to watch tv but the day was so long that they "finally" went to bed? What was final?)
Turned out the lights and went to sleep. (not owning this statement)
The author has the usual female responsibilities but could be either female or gay male. Not a clue how old. They can't be too bright if they didn't think far enough in advance to think that the alibi would be checked out, pharmacy, daycare, work.
But I'm probably being too suspicious and wrong about most of it and Bobby recovered from a stomach flu and is fine. I would hope that is the case. What an ameteur I am at this. :)

Anonymous said...

female
20s
avg intellect
may work for a govt. agency or private enterprise that assigns cases to individuals
never married (Bobby has nor will never know his father)

Timing is off in many instances like going to the pharmacy before declaring the flu in the household. Going back home to tell the boy-toy he needed to go pick-up Bobby prior to ever arriving at "work." Making the bed at 6ish when boy-toy is incapacitated with the "flu."

Perhaps Bobby is now with other children, or so she thinks.

Justme said...

Maybe it is just an immature teen who leaves her child home with her fiance instead of at daycare. Someone who would rather stay up late watching tv and cuddling her baby and uses her baby as an excuse for being late to work.Bobby is alive and will have another imagined illness to explain why she is habitually late. ('The Sup was tee'd big time" sound like words a teen would use. An apostrophe 'd. Education level in question. Big time would indicate the supervisor was tired of her being late or not showing up and with all the excuses.
She was probably abused as a child herself.
Everyone loves our baby sounds self-centered and immature. As if her baby or child is more special than all the other kids.

I can't agree with myself on anything. What a great exercise. I am anxious for Peter's analysis.

Justme said...

Maybe it is just an immature teen who leaves her child home with her fiance instead of at daycare. Someone who would rather stay up late watching tv and cuddling her baby and uses her baby as an excuse for being late to work.Bobby is alive and will have another imagined illness to explain why she is habitually late. ('The Sup was tee'd big time" sound like words a teen would use. An apostrophe 'd. Education level in question. Big time would indicate the supervisor was tired of her being late or not showing up and with all the excuses.
She was probably abused as a child herself.
Everyone loves our baby sounds self-centered and immature. As if her baby or child is more special than all the other kids.

I can't agree with myself on anything. What a great exercise. I am anxious for Peter's analysis.

Justme said...

I left out that she stays up late fighting with her "fiance". They have an abusive, immature relationship. They fight and he sleeps on the couch.

The more I think about it the more I wonder if this is even about Bobby. Maybe I just jumped to that conclusion because we look at so many abused child cases.

Did she get fired and an investigator at the unemployment office asked her to tell what happened that day? I've never drawn unemployment and don't know the process.

Anonymous said...

Very impressive observations everyone! Thank you for posting. I wish I could google the results to know...

Justme said...

I try to analyze then go back and look at what Peter asked again. Each time I do I start think to rethink everything. It's still a mystery to me.

Peter asked, "Can you find who this person is?".

The person never refers to him as "my child" so the author is probably the resentful, live-in girlfriend of the child's father. "Our baby".

Peter said, "Here, the subject gives us a great deal of highly personal information that may shock some." We've talked about all kinds of abuse so why the warning that this "highly personal information" might shock some? Most of the cases on here shock us. I don't know what he is referring to. Any thoughts?

Peter said, "Here, the subject chose a work day". So this isn't about any particular day or event?

Anonymous said...

a. female
b. 17-22 age range
c. engaged
d. employed, little responsibility though, as she makes a big deal about being given the "responsibility" of the new case
e. Normal to low
f. high school diploma or GED

A couple things that struck me as highly odd is that she talks about having awoken late that morning, yet cuddles for "a long time" ... I'm a parent and I always worked when my kiddos were young, awakening late can cause stress, then long cuddles when in a hurry do not work well. But why was she in a hurry? Why is 6'ish AM waking up late if ...

"I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend."

Wait ... she got up late 6 AM, seemed to have to rush to get to somewhere on time (job??), but stops at the pharmacy that irritates her with daring to be slow that morning, drops Bobby off at daycare and THEN returns home?? Why? If she woke up late, was irritated at the pharmacy for being "slow" (not busy) ... wouldn't she still be rushed to get to work from dropping him at daycare? Why then did she go back home? And why did she even drop Bobby off at daycare if once she got home she was already telling her fiance he needed to go pick him up?

~Faith

drdebo said...

Well thanks Hobnob- I thought I was being bucket-headed! Nice to know ppl are in the christmas spirit. I AM tryng but I am a slow learner (terrible dyslexia)and preoccupied with dissertation and asperger boys. But, I will keep trying as I LOVE this site and the science of SA.
Merry Xmas all.

drdebo said...

Peter= when do we get correct answer- or did I miss it?

Eve said...

The author of this statement is female, early twenties, average intelligence with HS diploma and possibly some trade or business school courses. The fiance is a slug, controlling, passive aggressive, possibly abusive and unlikely to be the father of the baby. The baby is ill due to being medicated, neglected or abused (shaken). The mother is hiding information with a combination of extraneous details and missing time, possibly covering for the fiance.

Anonymous said...

I've read this three or four times. This sounds like a young mother under tremendous stress. Someone who may have been abused herself and is struggling to make a life different from the one she knew. It's flu season because there aren't many children at the daycare and fiancee is sick too. She never mentions feeling ill herself, but there are indicators that the stress level is high and she is doing all she can and no one else is helping.

She makes the bed, washes the baby, does errands-pharmacy run, daycare drop-off-gets to the other work and has to leave. Supervisor is Tee'd perhaps because the flu has left them short-handed.

She cooks dinner at the end of the day and demonstrates how stressed she is when she declares '...went to bed FINALLY...'

It is easy to accuse and point the finger. Not so easy to see where the person is coming from.

To answer the question CAN YOU FIND WHO THIS PERSON IS?

NO!

People under stress, young and inexperienced, and juggling all they can cannot be condemmed for all eternity on a few statements.

Literally find this person?
Sure. Go through all the pharmacy records and find someone buying flu medicine. Narrow it down to a young woman with a baby or toddler. Add in occupation-typist, phone receptionist,etc., plug this in to a computer program that charts statistics and gives the probability of who this person is and............zilch!

No. I cannot find this person.

Anonymous said...

Can't you just find who she is by looking at her name on the questionaire?

Justme said...

Anon @6:56 I agree with you. Because of all the abuse cases we've discussed I jumped to the conclusion immediately that some particular event happened and that was what I looked for. In SA we aren't supposed to assume anything. I'm sure glad no one has to worry about me analyzing them! But I'm determined to get better at this. :)

Justme said...

I'm so unsure of my application of SA that I'm going to have to go back and reread to see if Peter is playing a dirty joke on us and this was written by Heather. How red-faced would I be then? lol

john said...

If i wasnt aware of SA i would think that this could be any "normal" day in the life of a single parent.

Given that the statement is littered with SA red flags and going by what ive learned this is not any "normal Day.

If it is, then it shouts in the face of SA and all it stands for.Myself personally trust SA and beleive this is not a "normal"day..

Sus said...

I'm getting a little different reading than others. The writer is most likely female, but could be a gay male. The "6ish" makes me think this couple is of a higher socioeconomic status. "Shift" "caseload" and sleeping on the couch means these could be med students. I was trying to figure out why the writer "had to" go to the pharmacy and could get a prescription so quickly...med students.

Telling abt brushing teeth indicates abuse in the home. The writer also tells the morning out of order and switches Bobby's name. She/he changes him, cuddles with him (tho she is late), and then washes him up. ( a sign of sexual abuse.) He is Bobby when she is changing him, he/him when she is cuddling him and our baby when he is at daycare and she feels he is safe. From what?

The writer plans to take Bobby to daycare "afterward" AFTER WHAT?

She "had to" go to the pharmacy BEFORE Bobby could go to daycare. She awoke late, she took time to "cuddle" with Bobby, and she is irritated with the pharmacy for being slow. She uses the word "left" Something abt the pharmacy is sensitive.

The writer switches to present tense to say the daycare is empty..what a funny way to say it. The sentence is cut off. She needs to be asked to finish it.

She then goes home again to TELL her fiance twice to pick up Bobby...that she can't deal with it. This shows sensitivity in Bobby and daycare. She wants the fiance there, not her.

From there on there is a lot of mixed up time and missing time. She seems to have gotten the calls from daycare and gone home, but possiby the fiance did pick Bobby up. Bobby was better.

Writer cooked supper...no mention of eating it, more work on her cases. She simply held Bobby and he didn't try to move. Then they turned the lights out (another indication of sexual abuse) and went to bed)

My thoughts are that the writer sexually abused Bobby in the morning. She/He poisoned him before he went to daycare, but Bobby vomited that up. She poisoned him again at dinner.

Mouse74 said...

Anon @ 6:56. These aren't just a few statements. These a few statements with sensitivity indicators.

You must be putting yourself in the stress shoes, and thinking you would say the same things under the same stress.

You can't put YOURSELF in the shoes. You have to look at the words only. You can't go by innocent first, to be proven guilty with SA. First you look at the words, then determine.

First read isn't always the final read. Keep trying!! You'll get it!!

When you first start, it doesn't seem logical, but keep practicing and you will see patterns emerge. The patterns must be seen and experienced by you, otherwise you won't believe fully in SA. As with anything in life, practice makes perfect!!

Anonymous said...

ivanna-anna

Mouse74, what you said about the unfinished sentence makes sense. Empty isn't such an odd word to use if she meant day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to infect

Anonymous said...

Quote from above:
Mine is 142.
There is a thin line between genius and insanity and i don't have a good sense of balance :)

Hmmmmmm. Order is important. I see a narcisist.

Anonymous said...

@anon3:38

I read somewhere that a person can boost theirs by 30 points easily enough by some exercise. Don't know if that's true or not as I assumed it was inherent.

Maybe this person is really just a 112,huh?

Anonymous said...

Peter,

Are you ever going to tell us? It's been 3 days (no, really)!

Please tell us.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I must have checked back here on the hour the past 3 days!

And every time I see something additionally, but the two constant items that do not sit right with me are "Bobby was unbelievably cute" and I "held him for a long time". These are separately 2 creepy-assed things to say about your baby/toddler/child.

Anonymous said...

Haha, I keep checking too. I can't wait to find out. Like someone else said what if nothing terrible happened and we are just so used to looking at such things? But I also notice new things. She doesn't use pronouns with her work chores, but seems to almost everywhere else. I wonder if she doesn't like her job?

Skeptical said...

I think this is a young single parent with a dilemma. She is in a relationship with a less than stellar, possibly abusive boyfriend and her baby is sick with fever, throwing up, and diarrhea. She has to go to work and can't stay home to take care of him. She stops by the pharmacy and gets some medicine to take down his fever so she can leave him at the daycare. Most daycares won't accept children who are running fever. She goes on to work and daycare calls to come pick up the baby when he gets sick and this upsets her supervisor. I think the unfinished sentence was a sign she felt guilty over leaving a sick child at daycare who could infect the other children, thus the remark about the daycare being empty.

Worker Bee said...

She chose to write about a work day. She talks about cases. Did her boss give this assignment, to write about herself? And she chose to write about the day that her boss was tee'd at her? To let her boss know what a hell of a day it had been for her? To show them she had been through hell and still made it to work? And how tired she was, how sick her baby was and she had no help from her sick fiance? In so doing, she also revealed all this other personal information about herself?

-Female
-28
-Engaged
-College graduate
-Intelligent

Hobnob said...

Anonymous said...
Quote from above:
Mine is 142.
There is a thin line between genius and insanity and i don't have a good sense of balance :)

Hmmmmmm. Order is important. I see a narcisist


Darn it you guessed.

I know i am amazing, i am smart, i am a big kid and have no qualms about letting her out to play, i am short and round, i am raspberry rippled, i have a warped sense of humor, i love to compliment strangers and hug them, i talk to store workers, taxi drivers and bus drivers and say thank you, i open doors or hold them open and offer older people or those who are raspberry rippled my seat on the bus if it is full, I let people go in front of me in a queue if they have only a couple of items or a screaming child.

I like me.

I like me which encourages me to like everyone.

I like you :)

ivanna-anna said...

Daycare said he was throwing up.

Previously, the writer said that the pharmacy was slow. Likewise, daycare could refer to the ones working at the daycare.

I assumed that she meant that Bobby was throwing up, but she didn't say it was Bobby. Grammatically speaking, in this sentence: “Daycare said was throwing up,” the word he refers to Daycare, not to Bobby. (Or it refers to the fiance as his name was mentioned last).

Could the title/purpose of this statement be The day I took Bobby to daycare and made Daycare throw up?

Anonymous said...

day care is empty so there are not many kids there for Bobby to
I got back home and told my finance that he needed to pick up Bobby because I was starting a new case and had to cover part time shift on weekend. He told me that he wasn’t feeling well I told him him he had to and I couldn’t deal with it now.
Got to work, read assignments, started typing, answered phone.

Why would someone who is already running late go back home after dropping off their baby at the daycare, just to tell her fiance he needs to go pick him up? I know she didn't tell us she dropped the baby off because she left out all the pronouns. She also left out the pronouns to getting to work, typing, etc. I think she went back home to have a full out fight with her man. She probably got back to work, but must have been so frazzled or perhaps so beat up that she wasn't "mentally" there. Also, the temporal lacunae from getting back home to got to work. She left out information, which I believe is the big fight. She must have known what happened to Bobby. But throughout all this she remains close to her fiance. I believe she is an administrative assistant for a busy law firm. She could also be one of Nancy Grace's producers! Searching for that next bombshell. Can you picture Nancy getting testy with her? LOL!

Jen said...

I've been reading & re-reading this for days now and it's a very strange and hard to follow statement. I think it's possible that this younger female works from home, maybe doing medical billing or insurance claims. That could account for the fact that she goes back home after dropping baby at daycare and that she doesn't detail driving to or arriving at work.

Also she shows sensitivity regarding taking the baby to daycare explaining that he's watched really well there and loved so much, it may be she's justifying bring him while sick or maybe she trying to justify bringing him at all since she & fiancé were both home or even including daycare in order to explain that if something did happen that it could have happened at daycare.

A lot of the statement seemed to be focused on explaining lateness or wasted time...the alarm went off late, the pharmacy was slow & took forever, told fiancé to p/u because she was starting new case & couldn't deal with 'it' right now (what is 'it', picking up baby, fiancé being sick, the work load?

A lot of the statement is focused on the baby's behavior, illness and explaining that he was cuddly, clingy, remained still (lethargic) fornan extended period of rime and fell asleep on shoulder, also specifically states that the fiancé said the baby possibly 'caught it from him'.

Overall tone of the letter seems to be an attempt to explain the actions of the writer during a day when Bobby was noticeable sick (enough to be sent home from daycare) and also why the writer broke from their 'normal' schedule and expected activity, arriving late to daycare, late for 'work' (or behind in their responsibilities resulting in upset supervisor).

With that in mind I speculate that the baby was shaken or otherwise injured around 6ish, resulting in the writer having to 'wash him up' and get him changed, then dropped the baby off at daycare late which they know will be discovered so the writer has already woven into their story excuses for their lateness or broken schedule. Also including the daycare provides an alternate suspect for any injuries (may explain broken sentence regarding no kids at daycare...they didn't want to remove the possibility that he was injured by other
kids).

The writer does not say that the daycare called to report the baby 'throwing up' on the day in question, or that the daycare 'called' at all, however then writer implys that their
supervisor was upset due to this info? Then time is skipped, no mention of who actually picked baby up or if writer actually left 'work' early. Then the writer claims the fiancé said the baby may have caught his sickness from him, (making an excuse for why they didn't seek help for baby)

There's too many red flags to even list...can we have the answer PLEASE! Inquiring minds want to know, lol




Anonymous said...

I posted a few days ago under "anonymous" but my post is not on here. It's too long to post again, but I'm curious to know how close I came. When the answer will be posted.

Anonymous said...

Unsure of gender of writer atm leaning toward male
Possibly late 30's
Engaged
Employed possibly freelance journalist able to work from home cutting it very fine to a deadline
Average intelligence, possibly a victem of sexual abuse or the perpetrator, could be peodaphiles.
Waiting at pharmcy could be for an administered drug for addiction
Daycare is empty cause its closed. The writer suffers adhd & bipolar or disassociative disorder.
Bobby is an adopted child solely for abuse they can get away with, he is too young to converse in an understood manner
Bobby does die
This is a police statement after being arrested.